why is godlessness promoted by nwo ?

[nirvana00]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?

[dlb2007]

Because they want to destroy God.

God made man in his own image and likeness, mankind now wants to redifine man and reform man in the image of mankind. Genetic Engerniering, Cloning etc... religion stands in the way of that, so they want to destroy it.

Christianity itself was used as a tool for a long long time and is still being used to an extent

The Protestant reformation was planned to weaken the Catholic faith, to take away power from the Vatican, to set the nations up as indipendent all this that is occuring now is because Christian nations/people have believed a "strong delusion" and listened to the protestant wolves instead of the Catholic shepherd. They have been voting for years for protestant leaders, men who really wanted the destruction of Christianity who really have planned this for hundreds of years.

[skunksmash]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?


well..... what better way to hide your evil ways than to hide them deeply within the religious camp & effect it from within...

remember these ppl are the BEST liars on the planet...... ;)






:)SK

[dlb2007]

exactly, what has protestantism brought to Christianity, it has slowly erroded away at it, taken things away from it... it has brought nothing but diversity, discord, annimosity, distrust... it has brought in heresy upon heresay, now it is concievable to proclaim yourself a Christian and have any number of different abominal beliefs in things like Abortion, Euthenisa, homosexual marriage.... there is no objective truth anymore its all reletive, protestantism is evil... or was used for evil purposes

At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear (33,000 protestant denominations) and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.

[armoured_amazon]

They destroy people's relationship with their real Creator because they intend to install themselves as the god entity before which society shall prostrate themselves in adulation.

[cruise4]

I just watched this which has some bearing. Starts a bit slow but gets more interesting...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=823417&posted=1#post823417

[dlb2007]

They destroy people's relationship with their real Creator because they intend to install themselves as the god entity before which society shall prostrate themselves in adulation.

I fully agree although I dont think they will get this far tho. i.e start manufacturing actuall human beings through cloning etc so that they become their God, I dont think JC will permit this to happen.

Its the lie of the Serpant, and still the temptation of the men who serve evil..... "you will be like God"

[dlb2007]

btw, if anyone who is protestant reads this, I wish not to be disrespectful of you, I believe most protestants are decent people with a sincere faith however, it needs to be said.

2 Peter 2

1.But there were false prophets among the (jewish) people, as there will be false teachers among you(Christians), who will secretly put forward wrong teachings for your destruction, even turning away from the Lord who gave himself for them(jehovah witnesses do not believe in the divinity of Christ but call themselves Christians); whose destruction will come quickly, and they themselves will be the cause of it. 2 And a great number will go with them in their evil ways, through whom the true way will have a bad name(who here has not heard it said from protestant teaching that the Catholic Church is the Beast, the whore of Babylon and the Pope the Anti Christ). 3And in their desire for profit they will come to you with words of deceit, like traders doing business in souls: whose punishment has been ready for a long time and their destruction is watching for them.


"But the major religions of today have to be changed because they are not compatible with the changes to come. The old religions will have to go. Especially Christianity. Once the Roman Catholic Church is brought down, the rest of Christianity will follow easily. Then a new religion can be accepted for use all over the world. It will incorporate something from all of the old ones to make it more easy for people to accept it, and feel at home in it. Most people won't be too concerned with religion. They will realize that they don't need it. "

Then followed one of the most surprising statements of the whole presentation: He said, "some of you probably think the churches won't stand for this," and he went on to say, "The churches will help us!"

But we also know that our Lord's Words will stand, and the gates of Hell will NOT prevail

http://www.sweetliberty.org/nobarbarians1.htm

For more info visit above link

[darketernal]

They don't. The natural flow of humanity is shifting towards this on its on.

Most low level members of the Illuminati are Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Luciferian (all four believe in a deity) in faith.

Any promotion of such an ideal as the lack of a deity is them adapting to this part of the social program breaking down, because the masses are begining to slowly wake up to the lie that there is a creator being that rules over the universe, which has been sold to the masses for countless generations.

[tusme]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?
DoubleSpeak...a very potent tool of TPTB.

They need religion and godlessness in equal doses...the ideal situation for creating "order out of chaos"...

[dlb2007]

He who controls the Past controls the future and he who controls the present controls the past.

We have to remember that tptb have labled the period durring which the Catholic Church was predominant as "the Dark Ages" They call the period after this as the Illumination, the Illuminati period, the period of the enlightened ones. Is it coincidence that soon after the reformation we have the story of the emrgance of the illuminati in Germany, the same place where the reformation began?

[scooby85]

good post, my view exactly, they dont want people to believe in god, so it doesnt make much sense to say the abrahamic religion was created by them. we all know the illuminati are satanic/evil so wheres the good?

Why else promote everything forbidden by religion? abortion, drinking, sex out of marriage, and general immodesty? all of these are the handy work of satan.

As some of u no im a muslim and i have to avoid these things as much as possible, and even if ur wernt a muslim but a good decent person u wud try and avoid these as well.

[element]

They have criticism towards organised religion and it's influences through history, which is a good thing to tell about.
But simple folk and the average Joe then dismisses anything spiritual.

Those in power don't want the people to think more spiritual, they want you to be a mass consumer of their ill system. If you have the right eyes, you will see no doubt they are promoting bodily perception of life almost anywhere.

[darketernal]

good post, my view exactly, they dont want people to believe in god, so it doesnt make much sense to say the abrahamic religion was created by them. we all know the illuminati are satanic/evil so wheres the good?

Why else promote everything forbidden by religion? abortion, drinking, sex out of marriage, and general immodesty? all of these are the handy work of satan.

As some of u no im a muslim and i have to avoid these things as much as possible, and even if ur wernt a muslim but a good decent person u wud try and avoid these as well.


And you see abortion, alcohol and sex outside of marriage to be the peak of immoralty? Surely you jest?

I would very strongly suggest that the original Torah was written by the Egyptian Pharaohs as a control system to expand on, for the masses, and to feed into the rituals and power of their more ancient beliefs, while they horded the real esoteric knowledge for those deemed worthy of initiation.

[element]

And you see abortion, alcohol and sex outside of marriage to be the peak of immoralty? Surely you jest?

I would very strongly suggest that the original Torah was written by the Egyptian Pharaohs as a control system to expand on, for the masses, and to feed into the rituals and power of their more ancient beliefs, while they horded the real esoteric knowledge for those deemed worthy of initiation.

Maybe the real esoteric knowledge have been mixed with the bad stuff.
If you read parts of the 'holy' books you will notice.
So obviously, anyone with the right amount of willpower, curiosity and intellect can still find knowledge. It is only harder to find because our civilisation is contaminated with all kind of horrible things which can lock us up and mislead us from our quest for truth.

[zero1]

DoubleSpeak...a very potent tool of TPTB.

They need religion and godlessness in equal doses...the ideal situation for creating "order out of chaos"...

Very good, well said. :cool:

[nirvana]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?


Because religeons unite people too much and the NWO wants everyone dis-united.


Peace:)

[cruise4]

Lack of a deity? I think more and more are starting to realise Intelligent Design is a certainty. And I can point the finger at Catholicism (I was brought up as one) as much as I can at protestants. Religion which I class as all the man made trappings around a central belief in God is the bit I have no time for. I also have to say if anything ties up everything that's going on better then the bible then I have yet to hear it. I'm not saying I believe that, but it has more and more going for it the more I find out. And this working conclusion has suprised me too TBH.

[kingmonkey]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?


Because they can't have ultimate control of a people that believes in something higher than them. They need to be in ultimate control. The immorality willl be part of the Massive version of problem-reaction-solution

problem - chaos,immorality, babylon is boiling over...

reaction - there's no morals!, no one cares!, we're doomed, no rules, i don't know who i am anymore, help!!!

solution - world government: no religion, one set of rules; theirs.

In my opinion religion used to be useful, but now it's losing its grip. Science is taking over...look at the way technology rules our lives now.

[scooby85]

a video for u peeps, listen to those words and tell me it aint gods words, i believe this surah in a couple of parts talks about the illuminati but not in those words obviously, enjoy :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sboAvcn4_MU&fmt=18

[scooby85]

a video for u peeps, listen to those words and tell me it aint gods words, i believe this surah in a couple of parts talks about the illuminati but not in those words obviously, enjoy :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sboAvcn4_MU&fmt=18

[alexc]

They don't. The natural flow of humanity is shifting towards this on its on.

Most low level members of the Illuminati are Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Luciferian (all four believe in a deity) in faith.

Any promotion of such an ideal as the lack of a deity is them adapting to this part of the social program breaking down, because the masses are begining to slowly wake up to the lie that there is a creator being that rules over the universe, which has been sold to the masses for countless generations.

Actually, the goal is to create a social breakdown so they can seize control more easily. Once in power they can impose whatever religion they find convenient, no matter how far it diverges from God's Word.

[mephibosheth]

what has protestantism brought to Christianity


Liberation.



it has slowly erroded away at it, taken things away from it...


If you mean eliminating popes, idolatry, and the utter dependence of the masses upon the priethood, well sure, I guess one might call that erosion...



it has brought in heresy upon heresay


No less heresay, no doubt, than has been proclaimed by the ROMAN-Catholic church.



now it is concievable to proclaim yourself a Christian and have any number of different abominal beliefs in things like Abortion, Euthenisa, homosexual marriage.... there is no objective truth anymore its all reletive, protestantism is evil...

What a joke. And where, pray-tell, does Jesus teach his followers to give confession to priests, to be dependent upon priests for interpretations of his words, to give wordly dominion to popes. or pray the rosary?

The 'protestant' label is insulting and archaic. The protest against the vile practices of Catholicism was over hundreds of years ago. Christians who sought to understand and commune with God on their own terms were liberated, hence the wide variety of schools that exist to this day. Each innovation is a liberation. A realization that in God there are no boundaries. We create our own limitations.


Actually, the goal is to create a social breakdown so they can seize control more easily. Once in power they can impose whatever religion they find convenient, no matter how far it diverges from God's Word.

Well, since 'they' wrote 'Gods word' in the first place, this point is rather moot, isn't it?

8)

[darketernal]

Actually, the goal is to create a social breakdown so they can seize control more easily. Once in power they can impose whatever religion they find convenient, no matter how far it diverges from God's Word.




Well, since 'they' wrote 'Gods word' in the first place, this point is rather moot, isn't it?

8)

mephibosheth, I could not have said it better myself.

[alexc]

Well, since 'they' wrote 'Gods word' in the first place, this point is rather moot, isn't it?
8)

I'm talking about the Bible, not the Koran.

[amethyst]

And you see abortion, alcohol and sex outside of marriage to be the peak of immoralty? Surely you jest?

I would very strongly suggest that the original Torah was written by the Egyptian Pharaohs as a control system to expand on, for the masses, and to feed into the rituals and power of their more ancient beliefs, while they horded the real esoteric knowledge for those deemed worthy of initiation.

So you've been told by the gurus.

Actually, there is truth in the scriptures that has been covered up under layer upon layer of lies, so as to bring utter confusion towards finding any sort of "God", or higher enlightenment to an individual.

Confusion has always worked very well for the elite.

[mephibosheth]

I'm talking about the Bible, not the Koran.


Is that the bible that was entirely composed in the Babylonian exile, the Septugaint, the Protestant bible, or some other?

Or perhaps the NT gosepls, whose ultimate origins are utterly unknown?

[spiraltrance]

Because they can't have ultimate control of a people that believes in something higher than them. They need to be in ultimate control. The immorality willl be part of the Massive version of problem-reaction-solution

summed up perfectly.

when the masses think there's no god or higher force people are more willing to accept false messiahs (government, media, ect.) as the supreme power in the universe.

[element]

summed up perfectly.

when the masses think there's no god or higher force people are more willing to accept false messiahs (government, media, ect.) as the supreme power in the universe.
I've been saying for ages on these forums that what they truly want, is a complete atheistic society.

[dlb2007]

Originally Posted by dlb2007
what has protestantism brought to Christianity

Liberation.

liberation from what, from Church authority to decide for themselves what is evil and what is not, the very first temption of adam and eve by the serpent. "and you will be like God, knowing good and evil" and look to the point where we are at now, man choosing abortion as Good and marriage as evil, debauchery as good and holiness as evil, this is the result of the temption of protestantism to reject Gods authority, his most holy Catholic Church and setup for themselves.



Quote:
Originally Posted by dlb2007
it has slowly erroded away at it, taken things away from it...

If you mean eliminating popes, idolatry, and the utter dependence of the masses upon the priethood, well sure, I guess one might call that erosion...

Authority, unity, community, direction, hope... protestantism is a wholly destructive faith.


Quote:
Originally Posted by dlb2007
it has brought in heresy upon heresay

No less heresay, no doubt, than has been proclaimed by the ROMAN-Catholic church.

How can a Church protected by the holy spirit and the very promise of Christ bring in heresy, impossible i tell you



Quote:
Originally Posted by dlb2007
now it is concievable to proclaim yourself a Christian and have any number of different abominal beliefs in things like Abortion, Euthenisa, homosexual marriage.... there is no objective truth anymore its all reletive, protestantism is evil...

What a joke. And where, pray-tell, does Jesus teach his followers to give confession to priests, to be dependent upon priests for interpretations of his words, to give wordly dominion to popes. or pray the rosary?

The 'protestant' label is insulting and archaic. The protest against the vile practices of Catholicism was over hundreds of years ago. Christians who sought to understand and commune with God on their own terms were liberated, hence the wide variety of schools that exist to this day. Each innovation is a liberation. A realization that in God there are no boundaries. We create our own limitations.

confession/reconcilliation/forgivness of sins

On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. 21 Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.

To preach and Teach in the Name of Christ.

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations

"He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me."

We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

The papacy;

You are rock and upon this rock i will build my church and the gates of hell shall not previal against it, To you i give the keys to the kingdom of heaven whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and what you loosen on earth shall be loosened in heaven. (also see issiah 22)

If anyone heres these words of mine they will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.

Feed my Sheep, Tend my Sheep, Feed my Sheep

When you have turned once more, strenghen your bretheren



The Rosary

1. The Our Father - is the prayer our lord prayed
2. The Hail Mary is entirely biblical.


Each innovation is a liberation. A realization that in God there are no boundaries. We create our own limitations

Hence the problem we face today, man seting himself up as divine authority on earth, instead of listening to Jesus Christ's most holy authority mankind has turned away, just as they turned away from God, just as they rejected Christ, is a servent greater than his master, if they persecuted Jesus they will persicute us, if they rejected the father, and if they rejected the son, should the church expect anything but rejection, riddicule and mockery, but we stand as a witness to the truth in these dark and troubled times.

[detroit313]

I've been saying for ages on these forums that what they truly want, is a complete atheistic society.

Thats the mission alright. A society completely based on materialism. All Spirituality must be destroyed. We want atheists.

So when David Icke goes all religion is evil that makes me go.........mmmmmmmmmmmmm............are you working for the elite Mr Icke?!?!

[1977]

Because this is, as Fifth Dimension said, "the dawning of the Age of Aquarius."

"Godlessness" is promoted for the same reason that every vestige of the old Pagan religion was destroyed by Christianity at the beginning of the Piscean Age.

The early Christians were also condemned as "Atheists" by pious Pagans, remember.

[alexc]

Is that the bible that was entirely composed in the Babylonian exile, the Septugaint, the Protestant bible, or some other?

Or perhaps the NT gosepls, whose ultimate origins are utterly unknown?

The King James version works just fine for me, thank you.

Besides, all you just listed were different translations of the same text.

[scooby85]

Thats the mission alright. A society completely based on materialism. All Spirituality must be destroyed. We want atheists.

So when David Icke goes all religion is evil that makes me go.........mmmmmmmmmmmmm............are you working for the elite Mr Icke?!?!

i couldnt have said that better myself, i been saying that for ages... theres more to mr icke than meets the eye.

its like 'yeh il tell them things they already know, throw in a couple of little secrets and il have those fellas hook line and sinker. then move in for the kill (no god theory).'

[element]

i couldnt have said that better myself, i been saying that for ages... theres more to mr icke than meets the eye.

its like 'yeh il tell them things they already know, throw in a couple of little secrets and il have those fellas hook line and sinker. then move in for the kill (no god theory).'
Icke doesn't say he does not believe in god, he's just not using the ''personified king on a throne'' image of god.

[amethyst]

Icke doesn't say he does not believe in god, he's just not using the ''personified king on a throne'' image of god.

Do you know where he said that?

[element]

Do you know where he said that?
He said somewhere 'the glorious whole we call god' or something like that.
I remember that from TBS. Likely in one of the last few chapters..

[marpat]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?

That is easy. Such behaviour would detach you from your own inner being. A person who does not have any of their own inner sense and motivation can then be told what to do from external sources.

[oiram]

Icke doesn't say he does not believe in god, he's just not using the ''personified king on a throne'' image of god.
People do mix up words!

I would prefer to place the God word into the category "Spirit, Truth, Honesty, Love & Logic"

So to have & practice these Human qualities; what the heck I would need a money sucking corrupt Religion Organization for.

I personally try my hardest to practice all these qualities for my self & toward others & I absolutely don't give a shit about any Religion or there Organizations.
So what am I a none believer with human qualities?

I agree 100% with David Icke:
Yes Religious Organizations are evil absolutely because they are brainwashing the population to the max & the result in most cases they are tools & turn into illogical sheep & slaves for the system.

There are some which don't fall for it but most do.

Please People give me your classification I like to hear it Honestly!

You could burn all your books & you will never be able to take "Spirit, Truth, Honesty, Love & Logic" away from me!
"Never because this is me"

What is it with these people I don't ever understand?
If I don't understand means it's illogical from a Human standpoint.

And having these qualities & absolutely no Religion interest would not ever make me accept the NWO because they are criminals toward Human spirit & freedom.

So when I read some of the answers on this thread they make absolutely no sense at all.


Why is godlessness promoted by nwo ? ...... How could anyone be godless if people don't even know what God is; or stands for?

[scatlond]

I read someting today that said Christianity was a religion based on 2 pieces of wood nailed together.

Just shows what power religion has, when 2 pieces of wood nailed together can cause such harm through the ages. No room in the NWO for power like that.

[marpat]

I read someting today that said Christianity was a religion based on 2 pieces of wood nailed together.

Just shows what power religion has, when 2 pieces of wood nailed together can cause such harm through the ages. No room in the NWO for power like that.

But christianity is a dying religion. If it was part of the NWO plan they dont you think it would be right at the front of everything?

I think christianity was used as a tool for control when people were illiterate and could not read the book for themselves. In those days people told them what they had to do. Such control is not possible now because people can often read what it says and make a decision on that.

Religion has power because it is an expression of the inner person. It is an inner experience. State religions on the other hand are nothing but political tools.

Who said the pieces of wood were nailed together? maybe they were connected with joints. The nail has some esoteric significane as well, being the Hewbrew letter Vau, and numerical value of 6. In Kabbalah the letter Vau is the letter of the son in YHVH.

[vallick]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?

The Nwo worships satan and the fallen angels and this is why they promote godlessness and immorality. i read a story the other day i guess in germany there trying to say molesting your child is a good thing and is healthy for your child. sick stuff like this comes from the followers of aleister crowley or the Nwo.

Well lets start with the fallen angels they were thrown out of heaven and mankind is now bound to darkness so mankind can be more like God learning the difference between Good and evil.

Satan and the other fallen angels started to run a muck on earth so the lord sent enoch to make them repent or else. satan and the fallen angels did not repent Now enoch binds them into another dimension kinda like the movie the gate and the gate 2 something like this happend im not 100 percent sure

Now satan and the fallen angels are stuck in some astral prison

Jesus was just a man that opened his third eye jesus soon put an end to death and decay and is now the chosen one

Jesus then is confronted by satan or the tempest Jesus now over comes the tempest and is now at the thrown in Gods house and is above all the angels in heaven making mankind the most high. All of mankind's birth right is to become christ like or to receive your spiritual body putting an end to death and decay when this happens we enter the New earth and New heaven
This is what the illuminati is trying to prevent keeping mankind bound to darkness

Satan rules earth and this is why today leaders and todays churches suck satans cock

Satans Goal is to make sure mankind stays bound to darkness and to form the satanic New earth and new heaven. Aleister crowley is a man that opens his third eye and its very similar to the movie the gate

for a satanic the highest goal is to be confronted by satan or to have communion with the evil one or what bill kicks says sucking satan cock arrhaarrr

Satan then tells aleister crowley to write the book of the law and aleister crowley now must set up the satanic version of the new earth and new heaven aka the end of zeigieitzeist its that utopian society were mankind merges with technology now mankind is 4 eva bound to darkness in the satanic new earth and new heaven

the book of the law is a funny book from the evil one and you can tell its from the evil one

now i guess world war 2 happens and Crowley is the ruler of the world and appoints hitler to germany and seems to have america russia and england in his pocket. Winston churchill kinda looks like aleister crowley same with jimmy page maybee there related to crowley hmmmm

see mankind has been dumbed down and almost everyone alive is like what do you mean satan doesn't exists What are UFO did aliens create mankind
Mankind has been dumbed down and we forget that we belong to the highest of the high and that human kind is at the top of the food chain even if mankind is bound to darkness

The manhattan project occurs and the german satanic occult nazis form nasa they test the nuke and something about an antichrist girl child called a golem survivies the nuke or somthin crazy stuff thats from enigma tv

1945 ww2 ends and 2 years later crowley dies

i think ron hubbard then has contact with satan and is declared the new dejjal the beast he dies and then i guess tim leary becomes the dejjal

Watch the show they sold their souls for rocknroll just google it and skip to the aleister crowley tim leary parts

The followers of Aleister crowley now rule Hollywood and rocknroll. almost all of rocknroll worships aleister crowley and satan even if satan is a fallen angels and hates all humans

These bands think its cool to follow aleister crowley only trash would think this
ac dc, led zepplin, rollningstones, sting its a very very long list

Now we enter 911 and the iraq war God sends us the last prophet of mankind the two witnesses this prophet returns to the source of God and now satan has a very short time left on earth. i guess soon the dollar will be worthless and we enter into the Amero and if this happens all of america should kill all the rich familys and linch them bahaha now we have all this marshall law that alex jones is always talking about

The illuminati are trying to set up aleister crowleys or satans new earth and New heaven were mankind can only achieve God hood by merging with technology Boooooo aka binding mankind to darkness 4 everr arrrr

The illuminati do the will of satan and the fallen angels and there goal is keep mankind bound to darkness

Soon mankind will start to fill there bodies with Gods light by opening there third eyes slowly putting an end to death and decay Now we will soon enter the true New earth and New heaven when mankind puts an end to death and decay Mankind is now christ like and our earth puts on the incorruptible the illuminati is trying to prevent this from happening and there goal is to keep mankind bound to darkness

satan rules earth and this is why todays churches take away spirituality and this is why false prophets and there false teaching rule todays churches
it doesnt matter satan has a short time left and soon Gods anointed will put on the incorruptible

have fun reading my post i have to go correct my English students essays so have fun understanding what i wrote arrrhaarrr

[1977]

the illuminati public school system is working well i see

[felakuti]

There is no ''satan''. The Bible ''God'' is a Jewish rehash/summary of the TWO entities, Enki and Enlil, of the Sumerian Creation Texts, dated hundreds of years before Genesis was written.

Enki was the 'creator' of man (using genetic engineering which combined the Annunaki (alien) DNA essence with that of earth hominids to produce homo sapiens.)

Enki, a master scientist, who created Man with his sister Ninhursag, did so with the approval of the Annunaki council. The Annunaki, described as 'those who from the heavens came' are a race of advanced entities who birthed man because of a need to replace with a newly formed race, the Annunaki mine workers, digging for GOLD around the earth, this metal apparently holding great mystical or life lengthening qualities when processed and ingested. (This has current scientific backing). The gold was transported back to their planet Nibiru. (Some believe Nibiru is a small planet/sun located at the center of a hollow earth, but the more common belief is that it is thousands of miles away from our earth, and called Planet X)

Enki ruled the mines in Southern Africa while Enlil ruled the mines in the Middle East (Read Genesis where much gold is reported close to Eden).

Enki apparently had created a succession of humanoid beings and sent over to the middle east at Enlil's request for more slave labor. These first humanoids lacked reproductive capacity and the ability to learn beyond a level equal to primates. These were the worker beings Enki normally sent to Enlil in the middle east from South Africa.

Then came a time when Enlil requested more labor, and then Enki conveyed to the middle east the new prototype beings he had created with his sister Ninhursag. These beings could procreate, and had a level of intelligence above all other living beings apart from the Annunaki.

This batch were sent to Enlil without Enlil being told of their 'new, improved' status.

Enlil placed the new workers in a place known in the Sumerian Texts as 'EDIN'.

Sooner or later Enlil discovered their status as intelligent beings - they disobeyed him for instance - and was enraged. He drove them out of EDIN and cursed them.

Enki however was at hand at the gates of EDIN to equip them with clothes and other necessities...

Now the bible confusion comes when Enlil is referred to as 'God', and the being who gave 'Adam' clothes and basic essentials after his banishment from 'Eden' is also referred to as 'God'. But they were in fact TWO different entities.

In other parts of the bible, the actions of either one or the other are often represented as the actions of one entity, 'God', and this is what accounts for many of the 'contradictions' we find in the bible.

Where the bible does not refer to Enki as 'God', it labels him as ''satan''.

The bible is basically an Enlilian document released by Enlilian sympathisers, and told from the perspective of Enlil, with Enki's actions either incorporated into those of 'God', or dismissed as works of ''Satan''.

Thus the ''serpent'' is a symbol of the DNA string, that power of life and intelligence bequeathed in Man by Enki, and which so annoyed Enlil, a dictator, and a vicious entity who is presented as ''God'' in the bible, but whose actions (such as the various massacres he ordered in the OT) show him up to be a vindictive, callous loser.

Now, neither Enki nor Enlil, are 'God'. These are physical beings, albeit advanced and powerful, and in fact subordinate to their own ruler known as Anu, king of the Annunaki. They had to get Anu's permission from their planet to commence the creation of a worker being, man on earth.

Anu himself is not 'God', just a physical entity albeit exceedingly powerful by human standards. The Annunaki are several thousand years more advanced than humans in all aspects of technology.

Most Enkian religions and faiths, such as African religion, would tell you at the drop of a hat that man was created by beings who came from the sky..

But they are only ''gods'' in comparison to us hugely backward earthlings. They are our 'creators' in that they created successfully the SHELL or COAT in which SOULS can exist fruitfully on the physical plane, earth.

SOULS are what come from GOD, not bodies.

God is a spirit and the source of life. The physical objects we see are merely the THOUGHTS of GOD manifesting themselves into physical reality. Physical creation of beings by more advanced physical beings is the process by which this occurs.

We are aspects of God and are thus subject to this universal imagination.

This is why researchers have concluded that all physicality is ILLUSION. Atoms when examined with powerful microscopes are seen to be EMPTY SPACE, and they are supposed to be the ''building blocks of the physical universe''. But examine an atom, and there's NOTHING in it.

[felakuti]

When we know the real deal regarding Enki and Enlil, we can begin to make greater sense of the seeming contradiction in the Elite's actions with regard to religion/christianity etc etc.

It is possible that at one time prior, Enlilian influences held sway, barracking human thought, punishing disobedience to commands, in line with Enlil's arbitary, top-down approach to mankind, and pushed on earth by factions sympathetic to Enlil, such as christianity, islam, and judaism.

It is possible that an Enkian uprising or fightback is in place whereby the old Enlilian restrictions are being dismantled before our very eyes as Enkian factions seek to take back his creation. One way they may be planning this is by putting those three powerful Enlilian organisations in a position of conflict so they can destroy each other, as Enkian ascendancy, heralded by a new age of knowledge takes their place.

Enkian religions like Buddhism are seen as the new lights, in line with the rise and rise of the East, and China...whose increasing political, economic, and industrial ties with that other (long suppressed) bastion of Enkian thought, Africa, is causing widespread alarm in Enlilian circles.

[enga]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?

Hubby and I were discussing this the other day. It's because like in communist Russia religion was banned and it was to stop large groups of social cohesion....anything that brings people together is banned and anything that can be seen as bigger or better than the state.

[felakuti]

xx

[vallick]

There is no ''satan''. The Bible ''God'' is a Jewish rehash/summary of the TWO entities, Enki and Enlil, of the Sumerian Creation Texts, dated hundreds of years before Genesis was written.

Enki was the 'creator' of man (using genetic engineering which combined the Annunaki (alien) DNA essence with that of earth hominids to produce homo sapiens.)

Enki, a master scientist, who created Man with his sister Ninhursag, did so with the approval of the Annunaki council. The Annunaki, described as 'those who from the heavens came' are a race of advanced entities who birthed man because of a need to replace with a newly formed race, the Annunaki mine workers, digging for GOLD around the earth, this metal apparently holding great mystical or life lengthening qualities when processed and ingested. (This has current scientific backing). The gold was transported back to their planet Nibiru. (Some believe Nibiru is a small planet/sun located at the center of a hollow earth, but the more common belief is that it is thousands of miles away from our earth, and called Planet X)

Enki ruled the mines in Southern Africa while Enlil ruled the mines in the Middle East (Read Genesis where much gold is reported close to Eden).

Enki apparently had created a succession of humanoid beings and sent over to the middle east at Enlil's request for more slave labor. These first humanoids lacked reproductive capacity and the ability to learn beyond a level equal to primates. These were the worker beings Enki normally sent to Enlil in the middle east from South Africa.

Then came a time when Enlil requested more labor, and then Enki conveyed to the middle east the new prototype beings he had created with his sister Ninhursag. These beings could procreate, and had a level of intelligence above all other living beings apart from the Annunaki.

This batch were sent to Enlil without Enlil being told of their 'new, improved' status.

Enlil placed the new workers in a place known in the Sumerian Texts as 'EDIN'.

Sooner or later Enlil discovered their status as intelligent beings - they disobeyed him for instance - and was enraged. He drove them out of EDIN and cursed them.

Enki however was at hand at the gates of EDIN to equip them with clothes and other necessities...

Now the bible confusion comes when Enlil is referred to as 'God', and the being who gave 'Adam' clothes and basic essentials after his banishment from 'Eden' is also referred to as 'God'. But they were in fact TWO different entities.

In other parts of the bible, the actions of either one or the other are often represented as the actions of one entity, 'God', and this is what accounts for many of the 'contradictions' we find in the bible.

Where the bible does not refer to Enki as 'God', it labels him as ''satan''.

The bible is basically an Enlilian document released by Enlilian sympathisers, and told from the perspective of Enlil, with Enki's actions either incorporated into those of 'God', or dismissed as works of ''Satan''.

Thus the ''serpent'' is a symbol of the DNA string, that power of life and intelligence bequeathed in Man by Enki, and which so annoyed Enlil, a dictator, and a vicious entity who is presented as ''God'' in the bible, but whose actions (such as the various massacres he ordered in the OT) show him up to be a vindictive, callous loser.

Now, neither Enki nor Enlil, are 'God'. These are physical beings, albeit advanced and powerful, and in fact subordinate to their own ruler known as Anu, king of the Annunaki. They had to get Anu's permission from their planet to commence the creation of a worker being, man on earth.

Anu himself is not 'God', just a physical entity albeit exceedingly powerful by human standards. The Annunaki are several thousand years more advanced than humans in all aspects of technology.

Most Enkian religions and faiths, such as African religion, would tell you at the drop of a hat that man was created by beings who came from the sky..

But they are only ''gods'' in comparison to us hugely backward earthlings. They are our 'creators' in that they created successfully the SHELL or COAT in which SOULS can exist fruitfully on the physical plane, earth.

SOULS are what come from GOD, not bodies.

God is a spirit and the source of life. The physical objects we see are merely the THOUGHTS of GOD manifesting themselves into physical reality. Physical creation of beings by more advanced physical beings is the process by which this occurs.

We are aspects of God and are thus subject to this universal imagination.

This is why researchers have concluded that all physicality is ILLUSION. Atoms when examined with powerful microscopes are seen to be EMPTY SPACE, and they are supposed to be the ''building blocks of the physical universe''. But examine an atom, and there's NOTHING in it.

eniki is a fallen angel you assclown what have you been reading??? lets diss mankind and praise the lowest of the low the fallen angels woo woo jesus didnt over come the tempest and open the seven seals making mankind above all the angels because eniki wouldnt allow this yaarrrrr

sorry for calling you an as clown but your acting like the fallen angels are your Gods when there below mankind thank you for posting that and sharing your view of things oh an sorry for calling you an ass clown

you do understand that the annuaki are below mankind right???

Annunaki are several thousand years more advanced than humans in all aspects of technology.

Mankind is above the annunaki and soon mankind will receive there spiritual bodies making mankind Gods compared to the annunaki

Mankind has the ability to comprhend the seven seals and to put on the incorrutpible. Mankind has accesses to the incorruptible end of the universe
and the fallen angels dont thus mankind is far beyond the fallen durrr


God is the light the light in your third eye and you are the light the goal is to return to the source of God

this is why mankind is above the annunaki and Mankind are Gods highiest of the high while the annunaki pretend to be so called Gods because of there technology

AHAHA annunaki dont have accesses to the new earth and New heaven

This would be the main reason why there returning to earth

bahahaha sucks for them the lowest of the low

[rr_x]

The elite have always considered themselves as incarnate gods. The ultimate goal of todays 'godless' tool - evolutionary theory - is to evolve to godhead through nature, a process to be sped up by eugenics.

[element]

The elite have always considered themselves as incarnate gods. The ultimate goal of todays 'godless' tool - evolutionary theory - is to evolve to godhead through nature, a process to be sped up by eugenics.
But evolution only describes how life changes over time. The problem is that it is promoted by materialists.
Materialism is the problem, not evolution theory.

[rr_x]

But evolution only describes how life changes over time. The problem is that it is promoted by materialists.
Materialism is the problem, not evolution theory.

Evolution is an antiquated theory. According to Blavatsky, the old hindus were talking about evolution through the mysteries of Vishnu's incarnations:

From
Matsya the fish
to
Kurma the tortoise (reptile)
to
Varaha the boar (mammal)
to
Narasimha half-man, half animal
to
Vamana the dwarf
etc.

Later we get Krishna and Buddha clearly ideas regarding evolving from lower forms to high types. Hinduism will probably be called spiritual before it is called materialistic. Yet it was this mode of thinking, far predating social Darwinism and eugenic theory, that gave rise to (or 'justified') the caste system and subsequent enslavement of perceived lesser types. In fact most race theory has arised from a spiritual viewpoint culminating in metagenetics.

Materialism is not the problem, it is not even a bad thing. The problem lies in the lack of balance between materialism and spirituality.

[element]

Materialism is not the problem, it is not even a bad thing. The problem lies in the lack of balance between materialism and spirituality.
And how would you balance those? Materialism is not the same as living in a material world and using matter.
Materialism is a anti-spiritual ideology.

And yes, some have used evolution to promote racism, but that doesn't make evolution itself evil, does it?

[rr_x]

And how would you balance those? Materialism is not the same as living in a material world and using matter.
Materialism is a anti-spiritual ideology.

And yes, some have used evolution to promote racism, but that doesn't make evolution itself evil, does it?

At no point did I mention evolution was a problem.

The question asked about 'godlessness' - most would generally say the biggest proponent of godlessness was evolution. My point was to show that not to be the case especially if looking a few moves ahead. Do the nwo really promote godlessness with their fascination of the occult?

[element]

My point was to show that not to be the case especially if looking a few moves ahead. Do the nwo really promote godlessness with their fascination of the occult?
Shame really. If we look at what they promote, it's nihilism and materialism. They want you to think materialistic, so you keep their system alive. Ofcourse, anyone can be freed from such thinking, but that is up to the individual.

[rr_x]

Shame really. If we look at what they promote, it's nihilism and materialism. They want you to think materialistic, so you keep their system alive. Ofcourse, anyone can be freed from such thinking, but that is up to the individual.

With the occultism they may also want you to think spiritually. The whole concept of the trinity was that the sum of two opposites equated to god - the hidden third force of dualism symbolised by a triangle. We can thus say godhead was a balance between the two - a neutral point - and a bias in either direction is not god.

[element]

With the occultism they may also want you to think spiritually. The whole concept of the trinity was that the sum of two opposites equated to god - the hidden third force of dualism symbolised by a triangle. We can thus say godhead was a balance between the two - a neutral point - and a bias in either direction is not god.
Know society by its fruits. It is not spiritual...at all.
They also lose control over you if you think spiritual.
If you think spiritual you don't surrender to their masters or gods, if you do it's just organised religion. Imo.

[gebello]

They do more than promote nihilism, they brainwash our kids into it.

The technique is simple; it is called liberalism and it uses relativism to achieve the brainwash.

Liberalism makes you accept all points of view and then relativism makes you consider all those values as equals.

This has the effect of "neutralizing" all values. Then you are without values.
This is brainwashing.

Then the State puts its own values as the "people's values" and can change them when ever they dont serve their goals.
That is "conditionning".

These techniques are right from the old Soviet Union's KGB. They have been implemented in the programs developped by the UNESCO's OCDE and distributed to all member nations to be part of the school programs.

[oiram]

Why is godlessness promoted by NWO ?

Because there NWO only can work if people either don't believe in nothing; or only believe & trust in them & there communistic. 1 + 1 = 2

They can not get there system & agenda to work if people believe in to many different things.

So my opinion just keep believing in whatever you like; as long you don't believe in there NWO system, one World Bank & don't kill each other because you have different believes!

Just don't ever believe in Politicians & yes in clouding puppet Obama & there fully controlled & manipulated MSM . http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/arrowL1.gif Then all will be fine.

[element]

They do more than promote nihilism, they brainwash our kids into it.

The technique is simple; it is called liberalism and it uses relativism to achieve the brainwash.

Liberalism makes you accept all points of view and then relativism makes you consider all those values as equals.

This has the effect of "neutralizing" all values. Then you are without values.
This is brainwashing.

Then the State puts its own values as the "people's values" and can change them when ever they dont serve their goals.
That is "conditionning".

These techniques are right from the old Soviet Union's KGB. They have been implemented in the programs developped by the UNESCO's OCDE and distributed to all member nations to be part of the school programs.

You can accept all points of view, but it doesn't mean you agree with all of them.
Liberalism is not the problem, it has served its useful part to humanity.

[1977]

Evolution is an antiquated theory. According to Blavatsky, the old hindus were talking about evolution through the mysteries of Vishnu's incarnations:
The Poemandres (http://sacred-texts.com/gno/th2/th202.htm) of Hermes Trismegistus also seems to support an evolutionary viewpoint. Nature, copying the forms if the eternal Platonic reality, evolves vegetable and animal life; whereupon the higher beings (i.e., us) see our own forms copied in animal bodies and, falling in love with Nature, come to inhabit them with Reason (i.e., consciousness). This seems to be the meaning behind the myth of Narcissus.
He in his turn beholding the form like to himself, existing in her, in her Water, loved it and willed to live in it; and with the will came act, 1 and [so] he vivified the form devoid of reason.

And Nature took the object of her love and wound herself completely round him, and they were intermingled, for they were lovers.

15. And this is why beyond all creatures on the earth man is twofold; mortal because of body, but because of the essential Man immortal.

Though deathless and possessed of sway o’er all, yet doth he suffer as a mortal doth, subject to Fate.

Of course, it could all be a bunch of nonsense for all I know.

[stfd]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?

Actually the way i perceive this is like so:

This great nwo-behemoth were facing, has learned and managed to use various tools with great skill.
That is known by most; however, probably two of the greatest tools they/him (or whatever) are/is skilfully using are: making us , the people fight ,kill and weaken eachother aka divide and conquer. The other, using 'religion' to: twist fundamental principles at the core in order to again divide us and weaken eachother in the process.

In my heart and mind i believe that AT THE TOP , where the 'global infrastructure' is, it's all about religion.
What 'their' intention is to replace 'the old world order' with ' the new world order' remember ?
That implies (among other things) that the old religious ways would be replaced with new ones.

It is very very religious, no matter how much some on here and everywhere deny it. It has always been.

[verndewd]

without god you dont have true self because god is in you. once that decision is implanted the atomic functions of the body serve to act as a blinder in every regard. the cessation of infinite potential under the insructions of those who know full well what the effects will bring becomes a very handy tool to enslave the masses by. Just as idol worship was in ancient tmes.

One of mankinds greatest attributes is the subatomic phenomenon that he is. watch what the bleep do we know and the divine matrix by gregg braden. it will become clear in a few hours , that science has uncovered the phenomenon that we are, and when a ruling body removes the recognition of source, those capabilities are limited and in time simply vanish , leaving a barely functional state of being that is easy to control.

[kidsarocker]

summed up perfectly.

when the masses think there's no god or higher force people are more willing to accept false messiahs (government, media, ect.) as the supreme power in the universe.

Such as the Anti-Christ

A Person who believes in nothing will fall for anything

[kidsarocker]

I'm talking about the Bible, not the Koran.

What are you on about? The bible has been diluted and God bought the Qur'an after the Biblke was infiltrated, the Qur'an has not been diluted because muslims have to memorise the Qur'an so that it will never be changed or diluted.

[kidsarocker]

i couldnt have said that better myself, i been saying that for ages... theres more to mr icke than meets the eye.

its like 'yeh il tell them things they already know, throw in a couple of little secrets and il have those fellas hook line and sinker. then move in for the kill (no god theory).'

Yep that's how it works, I mean surely if Mr Icke was telling the truth and nothing but the whole truth then surely this guy would have been bumbed off years ago to stop awakening people. I mean if they can get rid of Princess Diana then surely this man would be a piece of cake.

I do owe Mr Icke some gratitude for taking me down the rabbit hole but since going further through research I seem to end up at the same place (we are all Gods/the Anti-Christ/Satan - this made me dubious about some of Mr Ickes claims on religion

You look at the real people who spread the truth, they are always censored (eg Youtube)

I also think Alex Jones works for them as well.

[danceswithbunnies]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?

Are you sure about that?
The godless are what? Seven percvent pof the population in the US..how many in Britain?

It appears to me that the NWO is promoting Christianity.
It is one of the main tools the NWO is using to bring in godlessness.

This particular website is christian, but it has alot of good information
linking American Christianity to the NWO.

http://www.antipasministries.com/articles.htm

see in particular

AMERICAN NEW WORLD ORDER SYSTEM
Apostasy in the church

Death squads

TURNING AMERICA INTO A POLICE STATE

Of course the writers of Antipas claim that this brand of Imperial Christianity is not "real christianity"
whereas my contention is that it is really the only form of christianity.

[asha loka]

The NWO does both/and.

It never does either/or. (Well - hardly ever.)

[kidsarocker]

They don't. The natural flow of humanity is shifting towards this on its on.

Most low level members of the Illuminati are Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Luciferian (all four believe in a deity) in faith.

Any promotion of such an ideal as the lack of a deity is them adapting to this part of the social program breaking down, because the masses are begining to slowly wake up to the lie that there is a creator being that rules over the universe, which has been sold to the masses for countless generations.

have you ever considered that this social/society breakdown is one of their plans for you to believe that there is no God

[michael christopher]

Why do religionists think the only two options are religion or atheism?

It's a pretty stupid presumption, if you ask me.

[michael christopher]

Is that the bible that was entirely composed in the Babylonian exile, the Septugaint, the Protestant bible, or some other?

Or perhaps the NT gosepls, whose ultimate origins are utterly unknown?

I'm confused, you have repeatedly presented yourself as a supporter of the historical Bible.

[91181]

And you see abortion, alcohol and sex outside of marriage to be the peak of immoralty? Surely you jest?

I would very strongly suggest that the original Torah was written by the Egyptian Pharaohs as a control system to expand on, for the masses, and to feed into the rituals and power of their more ancient beliefs, while they horded the real esoteric knowledge for those deemed worthy of initiation.


You really think abortion isnt up there ?

to me its murder plain and simple

can you explain why you feel it isnt ..

[kidsarocker]

Well, since 'they' wrote 'Gods word' in the first place, this point is rather moot, isn't it?

8)

only the words they mixed in with Gods - why would the Elite create a religion that promoted the teachings of Jesus and yet they persecuted him? how can you trust the very people who persecuted Jesus with his very teachings?

[kidsarocker]

if religion is really a problem and according to some people it is a useful tool for nwo, then why is godlessness and immorality promoted by nwo ?

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1038172125692
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Arrivals/40497487822?v=app_2392950137&viewas=0#/video/video.php?v=1038175565778

[fallensoul]

Era of total destruction has slowly begun
Yielding death none will survive
Order out of chaos the true will of the Beast
A life of desolation

Ten bleeding heats
One wicked mind
In spiritual sin
Their time is now

Famine, plagues, war and death
scourges preceding the end
Death is your only savior

Ten bleeding heats
One wicked mind
In spiritual sin
Their time is now
Bringing total annihilation