A picture(s) I'd like you to look at, provided....

[leviathanstaar]

you are not busy. To do so and reply states that you had a few moments.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3473/thebeginingul4.jpg

Please save this pic, and zoom in several areas and reply if you see anything odd.

This pic is unedited. It is from aprox 1980. I have others too add at a later time

[venividivici2311]

the face looks strange???

[astrochicken]

you are not busy. To do so and reply states that you had a few moments.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3473/thebeginingul4.jpg

Please save this pic, and zoom in several areas and reply if you see anything odd.

This pic is unedited. It is from aprox 1980. I have others too add at a later time

ok, i confess.. i spent too much time looking at it ;)


As regards the actual image:
1. the squiggles could be a lot of 6's
2. the one nearest the thumb could be an upside down aliens head
3. The tip of the crayon looks kinda wierd in a 3d-pyramid-like way (could be movement and shutter speed), 4. the hair falls in such a way that what could be construed as a beak sticks out.
5. the tip of the kids nose is missing.
6. Something might be sitting on the left shoulder.. looks like a skeleton wearing an SS-uniform LOL
7. The teacher is holding a cloth, the folds of which make it look like a jason mask
8. several light sources.. an open door at the back and i would think a window behind the kids head reflecting off various sources

Asides from that i'm not seeing anything....

As regards the actual print:
The entire print appears to be an alphabet soup consisting primarily of the letters ( "S","E" "A" "H" "M" "X") and the number "8" and i can discern the word "sex" all over but most evident in the folds of the jumper on the left shoulder. (could be the paper?)


K, you have me piqued.
Fire off a PM with the *answer* so i don't have to wait till more have posted replies. ;)

[armoured_amazon]

Ok, the squiggles are a lot of 6's, the tip of the crayon looks kinda wierd in a 3d-pyramid-like way (could be movement and shutter speed), the hair falls in such a way that what could be construed as a beak sticks out and the tip of the kids nose is missing.
The teacher is holding a cloth, the folds of which make it look like a jason mask and there are several light sources.. an open door at the back and i would think a window behind the kids head.

Asides from that i'm not seeing anything

You saw a lot! I only noticed the nose.

[scatlond]

An Orb just above the middle of the boys head. Something black in his ear.

[jojo]

an orb above his head and he looks like he has drawn an eye and a pryamid.

[leviathanstaar]

Thx for the replies so far.

If the bottom of the crayon is movement overlay, wouldnt the top of it need to look similar? It would have to be moving also. Wouldnt the hand as well?

Yes to what I think I see on face irregularities.

Look at the back of the boy's head and neck area zoomed in a bit.
Maybe try letting your eyes go out of focus and back a few times.
Play with different sizes and tell me what you see.

I appreciate your time.

[themime]

You mean the thing sitting on his shoulder?

[the worm that turned]

A fake face! or wearing a mask

[leviathanstaar]

That shoulder part seems to be the tail end of that irregularity.

but I see alot near the top back of his head as well.

Its intersting for me that the first few times I viewed this photo I saw nothing.

Then as I looked closer numerous things began to stand out.

I dont want to say what I see so as to taint the results of others seeing it.

I beleive what I see is moving.....in such a way that it's image in fact overlays onto itself on different angles all within the split moment of this shot.

When I finally saw it, I was stunned. Hard time then convincing myself it could be from the poor pixelation to such a degree. Please also note the locations of the three most noticable small white dots.

thanks for the responses and keep looking, thank you.

[scatlond]

There seems to be a few faces and body forms at the back of his head.

There is a star of david in the orb. Zoom in.

[leviathanstaar]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8831/thebegining3wn6.jpg

upper right hand side behind head

I often find it helps to work only with a portion of a picture at a time

[octopusrex]

I see a cute kid.

[whoami]

I seen the orb, which could have just been a spec of dust on the camera lense. Other than that all I notice is the verticle white line on the kid's left side.:confused: After you give everyone a chance to assess the picture, please tell us what you see; you have got me in suspense.:D

[cruise4]

Tell us what you can see or fuck off. Enough is enough. I'll never be looking at anything you post again.

[debs67gb]

I thought he had a mirror behind him ...

[leviathanstaar]

Hey cruiser, dont wait for me to do anything.There was a disclaimer before you replied.

Pre-emptively no longer look at anything I ever post again. Thanks.

[jadeaube]

the kids right hand looks like it moing very subtely.. or Im seeing things... if u stare at anything long enough shit gets fucked up

[astrochicken]

you are not busy. To do so and reply states that you had a few moments.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3473/thebeginingul4.jpg

Please save this pic, and zoom in several areas and reply if you see anything odd.

This pic is unedited. It is from aprox 1980. I have others too add at a later time


Tell us what you can see or fuck off. Enough is enough. I'll never be looking at anything you post again.


I see his/her point, leviathanstaar.

I thought i'd play along and posted a rather detailed reply.

Personally i'd rather stare at the heavens or a tree than waste time on this or on another photo. It's like bloody ebay.. get 20 replies and you get a cryptic hint.

Life is too short, have fun with your pics.

I'm out of here.

[leviathanstaar]

What I see is some sort of creature or enitity I cannot identify at all

It is the reason for being so candid with asking other wise I wouldnt have been.

Even though I am unaffected, it appears as though thread is dismay for some people and I'd ask it be closed. Any further material will be posted in consipratainment, where my disclaimer will be much more colorful to say the least.

[comawhite015]

if u stare at anything long enough shit gets fucked up

Exactly. I see a kid drawing a picture.

Perhaps he was drawing this:

http://www.idiomsbykids.com/taylor/mrtaylor/class20022003/idioms/idioms2003/idioms4/BIG%20Deal.jpg

[novymir]

What I see is some sort of creature or enitity I cannot identify at all

It is the reason for being so candid with asking other wise I wouldnt have been.

Even though I am unaffected, it appears as though thread is dismay for some people and I'd ask it be closed. Any further material will be posted in consipratainment, where my disclaimer will be much more colorful to say the least.

I think I know what you're talking about, it's like a drawing isn't it, almost cartoonish or like a caricature? I can see them just about anywhere if I look, like looking for subliminals. They also can be confusing because it appears that multiple images can meld back and forth into one.
It's an etheric projection.
I also saw the subliminal word "sex" in the kid's hair.

Just go on the web and check out bigger pics of Bush or Clintion(GQ mag has a good one), the same as you look at this pic. Then,,,,, go look in the mirror the same way.

Ignore the negative comments, this is a serious issue. It kind of freaked me out at first.
I'm wondering if this is a subconscious distraction to keep us from seeing what really IS. Or the other subliminals.

Check out this one zoomed, I see something very interesting going on, a scene,, look for facial patterns, in the cloud formation over the land slightly above center and slightly to the left:
www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/earth/pictures/2002/1203apollo17/earth.jpg

[comawhite015]

There is an universal tendency among mankind to conceive all beings like themselves, and to transfer to every object, those qualities, with which they are familiarly acquainted, and of which they are intimately conscious. We find human faces in the moon, armies in the clouds; and by a natural propensity, if not corrected by experience and reflection, ascribe malice or good- will to every thing, that hurts or pleases us. --David Hume*



Pareidolia is a type of illusion or misperception involving a vague or obscure stimulus being perceived as something clear and distinct. For example, in the discolorations of a burnt tortilla one sees the face of Jesus Christ. Or one sees the image of Mother Teresa or Ronald Reagan in a cinnamon bun or a man in the moon.

Under ordinary circumstances, pareidolia provides a psychological explanation for many delusions based upon sense perception. For example, it explains many UFO sightings, as well as the hearing of sinister messages on records played backwards. Pareidolia explains Elvis, Bigfoot, and Loch Ness Monster sightings. It explains numerous religious apparitions and visions. And it explains why some people see a face or a building in a photograph of the Cydonia region of Mars.

Under clinical circumstances, some psychologists encourage pareidolia as a means to understanding a patient, e.g., the Rorschach ink blot test.

Astronomer Carl Sagan claimed that the human tendency to see faces in tortillas, clouds, cinnamon buns, and the like is an evolutionary trait. He writes:

As soon as the infant can see, it recognizes faces, and we now know that this skill is hardwired in our brains. Those infants who a million years ago were unable to recognize a face smiled back less, were less likely to win the hearts of their parents, and less likely to prosper. These days, nearly every infant is quick to identify a human face, and to respond with a goony grin (Sagan 1995: 45).
I think Sagan is right about the tendency to recognize faces, but I don't see any reason to think there is an evolutionary advantage in seeing replicas of paintings, ghosts, demons, and the like, in inanimate objects. There is, of course, an evolutionary advantage in seeing images of dinner or predators against a varied environmental background. There would be no advantage for, say, a hawk to be dive-bombing shadows on rocks, however. It seems likely that the modern mind is making associations with shapes, lines, shadows, and the like that are connected to current desires, interests, hopes, obsessions, and the like. Most people recognize illusions for what they are, but some become fixated on the reality of their perception and turn an illusion into a delusion. A little bit of critical thinking, however, should convince most reasonable people that a potato that looks like the Hindu god Ganesh, a cinnamon bun that looks like mother Teresa, or a burnt area on a tortilla that looks like Jesus are accidents and without significance. It is more likely that the Virgin Mary one sees in the reflection of a mirror or on the floor of an apartment complex or in the clouds has been generated from one's own imagination than that a person who has been dead for 2,000 years should manifest herself in such a mundane and useless fashion.


www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html


http://www.worth1000.com/entries/72000/72388bgIF_w.jpg

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/popefireDM1510_468x365.jpg

http://thefolklorist.com/Pareidolia%20Project/doc/Pareidolia%20Project-1247_1.jpg

[novymir]

[QUOTE=comawhite015;785797]www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html



Hey buddy, just because you don't see something does not mean it does not exist, or that is has no meaning outside of oneself. We don't need no clown acts here. Why ARE you here?????
You might consider who and what is the source telling us we are just imagining(or are delusional) somesuch perception.
Don't try to PROJECT your own blindness upon others. And unwittingly do the rulers of this world's work for them.

[comawhite015]

Hey buddy, just because you don't see something does not mean it does not exist. We don't need no clown acts here. Why ARE you here?????
You might consider who and what is the source telling us we are just imagining(or are delusional) somesuch perception.
Don't try to PROJECT your own blindness upon others. And unwittingly do the rulers of this world's work for them.

Calm down, buddy :P It is the way your brain works. It is biologically hard-wired to find stuff in pictures if you look hard enough. Whether you want to believe it's not there or it is is up to you. I see faces in the patterns on the floor of my toilet, cuz of pareidolia. It's.. basic brain function.

*shrug* Sorry but that's just the way it is.

Buddy.

Edit: I'm here to seek information just like everyone else here. But that doesn't mean I'll believe *everything*. I like to think too much for that.

[novymir]

Calm down, buddy :P It is the way your brain works. It is biologically hard-wired to find stuff in pictures if you look hard enough. Whether you want to believe it's not there or it is is up to you. I see faces in the patterns on the floor of my toilet, cuz of pareidolia. It's.. basic brain function.

*shrug* Sorry but that's just the way it is.

Buddy.

Edit: I'm here to seek information just like everyone else here. But that doesn't mean I'll believe *everything*. I like to think too much for that.

Dude, I don't need a lesson about brain function or psychology from you. If you want to accept the establishment "truth" that's your choice. But why do you feel a need to push it on others, and mock them?
To keep them in line?

[comawhite015]

Dude, I don't need a lesson about brain function or psychology from you. If you want to accept the establishment "truth" that's your choice. But why do you feel a need to push it on others, and mock them?
To keep them in line?

As a wise man once said, 'It's just information. It's up to you what you do with it'.

[novymir]

As a wise man once said, 'It's just information. It's up to you what you do with it'.

Here's some info for you then, scroll down and read adampants2007's post:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread328667/pg24

And then google video the same name.

You can also check this out too:
syncromysticism
http://www.youtube.com/user/Seallion

[comawhite015]

For example....9/11....you think the hologram was A) generated from the 3rd dimension...nope....and you think it was empty space and that there was NOTHING to shine it ON....nope. What you saw on 9/11 was NO different than what you see in a movie theatre...no difference. ONLY...it was movie generated and projected from the 4th dimension ONTO the 3rd dimension.


Sorry, lost me there. It is an interesting read, nonetheless. But it's just from one guy who's saying that being from the fourth dimension (which is 'time', mind you) are teaching him. Without any more than that I'll put it on my 'later' pile.

Peace out, though =)

[cruise4]

I had my tongue wedged firmly in by cheek and should have probably put a :D in there, so don't hate me :D

[leviathanstaar]

:P


Oh and Comawhite, I disagree completely in both your theory(about me and what I might or might not see), and the idea any individual can simply state 'thats how it is' and just simply be right.

You may in fact be right, but it's certainly not because you state it so.

I have looked at many of them at length and decided there is nothing in them was worth noting(despite seeing things that looked ike other things via shape). How is that then possible based on the 'repeated page you 'repeated to me?

I know of the brain fucntion, but what makes you know thats what we have here? Because you dont see it?
It might be snake/like enitity that I can make out, and it may also be aboslutely nothing. I think the fact that I know that cancels out completely
anything to do with that.

I dont think the tree up the street has a man smoking a cigar on it even tho it looks that way.

[comawhite015]

:P


Oh and Comawhite, I disagree completely in both your theory(about me and what I might or might not see), and the idea any individual can simply state 'thats how it is' and just simply be right.

You may in fact be right, but it's certainly not because you state it so.

I have looked at many of them at length and decided there is nothing in them was worth noting(despite seeing things that looked ike other things via shape). How is that then possible based on the 'repeated page you 'repeated to me?

I know of the brain fucntion, but what makes you know thats what we have here? Because you dont see it?
It might be snake/like enitity that I can make out, and it may also be aboslutely nothing. I think the fact that I know that cancels out completely
anything to do with that.

I dont think the tree up the street has a man smoking a cigar on it even tho it looks that way.

I didn't say it's ALWAYS pareidolia, shit. If I look at a picture of a snake, there's probably a snake in it.

The human brain is an amazing thing, and we see very little with our eyes. The brain does all the work, and sometimes it can 'recognise' things in random shapes.

I just meant that one should generally remember that the mind does play tricks on one, (which is amazing in itself! Such complexity!) and not be too quick to let your beliefs and what you *want* to see cloud your judgements.

That's all =) Sorry if it came across as finger wagging.

[novymir]

Sorry, lost me there. It is an interesting read, nonetheless. But it's just from one guy who's saying that being from the fourth dimension (which is 'time', mind you) are teaching him. Without any more than that I'll put it on my 'later' pile.

Peace out, though =)

No actually, it is a "space".
"In physics and mathematics, a sequence of n numbers can be understood as a location in an n-dimensional space. When n = 4, the set of all such locations is called 4-dimensional Euclidean space.

Such a space differs from our more familiar three-dimensional space in that it has an additional dimension, or rather a new direction in which movement is possible. The inclusion of a fourth spatial dimension must not be confused with that of the time-inclusion as the fourth dimension of spacetime."
Fourth dimension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Fourth Spatial Dimension 101 - YouTube
If you're not interested that's fine, but someone else might be.

p.s., the brain is more or less just a biological computer. It is dependant on what has been downloaded into it. The "mind" is not the brain, and it is the mind that is connected to Spirit, the manipulators try to decieve/influence the brain and body to hijack the mind and thus detach one from awareness of Spirit and True Self.
We can rewire our brain, and change our DNA, if we have the awareness and intent.

[comawhite015]

^^ That's cool, thanks =) I like Carl Sagan a lot.

[robin2]

http://z6.invisionfree.com/Free_Thinkers/index.php?showtopic=3085&hl=

[leviathanstaar]

robin can you see that thing going up his back to the bag of his head?

[leviathanstaar]

oh and its np coma thx for input

[fitafita]

Lets see

[smokey_shaman]

you are not busy. To do so and reply states that you had a few moments.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3473/thebeginingul4.jpg

Please save this pic, and zoom in several areas and reply if you see anything odd.

This pic is unedited. It is from aprox 1980. I have others too add at a later time

Nothing is wrong with this image. Its an old 35mm film photo. The kid is drawing on a blank piece of paper next to the coloring book (its a different brightness). He's just doodling like any young kid, he isn't tracing. His head is multi-toned due to the film exposure. At the back of his head, if you look close you can see the outline of his hair. His head isn't huge. The darker thing behind is hair is something that looks to be a chair next to the stove. The Orbs are most likely dust since it is a film camera. The kids nose does look weird but if you look at the shadow it cast it is the same. Over all its just an old image. There is a bright area near the top right but if that is a stove good chance its just the clear section of the stove reflecting or the metal.

[sugarray]

When i first glanced at the picture i thought there was a person in the top left corner undoing their fly (i realise it's not that though)

[llanfairpwll]

I find this thread interesting actually. I see the upside down alien face on the paper. The nose is definitely odd. The area in front of the ear looks strange as well. To me it looks like this child has part of his hairline missing. His left cheek and eye look swollen as well making me wonder if he was injured in an accident or abused in some way. Also either his hand is swollen as well or he is gripping the crayon extremely hard to cause the skin around the crayon to look that way on his hand. The person in the backround holding the cloth makes a subltle devil horn gesture, accidently or on purpose? The previous poster who thought it was someone adusting their fly really makes me go hmmmm, because we really can't tell what the cloth is. It could be part of an untucked shirt for all we know. I don't get a good vibe from this picture. I also think the child is sitting in front of a mirror. I'm not too knowlegeble about ghosts but have heard they like mirrors and I definately see the orb the others pointed out. Oh, I also think the object on the table to the left looks like a tiny black kitten with a little white around its neck (like a tuxedo cat).

[eclecticspirit]

Put the pic in Photoshop, crank up the brightness and contrast, and everything becomes way more clear. You can see the clear outline of the child's shoulder and head shape. There is definitely a chair or some sort of object in the background that appears behind his head. It does look like a kitten in the forefront on the table. You can even tell the child has a perfectly normal, albeit stubby, nose. The person in the background has what appears to be a wash rag or maybe a spray bottle in his/her hand. There are no devil horns, there is no demon on his shoulder, and there certainly isn't the word SEX subliminally dancing in his hair. It's simply a little boy sitting at the table coloring with his kitten while mom/dad does housework in the background. That's all.

[ragnarok]

BOO! HISS! I was expecting so much more from this thread! :mad:

[sputnik 666]

Nothing to see here..Move along now.:rolleyes:

[comawhite015]

Lawl, I remember this.. ah, memories..

[mally_lentil]

What a fucking shit thread. The OP is clearly seeing things as is the fucking imbecile who reckons that there's a 'star of david' in one of the cunting orbs! :mad:

Fuck me some of you tits piss me off!