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dell66759
07-07-2007, 07:30 PM
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umbrex
07-07-2007, 09:02 PM
the movie is only controversial if you buy into the agenda.

december
07-07-2007, 10:08 PM
The Jews are people who believe in Judaism which means that it is the IDEAS of this religion that make people of different nations who converted into Judaism to behave the way they did for hundreds of years.

To understand what this religion is all about one needs to read at least the Old Testament:

When the LORD Your God shall bring you into the land that you didn't to possess, and drive out many nations before you, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than you;
And when the LORD You God shall deliver them before you; you shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; you shalt make no treaties with them, nor show mercy to them"

Deuteronomy, chapter 7

Deuteronomy, chapter 7 - Google Search

And of course todays Jews are just the Khazars who CONVERTED into Judaism in the 7th century.

http://www.khazaria.com/images/khazaria.gif

Are Russian Jews Descended from the Khazars?
A Reassessment Based upon the Latest Historical, Archaeological, Linguistic, and Genetic Evidence

http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-diaspora.html



Are They "Jews" or Are They Really Khazars?

By Warrant of Rev. 2:9

The Campaign for Radical Truth in History

http://www.hoffman-info-com

New York Times Reveals that European-Descended Jews are Counterfeits and have no Blood line to Abraham

The fact that most of those who call themselves Jews are not Jews (Rev. 2:9) and have no claim to the lands of Palestine because they have no genetic relation to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob can no longer be suppressed. The October 29, 1996 N.Y. Times, in an article entitled, "Scholars Debate Origins of Yiddish and the Migrations of Jews," states:

"Arching over these questions is the central mystery of just where the Jews of Eastern Europe came from. Many historians believe that there were not nearly enough Jews in Western Europe to account for the huge population that later flourished in Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and nearby areas.

"By reconstructing the Yiddish mother tongue, linguists hope to plot the migration of the Jews and their language with a precision never possible before.

"It has even been suggested, on the basis of linguistic evidence, that the Jews of Eastern Europe were not predominantly part of the diaspora from the Middle East, but were members of another ethnic group that adopted Judaism.

"...One linguist has recently argued that Yiddish began as a Slavic language that was 'relexified,' with most of its vocabulary replaced with German words.

"...Even more troublesome are demographic studies indicating that during the Middle Ages there were no more than 25,000 to 35,000 Jews in Western Europe. These figures are hard to reconcile with other studies showing that by the 17th century there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.

"...Some scholars believe the roots of Yiddish, and even the Ashkenazic people themselves, lie much farther east. In his 1976 book, The Thirteenth Tribe, Arthur Koestler made the startling suggestion, never taken seriously by linguists, that the Eastern European Jews were not really Semitic -- that they were largely descended from the Turkish Khazars, who converted en masse to Judaism in medieval times.

"More recently, Koestler's controversial thesis has been revived and expanded in a 1993 book, The Ashkenazic 'Jews': A Slavo-Turkic People in Search of a Jewish Identity (Slavica Publishers), by Dr. Paul Wexler, a Tel Aviv University linguist.

"Wexler uses a reconstruction of Yiddish to argue that it began as a Slavic language whose vocabulary was largely replaced with German words. Going even further, he contends that the Ashkenazic Jews are predominantly converted Slavs and Turks who merged with a tiny population of Palestinian Jews from the Diaspora."



A quote from the Bryan Rigg's book "HITLER'S JEWISH SOLDIER":

Stella Goldschlag, a Jew, helped the Gestapo hunt down hidden Jews in Berlin to deport to the East. She was a beautiful woman,


http://www.revisionisthistory.org/khazars.html



http://www.biblestudysite.com/13tribe.jpg

THE KHAZAR EMPIRE AND ITS HERITAGE
This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark Ages became converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry. . .

The Khazars' sway extended from the Black Sea to the Caspian, from the Caucasus to the Volga, and they were instrumental in stopping the Muslim onslaught against Byzantium, the eastern jaw of the gigantic pincer movement that in the West swept across northern Africa and into Spain.

In the second part of this book, "The Heritage," Mr. Koestler speculates about the ultimate faith of the Khazars and their impact on the racial composition and social heritage of modern Jewry. He produces a large body of meticulously detailed research in support of a theory that sounds all the more convincing for the restraint with which it is advanced. Yet should this theory be confirmed, the term "anti-Semitism" would become void of meaning, since, as Mr. Koestler writes, it is based "on a misapprehension shared by both the killers and their victims. The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated."

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

mk72
07-07-2007, 11:51 PM
Yes I agree with December and further back in time these were the true Israelites:

Researches by revisionist historians Comyns Beaumont and L. A. Waddell, and more recently by authors Ahmed Osman and Ralph Ellis, assist us to put a whole new light on those Levites who accompanied Moses (Akhenaton) on his Exodus out of Egypt. It turns out that they were anything but captives or slaves. They were, in fact, descended from the so-called "Hyksos Kings," a strange and violent race who had ruled in Egypt for approximately 300 years before Akhenaton's Dynasty rose to power around 1650 BC (during the 12th and 13th Dynasties). The lie of Jewish slavery had already been refuted by top Jewish historians but the mystery of their actual status was rarely probed. If they were not captives or slaves then what were they? And why the falsification? The terminology of some passages in the Old Testament, provides intriguing clues – Akhenaton, the cult of Aton and the dark side of the sun –Michael Tsarion
Do not oppress an alien; you yourselves know how it feels to be aliens, because you were aliens in Egypt - Exodus 23:9
…the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints - Colossians 1:26
In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to men in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God's holy apostles and prophets. This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus - (Ephesians 3:4-6)
Josephus, the patriotic Jewish historian, who believed that the Hyksos were "the children of Israel", quoted Manetho as saying that "they were a people of ignoble race who had confidence to invade our country, which they subdued easily without having to fight a battle. They set our towns on fire; they destroyed the temples of the gods, and caused the people to suffer every kind of barbarity - Donald Mackenzie (Egyptian Myth and Legend, 1907)
the Hyksos overran Memphis and set up their capital there. They later moved to Avaris which was, suggestively, the same city occupied by the Levite followers of Moses. Avaris was basically a garrison town and it was held by over a quarter of a million men in arms. Avaris was also known as Tanis and as Zoan. This latter term is close to the term Zion. If it is the same word then the constant references by Jews to the time of Zion really refer to the period of rule of the despotic Hyksos Kings ("Dragon Court") to whom they were related. According to Ralph Ellis the patriarch known as Abraham (from Ab'ram - meaning "of Ra the Father") was the first Pharaoh of these despised Hyksos People. His sister and wife Sarah eventually married the Pharaoh of Southern Egypt forming a union with that rival, and more native, House. This alliance would have resulted in future mixed-marriages (like Amenhotep III's with Tiye and Yuya with Asenath, etc,) and to claims to the throne from foreign-blooded heirs (the majority of the Pharaohs of the Eighteenth Dynasty fit this type). Although such people lived in Egypt and even though they sat on the thrones, does not mean that they were truly Egyptian. It does not mean that they cared for the native opulace or for the ancient ways and customs. The cover-ups and gloss overs of modern Egyptologists and historians does not render this fact untrue. Akhenaton, the cult of Aton and the dark side of the sun –Michael Tsarion

Allegedly, another Egyptian term for the Hyksos was Shasu. This term meant "Shepherds." And we might note how frequently this term is employed in the Bible. The great scholar Gerald Massey wrote of the Shasu and identified them as the proto Israelites:
The people of Ysiraal in this inscription are identified by the Pharaoh with the nomads of the Edomite Shasu or shepherds, and are classed by him with the confederate marauders who invaded Egypt with the Libu, and were defeated with huge slaughter at the battle of Procepis (Pa-ar-shep, which is also recorded on the monuments. They were a tribe or totemic community of cattle-keepers, one of “the tribes of the Shasu from the land of Aduma” who went down into Egypt in search of grazing ground to find sustenance for their herds in the eastern region of the Delta. At this very time, when the people of Ysiraal and their seed were being “wiped out” or annihilated as the Israelites in Syria, there was an exodus of the Edomite Shasu which has been pressed into the service of false theory on behalf of biblical “history”. These tribes had considered the eastern region of the Delta, as far as Zoan, to be their own possession, until they were driven out by Seti I - GeraldMassey (Egypt: Light of the World)
The Hyksos did not have a good reputation among the Egyptians, whose national traditions depicted them as plunderers of cities and temples, cruel and impious barbarians faithful only to their god Seth, that veritable incarnation of evil in the Osiris legend - Joseph Meleze Modrzejewski (The Jews of Egypt: From Rameses II to Emperor Hadrian)
Josephus, the patriotic Jewish historian, who believed that the Hyksos were "the children of Israel", quoted Manetho as saying that "they were a people of ignoble race who had confidence to invade our country, which they subdued easily without having to fight a battle. They set our towns on fire; they destroyed the temples of the gods, and caused the people to suffer every kind of barbarity. During the entire period of their dynasty they waged war against the people of Egypt, desiring to exterminate the whole race...The foreigners were called Hyksos, which signifies 'Shepherd Kings" - Donald MacKenzie (Egyptian Myth and Legend, 1907)
And the barbarians were among them, destroying buildings, While they governed, not knowing Ra - Manetho (Ancient Egyptian History)
Akhenaton, the cult of Aton and the dark side of the sun –Michael Tsarion

dell66759
16-07-2007, 11:23 PM
Yes I agree, from what I have seen so far everything points to the fact that most "Jews" today are actually Khazars who converted to Judaism in the 7th century. However it still doesn't mean that the real Jews are actually any better. After all it was the real Jews who killed our Lord Jesus and also who prosecuted Christians in the early centuries.

dell66759
16-07-2007, 11:26 PM
the movie is only controversial if you buy into the agenda.

Of course I buy into it because it's all true and makes perfect sense.