WTF! Alex Jones Interviews Rothschild!!!!!!!

[bicycle]

TODAY ON THE
ALEX JONES SHOW

David Mayer de Rothschild


Alex is joined by the youngest heir to the British wing of the Rothschild banking family and Anti-Global Warming crusader, David de Rothschild, to discuss his companion book to the upcoming Live Earth concert entitled, "The Live Earth Global Warming Survival Handbook" :eek::eek::eek::eek:


http://www.infowars.com/

[dondaz]

This will be interesting. Anyone think Alex will give him laods about the state of affairs that his family is helping to create?

He had bloody better!

If anyone can get hold of this interview, please post a link.;)

[tinmenace]

Makes me wonder how enlightened Alex Jones REALLY is, or if he's in denial. Me thinks there is a bit of denial going on. He still has to get through the religious trap.

So, not completely awake, but trying his darndest, it seems...

[logic bomb]

Makes me wonder how enlightened Alex Jones REALLY is, or if he's in denial. Me thinks there is a bit of denial going on. He still has to get through the religious trap.

So, not completely awake, but trying his darndest, it seems...

Maybe you should give it a listen before you make judgmental comments.

lb

[bicycle]

I love Alex Jones, I think he is uniquely brilliant.

You can download the interview here:

The Alex Jones Show - Rothchild Interview - 06 July 2007.mp3

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.html?info_hash=a144a24e3e70aba595f37c09632d3 69791feab5e

[logic bomb]

I think he did a pretty good job. At least he let loose AJ style :D

lb

[tinmenace]

Maybe you should give it a listen before you make judgmental comments.

lb

I wasn't commenting on the interview, really, just about AJ in general.

[logic bomb]

I wasn't commenting on the interview, really, just about AJ in general.

Oh OK :)

lb

[titurel]

Makes me wonder how enlightened Alex Jones REALLY is, or if he's in denial. Me thinks there is a bit of denial going on. He still has to get through the religious trap...
There's nothing wrong with having religious views, depending on what ones definition of the word 'religion' is. If we take religion to simply mean to connect with source, then if you don't have religious views in this context, i.e., no passion, you can't know where your heading and you become a leaf in the wind and an ideal subject for the elite to toy with. You don't have to belong to any organised religious institution to be religious or have a spiritual outlook, and it's worth remembering that even though the real people who lead the world are Satanists, they are also at the same time wishful atheists in that they want to cut our world of from God.

[fist fury]

Religion and related forms of thinking are the biggest hinderance to truth itself.

If there was a "creator" why doesn't he just appear NOW and set things right? Why does religion in general promote the idea that it knows everything by saying that you dont know anything and you should just listen or follow the rules set by this being that you can't see.

What is real is here and now. Being theoretical is fine as long as you use it to predict events from it. Religion is "we know the outcome, sit tight and dont do anything", or "do what this 'book' says". Its never about our own human potential.

[Ian2day]

mp3 of the interview is here

http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/060707rothschild.mp3

[titurel]

Religion and related forms of thinking are the biggest hinderance to truth itself.

If there was a "creator" why doesn't he just appear NOW and set things right? Why does religion in general promote the idea that it knows everything by saying that you dont know anything and you should just listen or follow the rules set by this being that you can't see.

What is real is here and now. Being theoretical is fine as long as you use it to predict events from it. Religion is "we know the outcome, sit tight and dont do anything", or "do what this 'book' says". Its never about our own human potential.
Your definition of religion is different to the one that I quoted because the definition I quoted does not include the idea that we don't know anything, and neither does the definition I quoted include the belief that says "don't do anything". If you read and understand Revelation, for example, a significant part of it is about us realising our full potential.

I really can't understand people who say there is no God, especially when the rulers of this world are Reptilian... Reptilians who wish to blind us from God and prevent us having a connection with him. If there's no God, we're fucked because mortal man will never sort the world out for himself without continuous arguments, strife, greed, lies and wars. Just as there are wicked fallen beings in higher dimensions , there are also beings that have remained faithful. Just as Reptilians have a leader, so do these beings who are faithful, have a leader and that is God. Everything living that lives communally must have a leader. Without a true and honest leader there can be no progress to the kind of world we truly deserve. I can guarantee you that man himself will never elect a leader who can universally unite humanity to drag the world out of the abyss it's reeling towards and maintain a harmonious world because we humans simply are still lacking too much knowledge and wisdom. The NWO agenda is just around the corner from full realisation. That gives us humans only a few years to find someone to lead us. Were such a leader to be found, such a leader would never have enough time to learn all about how to govern the world to bring it to a state in which peace and harmony reigned in true love and security. Such a task is impossible.

The world is under attack by supernatural beings and only supernatural beings with more power can thwart the Reptilian agenda and if anyone can't realise that, they are still sleeping... may be not as deeply as those who blindly follow religions and their political leaders, but still sleeping nevertheless.

[tinmenace]

Well, for the sake of argument, we need to all agree on the definition of "religion" because if you have a different definition than I do, then we're not on the same page, and ultimately going in circles.

If you have given the word "religion" an alternate meaning (for what ever reason??) then this is an issue...

Why don't we stick to the generally accepted universal definition of "religion", or let's agree on a definition before we go forward on this. Because this is silly.

So, you go first, titurel. Define religion.

[titurel]

So, you go first, titurel. Define religion.
I gave my defintion of religion in the post you replied to... perhaps you missed it? Never mind! I wrote:

"If we take religion to simply mean to connect with source..."

[tinmenace]

I gave my defintion of religion in the post you replied to... perhaps you missed it? Never mind! I wrote:

"If we take religion to simply mean to connect with source..."


Please don't get snippy with me. It's very troll-esque.

So, to you religion is to connect with source? That's pretty open ended and broad. That could be the definition of spirituality also, which is different to religion, in my opinion..

You'll need to be more specific please.

[titurel]

Please don't get snippy with me. It's very troll-esque.
Snippy? My, you are touchy... I was merely pointing out that I had already given a defintion and I couldn't have put it any more politely. It's actually "troll-esque" to suggest otherwise.

So, to you religion is to connect with source? That's pretty open ended and broad. That could be the definition of spirituality also, which is different to religion, in my opinion...

You'll need to be more specific please.
I didn't intend to give a concise defintion... that's why I gave a broad one, if only to illustrate that religion need not be associated with the things that 'fist fury', in a post above, associated them with. In reply to fist fury, I did give more information about alternative defintions for religion, especially in the first paragraph...

...the definition [of religion] I quoted does not include the idea that we don't know anything, and neither does the definition I quoted include the belief that says "don't do anything". If you read and understand Revelation, for example, a significant part of it is about us realising our full potential.

I really can't understand people who say there is no God, especially when the rulers of this world are Reptilian... Reptilians who wish to blind us from God and prevent us having a connection with him. If there's no God, we're fucked because mortal man will never sort the world out for himself without continuous arguments, strife, greed, lies and wars. Just as there are wicked fallen beings in higher dimensions , there are also beings that have remained faithful. Just as Reptilians have a leader, so do these beings who are faithful, have a leader and that is God. Everything living that lives communally must have a leader. Without a true and honest leader there can be no progress to the kind of world we truly deserve. I can guarantee you that man himself will never elect a leader who can universally unite humanity to drag the world out of the abyss it's reeling towards and maintain a harmonious world because we humans simply are still lacking too much knowledge and wisdom. The NWO agenda is just around the corner from full realisation. That gives us humans only a few years to find someone to lead us. Were such a leader to be found, such a leader would never have enough time to learn all about how to govern the world to bring it to a state in which peace and harmony reigned in true love and security. Such a task is impossible.

The world is under attack by supernatural beings and only supernatural beings with more power can thwart the Reptilian agenda and if anyone can't realise that, they are still sleeping... may be not as deeply as those who blindly follow religions and their political leaders, but still sleeping nevertheless.

[titurel]

Rottenshield helping out "The Live Earth" concert?

What a joke (distraction) "The Live Earth" concert is!

How green and naive. No wonder the illuminati want to make the world green. ONENESS is Rothschild green... YUCK!:eek:

[tickles]

I love Alex Jones, I think he is uniquely brilliant.

You can download the interview here:

The Alex Jones Show - Rothchild Interview - 06 July 2007.mp3

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.html?info_hash=a144a24e3e70aba595f37c09632d3 69791feab5e

How do i use that link?. Do i need to be logged in to use it.
I use Utorrent.
Thanks.

[tinmenace]

Snippy? My, you are touchy...

That's right, I have a nose for BS. Please prove me wrong.

I was merely pointing out that I had already given a defintion and I couldn't have put it any more politely.

You didn't try hard enough.

It's actually "troll-esque" to suggest otherwise.

Define troll-esque




I didn't intend to give a concise defintion...

You mean you DID mean to give a concise definition.... because the definition you gave was even LESS THAN CONCISE. It's vague and open-ended.

...that's why I gave a broad one,

Very broad indeed, and hardly a definition.

...if only to illustrate that religion need not be associated with the things that 'fist fury', in a post above, associated them with.

It's different for each person. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it means to you...




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[titurel]

No wonder David Icke left the "Green" party!

Green = naive

The Green Movement is a movement spreading naivety.

Sure let's improve the atmosphere of the world but the whole story must be given, not just the snapshot. Pop stars need to start spilling the full shit about what's happening in our world.

Just think of all that manure that will revitalise the world. if all the shit is flushed down the loo!

Sexy blue and white, for example, is much more interesting than naive green.

Let's paint the town red! Paint that green man red!

[titurel]

It's different for each person. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it means to you...
Please bear in mind that in my original post, I deliberately began by stating "if...", as in "If we take religion to mean... then..."

The defintion I gave for religion is dictionary bonafide:

Religion

from Latin re (again) + ligare (to connect)

Re-connection to the divine–from Latin re (again) + ligare (to connect, as in English ligament (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligament)).

[fist fury]

The whole green/spiritual/john lennon/etc. movement is a farce. These type of people only create the illusion that because there is "evil" there MUST be an opposing "good" force that will come to the rescue if we just "BELIEVE".

We are facing an enemy that is beyond anything we can imagine and it doesnt just stop with the illuminati.

Take Alex Jones for what he is worth, some of his news, documentaries, etc. spreading the 'truth out', reject his religious crap, althought he isnt fanatical about it.

There is no such thing as an absolute answer or solution anywhere to be found. We can only move on and adapt because we are at the mercy of reality and until we can control it, not fake illumintai 'reality' using LSD/propaganda we can never stop.

[titurel]

But we're also talking about other dimensional beings who are against us and that's the crux of the matter.

There are malevolent other dimensional beings but there are also more powerful higher dimensional beings that are for us... mankind will be totally in bondage to the Reptilian Elite if it would not be for God. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't play our own part in exposing lies and corruption, when they do all finally come out, and there is still plenty more to come, it's going to cause an unheavenly stink that is going to suffocate a lot of people who are already up to their necks in shit and human sacrificed blood.

This is a very serious business.

But it's also important to maintain a good sense of humour.

[tinmenace]

Please bear in mind that in my original post, I deliberately began by stating "if...", as in "If we take religion to mean... then..."

The defintion I gave for religion is dictionary bonafide:

Religion

from Latin re (again) + ligare (to connect)

Re-connection to the divine–from Latin re (again) + ligare (to connect, as in English ligament (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligament)).

Sorry, still having a problem with your translation, because when I looked up LIGARE, this is what I found:



http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ligare.jpg

Source (http://catholic.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookit.pl?latin=ligare)



Most other translators didn't even recognize LIGARE as a Latin word.

But you know, I have to agree because religion, according to your choice of Latin word, really does mean IMPRISONMENT, BONDAGE, CAPTIVITY and SERVITUDE.

So, do we go forward with this definition, or do you want to fine tune it any further?

[fccool]

I'm still amazed by how delusional people are that they fail to recognize this very simple issue. Religion defined by dictionary (emphasis mine)

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.


According to this definition... EVERYBODY is a religious person. No exceptions.

If you believe that there is no God, you have to naturally believe that we originated by something else that was extra-human cause. If you logically believe that every cause should have an effect and vice versa, then there's some original cause to anything that exists outside of our concieved notion of Time (cause and effect is a time issue). That cause I call God, you call Universal contiousness, evolutionists call chance, and etc.

If you believe that killing humans is wrong as opposed to killing bugs or plants... where do you get that belief? Animals don't think in terms of right and wrong. So you see, you are a moral person guided by moral principles that you ritually abserve. Why do you celebrate your birthday every year... ritually...? If not, why do you not celebrate your birthday every year? (like JWs) Also ritually.

People have this delusion that everything outside of concept of "Church" and "God" is somehow outside of scope of religion. People go to Church because they assume pastors know more than they are, people go to Icke's gatherings because they assume that Icke knows more than they are. Whether you go to church, or go to Icke's gatherings ... you accept the ideas religiously. No-one to this day presented solid evidence of reptilian shape-shifting. I can probably safely assume that you have not seen one. But that does not stop people believing the theory. The except is as a fact. That's what we call faith, bud. Exceptiong things that you can't experience as a fact based on logical assumtions.

So for you to say that religious people are "behind the stone wall", or ignorant... is an ignorant statement in itself. Why? First of all, as I have showed you already, according to definition... you are a religious believer. Secondly, you ignore the evidence presented to you simply because you have a prejudice against anything connected to "Christian God" or "God" for that matter. So to clarify some assumptions for you.

1) Whatever you believe, you believe religiously

2) I happen to believe that there is an intelligent being who exists outside of time, and he chooses not to reveal itself because he wants us to have choice in the matter. Trully loving somebody means that you let them make decisions they want. I respect that. It's a complex issues I would love to completely understand, but this is as closely I can approach and logically explain it. IF God treated you like your parents do ( i.e. you have very little choice in any matter until you are 18 and sometimes way later), then this world would all be " Must love God, or else he will zap me" types.

3) The "rules" are not to keep you from haning fun and enjoying your life. Al contre. It is to bring order in a world. You don't have to be a genious to see that this world, no matter how screwed up it may seem (mainly because of us), is pretty darn well organized. Any attempt to enterfere with this built... and you will have a disaster on your hands. Example... Try not to eat or drink for 5 days. Oh, you can't? Why? Your body functions a certain way. You would not go against rules that your body sets forward. So for everything that you do to go against the natural laws of this world ... I'm not talking about not pissing on the fence (unless it is a fence of an angry neighbour), there are consequences. So jumping from top of the high building does not make much sence. It does not matter how much of an illusion you believe this world it... you will not do it. Why? You have a certain set of rules that you deduce in your mind. Sometimes by observing others, sometimes by observing yourself. So we can assume that there is some kind of moral law, if humans are in fact moral beings. You would not have sex with your mother... like animals do. Why? Why is it when siblings merry each other, their offsprings turn out to be dibelitated? Just few of the questions for you to think about.

4) Bible, compared to any other literature... is written over several thousand of years... and is one of the oldest literature and historical sources we have. It has tremendous insights and wisdom on how this world works, and historical events that preceeded or time, and that will happen in the future. Icke himself is quoting from the book, yet he believes it to be a pile of crap. For those of you who think that it was somehow mistranslated and over the years has been changed... the accidentally discovered Dead Sea scrolls are almost 100% identical to what you find on the shelf in the hotel room (I don't know if they do that kind of thing in Britain or other countries).

5) Bible does not promote the Idea of soul surviving the bodily death, believe it or not. If you pick up and read it and make your own conclusions outside of doctines of Churches... you will find very interesting discreptancies to what the Churches teach today, and what the authors are communicating.
To this day we still don't know what makes us age and die. There's essentially no difference between a dead cell and living cell. We can't make life. Viruses are not living organisms... these are simply shells with DNA strand. So to this day we can not bring living back from the dead. No matter what it is. So the promice of eternal life... is simply put ... a promice that God, who created this world will resurect you if you let him to. He would not want you have something you don't want. And no, he will not let you suffer in "hell" for eternity for simply refusing to believe.


6) Bible authors do not teach Jewish or Christian superiority. Al contre. They teach that you have to treat others how you would expect to be treated. They even go as far as promoting serving others just to set an example. The authors have never expected change of belief system by means of force (unlike Catholic church interperetation).

7) The authors have accuratly predicted, and gave insight on future events (or past, their future) and the events that are going on right now and about to take place. But you have to understand that you can't just pick up Revelation and take it literaly. It uses past events as keys to what will happen in the future. It's pretty complex, and pretty shocking how right on it is. Saying that the Mark of the beast is a microchip is simply trying to conform the allegory to your worldview. Microchip mark of the beast is a diversion IMO. I can elaborate on this more if you would like me to.

8) ALL of the churches of the world do not teach what authors or Jesus taught. They peddle tradition and conformity. In fact, the authors urge you to leave these and engage in meaningful discussions in small groups to find truth. Kind of what we are doing right now. Church is not a building or organisation, Ironically the word that is translated to be church is "Ecclesia".. and it means "Those who has been called out of". So ironically enough, Church are those people who have left the "Chruch" according to the Bible. It is not hard to believe when you see something along these lines : http://www.godhatesfags.com/ . These people take the truth and twist it for control and fear mongering.

9) The authors teach transformation of mind as a key to salvation. Not simply believing... but breaking free from the way this world is controlled and operated by forces behind the scenes. But transformation can begin only when you want it to. It is unlearning process in a way, and then relearning to think differently. God acted in lives of people in past, which was recorded by writers of Old Testament not for the purpoces of creating dogmas... BUT AS EXAMPLES TO US TO LEARN FROM. So transforming the way you think will eventually lead to true freedom. And this is what Christianity is all about IMO. True freedom. Freedom from the bullshit that this world is in right now knee high.

You see, people view God as some parole officer who will lock you up the moment you screw up. God gives you plenty of room for mistakes, because this is the way you learn. BUT... you have to learn from mistakes, and not embrace those. If you embrace those, and think... "Well, I know that what we are doing in Iraq is pretty horrible, but I'm a decider and I will decide what is better. I will find a text in the Bible out of context to back my decision up"... then you don't really want to change, in which case you will ultimately destroy yourself. This is punishment enough.

If you find anything I say illogical or untrue, let me know. I want to seek truth just as any of you here.

[titurel]

Sorry, still having a problem with your translation, because when I looked up LIGARE, this is what I found:



Most other translators didn't even recognize LIGARE as a Latin word.

But you know, I have to agree because religion, according to your choice of Latin word, really does mean IMPRISONMENT, BONDAGE, CAPTIVITY and SERVITUDE.

So, do we go forward with this definition, or do you want to fine tune it any further?
I'll fine tune it further...

But in my original post, I did say "if we take religion to mean reconnecting to source"... ... ... "if" being the operative word because I'm familiar with this argument about the Latin meaning of "religion". Different scholars take opposing views about the translation, which is why I used the word "if".

I'm not religious about proving what religion means either way, in respect to it's Latin. I could easily have said, "if we take religion to mean to be passionate about something", and that is the spirit I meant it in.

Of course no one wants to be tied in bondage to something and it's not that kind of religion I was referring to. Any kind of belief can be a religion, so it's important that we examine our beliefs carefully to ensure we have the right religion and one doesn't have to belong to a church or formal organisation and one doesn't even have to label it Christian because that's only a label and the message isn't about labels but having substance and the right beliefs, which of course should always be tested and adjusted if necessary.

Without beliefs there can be no dreams and without dreams and hopes the world is lifeless. Every aspect of the world about us, every part of it, is made up of the dreams and hopes of mankind.

Because people have begun to lose their hopes and forget their dreams, so the Nothing grows stronger. The Nothing is the emptiness that's left; it is like a despair, destroying this world and the Reptilians have been trying to help it because people who have no hopes are easy to control and whoever has the control has the POWER!

[tinmenace]

Without beliefs there can be no dreams and without dreams and hopes the world is lifeless. Every aspect of the world about us, every part of it, is made up of the dreams and hopes of mankind.




Agreed! Belief is something different to religion, however.

What you have described above, is a mild form of quantum thinking, and this is what I believe in. I have the power to change my reality, and I don't need a god to "grant" it to me.

I'm getting tired now, maybe we can pick this up tomorrow. :)

[bigus_dickus]

religion (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=religion&searchmode=none)
c.1200, "state of life bound by monastic vows," also "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," from Anglo-Fr. religiun (11c.), from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods," in L.L. "monastic life" (5c.); according to Cicero, derived from relegare "go through again, read again," from re- "again" + legere "read" (see lecture). However, popular etymology among the later ancients (and many modern writers) connects it with religare "to bind fast" (see rely), via notion of "place an obligation on," or "bond between humans and gods." Another possible origin is religiens "careful," opposite of negligens. Meaning "particular system of faith" is recorded from c.1300.

"To hold, therefore, that there is no difference in matters of religion between forms that are unlike each other, and even contrary to each other, most clearly leads in the end to the rejection of all religion in both theory and practice. And this is the same thing as atheism, however it may differ from it in name." [Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei, 1885]

Modern sense of "recognition of, obedience to, and worship of a higher, unseen power" is from 1535. Religious is first recorded c.1225. Transfered sense of "scrupulous, exact" is recorded from 1599.

[titurel]

Belief is something different to religion, however.

According to the OED, even football can be a religion. You seem to want to narrow down the dictionary defintion and block out all other defintions as if they don't exist.

I have the power to change my reality, and I don't need a god to "grant" it to me.
That's up to you if you want to have that belief... it just happens to coincide with the illuminati's beliefs too... :eek:

[fccool]

[QUOTE=titurel;71504][/SIZE][/FONT]
According to the OED, even football can be a religion. You seem to want to narrow down the dictionary defintion and block out all other defintions as if they don't exist.

Belief that you yourself can not veriy firsthand can not exist outside of realm of religion. You are unknowingly practicing it without realizing what you are doing. If you live in a country that is run by a form of government... you are practicing a religion. Whether it is by force or voluntarily... does not matter. The only thing that matters is diferentiating between good practices that free you and other ones that enslave you. If higher God indeed exists, and there is much evidence that it does, then he is interested in us being free (you don't see it controlling you every move). So stay free, and appreciate God for creating whatver is around you. That's the way to go for me.

[tinmenace]

That's up to you if you want to have that belief... it just happens to coincide with the illuminati's beliefs too... :eek:

And on what do you base that statement?

[titurel]

And on what do you base that statement?
The illuminati do not accept God either... do you want evidence of that? Just look at the fruit they bear!

[tinmenace]

The illuminati do not accept God either...

What do you mean? The loomies are the ones pushing religion.

...do you want evidence of that? Just look at the fruit they bear!

Can you be more specific please?


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[titurel]

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The loomies are pushing a lie. They are prepared to sacrifice human blood on the atlar of their political NWO, and they are enslaving the rest bit by bit in pigeon steps which will culminate in horrid bondage to Mammon, all for their NWO One World False Relgion. They reject God.

[cleft_asunder]

Absolutely fantastic job everyone, at turning what could have been an excellent thread about David Mayer de Rothschild and the AJ interview into another redundant, irrelevant, egoistic and conclusionless argument about religion and AJ himself. If I weren't any wiser, I would conclude that you all had masters degrees in originality.

You guys are sheep, easily devided by the slightest thing.

WAY TO GO AT PROVING YOURSELVES HYPOCRITES!

Fucking n00bs. If you didn't notice, a Red Shield was on the AJ show. <-------See here. Frankly I don't even know where to start regarding the whole thing, but luckly I don't need to since no one is interested any way.

[logic bomb]

Absolutely fantastic job everyone, at turning what could have been an excellent thread about David Mayer de Rothschild and the AJ interview into another redundant, irrelevant, egoistic and conclusionless argument about religion and AJ himself.

I was thinking the same thing.

lb

[cleft_asunder]

I want to add one thing: David Mayer de Rothschild is either the very definition of naive, or (most likely) he's a fantastic actor/liar. Either way, this guy is an impenetrable fortress against facts.

This whole thing is weird. I mean if you read the below bio you get the impression that he loves nature and helping the environment--I mean New Zealand for God's sake, that's a great place to live if you're a nature lover. And he's always laughing, shrugging off everything like supermain against bullets. Now to me it's obvious that he can't be naive, and he knows what it's all really about, yet he seems so genuine. My alternative theory is that when he was born, they already had plans for him NOT to turn him cold blooded, and rather they supported him and painted a false picture of the family and the secrets, so that one day he will be 'nature boy' at the forefront of the man-made global warming and taxation thing. In other words, he's being used and doesn't know it. An enemy that everyone likes is very powerful.

I don't know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Mayer_de_Rothschild

[titurel]

Absolutely fantastic job everyone, at turning what could have been an excellent thread about David Mayer de Rothschild and the AJ interview into another redundant, irrelevant, egoistic and conclusionless argument about religion and AJ himself. If I weren't any wiser, I would conclude that you all had masters degrees in originality.

You guys are sheep, easily devided by the slightest thing.

WAY TO GO AT PROVING YOURSELVES HYPOCRITES!

Fucking n00bs. If you didn't notice, a Red Shield was on the AJ show. <-------See here. Frankly I don't even know where to start regarding the whole thing, but luckly I don't need to since no one is interested any way.
And you're comments weren't designed to divide further? How ironic! Talk about hypocrits! :)

[logic bomb]

David Mayer "NWO scum" Rothschild (born 25 August 1978) is a British adventurer and environmentalist who is head of Adventure Ecology, an expedition group raising awareness about climate change. He is the youngest of the three children of Victoria Schott (b. 1949) and Sir Evelyn de Rothschild (b. 1931) of the Rothschild banking family of England.

:D

lb

[cleft_asunder]

And you're comments weren't designed to divide further? How ironic! Talk about hypocrits! :)

Nope, they were a punch in the face to wake you up. But hey, I've got an idea, let's argue about it.

[smoking oceanus]

Maybe we should start a new thread thats acually about the interview.

[fccool]

Dude, you were so smart and logical! But think about it. Why would the Red Shield be on Alex Joneses program if he is such a poverfull dude that he governs the history of this planet. Do you really think he would give a damn about Alex Johns? I don't give a damn about Alex Johns enough to show up on his program. All he does is violently screams same things over and over again. Nothing new. No logical solutions. Constantly and shamelessly plugs his documentaries that I laugh when I see them. Not because they are not true, but because of the way he presents these as a horror flicks with horror flick music in the background. Enough to send anybody in euphoria. That's all I have to say about war in Vietnam :)

P.S. If only all the posts would be something that pleases the eye of CLEFT_ASUNDER .... then the world would be such a better place to live in ;)

[a fine naked fellow]

Rothschild said Jupiter and Saturn and Mars are closer to the sun! :eek:
ha ha :p

[a fine naked fellow]

Indiana jones, save me! Ha ha ha

Alex jonse may be on a whole religious trip, but goddammit ya gotta love him.

"bring me some food" - Rothschild guy

[bicycle]

I thought the Rothschild elite worked in the shadows and got other mugs to do their dirty work.:confused: I guess this global warming scam must be very important to them.

Redshield did come across very articulate and passionate and stood his ground well with the t-rex of political talk, but I guess he has had the best indoctrination money can buy, I dont trust him he's a rothschild FFS, it dont get more blatant than that:rolleyes:

[tinmenace]

I thought the Rothschild elite worked in the shadows and got other mugs to do their dirty work.:confused: I guess this global warming scam must be very important to them.

Redshield did come across very articulate and passionate and stood his ground well with the t-rex of political talk, but I guess he has had the best indoctrination money can buy, I dont trust him he's a rothschild FFS, it dont get more blatant than that:rolleyes:

Agreed. There is no way you're born into that family and not know about the agenda.

[cf24]

I dont think Jones does himself any favours sometimes, he cant control himself. I know its because he's so passionate, but he will alienate some people from his good work....

[lottie]

I just listened to it and cringed at AJ's manner- i can understand anyone being passionate and getting riled up but he went over board and came across as an angry man- fair enough he maybe- but why not tone it down and have an articulate conversation with the guy- instead of ranting and raving at him and provoking him? The guy did come across as genuine- but like someone said...maybe he's naive to it all or maybe he's a good actor- i just think AJ could have played the game better! There's better ways to get your point across than shouting and ranting in an aggressive manner! and for him to say after DR had left the air- 'i was nice to him so he didnt leave the air, but really this is what i think of him'....cue aggressive rant: ....!!!!!!
i get the impression AJ knows nothing about infinite love then?!!!! lol!!! :D

[peter19]

I just listened to it and cringed at AJ's manner- i can understand anyone being passionate and getting riled up but he went over board and came across as an angry man- fair enough he maybe- but why not tone it down and have an articulate conversation with the guy- instead of ranting and raving at him and provoking him?


i think its one of them were if you know the person is blatantly lying to your face it pisses you off and you would love to shove it back into there face. but i do agree abit like, although i was hopeing alex would blast him lol, but the best way to show him up would be to understand what hes saying and show it to be false. if alex and people were very clued up to the global warming swindle (if i was too), then there would be no room for "if it sounds ok it probbly is". and then if someone was telling you bullshit you would be able to see through it and also tell the other person that its BS.

that rothchild seemed to stand hes ground well and i bet it could of been viewed as a test for him. if you can keep repeating that your right to alex jones im sure you can to most people. the only way you cant is if your informed.

but it is intresting like how he comes on alexs show. do they normally do interviews, the rothchilds?. iv never really known them too, so maybe they see jones show as a good audience or something like if you can persuade alex youll persuade hes followers. :confused:

[tinmenace]

i get the impression AJ knows nothing about infinite love then?!!!! lol!!! :D

...And it is the only truth, innit?

I think it's his religion that's still got him strapped.

Just like Lapis said on the ascension thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883), the people living with the lower vibrations (instead of infinite love) will devour themselves. I think it's pretty clear that's what's happening with AJ. We have to transcend all the trappings of religion and dogma to truly be free.

[dell66759]

methinks that AJ is part of the conspiracy.

here is why:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Alex-Jones-summary.html

[tinmenace]

methinks that AJ is part of the conspiracy.

here is why:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Alex-Jones-summary.html

Ok wow! All very interesting, and some of it in line with my own research.

Yeah look, most Christians are Israeli apologists and therefor supportive of the Zionist agenda.

Not cool at all.

[cleft_asunder]

Rothschild said Jupiter and Saturn and Mars are closer to the sun! :eek:
ha ha :p

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Incredible! This guy is as slippery as a snake, and then some. Although he shrugs everything off like it never happened, personally I think AJ owned him. It is very difficult to own someone so slippery, so I think AJ did a top job.

[cleft_asunder]

I just listened to it and cringed at AJ's manner- i can understand anyone being passionate and getting riled up but he went over board and came across as an angry man- fair enough he maybe- but why not tone it down and have an articulate conversation with the guy- instead of ranting and raving at him and provoking him? The guy did come across as genuine- but like someone said...maybe he's naive to it all or maybe he's a good actor- i just think AJ could have played the game better! There's better ways to get your point across than shouting and ranting in an aggressive manner! and for him to say after DR had left the air- 'i was nice to him so he didnt leave the air, but really this is what i think of him'....cue aggressive rant: ....!!!!!!
i get the impression AJ knows nothing about infinite love then?!!!! lol!!! :D

Oh bollocks. Roth's style was the worst of all. He played it off like he's calm and civilized, but the fucker was put into a corner many times and it was only his slipperyness that got him out. He called AJ an oil company supporter, and said that he invests in oil stocks. Yeah, what a civilized and well mannered guy he is. AJ's anger pales in comparison to the tactic Roth used. Also, the only reason Roth APPEARED to do good was because he was so good at changing the subject and avoiding answering real questions. He laughed every time he was asked a real question. I think this guy knows exactly what's going on, and he knows exactly how to push the other guys buttons.

[cleft_asunder]

methinks that AJ is part of the conspiracy.

here is why:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Alex-Jones-summary.html

Yawwwwwn.

[straycat]

The only thing I wish AJ had replied was that even more scientist say that one mild volcano burp or fart releases more pollutants than man has from the start of industrial times till now ....
But I bet he already knows that.
Man could not destroy this planet even if he wanted to. It is a living organism, very dynamic. If the ones that call themselves "green" would wake up, they would see that they are the main tool in this scam.:confused:

I am glad rothy hung up knowing we are not schills and we are very aware of what they are trying to do.
It will be a very cold day in hell before Americans pay a global tax on anything.
I hope Texas has left a very bad taste in his mouth, and further hope he is aware there are 49 more.:cool:

[phoenix1]

I like Alex Jones . I wish he could wake up the the "religious shit " though. And bin the patriotism (but patriotism has "triggered him" ) Nothing more formiddable than a pissed off American Partiot who sees some off the plot, and realises hes been cheated.

As for religion I don't buy into itn thet cannot sell it me however cheaply they offer it , and I define it as such:

For a religion to be a religion, there must be a fundamental religious belief system with a central, defining tenet, that ALL subscribing to it share.

Thats my to pence worth . (yanno I love these two pence worths dont you lol)

One Day I hope Alex gets the wake up from dogma but hey !! Give him time , it may come to him as we see the more amd more "prophets" showing up lol.


All the Love whatever

Phoenix

[auron]

I just finished listening. Man AJ cracks me up when he fires off! :D

[mk72]

Yes his hillarious! But it's also kind of sad he was used and now he's given conspiracy theorists a bad name - he is high profile and he did get through to people who would not normally open their minds to conspiracies, and are now starting to think that we are all a bunch of idiots like him and losing intrest and as soon as Bush is out they would go back to normal thinking that they are all save now. He only focused on Bush and his cronies no other conspiracies and I think that was he purpose he served.

[phoenix1]

I just finished listening. Man AJ cracks me up when he fires off! :D


LOL Auron I aint seen it just yet i'll give it a look tomoz but its My Ma's birthday tomorrow. so a nice pressy for her tomorrow as we celebrate her 79th Soulday hehe.... Off to There.com dude... have ya seen the new place yet ?? we really are getting it together in ther now propper style dude. Comin ??

I Just did Alex.. he dont serve no agenda .. ther is only really conspircy FACT aint there lol.

We KNOW we KNOW and they NKOW we KNOW too lol .. Fuck the NWO!!!!

All the Love Auron.. cant wait till IAAIA is back lol.:):):D

[phoenix1]

I just finished listening. Man AJ cracks me up when he fires off! :D


LOL Auron I aint seen it just yet i'll give it a look tomoz but its My Ma's birthday tomorrow. so a nice pressy for her tomorrow as we celebrate her 79th Soulday hehe....(Thanks to whoever posted this BTW much appreciated )

Off to There.com dude... have ya seen the new place yet ?? we really are getting it together in ther now propper style dude. Comin ??

I Just did Alex.. he dont serve no agenda .. ther is only really conspircy FACT aint there lol.

We KNOW we KNOW and they NKOW we KNOW too lol .. Fuck the NWO!!!!

All the Love Auron.. cant wait till IAAIA is back lol.:):):D

[auron]

LOL Auron I aint seen it just yet i'll give it a look tomoz but its My Ma's birthday tomorrow. so a nice pressy for her tomorrow as we celebrate her 79th Soulday hehe....(Thanks to whoever posted this BTW much appreciated )

Off to There.com dude... have ya seen the new place yet ?? we really are getting it together in ther now propper style dude. Comin ??

I Just did Alex.. he dont serve no agenda .. ther is only really conspircy FACT aint there lol.

We KNOW we KNOW and they NKOW we KNOW too lol .. Fuck the NWO!!!!

All the Love Auron.. cant wait till IAAIA is back lol.:):):D
All the best for your mum mate!!! :)

I've been popping in every now and again, but i'm not going to be able to spend loads of time in there, until this PC get's upgraded. My stingy mate wont let me put it on his computer, because he says it slows it down. Which i know is bullshit. He thinks it's a place for "weirdos". Yes, another one that hasn't got it yet, and thinks i'm crazy. Tosser.

Alex Jones is fantastic! A great example of a guy with NO FEAR of the elite. Bollocks to those that think he has some kind of agenda. :D

Take it easy man, and have a good day with ya ma tomorrow.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1741/shroompotgw4.gif

Anthony :)

[bicycle]

Rothschild in relation to the global warming stuff: "The time for debate is over"

Hey redshield the time for debate has only just begun and I am not talking about this global warming scam either, so strap yourself in and hold on!

[phoenix1]

All the best for your mum mate!!! :)

I've been popping in every now and again, but i'm not going to be able to spend loads of time in there, until this PC get's upgraded. My stingy mate wont let me put it on his computer, because he says it slows it down. Which i know is bullshit. He thinks it's a place for "weirdos". Yes, another one that hasn't got it yet, and thinks i'm crazy. Tosser.

Alex Jones is fantastic! A great example of a guy with NO FEAR of the elite. Bollocks to those that think he has some kind of agenda. :D

Take it easy man, and have a good day with ya ma tomorrow.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1741/shroompotgw4.gif

Anthony :)

AHHH bless ya Ant, you are such a cool guy thanks so much for that sentiment dude. Bring your mate up to my house dude ... we can give him a good talking too lol..Wiereos are us lol... loud and proud lol.

If the world is sane then weired is for us dude lol...Alex Jones.. fuckin cool... doing what it says on the box.

More American pissed off patriots ...erm yes please.. you are all welcome in here lol.

TY Auron. )(Have a sweet day fella) :D:D:D With thay hookah I think theres every possibillity of that LMFHO lol.

[bicycle]

He should of asked Rothschild about fractional reserve banking:D

[supertzar]

In defense of Alex Jones, I think you have to scream and shout and beat people over the head to get their attention these days. Unless you are a tuly extraordinary personality, speaking in a polite manner isn't going to get any attention.

[soulja]

I want to add one thing: David Mayer de Rothschild is either the very definition of naive, or (most likely) he's a fantastic actor/liar. Either way, this guy is an impenetrable fortress against facts.

This whole thing is weird. I mean if you read the below bio you get the impression that he loves nature and helping the environment--I mean New Zealand for God's sake, that's a great place to live if you're a nature lover. And he's always laughing, shrugging off everything like supermain against bullets. Now to me it's obvious that he can't be naive, and he knows what it's all really about, yet he seems so genuine. My alternative theory is that when he was born, they already had plans for him NOT to turn him cold blooded, and rather they supported him and painted a false picture of the family and the secrets, so that one day he will be 'nature boy' at the forefront of the man-made global warming and taxation thing. In other words, he's being used and doesn't know it. An enemy that everyone likes is very powerful.

I don't know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Mayer_de_Rothschild

i think the answer is a rather simple one although hard to believe for some.
mind control. if you grow up in a family such as the Rothschilds (Ruth's child imo not Red shield) then being a multiple is standard. he wouldn't even be able to function properly in the illuminati's secret life without growing up under mk.

about the interview..
firstly i hardly even made it that far cos i found it a pain to get passed the intro, with its overdramatic music, voice, that whole sensation vibe mixed into it. almost like he runs an advert for the new star wars flick or something. however i kept going and sat through the whole thing. have to say intentionally or not, Alex fucked up imo, infact i believe if Rothschild, how excately i dunno, but if he didn't knew that this will happen he wouldn't even have attended the interview. in the end what's left is Rothschild's image got polished, he sold himself pretty well while Alex on the other hand was too aggressive and generally over the top even for his standards.
so he got outplayed, perhaps even used in a little Rothschild image campaign.

[celtic isis]

Makes me wonder how enlightened Alex Jones REALLY is, or if he's in denial. Me thinks there is a bit of denial going on. He still has to get through the religious trap.

So, not completely awake, but trying his darndest, it seems...

he's another michael moore. but at least he's not a freemason eh, or IS HE? :D

auron, remember cooper warned about alex jones, that the way in which he is seeking to wake people up is actually causing chaos and fear and rioting, and he will, in effect, bring in the police state he is apparently trying to prevent...

[phoenix1]

I dont think he's another Michael Moore.. presonally.. I do agree yeah like life aint all love and flowers ,, and sometimes you literally NEED to shake someone to the core,, however somone aughta shake Alex too.. when it comes to religious fervour.

I doubt Alex is a Freemason (Seeing the "Bait for Tinmenace there BTW too) Celtic Isis.;)

Anyway... press on eh. In a positive manner if possible.

I looose it totally at times and will soon state as much publicy in an appology tp PUMMA.

So People ..nice week, GF is here LOL ahem cough cough ,LOL

All the Love People

StarCruisingPhoenix:):)

[celtic isis]

I dont think he's another Michael Moore.. presonally.. I do agree yeah like life aint all love and flowers ,, and sometimes you literally NEED to shake someone to the core,, however somone aughta shake Alex too.. when it comes to religious fervour.

I doubt Alex is a Freemason (Seeing the "Bait for Tinmenace there BTW too) Celtic Isis.;)

Anyway... press on eh. In a positive manner if possible.

I looose it totally at times and will soon state as much publicy in an appology tp PUMMA.

So People ..nice week, GF is here LOL ahem cough cough ,LOL

All the Love People

StarCruisingPhoenix:):)

hehehehe bait what bait? :D

as you say trying to keep things in a more positive manner, i don't think i was ever nasty to anyone on here really anyway. :rolleyes:

[emtec]

All the best for your mum mate!!! :)

I've been popping in every now and again, but i'm not going to be able to spend loads of time in there, until this PC get's upgraded. My stingy mate wont let me put it on his computer, because he says it slows it down. Which i know is bullshit. He thinks it's a place for "weirdos". Yes, another one that hasn't got it yet, and thinks i'm crazy. Tosser.

Alex Jones is fantastic! A great example of a guy with NO FEAR of the elite. Bollocks to those that think he has some kind of agenda. :D

Take it easy man, and have a good day with ya ma tomorrow.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1741/shroompotgw4.gif

Anthony :)

Gosh if that how you talk about your mates i wouldn't want to be on your bad side.

[emtec]

i think the answer is a rather simple one although hard to believe for some.
mind control. if you grow up in a family such as the Rothschilds (Ruth's child imo not Red shield) then being a multiple is standard. he wouldn't even be able to function properly in the illuminati's secret life without growing up under mk.

about the interview..
firstly i hardly even made it that far cos i found it a pain to get passed the intro, with its overdramatic music, voice, that whole sensation vibe mixed into it. almost like he runs an advert for the new star wars flick or something. however i kept going and sat through the whole thing. have to say intentionally or not, Alex fucked up imo, infact i believe if Rothschild, how excately i dunno, but if he didn't knew that this will happen he wouldn't even have attended the interview. in the end what's left is Rothschild's image got polished, he sold himself pretty well while Alex on the other hand was too aggressive and generally over the top even for his standards.
so he got outplayed, perhaps even used in a little Rothschild image campaign.

I agree, IMO Alex sounded like a raving idiot. Its a pity when people do that it reminds me of when Icke went off a that Heritage officer in London. I really felt for that woman and thought Icke made a complete fool out of himself while acting all macho all knowing and hard.

[edelweiss pirate]

Emtec sounds like a troll, posts like a troll and probably smells like a troll...

therefore......'tis a troll...

I thank yow...

[celtic isis]

Emtec sounds like a troll, posts like a troll and probably smells like a troll...

therefore......'tis a troll...

I thank yow...

at least he or she isn't a christian bible basher troll :rolleyes: