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lumukanda
04-02-2009, 08:00 AM
i've recently found out about a series of stone structures that stretch from south africa to kenya, with a massive calendar in mpumulanga called adam's calendar which may be as old as 75 000 years old, which could make it the oldest structure on earth.

http://www.makomati.com/img/adamscalendarsunset.jpg


michael tellinger says that dravidic people were in southern africa mining gold in ancient times, he's also written a book in which he details enki creating man in southern africa to mine gold for the annunaki.

from the website (http://www.makomati.com/) :

A Rich and Diverse History

When historians first stumbled upon these structures they simply assumed that they were cattle kraal left behind by the Bantu people as they moved south and settled the land from around the 13th century. But research work done by people like Cyril Hromnik, Richard Wade, Johan Heine and a handful of others over the past twenty years, into ancient southern African history, has revealed that these stone structures are in fact more than just cattle kraal, but the remains of ancient temples and astronomical observatories of lost ancient civilisations that stretch back for thousands of years.

http://www.makomati.com/img/ruins1.jpg

These circular ruins are spread over thousands of square kilometres. They can only truly be appreciated from the air, and those lucky enough to view these ruins from the air will be able to see hundreds of ruins in a one-hour trip.

http://www.makomati.com/img/circlesruin.jpg

Many of them have almost completely eroded or have been covered by the movement of soil, while some have survived and still display the great sizes of the original walls that stand 2,5 metres high and over a metre wide in places. Prof Guy Charlesworth of Wits University concurs that if these were the original heights of some of the walls, it would have taken thousands of years to erode to knee-height through the effects of nature alone.

http://www.makomati.com/img/hexagon.jpg

An ancient road structure that is still visible for hundreds of kilometres once connected most or all of these ruins. It becomes evident that this was no accidental settlement but a well planned and evolved civilisation that were mining gold and had some means of transport. Extended agricultural terraces are spread over large areas, often resembling scenes from the Inca settlements in Peru. This would suggest that these people had a good knowledge of agriculture and planted produce extensively.

http://www.makomati.com/img/city.jpg

There is no real count or audit of these ruins at present, but it is estimated by those who have been flying over them for many years that there must be around 20,000 structures scattered all over southern and east Africa.

Astronomical Alignment

http://www.makomati.com/img/astroalign1.jpg

Many of the circular structures are aligned to specific geographic points including solstices and equinoxes. But only when Johan Heine began to experiment with other possible encoded geometry, that the real hidden secrets of the ruins began to emerge. They are riddled with sacred geometry, Reiki symbolism and the Phi factor or golden ratio of 1,618.

http://www.makomati.com/img/bov3i.jpg

The discovery of the ancient stone calendar site by Johan Heine (Adamís Calendar) in among all these stone dwellings and temples, would suggest that some of the structures would date back to the same era as the calendar some 75,000 years ago. It shows us with a certain level of clarity that these lost civilisations have been around for much longer than anyone could ever have imagined. It would not be absurd to then suggest that we may be staring at the very first concentrated human settlements inhabited by the early Homo sapiens.

http://www.makomati.com/img/symbolruin.jpg

http://www.makomati.com/img/compositeruin.jpg

http://www.makomati.com/img/ruinsabove.jpg

ADAMS CALENDAR HD T2 - YouTube

Adam's Calendar - YouTube

pinkfreud
04-02-2009, 09:48 AM
great thread lumukanda.

like i said in the other thread, i personally believe africa has strong ties to lemuria.

each 'root' of human civilisation seems to have left behind great monolithic structures- whether it's atlantis (easter islands, polynesia and so forth), stonehenge (druids) or lemuria.

never heard of adam's calendar till now, so thank you.

sadly there's not much information on the net :| how convenient... but i found this interesting bit on http://btflmind.blogspot.com/2008/07/michael-tellinger-launches-new-book.html:


Tellinger says: "This remarkable stone structure was originally a large circular structure resembling but predating Stonehenge by many thousands of years.

Adam's Calendar is built along the same longitudinal line as Great Zimbabwe and the Great Pyramid. It is also aligned with the rise of Orion's belt when it rose horizontally on the horizon some 75,000 years ago.

Adam's Calendar takes us further back in time closer to the emergence of Homo sapiens, than any other structure ever found to date. This discovery will force historians and archaeologists to reconsider ancient human activity and consciousness."



regarding monolithic and ancient (unexplained) stone structures... unknown to many, they also exist in tibet- (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2033199/posts)


http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6889/tibetmonolithir7.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tibetmonolithir7.jpg)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/tibetmonolithir7.jpg/1/w590.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img207/tibetmonolithir7.jpg/1/)

...This year, I discovered six of these sites which, in local culture, are frequently attributed to the Mon-pa or Gling Ge-sar of the Tibetan epic. The menhirs are often found in association with other types of structures...

The standing stones vary in height from 25 centimeters to 1.5 meters and can number many hundreds in a single complex. The stones appear to have been aligned in neat rows oriented to the cardinal directions. They are now often inclined, heavily worn and covered in lichen, indications of their substantial age. The menhirs appear to be constructed from both raw and dressed stones depending on their size and the particular site.


http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6213/tibetmonolith2un9.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tibetmonolith2un9.jpg)
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/tibetmonolith2un9.jpg/1/w590.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img113/tibetmonolith2un9.jpg/1/)


Earlier in the century, Western scholars did some pioneering work as have Chinese archaeologists more recently. In the 1920ís, the Central Asiatic Expedition of George Roerich uncovered megalithic sites and graves in the Changthang, which appeared to be typologically related to the Bronze Age and Iron Age barrows of Eurasia...

...Since the 1970ís, Chinese scientists have discovered Neolithic tools and paintings at a variety of places in the Changthang...

...Today at Black Rock there is no reliable source of potable water, however, according to paleoclimatological studies conducted by Chinese scientists in the region, a nearby lake contained freshwater as recently as 3000 years ago...


http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/33/tibetmonolith3iv4.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tibetmonolith3iv4.jpg)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/tibetmonolith3iv4.jpg/1/w284.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/tibetmonolith3iv4.jpg/1/)






well, i found another video on youtube regarding adam's calendar, which you may find useful:


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

lumukanda
04-02-2009, 01:09 PM
Adam's Calendar is built along the same longitudinal line as Great Zimbabwe and the Great Pyramid. It is also aligned with the rise of Orion's belt when it rose horizontally on the horizon some 75,000 years ago.

now that's the piece of info i was looking for, i had my suspicions, but thank you for that.

i am actually busy looking into this longitudal line, also known as the nilotic meridian, you can also add to that list timabavati, the place where the white lions appeared in the 70's.

also interesting about this meridian is the african magical river called lulungwa mangakatsi, also known as the river below or the river of gold.

here's something i wrote about it here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101&highlight=lulungwa):

the region she studies is the timbavati region in northern south africa, the home of the white lions of timbavati.
the name timbavati means both 'river of the stars' and 'the river that never runs dry. this draws a parallel between the egyptian 'duat', which meant 'river in the sky' and subterranean river'. whereas the nile flows all year round, the timbavati region is quite dry, the rivers seldom flow.

when she spoke to mutwa about the connection between the egyptian belief that the nile is to the earth what the milky way is to the skies, he said that the african belief is that the milky way is the 'spinal fluid' of the universe. he goes on to say that 'a lot of water is carried between the stars, and is distributed across space this way'. now amarava, mutwa's spirit guide, the last of the first people, told him that water is not native to earth, and that it was brought to earth from sirius, make of that what you will.

lulngwa mangakatsi is also called the underground river that holds africa together. the nilotic meridian, which is 31 degrees 14 minutes longitude, starts at the nile delta, and one can follow the nile down and it's source is also found on this line. follow the line further down and you will find great zimbabwe, follow it down even further you find timbavati and finally at the end of this line, the city of durban in zululand, originally given to the british by the notorious zulu chief Shaka.

now according to mutwa, beneath rivers, the nile in particular, are underground rivers, rivers of energy. i think it may be safe to assume that we are talking about ley lines.

credo gives her some advice, " the next time you find a flowing river in the veld (bush), go at night, with leather soles to that river. the nearer you get to the river, the more you will feel this thing, this vibration."
he goes on to say that fresh water rivers are living things, and they contain a memory. sanusis (the highest degree of african shamanism) are trained to see these memories, where these rivers intersect with underground rivers, they form great pipes of invisible power.

when asked whether there was a 'power line', an underground river of energy linking timbavati with giza, his reply was simple. Yes. also remember that included in this line is great zimbabwe, another ancient african site. this line, like zima-mbje, has something to do with gold, something mutwa does not want to elaborate on.

he does speak about the 'sacred blacksmiths', whose knowledge of herbs and molten matter enables them to 'recreate objects which god gave us many centuries ago', which have to do with 'the soul of the earth, butalso the universe beyond.'
this is obviously not only concerned with metals, but something of a more alchemical nature.

"Gold has been the cause of great civilizations, and of deadly wars on earth. by mining gold, human beings are enslaved to forces of which they are not even aware," says mutwa. i find this a very interesting statement.

he goes on to say that gold's natural existence in the bowels of the planet is essential to life on earth. specifically, i controls the flow and existence of fresh water. gold and copper (rather than gravity) supplies the energy that cause rivers to flow and be cleansed, since gold is not just a physical metal, but a spritual metal with a profound metaphysical purpose. gold is an entity, just as we have minerals in us, so has our earth, "it is not here to be mined by humankind."

apparently all along the nilotic meridian gold is found, mainly alluvial, leading tucker to believe that there may be a vein of gold running form giza to durban, i don't know if this is true, but the amount of gold mining in the johannesburg, great zimbabwe, timbabvati region, all near or on the nilotic meridian, in both modern and ancient times does make this quite compelling. take also into account the fact that gold is a good conducter of energy, so is water, the nile may indeed be a very charged river indeed.

something else which really has me thinking is the fact that this may be part of the lost ma-iti culture, a race of white people who enslaved the africans above the limpopo river in antiquity, they were eventually destroyed but their legacy lived on in the mixed race lujiviti people who amongst other things built great zimbabwe and were involved in the mining of gold.

gold is a very central theme when it comes to ancient cultures in southern africa, strange when one considers that ancient africans traditional beliefs forbade them from mining due to the disturbance it would cause in the earth.
the bit in bold in the quote above really interests me.

tifavi
04-02-2009, 05:02 PM
Thank you Lumukanda for telling about this!

In my very personal quest of connecting the dots I hit a huge brick wall a few weeks ago.

Namely this...http://www.articlesextra.com/toba-supervolcano-indonesia.htm
and this...http://www.newswales.co.uk/index.php?section=Environment&F=1&id=7700.

Somewhere I read that the population of humanoids at the time would have been around 2 to 3 million. And I can't say that I've heard of any structures before this time frame.

So I figured that they all lived in caves and were extremely environmentally conscious :o

Thanks to you I know better. This is really amazing!
There must be tons of stuff hidden from us if we just dig deep enough

lumukanda
10-02-2009, 07:32 AM
bump :D

pinkfreud
12-02-2009, 07:00 AM
hey lumukanda,


just thought you'd be interested in this: http://www.goroadachi.com/timerivers/niledecoded-p1.htm

it's a 3 page thesis explaining the amazing synchronicity between the nile, the orion star cluster and the great pyramid- it also mentions the 'nilotic latitudes'.

i find it 'strange' that the white lions of africa and the sphinx at giza are located along the very same meridian.

i haven't read all of it yet, but it looks fascinating. hope this helps.

lumukanda
12-02-2009, 07:05 AM
thanks pinkfreud, i'm going to have a look at this right now.

i have a book called the atlantis blueprint in which the author says that if you swapped the greenwich line for the nilotic meridian, ie. made the nilotic meridian 0 degrees, you can actually begin to plot exactly where you will find ancient sites.

i should actually re-read that book, the nilotic meridian is popping up all over the place for me lately.

thanks again!

pinkfreud
12-02-2009, 07:09 AM
anytime :)

i also have a feeling that the earth's prime meridian actually runs through africa, and not greenwich as we've been made to believe. but i'm not sure, will have to look that up in some time.

lumukanda
12-02-2009, 07:23 AM
i'm bit hazy on the details but mutwa said somewhere that either lululngwa mangakatsi or the nilotic meridian (still not quite sure if they're the same thing, i think so though) is the line which holds the world together, not quite sure what he meant by that, but he gives it great importance.

pinkfreud
12-02-2009, 07:48 AM
i'm bit hazy on the details but mutwa said somewhere that either lululngwa mangakatsi or the nilotic meridian (still not quite sure if they're the same thing, i think so though) is the line which holds the world together, not quite sure what he meant by that, but he gives it great importance.


hmm...

just googled 'nilotic meridian' and searched around till i came across 'zep tepi'.

zep tepi is egyptian for 'first time'. as per wikipedia (which had nothing on zep tepi, save for one line' states that: 'Zep Tepi is a supposed "Golden Age" in Egyptian mythology when the gods ruled the world, and when human kind acquired the initial elements of civilization.'

so i dug deeper, will just paste some excerpts i came across-



from http://www.crystalinks.com/zeptepi.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/zeptepi.html):

Along with the list of mythological gods we find encoded in the grid stories of the creation (http://www.crystalinks.com/creation.html) of the human experiment, we also find the Zep Tepi.

As with all legends, this is metaphoric in content, a connection between the Atlantean grid program and the ancient Egypt grid.

Within the void called Time and Space there are those who move from reality to reality creating the programs in which souls experience. They move through the place known as Zero Point (Zero Meridian?) where matter and antimatter merge to create new realities.

It is the place where positive and negative collide to destroy matter and recreate new.

It is a place of awakening and a place of forgetfulness.

It is the beginning and the end of all and everything.

It is the home of the creational forces, those who bend and shape realities through sound, light and color.

The term Zep, Zipper, closing and opening, rips in time, movement through space time, DNA as a polymer or encoded DNA.

Zep Tepi is Genesis. Zep means Time. Tepi means First. Together they are the 'First Time' or the Golden Age (Alchemy (http://www.crystalinks.com/alchemyindex.html)) where the gods moved through the Void and created the grid of our reality.

We know them as the Pantheon of Egyptian Gods, (http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptgodsindex.html) Ptah, Ra, Su, Geb, Set, Osiris (http://www.crystalinks.com/osiris.html), (associated with Orion, god of resurrection and rebirth,) Horus, Ma'at , and Thoth (http://www.crystalinks.com/thoth.html) who came to this realm, loosely based on the precession of the equinoxes, (http://www.crystalinks.com/precession.html) approximately 12,500 year ago, give or take a few hundred years.

Their sacred message was allegedly recorded in the Emerald Tablet of Thoth the Atlantean (http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html) who, as the God, Tehuti, was the ruler of Atlantis (http://www.crystalinks.com/atlantis.html) for an unspecified period of time, coming and going through the story of its existence.

At Zep Tepi, the constellation Orion (http://www.crystalinks.com/orion.html)acknowledged as the most significant constellation to the ancient Egyptians, was at its lowest position in the southern sky.

From Zep Tepi onward, precession of the equinoxes has been gradually carrying Orion/Osiris higher and higher in the sky.

The Sphinx (http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinx.html) is positioned such that in 10,500 BC - time of Zep Tepi - give or take a few hundred years, a remarkable astronomical arrangement of the Sun, Orion, and the constellation of Leo occurred. Leo, Lion, Crown, King.




fascinating, isn't it? read more on that link.


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from http://www.hol.com/~johnboy/Reticulum.htg/Reticulum.htm (http://www.hol.com/~johnboy/Reticulum.htg/Reticulum.htm):


The Great Pyramid sits at the Northern Latitude of 29.976 degrees.

What is not known to many is that the Great Pyramid 'mirrors' (precisely one/10 millionth ) the 'speed of light' in meters per second!

And within 14 miles per second of our present calculation of the speed of light in 'meters per second' (299 792 458 meters per second), we derive-

29.9769770 x 10,000,000 = 299,769,770.

As such, 29.98 degrees Northern Latitude is the only 'degree of latitude' that comes the closest to implying 'light speed' in meters per second.



more on the site... it's purely physics based, but does shed a lot of insight into the connections being extraterrestrial 'life' in egypt and its connection to the pyramids.


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"Zep Tepi" - Egyptian Creation Myths - YouTube

author robert bauval's take on the egypt we've never been told about.



i think zep tepi has a lot to do with adam's calendar, lumukanda.

perhaps both are linked to this zero meridian or 'the line that holds the world together' as stated by mutwa.

lumukanda
12-02-2009, 08:07 AM
i've read of zep-tepi before, and i think you're right, there is a link.
something that sprang to mind while reading about zep-tepi is ta-neter, which is compared to the land of the watchers in the book of enoch, but also to lemuria's golden age and the african story called the sacred story of the tree of life (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361) that describes the fall of that civilization.

biblegirl
10-10-2009, 07:17 AM
just found this thread, awesome :)

monay
13-01-2010, 11:04 PM
This is a link to a useful timeline and maps. Many people are not on the same page with African history. I learned the little that I know from Creole sources and a close friend of Anna Riva. Anna Riva was a voodoo Queen and really could walk on water as well as many other skills.


http://wysinger.homestead.com/ancientafrica.html

These are the nations of the Djinn and flying carpets. I think that the Cush invented Wootz steel and taught the Egyptians much.

darkman
14-01-2010, 06:24 PM
anytime :)

i also have a feeling that the earth's prime meridian actually runs through africa, and not greenwich as we've been made to believe. but i'm not sure, will have to look that up in some time.

you could be right as its meantime so they make us think by time from this line, maybe when inactuall fact our earthenergy line is the african 1 , greewich meantime line run thru my town but even the local council marked in the wrong place !plus what has the queen now taken on with greeenwich this past week
this is fasanating stuff also would this nubian timeline aswell or is that later

the cosmos
14-01-2010, 06:56 PM
/snip

I live about 2-3 hours drive from this site. Never been there, but have been planning on visiting it.

tifavi
23-06-2012, 12:58 PM
Perhaps one of the better historylessons I've had in years.:)

http://galacticchannelings.com/english/abzu.html