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world elite
02-03-2009, 07:19 PM
Does anyone know where i can find a template letter so i can remove access from tvla visiting me.I have looked but can't find anything,or a least some pointers that i must include in my letter.
whizzer
02-03-2009, 07:44 PM
Here is something I found somewhere at some time or other and I saved it,
Put Personal Name & Address here
Put Date Here.
Sir Michael Lyons
The Chairman, By 1st Class Post
BBC, Recorded Delivery.
Broadcast centre,
201 Wood lane,
London
W12 7TP
Dear Sir Michael Lyons
Re: The Royal Charter of the BBC, & the Treason & Felony Act, 1848
Notice Before Action.
It has been brought to my attention that the Corporation has received and is now receiving substantial amounts of funding from the European Union, in breach of Charter Provisions, and that in consequence of this very suspect arrangement the BBC is now reduced to the function of providing both broadcasting & propaganda facilities to a form of alien authority that fails to acknowledge the Supreme Authority of the British Crown.
I must advise you that all such conduct serves to breach the provisions of the Treason Act, 1351 with the further provisions of the Treason & Felony Act, 1848.
In addition, I must advise that the Treason & Felony Act of 1848 provides that it is a Criminal Offence for Subjects of the Crown to give aid or comfort to Traitors, and that this offence is punishable by imprisonment for life.
I am concerned for my own position and I must ask you to cease and desist from all treacherous conduct & financial arrangements, without delay.
Unless I receive your written assurance that the Corporation will issue an immediate public apology for all Treason committed thus far, with your further guarantee that the Corporation will cease and desist from all and any conduct that fails to maintain the Supremacy of the British Crown, then I must give fair warning of my intention to discontinue the payment of all such moneys as are now being applied to the financial support of the BBC.
I look forward to receipt of your immediate response to this present letter and I give notice that payments in support of the BBC will be suspended, unless I receive a satisfactory response within 14 days of this present date.
Yours faithfully,
(Sign Here)
and then
Put Personal Name & Address here
Put Date Here.
Sir Michael Lyons
The Chairman, By 1st Class Post
BBC, Recorded Delivery.
Broadcast centre,
201 Wood Lane,
London
W12 7TP
Dear Sir Michael Lyons
Re: The Royal Charter of the BBC, & the Treason & Felony Act, 1848
Notice Before Action.
Your records will show that I have not received a satisfactory reply to my letter of the ???????, and I must now advise that I am no longer able to support the BBC.
As from today, all payments in respect of a television licence have been cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
(Sign Here)
Hope that helps.
world elite
02-03-2009, 08:07 PM
Here is something I found somewhere at some time or other and I saved it,
Put Personal Name & Address here
Put Date Here.
Sir Michael Lyons
The Chairman, By 1st Class Post
BBC, Recorded Delivery.
Broadcast centre,
201 Wood lane,
London
W12 7TP
Dear Sir Michael Lyons
Re: The Royal Charter of the BBC, & the Treason & Felony Act, 1848
Notice Before Action.
It has been brought to my attention that the Corporation has received and is now receiving substantial amounts of funding from the European Union, in breach of Charter Provisions, and that in consequence of this very suspect arrangement the BBC is now reduced to the function of providing both broadcasting & propaganda facilities to a form of alien authority that fails to acknowledge the Supreme Authority of the British Crown.
I must advise you that all such conduct serves to breach the provisions of the Treason Act, 1351 with the further provisions of the Treason & Felony Act, 1848.
In addition, I must advise that the Treason & Felony Act of 1848 provides that it is a Criminal Offence for Subjects of the Crown to give aid or comfort to Traitors, and that this offence is punishable by imprisonment for life.
I am concerned for my own position and I must ask you to cease and desist from all treacherous conduct & financial arrangements, without delay.
Unless I receive your written assurance that the Corporation will issue an immediate public apology for all Treason committed thus far, with your further guarantee that the Corporation will cease and desist from all and any conduct that fails to maintain the Supremacy of the British Crown, then I must give fair warning of my intention to discontinue the payment of all such moneys as are now being applied to the financial support of the BBC.
I look forward to receipt of your immediate response to this present letter and I give notice that payments in support of the BBC will be suspended, unless I receive a satisfactory response within 14 days of this present date.
Yours faithfully,
(Sign Here)
and then
Put Personal Name & Address here
Put Date Here.
Sir Michael Lyons
The Chairman, By 1st Class Post
BBC, Recorded Delivery.
Broadcast centre,
201 Wood Lane,
London
W12 7TP
Dear Sir Michael Lyons
Re: The Royal Charter of the BBC, & the Treason & Felony Act, 1848
Notice Before Action.
Your records will show that I have not received a satisfactory reply to my letter of the ???????, and I must now advise that I am no longer able to support the BBC.
As from today, all payments in respect of a television licence have been cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
(Sign Here)
Hope that helps.
Thankyou, no i sent them out already i'm trying to block the TVLA from visiting my house and to hopefully stop the letters they send out aswell.
the worm that turned
02-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Thankyou, no i sent them out already i'm trying to block the TVLA from visiting my house and to hopefully stop the letters they send out aswell.
If you have a gate to your driveway then make sure it is shut. Then put a sign up either by your front door or by your gate saying. "Private Property. Trespassers will be prosecuted."
That should keep the pests at bay. If they trespass threaten to call the Police and say there is a trespasser on your property that you have asked to leave and are feeling threatened by them.
world elite
02-03-2009, 08:15 PM
It may well come to that in future:)
spoonogsback
03-03-2009, 01:32 AM
Dear whizzer if you were to send this as is then as far as I can see a problem would result against your Honour!!!!! thereby funding an action against you as the maker of such a thing.
The corporation (the public.........there is only one, as they are all joined at the hip) would view this as a dishonour in commerce !!!!
the situation you appear to want to find a remedy for does exist but I dont think this is the way forward......do more study............it'll come to you if not there are others that will assist you in you education if you ask in a polite fashion......
peace
spoonogsback
world elite
03-03-2009, 02:43 AM
my address here
Head of Customer Relations, 3 March 2009
Customer Relations Department,
TV Licensing,
Bristol,
BS98 1TL
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to you to inform you i'm withdrawing implied right to access to the property (see above) which
includes,visiting officers,telephone calls,correspondent letters,etc,as all these methods are classed as harassment.
This will take immediate effect upon receiving this letter,you may,of course,reply to this letter.You will kindly acknowledge
in your letter you have noted/understood the contents of this letter.
I have now given you a written prior and legal warning that such visit will consitute trespass and harassment.Normally
there is an assumed right fo entry to the front door of a property.However this is denied to your employees,since any such
act will evidently constitute harassment since prior warning has been given.
As a citizen i have a perfectly legal right to live without harassment under European law will show you, can i now take this
opportunity to thankyou in advance for your co-operation in this matter.
yours
The Occupier
What do you think any good to sent then?
the worm that turned
03-03-2009, 10:18 AM
Dear whizzer if you were to send this as is then as far as I can see a problem would result against your Honour!!!!! thereby funding an action against you as the maker of such a thing.
The corporation (the public.........there is only one, as they are all joined at the hip) would view this as a dishonour in commerce !!!!
the situation you appear to want to find a remedy for does exist but I dont think this is the way forward......do more study............it'll come to you if not there are others that will assist you in you education if you ask in a polite fashion......
peace
spoonogsback
Hi Spoonogsback,
I would be interested to hear of a better way to approach this issue and as such I politely ask if you would care to indulge any suggestions you may have. PM me if you do not wish to post in public.
With regards to the letters (which I believe are taken from the www.tpuc.org website) would it be less dis-honourable if the sender were to request the BBC to make amendments to their charter, or if they said that they wish to cancel their licence, then apply for a new one but with the condition that the BBC rectify the issues mentioned in the letter above?
Many thanks,
Nik
world elite
03-03-2009, 03:17 PM
Can i assume my letter should be sent then?????
the worm that turned
03-03-2009, 05:12 PM
Can i assume my letter should be sent then?????
I'm waiting to hear what spoonogsback suggest both re your letters from the TPUC website and your latest letter re trespassing. Perhaps you should too.
mr_pixie
03-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Bump.
jimmi
04-03-2009, 01:21 PM
I haven;t had a telly for over four years now and used to get wound up by their threatening letters, I always used to put myself in the position of an old lady receiving one and empathised with how frightening it would be for them!
I e-mailed the head of the enforcement division (whose signature is on the letters) a couple of times, and explained how his actions were causing me "distress" and that if he did not stop then further action would be taken by me! I sent off to the small claims court for the forms required to bring him there to answer for his 'harrassment' and was all set to go. Then my girlfriend moved in with me and had the (tv licence) refund from her old address sent to my address so now we get letters in her name instead of mine and I haven't bothered to start the process again.
world elite
04-03-2009, 01:35 PM
Thanks for that Jimmi, i think i'm going to send the letter i wrote, recorded delivery and see if i get a reply back.And take if from there,while that is being processed i will keep a few copies and hand if to them if they turn up on the doorstep.
world elite
20-03-2009, 01:04 PM
Well i got a letter back from TVLA and i am now almost free of them they say they will do what i have asked them to do.That's leave me alone, stop visiting me,phoning me,and sending threatening letters.
Only they need my name to complete the process which i have told them they don't.:D
to see the letter i sent see post seven.
girlgye
20-03-2009, 08:23 PM
regarding your draft letter. It is illegal for them to enter your property in any event.
You craft a notice be polite and come from your heart, no swearing admonissions, if you can find case law to back up what you are demonstrating trying to say then quote the relevant statute.
Just stick to the facts of what you want them to stop doing and put it in numbered form. This is the first stage of a warning that will eventually go to Court. Letters mean absolutely nothing and you will be continually be ignored.
Notices especially Noterised ones cannot be ignored. Give them a time frame within which to respond.
Look up and read about notices and how to craft them. Plenty of info out there.
I really wouldn't worry about whether what you are saying or not is legal. If we do this we would never get off the ground doing anything. I know this my back is against the wall and I've got people saying or that's not right. Well it will just have to do I'm afraid.
I do hope I'm being polite here. I'm kinda rude when I'm riled.
whizzer
22-03-2009, 03:54 PM
Dear whizzer if you were to send this as is then as far as I can see a problem would result against your Honour!!!!! thereby funding an action against you as the maker of such a thing.
The corporation (the public.........there is only one, as they are all joined at the hip) would view this as a dishonour in commerce !!!!
the situation you appear to want to find a remedy for does exist but I dont think this is the way forward......do more study............it'll come to you if not there are others that will assist you in you education if you ask in a polite fashion......
peace
spoonogsback
Thanks spoonogsback but I'm not quite sure what you mean, in the letter in question it states basically that the BBC has breached the rules of its charter and is in fact receiving funding from a foreign body which...ahhhh! are you saying that..the letter should have quoted evidence of the breaches of charter ? mmm not sure could you at least give me a clue? I value your advice.:D
yozhik
22-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Who or What is "the Crown", as referred to in the letter?
There is plenty of anecdotal evidence and well documented opinion, that the Crown actually refers to the London City Corporation, or the City of London Corporation, or whatever else you wish to refer to it as.
This is where finance is based, including the bank of England.
It is where the Temple Bar and world bar franchise is based.
It is where all currency and statutes are founded.
It is where slavery was (and still is) a thriving industry, and where apprenticeships, masters and freemen are still terms and titles in use.
If "the Crown" is the separate soveriegn state known as the City of London, then I would propose that the BBC Charter, as opposed to being guilty of treason with respect to the Crown, is actually serving the Crown admirably. :rolleyes:
However, is "the Crown" some other entity?
To illustrate this confusion, here is a quote from the abstract of a thesis written by Janine Alyth Deaker Hayward, entitled "In Search of a Treaty Partner: Who, or What, is "The Crown";
First, there is a problem of consistency in the identity of the Crown. Analysis shows that a range of institutions and individuals involved in the negotiation of treaty issues in contemporary New Zealand society is identified as 'the Crown'. The application of theoretical analysis of the role of symbols in politics shows that the Crown symbol is frequently used and widely applied in treaty debate. This is, it is argued, because use of 'the Crown' brings legitimacy and authority to the actions and policies of those entities it identifies. The flexibility and popularity of 'the Crown' symbol creates a problem for Maori, however, because 'the Crown' is not consistently naming the same thing.
There is a second major and interrelating problem: the evolution of the Crown. In 1840, 'the Crown' title was used in relation to the Queen, and later was used to describe settler government. Most recently 'the Crown' has come to incorporate local and regional as well as central government.
Even Wikipedia :rolleyes: doesn't offer any clarity on the issue;
The Crown is a corporation sole that represents the legal embodiment of Executive Government throughout the Commonwealth realms. It evolved naturally as a separation of the literal crown and property of the nation-state from the person and personal property of the monarch.
Corporation Sole
In English Law, a corporation sole is a legal entity consisting of a single ('sole') incorporated office, occupied by a single ('sole') man or woman. Most corporations sole are church-related; for example the Archbishop of Canterbury but some political offices of the United Kingdom, Canada, and the United States are also corporations sole.
girlgye
22-03-2009, 06:03 PM
You can't rely on Wikipedia. It is written by experts on specific subjects or individuals with their own reasons for putting the section up in the first place. They do try to check the entries but they usually rely on people informing them with sound evidence as to why an entry is wrong.
I recently saw John Harris speak about them changing Blacks Law Dictionary 8 times and questioning why when it just 'words'.
yozhik
22-03-2009, 06:08 PM
You can't rely on Wikipedia. It is written by experts on specific subjects or individuals with their own reasons for putting the section up in the first place. They do try to check the entries but they usually rely on people informing them with sound evidence as to why an entry is wrong.
I recently saw John Harris speak about them changing Blacks Law Dictionary 8 times and questioning why when it just 'words'.
I don't rely on Wikipedia.
Hence the :rolleyes: when quoting it.
Its more used as the initial starting point ... like flour is the starting point to thousands of different tasting delicacies. It is a useful basis, but I certainly wouldn't open a restaurant with a menu consisting of flour, flour and flour.
However, the intended point remains valid (IMHO) ... who or what is "the Crown"?