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whiteshadow
06-04-2009, 12:22 PM
If this is genuine then.........shiiit!
It's the look in its eyes that freaks me out

http://ghoststudy.com/galleria/mar09/ghost_tiss10011.htm

size_of_light
06-04-2009, 12:51 PM
Awesome.

- If it's not faked or staged, that is.

The placement of it is pretty bizarre.

blondina1
06-04-2009, 12:58 PM
Awesome.

- If it's not faked or staged, that is.

The placement of it is pretty bizarre.

Agree!

chattanova
06-04-2009, 01:10 PM
I remember this, creepy stuff :eek:

old thread http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13659&highlight=demon+dog

size_of_light
06-04-2009, 01:30 PM
I embossed the image in Photoshop and then bumped up the contrast:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=318&pictureid=3056

Take a good look at where dog's right lower jaw and pink tongue-tip finish:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=318&pictureid=3069

Since that's physically impossible, it means that the photo is either a double-exposure (which the expert discounted), or we're looking at a genuine 'phantom dog'. :eek:

Sleep tight. ;)

beldazar
06-04-2009, 03:11 PM
That was a beautiful story no matter whether it was a demon or not. They obvoiusly think its real and its lovely that he has sorted himself out.

I do think that its possible to have some kind of demonic attachment. So does the writer of Dr Who where Donna has some horrid insect on her back, lol :D

size_of_light
06-04-2009, 03:59 PM
That was a beautiful story no matter whether it was a demon or not. They obvoiusly think its real and its lovely that he has sorted himself out.

I do think that its possible to have some kind of demonic attachment. So does the writer of Dr Who where Donna has some horrid insect on her back, lol :D

I liked the youtube clip too. I found it inspiring that instead of being freaked out by the photo or thinking he was possessed, this guy took it as a positive sign and turned his life around, when many people would have gone in the opposite direction.

whiteshadow
06-04-2009, 05:15 PM
Thanks SOL for doing your enlargement work.
Could the dogs tongue actually be draped on the guys shoulder and hanging over it a bit?

metacomet
06-04-2009, 05:33 PM
Feels too much like a tabloid story.

If a person had a photo of a demon behind them they would not carry it around with them everywhere.

I think stories like this (appealing to fascination of demons) are only implanting demonic archetypes in us... which is not cool. Kind of like the 9/11 faces in the smoke... even if it's the real deal, simply looking at such images is kind of a downer.

size_of_light
06-04-2009, 05:34 PM
Thanks SOL for doing your enlargement work.
Could the dogs tongue actually be draped on the guys shoulder and hanging over it a bit?

I referred to the pink tongue because it stood out so well, but look at the dog's right lower jaw (left side to us) - it too overlaps in an impossible way because it doesn't just 'drape over' and finish, it overlaps and then simply disappears!

(EDIT: I've amended the image I posted above to include reference to the jaw and to also correct the true position of the shoulder-line. The overlap-effect still occurs, though not as pronounced as when I interpreted the white line to be the true shoulder. Also note the general area of colour-pixellation/distortion in this area beneath the shoulder)

The more I look at this, the more I consider it one of the best examples of unexplainable phenomena I've seen.

size_of_light
06-04-2009, 05:48 PM
Feels too much like a tabloid story.

If a person had a photo of a demon behind them they would not carry it around with them everywhere.

I think stories like this (appealing to fascination of demons) are only implanting demonic archetypes in us... which is not cool. Kind of like the 9/11 faces in the smoke... even if it's the real deal, simply looking at such images is kind of a downer.

You could look at it positively by seeing that the guy in the photo was so shocked by it that it completely changed his life for the better and spurred him on to kick his drug addiction and deepen his spiritual faith.

In Tibetan Buddhism you can see thangkas of 'wrathful deities' who take on terrifying or menacing appearances when in essence they're still completely pure manifestations of positive enlightened energy.

They take on frightening forms at stages when it's necessary to wake people up when everything else has failed, a bit like if someone was sleepwalking towards a cliff and about to die and repeated attempts to whisper in their ear and wake them up hasn't worked.

Then a big hard slap in the face to wake that person up is the compassionate thing to do.

I like this dog. I'm looking on him as a good guy. :D

whiteshadow
06-04-2009, 06:39 PM
I think stories like this (appealing to fascination of demons) are only implanting demonic archetypes in us... which is not cool. Kind of like the 9/11 faces in the smoke... even if it's the real deal, simply looking at such images is kind of a downer.

Ok, let's strip away the 'demonic' label and any other labels, and just look at the picture. It demands an explanation. How did a doglike image appear there, looking over the guy's shoulder with eyes like that and tongue hanging out?
Freaky.

enga
06-04-2009, 07:10 PM
I don't think it overlaps at all, not imo. It looks like a stuffed dog or stuffed toy in the background to me.

whiteshadow
06-04-2009, 10:58 PM
It looks like a stuffed dog or stuffed toy in the background to me.

It can't be completely ruled out. I guess we are being asked to accept that the people involved with this picture went back to the scene to try and find a statue / stuffed dog in order to rule it out. At least I would assume that.
If it was a stuffed animal then something as weird looking as this would almost certainly have been remembered by those at the scene as well, so, a difficult one to call, IMO.

humito
06-04-2009, 11:09 PM
its a double exposure for sure ....the other pictiure is of a child with a toy dog or real dog ..........i think this because if you look at the second close up , behind the red square you can see part of a childs face too.

humito
06-04-2009, 11:14 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FkAI_ee_eBA/SN56J5r75SI/AAAAAAAAAok/wySloe5FV1I/s400/ugly-dog-pic.jpg

click to enlarge

this is probably a better candidate! lol...........:D

humito
06-04-2009, 11:36 PM
i love the way its eating its own foot :D

sukyspook
07-04-2009, 10:11 AM
If this is genuine then.........shiiit!
It's the look in its eyes that freaks me out

http://ghoststudy.com/galleria/mar09/ghost_tiss10011.htm

I knew I'd seen that dog somewhere before.....at 2' 28":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkdqwJCcvwY&feature=PlayList&p=F94D769E3AF139A8&index=9

There are three types of Jinn/demon:

snip

Abu Tha’labah al-Khushani said: “The Messenger of Allaah May Allah's peace and blessings be on him said:

‘The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey.”

[Shaykh al-Albaani said in al-Mishkaat (2/1206, no. 4148): al-Tahhaawi and Abu’l-Shaykh reported it with a saheeh isnaad]

snip

read the rest at:
http://muttaqun.com/jinn.html

....and remember Madonna and the song 'Frozen'......:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

humito
07-04-2009, 11:26 AM
MMMMMMM............lol.its a double exposure cos you can see a kid holding the toy dog............its eyes look weird because they are small plastic,free moving discs inside clear containers making the pupils look in different directions........doesnt anyone wonder why its where it is in the photo..........it would have to be a hover demon dog also whose lower jaw could melt into a shoulder............is a good pic though........how would a normal camera capture something invisible to the naked eye?? thats impossible as film needs light to expose it,therefore the demon would have been clearly seen by everyone and the couple who were wed would not be looking so happy :D

whiteshadow
07-04-2009, 12:33 PM
MMMMMMM............lol.its a double exposure cos you can see a kid holding the toy dog............its eyes look weird because they are small plastic,free moving discs inside clear containers making the pupils look in different directions........doesnt anyone wonder why its where it is in the photo..........it would have to be a hover demon dog also whose lower jaw could melt into a shoulder............is a good pic though........how would a normal camera capture something invisible to the naked eye?? thats impossible as film needs light to expose it,therefore the demon would have been clearly seen by everyone and the couple who were wed would not be looking so happy :D

At the moment I'm not buying the kid holding the toy dog theory. Can you say more about where you see the kid?
I would love there to be a rational explanation for the photo though.

It does say in the notes that fakery has been ruled out, but doesn't specifically mention double exposure. If it is double exposure then it is a very small area of the whole photo, and seems beyond pure chance that it would end up where it did.

Your point about how a camera could capture something invisible to the naked eye opens up the debate not only on this photo but on all unexplained 'ghost' pics and is an interesting one. Can the optics of a camera see beyond the abilities of the human eye?
There are so many unexplained photos in existence that I probably would say yes to that.
Or perhaps everyone can naturally see just as well as the camera, but most people are conditioned to filter them out, whereas a medium does not? :confused::confused::)

ronisron
07-04-2009, 04:40 PM
It looks more like a badger than a dog, for what it's worth. The interesting thing to me is that he was a drug addict, and some describe addiction as a "monkey on my back". Many drug addicts also claim that they are possessed by dark energies which compel them to continue with something that they intellectually know is killing them. That may or may mot be a psychic manifestation of how this gentleman viewed his circumstances.

Once he had the existence of this energy "confirmed" by physical proof, it was the impetus he used to turn his life around. Great pic, great story.

leon11
15-08-2010, 03:44 AM
has anyone heard of David Berkowitz? the 'son of sam' killer believed he was being contacted by a demonic canine. It turns out he was introduced to satanism by a cult...some people say that he didn't act alone and that he became a scapegoat for the elite....
kind of connected anyway :)

jconnar
15-08-2010, 03:53 AM
The drugs will drop your cognetive defences and allow stuff like this to get to you I believe.

loveisthelaw
15-08-2010, 04:04 AM
every human (junkie or not) has a spirit that accompanies them everywhere they go, every human, every where, every second of the day until they die.

Abu Tha’labah al-Khushani said: “The Messenger of Allaah said: ‘The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey.”

http://muttaqun.com/jinn.html

http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/surah72.html

majestic1
15-08-2010, 08:53 AM
The old wives tale of throwing salt over your left shoulder to blind the devil may have some truth to it.

edward_sivyour
20-08-2010, 12:53 PM
Being a graphic designer I can tell you that putting an image into an old photograph and making it look real is a tough job. And to me it looks real enough.
My explanation is that it's some sort of ornament.

-Ed

superearther
20-08-2010, 10:01 PM
yeah i remember seeing this on tv......Im sure its real

codie
21-08-2010, 12:15 AM
I need to look into this.

spitalwings
21-08-2010, 07:40 AM
Why can't it just be a dog? It's just some crackheads word that there was no dog there when the picture was taken. It looks quite friendly. If you watch those bullshit TV shows about ghosts the evidence is always pathetic, people just wanna cash in. I believe in ghosts by the way.

codie
21-08-2010, 02:59 PM
Why can't it just be a dog? It's just some crackheads word that there was no dog there when the picture was taken. It looks quite friendly. If you watch those bullshit TV shows about ghosts the evidence is always pathetic, people just wanna cash in. I believe in ghosts by the way.

I totally understand what you are saying. I too am struggling to believe that when I saw it (twice) it was something unexplainable.

It may have just been a lone lost dog... that appeared in the middle of a field(although close to me, slowly walking towards me), and as I turned to get my phone(i was in my car) to call for advice from a mate(i had to get out the car you see and I was apprehensive) it just disapeared.... it must have ran like lighting maybe.
It was white, kinda like a doberman, with red eyes and pointy ears.
The second time it was in front of my car(again I was stationery) and I don't for the life of me remember how it left. I have no recolection. I can't say that it walked off because I don't remember that happening, this would make it more explainable you see.

motokeiru
04-09-2010, 04:07 AM
lol that looks so much like a fake dog.

stopthemadness
04-09-2010, 11:08 AM
http://ghoststudy.com/galleria/mar09/ghoul084.jpg

That porcelain vase is doing some awfully funny morphing next to the dog, don't you think?

Somebody is pulling your leg. It's an altered photo.

Besides, psychopomps have red eyes, not yellow.

ragnarok
04-09-2010, 11:13 AM
I realise that you can tell certain things just by examining the photo, but to give an "expert" opinion, wouldn't you need to see the negative?

stopthemadness
04-09-2010, 06:49 PM
I am not a photo analysis expert. But in the magnified image, the porcelain vase morphs, extending under the dog's jaw. Part of the white vase can be seen between the dog's jaw and the man's shoulder. Clearly porcelain cannot do this in normal "reality."

Either the appearance of a Jinn can distort optics/space, or the photo is a fake. Which one is your call. For me, I'm calling it a fake.

That's a scary avatar by the way.

don coyote
05-09-2010, 02:03 AM
Have you seen this guy's tattoo? :eek:

kingmob
06-09-2010, 10:45 PM
Why does it have to be evil? What if its just his guardian spirit?

The dog looks kinda cool if you ask me.

yass
22-09-2010, 01:31 AM
JINN aka reptilian shapeshifters aka demons aka a few other terms:

The Jinn can take the form of physical objects, and possess the human body. In the world of magic, the Jinn possess the black cat and black dog, the Prophet Muhammad recited a prayer against the Jinns.
Source (http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/jinn_dragons_rebuttal.htm)

Jinn can take the form of physical objects
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt312/yassx/ScreenShot029-11.jpg

yass
22-09-2010, 01:43 AM
I put this image in JPEGsnoop to check the compression signatures.
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/orgone/orgone%20experiments/t1/t1/t2/ghoul081.jpg

Photoshop can be ruled out. There is no photoshop compression signature.
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/orgone/orgone%20experiments/t1/t1/t2/img229.jpg

smokey_shaman
23-09-2010, 03:58 PM
Wouldn’t that only work with the original JPEG? Seeing as how this photo is so wide spread, what makes you think that it the original JPEG you analyzed and not just a saved copy of a copy of a copy of a copy...ect. I am sure it would have lost its original compression marks. Now it’s a good chance it’s a fake regardless. Looks like someone just inserted it behind the guy. Its light source looks off too. It appears to have been given a green color variation to semi match the photo. Also it could be the lady with a hand puppet reaching with her elbow bent behind the guy. More I think about it, that’s what I would say it is. Because you don’t see her hand anywhere and where it would be is where the dogs face is.

graflok
23-09-2010, 07:12 PM
Doesn't it look like the woman's arm is extended behind him?

Could she be holding a toy dog or puppet, etc?

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4783/ghoul081.jpg

yass
24-09-2010, 01:35 AM
Doesn't it look like the woman's arm is extended behind him?

Could she be holding a toy dog or puppet, etc?

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4783/ghoul081.jpg

It does graflok, and in turn, doesn't this look like five... hairy fingers and a thumb resting on his shoulder?

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/orgone/orgone%20experiments/t1/t1/t2/thumbn5fingers.jpg

yass
24-09-2010, 03:57 AM
It does graflok, and in turn, doesn't this look like five... hairy fingers and a thumb resting on his shoulder?

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/orgone/orgone%20experiments/t1/t1/t2/thumbn5fingers.jpg
Then again, maybe what I'm interpreting as a fifth finger is just the palm area of her hand and that really dark finger is her pinky finger.

hmm.

graflok
24-09-2010, 05:49 AM
Yes, looks to me that that could be her hand there on his shoulder.

Then that would put the "dog" on top of her arm somehow. :confused: