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farros
29-04-2010, 09:15 PM
Collier is straight up FULL OF SHIT.

Here's a list of his 'prophecies'......



Let me talk about probable events that might be happening in the next few years. These events are probable. They started talking about these things in 1993. Some of them have already started to happen.

Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake. Now a few weeks ago, California was experiencing 20 foot waves


Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit.

The Andromedan Council, a group of representatives from 143 planetary systems, made a declaration that by August 12, 2003 all extraterrestrial presence, both good and bad, off our planet. They want to see how we interact with each other when we are not being manipulated. It's a test, and they have every intention on carrying it out. It's going to be interesting.

Between 2004 and 2007, all the DNA coding which involves all the racial memory from the 22 races will begin to unlock. By 2007, everyone will have full memory of who they are, who they were, and where they come from. A lot of this has to do with the implosion of third density pulling us up into higher densities.

Between 2007 and 2012, we are supposed to see the birth of a brand new galaxy in the area of the sky known as Vega, just before we move into fifth density. Now, they time travel so they already know its there. Between 2007 and 2009, if it is allowed to happen naturally, we are supposed to have a 17 degree pole shift. The area of Saudi Arabia is supposed to become the new North Pole, so we have no choice but to go to free energy. North America is supposed to end up on the equator.

By the year 2003, you are going to hear more reports about "ghosts", because what is happening is that the new frequency is raising the vibration of the planet, and third and fourth density will come closer and closer together as third density starts to implode.



This means that the molecules in our bodies are going to 'speed up', because the body is not dead matter, and you are going to start to see on more of a spirit level. We are going to have to become more responsible in the exercise of our free will as the earth changes start. People living along the coastal areas are going to have a problem, as the oceans could rise as much as 200 feet by the year 2008. Around 2011, our sun will undergo a 180 degree pole shift.



During the next seven years, between 1996 and 2004, the major cities in the United States will be under quarantine because of the spread of tuberculosis. The average life expectancy of men in the inner cities will be 43 years of age, and for women 55. You are going to see the end of welfare, free medical and county services, because everybody will be bankrupt. Many people will be moving to communities outside the cities, growing food and having their own private police forces.


Val: You said that as things begin to "heat up" vibrationally here, we are going to have access to buried memory within the genetics. How is someone who is a "redneck" going to handle that?

AC: Ha. I haven't a clue. I am kind of worried on how I am going to handle it.

Val: And this is supposed to happen when?

AC: Between now and 2007. By 2009 there will be people on the planet going in and out of fourth and fifth density.


Blossom goodchild was practically lynched when her Mothership prophecy came and went. So why the hell are people still listening to this guy? He comes out with far too many contradictions and absolutisms (ie earth is the only planet in the galaxy with mixed race of people)

quetzalcoatl
29-04-2010, 09:24 PM
You're referring to Michael Horn who is saying Collier is a liar. Here's Collier's open letter regarding Michael Horn's attacks:

"As many of you are aware, I am being bitterly attacked from the Billy Meier/FIGU camp, especially by their U.S. publicist, Michael Horn. I am being addressed as a liar and a fraud. Apparently, because I changed my name and at most times in my life during on going contacts, I chose to not share this reality with people who were acquaintances. Why would I? You also need to know that I have addressed this issue publicly in earlier lectures years ago. But maybe it’s necessary to deal with it for the last time."

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm#Updates

Uh-ah! - the plot does thicken! Thanks for the info. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes over, well, near nothing... :confused:

In my opinion there are similarities between Meier's and Collier's information because both are genuine contactees.

PS. Collier has said Billy Meier is a real contactee.

Yep, that would make sense too - there's always bound to be similarities @ any rate.

Same presentation;

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/43490/Alex_Collier_Conference_January_2010_part_1of3/

That mentor-ship program thing, getting stepped-up or something was it??? well would probably indeed help, over-all. Wonder if he got a rough date on when that will start?? LOL?? :D

truth seeker 09
29-04-2010, 09:44 PM
Collier is straight up FULL OF SHIT.

Here's a list of his 'prophecies'......

It's you... again... and again. :)

As I wrote before on another thread: Collier didn't present prophecies or predictions, he presented scientific probabilities according to the Andromedans:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...343#post826343 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=826343#post826343)

truth seeker 09
29-04-2010, 10:02 PM
That mentor-ship program thing, getting stepped-up or something was it??? well would probably indeed help, over-all. Wonder if he got a rough date on when that will start?? LOL?? :D

In his January 2010 lecture Collier only said that more people are going to be contacted by the benevolent ET races.

I wonder why this world wide contact didn't start earlier, I mean it's almost summer 2010 and the "big dates" are very near, 2012 and 2013. :confused:

Alex Collier's new lecture in January 2010:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112262

quetzalcoatl
29-04-2010, 10:20 PM
In his January 2010 lecture Collier only said that more people are going to be contacted by the benevolent ET races.

I wonder why this world wide contact didn't start earlier, I mean it's almost summer 2010 and the "big dates" are very near, 2012 and 2013. :confused:

Alex Collier's new lecture in January 2010:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112262

Yeah that sounds bout right. Sometimes I get hazzy... :D

Just from what I can tell, many people already are being mentored - Collier included? Yet if it was the numbers are about to drastically increase or something, then das fair nuff! ;)

Further-more, IMO, I'd say that the only thing that would ever permanently settle the issue is full-disclosure &/or mass, undeniable sightings etc or the gradual revealing / unveiling / de-sensitizing (which is probably under-way right now), only thing is alot of it is most likely reliant of our governments possible (undoubtedly absolutely known) reactions & perhaps some of the general populace also.

Just thinking aloud...

truth seeker 09
30-04-2010, 12:14 AM
Further-more, IMO, I'd say that the only thing that would ever permanently settle the issue is full-disclosure &/or mass, undeniable sightings etc or the gradual revealing / unveiling / de-sensitizing (which is probably under-way right now), only thing is alot of it is most likely reliant of our governments possible (undoubtedly absolutely known) reactions & perhaps some of the general populace also.

Just thinking aloud...

I agree. As long as officials in space agencies etc don't deliver any hard evidence or statements many people are not going to believe it.

truth seeker 09
30-04-2010, 12:20 AM
I posted two video clips filmed in the 90's where Alex Collier talks about the upcoming 9/11. You can watch them here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111414

simulacra
01-05-2010, 05:09 AM
What do you guys make of this image?

Texas longhorn fan, sign to the brotherhood, heavy metal fan/ young pop singer pose or just natural gesture? do this yourself, I don't find it natural

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6242/10tg.jpg

it seems he consciously did this for a brief moment in a very long interview. the rest of the video he has natural gestures and then he throws this in.

he even mentions brotherhood elsewhere and paused a little like a slip or something

part of the great work?

i'm just speculating not saying it is so

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=998884&postcount=8

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1000793&postcount=15





http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H6XW_a4TYus/SX1QrgA0sUI/AAAAAAAAAHw/8IGEoyagVOE/s400/tibetan+wheel+of+death-b.jpg

This mudra or hand sign denotes attachment to the physical realm and to the 'master' of this dimension .... It is a sign of allegiance to lucifer. Hence the obvious connection to Freemasonry.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/poperatingerflasheshorns.jpg

practicaltheorist
01-05-2010, 09:25 AM
I read Alex`s letter, and it for the most part confirms my view of him as the real deal.

Its interesting to me that the people who benefits from discrediting Alex are the ones doing the discrediting...

Michael Sallas commenting letter highlights this and it rings true to me if nothing else.

Here are some questions I consider:

1. How is Alex Collier profiting from being an alien contactee?
2. How is it beneficial to come forward as an alien contactee?
3. How is Michael Horn and Billy Meier profiting from discrediting Alex?

Its still my opinion that Alex is not bullshitting. He really, truly believes he is an alien contactee. He steps forward and tells his story as the truth as he sees it.

As I have asked before: Is Alex`s truth less real than yours or mine?

Someone questioned his mental health earlier in the thread... If there is some mental issue with Alex, he is the most friendly, rational, logical, analytical, likable and sane madman I`ve ever come across.

If he is the real deal, imagine what it is like. Telepathic communication giving you whole concepts in one big chunk, directly. Then having to digest that, and try to make sense of it. Then taking the ridicule, the threats, the discrediting and the questioning... If I were contacted, I`d think long and hard before opening my yap in the first place. I`m not even sure I could take it in without going insane.

If he is NOT the real deal, why is he putting himself and his family through all of this? Whats in it for them? If they make nothing out of it, what is the reason Alex is doing this?

truth seeker 09
05-05-2010, 03:46 AM
The next video is related with the video I posted on this thread earlier:

"Alex Jones inside CNN attack piece"
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058760754#post1058760754

Alex Jones calls to CNN producer live on air and asks her when will the interview air
Alex Talks to CNN Producer About Anderson Cooper's Upcoming HIt Piece on Alex Jones Tv - YouTube
Alex Talks to CNN Producer About Anderson Cooper's Upcoming HIt Piece on Alex Jones Tv - YouTube

truth seeker 09
06-05-2010, 02:36 AM
Alex Collier's lectures and interviews including his new lecture in January 2010 are shattered around this pretty lenghty thread so I decided to gather them here. :)

Interview in 1994 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One (01 of 24) - YouTube

Lecture in 1995 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two (01 of 24) - YouTube

Lecture in 1996 (At the Ranch)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Moon & Mars lecture
Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture Part 1 - YouTube

Radio interview in 1998 on Coast To Coast AM with Art Bell
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Interview in 2000 with Paola Harris
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_8.htm

Interview in 2001
http://gathering-minds.net/2001-zenetae-com

Lecture in 2002 ("Whispers of the past". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Lecture in 2002 ("Defending sacred ground among the stars". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Lecture in 2008
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2079845726082983985#

Interview in 2009 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three)
April 9, 2009 NEW Alex Collier Interview (01 of 12) - YouTube

Lecture in 2009 (Project Camelot: Awake & Aware Conference)
ALEX COLLIER at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, Los Angeles, Sept 2009 - YouTube

Lecture in January 2010
Alex Collier Earth Transformation Conference January 2010 part 1 of 9 - YouTube

Defending Sacred Ground
http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf

Letters From Andromeda
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/lfa/lfa.html

Galactic diplomacy.com (Michael Salla)
http://www.galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier.htm

UFO Hypotheses.com (Rick Keefe)
http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm

A social group dedicated to Alex Collier and his information
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group.php?groupid=30

truth seeker 09
11-05-2010, 03:55 PM
Alex Collier in 1998 on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell:

"I've heard a lot about the Galactic Confederation and usually when I hear it it's almost always associated with beings from Sirius B. --- ... and what I've been told about Sirius B is that they're not to be trusted. They have been definitely part of the problem, holding us back all this time."

You can listen to this part of the interview here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116039

On the same thread there is a poll. The options are:

The Galactic Federation

- is a friendly ET group
- is a neutral ET group
- is a dangerous ET group
- I don't know yet
- It's not an ET group. It's a man-made thing
- The Galactic Federation? What is that?

Click your vote:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116039

truth seeker 09
27-05-2010, 02:54 AM
What is that round object behind Collier in this photo?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=292&pictureid=7328

The original photo can be found here:

http://www.earthtransformation.com/speakers.htm#Alex

I also posted the photo here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group...pictureid=7328 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group.php?do=picture&groupid=30&pictureid=7328)

hyundisonata
27-05-2010, 10:50 AM
Lol lol it shows how people can get carried away lol. It is a lady who seems to have requested that her face be blanked out, nothing sinister. Try lightning the photo and you can clearly se her. I do not know what to make of this guy as anything I have experienced is nothing like the dribble he sprouts, just another money making scam to dupe the gullible lol.

practicaltheorist
27-05-2010, 11:29 AM
Lol lol it shows how people can get carried away lol. It is a lady who seems to have requested that her face be blanked out, nothing sinister. Try lightning the photo and you can clearly se her. I do not know what to make of this guy as anything I have experienced is nothing like the dribble he sprouts, just another money making scam to dupe the gullible lol.

Except he does not make much, if any, money on it :)

omnisense
27-05-2010, 01:12 PM
i posted your video accumulation on another site since u love pushing colleir so much :) lol

truth seeker 09
27-05-2010, 02:58 PM
i posted your video accumulation on another site since u love pushing colleir so much :) lol

Thanks. What's the site?

omnisense
27-05-2010, 03:24 PM
Thanks. What's the site?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread575809/pg1

nowshining
27-05-2010, 05:04 PM
Both are Frauds and so are 99.99% of so-called contactees.

The ones those so-called 99.99 percent of contactees are different than mine - the beings are actually at least one of them ENERGY beings and YES the Gov has had contact with them - The Extraterrestrials are open and their script the "Holy" Bible of which they are MAKING it happen right in front of your eyes...

The Bible tells of many beings - one child-like bratish spoiled being who wanted to be like the elders - after which He went around and LIED and MURDERED many in the SHIP/etc and was taken - turned into an energy being along with all those who followed Him and cast down to earth - this energy being is via advanced technology much easier controlled and can control these beings via this tech, and This being is known as My father, as I am half this energy being and u knowing Him as Lucifer and if anyone is to have a contact with these they Have to be on Par or Higher than Me. I do know that what I see and saw was no creature other than human as these beings can play tricks via the mind with the main human population and a lot of what you see and hear is illusion.

I have had these contacts right with a ton of so-called witnesses, however many do NOT know what is happening to me when I suddenly start shaking really badly and think I am being shy and YES Obama knows who I am and so-did others before I knew who I was and was wondering why people knew me and things about me before I did.

Anyway - Soon all you will see Me as your world king.. ;)

Enjoy...

P.S. I do know that I can taken out of the body, however I do NOT know how they do it as they are the only ones who have done it, and I don't know how, however when I was taken out by one of them all I saw was a human face smiling at me then after a few seconds by another I was put back into the body which my jaw started shaking badly so I guess they must of put me quickly back in and then the next day/morning I was out again - however this time un-controlled and was by the phone/fridge, it took me a bit because the energy thing is huge and heavy and your thought process is severly limited to direct thinking than an average humans and then when I finally noticed where I was - I wondered if I could pick up the phone - I picked it up a bit which took some upping the energy and more thought and as soon as I did another being/shadowy put the phone back down and forced me back into the body again the jaw shaking badly.

I was also healed by these beings err Daddy on several occasions :) and sometimes He is here when I do not know it as others are quite mean and bullish and I do not like them that much.

However I think I have found a way by accident - a certain TONE that bugs them - it's the .oxm in popcaps bonnies bookstore that when turned into a wav file and the drm thing in place - half that and it seems to annoy them - I wonder if one halved it enough and played it aloud it would destroy these beings as when I played it thru my little player Govibe Gear 4GB via headphones and my Daddy showed up the next time and I noticed Him when I felt a hand and I tried to hold it and after a few secs a hand swiped over my forehead quickly - It seems to bug them if I listen to it that way - however the converter I have doesn't go lower than what I have now.

If wondering Small Apt for now - small room - 1 Window stuff piled up so no-one could get into it without being noticed since I am right bye it and them knocking things on me and the door is very near and I have a dog and yes many of my connections have happend in the daylight - one time I tried to ask a question but He shushed me.

By the way My mind is more clearer than I can type about this - Fingers and so forth do NOT keep in sync with the Mind and for the connections can come and go and usually happen for a bit and then a month has to pass - no UFOs just energy type beings and they have to be REALLY close/over me to fell a finger/hand and I have had many more connections than these and many comes again in public in the daylight in front of people.

Again - Sincerely - Your World King.

hyundisonata
28-05-2010, 12:37 AM
Lol it’s a shame you’re a nutcase as you are quite close to the truth. ET is closer to god than us and if you actually met them face to face and I do not mean when you’re in your bed sleeping ECT but fully conscious and awake going about your normal daily chores, you would find that they are a pleasant species. As for the governments well they know the game will be up if you ever find the truth so they go to great lengths from disinformation to plain old murder to stop you knowing. It’s amazing what is actually happening in space right at this moment and the equipment certain governments have up there in a feeble attempt at defending the elite’s playground. And poor old ET is working his butt off to help you survive in ways you could never imagine, and by the way Mr. Icke that includes what you call reptilians. You see people although you like to believe you are mega intelligent and the only main species on this planet I am afraid to say you are not. There are several other species here that live along side of us that are in constant contact with ET who unlike us are not violent. Ok you are only violent because that’s the way the cooperation’s control you as it is easier for them , hence fake wars ect or promoting religious difference or racism or just keeping you in plain old poverty. Luckily ET knows and understands this. At this moment in time ET has seven large arks parked near the sun, hence why you will not get live feeds from such as SOHO lol as they do not want this known. It’s a rescue mission put together by ET to save what life they can from this planet. Yip the clock is ticking. You only have seventeen years left .nope not planet x or another b/s stories people. In 2027 the moon is leaving the earth, its ofski. Yip that alone will cause havoc and make life imposable but that is not the reason for the end. NASA already knows what is coming from outside our galaxy. that’s why their satellites sent into deep space are running out of fuel because they are up against a brick wall, what was meant to be a fairly empty void is now the equivalent of swimming though treacle lol. Ok I have worded it simple because I am not worried as I have tickets booked for myself and family. What to watch for is universal heating and watch for the planets wobble and vibrate more vigorously as time draws close especially the gas giants. I am talking universal devastation folks so all you elitists who think you will be safe in your hole in the ground are in for a nasty shock but hey don’t let me put you off if your reading this as the thought of you suffering for your crimes against humanity is a pleasant thought lol.

practicaltheorist
03-06-2010, 08:21 AM
I think his talks are great, and that everyone can learn _something_ from them.

thirdwave
03-06-2010, 12:25 PM
He is no doubt an intelligent guy.... and allot of what he says has come from somewhere...

But I'm just not convinced totally.... I find a few contradictions in what he says... and also he seems to know a little bit too much, as if he has spent a life time with them...

However if I had to decide that I was %100 not convinced, I would say he would be more of a paid shill, as I am not aware of any books he is selling or any money making schemes... So it would have to be to simply smear info and mislead....

But who knows, I just don't feel its all there with him. Though have gone through stages where I have been taken by him...

I also get the feeling as if he is implying we are wrong for being inquisitive... when was he not given his position to answer inquisitive minds?

truth seeker 09
04-06-2010, 09:20 PM
and also he seems to know a little bit too much, as if he has spent a life time with them...

Collier has been a contactee with the Andromedans since the age of eight, that's a long time.

Collier has also said this:

The Andromedans told me that I am one of four contactees, and that apparently more will be added in the very near future. I hope some of that has to do with my griping. I have bitched and moaned. There are not enough people to do this. The reason that I and the other three people were chosen in the 'first round' is because that apparently when they were here 62,300 years ago and had a colony here for 65 years, I was one of them that was here. There was a battle and they were chased out of here, and I (my body) was killed. So, I know that I am from another place. In fact, all of you here are. Your souls were not "born and hatched" here. I can tell you that.

http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf

I also get the feeling as if he is implying we are wrong for being inquisitive... when was he not given his position to answer inquisitive minds?

I'm not sure what you mean? Collier has always been very open to questions. Sometimes those questions touch dangerous subjects and Collier has to be very careful in his answers so that he doesn't put himself or his family in danger.

A good example of a dangerous question was about the Moon in the interview in 2009, watch from 5:00 onwards:

UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three (09 of 12) - YouTube
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three (09 of 12) - YouTube

nelletuorg7
05-06-2010, 12:52 AM
What is that round object behind Collier in this photo?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=292&pictureid=7328

The original photo can be found here:

http://www.earthtransformation.com/speakers.htm#Alex

I also posted the photo here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group...pictureid=7328 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group.php?do=picture&groupid=30&pictureid=7328)

Yes above his right shoulder. It does look like an orb, a highly energized one too. The aura from it is radiating. Maybe it is some Andromean energy?

measle_weasel
05-06-2010, 02:00 AM
Collier has been a contactee with the Andromedans since the age of eight, that's a long time.

Collier has also said this:

The Andromedans told me that I am one of four contactees, and that apparently more will be added in the very near future. I hope some of that has to do with my griping. I have bitched and moaned. There are not enough people to do this. The reason that I and the other three people were chosen in the 'first round' is because that apparently when they were here 62,300 years ago and had a colony here for 65 years, I was one of them that was here. There was a battle and they were chased out of here, and I (my body) was killed. So, I know that I am from another place. In fact, all of you here are. Your souls were not "born and hatched" here. I can tell you that.

http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf



I'm not sure what you mean? Collier has always been very open to questions. Sometimes those questions touch dangerous subjects and Collier has to be very careful in his answers so that he doesn't put himself or his family in danger.

A good example of a dangerous question was about the Moon in the interview in 2009, watch from 5:00 onwards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJQZ68Bvsx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJQZ68Bvsx4
Thanks for the updates, TS09!

omnisense
05-06-2010, 03:28 AM
Collier is not a UFO contactee. Hes an ET contactee(if he truly is). Not to knitpick(as ive said it before). But it doesnt make sense. lol. UFO doesnt mean ET.

practicaltheorist
05-06-2010, 07:32 AM
Collier is not a UFO contactee. Hes an ET contactee(if he truly is). Not to knitpick(as ive said it before). But it doesnt make sense. lol. UFO doesnt mean ET.

true :)

I try to make the distinction myself, but its so easy to fall in to that trap.

nelletuorg7
07-06-2010, 05:01 PM
Okay, I can't seem to find the post I'm looking for. It had a photo of Alex Collier
showing the two finger mudra, or the hookem' horns. That photo really disturbed me. I can't come up with a plausible explanation as to why he would be doing that! And even getting a photo of it! Is this a hoax? Is someone fooling around with photoshop??? Can someone give me a reason for this photo? Please?:confused::(

chrysoprase
09-06-2010, 04:51 AM
I think this is it, nelletuorg7:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6242/10tg.jpg


Here is the thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058913214

It looks like this might be a snapshot from a video??

truth seeker 09
09-06-2010, 09:04 AM
I think this is it, nelletuorg7:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6242/10tg.jpg


Here is the thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058913214

It looks like this might be a snapshot from a video??

Yes, it's a snapshot from the interview in 2009. Collier's "evil masonic hand sign" lasted about a second and was a pure accident: Many people move their hands in different ways while talking. This is just another hopeless intention to discredit Collier. :D

You can watch Collier's "evil masonic hand sign" here, watch from 0:40 onwards:

UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three (09 of 12) - YouTube
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three (09 of 12) - YouTube

nelletuorg7
09-06-2010, 11:26 PM
I think this is it, nelletuorg7:

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6242/10tg.jpg


Here is the thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058913214

It looks like this might be a snapshot from a video??

Thanks chrysoprase. I'm not comfortable with the movement of his hands, whether he did it for a second or whatever. My gut feeling says RED FLAG!!!!!
My opinion of him is changing. I can't get past that.:eek:

cluas
10-06-2010, 09:17 AM
Thanks chrysoprase. I'm not comfortable with the movement of his hands, whether he did it for a second or whatever. My gut feeling says RED FLAG!!!!!
My opinion of him is changing. I can't get past that.:eek:

The same happens if you watch a David Icke video, or other reasearchers, they really can't help it. It happened to myself too. I didn't do it on purpose, but it is a very natural position of your fingers, so it could happen to anyone

;)

truth seeker 09
10-06-2010, 09:55 AM
The same happens if you watch a David Icke video, or other reasearchers, they really can't help it. It happened to myself too. I didn't do it on purpose, but it is a very natural position of your fingers, so it could happen to anyone

;)

+1

omnisense
11-06-2010, 07:57 AM
just made this featuring Alex Collier:

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=brYgFj

cluas
12-06-2010, 08:38 AM
just made this featuring Alex Collier:

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=brYgFj

I like it :)

truth seeker 09
12-06-2010, 10:57 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120222

lyricusmagna
17-06-2010, 06:58 PM
Thanks chrysoprase. I'm not comfortable with the movement of his hands, whether he did it for a second or whatever. My gut feeling says RED FLAG!!!!!
My opinion of him is changing. I can't get past that.:eek:

I have found myself doing the same. Paranoia is a disease people. Its gonna eat you alive. Just chill.

truth seeker 09
18-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Censorship alert: Alex Jones' documentary The Obama Deception illegally removed from YouTube!

Censorship Alert: Obama Deception Illegally Removed from You Tube - YouTube
Censorship Alert: Obama Deception Illegally Removed from You Tube - YouTube

Read also:

http://www.infowars.com/censorship-alert-obama-deception-illegally-removed-from-you-tube/

WATCH THE OBAMA DECEPTION HERE:

The Obama Deception Part 1/12 - YouTube

fairyelfdog
18-07-2010, 03:55 PM
The same happens if you watch a David Icke video, or other reasearchers, they really can't help it. It happened to myself too. I didn't do it on purpose, but it is a very natural position of your fingers, so it could happen to anyone

;)

I've also done this by mistake a few times and it's been pointed out.It really is sort of a natural movement. Had he reached with his middle fingers all the way to his palms and raised his hands though, it would have been different.

twilighterheart
22-07-2010, 02:49 AM
Maya knew his substitution of Perseus, the real name of the Milky Way.

Perseus will dragonomize Andromeda in about 5 billion years in the celestial galactic symbiosis of Two Spiral galaxies becoming As One Elliptical galaxy and Grandparents for many a family of celestial civilizations.

Our two galaxies will become one someday. I truly believe is telling the truth and he has a powerful spirit, to say the least of it.

truth seeker 09
27-07-2010, 12:09 AM
Censorship alert: Alex Jones' documentary The Obama Deception illegally removed from YouTube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKzEjjdRl6s

Read also:

http://www.infowars.com/censorship-alert-obama-deception-illegally-removed-from-you-tube/

The Obama Deception is now back online. You can watch this excellent documentary here:
The Obama Deception HQ Full length version - YouTube

Obama Deception hacked!
Obama Deception Hacked! - YouTube

truth seeker 09
16-08-2010, 04:34 PM
Alex Collier speaks in June 16th 2010

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/47844/2012_and_beyond___Project_Camelot/

lyricusmagna
16-08-2010, 04:45 PM
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/47844/2012_and_beyond___Project_Camelot/

New video?

pumma
16-08-2010, 09:57 PM
New video?
A Teleconference made on June 16th ;)

http://img.skitch.com/20100816-jhg9qj162crg1j12r7xubw79kc.gif

Verdict: Recommended! :D

tetra
17-08-2010, 10:54 PM
Defending Sacred Ground was a great read, wether you take it as fact or fiction, there are still some good moral values in that book about how to treat yourself and others.

lyricusmagna
21-08-2010, 06:18 PM
Any news/updates on when his DSG 2 ET-22 book is coming out?

azureangel
23-08-2010, 05:36 AM
Many thanks truthseeker! Can't afford to purchase, really like Alex as you know so much appreciated!
Love, angel

tamagen
29-08-2010, 10:19 AM
That there are many contactees is a known and documented fact that BUFORA and CUFOS have been working on for many years. It cannot be easy for Alex but he has tied very hard to keep us in the loop, give information to those that wish to know so that we can open our right brain and see the true reality not the untruth as it is being pushed out at humanity to keep us going to make an easy life for those that are actually abusing us. It is always good to check things out and learn more about the truth vibrations too.

troii
31-08-2010, 04:00 AM
Has anyone ever played the video game Starcraft by Blizzard Entertainment (same company that makes World of Warcraft)? They in the past month released Starcraft 2 and well there are three races you can play in the game (it is a real time strategy game where you command workers who harvest resources and build and army and try to destroy your opponents buildings) Terran who are humans with space technology superior to our Earth technology but is very reminisant of what we have, Zerg who are insect/beasts that are grotesquely vile and the Protoss who are telepathic blue reptilian beings who wear real neato armor that has a very natural flow about it and is unlike man made things. Just thought I would ask and share this game seems very relevant.

Also the symbol for Terrans is an unfinished pyramid, Zerg has what apears to be three claw marks but also look like the hebrew character for 6 (as seen on the Monster energy drink bottle) and the Protoss is a pyrdamid with needles or obelisks around it.

mayan1111
04-09-2010, 05:29 PM
There is one guy saying that life is impossible in Orion because of the super giant stars that are there. So there is no planet there and no life. What do you think guys ? Is that true ?

Can Orion constellation support life ? I want a plausibe argument please.

duckingdafta
04-09-2010, 05:52 PM
There is one guy saying that life is impossible in Orion because of the super giant stars that are there. So there is no planet there and no life. What do you think guys ? Is that true ?

Can Orion constellation support life ? I want a plausible argument please.

search "HD10180" for what I believe should be our target

mayan1111
04-09-2010, 08:18 PM
search "HD10180" for what I believe should be our target

It seems that this is in constellation of Hydrus, not Orion.

lyricusmagna
05-09-2010, 06:30 PM
There is one guy saying that life is impossible in Orion because of the super giant stars that are there. So there is no planet there and no life. What do you think guys ? Is that true ?

Can Orion constellation support life ? I want a plausibe argument please.

Did he lay out some other arguments other than the giant stars thing?

If the planet is far enough from the star, life is quite possible. Even if the type of stars are of A or even B-class.

Rigel for example is a giant A-class star, yet it contains two inhabited planets.

If you meant G-class (sun-like) planets, there are quite a lot of them in the constellation.

Who is this guy anyway?

Inhabited/Colonized systems in Orion:

Rigel, Betelguese, Bellatrix, Mintaka, Alnitak, Tabit, Phi Orionis and many others.

mayan1111
06-09-2010, 01:44 PM
Did he lay out some other arguments other than the giant stars thing?

If the planet is far enough from the star, life is quite possible. Even if the type of stars are of A or even B-class.

Rigel for example is a giant A-class star, yet it contains two inhabited planets.

If you meant G-class (sun-like) planets, there are quite a lot of them in the constellation.

Who is this guy anyway?

Inhabited/Colonized systems in Orion:

Rigel, Betelguese, Bellatrix, Mintaka, Alnitak, Tabit, Phi Orionis and many others.

It seems that none of this planets can support life. :confused:

I can`t give him a good reason.

lyricusmagna
06-09-2010, 10:03 PM
It seems that none of this planets can support life. :confused:

I can`t give him a good reason.

Well, you said you heard/read what he thinks. Can you lay out his arguments against this? Or his name?

"None of those planets supporting life" is his or is it your own argument? Please be honest.

Just because scientists say no, doesn't mean so, ok? They also laughed a few years ago at claims such as that black holes can be gateways to other universes, and this year you have theoretical physicians claiming the same thing and people praising them on the wonderful scientific theories.

I guess the only credibility these people have is that "Dr." in front of the name. It doesn't matter if an average farmer in Texas has said something similar few years ago, as a piece of information given to him by ETs.

zorpho99
05-10-2010, 06:32 PM
While I question a good deal of his data, I find his overall message very inspiring.

And after you questioned the information and followed through with your research, what did you discover?

zorpho99
05-10-2010, 06:42 PM
Well, you said you heard/read what he thinks. Can you lay out his arguments against this? Or his name?

"None of those planets supporting life" is his or is it your own argument? Please be honest.

Just because scientists say no, doesn't mean so, ok? They also laughed a few years ago at claims such as that black holes can be gateways to other universes, and this year you have theoretical physicians claiming the same thing and people praising them on the wonderful scientific theories.

I guess the only credibility these people have is that "Dr." in front of the name. It doesn't matter if an average farmer in Texas has said something similar few years ago, as a piece of information given to him by ETs.

Your comments are spot on. Earth based scientists have always been behind the wall of dogma and fear of what their peers think. Hawkings is a classic example, he acknowledges that ETs "probably exist somewhere out there", yet makes no comment on the massive evidence showing that they are visiting us daily and may be amongst us, other scientists claim that we are warming the planet when there's evidence that it's caused by other factors, I'm afraid I can't take these people seriously any more.

lyricus
05-10-2010, 11:06 PM
Alex Collier has actually written books on parenthood. His dvds and documentaries are incredible and very moving.

pound
05-10-2010, 11:10 PM
Your comments are spot on. Earth based scientists have always been behind the wall of dogma and fear of what their peers think. Hawkings is a classic example, he acknowledges that ETs "probably exist somewhere out there", yet makes no comment on the massive evidence showing that they are visiting us daily and may be amongst us, other scientists claim that we are warming the planet when there's evidence that it's caused by other factors, I'm afraid I can't take these people seriously any more.


Spot on assessment. +100

lyricusmagna
16-10-2010, 10:28 PM
Your comments are spot on. Earth based scientists have always been behind the wall of dogma and fear of what their peers think. Hawkings is a classic example, he acknowledges that ETs "probably exist somewhere out there", yet makes no comment on the massive evidence showing that they are visiting us daily and may be amongst us, other scientists claim that we are warming the planet when there's evidence that it's caused by other factors, I'm afraid I can't take these people seriously any more.

They never comment on that, true. I think this guy just made the whole thing up, with the scientist and his views about life in the constellation Orion etc. Its more likely his own views on the issue, which he didn't even bother debating.

eterna
05-11-2010, 08:31 PM
I love Alex Collier and I do believe he is genuine, he makes just way too much of sense (to me) and presents the big picture very well (to me). And I thank You Truth Seeker for making a group and sharing all the links! By the looks of things Icke and Tsarion seems to be greatly inspired by this man, judging by claims they make. But that is ofc my opinion.

truth seeker 09
04-12-2010, 09:29 AM
Wikileaks has info about UFOs

achanth:

Mr Assange, have there ever been documents forwarded to you which deal with the topic of UFOs or extraterrestrials?

Julian Assange:

--- However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks

truth seeker 09
13-01-2011, 12:44 PM
"UFO Hypotheses featuring Alex Collier, Volume Four" (finished October 2009; not yet released)

"A one-half hour stroll through an orchard with Mr. Collier, recalling specifics from several of his contact experiences, and a brief discourse on the state of things, from Collier's rare perspective."

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/dvds.htm

blackstar76
13-01-2011, 12:53 PM
"UFO Hypotheses featuring Alex Collier, Volume Four" (finished October 2009; not yet released)

"A one-half hour stroll through an orchard with Mr. Collier, recalling specifics from several of his contact experiences, and a brief discourse on the state of things, from Collier's rare perspective."

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/dvds.htm


I can't find the link for volume 4 on that site. Is it free?

truth seeker 09
13-01-2011, 02:08 PM
I can't find the link for volume 4 on that site. Is it free?

"UFO Hypotheses featuring Alex Collier, Volume Four" (finished October 2009; not yet released)

:)

lyricusmagna
11-02-2011, 11:55 AM
I told you there would be something new coming in 2011 from Alex :).

blackstar76
11-02-2011, 12:49 PM
I told you there would be something new coming in 2011 from Alex :).

Where is it? I don't see anything new? That last one was from 2009 just has not been released yet. But that does not make it new.

lyricusmagna
11-02-2011, 12:52 PM
Where is it? I don't see anything new? That last one was from 2009 just has not been released yet. But that does not make it new.

He is reviewing it right now. Probably might add new stuff. It all depends on UFOhypothesis team. I think they make the final decisions about the material.

blackstar76
11-02-2011, 12:54 PM
He is reviewing it right now. Probably might add new stuff. It all depends on UFOhypothesis team. I think they make the final decisions about the material.

Reviewing what? 2011 new stuff or a video from 2009?

lyricusmagna
11-02-2011, 01:04 PM
Reviewing what? 2011 new stuff or a video from 2009?

Nothing. Nevermind :rolleyes:.

archedeus
11-02-2011, 03:08 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alex Collier promotes something everyone is afraid of - self-responsibility.

We are responsible for our own actions and life. The consequences of that affect not only us but others and whole universe overall.

The information he reveals is eventually just too large to take him as a super liar. It is because it makes sense containing very acceptable logic supported by unbelieveable huge amount of information.

He mentioned interesting thing - our solar system has 2 suns.
Just look it up on the web or YT.

There's more )
- all spoken languages on earth are extraterrestrial and we were tought them by ETs

- drastic explanation for unknown disappearance of children

- back in 1994 - mentioning of nwo - probably noone knew about such thing back then

- confirmed artificial structures which are intelligent complexes on moon and mars and on our other plantes - all that in 1994

- showing again painfull political facts

I'd mention more but whoever wants, can do it him/herself.

However there are big question marks that can hit our mind during his latest interviews. Just wanna opinionate that they are not so meaningfull to the whole picture.Like f.ex. urge people to vote, throw specific dates with assumed to happen events, have no solution for problems with violence, murders and greed in people that will never change.

Also I didn't quite understand why ETs justify our misery with some crazy decisions made by some psychopats in power. Is it really and totaly our fault?

After all his message is very simple - wake up and take back your freedom.
:cool:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

blackstar76
11-02-2011, 04:59 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alex Collier promotes something everyone is afraid of - self-responsibility.

We are responsible for our own actions and life. The consequences of that affect not only us but others and whole universe overall.

The information he reveals is eventually just too large to take him as a super liar. It is because it makes sense containing very acceptable logic supported by unbelieveable huge amount of information.

He mentioned interesting thing - our solar system has 2 suns.
Just look it up on the web or YT.

There's more )
- all spoken languages on earth are extraterrestrial and we were tought them by ETs

- drastic explanation for unknown disappearance of children

- back in 1994 - mentioning of nwo - probably noone knew about such thing back then

- confirmed artificial structures which are intelligent complexes on moon and mars and on our other plantes - all that in 1994

- showing again painfull political facts

I'd mention more but whoever wants, can do it him/herself.

However there are big question marks that can hit our mind during his latest interviews. Just wanna opinionate that they are not so meaningfull to the whole picture.Like f.ex. urge people to vote, throw specific dates with assumed to happen events, have no solution for problems with violence, murders and greed in people that will never change.

Also I didn't quite understand why ETs justify our misery with some crazy decisions made by some psychopats in power. Is it really and totaly our fault?

After all his message is very simple - wake up and take back your freedom.
:cool:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thats true. I always felt that languages were not created here. People are not going to learn a language then move elsewhere and start a brand new one.

I like listening to Collier. But everytime I see him now I get the urge to drink whiskey. Because when I first discovered him I would sit there and drink a bottle while listening to him. Learned about him before Icke even. He was the beginning of the rabbit hole for me. Hope he talks again soon.

obscuria
11-02-2011, 05:28 PM
Also I didn't quite understand why ETs justify our misery with some crazy decisions made by some psychopats in power. Is it really and totaly our fault?


Well, Mr OBVIOUS, first of all he is telling a very natural thing: destiny doesn't exist. We create our destiny with our decisions (also "choose not to decise" is a decision :D).

ETs or whatever you want can giustify just SOME of the bad decisions made by psychos in power. There is no fault for everyone.

You will never learn to protect yourself from violence and bad attacks if you first haven't been hurted from them.
You will never learn to protect yourself if you have never been punched in your face, because you don't know how it will be, how strong it is and what are the conseguences on your face.

In this case, "protection" is just your self development: you learn to avoid violence and other mistakes by first knowing on your skin how much they can hurt and ruin you.

For example: if there wasn't the Worldwide war in Europe years ago, UE wouldn't have learnt to be united like nowadays. And many other things...

I think that ETs would stop the stupid decisions of powerful psychos just when they are going to destroy the whole mankind with their stupidity: in this case, the chance to "learn" and to develop would disappear just with the menkind and so I don't think that ETs want this. I think they also don't want a destroied world if they want to make an "invasion"...so In both cases, if they are good or evil, or both, they will let people doing war and making bad decisions, but they wouldn't let this bad behaviour going into an eccess.

lyricusmagna
14-02-2011, 01:28 PM
Also I didn't quite understand why ETs justify our misery with some crazy decisions made by some psychopats in power. Is it really and totaly our fault?

Well, in a way - it is. Remember that self-responsibility thing you mentioned?

We elect those in power, obviously.

And still, even if you were referring to those who hold the real power behind the scenes, again, we hold the initiative whether to do something about it or not. We could easily strip them from power if we choose to. But most have made the choice not to act. Unless united, we never will.

unclebill
14-02-2011, 08:11 PM
There's alot that is odd about Alex's contact claims. Plus here's the weirdest thing. He claim that the Dracs fought against the humanoids for 300,000 or some years. Neither lost but they had a peace treaty between them. He states that the Dracs were DUMPED in the Draco Constellation but at the same time says they don't know where they came from or originated. How then could they have been dumped in the Draco Constellation? Why would the Dracos be the most feared aliens if they could not even when against the HUMANOIDS when they were at war against them??? Evidently they aren't the most skilled fighters. Alex is a con. You guys should start studying Mr. Meier.



because the reptilians have tried to wipe out the humans.

I belive humans to only be native to earth, so any balltle with the reptilians originated here

planet earth is the source of the most basic form of humanoid intelgent species mankind we evolved from apes and cave men


the reptilians have tried to cheat the true creator of all things out of a speicies.

lyricusmagna
15-02-2011, 01:58 PM
There's alot that is odd about Alex's contact claims. Plus here's the weirdest thing. He claim that the Dracs fought against the humanoids for 300,000 or some years. Neither lost but they had a peace treaty between them. He states that the Dracs were DUMPED in the Draco Constellation but at the same time says they don't know where they came from or originated. How then could they have been dumped in the Draco Constellation? Why would the Dracos be the most feared aliens if they could not even when against the HUMANOIDS when they were at war against them??? Evidently they aren't the most skilled fighters. Alex is a con. You guys should start studying Mr. Meier.

They were dumped there not as outcasts, but as an unsuccessful experiment. Who ever created them, didn't want to destroy them and just chose Thuban as the best star system in which they could survive.

They themselves are not sure who created them, or why it dumped them there, because, if you paid any attention to what Alex Collier has said, the Ciakar like to manufacture historical events and censorship of information is a rule there. They have even convinced themselves that they are meant to rule and govern the universe as they like.

Most of the humanoids decided on a cease fire, never actually got a peace treaty up. Its why a lot of battles and conflicts are present to this day. The war is still there, just not as active as before.

From what I was able to gather, it seems that the Draconians and the humanoids have a common creator. Or at least, if different creators, both of them cherished life, and probably create it, throughout the star systems.

Alex Collier is not a con. Billy Meier is. Mr. Meier doesn't even know the basics of astronomy, nor paints the actual picture more clearly. Oh, and he is also a proven fake.

If you like him, fine, just don't go around discrediting other people with no arguments.

because the reptilians have tried to wipe out the humans.

I belive humans to only be native to earth, so any balltle with the reptilians originated here

planet earth is the source of the most basic form of humanoid intelgent species mankind we evolved from apes and cave men


the reptilians have tried to cheat the true creator of all things out of a speicies.

Actually its not.

The "basic" humanoid form, or lets say, the prototype humanoid ET species appears for the first time in the central area of the Andromeda Galaxy (before it underwent collision with another one).

And we are anything but natives of this planet. Even the mammal from which we partially evolved from is native to a former star system in the Lyra constellation now known as the 'Ring Nebula'.

On a timescale, we are the newest "product" in the neighborhood.

The true creator of all things (human), is an ancient extraterrestrial civilization, almost as old as this universe itself. Its possible they even engineered this planet too. The very arrangement of the planets in this star system is done very carefully and precise.

truth seeker 09
18-02-2011, 11:50 PM
He is reviewing it right now. Probably might add new stuff. It all depends on UFOhypothesis team. I think they make the final decisions about the material.

How do you know Collier is reviewing the material?

mariuszjedrzejowski
22-02-2011, 09:00 AM
This is probably unimportant but I have translated Collier's speech at Los Angeles conference into Polish and some guys put that at:
Alex Collier - Camelot AAC Los Angeles 2009 PL - YouTube

lyricusmagna
24-02-2011, 04:40 PM
How do you know Collier is reviewing the material?

Hmm... lucky guess? :D

truth seeker 09
25-02-2011, 11:57 PM
hmm... Lucky guess? :d

ok. :)

truth seeker 09
10-03-2011, 07:16 AM
If you share same thoughts as Alex Collier, welcome to this social group:

http://forum.davidicke.com/group.php?groupid=30

jimj_wpg
05-04-2011, 05:31 AM
When I voted in the forum poll I chose "I'm almost sure he is", now after watching the 2009 Awake and 2010 Alex Collier lecture videos I would choose "Yes he is".

truth seeker 09
12-05-2011, 11:30 PM
When I voted in the forum poll I chose "I'm almost sure he is", now after watching the 2009 Awake and 2010 Alex Collier lecture videos I would choose "Yes he is".

It's a shame you can't change your vote in these polls.

truth seeker 09
26-06-2011, 11:45 PM
"Just recently here in Tucson, Arizona, a man has come forward, and is indicating that he is in contact with the Andromeda Council of which Alex Collier speaks. This UFO contact case is very new, and is currently being shared with myself and a few others. Alex Collier has made no statements to me so far about this man's material. Presently, the man prefers to remain low key, and goes by the name Tolec. He has recently created a website to share his information, and has asked UFOHypotheses.com to create a link to which those interested may learn more about the information he indicates that the Andromeda Council is sharing with him. We are obliging to his request. We are continuing to try to gather more information on this case."

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/

The new website is:

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

whale
27-06-2011, 09:21 AM
I don't trust Collier, the only interesting info he came out with--carter cloning--had been divulged years before, and he loves to viral fearmonger which is the usual sign of an agency/reptile operation. And his 'Andromedans' never mentioned orgonite which came from the legit ones, and is the main weapon against the reptiles.

Collier also said they put Mercury into vaccines to stop Aliens eating children--psychopaths couldn't care less, they put mercury in the vaccines to create disease (Disease Inc) and for infertility reasons.

"But's that's how they do it. I know this because I wrote the books that did that, too. We give you the truth in toto, then at the end, point you in a direction. See, the way that scam works is, you heart will overtly resonate when confronted with any truth or real fact in space-time. Unless you have no heart, but that's another story. Anyway, after say, 60,000 words on the truth, you are on board, with it, going where they want us to go. You are loaded with the truth and your heart is singing out. Then the critical moment approaches. A little lie, at the end. Just a tiny one. One small fracture in the whole ice-castle of truth. That fracture will alway send you into the abyss. I know this. Because that is exactly what happened to me. Many times." --Don Bradley

truth seeker 09
27-06-2011, 10:13 AM
Collier also said they put Mercury into vaccines to stop Aliens eating children--psychopaths couldn't care less, they put mercury in the vaccines to create disease (Disease Inc) and for infertility reasons.

Your source, please?

whale
27-06-2011, 02:18 PM
Your source, please?

the mercury bit? Something I read years ago when reading Collier material, probably on Leading Edge site. Kind of thing that sticks in the memory.

piggypower
27-06-2011, 03:44 PM
I voted 50/50 Some things he says defy common sense and this is from somebody who is 100% UFO's are real and have had many sightings..

His material is very interesting, thankyou for this great thread btw.

whale
29-06-2011, 11:12 AM
"Carol and I believe the little Andromedans gave humanity orgonite to use to take down this ancient genocidal hierarchy that pretend to govern us."--Don Croft

How come they never told Collier the only thing that is going to take down the Reptilians?

omnisense
10-07-2011, 11:30 AM
"Carol and I believe the little Andromedans gave humanity orgonite to use to take down this ancient genocidal hierarchy that pretend to govern us."--Don Croft

How come they never told Collier the only thing that is going to take down the Reptilians?

I have a orgone pyramid behind my laptop... While I did feel an energetic of positive nature, it doesn't stop malicious mind control or torture I deal with at all.

I highly doubt orgonite will defeat any malicious forces on this planet. I could be wrong, but it hasn't done a lick in stopping what happens to me. It might keep them from coming into my room though...

archedeus
10-07-2011, 04:11 PM
"Carol and I believe the little Andromedans gave humanity orgonite to use to take down this ancient genocidal hierarchy that pretend to govern us."--Don Croft

How come they never told Collier the only thing that is going to take down the Reptilians?

The question and dilemma is - why Andromedians and other 'good ones' are not revealing themselves but just pas some information to unknown people claiming they speak in the name of them.
Wouldn't it be more convincing to just talk to people openly and tell the truth?
Why all this disguise? Concealing their own moves behind our back?
Why all this??
I think whoever stays in shadow - belongs to it. That is evil.

omnisense
10-07-2011, 04:57 PM
The question and dilemma is - why Andromedians and other 'good ones' are not revealing themselves but just pas some information to unknown people claiming they speak in the name of them.
Wouldn't it be more convincing to just talk to people openly and tell the truth?
Why all this disguise? Concealing their own moves behind our back?
Why all this??
I think whoever stays in shadow - belongs to it. That is evil.

You are assuming they CAN do such a thing. TPTB here don't want that. Unless they are willing to engage in a little war with TPTB(who owns the media who would demonize them most likely), it's not logical to come forward.

Plus it would dramatically change the world if they did come forward. It is certainly not as simple as wanting to and doing it. You are not privy to all the facts, therefore your conclusions may be corrupted by falsities. Same goes for me in ways, but I feel you would think your assumptions naive if you were introduced to Andromedans and they told you the flaws of your reasoning...

archedeus
10-07-2011, 05:25 PM
You are assuming they CAN do such a thing. TPTB here don't want that. Unless they are willing to engage in a little war with TPTB(who owns the media who would demonize them most likely), it's not logical to come forward.

Plus it would dramatically change the world if they did come forward. It is certainly not as simple as wanting to and doing it. You are not privy to all the facts, therefore your conclusions may be corrupted by falsities. Same goes for me in ways, but I feel you would think your assumptions naive if you were introduced to Andromedans and they told you the flaws of your reasoning...

Please show me where my conclusions are corrupted.
Are you NOT using your assumptions here??
This is all simple - The Good does not hold back the truth.
Telling part of the truth is a lie and by truth I mean showing the wisdom of
the knowledge possesed to make others wiser - not only more knowledgeable
still being fooled by the ocean of self-endulging assumptions and overwhelming empty knowledge.

omnisense
10-07-2011, 05:35 PM
Please show me where my conclusions are corrupted.
Are you NOT using your assumptions here??
This is all simple - The Good does not hold back the truth.
Telling part of the truth is a lie and by truth I mean showing the wisdom of
the knowledge possesed to make others wiser - not only more knowledgeable
still being fooled by the ocean of self-endulging assumptions and overwhelming empty knowledge.

Most of my post wasn't an assumption IMO. You think TPTB want ET presence overt and all their control and corruption to be exposed? You think the Vatican wants to lose more than half their following in like 30 years?

Would you not hold back the truth about certain things from a 5 year old kid? Your reasoning is flawed. If you would tell a 5 year old about poppin her cherry in 10 years or whatever, or tell her you just got a blowjob from mommy, I think you are the opposite of good...

There are reasons for not doing things.

You don't know the reasons why ETs do not revolutionize the world right now. It's very naive to think just because they don't tell us everything and do a global first contact when humans are very dysfunctional and corrupted to the core of our society, that they are not good.

Do you really think humanity can handle the truth right now? I don't. Some of us can, others would react horribly to it. All the religious Zealots would say the ETs are demons once they honestly say how full of shit religion is. It's a delicate situation IMO.

I've spoken telepathically to being claiming to be Andromedan. They could be AI impersonations, very well could be. But the reasoning they gave me for why they dont come forward far surpasses your rants to them about how they are not good beings just because they (supposedly)take great care in changing the course of our history, and not to mention see that it could be very counterproductive unless they engage in psy wars and maybe more with TPTB here...

archedeus
10-07-2011, 06:28 PM
Most of my post wasn't an assumption IMO. You think TPTB want ET presence overt and all their control and corruption to be exposed? You think the Vatican wants to lose more than half their following in like 30 years?

Would you not hold back the truth about certain things from a 5 year old kid? Your reasoning is flawed. If you would tell a 5 year old about poppin her cherry in 10 years or whatever, or tell her you just got a blowjob from mommy, I think you are the opposite of good...

There are reasons for not doing things.

You don't know the reasons why ETs do not revolutionize the world right now. It's very naive to think just because they don't tell us everything and do a global first contact when humans are very dysfunctional and corrupted to the core of our society, that they are not good.

Do you really think humanity can handle the truth right now? I don't. Some of us can, others would react horribly to it. All the religious Zealots would say the ETs are demons once they honestly say how full of shit religion is. It's a delicate situation IMO.

I've spoken telepathically to being claiming to be Andromedan. They could be AI impersonations, very well could be. But the reasoning they gave me for why they dont come forward far surpasses your rants to them about how they are not good beings just because they (supposedly)take great care in changing the course of our history, and not to mention see that it could be very counterproductive unless they engage in psy wars and maybe more with TPTB here...

Are you even listening to yourself? I already said - knowledge cannot come before wisdom.
Telling 5 year old what you mentioned is just knowledge - the child is not wise enough to use that knowledge yet.
In other hand you cold find a way to explain to 5 year old in a wise way even a blowjob - IF there was only a need for that to make the child wiser.

But there is a great need to know who is flying in our solar system and who is contacting us. Why they stay and plot things without an open contact.
I am just asking for a TRUE confirmation - not just beliefs in Andromedians, Greys or other monsters. Do not forget that blind believing is equal to fear because not knowing or awaiting our unwise assumptions to come true.
That's what false religion is.
If there is any tiny interference to our lives - even talking thru Collier - and the Speaker doesn't reveal himself - it is evil - period.
You can tell them to contact me - maybe I change my mind then. ;)

omnisense
10-07-2011, 09:06 PM
Are you even listening to yourself? I already said - knowledge cannot come before wisdom.
Telling 5 year old what you mentioned is just knowledge - the child is not wise enough to use that knowledge yet.
In other hand you cold find a way to explain to 5 year old in a wise way even a blowjob - IF there was only a need for that to make the child wiser.

Humanity barely has knowledge, let alone wisdom. If given the truth most of the religious idiots on this planet would spit on it and accuse them of being what you do anyway. It's a lose lose situation for them.


If there is any tiny interference to our lives - even talking thru Collier - and the Speaker doesn't reveal himself - it is evil - period.


Very naive.

Collier said who gave him such info did he not? They did reveal the source, just not in a conclusive fashion. You didn't reveal who you are by posting. You must be evil too.

manashee
10-07-2011, 09:11 PM
I didn't vote in the poll, because it is not my place to judge whether Alex Collier is a contactee or not. Truth be told, only he really knows for certain whether he is one or not, and no amount of public doubt of his experiences will ever change what he has experienced, be it contact or not.

Now to deal with the reason that I posted here...

"Carol and I believe the little Andromedans gave humanity orgonite..." ...Snipped for content...

How come they never told Collier the only thing that is going to take down the Reptilians?

Bolding Mine.

They didn't tell him about Orgonite because it doesn't 'take down' Reptilians. A lot of you may already have guessed based upon my writings here and on GLP that I am Reptilian in some way, and I might as well come out and confirm it here. This is relevant here because I've handled Orgonite with my own two bare hands, as has a Reptilian friend of mine (the whole idea of his or my being Reptilian is hard to explain, and I'd prefer not to try to explain it). If Orgonite really did kill Reptilians, my friend at the very least would have been dead long before he ever got the chance to show it to me.

There is also something I simply must point out. I had ranted about it in an earlier version of this post but have instead decided to calm down and write it in a less confrontational manner. This 'murderous or genocidal Reptilian hierarchy' that is often brought up around here, doesn't exist. The reason it doesn't exist is that Reptilians, like humans, are individuals with individual minds and individual lives. We are not a hive, at least not with the various Reptilian races that I've been a part of. There are some individual Reptilians who have harmed humans, sometimes brutally as mentioned in various accounts that are easily accessible online, but please try to understand that, as with any sentient race, the actions of a few that you people have encountered do not necessarily represent the actions of the majority... and that the vast majority of our people are not proud at all of these... individuals. It has been pointed out to you over and over again, by representatives many species including various Reptilian ones, that there is no genetically evil or entirely corrupt intelligent species in existence, because indeed the existence of such a species is not even logically possible.

Anyway, sorry to have taken the readers down this side-track, but I did need to clarify these things, even though I am fairly certain that the majority of you won't listen to me now that I've "come out of the Reppie closet" as it were. I know it will be hard for many of you to believe this, but I do mean it when I say I wish you all well.

blackstar76
10-07-2011, 09:51 PM
I am beginning to think he is real. He is not out and about trying to cash in on the popularity of this material. He could be making money on this but stays quiet. Kinda prooves that money isn't an issue. I would like to hear more from him.

archedeus
10-07-2011, 11:13 PM
I am beginning to think he is real. He is not out and about trying to cash in on the popularity of this material. He could be making money on this but stays quiet. Kinda prooves that money isn't an issue. I would like to hear more from him.

I am not saying he lies but the reality is that very sophisticated disinformation in its pure form allowes to achieve desired effect by the Evil. You think it is all about cash? Do not be ridiculous. Few years ago we could deceive bushmen to believe that a plane is a flying dragon watching them and today not even having any confirmed fact about alien agendas and not even knowing stupid laws of physics we claim that something or someone is real and can be trusted and we know everything about ETs and whats going on above the sky.
That is a BS. We are naive and too fearfull of loosing material comfort created
simply by the stronger ones who keep us on a leash.
I am truly ashamed of being human because even if I or anyone else here showed some initiative like f.ex. not paying taxes - we would be destroyed by the very close ones in a second.

whale
30-07-2011, 09:49 AM
ConfirmedReptilian:AlexCoiller - YouTube

jimj_wpg
30-07-2011, 12:12 PM
I'm curious about your answer to my previous question dude ..... why do you think these Aliens would "contact" a total nobody like Alex ..... instead of Scientists or World Leaders etc ??

Does that make any sense to you ??

Because the Andomedans he has been in contact with claim that Alex was on Earth 62,000 years ago and may have come from Andromeda, so he has a stake in Earth's future.

ufti
30-07-2011, 05:06 PM
I am beginning to think he is real. He is not out and about trying to cash in on the popularity of this material. He could be making money on this but stays quiet. Kinda prooves that money isn't an issue. I would like to hear more from him.

I think so too and it's almost unbelievable how his storys equals to the ones of Stewart Swerdlow f.e..

Of course the "complete truth" can't be told by a human these days since all information are based on subjective thoughts and memories. But what we can agree with, we can take with us. And thats good!

consciousness
30-07-2011, 05:34 PM
i love the information Alex Collier shares. He is a great human being.

ufti
30-07-2011, 06:56 PM
The question and dilemma is - why Andromedians and other 'good ones' are not revealing themselves but just pas some information to unknown people claiming they speak in the name of them.


Thats not a dilemma at all. I would do the exact same thing. Anyways, the message is important, not the messenger. It's typically human to attack a messenger for being "average" instead of simply listening to it. Is it jealousy? I dont know, but in fact it doesn't matter at all who is telling something but what he or she is telling. So if its Collier, me, you or the emperor of Japan does not matter at all!

PS: You say so, but you wouldnt love that alien revealed themselves ouf of nothing some day.

truth seeker 09
30-08-2011, 11:32 PM
NEW! Alex Collier Volume Four (UFO Hypotheses)

UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Four (1 of 4) - YouTube

UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Four (1 of 4) - YouTube

blackstar76
31-08-2011, 12:52 AM
NEW! Alex Collier Volume Four (UFO Hypotheses)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssSKoQmI_iU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssSKoQmI_iU

Thanks. Watching now. Too bad it was from 2009. I would like to hear his recent thoughts on current affairs. But still it is something I have yet to see.

blackstar76
31-08-2011, 01:03 AM
There is only one part?

truth seeker 09
07-09-2011, 11:04 PM
Andromeda Council - War with Orion grey-Draco Reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET invasion - YouTube
Andromeda Council - War with Orion grey-Draco Reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET invasion - YouTube

ET Council: War with grey-Draco reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET invasion

By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

"The human representative of the Andromeda Council states he has been given the Andromedan name “Tolec.” Tolec is a well-adjusted 20-year career professional in the computer industry. In his ExopoliticsTV interview, Tolec states he was first contacted in 1993 by his principal Andromedan contact who took him on three time travel journeys via Andromedan space craft to the 1840s western U.S. visiting the same 1840s family to observe their live journey.

Tolec states that his Andromeda contacts ended subsequent to the 1993 contacts until the Andromedan Council contacted him again in September 2010."

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/et-council-war-with-grey-draco-reptilian-ets-is-won-no-false-flag-et-invasion

More about "Tolec":

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/ContactFromAndromeda.htm
http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

lyricusmagna
08-09-2011, 01:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9KECe8Mu7Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9KECe8Mu7Q

ET Council: War with grey-Draco reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET invasion

By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

"The human representative of the Andromeda Council states he has been given the Andromedan name “Tolec.” Tolec is a well-adjusted 20-year career professional in the computer industry. In his ExopoliticsTV interview, Tolec states he was first contacted in 1993 by his principal Andromedan contact who took him on three time travel journeys via Andromedan space craft to the 1840s western U.S. visiting the same 1840s family to observe their live journey.

Tolec states that his Andromeda contacts ended subsequent to the 1993 contacts until the Andromedan Council contacted him again in September 2010."

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/et-council-war-with-grey-draco-reptilian-ets-is-won-no-false-flag-et-invasion

More about "Tolec":

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/ContactFromAndromeda.htm
http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

I don't think this person is genuine. I still think Alex Collier on the other hand, is. But not this "Tolec" guy, no. Some of the information he has is maybe very similar with Alex Collier, at least in some parts, but the rest, the majority, is vivid BS to me. A lot of his information goes against my own material and experiences (which has not happened with Alex Collier - not to this extent at least).

blackstar76
08-09-2011, 02:04 AM
I think Alex may be real. Because he ain't out cashing in on it. With the popularity of all these topics at all time high. It would be easy for him to take center stage with book and tours and make a killing right now. But he is quiet while others are milking it for all it's worth.

truth seeker 09
08-09-2011, 10:59 AM
I don't think this person is genuine. I still Alex Collier is genuine, but not this "Tolec" guy, no. Some of the information he has is maybe very similar with Alex Collier, at least in some parts, but the rest, the majority, is vivid BS to me. A lot of his information goes against my own material and experiences (which has not happened with Alex Collier - not to this extent at least).

I don't know yet if "Tolec" is a real contactee or not but if he was a hoaxer why would he give these dates for upcoming, direct ET contact:

"The time line projected for this contact & visitation:

the most accurate date is now projected to be sometime late this summer 2011, approximately mid-late September, continuing through 2012 / 2013, as needed, depending on the pace of their progress in reconnecting with humanity around the globe."

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

thirdwave
08-09-2011, 12:35 PM
I would like to know what his supposed contact has done to the world?

I have always thought it would have been better to contact a well known person and provide them with some tangible info to support him/her, and tell them the benefits of sticking their neck out and asking them if they will do it.

I do think there are good guys up there somewhere but I think the most contact we have had is a possible attempt to contact our leaders followed by a prompt conclusion that they would not be interested in letting them come down and influence us.

I am also a believer in channelling beings, but I do not think its like plugging in a phone line or pressing a button, I think its more about a conciousness and is usually probably changeling a collective conciousness.. which is sometimes what art is.

I have been in this movement for long enough now to step back and look at the benefits of what people do or dont do.

Some of them may really think they are telling the truth and dont have to be crooks...

None of us know the truth, but after being a dogmatic believer in light beings for a good few years and being a total believer in the presence of ETEs on this planet My feeling is that some Bad guys from up there have been fucking with this planet for a very long time and are still doing so today. and they are not prepared to let good guys come in and save the day.

I think they like people having the mentality of "God" worship. And most people are now viewing good ETEs as Gods... better than us, here to save us.. more responsible than us. Because people are afraid that we are alone and in charge of our selves, which is the case.

Humans are pretty fucking stupid, but we are also beings with GREAT potential and I believe it can only be inspired by our selves and stop looking at people above to prop our selves up against.

As this leaves the door open for more bad guys to start fucking with us again.

For this reason I think the real good guys have not come down. And I think they will only ever come down once we have cracked the puzzle our selves, THEN maybe they will come along and share knowledge for us to take forward, once we have passed a test and shown responsibility.

As far as I know Alex C has not released any books, and I'm not sure how many tours he does or what money he makes, it does not seem like he does much on that front which may imply his motives are genuine, But I lean more and more towards him not really having met the beings he claims he has. I may be wrong but I dont think so.

This is our gig, and while ETEs are amazingly interesting for us to think about. our own world and race is our gig. I have not heard any message from a supposed ET, that I have not been able to hear from a good old Human.

lyricusmagna
08-09-2011, 06:26 PM
I don't know yet if "Tolec" is a real contactee or not but if he was a hoaxer why would he give these dates for upcoming, direct ET contact:

"The time line projected for this contact & visitation:

the most accurate date is now projected to be sometime late this summer 2011, approximately mid-late September, continuing through 2012 / 2013, as needed, depending on the pace of their progress in reconnecting with humanity around the globe."

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

If this was the case, I'd be informed at least. Since a few of the supposed "Galactic Federation senior member" cultures are those I contact. Strangely, they have said to me long time ago there is no such thing as GFL or Galactic Federation at all. There's that conflict of testimony right there. And to my knowledge, Alex Collier too, said there is no such thing as Galactic Federation of any sort.

If you ask me, this is the perfect scenario for a calm, slow pace, alien takeover (you say the bad guys are defeated, and that soon there will be "first contact" with humans). Take in consideration that things are getting more worse, instead of better, I think this paves the threshold for such a scenario.

Why would they interfere now? If the bad guys are gone? Why intervene now, and why help us at all? Don't we need to fix things ourselves?

I dunno, we will have to wait and see what happens.

king triad
09-09-2011, 02:21 PM
I don't agree with Tulac that they will land and just hang out with people..It would be a suicide mission and it won't be allowed to happen...The US and powers that be want to steal there technology..no peace treaty's no deals just intergalactic piracy...

driscol
09-09-2011, 02:34 PM
Strange the predictions about September being the month of alien visitation. 1991 Georgy senior talks about a new world order, ten years later to the day is a terrorist attack that allows them to pass a bill that strips citizens of privacy, a fake alien takeover (or perhaps real) wouldn't surprise me, fits the basic timeline the powers that be are working with.

In order to follow this pattern, it has to be this sunday.

driscol
09-09-2011, 02:37 PM
I don't agree with Tulac that they will land and just hang out with people..It would be a suicide mission and it won't be allowed to happen...The US and powers that be want to steal there technology..no peace treaty's no deals just intergalactic piracy...

No offense but that sounds like Michal Bay movie logic. Humans are not vicious animals that kill and steal anything new and interesting. History shows such beings being worshiped as higher powers and very rarely, if ever, discusses the idea of revolution.

IMO our governments fighting these entities (or aliens or whatever term you prefer) would be like dogs trying to revolt at a pound. Maybe a few people get bit, but freedom is never achieved. Only end to that scenario is death or enslavement.

Looking at the actions of the powers that be, it seems they are less interested in smoking cigars and stroking cats over the globe and more interested in mass mind control and blood ritual. Kind of fits in with the idea that they would side with such aliens, if they are not the aliens themselves.

king triad
09-09-2011, 03:55 PM
No offense but that sounds like Michal Bay movie logic. Humans are not vicious animals that kill and steal anything new and interesting. History shows such beings being worshiped as higher powers and very rarely, if ever, discusses the idea of revolution.

IMO our governments fighting these entities (or aliens or whatever term you prefer) would be like dogs trying to revolt at a pound. Maybe a few people get bit, but freedom is never achieved. Only end to that scenario is death or enslavement.

Looking at the actions of the powers that be, it seems they are less interested in smoking cigars and stroking cats over the globe and more interested in mass mind control and blood ritual. Kind of fits in with the idea that they would side with such aliens, if they are not the aliens themselves.

Your Naive to how it works..the CIA and NSA are intergalactic pirates and it's been proven by the grand council..and everyone on the mission to earth..

driscol
09-09-2011, 04:59 PM
Your Naive to how it works..the CIA and NSA are intergalactic pirates and it's been proven by the grand council..and everyone on the mission to earth..

How was this "proven" and how is being critical of unfounded information being naive?

Just a tip, the fact that our government recovers crashed extra dimensional or terrestrial vehicles doesn't prove they are space pirates.

EDIT: Oh wait, that was some kind of Scientology joke wasn't it? You cheeky bastard.

king triad
09-09-2011, 05:29 PM
How was this "proven" and how is being critical of unfounded information being naive?

Just a tip, the fact that our government recovers crashed extra dimensional or terrestrial vehicles doesn't prove they are space pirates.

.

They recover crafts then make it top secret..that's not piracy?...They shoot at UFO's that's not piracy?..trust me they are pirates..yo ho ho and a bottle of rum...

driscol
09-09-2011, 06:17 PM
They recover crafts then make it top secret..that's not piracy?...They shoot at UFO's that's not piracy?..trust me they are pirates..yo ho ho and a bottle of rum...

No salvaging materials is not piracy. People that rob graves are grave robbers, not muggers.

Maybe they do shoot down space crafts but not only do we not have very much proof that this is the standard rule, we don't even know for sure why. Yeah it's easy to say it's to steal material, it's also pretty easy to say it could just be them reacting quickly to a possible threat. If they shoot it down, they are called pirates. If they don't shoot it down and it ends up doing major damage, people accuse them of orchestrating the attack because they could have easily shot it down. "Like a god dang MC Escher paintin, every time you try to go up you end up going down some damn way."
Don't be so naive, as you would say. Things are not as black and white as they seem.

practicaltheorist
11-09-2011, 08:26 AM
I`ve long since stopped discussing wether Alex Collier is "for real" or not. To me, the important thing is the underlying message. Alex Collier is not so much talking about the aliens and the contact itself (apart from describing their appearance, thoughts and technology as part of the experience) but more about what he has gained of knowledge, insight, emotions and how he relates to it all.

To me, the message and the philosophy with which he presents his experiences is far more interesting. He is talking about things in a way that shows a frustration with our way of life today and how we are destroying the planet and corrupting ourselves. He relates this to how someone extra-terrestrial perceives our behavior and that -to me- lends a different perspective to our nature.

Alex always has some interesting angle to see things from and he does a brilliant job of it, simply by being who he is.

For real? Alex is definitely for real. He believes wholeheartedly that he has experienced these things. Thats as "for real" as you can get. Wether he actually DID is not all that interesting to me to be honest.

truth seeker 09
14-09-2011, 12:17 PM
Andromeda Council (Tolec) Update on Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes, 4D Earth

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-update-on-elenin-brown-dwarf-nibiru-earth-changes-4d-earth

Update Part I
Part I - Andromeda Council: Updates on Comet Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes & 4-D Earth - YouTube

Update Part II
Part II - Andromeda Council: Updates on Comet Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes & 4 D Earth - YouTube

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

king triad
15-09-2011, 02:35 PM
Andromeda Council (Tolec) Update on Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes, 4D Earth

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-update-on-elenin-brown-dwarf-nibiru-earth-changes-4d-earth

Update Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGeXb1gfTbE

Update Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S5XL3RVoYY

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

Very interesting...We will know within a month if what Tolec says is true...

truth seeker 09
03-10-2011, 02:43 AM
Andromeda Council: Molecular & Cellular Transformation to a 4D Earth
Andromeda Council - Transformation to a 4th dimensional Earth Life - YouTube
Andromeda Council - Transformation to a 4th dimensional Earth Life - YouTube

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-transformation-to-a-4th-dimensional-earth-life

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

sightingufo
10-10-2011, 01:14 AM
Is it too early to call Tolec a complete fraud or should we wait another week?

truth seeker 09
25-10-2011, 04:40 PM
By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

This is the 4th article in a series of articles on information of the Andromeda Council, a reported galactic governance council composed of selected star system representatives that carry out governance and development functions in a selected areas of our populated and organized galaxy and universe.

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/andromeda-council-11-11-11-the-facts-about-life-as-a-4th-dimensional-human

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

jaychurchforrest
27-10-2011, 06:39 PM
Will need to look at these videos. Sound interesting.

truth seeker 09
31-10-2011, 11:12 AM
The Unicus Radio Hour by Robert Stanley.

"Tolec" makes an appearance also.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2011/10/28/the-unicus-radio-hour

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/...radio-hour.mp3 (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2011/10/28/the-unicus-radio-hour.mp3)

truth seeker 09
31-10-2011, 11:51 AM
The world's first polling place for ET affairs on Earth is now open.

Why does this matter?

The results of this global polling place are being monitored by representatives of the Federation of Free Worlds. According to their laws and ethics, they can not interact and openly assist the people of Earth unless they are invited to do so by a simple majority of us. That is why your vote matters to the future of mankind on Earth. If you want to begin having a relationship with peaceful extraterrestrials please vote accordingly and then forward this link to your friends and family members, or post it on your website.

Source:
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/blog/?p=18

You can vote here:

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/poll.htm

thirdwave
31-10-2011, 12:12 PM
The world's first polling place for ET affairs on Earth is now open.

Why does this matter?

The results of this global polling place are being monitored by representatives of the Federation of Free Worlds. According to their laws and ethics, they can not interact and openly assist the people of Earth unless they are invited to do so by a simple majority of us. That is why your vote matters to the future of mankind on Earth. If you want to begin having a relationship with peaceful extraterrestrials please vote accordingly and then forward this link to your friends and family members, or post it on your website.

Source:
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/blog/?p=18

You can vote here:

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/poll.htm


He was contacted through his life indicating that the ETs where pretty focused and committed to his contact expiances
what would you say His contact has achieved.

truth seeker 09
08-12-2011, 11:27 PM
The Alex Collier Aid Project

UPDATED DECEMBER 1, 2011

Millions of people on planet Earth have heard my friend Alex Collier reporting the good, bad and ugly truth regarding extraterrestrials.

However, most people do not know that Alex paid a price for going public with that information. For the past few years, he has been unable to get work due to his reputation as an “alien conspiracy” theorist. This situation also contributed directly to the destruction of his marriage and family life. He really needs some help right now to get back on his feet.

On December 1, 2011 Alex created a PayPal account to accept funds electronically.

Please send your PayPal (https://www.paypal.com/) donations using this e-mail: Ivanhoe1818@live.com

Or, if you prefer to send a money order please use the address below:

Alex Collier
PO box 795
Morrison, CO 80465


On October 28 of 2011, Alex was a guest on my show (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2011/10/28/the-unicus-radio-hour): The Unicus Radio Hour. At that time, I urged people that know and respect Alex around the world to come to his aid. Although a few people have offered to help… the situation for Alex remains dire. He has been trying to find work for the past few years with no luck. Here is a message I received from him on November 29, 2011:


Bob,
Sleeping in a friend’s pop up trailer with no heat.
Could use any help at all.
Prayers, energy clearing, donation whatever…………
I hope this is the darkness before the dawn, buddy.
I am very, very tired……….


Alex
PO box 795
Morrison, CO 80465

Thank you very much for your support.


Robert M. Stanley


http://www.unicusmagazine.com/blog/?p=43

blackstar76
09-12-2011, 07:34 PM
Thats shitty. Just last year didn;t his whole family go to the tropics courtesy of Protect Calemot.

I don't like to see nobody lose their family. I know he loved them so much.

But for him not getting jobs. Most people can't tell you who Ron Paul is or even Alex Jones. I mean how do they know the Alex Collier name? It is not even his real name. Is it? I doubt the HR knows Alex Collier. David Icke or anyone. If his name ain't Prada or Dolce. I doubt anyone in HR even knows that name.

Also I shall take the childest route and say. Where is his UFO buddies. Mornay and Facashist. Just fill him will evil intel then let him rot in a trailer with no heat. Not too friendly sounding to me. Should we be believing in what they say?

I have always been Alex Collier friendly because he didn't get pay day for anything he said. But maybe he expected pay day but did just not come.

Anyways my heart bleeds for struggling people. Maybe I won't buy presents this year for people and send him a few hundred bucks. Money is getting thin around here and my brain to make more ain't getting any fatter. :)

blackstar76
09-12-2011, 08:07 PM
Been reviewing some modern Alex Collier. Even with MY thinking thats sorts it all out. I do not sense a liar from him. My bullshit meter is senstive. And what he says don't ring a bell within me.

I know his old shit is dead wrong. But still somehow I still trust him. David Wilcox....many others don't ring my heart like Alex.

Remember be open minded. But not so much that your brain falls out of your head.

truth seeker 09
30-12-2011, 11:52 PM
The planned geographic areas of planet Earth that will be visited, in order of priority, are the following:

1. Japan
2. USA
3. Canada
4. Mexico
5. Brazil
6. Argentina
7. UK
8. France
9. Germany
10. Italy
11. European Union
12. Russia
13. China
14. South Korea
15. Indonesia
16. India
17. Turkey
18. Saudi Arabia
19. South Africa
20. Australia

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

truth seeker 09
02-01-2012, 04:55 PM
Ron Paul is in The Fight of His Life, We Must Stand With Him! - YouTube
Ron Paul is in The Fight of His Life, We Must Stand With Him! - YouTube

thirdwave
02-01-2012, 06:58 PM
I voted 50/50 and the more time goes on and I think I would say Im pretty sure he has not met the Aliens he says he has, be it that he is just thinking he has or is being deceptive I don't know but I do not believe it.

And I most certainly do not believe in the Andromeda Council or the Galactic Federation...so on..

I think they are quite deceptive and distract from any real UFO or ETE activity... While I don't know if AC is one of them there are many who just want to make a buck out of peoples desperation for disclosure and more tangible evidence which is hard to come by due the the nature of the phenomena .

Further more, people should be caution about how they view incoming ETs, as History tells us there possible visitation has not always been much of a benefit to all.

Im not saying we should live in fear of them, but we should most certainly not look up to them and reach out to them for help.

truth seeker 09
03-01-2012, 12:17 AM
(The video clip has already 189,311 views but as always, Youtube is censoring the number)

Obama Signs Martial Law Bill: NDAA Now Law - YouTube
Obama Signs Martial Law Bill: NDAA Now Law - YouTube

President Obama who pledged to veto the National Defense Authorization Act has signed it.

Of course his promise was only for public consumption. After all lying to your enemy is what invading corporate takeover army's do.

It was the Obama administration all along that demanded the indefinite detention provisions be added while at the same time telling the America people he was fighting to protect their rights. This is treason on parade, in your face all out despotism!

The Obama Deception - A documentary film by Alex Jones
The Obama Deception HQ Full length version - YouTube
The Obama Deception HQ Full length version - YouTube

truth seeker 09
09-01-2012, 01:21 PM
All Ron Paul's ABC New Hampshire primary debate highlights
All Ron Paul's ABC N.H Primary Debate Highlights - YouTube
All Ron Paul's ABC N.H Primary Debate Highlights - YouTube

All of Ron Paul's responses at the ABC Iowa GOP debate
All Of Ron Paul's Responses At The ABC Iowa GOP Debate - YouTube
All Of Ron Paul's Responses At The ABC Iowa GOP Debate - YouTube

truth seeker 09
09-01-2012, 11:26 PM
"We will soon be launching a new site to coincide with the soon to be released book 'The Adventures of Captain Denar' by Alex Collier.

If you wish to be kept up to date with the latest news and updates please enter your details below and you will be added to our mailing list."

http://zenmountainpublishing.com/

Collier talked about his book on The Unicus Radio Hour (January 5th, 2012)

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/01/06/the-unicus-radio-hour

twilighterheart
10-01-2012, 12:18 AM
"We will soon be launching a new site to coincide with the soon to be released book 'The Adventures of Captain Denar' by Alex Collier.

If you wish to be kept up to date with the latest news and updates please enter your details below and you will be added to our mailing list."

http://zenmountainpublishing.com/

Collier talked about his book on The Unicus Radio Hour (January 5th, 2012)

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/01/06/the-unicus-radio-hour

He should and needs to start charging money. The poor guy deserves it at least. Those aliens are dicks anyways.

truth seeker 09
10-01-2012, 09:22 PM
The Romney Con

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=17231&title=the-romney-con

mjbeliever
14-01-2012, 08:30 PM
Alex Collier is the man! Bless him, as for haters yall need to fall back

kitabatake
14-01-2012, 11:40 PM
He should and needs to start charging money. The poor guy deserves it at least. Those aliens are dicks anyways.



No the Andromedans are not dicks. It may seem that way but their minds are different from ours. They do not understand the concept of money. They can't just give him money either. It's not how they think. Alex is doing what he has to do in this life. All of us are. Alex chose this, he chose to speak, he chose to come out with this information. The Andromedans did not force him to. He could have refused. Collier knew what he was getting into and he does not regret it. We should all be proud of him, those of us who believe him anyways. I believe he is a good man who has seen things that we can only dream of to be honest.

ufochick
15-01-2012, 07:12 AM
Asa I have said before I adore Alex. He has given up sooo much to get information out. I wish him all the best. I don't have a good feeling about this latest andromaden "contact". Tolec I think it is.

It would be interesting if the A's compensated Alex. I can just see him trying to explain to the tax man where the 10 pound chunk of gold came from. LOL.

kitabatake
15-01-2012, 07:26 AM
Asa I have said before I adore Alex. He has given up sooo much to get information out. I wish him all the best. I don't have a good feeling about this latest andromaden "contact". Tolec I think it is.

It would be interesting if the A's compensated Alex. I can just see him trying to explain to the tax man where the 10 pound chunk of gold came from. LOL.


Really? That is interesting. What kind of feeling exactly do you get from that contact?

truth seeker 09
15-01-2012, 01:05 PM
"Rare Disney UFO documentary, this documentary was only broadcast once in five US states, then it was shelved and never broadcast again. This version is the complete uncut feature, recorded to VHS video when it was first broadcast on celestial tv."

Walt Disney UFO Documentary: Full Uncut Version - YouTube
Walt Disney UFO Documentary: Full Uncut Version - YouTube

king triad
15-01-2012, 04:29 PM
Is it too early to call Tolec a complete fraud or should we wait another week?

Tolec is a fraud..he made some pretty bold predictions and none came true..According to Tolec there was supposed to be a second sun by mid October..

ufochick
15-01-2012, 06:07 PM
Really? That is interesting. What kind of feeling exactly do you get from that contact?

I think everything the man says is BS honestly.

kitabatake
16-01-2012, 01:04 AM
I think everything the man says is BS honestly.



Do you think his earlier stuff was legit or do you think he is BS altogether? I have come to respect your opinions here and I am curious as to what you think of him exactly. For my part I have believed what he has said. It's all pretty "out there" but he has never backed down, he has suffered for coming out, and he is very brave. I guess when it comes down to it he is either a disinfo guy or he is telling the truth. Kind of an all or nothing sort of deal. But like I said, I've come to believe him. Of course I take everything with a grain of salt. We won't know what is truly going on big picture wise until it all goes down. I am ready for whatever is coming. :D Or at least I like to think I am.

ufochick
16-01-2012, 10:07 AM
Do you think his earlier stuff was legit or do you think he is BS altogether? I have come to respect your opinions here and I am curious as to what you think of him exactly. For my part I have believed what he has said. It's all pretty "out there" but he has never backed down, he has suffered for coming out, and he is very brave. I guess when it comes down to it he is either a disinfo guy or he is telling the truth. Kind of an all or nothing sort of deal. But like I said, I've come to believe him. Of course I take everything with a grain of salt. We won't know what is truly going on big picture wise until it all goes down. I am ready for whatever is coming. :D Or at least I like to think I am.

I really hate to publically criticise people. ButTtolec isn't a real person. he is just a charactor created by a human to hide behind. He has no physical descriptions of anything andromaden beyond what alex has said, and this check things 3 times just does not jive with me.

He is just very vague, it's a gut feeling as much as anything.The fact that in his interview he got the first 3 visits from the As mixed up was a big flag too. He also had to refer to his notes a few times on basic things like he had to be sure what his story was on "this" or "that". He a;lso kept going back to things like the names of people in stead of giving more info.

It is my opinion he takes the whole thing as a sort of joke or it was done on a dare. There is no depth to him. Plus all his prediction so far have been wrong. If he were for real the A's would have warned him not to broadcast predictions like that, they learned I would assume with Alex and the probability mix up.

mjbeliever
16-01-2012, 04:53 PM
Yeah even though I believe in Alex i dont believe Tolec. im pretty much indifferent about him, i really don't know, but there's something strange about him and i cant figure it out

truth seeker 09
19-01-2012, 03:39 PM
Are you an ET soul / ET wanderer? Take the test Scott Mandelker has for you.

Interview with Scott Mandelker on ET souls (Part 1/6)
Scott Mandelker Pt 1/6 - YouTube
Scott Mandelker Pt 1/6 - YouTube

Are you an ET soul? Take the test here

http://www.scottmandelker.com/Articles/etquiz.html

grace333
20-01-2012, 11:27 PM
I love listening to Alex talk. He's a pretty believable guy. I for one believe him about the existence of Reptilians because I have one. I have a photo of one and have been sitting on this for about 4 yrs now.

This was taken in the dead of winter as he's looking through my skylight after I had a personal encounter with one.
I feel people need to see this, you may believe and you may not, but it's real. 100% I wouldn't be putting it here. I have nothing to gain from this.
The people need to know.

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u502/Reptilian3/PICT0071.jpg

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u502/Reptilian3/PICT0076.jpg

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u502/Reptilian3/PICT0089.jpg

Someone helped me to show people how to spot this, so here is there version...once you find the eye, the rest will follow. The saucer shaped head and neck...even teeth!

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=205dxzc&s=5

truth seeker 09
01-02-2012, 02:53 PM
Baking soda heals cancer?

"When you investigate the roots of the medical and pharmaceutical industries, you will find the name of John D. Rockefeller."

Dr. Leonard Coldwell: ALL Cancer Can Be Cured in Less Than 12 Weeks

"On a recent interview, Dr. Leonard Coldwell claimed that 'all cancer' along with 'all other kinds of immune diseases' are based on emotional and mental stress and can be cured in less than 12 weeks through holistic cancer remedies. In addition, Dr. Coldwell names several cancer-curing treatments that are being suppressed by the medical and pharmaceutical industry, including sodium bicarbonate, apricot kernels, oxygen therapy, rife machines and colloidal silver."

http://holisticcancerresearch.com/dr-coldwell-all-cancer-can-be-cured-in-less-than-12-weeks.html

Documentary film by Massimo Mazzucco: Cancer - The Forbidden Cures

Cancer - The Forbidden Cures - YouTube
Cancer - The Forbidden Cures - YouTube

Proof that the cancer industry doesn’t want a cure – even if it’s a pharmaceutical

A safe and effective cure for cancer has been discovered with a drug that was once used for unusual metabolic problems. Yet, the cancer industry shows no interest with following up on dichloroacetate (DCA) research from University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, reported in 2007. That’s because DCA is no longer patented.

http://www.infowars.com/proof-that-the-cancer-industry-doesnt-want-a-cure-even-if-its-a-pharmaceutical/

twilighterheart
01-02-2012, 07:05 PM
I love listening to Alex talk. He's a pretty believable guy. I for one believe him about the existence of Reptilians because I have one. I have a photo of one and have been sitting on this for about 4 yrs now.

This was taken in the dead of winter as he's looking through my skylight after I had a personal encounter with one.
I feel people need to see this, you may believe and you may not, but it's real. 100% I wouldn't be putting it here. I have nothing to gain from this.
The people need to know.

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u502/Reptilian3/PICT0071.jpg

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u502/Reptilian3/PICT0076.jpg

http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u502/Reptilian3/PICT0089.jpg

Someone helped me to show people how to spot this, so here is there version...once you find the eye, the rest will follow. The saucer shaped head and neck...even teeth!

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=205dxzc&s=5
Get some salt, go outside spread it around the entire house, and find some sage if you can and burn it.

Get off of this subject as soon has possible. They feed off curiosity a lot and I have taken photos like this myself, even had one with a dark figure behind me.

Leave this alone, turn your back on it, and find something much more beneficially to get into.

kitabatake
01-02-2012, 09:08 PM
Are you an ET soul / ET wanderer? Take the test Scott Mandelker has for you.

Interview with Scott Mandelker on ET souls (Part 1/6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pFwN60s8jQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pFwN60s8jQ

Are you an ET soul? Take the test here

http://www.scottmandelker.com/Articles/etquiz.html


I scored 75 on that test. Hmm..

grace333
02-02-2012, 05:19 PM
I scored 75 on that test. Hmm..

Scored a 100

I was surprised to have answered yes to everyone of them, but it's true. (all)

grace333
02-02-2012, 05:22 PM
Get some salt, go outside spread it around the entire house, and find some sage if you can and burn it.

Get off of this subject as soon has possible. They feed off curiosity a lot and I have taken photos like this myself, even had one with a dark figure behind me.

Leave this alone, turn your back on it, and find something much more beneficially to get into.

I do not practice black magic or anything!

I am a good citizen. I am not hear or ever have been looking up stuff about evil or porn or anything of that matter. I am a mother of 3. This has been happening to me since I was a kid. Mostly good things, but the occasional abductions along the way. Once they floated me out of my bed into a room and started drilling something into the top of my head. Next morning I was telling me husband about a "dream" I had and he went to look and there was
a tiny little hole on the top of my head! I know this is happening and I am not afraid in any way. Just want to know what the end plan is for me..

twilighterheart
02-02-2012, 07:25 PM
I do not practice black magic or anything!

I am a good citizen. I am not hear or ever have been looking up stuff about evil or porn or anything of that matter. I am a mother of 3. This has been happening to me since I was a kid. Mostly good things, but the occasional abductions along the way. Once they floated me out of my bed into a room and started drilling something into the top of my head. Next morning I was telling me husband about a "dream" I had and he went to look and there was
a tiny little hole on the top of my head! I know this is happening and I am not afraid in any way. Just want to know what the end plan is for me..

Let's get one thing very clear, I was only posting things I have personally done and it has helped me greatly. You assume being 'good' (a philosophy I personally do not put any value in) is some type of protection from this sort of thing. It is not.

They prey on the weak, being mentally so is like a drug to them. These entities are bound by laws, why do you think they have their human minions over the eons keep the vast majority of humans in a state of weakness, ignorance?

I am personally tired of humans coming at those with knowledge and the will to put out there for the benefit of others with gracelessness.

Calm down, keep your head, and learn either how to ignore it or how to fight them. I would suggestion doing both. Humans are not weak, we only believe it to be so, so it is so.

kitabatake
03-02-2012, 02:27 AM
Let's get one thing very clear, I was only posting things I have personally done and it has helped me greatly. You assume being 'good' (a philosophy I personally do not put any value in) is some type of protection from this sort of thing. It is not.

They prey on the weak, being mentally so is like a drug to them. These entities are bound by laws, why do you think they have their human minions over the eons keep the vast majority of humans in a state of weakness, ignorance?

I am personally tired of humans coming at those with knowledge and the will to put out there for the benefit of others with gracelessness.

Calm down, keep your head, and learn either how to ignore it or how to fight them. I would suggestion doing both. Humans are not weak, we only believe it to be so, so it is so.


Salt is not going to protect you from alien life forms, physical, or otherwise. It's a nice seasoning to scatter all over your roast chicken but seriously? You are making them out to be some kind of pseudo-christian "demon" race. They are entities with free will and civilizations, some of which care nothing for humans, and yes they do love to prey on the weak minded, that I agree with. But really there is little you can do if you are being abducted or visited on a regular basis. You have to train yourself and your abilities to combat the psychological warfare and such that they barrage you with. If you are not worth the trouble, then they will find another specimen. Salt will not do anything.

kitabatake
03-02-2012, 02:30 AM
Baking soda heals cancer?

"When you investigate the roots of the medical and pharmaceutical industries, you will find the name of John D. Rockefeller."

Dr. Leonard Coldwell: ALL Cancer Can Be Cured in Less Than 12 Weeks

"On a recent interview, Dr. Leonard Coldwell claimed that 'all cancer' along with 'all other kinds of immune diseases' are based on emotional and mental stress and can be cured in less than 12 weeks through holistic cancer remedies. In addition, Dr. Coldwell names several cancer-curing treatments that are being suppressed by the medical and pharmaceutical industry, including sodium bicarbonate, apricot kernels, oxygen therapy, rife machines and colloidal silver."

http://holisticcancerresearch.com/dr-coldwell-all-cancer-can-be-cured-in-less-than-12-weeks.html

Documentary film by Massimo Mazzucco: Cancer - The Forbidden Cures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM

Proof that the cancer industry doesn’t want a cure – even if it’s a pharmaceutical

A safe and effective cure for cancer has been discovered with a drug that was once used for unusual metabolic problems. Yet, the cancer industry shows no interest with following up on dichloroacetate (DCA) research from University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, reported in 2007. That’s because DCA is no longer patented.

http://www.infowars.com/proof-that-the-cancer-industry-doesnt-want-a-cure-even-if-its-a-pharmaceutical/


Very good information. I am allergic to silver though. The other treatments sound much better than chemotherapy however. A shame that so few can see through the lies of the medical community.

truth seeker 09
15-02-2012, 06:01 PM
A documentary film by Alex Jones: EndGame - Blueprint for global enslavement

"For the New World Order, a world government is just the beginning. Once in place they can engage their plan to exterminate 80% of the world's population, while enabling the "elites" to live forever with the aid of advanced technology."

Watch the film
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube

The Alex Jones Show: Corporatocracy - The U.N.'s Anti Human Agenda with Author Rosa Koire 1/3
Corporatocracy: The U.N.'s Anti Human Agenda with Author Rosa Koire 1/3 - YouTube

mr_i_disagree
18-02-2012, 03:40 AM
A documentary film by Alex Jones: EndGame - Blueprint for global enslavement

"For the New World Order, a world government is just the beginning. Once in place they can engage their plan to exterminate 80% of the world's population, while enabling the "elites" to live forever with the aid of advanced technology."

Watch the film
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho)

The Alex Jones Show: Corporatocracy - The U.N.'s Anti Human Agenda with Author Rosa Koire 1/3
Corporatocracy: The U.N.'s Anti Human Agenda with Author Rosa Koire 1/3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqgwf3p7gnc)

which time zone is this happening in?
christ i can up with better shit than these, lets try,
real madrid, barcelona and man united might win this weekend.
the grass may still be green.
fuck get over it dude

truth seeker 09
24-02-2012, 01:16 AM
Alex Collier's lectures and interviews including his lecture in January 2010 are shattered around this pretty lenghty thread so I decided to gather them here.

Interview in 1994 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One (01 of 24) - YouTube

Collier shows where the joint alien/human bases are located around the world
Alex Collier - Algunas Bases Extraterrestres y Humanas - YouTube

Lecture in 1995 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two (01 of 24) - YouTube

Lecture in 1996 (At the Ranch)
Alex Collier At The Ranch 1996 - YouTube

Moon & Mars lecture
Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture Part 1 - YouTube

Radio interview in 1998 on Coast To Coast AM with Art Bell
Alex Collier - C2C AM Interview 07-21-98 - 1/9 - YouTube

Interview in 2000 with Paola Harris
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...omedacom_8.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_8.htm)

Interview in 2001
http://gathering-minds.net/2001-zenetae-com

Lecture in 2002 ("Whispers of the past". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
Alex Collier - Conferencia Global Wings 2002 Subs. Español 1/3 - YouTube

Lecture in 2002 ("Defending sacred ground among the stars". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
Alex Collier - Perspectiva Andromedana Sobre la Historia Galáctica (1 / 14) - YouTube

Lecture in 2008
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5726082983985# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2079845726082983985#)

Interview in 2009 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three)
April 9, 2009 NEW Alex Collier Interview (01 of 12) - YouTube

Lecture in 2009 (Project Camelot: Awake & Aware Conference)
ALEX COLLIER at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, Los Angeles, Sept 2009 - YouTube

Lecture in January 2010
Alex Collier Earth Transformation Conference January 2010 part 1 of 9 - YouTube

Collier's FREE online book Defending Sacred Ground
http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf

Letters From Andromeda
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...a/lfa/lfa.html (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/lfa/lfa.html)

Galactic diplomacy.com (Michael Salla)
http://www.galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier.htm

UFO Hypotheses.com (Rick Keefe)
http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm

A social group dedicated to Alex Collier and his information
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group.php?groupid=30

CAN SOMEBODY UPLOAD THIS COLLIER'S LECTURE TO YOUTUBE:

http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=292&pictureid=4730

http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=292&pictureid=4725

You can order the lecture on DVD here (In the catalog the lecture is mistakingly entitled "Alex Christopher"):

August 1996 Denver
G96204: Alex Christopher - The Andromenans – Connection to Our Past

http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/co...l/gblframe.htm (http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/conftapes/global/gblframe.htm)

kitabatake
24-02-2012, 01:25 AM
Alex Collier's lectures and interviews including his lecture in January 2010 are shattered around this pretty lenghty thread so I decided to gather them here.

Interview in 1994 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One (01 of 24) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nnYfxDIXyo)

Lecture in 1995 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two (01 of 24) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XchY4RvU8)

Lecture in 1996 (At the Ranch)
Alex Collier At The Ranch 1996 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV1mrkMWpeg)

Moon & Mars lecture
Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ls7lcturUQ)

Radio interview in 1998 on Coast To Coast AM with Art Bell
Alex Collier - C2C AM Interview 07-21-98 - 1/9 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5_DVhZ6ao)

Interview in 2000 with Paola Harris
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...omedacom_8.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_8.htm)

Interview in 2001
http://gathering-minds.net/2001-zenetae-com

Lecture in 2002 ("Whispers of the past". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
2012 UFO'S ALIENS SECRET EARTH HISTORY Alex Collier - PART 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRATOtRt6D4)

Lecture in 2002 ("Defending sacred ground among the stars". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
Alex Collier - Conferencia Global Wings 2002 Subs. Español 1/3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G_hC40Jusc)

Lecture in 2008
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5726082983985# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2079845726082983985#)

Interview in 2009 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three)
April 9, 2009 NEW Alex Collier Interview (01 of 12) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOYMsUTNfY)

Lecture in 2009 (Project Camelot: Awake & Aware Conference)
ALEX COLLIER at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, Los Angeles, Sept 2009 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR46QjXjLH0)

Lecture in January 2010
Alex Collier Earth Transformation Conference January 2010 part 1 of 9 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ3xuwPb38o)

Collier's FREE online book Defending Sacred Ground
http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf

Letters From Andromeda
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...a/lfa/lfa.html (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/lfa/lfa.html)

Galactic diplomacy.com (Michael Salla)
http://www.galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier.htm

UFO Hypotheses.com (Rick Keefe)
http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm

A social group dedicated to Alex Collier and his information
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group.php?groupid=30


Funny how the only person who calls Collier a fraud is Michael Horn, the self professed spokesman for Billy Meier. I bet Meier would be horrified at how pompous Michael Horn is. LOL. A shame that Meier doesn't go online. Of course he has no need to.

twilighterheart
24-02-2012, 02:18 AM
Salt is not going to protect you from alien life forms, physical, or otherwise. It's a nice seasoning to scatter all over your roast chicken but seriously? You are making them out to be some kind of pseudo-christian "demon" race. They are entities with free will and civilizations, some of which care nothing for humans, and yes they do love to prey on the weak minded, that I agree with. But really there is little you can do if you are being abducted or visited on a regular basis. You have to train yourself and your abilities to combat the psychological warfare and such that they barrage you with. If you are not worth the trouble, then they will find another specimen. Salt will not do anything.

Your message is completely disrespectful, rude and I do not like the tone of it. The history of salt in ritual work:
http://www.saltworks.us/salt_info/si_HistoryOfSalt.asp
History of Salt in Religion

Salt has long held an important place in religion and culture. Greek worshippers consecrated salt in their rituals. Jewish Temple offerings included salt; on the Sabbath, Jews still dip their bread in salt as a remembrance of those sacrifices. In the Old Testament, Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt. Author Sallie Tisdale notes that salt is as free as the water suspending it when it's dissolved, and as immutable as stone when it's dry - a fitting duality for Lot's wife, who overlooks Sodom to this day.

Covenants in both the Old and New Testaments were often sealed with salt: the origin of the word "salvation." In the Catholic Church, salt is or has been used in a variety of purifying rituals. In fact, until Vatican II, a small taste of salt was placed on a baby's lip at his or her baptism. Jesus called his disciples "the Salt of the Earth." In Leonardo DaVinci's famous painting, "The Last Supper," Judas Escariot has just spilled a bowl of salt - a portent of evil and bad luck. To this day, the tradition endures that someone who spills salt should throw a pinch over his left shoulder to ward off any devils that may be lurking behind.

In Buddhist tradition, salt repels evil spirits. That's why it's customary to throw salt over your shoulder before entering your house after a funeral: it scares off any evil spirits that may be clinging to your back.

Shinto religion also uses salt to purify an area. Before sumo wrestlers enter the ring for a match—which is actually an elaborate Shinto rite—a handful of salt is thrown into the center to drive off malevolent spirits.

In the Southwest, the Pueblo worship the Salt Mother. Other native tribes had significant restrictions on who was permitted to eat salt. Hopi legend holds that the angry Warrior Twins punished mankind by placing valuable salt deposits far from civilization, requiring hard work and bravery to harvest the precious mineral.

In 1933, the Dalai Lama was buried sitting up in a bed of salt.

Today, a gift of salt endures in India as a potent symbol of good luck and a reference to Mahatma Gandhi's liberation of India, which included a symbolic walk to the sea to gather tax-free salt for the nation's poor.

kitabatake
24-02-2012, 03:10 AM
Your message is completely disrespectful, rude and I do not like the tone of it. The history of salt in ritual work:
http://www.saltworks.us/salt_info/si_HistoryOfSalt.asp
History of Salt in Religion

Salt has long held an important place in religion and culture. Greek worshippers consecrated salt in their rituals. Jewish Temple offerings included salt; on the Sabbath, Jews still dip their bread in salt as a remembrance of those sacrifices. In the Old Testament, Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt. Author Sallie Tisdale notes that salt is as free as the water suspending it when it's dissolved, and as immutable as stone when it's dry - a fitting duality for Lot's wife, who overlooks Sodom to this day.

Covenants in both the Old and New Testaments were often sealed with salt: the origin of the word "salvation." In the Catholic Church, salt is or has been used in a variety of purifying rituals. In fact, until Vatican II, a small taste of salt was placed on a baby's lip at his or her baptism. Jesus called his disciples "the Salt of the Earth." In Leonardo DaVinci's famous painting, "The Last Supper," Judas Escariot has just spilled a bowl of salt - a portent of evil and bad luck. To this day, the tradition endures that someone who spills salt should throw a pinch over his left shoulder to ward off any devils that may be lurking behind.

In Buddhist tradition, salt repels evil spirits. That's why it's customary to throw salt over your shoulder before entering your house after a funeral: it scares off any evil spirits that may be clinging to your back.

Shinto religion also uses salt to purify an area. Before sumo wrestlers enter the ring for a match—which is actually an elaborate Shinto rite—a handful of salt is thrown into the center to drive off malevolent spirits.

In the Southwest, the Pueblo worship the Salt Mother. Other native tribes had significant restrictions on who was permitted to eat salt. Hopi legend holds that the angry Warrior Twins punished mankind by placing valuable salt deposits far from civilization, requiring hard work and bravery to harvest the precious mineral.

In 1933, the Dalai Lama was buried sitting up in a bed of salt.

Today, a gift of salt endures in India as a potent symbol of good luck and a reference to Mahatma Gandhi's liberation of India, which included a symbolic walk to the sea to gather tax-free salt for the nation's poor.


I do not consider religion to be a credible source when dealing with clearly real entities. There are "nit pick" truths in religion but salt being used against any kind of malevolent ET is beyond laughable. Maybe throw it in a reptilian's eyes to blind him temporarily and run away. Look I am not trying to discredit you as a person, but salt is not going to work. Not unless every single non-human entity in existence has a salt allergy and that is beyond far fetched. I have heard that certain ET groups don't like silver. Reptilians especially. Personally I think that idea was ripped out of a horror movie but.. yeah. My point is that just because salt is seen as a magical defense against magical demons does not mean that it is going to work against a flesh and blood ET. Completely different "worlds" here. No pun intended of course. Personally the only ET I find to be even remotely malevolent would be reptilians. None of the others are devouring human beings. When you test your theory against one of them, let us know. ;)

twilighterheart
24-02-2012, 03:42 AM
I do not consider religion to be a credible source when dealing with clearly real entities. There are "nit pick" truths in religion but salt being used against any kind of malevolent ET is beyond laughable. Maybe throw it in a reptilian's eyes to blind him temporarily and run away. Look I am not trying to discredit you as a person, but salt is not going to work. Not unless every single non-human entity in existence has a salt allergy and that is beyond far fetched. I have heard that certain ET groups don't like silver. Reptilians especially. Personally I think that idea was ripped out of a horror movie but.. yeah. My point is that just because salt is seen as a magical defense against magical demons does not mean that it is going to work against a flesh and blood ET. Completely different "worlds" here. No pun intended of course. Personally the only ET I find to be even remotely malevolent would be reptilians. None of the others are devouring human beings. When you test your theory against one of them, let us know. ;)

F*ck you.

kitabatake
24-02-2012, 04:03 AM
F*ck you.

Well then. I guess we are done. :)

truth seeker 09
05-03-2012, 05:02 PM
2 new Alex Collier interviews made in 2012

About 1 month ago
http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/shinydemise/entrevista_a_alex_collier

3 days ago
http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/shinydemise/alex_collier_interview_statement

chockimon
12-03-2012, 10:31 AM
Alex Collier (Ralph Amagran) is a con artist. He claims he's met with Aliens and even the Galactic Federation. All these experiences with various Aliens and yet no proof or evidence to back it up. Some memorabilia such as an Intergalactic Federation badge or even a leaflet would be sufficient, yet he offers no evidence whatsoever to back up his claims, only his word which isn't exactly credulous to begin with. I also don't even need to mention all of his failed predictions. Lets face it, you'd have to be pretty naive and gullible to believe this nonsense wholeheartedly.

truth seeker 09
14-03-2012, 11:22 AM
When are the people from the four (4) affiliated Andromeda Council planets expected to visit with the people of Earth?

ANSWER: They are still scheduled to do this sometime this Spring 2012, at least as referenced by the standards of seasons in the northern hemisphere of planet Earth. They should be doing this sometime soon after the final Draco & Hydra Reptilian undersea base is taken out and destoryed. This is their top priority effort at this time.

http://andromedacouncil.com/page05.html

The planned geographic areas of planet Earth that will be visited, in order of priority, are the following:

1. Japan
2. USA
3. Canada
4. Mexico
5. Brazil
6. Argentina
7. UK
8. France
9. Germany
10. Italy
11. European Union
12. Russia
13. China
14. South Korea
15. Indonesia
16. India
17. Turkey
18. Saudi Arabia
19. South Africa
20. Australia

note: due to the severity of the damage from the earthquakes & radiation leakage, contact with Japan will be pushed forward into the future at least 6 months. Therefore, contact with the USA will now happen first, in terms of priority.

http://andromedacouncil.com/Contact.html

consciousness
14-03-2012, 11:37 AM
so, the higher the priority, the more troubled the country ?

consciousness
14-03-2012, 11:22 PM
Been listening to Tolec from the Andromedan Council, he really sounds like a sincere person.

Tolec with Lisa Harrison - Andromedan Council contactee - YouTube

Tolec 2nd Interview with Lisa Harrison - YouTube

consciousness
14-03-2012, 11:23 PM
this is good stuff !! :)

thirdwave
14-03-2012, 11:42 PM
Alex Collier (Ralph Amagran) is a con artist. He claims he's met with Aliens and even the Galactic Federation. All these experiences with various Aliens and yet no proof or evidence to back it up. Some memorabilia such as an Intergalactic Federation badge or even a leaflet would be sufficient, yet he offers no evidence whatsoever to back up his claims, only his word which isn't exactly credulous to begin with. I also don't even need to mention all of his failed predictions. Lets face it, you'd have to be pretty naive and gullible to believe this nonsense wholeheartedly. While I believe in Ets, good and bad, I just look at these people and wonder what these visits have done?, nothing he has said or told us has not been said before by intelligent and spiritual humans.. and what is the point of his visits?, they know people will not believe him... or the vast majority...

I think self serving ETs have been interacting and probably still are interacting with us for a very very long time.

and I think any good ETs are having to wait till we grow up before they can offer to lend us some support....

I am also open to a degree of channeling, although I think %95 of it out there
is just either fraud or people getting carried away with them selves.

We need to learn how to unlock human potential before we start looking up to ETs.

chockimon
15-03-2012, 07:57 PM
I agree, but if there really is bad ass Aliens sitting on our door step, then it would be nice if these good Aliens told us so. How exactly can you even begin to win a war, when you don't even know you're in one, or even know who the enemy is.

I think most believers are expecting these Aliens to come down and solve all of our problems for us and I just can't see that happening. Who would be crazy enough to babysit humanity. I would love to see disclosure, after all I've been waiting for the last 30 years, but I can't see it happening for at least another 100 years. Unfortunately I'll be long gone by then. :(

whale
18-03-2012, 05:50 AM
Alex Collier: A Complicated Life of a Contactee Messenger http://formerwhitehat.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/alex-collier-a-complicated-life-of-a-contactee-messenger/

Alex Collier — not his “true name” — is the real deal; his history is complicated.

He was an undercover FBI agent, a sort of real-life Fox Mulder investigating human mutiliations that at first he thought was a serial killer, then led to a reptilian base. The truth of this was too much to comprehend and he bad a nervous breakdown. He was mind-wiped. given a new personality, and placed in a job with the IRS. His do-gooder personality points were still intact and he went against IRS Code of Procedures which landed him in a Federal Prison. In lock-up, the Cabal determined he could be used as a disinfo agent; they reprogrammed him to believe that he had been contacted by “benevolent” grays and reptilians, to tell the public that all ETs were kind and wanted to help humanity, the same sort of lie Steven Greer, also a lizard boy, spout off. Well, he was dealing with grays and lizards, but they were feeding him b.s.

The thing is, Alex Collier is a vessel for an Andromedan soul.

The Andromeda Coucil picked him up after his release from prison. They opened up his memories of who he really was, his previous life as an Andromedan, and what his mission entailed on earth. He was reluctant, and still is, knowing the price he would have to pay, and has paid. The Cabal has attempted to clone him but the Council has terminated all clones that were sent out. The Cabal has messed with him emotionally and financially.

You must listen to the heart of his message, move away from the whole ET thing: find your power within, stand up and fight the evil, don’t wait and believe the benevolent ETs will fix everything; they will help, and are helping, and are in battles in space, but you must find your path of strength. Also, family is important, very important: your earth family and your family among the stars.

truth seeker 09
18-03-2012, 08:39 AM
Alex Jones: Blueprint of Madmen (40 min)

The following documentary from Alex Jones (Infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com/)) details the various aspects of the behind-the-scenes plans of what many have dubbed the New World Order. In Blueprint of Madmen Jones explores everything from anti-terror legislation in the United States to restrictive global food production and distribution by the elite as a means of controlling the populations of entire nations.

The elite psychopathic rulers, along with their technocratic Renfield minions, are pursuing a transhumanist vision where they seek to become gods while the masses of humanity are sacrificed in the name of saving the earth, all while risking our very planet in their destructive experimentation.

http://www.infowars.com/democide-government-killed-over-260-million-in-the-20th-century-poised-to-kill-billions-more-in-the-21st/

New World Order: Blueprint of Madmen - YouTube

truth seeker 09
18-03-2012, 09:19 AM
Alex Collier had a new interview in March 2012.

Collier's lectures and interviews are shattered around this pretty lenghty thread so I decided to gather them here.

Interview in 1994 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume One (01 of 24) - YouTube

Collier shows where the joint alien/human bases are located around the world
Alex Collier - Algunas Bases Extraterrestres y Humanas - YouTube

Lecture in 1995 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two)
UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Two (01 of 24) - YouTube

Lecture in 1996 (At the Ranch)
Alex Collier At The Ranch 1996 - YouTube

Moon & Mars lecture
Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture Part 1 - YouTube

Radio interview in 1998 on Coast To Coast AM with Art Bell
Alex Collier - C2C AM Interview 07-21-98 - 1/9 - YouTube

Interview in 2000 with Paola Harris
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...omedacom_8.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_8.htm)

Interview in 2001
http://gathering-minds.net/2001-zenetae-com

Lecture in 2002 ("Whispers of the past". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
Alex Collier - Conferencia Global Wings 2002 Subs. Español 1/3 - YouTube

Lecture in 2002 ("Defending sacred ground among the stars". Collier shares the stage with Mike Russ)
Alex Collier - Perspectiva Andromedana Sobre la Historia Galáctica (1 / 14) - YouTube

Lecture in 2008
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5726082983985# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2079845726082983985#)

Interview in 2009 (UFO Hypotheses - Alex Collier Volume Three)
April 9, 2009 NEW Alex Collier Interview (01 of 12) - YouTube

Lecture in 2009 (Project Camelot: Awake & Aware Conference)
ALEX COLLIER at the Project Camelot Awake and Aware Conference, Los Angeles, Sept 2009 - YouTube

Lecture in January 2010
Alex Collier Earth Transformation Conference January 2010 part 1 of 9 - YouTube

Interview in March 2012
Entrevista Alex Collier 3 Marzo 2012 1-4 ESP SUBS - YouTube

Collier's FREE online book Defending Sacred Ground
http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf

Letters From Andromeda
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...a/lfa/lfa.html (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/lfa/lfa.html)

Galactic diplomacy.com (Michael Salla)
http://www.galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier.htm

UFO Hypotheses.com (Rick Keefe)
http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm

A social group dedicated to Alex Collier and his information
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/group.php?groupid=30

CAN SOMEBODY UPLOAD THIS COLLIER'S LECTURE TO YOUTUBE:

http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=292&pictureid=4730

http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=292&pictureid=4725

You can order the lecture on DVD here (In the catalog the lecture is mistakingly entitled "Alex Christopher"):

August 1996 Denver
G96204: Alex Christopher - The Andromenans – Connection to Our Past

http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/co...l/gblframe.htm (http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/conftapes/global/gblframe.htm)

truth seeker 09
18-03-2012, 01:07 PM
Smart Meters - YouTube

The Dark Side of 'Smart' Meters - YouTube

truth seeker 09
21-03-2012, 09:24 PM
"Tolec" who claims to be a contactee with the Andromeda Council gave this update:

Notice: 03.21.12 The completion of the next actionable event taken by the people of Procyon w/in the Andromeda Council is likely to be marked by a very large energy ball, a lighted sphere...which many people call an "orb"... within the next few days. It should be visible from a coastline. For those people who are interested in or aware of such things - it can be considered a "marker", an "indicator", or a "sign".

http://andromedacouncil.com/page05.html

truth seeker 09
10-04-2012, 11:50 AM
Three "new" videos with Alex Collier:

1) Alex Collier - 2007 Earth Transformation Conference Japan
Alex Collier - Earth Transformation Japan on Vimeo
Alex Collier - Earth Transformation Japan 2007 - YouTube

2) Panel Discussion - 2007 Earth Transformation Conference Japan

Panel Discussion with Alex Collier, Dr Michael Salla, Col Wendell Stevens, Hector Palacios and Angelika Whitecliff at the Earth Transformation Japan Tour in 2007 in Makuhari, Tokyo.
Panel Discussion - Earth Transformation Japan Tour on Vimeo

3) Panel Discussion - 2010 Earth Transformation Conference Hawaii

Panel Discussion responding to audience Q & A: Conference Presenters include Alex Collier, Dennis Adams, Klaus Dona, Mellen-Thomas Benedict, Carla Rueckert, Prof Stefan Breccia, Haleaka, Dr Michael Salla, Sterling Allan, Billie Dean (Film director) and Suzanne Taylor (Film Director)
Speaker Panel Discussion - Q&A on Vimeo

jamesharkin
18-04-2012, 04:38 PM
I created an Alex Collier site out of respect for his work. It has all of his content, latest interviews, videos and articles. Basically, the visitors let me know of any new videos or content is available and I put it up. http://www.alexcollier.org

thirdwave
18-04-2012, 05:05 PM
I agree, but if there really is bad ass Aliens sitting on our door step, then it would be nice if these good Aliens told us so. How exactly can you even begin to win a war, when you don't even know you're in one, or even know who the enemy is.

I think most believers are expecting these Aliens to come down and solve all of our problems for us and I just can't see that happening. Who would be crazy enough to babysit humanity. I would love to see disclosure, after all I've been waiting for the last 30 years, but I can't see it happening for at least another 100 years. Unfortunately I'll be long gone by then. :(

This is tricky...

if good guys are up there I think their job is far harder than some think..

first of all it the threat from the "bad guys" .. second of all the threat from out leaders who may well have weaponized space and also have a firm hold on the masses minds..

thirdly, they are aware than as a species we are not united and they would not receive complete support.. some would see them as satan, some savior, some this and that...

i think any good guys may help from a distance but will need to see drastic change on this planet before they help ..

also just looking at it as good guys and bad guys wont cut it as the chances are there are a vast amount up there.. if there is a planet full of people who have been controlled by aliens and are happy ignorant, then I think its a massive task to help. Its not as if Humans are at war with them and asking them to leave.. most are happy being their slaves.

truth seeker 09
23-05-2012, 04:21 PM
The following text is taken from http://www.alexcollier.org/

I received a message from a Facebook contact today including an email message from Alex Collier:

“Things are dire and I sold my computer 8 days ago to buy food. At some point I will hit bottom and then there is only way to go, and thats up. I have not heard from the A’s since March……..its very quiet. Too quiet in fact.”

So if you are able to donate anything to Alex Collier he would very much appreciate it:

You can send a money order to:

Alex Collier
PO Box 795
Morrison, CO 80465
USA

Or donate to his PayPal account (which I have heard he can access via a local Internet cafe)

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=ne6HBWjlo6mZSNNOlfaLst_Wrnmdl_k97wOX1ACAi5 5YKln1-5B4zdHZJFO&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d0288a7fd2 903afb85a5540fd44243d03

If, like many of us, you have nothing available to donate, maybe you could help him with your time or could just send him a message of positive energy to his emails (or send him a letter to the PO Box above), it would also be appreciated.

http://www.alexcollier.org/

truth seeker 09
18-06-2012, 11:33 AM
Bump

king triad
18-06-2012, 01:27 PM
Bump

You add so much to the conversation..lol bump is all you ever say..what is Alex begging again?..it's so unbecoming of him..

mjbeliever
18-06-2012, 11:32 PM
nothing hasn't happen yet:confused:

the_ohmbudsman
19-06-2012, 01:00 AM
Good question ..... does anybody know ??

Yes I've heard the story about him predicting 911 ..... then I watched the actual video ..... and it was nothing more than a vague and passing comment ..... he didn't predict it at all !!

Come on, apparently his Alien buddies (who can also time-travel!) told him all this ..... either the Aliens are liars or he is !!

He made many predictions all the way through the 2 hour lecture, however right at the end he read out a list of things that should have taken place by 2004 ..... like ET contact from 9 different races, free energy, discovery of a hollow earth city and Atlantis etc ..... :rolleyes::D:p

Check it out - from 1.46:00 onwards

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8128807323426058322


Didn't he say in one of his video's that the pyramids are weights to change the earth's spin?

the_ohmbudsman
19-06-2012, 09:30 AM
After a nights sleep it occured to me that if the Pyramids were weights to balance the planet - then surely cities like London and New York etc would put the planet out of balance as the weight would upset the balance of the earth!

infinityandlove
19-06-2012, 09:33 AM
As far as i know, the pyramids and other ancient structures are compass points to navigate on the earth.

truth seeker 09
03-07-2012, 12:04 AM
Alex Collier: The Adventures of Captain Denar

"We will soon be launching a new site to coincide with the soon to be released book 'The Adventures of Captain Denar' by Alex Collier. If you wish to be kept up to date with the latest news and updates please enter your details below and you will be added to our mailing list."

http://www.zenmountainpublishing.com/

chockimon
06-07-2012, 03:21 PM
This is tricky...

if good guys are up there I think their job is far harder than some think..

first of all it the threat from the "bad guys" .. second of all the threat from out leaders who may well have weaponized space and also have a firm hold on the masses minds..

thirdly, they are aware than as a species we are not united and they would not receive complete support.. some would see them as satan, some savior, some this and that...

i think any good guys may help from a distance but will need to see drastic change on this planet before they help ..

also just looking at it as good guys and bad guys wont cut it as the chances are there are a vast amount up there.. if there is a planet full of people who have been controlled by aliens and are happy ignorant, then I think its a massive task to help. Its not as if Humans are at war with them and asking them to leave.. most are happy being their slaves.

If Aliens have the tech to travel hundreds of light years. It's safe to say that technologically they are light years ahead of anything we can up with and therefore we are no threat to them whatsoever.

If they are benevolent then why would they seek out the US government, who are by all extents and purposes, the most warmongering and corrupt government on Earth. Why not Canada or one of the Scandinavian countries. If these Aliens exist and they are here without revealing themselves, then they are evil, probably why the American gov is only too happy to get into bed with them. America does nothing unless it's in it's own best interests. They are a typical capitalist imperialist government who doesn't give a s### about anyone but themselves and would gladly sell humanity down the s###hole in exchange for technology which would allow them to take over the world.

ufochick
06-07-2012, 03:34 PM
If Aliens have the tech to travel hundreds of light years. It's safe to say that technologically they are light years ahead of anything we can up with and therefore we are no threat to them whatsoever.

If they are benevolent then why would they seek out the US government, who are by all extents and purposes, the most warmongering and corrupt government on Earth. Why not Canada or one of the Scandinavian countries. If these Aliens exist and they are here without revealing themselves, then they are evil, probably why the American gov is only too happy to get into bed with them. America does nothing unless it's in it's own best interests. They are a typical capitalist imperialist government who doesn't give a s### about anyone but themselves and would gladly sell humanity down the s###hole in exchange for technology which would allow them to take over the world.


Looks like your goldfish bowl is only facing one way. Most of the governments on this litle planet of ours are badly ruled and would willingly get into bed with any species that promised power.
You can point fingers all you want but the us is not alone in it's governments behavior.
Alex has made any money from his contact, so what exactly is he milking? His "coming out" has only caused him pain.

ufochick
06-07-2012, 08:38 PM
Some people simply want to share what they have experienced with others. Alex could have made a lot of money off his stuff and chose not too. The donation thing is just this year. The cabal can make things quite difficult.

So many people who point fingers and get off on judging, guess they think they are above reproach. I love the ones who have not spent any time working who then jump on people who have worked hard day in and day out for years at some shit job to support their families. Oh ya asking for a donation is a sin. Sheesh.....

Hope you always have momma and daddy, the dole or that job you think is so secure. Just remember these statements you have made because at some point you may need some help.

chockimon
08-07-2012, 12:44 AM
and some people simply want to share what they have experienced with others. Alex could have made a lot of money off his stuff and chose not too. The donation thing is just this year. The cabal can make things quite difficult.

So many people who point fingers and get off on judging, guess they think they are above reproach. I love the ones who have not spent any time working who then jump on people who have worked hard day in and day out for years at some shit job to support their families. Oh ya asking for a donation is a sin. Sheesh.....

Hope you always have momma and daddy, the dole or that job you think is so secure. Just remember these statements you have made because at some point you may need some help.

Now whose judging. Try working as a labourer, getting up a 5.30am every morning and doing hard manual labour in freezing, cold conditions until 6.30pm at night, 7 days a week. I know what hard work is.

ufochick
09-07-2012, 04:01 AM
Now whose judging. Try working as a labourer, getting up a 5.30am every morning and doing hard manual labour in freezing, cold conditions until 6.30pm at night, 7 days a week. I know what hard work is.


Mosty of the people who have really experienced stuff are just normal people. The ones who make it a cottage industry I wonder about, but whatever works for them. I would never charge someone money for information. But if I ever needed help I would sure as hell ask.

Don't be sure that job will last and you will NEVER be in a position to ask for help. never say never. I mentioned those wh jobs in my post.

I have always had an open door and open pantry. If someone I care about needs a place to live my house is open, they need food, they can take it from my pantry, they need money, if I have it I will give it (not loan it). because of this i can't see a situation in which I will be homeless, hungry or pennyless.

There is no shame in asking for help, there is only shame in refusing help when you can give it and taking advantage of people. Alex is doing neither.

jamesharkin
09-07-2012, 08:05 AM
I just received the latest Alex Collier radio interview from 8th July 2012. I uploaded it straight to my YouTube account. Enjoy :)

Alex Collier - Radio Interview - 8th July 2012 - YouTube

Please also check out the site I made to help Alex Collier, it has everything that he has created (that I could find online & that others sent me): www.alexcollier.org

thirdwave
09-07-2012, 10:20 AM
If Aliens have the tech to travel hundreds of light years. It's safe to say that technologically they are light years ahead of anything we can up with and therefore we are no threat to them whatsoever.

If they are benevolent then why would they seek out the US government, who are by all extents and purposes, the most warmongering and corrupt government on Earth. Why not Canada or one of the Scandinavian countries. If these Aliens exist and they are here without revealing themselves, then they are evil, probably why the American gov is only too happy to get into bed with them. America does nothing unless it's in it's own best interests. They are a typical capitalist imperialist government who doesn't give a s### about anyone but themselves and would gladly sell humanity down the s###hole in exchange for technology which would allow them to take over the world.

As for Alex Collier, he's just another con artist out to milk the naive and gullible. I've already debunked his theory about the moon on another thread, but unfortunately conspiracy theorists are not interested in the truth, but will happily buy into BS, simply because it's exciting to believe in such nonsense. :rolleyes:

But does Collier have a book out or DVD?, its not easy making a living via lectures.. and even those he does very little of.

Regarding ETs contacting the USA..

I dont think it is just the USA that has had contact. Russia and other countries also seem to be hiding something.

But yes good ETs would not get much job with the PTB, but thats not to say they have not tried. They may know where the power is and how much control it has over the planet. So trying would have been on the cards. But once you know the powers of the world are not interested in bring truth to the planet.. then where do you go?, you wait, and should the whole thing collapse you maybe chip in then... or you wait for people here to wake up and detach them selves from the powers of the world.

As for the bad guys, what better place to go than a war mongering lot who are motivated by control and power and have the planet in their hands?

chockimon
09-07-2012, 11:12 AM
Ralph Amigron aka con artist Alex Collier.
http://www.alexcollier.org/con-artist-or-andromedan-detractors-on-alex-collier/

Failed predictions.

Alex Collier Previous Negative Predictions.

Alex Collier in 1995: "There is a possibility that a part of Japan will sink. It will not be an accident. It will be created by the World Government."

The Year of the Turning Point: 1998
Alex: Yes. It's going to be wild. I think by this time in 1998, January 1998, we are either going to be coming together as a group of people, or we are going to be preparing for civil war, and I just don't know which way it is going to go yet."

Probable Events That Might Be Happening In the Next Few Years

"Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake.

Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit. The reason for this is that there are regressive energies on the moon. They just might have to "pay back some karma".

Between 2003 and 2007, the benevolent races are supposedly going to be all around us. We will see them, but they will not interfere. The Andromedan Council, a group of representatives from 143 planetary systems, made a declaration that by August 12, 2003 all extraterrestrial presence, both good and bad, off our planet. They want to see how we interact with each other when we are not being manipulated. It's a test, and they have every intention on carrying it out. It's going to be interesting.

Between 2004 and 2007, all the DNA coding which involves all the racial memory from the 22 races will begin to unlock.

By 2007, everyone will have full memory of who they are, who they were, and where they come from. A lot of this has to do with the implosion of third density pulling us up into higher densities.

Between 2007 and 2012, we are supposed to see the birth of a brand new galaxy in the area of the sky known as Vega, just before we move into fifth density. Now, they time travel so they already know its there.

Between 2007 and 2009, if it is allowed to happen naturally, we are supposed to have a 17 degree pole shift. The area of Saudi Arabia is supposed to become the new North Pole, so we have no choice but to go to free energy. North America is supposed to end up on the equator.

By the year 2003, you are going to hear more reports about "ghosts", because what is happening is that the new frequency is raising the vibration of the planet, and third and fourth density will come closer and closer together as third density starts to implode. This means that the molecules in our bodies are going to 'speed up', because the body is not dead matter, and you are going to start to see on more of a spirit level. We are going to have to become more responsible in the exercise of our free will as the earth changes start. People living along the coastal areas are going to have a problem, as the oceans could rise as much as 200 feet by the year 2008.

Around 2011, our sun will undergo a 180 degree pole shift.

During the next seven years, between 1996 and 2004, the major cities in the United States will be under quarantine because of the spread of tuberculosis. The average life expectancy of men in the inner cities will be 43 years of age, and for women 55. You are going to see the end of welfare, free medical and county services, because everybody will be bankrupt. Many people will be moving to communities outside the cities, growing food and having their own private police forces."

:rolleyes:

thirdwave
09-07-2012, 11:17 AM
Ralph Amigron aka con artist Alex Collier.
http://www.alexcollier.org/con-artist-or-andromedan-detractors-on-alex-collier/

Failed predictions.

Alex Collier Previous Negative Predictions.

Alex Collier in 1995: "There is a possibility that a part of Japan will sink. It will not be an accident. It will be created by the World Government."

The Year of the Turning Point: 1998
Alex: Yes. It's going to be wild. I think by this time in 1998, January 1998, we are either going to be coming together as a group of people, or we are going to be preparing for civil war, and I just don't know which way it is going to go yet."

Probable Events That Might Be Happening In the Next Few Years

"Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake.

Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit. The reason for this is that there are regressive energies on the moon. They just might have to "pay back some karma".

Between 2003 and 2007, the benevolent races are supposedly going to be all around us. We will see them, but they will not interfere. The Andromedan Council, a group of representatives from 143 planetary systems, made a declaration that by August 12, 2003 all extraterrestrial presence, both good and bad, off our planet. They want to see how we interact with each other when we are not being manipulated. It's a test, and they have every intention on carrying it out. It's going to be interesting.

Between 2004 and 2007, all the DNA coding which involves all the racial memory from the 22 races will begin to unlock.

By 2007, everyone will have full memory of who they are, who they were, and where they come from. A lot of this has to do with the implosion of third density pulling us up into higher densities.

Between 2007 and 2012, we are supposed to see the birth of a brand new galaxy in the area of the sky known as Vega, just before we move into fifth density. Now, they time travel so they already know its there.

Between 2007 and 2009, if it is allowed to happen naturally, we are supposed to have a 17 degree pole shift. The area of Saudi Arabia is supposed to become the new North Pole, so we have no choice but to go to free energy. North America is supposed to end up on the equator.

By the year 2003, you are going to hear more reports about "ghosts", because what is happening is that the new frequency is raising the vibration of the planet, and third and fourth density will come closer and closer together as third density starts to implode. This means that the molecules in our bodies are going to 'speed up', because the body is not dead matter, and you are going to start to see on more of a spirit level. We are going to have to become more responsible in the exercise of our free will as the earth changes start. People living along the coastal areas are going to have a problem, as the oceans could rise as much as 200 feet by the year 2008.

Around 2011, our sun will undergo a 180 degree pole shift.

During the next seven years, between 1996 and 2004, the major cities in the United States will be under quarantine because of the spread of tuberculosis. The average life expectancy of men in the inner cities will be 43 years of age, and for women 55. You are going to see the end of welfare, free medical and county services, because everybody will be bankrupt. Many people will be moving to communities outside the cities, growing food and having their own private police forces."

:rolleyes:

Being wrong and a fraud are two different things..

king triad
09-07-2012, 12:39 PM
Being wrong and a fraud are two different things..

After making all those failed predictions how can you not call fraud?...what's amazing is that it's 2012 and we are still talking about him..let it go..

thirdwave
09-07-2012, 04:16 PM
After making all those failed predictions how can you not call fraud?...

eerr, was that a serious question?

and actually he was pretty close with the Japan thing..

truth seeker 09
09-07-2012, 07:01 PM
Alex Collier explains why many of the possible future events he was talking about did not happen:

Watch the interview 0:52:20 onwards

Alex Collier 14 Years After The Ground Breaking 1994 Interview - YouTube

severa
10-07-2012, 12:03 AM
i dunno. i'm mixed on him. i know many buddhist monks tell of ET's and how they speak with them and receive prophecies from them. most buddhist monks and nuns keep their abilities hush hush though and don't announce things to the world. so i do believe in ET's and other intelligent life. i think it's egotistical to not think so. but as for alex collier, well, his message is a beautiful one (from what i remember listening to a couple years ago on youtube). can't say i believe him totally. even though he's not a "fraud" in the sense of taking money from people in order to preach his message, he can still be a fraud in the sense that he receives a lot of attention from this and feels important. and to a mentally ill person that's all they want, really. they don't care about money, they care about making others see their reality.

chockimon
19-07-2012, 06:12 PM
+10 true!

jackdaw
21-07-2012, 01:00 AM
Alex Collier explains why many of the possible future events he was talking about did not happen:

Explains? Hardly. Anyone gullible enough to accept a string of failed predictions and then the explanation that the prophecies were just 'possibles' or 'probables' :rolleyes: needs help with an exit strategy.

But some people are desperate to follow an individual, others to belong to a religion or cult, and to blindly follow without question.

thirdwave
21-07-2012, 01:40 AM
I voted not sure with this one, although now, while I am an ET/UFO believer I do not believe Alex has had relations with ETs.

ozpixie
21-07-2012, 02:58 AM
Mosty of the people who have really experienced stuff are just normal people. The ones who make it a cottage industry I wonder about, but whatever works for them. I would never charge someone money for information. But if I ever needed help I would sure as hell ask.

Don't be sure that job will last and you will NEVER be in a position to ask for help. never say never. I mentioned those wh jobs in my post.

I have always had an open door and open pantry. If someone I care about needs a place to live my house is open, they need food, they can take it from my pantry, they need money, if I have it I will give it (not loan it). because of this i can't see a situation in which I will be homeless, hungry or pennyless.

There is no shame in asking for help, there is only shame in refusing help when you can give it and taking advantage of people. Alex is doing neither.

Spot on.

truth seeker 09
15-08-2012, 05:22 PM
"The Adventures of Captain Denar" - Story by Alex Collier

Synopsis: Having discovered the knowledge of the Pataal, the founders of our universe, Captain Denar is being hunted by regressive races. The worst is the Ciakar, an ancient civilization of reptilians. As Denar and his crew of Black Leaguers protect our home solar systems from threats of invasion, help comes from an unexpected alliance. This alliance causes a change in dimensional frequency, and pushes humanity to make an evolutionary leap into the next dimension.

http://www.captaindenar.com

We will soon be launching a new site to coincide with the soon to be released book 'The Adventures of Captain Denar' by Alex Collier.

http://zenmountainpublishing.com/

lyricusmagna
20-08-2012, 10:09 PM
Is there any more news on his well-being? Does he at least have a roof over his head now?

deca
20-08-2012, 10:51 PM
115 ...36% of you people on here actually believe this shit?????:eek:
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[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-1.avi - YouTube

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deca
21-08-2012, 12:04 AM
again I have no problem with people looking into UFO/researching for Alien life

also i have no problem with people finding their spirituality

it's this mash of UFO/alien/spirituality that I do ....it's not ufology , it's not spirituality ...it's just a magnet for people in search of meaning in their life...

So I think you need to be clear are you generally looking at the ALien/phenomena or are you searching for some spirituality meaning ?

  

my_life
21-08-2012, 12:41 AM
again I have no problem with people looking into UFO/researching for Alien life

also i have no problem with people finding their spirituality

it's this mash of UFO/alien/spirituality that I do ....it's not ufology , it's not spirituality ...it's just a magnet for people in search of meaning in their life...

So I think you need to be clear are you generally looking at the ALien/phenomena or are you searching for some spirituality meaning ?

  

I'm not saying I necessarily believe this stuff either. I don't care what people are searching for.

That's them, not me. Who am I (or you) to 'have a problem' with it? People may say you're paranoid about all that electronic harassment, micro chipping, etc. and that it's all in your head (no pun intended). :D

Who cares? I don't. :rolleyes:

deca
21-08-2012, 01:03 AM
I hate people being abused,used & manipulated

plus I believe the internet is an ideal platform for these "thought reform programs"


http://www.rickross.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing21.html

What is a thought reform program?

In essence, a thought reform program is a behavioral change technology applied to cause the learning and adoption of an ideology or set of behaviors under conditions. It is distinguished from other forms of social learning by the conditions under which it is conducted and by the techniques of environmental and interpersonal manipulation employed to suppress particular behavior and to train others .

Six conditions are simultaneously present in a thought reform program:

obtaining substantial control over an individual's time and thought content, typically by gaining control over major elements of the person's social and physical environment,

systematically creating a sense of powerlessness in the person,

manipulating a system of rewards, punishment. and experiences in such a way as to promote new learning of an ideology or belief system advocated by management,

manipulating a system of rewards, punishments, and experiences in such a way as to inhibit observable behavior that reflects the values and routines of life organization the individual displayed prior to contact with the group,

maintaining a closed system of logic and an authoritarian structure in the organization and

maintaining a non-informed state existing in the subject.

The last two conditions work because there is no effective way for the subject to influence the system and because the program moves along in such a way that the subject is unaware of being changed for a hidden organizational purpose. In a closed system of logic, criticism or complaints are handled by showing the subject that he or she is defective, not the organization. Observations may be turned around and argued to mean the opposite of what the critic intended. When a subject questions or doubts a tenet or rule, attention is called to factual information that suggests some internal contradiction within the belief system or a contradiction with what the subject has been told: the criticism or observation is "turned around" and the subject made to feel he or she is wrong. In effect the subject is told, "You are always wrong; the system is always right." The system refuses to be modified except by executive order. In addition, by keeping a subject in a non-informed state, he or she functions in an environment to which he or she is forced to adapt in a series of steps, each sufficiently minor so that the subject does not notice change in him- or herself and does not become aware of the goals of the program until late in the process (if ever).

The tactics of a thought reform program are organized lo destabilize individuals' sense of self by getting them to drastically reinterpret their life's history, radically alter their world view, accept a new version of reality and causality, and develop dependency on the organization, thereby being turned into a deployable agent of the organization operating the thought reform program.

deca
21-08-2012, 01:11 AM
I'm not saying I necessarily believe this stuff either. I don't care what people are searching for.

That's them, not me. Who am I (or you) to 'have a problem' with it? People may say you're paranoid about all that electronic harassment, micro chipping, etc. and that it's all in your head (no pun intended). :D

Who cares? I don't. :rolleyes:

yes who does ....it's an illusion.....your body some empty vessel .....you will ascended to a higher level........:rolleyes:

dumb ass occult beliefs..........


what about believing in humanity...fallowing your own head/heart and standing up for yourself the human species and the planet

but HAY some dude who cliams to hear "aliens" is saying ET`s are comming next week to "save" us ...so why bother.....well he has said that before....but they did not come because other humans are not ready...not open like us.....not true believers!!!!

cue loads of threads ....convincing people to "erase their ego"
eat less food " starve themselfs"
do mind less meditation /time consuming task
recommend locking yourself away isolating yourself while spend hours reading "spiritual books"
make them feel guilty ...for thinking of sex,masturbating, eating certain types of food etc
alienate them from the rest of socety...."they are not like us"
paint a picture of imminent doom
promise of salvation ...you will ascend etc




I totally believe that there are people trying to hijack this forum ...run thought reform programs over it........cause some naive innocent members harm ...then blame the forum and David icke




 

my_life
21-08-2012, 01:33 AM
yes who does ....it's an illusion.....your body some empty vessel .....you will ascended to a higher level........:rolleyes:

dumb ass occult beliefs..........


what about believing in humanity...fallowing your own head/heart and standing up for yourself the human species and the planet

but HAY some dude who cliams to hear "aliens" is saying ET`s are comming next week to "save" us ...so why bother.....well he has said that before....but they did not come because other humans are not ready...not open like us.....not true believers!!!!

cue loads of threads ....convincing people to "erase their ego"
eat less food " starve themselfs"
do mind less meditation /time consuming task
recommend locking yourself away isolating yourself while spend hours reading "spiritual books"
make them feel guilty ...for thinking of sex,masturbating, eating certain types of food etc
alienate them from the rest of socety...."they are not like us"
paint a picture of imminent doom
promise of salvation ...you will ascend etc




I totally believe that there are people trying to hijack this forum ...run thought reform programs over it........cause some naive innocent members harm ...then blame the forum and David icke




 

I agree. People need (or shall I say, it would be in their best interest) to help themselves instead of looking for external help/guidance.

alvaro_slash
21-08-2012, 06:18 PM
Most people can´t take Alex seriously or understand him fully because they still mix this spirit, demon and religious stuff with Ufology. They are not related at all, and this kind of stuff are blinding people, making they unable to see things clearly and jumping into hasty and absurd conclusions.

There are too many unfoulded claims, and not only about Alex´s experience, but regarding the UFO subject in general. I already started a thread about this, but let me suggest one more time: Take a look at the Blue Book Project document, and search for the Yellow Book documents.

deca
21-08-2012, 07:22 PM
the only thing Alien about these UFOs is in the "illegal Alien" of paperclip nazi scientist and there tech and unethical human experimentation methods

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/727/kennetharnoldyalahorten.jpg


HORTEN 229 - Nazi Uber fighter of WW2
HORTEN 229 - Nazi Uber fighter of WW2 - YouTube

thirdwave
22-08-2012, 01:50 AM
For me, it has nothing to do with if I believe UFOs and ETs or ITs are out their.. it has to do with the fact people claim contact but have 0 evidence to prove it and do not really state any info that is not really available via human intelligence and research.

I don't feel the need to put my faith in someone like Alex as its an invitation just to get shit in your eye..

I will take visitation seriously when I am visited either personally or collectively.. otherwise I do not see the point, nor trust the efforts of these supposed ETs.

I feel the truth is we shall not get contact because as much as people like to think they are, we are simply not ready for such contact as we are too closed minded, ego driven and conditioned to be the way we are. not to mentioned completely divided religiously, culturally and financially across the planet...

apart from forcibly brainwashing the human race or eliminating those that do not take to them, what else can they really do other than pick up a bunch of willing humans and taking them home to their planet, and why would they do that?

But I do think there are guys up there who would like to throw us a bone... for me Alex is not that bone.

I am open to some who channel as its a different kind of contact that can be perceived in many ways.. although even there I think you got some cash making cowboys and girls..

If we are to meat ETs its after we evolve and use out human potential and then meat ETs with a more mature mind set and spiritual understanding... not seeking assistance to form a new religion with new idols..

thirdwave
22-08-2012, 01:58 AM
the only thing Alien about these UFOs is in the "illegal Alien" of paperclip nazi scientist and there tech and unethical human experimentation methods

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/727/kennetharnoldyalahorten.jpg


HORTEN 229 - Nazi Uber fighter of WW2
HORTEN 229 - Nazi Uber fighter of WW2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNr9mb6CZI&feature=related)


Have you got a photograph image or video of that supposed Nazi craft other than a sketch of it?

deca
22-08-2012, 02:18 AM
Horten Ho 229 Gotha Go 229
Horten Ho 229 Gotha Go 229 - YouTube

Hitler's Stealth Fighter
Hitler's Stealth Fighter - المقاتلة الشبح لألمانيا النازية - YouTube

thirdwave
22-08-2012, 12:50 PM
i have not got time to look through videos, but the one i see is not the same as the one being claimed as like the UFO sighting.. is there life images of that one?

also most of them reported in ww2 were said to be so fast that even in their planes they could not travel nearly as fast not understanding how they could be so fast and vanish..

when ever i check out your posts its almost like you are trying to pull peoples minds closed, you are by far the most closed minded person I have encountered on these forums. I could never contemplate being that closed minded.

why are all the elderly service men close to death who come out to confirm Roswell was a ET cover ignored? Because people have a preference on what the want to be true and not.

There are many here who will swallow any old ET story in order to create a faith they want to have...

But there are also those the other side like your self would would try to debunk ETs if they sat down and had a cup of tea with them

deca
22-08-2012, 04:42 PM
I not trying to prove or disprove the existence of aliens,but looking at the evidence .

too many people on here already believe in aliens visiting earth and just looking for something/one to support this belief ....that makes them closed-minded and prone to conformation bias, not me I look at the evdence with an open mind

Open-mindedness
Open-mindedness - YouTube

there was a fighter horten and plans for a long range larger bomber horten

lyricusmagna
22-08-2012, 06:26 PM
Deca, take your crap elsewhere, you are clogging the thread with off topic posts!

alvaro_slash
22-08-2012, 07:42 PM
Deca, take your crap elsewhere, you are clogging the thread with off topic posts!

I don´t think he is talking crap at all, in fact, it´s one of the most lucid members I have seen around here so far. This could be off topic, but how about many useless posts about religion and demons at general and UFO sessions for example? And this non sense spiritual crap?

The video he posted with a discussion beetween a scientist and a religion folllower shows exactly what happens most of the time around here.

deca
22-08-2012, 08:52 PM
Deca, take your crap elsewhere, you are clogging the thread with off topic posts!

:p:rolleyes:

“One of their key plans is called Project Bluebeam. One element of this is to use laser-generating satellites in the ‘Star Wars’ network in different parts of the world to project holographic images in the sky of UFOs, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Khrishna, etc. With each belief system convinced that their savior has come, the potential for enormous religious conflict is obvious. Messages will be broadcast (as they already are) on the Extremely Low Frequency (ELF), Very Low Frequency (VLF), Low Frequency (LF) and microwave bands which can be picked up by the human brain. This technology is highly sophisticated today and many people will believe that ‘God’ and their ‘savior’ is talking to them when it is really the Brotherhood manipulators. Much ‘channeled’ information comes from this source already. Project Bluebeam also involves the manifestation of ‘supernatural’ phenomena of many kinds to terrify the population and amid the terror and conflict, also via holographic image in the sky, the Brotherhood ‘savior’ will come.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (482)


hmm but we are not worried about the stupid low level man-made tech are we:rolleyes:...you know the one you can see out your window any old night/day....the mast and satilites.....and we can trace the history of this in mkultra , Dr dalgado...but that not the super-duper "Alien" tech beaming on us from outaspace....no we should spend all day wondering what the "aliens" want ....:rolleyes:

justin_pushka
22-08-2012, 10:27 PM
115 ...36% of you people on here actually believe this shit?????:eek:
[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-1.avi
[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-1.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yi4-XNoaGs)

[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-2.avi
[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-2.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5EJe9MHH-Q&feature=related)

[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-3.avi
[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-3.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Ppj3QeOM8)

[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-4.avi
[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-4.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpfsNI4Rxlw)

[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-5.avi
[HST] UFO Files - UFO Cults-5.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN4lyOP65xg)

Thats all very well but Im not a member of any cult but ive seen ufos, close up. Im not going to start a ufo cult cos 1. I dont care if anyone beleives me, ive seen em thats good enough for me and 2. its only ever Cia operatives that do to muddy that water. :)

truth seeker 09
23-08-2012, 12:04 AM
Tolec: The hard reality and a difficult truth
http://andromedacouncil.com/TheHardRealityAndDifficultTruth.html

deca
23-08-2012, 12:10 AM
The Hard Reality and a Difficult Truth

​by Tolec, Andromeda Council
Tuesday, August 21, 2012
I always do my best to provide informative Andromeda Council news reports or updates that are insightful, exact, concise & detailed. This is the first one that has its own dedicated web page. I believe the below information will be highly valuable to you because it directly relates to the current clean-up process of what Earth people many times mistakenly believe to be the human ‘bad guys’ of ‘Cabal’ / ‘Illuminati power structure. Why did I say “mistakenly believe” in reference to these beings? Because a great many of them are not human. The hard reality and a difficult truth, they are in fact – Reptilian. So please, read on.

why not arrest them for crimes against humanity.....Reptilian or human who gives a shit.......

why do we need all this other shit about extra dimensions etc "magical thinking" nonsense ?

lyricusmagna
23-08-2012, 12:11 AM
I don´t think he is talking crap at all, in fact, it´s one of the most lucid members I have seen around here so far. This could be off topic, but how about many useless posts about religion and demons at general and UFO sessions for example? And this non sense spiritual crap?

The video he posted with a discussion beetween a scientist and a religion folllower shows exactly what happens most of the time around here.

What's crap is subjective. I find what he talks about as crap. Regardless, its off topic, and a good mod would not let this happen in any thread (not just this one).

This should be about all things Alex Collier. He could have made those posts in a relevant thread.

Instead of downsizing it to MK Ultra, maybe he can explain it in other ways why he thinks this is all untrue (Alex Collier case).

deca
23-08-2012, 12:15 AM
What's crap is subjective. I find what he talks about as crap. Regardless, its off topic, and a good mod would not let this happen in any thread (not just this one).

This should be about all things Alex Collier. He could have made those posts in a relevant thread.

Instead of downsizing it to MK Ultra, maybe he can explain it in other ways why he thinks this is all untrue (Alex Collier case).



This technology is highly sophisticated today and many people will believe that ‘God’ and their ‘savior’ is talking to them when it is really the Brotherhood manipulators. Much ‘channeled’ information comes from this source already. Project Bluebeam also involves the manifestation of ‘supernatural’ phenomena of many kinds to terrify the population and amid the terror and conflict, also via holographic image in the sky, the Brotherhood ‘savior’ will come.” -David Icke, “The Biggest Secret” (482)
:rolleyes:

thirdwave
23-08-2012, 02:00 AM
I not trying to prove or disprove the existence of aliens,but looking at the evidence .

too many people on here already believe in aliens visiting earth and just looking for something/one to support this belief ....that makes them closed-minded and prone to conformation bias, not me I look at the evdence with an open mind

Open-mindedness
Open-mindedness - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI)

there was a fighter horten and plans for a long range larger bomber horten

But that's just it, you dont post facts... you posted drawing of a supposed nazi craft implying that it was what was spotted and drawn by a guy during ww2 as it looked similar..

but there is no evidence that craft existed other than a drawing, and when asked it there is real footage of it I see another craft that looked nothing like it..

obviously military are always creating craft.. but for a start its not the shape of the craft that baffles people, its the way they move and how fast they move, which imply's they are not powered by fuel engines.. but something else..

deca
23-08-2012, 02:34 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold
UFO sighting

On June 24, 1947, while flying near Mt. Rainer, Arnold claimed to have seen nine unusual objects flying in the skies. He also claimed to have seen UFOs on several other occasions afterwards, as well.

Arnold originally described the objects' shape as "flat like a pie pan", "shaped like a pie plate", "half-moon shaped, oval in front and convex in the rear", "something like a pie plate that was cut in half with a sort of a convex triangle in the rear", or simply "saucer-like" or "like a big flat disk" (see quotes), and also described their erratic motion being "like a fish flipping in the sun" or a saucer skipped across water. From these, the press quickly coined the new terms "flying saucer" and "flying disc" to describe such objects, many of which were reported within days after Arnold's sighting. Later Arnold would add that one of the objects actually resembled a crescent or flying wing (see image).

The U.S. Air Force formally listed the Arnold case as a mirage; this is one of many explanations that have been disputed by critics, and researchers Jerome Clark, author of The UFO Book (1998)[5] and Ronald Story, editor of The Encyclopedia of UFOs (1980).[6] Both argue that there has never been an entirely persuasive conventional explanation of the Arnold sighting.

After his UFO sighting, Arnold became a minor celebrity, and for about a decade thereafter, he was somewhat involved in interviewing other UFO witnesses or contactees. Notably, he investigated the claims of Samuel Eaton Thompson, one of the first contactees. Arnold wrote a book and several magazine articles about his UFO sighting and his subsequent research.

By the 1960s, Arnold had little to do with UFOs, and eventually declined all interviews. On June 24, 1977, he however attended the First International UFO Congress curated by Fate to mark the 30th anniversary of the "birth" of the modern UFO age. Some of his comments here reflect his displeasure at the general ignorance concerning the matter:
“ … well, right here we’ve seen something, I’ve seen something, hundreds of pilots have seen something … in the skies. We have dutifully reported these things. And we have to have 15 million witnesses before anybody is going to look into the problem seriously? Well this is utterly fantastic. This is more fantastic than flying saucers or people from Venus or anything as far as I am concerned.

the horten 229 was a wooden stealth fighter with twin jets on it .....there was plans done to make a larger horten as a bomber powered by 6 jets engines...but guess what.....the allies captured these aircraft before they went into production and took them back to their countries....UK,russia and the USA........Arnold sighting was in 1947....possible the americans had built protypes...of these natzi jets...working with there natzi scietest..or do you think they were scratched ting their head wondering "how the supposed" alien space craft at Roswell worked....? do you think they were reversed engineering the natzi tech ?...
if you bothered to watch the video you see the remains of a horten 229 in a america hanger under look and key

also the larger bomber was wanted to drop nuclear bomb that the natzi were working on.....again that tech went to the yanks .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_H.XVIII
The Horten H.XVIII was a proposed German World War II intercontinental bomber that would have been based upon the Horten Ho 229 design. Like the Ho 229, it would have possessed similar stealth characteristics, as well as a large fuel capacity for transatlantic missions. Based on data from the 229 design, experts have estimated the H.XVIII would have been able to evade radar detection until it was within eight minutes of the east coast of the United States, making allied interception prior to payload delivery highly unlikely. [1]


this is the 229
http://blog.nasm.si.edu/2011/06/24/preserving-and-displaying-the-%E2%80%9Cbat-wing-ship%E2%80%9D/

http://www.nasm.si.edu/webimages/640/WEB11934-2011_640.jpg

http://www.nasm.si.edu/webimages/640/WEB11933-2011_640.jpg


The Museum’s Horten H IX V3 is the only extant example of the world’s first all-wing jet aircraft.

At a workshop in west central Germany in mid-April 1945, Allied ground forces recovered the center section of the H IX V3, or “Bat-Wing Ship” as one intelligence officer described it. This prototype was under construction at the time and missing its outer wing panels.

U. S. Army Air Forces Technical Intelligence specialists shipped the wing to Freeman Field, Indiana, with intermediate stops in Farnborough, England, New York, and Newark, New Jersey. The Allies had managed to recover a set of H IX outer wing panels and technicians attached the panels to the H IX V3 center section before the wing was transferred to the Smithsonian during the late 1940s.
 

deca
23-08-2012, 03:02 AM
Horten Ho-2 Flying Wing Test Flight 1935
Horten Ho-2 Flying Wing Test Flight 1935 - YouTube



http://www.flying-things.ch/RESERVE2/horten_series2.jpg

deca
23-08-2012, 03:19 AM
Flying Wing YB-35 and XB-49
Flying Wing YB-35 and XB-49 - YouTube

Flying Wing YB-35 and XB-49


this flying wing was scraped in 1949 as it was too unstable to fly !!!!!


Northrop Flying Wing YB-49 Test Flight at Hawthorne Airport 1947 Newsreel
Northrop Flying Wing YB-49 Test Flight at Hawthorne Airport 1947 Newsreel - YouTube


Northrop YB-49 "Flying Wing" - Taxing, Take Off & Flight Operations (1947)

Northrop YB-49 "Flying Wing" - Taxing, Take Off & Flight Operations (1947) - YouTube


http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2829/screenshot081u.png

hmm if the YB_49 was flying low and towards you...it would look like a flying saucer


hmm there even 9 on the tarmac !!!!
http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4607332369696450&ampid=a6217ef56aa628999c8b120ff3965de0

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4773912682627494&ampid=c5159455c2a0e3f5f4bccca7add6133e


UFO sighting

On June 24, 1947, while flying near Mt. Rainer, Arnold claimed to have seen nine unusual objects flying in the skies. He also claimed to have seen UFOs on several other occasions afterwards, as well.

deca
23-08-2012, 01:11 PM
hmm looks like the US was navie and showing of there lastest tech to the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_of_1947

National Security Act of 1947
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President Truman signs the National Security Act Amendment of 1949 in the Oval Office.

The National Security Act of 1947 (Pub.L. 80-253, 61 Stat. 495, codified at 50 U.S.C. ch.15) was an Act of Congress signed by President Truman on 26 July 1947, and realigned and reorganized the U.S. Armed Forces, foreign policy, and Intelligence Community apparatus in the aftermath of World War II. The majority of the provisions of the Act took effect on September 18, 1947, the day after the Senate confirmed James Forrestal as the first Secretary of Defense. His power was extremely limited and it was difficult for him to exercise the authority to make his office effective. This was later changed in the amendment to the act in 1949, creating what was to be the Department of Defense.[1]

deca
23-08-2012, 01:27 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect

Microwave auditory effect
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The microwave auditory effect, also known as the microwave hearing effect or the Frey effect, consists of audible clicks (or, with modulation, whole words) induced by pulsed/modulated microwave frequencies. The clicks are generated directly inside the human head without the need of any receiving electronic device. The effect was first reported by persons working in the vicinity of radar transponders during World War II. These induced sounds are not audible to other people nearby. The microwave auditory effect was later discovered to be inducible with shorter-wavelength portions of the electromagnetic spectrum. During the Cold War era, the American neuroscientist Allan H. Frey studied this phenomenon and was the first to publish[1] information on the nature of the microwave auditory effect.

Dr. Don R. Justesen published "Microwaves and Behavior" in The American Psychologist (Volume 30, March 1975, Number 3).

Research by NASA in the 1970s[citation needed] showed that this effect occurs as a result of thermal expansion of parts of the human ear around the cochlea, even at low power density. Later, signal modulation was found to produce sounds or words that appeared to originate intracranially. It was studied for its possible use in communications. Both the United States and USSR studied its use in non-lethal weaponry.[citation needed]

Pulsed microwave radiation can be heard by some workers; the irradiated personnel perceive auditory sensations of clicking or buzzing. The cause is thought to be thermoelastic expansion of portions of auditory apparatus.[2] The auditory system response occurs at least from 200 MHz to at least 3 GHz. In the tests, repetition rate of 50 Hz was used, with pulse width between 10–70 microseconds. The perceived loudness was found to be linked to the peak power density instead of average power density. At 1.245 GHz, the peak power density for perception was below 80 mW/cm2. The generally accepted mechanism is rapid (but minuscule, in the range of 10−5 °C) heating of brain by each pulse, and the resulting pressure wave traveling through skull to cochlea.[3]

The existence of non-lethal weaponry that exploits the microwave auditory effect appears to have been classified "Secret NOFORN" in the USA from (at the latest) 1998, until the declassification on 6 December 2006 of "Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weaponry" in response to a FOIA request. Application of the microwave hearing technology could facilitate a private message transmission. Quoting from the above source, "Microwave hearing may be useful to provide a disruptive condition to a person not aware of the technology. Not only might it be disruptive to the sense of hearing, it could be psychologically devastating if one suddenly heard "voices within one's head".

The technology gained further public attention when a company announced in early 2008 that they were close to fielding a device called MEDUSA (Mob Excess Deterrent Using Silent Audio) based on the principle.[4]

Electroreception has also been studied in the animal world. Ritz et al., in Biophysical Journal,[5] hypothesize that transduction of the Earth's geomagnetic field is responsible for the magnetoreception systems of birds. Specifically, they propose that this transduction may take place in a class of photoreceptors known as cryptochromes.

this whole "ufo/alien" belief looks like some type of psychological warfare program to distract/spread disinformation about human based tech/human testing/experiments etc......

again weather there are "beings" on other planets who knows

lyricusmagna
23-08-2012, 01:37 PM
:rolleyes:

That post and your consecutive posts, are still - OFF TOPIC.

deca
23-08-2012, 01:40 PM
but the thread about " UFO contactee Alex Collier "


why did the op include the "no he isnt" "i am almost sure he isnt" then ?

again I not saying UFO are not a real phenomena (unidentified flying objects )and also in a veil of secrecy but is them being "alien" ships really the only explanation?

also is the alien contact "channeling" ...can only be explained by genuine "alien beings from another planet" ?




  so we need to understand where "UFO" story begins to judge whether the guy is speaking any truth?

also to explain is there any other explanation for his claimed "channeling" of alien info


where does his information match up to real events/history and provable/demonstrable science etc

UFO - Nazi UFO Conspiracy (2010) Discovery Channel
UFO - Nazi UFO Conspiracy (2010) Discovery Channel - YouTube

A credible investigation of possible connections between UFO sightings in the past half century and secret flying saucer technologies developed by the Nazis in WW2.

king triad
23-08-2012, 02:12 PM
this whole "ufo/alien" belief looks like some type of psychological warfare program to distract/spread disinformation about human based tech/human testing/experiments etc......

again weather there are "beings" on other planets who knows

I've been in contact with the Nordics living on a biosphere here since 1973. aliens are REAL..and you clearly have an agenda with all your off topic posts..

deca
23-08-2012, 03:33 PM
so any post that questions if that UFO`s and "channeling" are from real "aliens" and puts up alternative explanations is off topic then?

so you want people to read these threads and accept aliens are real and visiting earth and interacting with humans without questioning it...then read people's subjective evidence...there story /hearsay and whether they are telling the truth or not ?


so I have to believe aliens are real visting earth as fact.....then judge weather alex coiler is telling the truth or talking bollocks?


so your understanding is you belief in aliens...then research stuff the best fits/reflects that belief and reject anything that contrdicts your orignal belief

 

king triad
23-08-2012, 03:52 PM
Hi

UFO contactee Alex Collier has also talked about the Reptilians since the beginning of the 90's. Collier has said that we on Earth have an incredible and complicated, inter-galactic mess hanging upon us.

I warmly recommend you to check out the following videos and his free online book "Defending Sacred Ground".

"I don't own the material, I just volunteered to deliver the message".

- Alex Collier, in 2008

There is something positive but mainly very disturbing information he shares.

"Andromedan contactee Alex Collier has had his face-to-face contacts with blue-skinned human ETs from the Andromeda constellation and the Andromeda galaxy, which have included multiple visits aboard their tremendous motherships and decades of telepathic contact.

Collier talks of the Andromedan civilization and their Council to which the Pleiadian ETs appealed for assistance in dealing with a dangerous, malevolent ET confederation plaguing humanity and much of the galaxy.

Collier describes in detail the members of this malevolent and dangerous ET confederation consisting of

- Reptilian ETs from Alpha Draconis
- the Orion Group and
- the Grey ETs from Zeta Reticuli 2

and it appears that the Alpha Draconan reptilian ETs have been manipulating humanity into a nearly invisible system of servitude for aeons, feeding off of our labor and our bodies through the wars that they instigate and the hostile belief systems which they foster in the form of religious and social institutions."

- UFO Hypotheses.com

Collier's free online book "Defending Sacred Ground":

http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf

... Or if you can't read pdf-files:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_0.htm

Videos:

Despite the fact these following videos are from the 90's they are more current than ever!

1) Collier's interview in 1994 by Rick Keefe. Collier talks about the probability that in July or August 2001 (the 9/11 attacks) may happen something very negative and cataclysmic to manipulate the consciousness of humankind:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nnYfxDIXyo

2) Collier's lecture in 1995. This lecture covers issues like the National Security Agency (NSA) in USA being the Secret government which is in regular contact with the bad ET races. Collier also talks about the upcoming abuse of power, now evidenced by Patriot Acts 1 and 2:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XchY4RvU8

3) Collier's Moon & Mars lecture in 1996:

www.video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8128807323426058322

At some point Collier was threatened by the CIA officials. He was told to stop sharing his information or else he and the people around him would be dealt with. This was the reason why Collier stopped his work in the UFO circles in 2002:

Witness testimony supporting Alex Collier's legitimacy as a contactee by Jon Robinson

"Alex back in Colorado was confronted in daylight by three men in black suits that flashed credential of the CIA. Alex had just picked up the mail when the three men surrounding him in the parking lot. Two on each side behind him and one in front. The one in front pulled out a folder and proceeded to tell Alex things that only he knew about himself and family. They then warned him to back off on the newsletter or else some of his friends would be dealt with. On the top of the list was me followed by my wife and two others."

- Jon Robinson

http://galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier-Robinson.htm

Fortunately Collier came back in 2007.

4) This is one of Collier's recent lectures available, filmed in 2008 (Introduction made by Michael Salla):

www.video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2079845726082983985

5) Collier points some of the joint alien/human bases where they are located around the world:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=srB33j1onCg

UFO Hypotheses Page devoted to Alex Collier:

"This page is dedicated to my friend Alex Collier,
a brave but reluctant contactee":

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm

Michael Salla's opinion about Alex Collier:

"I have analysed Alex Collier's information, had physical and phone interviews with him. I have witnessed some private physical evidence he has provided to support his testimony, and been taken on a tour of the Decker Canyon location in Malibu where he claims to have had contact. I have also spoken with a direct witness verifying various aspects of Alex's contact experiences.

Alex has also revealed that he was the recipient of threats from shadow government agencies and abruptly chose to stop disseminating his information in the period 2000-2002.

Furthermore, Alex has give face to face interviews with veteran UFO researchers Paola Harris and Wendelle Stevens who have had the opportunity to examine the evidence supporting his testimony and concludes he is credible.

Finally, back on June 2, 2007 Alex Collier gave me advance notice of a set of confidential meetings to be held at the United Nations, well before this information leaked in February 2008.

My conclusion from my investigation so far of Alex is that he is very credible and a genuine contactee with a 'friendly' extraterrestrial race. I therefore recommend taking the information he has to reveal very seriously. All those interested in galactic diplomacy and understanding a variety of extraterrestrial races interacting with humanity, will find Alex's work to be very helpful."

- Michael E. Salla, PhD

http://galacticdiplomacy.com/Contactees-Collier.htm

This is the topic in the reptilian section..It's not about mind control or hitlers ufo's..or your theory that all et's are mind control..

deca
23-08-2012, 03:56 PM
so you cant` talk about MILABS "Military Abductions" then ?

king triad
23-08-2012, 03:59 PM
so you cant` talk about MILABS "Military Abductions" then ?

The thread is about the reptilians from Alpha draconis,the Orion group,and zeta greys...all of which have been effecting humanity since the 50s or earlier..You should try reading some of Colliers stuff on the subject..

deca
23-08-2012, 04:02 PM
The thread is about the reptilians from Alpha draconis,the Orion group,and zeta greys...all of which have been effecting humanity since the 50s or earlier..You should try reading some of Colliers stuff on the subject..

what after the natzi human experiments came to light and the human mind control programs and other unethical human experimentation were set up ? ..."the aliens started experimenting" on humans as well?

king triad
23-08-2012, 04:07 PM
what after the natzi human experiments came to light and the human mind control programs and other unethical human experimentation were set up ? ..."the aliens started experimenting" on humans as well?

The grey aliens have a treaty with the US govt allowing them to abduct citizens in exchange for technology...they have since the 50's..yes the military works with these aliens , well they used too..

deca
23-08-2012, 04:15 PM
sorry I just not buying into the false narrative "grey aliens have a treaty with the US govt" bullshit


but if they as YOU claim are working together why are you dismissive of all the human experiments that's come to light and black project ? MKultra etc and say information from these sources has no relevance in this thread
 

king triad
23-08-2012, 04:30 PM
sorry I just not buying into the false narrative "grey aliens have a treaty with the US govt" bullshit


but if they as YOU claim are working together why are you dismissive of all the human experiments that's come to light and black project ? MKultra etc and say information from these sources has no relevance in this thread
 

You live your life in the dark and try to explain things with reality.false reality...The secret govt that works on these projects is using alien technology so I guess it is relevant..Why is it so hard to believe an alien culture has a treaty with the PTB?..