The weather! It's NOT normal!

[soglad]

Just now, out of nowhere, it started to BUCKET down! I'm talking huge raindrops! I thought someone had just thrown a bucket at the window! At summer, for a whole week?? I suspect fowl play!

Flooding also up north, at summer?

*ehem* CHEMTRAILS *ehem, ehem*

[eternal_spirit]

Over the past ten years or less .....which is the same time the chemtrails have been used in tandem with the scalar harrp technologies.

1 The highest tempretures ever recorded
2 The lowest tempretures ever
3 More storms and high winds, earth tremors,flooding and record snow falls.
This is the UK and also many other countries.

[bigus_dickus]

i guess the sun has nothing to do with it, it's the reptilians' fault again?

[eternal_spirit]

i guess the sun has nothing to do about it, it's the reptilians' fault again?

Nature can be un predicitable. I think it's more to do with man controlling nature ( the weather ) But it could be both.

[roxanna222]

The weather is wacked! Get this I live in Costa Rica (tropical central america) the other day it actually hailed. Chunks of ice falling from the sky, the temp. went down was blustery and I had to sleep with 3 friggin blankets! I have to admit what with the pole-shift etc. it scared the bleep out of me. I have never seen that happen in this country. Also and this may or may not have relation to this but I have known of chemtrails for awhile and have looked for them but not till recently have Ive actually seen here and this sighting was very recent. A correlation perhaps, dont know. Either way some major out of the blue changes happening.

[klinker]

Have you read Jerry E Smith's book 'Weather Warfare' ?

An interesting read with some excellent historical information regarding weather engineering.

[whitenight639]

Have you read Jerry E Smith's book 'Weather Warfare' ?

An interesting read with some excellent historical information regarding weather engineering.

give us some more info, post what you have learned :)

[james777]

Well guys, I hate to be the logical one here, but someone has to pull you in before you have a conspiracy overload.

Weather- The state of the atmosphere at a place and time as regards heat, sunshine, cloudiness, rain, wind, dryness...ect.

Ok, so here we see what weather is. I'm no meteorologist, but I do know that no one on this forum is over 120 years old and our detailed weather history doesn't even go back that far.

How the hell can we begin to suggest what is normal or what is not on this planet. We've been here for a very short period of time and our technology has just recently been able to actually interperet true weather patterns. Through geological survey and study, they've found the earth has been through many 'NOT NORMAL' things. So to suggest global warming and all these other types of weather anomalies are not normal is only fooling yourself further. All this stuff they say about our pollution and energy use is causing GW, is just bullshit because the 'FACT' remains that the SUN is getting hotter and heating the core of the earth........it's truly simple.

If we survive, we survive and if we don't, we don't......

[klinker]

Sure thing dude but I am at work so info will have to be website links I'm afraid.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1694.cfm

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/wxwar.html

http://jerryesmith.com/

What have a learned about all this? In summary this is what I believe.

Global warming is a fraud.

Haarp facilities around the globe are being used to heat the ionosphere.

Chemtrails are used to alter/create weather fronts and reflect sunlight and possibly to detect energy signatures. They serve a variety of uses. The shit in them makes people ill but I am not sure if this is deliberate or simply a bonus for the NWO if the depopulation agenda is to be believed.

The present weather changes on this planet are NOT the sole responsibility of chemtrails and haarp. All planets in our solar system are showing changes in their weather. This I believe is down to changes in our sun which in turn is being influenced by whatever else is happening in space at this time. We are moving through space after all and something is kicking off out there.

[king]

Well guys, I hate to be the logical one here, but someone has to pull you in before you have a conspiracy overload.

Weather- The state of the atmosphere at a place and time as regards heat, sunshine, cloudiness, rain, wind, dryness...ect.

Ok, so here we see what weather is. I'm no meteorologist, but I do know that no one on this forum is over 120 years old and our detailed weather history doesn't even go back that far.

How the hell can we begin to suggest what is normal or what is not on this planet. We've been here for a very short period of time and our technology has just recently been able to actually interperet true weather patterns. Through geological survey and study, they've found the earth has been through many 'NOT NORMAL' things. So to suggest global warming and all these other types of weather anomalies are not normal is only fooling yourself further. All this stuff they say about our pollution and energy use is causing GW, is just bullshit because the 'FACT' remains that the SUN is getting hotter and heating the core of the earth........it's truly simple.

If we survive, we survive and if we don't, we don't......

if you are old enough to remember how weather used to be, and if you noticed how when when they started spraying chemtrails all began to change, and if you can feel the diferent kind of heat when you can see the signs on the skies when they use HAARP, and if you are observant of the skies, monitoring the skies every day -- then you KNOW what is normal, what not.

and, if in doubt -- check out the official chem and HAARP patents and who owns them and do not forget to what U.S. secretary of Defense said about weather as a wepon.


it is all documented and undisputable.
but, if you do not pay attention to world around you -- nothing will convince you.

it all boils down to knowing....

[gordonfreeman]

The weather seems pretty fine right now in California, for now.

[king]

The weather seems pretty fine right now in California, for now.


I am in southern Ca and they were chemming us overnight for months now.
you cannot even see your once beautiful hills anymore, much less the mountains.
on top of that, they were spraying just a few hours ago and now there is that white shit spreading again.

so, now we have day and night spraying it seems, and more and more cell towers being erected.

but, zombified nation does not seem to care.

[cleft_asunder]

I am in southern Ca and they were chemming us overnight for months now.
you cannot even see your once beautiful hills anymore, much less the mountains.
on top of that, they were spraying just a few hours ago and now there is that white shit spreading again.

so, now we have day and night spraying it seems, and more and more cell towers being erected.

but, zombified nation does not seem to care.

They are spraying you with vitamins, minerals, and penis enlargers. Wake up stupid. All is fine!

[james777]

They are spraying you with vitamins, minerals, and penis enlargers. Wake up stupid. All is fine!

LOL.....funny enough is that if you actually believe that, it will manifest in your own life......I'm up to 14 inches now....lol

[auron]

LOL.....funny enough is that if you actually believe that, it will manifest in your own life......I'm up to 14 inches now....lol

Mine is 2 inches.............. From the ground. :D

[king]

They are spraying you with vitamins, minerals, and penis enlargers. Wake up stupid. All is fine!

ok, mr. Bill Hicks



:D

[father ted]

I'm in adelaide and I rekn we're having our coldest winter ever. Other parts of the country as well... oh that's right, it's global warming, whew, that explains it, nothing to worry about children.

[hagbard_celine]

Have any of you got a cloudbuster out? If so, for God's sake put it away! When I walked to work yesterday I got soaked to the skin and today it was so cold I almost put on my jacket. Er... isn't it supposed to be summertime? :confused:

Check out Radio Orbit. They've got archived files of all the shows including one by weather manipulation expert Scott Stevens: http://www.radiorbit.com/archives.htm

[father ted]

Yeah, I can't wait for this global warming to kick in:rolleyes:, isn't it already supposed to be happenin?

[edelweiss pirate]

Problem with the weather?

You know who to call!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1463&highlight=forum+experiment

[cmdr_sabbathius]

In Southwestern Missouri for the last 3 weeks or so, there hasn't been a single 24-hour period go by where it didn't rain for maybe at least 10 minutes, usually at night. Also, there hasn't been any totally clear blue sky days. The sky's either hazy or overcast or at least half cloudy ALL the time.

Not that I mind it much, I'm not big on the sun and when the sun is out on a summer day it gets HOT! (and I don't like the heat.) My neighbour* and I were arguing the other day. He said that cloudiness would always hold heat in and make things hotter. I know that's true for Winter, but it certainly isn't true for Summer, right? Cause, naturally, if the sunlight isn't getting through the clouds in the summer, it's def. gonna be cooler.

* - yeah. I prefer to spell words the British way to be different from most Americans. :p

[sweet cheeks]

Just now, out of nowhere, it started to BUCKET down! I'm talking huge raindrops! I thought someone had just thrown a bucket at the window! At summer, for a whole week?? I suspect fowl play!

Flooding also up north, at summer?

*ehem* CHEMTRAILS *ehem, ehem*


Unites States Patent for controlling the weather -

Chemtrail Patents: United States Patent 4,686,605
Atmospheric Geoengineering is occuring in our skies daily, and on a worldwide basis.

For those who doubt the feasibility of these special operations, just take a look at the following Patents.

Chemtrail Patents:

Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
United States Patent 4,686,605 / Eastlund / August 11, 1987

A method and apparatus for altering at least one selected region which normally exists above the earth's surface. The region is excited by electron cyclotron resonance heating to thereby increase its charged particle density. In one embodiment, circularly polarized electromagnetic radiation is transmitted upward in a direction substantially parallel to and along a field line which extends through the region of plasma to be altered. The radiation is transmitted at a frequency which excites electron cyclotron resonance to heat and accelerate the charged particles. This increase in energy can cause ionization of neutral particles which are then absorbed as part of the region thereby increasing the charged particle density of the region.

Method of modifying weather
United States Patent 6,315,213 / Cordani / November 13, 2001

A method for artificially modifying the weather by seeding rain clouds of a storm with suitable cross-linked aqueous polymer. The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the clouds ability to rain.

Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
United States Patent / 5,286,979 / Berliner / February 15, 1994

This invention is a process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation in the atmosphere by dispersing melanin, its analogs, or derivatives into the atmosphere. By appropriate choice of melanin composition, size of melanin dispersoids, and their concentration, the melanin will absorb some quantity of ultraviolet radiation and thereby lessen its overall effect on the critters who would normally absorb such radiation.

Liquid atomizing apparatus for aerial spraying
United States Patent / 4,948,050 / Picot / August 14, 1990

A rotary liquid spray atomizer for aerial spraying is driven by a variable speed motor, driven in turn by power from a variable speed AC generator. The generator is driven from a power take-off from the engine of the spraying aircraft, a drive assembly includes a device for controlling the speed of the generator relative to the speed of the engine. The particularly convenient drive assembly between the generator and the power take-off is a hydraulic motor, which drives the generator, driven by a hydraulic pump driven from the power take-off. The speed of the hydraulic motor can be controllably varied. Conveniently the AC motor is a synchronous motor.

Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
United States Patent / 4,412,654 Yates / November 1, 1983

A laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying involve the use of a streamlined body having a slot in the trailing edge thereof to afford a quiescent zone within the wing and into which liquid for spraying is introduced. The liquid flows from a source through a small diameter orifice having a discharge end disposed in the quiet zone well upstream of the trailing edge. The liquid released into the quiet zone in the slot forms drops characteristic of laminar flow. Those drops then flow from the slot at the trailing edge of the streamlined body and discharge into the slipstream for free distribution.

ROCKET HAVING BARIUM RELEASE SYSTEM TO CREATE ION CLOUDS IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE
United States Patent: - US3813875 / Issued/Filed Dates: June 4, 1974 / April 28, 1972

A chemical system for releasing a good yield of free barium (Ba°) atoms and barium ions (BA+) to create ion clouds in the upper atmosphere and interplanetary space for the study of the geophysical properties of the medium. Inventor(s): Paine; Thomas O. Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration with respect to an invention of , Hampton, VA 23364

NASA: BARIUM - Chemical Formulas/Suppliers
source: gisgaia
This is the "Description of Preferred Embodiments" link in the NASA Barium Patent listed above. Astounding that this information was generated in l969 and now,30 years later, there is evidence of Barium saturation in our atmosphere.

The Barium/Fuel mixtures are listed below along with the suppliers.

Description of Preferred Embodiments:
Referring now to the drawings and more particularly to FIG. 1, there is shown a segment of a suitable carrier vehicle 10, such for example a rocket motor. Vehicle 10 is employed to carry fuel tank 11, insulated oxidizer tank 13 and combustion chamber 15, along with the necessary instrumentation, from earth into the upper atmosphere or into interplanetary space. Fuel tank 11 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 and oxidizer tank 13 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 by way of respective conduits 17 and 19. A pair of valves 21 and 23 are disposed within the respective conduits 17 and 19. Valves 21 and 23 are adapted to be selectively and simultaneously opened by a suitable battery-powered timing mechanism, radio signal, or the like, to release the pressurized fuel and oxidizer from tanks 11 and 13. The fuel and oxidizer then flow through conduits 17 and 19 and impinge upon each other through a centrally positioned manifold and suitable jets (not shown) in combustion chamber 15 where spontaneous ignition occurs. The reaction products are then expelled through the open ends of combustion chamber 15 as plasma which includes the desired barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species.

The fuel utilized in fuel tank 11 is either hydrazine (N2 H4) or liquid ammonia (NH3) while the oxidizer employed is selected from the group consisting of liquid fluorine (F2), chlorine trifluoride (ClF3) and oxygen difluoride (OF2). When using hydrazine as the fuel, barium may be dissolved therein as barium chloride, BaCl2, or barium nitrate, Ba(NO3)2, or a combination of the two. When using liquid ammonia as the fuel, barium metal may be dissolved therein. The combination found to produce the highest intensity of Ba° and Ba+ resonance radiation in ground based tests involved a fuel of 16 percent Ba(NO3)2, 17 percent BaCl2 and 67 percent N2 H4 ; and as the oxidizer, the cryogenic liquid fluorine F2 and in which an oxidizer to fuel weight ratio was 1.32.
Other combinations of ingredients tested are set forth in Table I below:

TABLE I
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System Optimum O/F Percent
Ionization
Calculated
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16.7% BaCl2 -
83.3% N2 H4 /ClF3
2.36 68.0
26% BaCl2 -
74% N2 H4 /ClF3
2.08 70.0
50% Ba(NO3)2 -
50% NH3 /ClF3
1.52 -
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
1.19 50.0
16.7% BaCl2 -
83.3% N2 H4 /F2
1.95 68.8
26% BaCl2 -
74% N2 H4 /F2
1.71 70.6
21% BaCl2 -
9% Ba(NO3)2 -
70% N2 H4 /F2
1.57 68.5
17% BaCl2 -
16% Ba(NO3)2 -
67% N2 H4 /F2
1.31 68.1
13% BaCl2 -
21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -
65.5% N2 H4 /F2
1.34 63.7
9% BaCl2 -
30% Ba(NO3)2 -
61% N2 H4 /F2
1.04 63.7
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /F2
0.976 43.0
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
0.694 46.9
26% BaCL2 -
74% N2 H4 /OF2
1.22 52.8
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The conditions under which each of the combinations listed in Table I were tested were ambient and the percentage ionization was calculated by equations set forth in NASA Contract Report CR-1415 published in August 1969.
The chemical supplier and manufacturers stated purity for the various chemicals employed are set forth in Table II below:
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Chemical
Supplier Purity
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N2 H4
Olin Mathieson Chemical
Technical Grade
Company, Lake Charles,
97-98% N2 H4
Louisiana (2-3% H2 O)

NH3
Air Products and Chemicals
Technical Grade
Allentown, Pa.

BaCl2
J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
Phillipsburg, N.J.

Ba(NO3)2
J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
Phillipsburg, N.J.

F2 Air Products & Chemicals
98%
Allentown, Pa.
ClF3
Allied Chemical Co.
99.5%
Baton Rouge, La.
OF2
Allied Chemical Co.
98%
Baton Rouge, La.
______________________________________

A solubility study of various mixtures containing Ba(NO3)2, BaCl2 and N2 H4 was made at room temperature and is shown in the triangular plot of FIG. 2. Seven solutions that were used in the tests enumerated in Table I are indicated by reference letters in FIG. 2 as follows:
a. 16.7% BaCl2 - 83.3% N2 H4
b. 26% BaCl2 - 74% N2 H4
c. 21% BaCl2 - 9% Ba(NO3)2 - 70% N2 H4
d. 17% BaCl2 - 16% Ba(NO3)2 - 67% N2 H4
e. 13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4
f. 9% BaCl2 - 30% Ba(NO3)2 - 61% N2 H4
g. 42.9% Ba(NO3)2 - 57.1% N2 H4

A mixture below the Saturation Line, that is toward the Ba(NO3)2 or BaCl2 corners contained a solid and a solution phase whereas the salts were in complete solution above the saturation line.
All fuel mixtures or systems described were easily handled except the 50 percent Ba(NO3)2 -50 percent NH3 system. This system caused clogging of the feed valves due to precipitation of the Ba(NO3)2. In addition the light values obtained using this system was relatively low.
In testing of each of the fuel mixtures set forth in Table I the Ba° light was greater than the Ba+ light for a given oxidizer/fuel ratio in each of the mixtures. The maximum light occurred in all systems at a point located between the stoichiometric O/F and 3 percent less than the stoichiometric O/F. The stoichiometric O/F is defined as being equivalent to the oxidizer to fuel weight ratio in a balanced equation assuming the salt is converted to free Ba, F to HF, Cl to HCl and O to H2 O. For example, one system tested had an O/F ratio of 142 grams oxidizer per 100 grams fuel or 1.42/1.00. If the barium is assumed to be converted to BaF2 then the stoichiometric O/F is 1.47. Since the greatest light output in all cases occurred with O/F less than stoichiometric it is apparent that little of the Ba was combined as BaF2 or BaCl2. This was confirmed by spectrographic analysis.
In Table II the various systems are listed in decreasing light output or relative light intensity as measured by phototubes in millivolts, thereby indicating the relative barium yield.
TABLE III
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SYSTEM MAXIMUM RELATIVE
(percent weight for fuel)
INTENSITY, millivolts
Ba° 5535 A
Ba+ 4554 A
__________________________________________________ _________
17% BaCl2 -16% Ba(NO3)2 -67% N2 H4 /F2
27600
11800
13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4 /F2
23600
8340
21% BaCl2 -9% Ba(NO3)2 -70% N2 H4 /F2
20600
9100
9% BaCl2 -30% Ba(NO3)2 -61% N2 H4 /F2
16600
5970
26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /F2
16600
6520
26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /OF2
11800
2100
16.7% BaCl2 -83.3% N2 H4 /F2
9100 3350
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /F2
9000 1800
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
7300 1330
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
663 94
50% Ba(NO3)2 -50% NH3 /ClF3
221 44
__________________________________________________ _________

From the above information, it is readily seen that the 17 percent BaCl2 -16 percent Ba(NO3)2 -67 percent N2 H4 /F2 system gave the greatest amount of light intensity of the 4554 A Ba+ and 5535 A Ba° spectral lines. Ambient tests showed that the optimum oxidizer to fuel ratio of this system was 1.32 to 1.00. This system containing 8.52 weight percent barium was estimated to be 68.1 percent ionized. Also since this system had the largest relative light intensity it would be expected to give the greatest amount of Ba° and Ba+ and would appear to be the optimum system for a barium payload. In all systems tested it was found that the relative light reached a maximum at the O/F corresponding to the stoichiometric equation yielding barium as one of the reaction products and that the relative light output was sensitive to the O/F. Moving to either side of the optimum O/F caused a sharp decrease in relative light.
In vacuum tests the ignition of each system tested was smooth and like the ambient tests, took place in the combustion chamber. The rapid expansion in vacuum caused a decreased atom and ion density in the luminous flame which caused the light intensity to be about 1/37 to 1/50 the intensity measured in ambient tests. The percentage ionization was approximately the same for vacuum and ambient tests.
The operation of the invention is now believed apparent. Initially, fuel tank 11 is charged with the fuel containing the desired quantity of dissolved barium salt and pressurized with helium. The fuel tank pressure may be in the range of 6.89 to 20.06 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2. Oxidizer tank 13 is also charged with the appropriate oxidizer and pressurized. Cryogenic oxidizers such as OF2 and F2 are condensed from gases in the closed oxidizer tank which must be maintained enclosed in a liquid nitrogen bath. The oxidizer feed valve 23 and conduit 19 must also be maintained at liquid nitrogen temperature with a liquid nitrogen jacket when employing a cryogenic oxidizer.
The noncryogenic oxidizer, ClF3, may be pressurized into the closed oxidizer tank 13 from a supply bottle with super dry nitrogen.
Combustion chamber 15 is formed of stainless steel, aluminum, or the like F2 compatible metals and is internally partitioned by the manifold, not shown. The conduits 17 and 19 terminate in a manifold having injector orifices (not shown) mounted 90° to each other within each end of chamber 15 and sized for pressure drops of 5.24 to 10.2 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2 across the orifice. Fuel and oxidizer flows are in the range of 2.05 to 6.82 Kg/sec each. The entire system is carried into the upper atmosphere or interplanetary space by rocket vehicle 10 where, in response to a suitable signal, timing mechanism or the like, valves 21 and 23 may be selectively opened and closed and the pressurized liquid fuel and oxidizer will flow through conduits 17 and 19 into combination unit 15. When the hypergolic liquids impinge upon each other, they spontaneously ignite to expel reaction product gases or plasma including the highly luminous barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species. All of the barium reaching the combustion chamber is vaporized and released through the opposite ends thereof so that a high yield efficiency is obtained. The resulting high flame temperature, approximately 4,000°K., and some as yet not determined chemical activation, produces a relatively large amount of barium ions in the flame which is a highly desirable condition. It has been estimated from spectroscopic measurements that the degree of ionization may be as high as 75 percent in the released plasma in comparison to being on the order of 1 percent for the previously used Ba-CuO solid system which depends almost entirely on solar photoionization, a time-dependent phenomena which further reduces the usable barium yield of this known system.
Thus, it is readily apparent that the present invention provides an inherently more efficient process of producing barium clouds wherein the degree of ionization in the released plasma is much greater. The selectively opening and closing of valves 21 and 23 gives the possibility of a payload with multiple releases permitted due to the start and stop capabilities of the liquid system. Also, the liquid system of the present invention gives the possibility of controlling rates so that a trailtype release can be obtained as well as a point-source type. In addition, the liquid system of the present invention effects the formation of barium atoms and ions at the time of combustion and expansion at high temperatures and results in little opportunity for the barium to condense during release.
There are obviously many variations and modifications to the present invention that will be readily apparent to those skilled in the art without departing from the spirit or scope of the disclosure or from the scope of the claims.

http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/US04686605__

[sweet cheeks]

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