The Templars

[lightgiver]

With their military mission and extensive financial resources, the Knights Templar funded a large number of building projects around Europe and the Holy Land. Many of these structures are still standing. Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" due to centuries-old association with the Templars. For example, some of the Templars' lands in London were later rented to lawyers, which led to the names of the Temple Bar gateway and the Temple tube station. Two of the four Inns of Court which may call members to act as barristers are the Inner Temple and Middle Temple.

There was a threefold division of the ranks of the Templars: the aristocratic knights, the lower-born sergeants, and the clergy. Knights were required to be of knightly descent, and to wear white mantles. They were equipped as heavy cavalry, with three or four horses, and one or two squires. Squires were generally not members of the Order, but were instead outsiders who were hired for a set period of time. Beneath the knights in the Order and drawn from lower social strata were the sergeants. They were either equipped as light cavalry with a single horse, or served in other ways such as administering the property of the Order or performing menial tasks and trades. Chaplains, constituting a third Templar class, were ordained priests who saw to the Templars' spiritual needs.

Since at least the 1700s the York Rite of Freemasonry has incorporated some Templar symbols and rituals, and has a modern degree called "the Order of the Temple". The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem.

In 2001, a document known as the "Chinon Parchment" was found in the Vatican Secret Archives, apparently after having been filed in the wrong place in 1628. It is a record of the trial of the Templars, and shows that Clement absolved the Templars of all heresies in 1308, before formally disbanding the Order in 1312.

[boots]

Good OP lightgiver.

In 2001, a document known as the "Chinon Parchment" was found in the Vatican Secret Archives, apparently after having been filed in the wrong place in 1628. It is a record of the trial of the Templars, and shows that Clement absolved the Templars of all heresies in 1308, before formally disbanding the Order in 1312.

That document has been spoken about for a long time. Good find LG.

NO mason can accept this because it's the truth and truth hurt's for the mind controlled.

They took a wide berth on the thread I posted as this related to the Templars as well.

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[wisdomgirl]

Any mason who still believes that freemasonary is above board is deluded. The templars built roslyn for the st clair family in scotland.

[entrangermercenary]

With their military mission and extensive financial resources, the Knights Templar funded a large number of building projects around Europe and the Holy Land. Many of these structures are still standing. Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" due to centuries-old association with the Templars. For example, some of the Templars' lands in London were later rented to lawyers, which led to the names of the Temple Bar gateway and the Temple tube station. Two of the four Inns of Court which may call members to act as barristers are the Inner Temple and Middle Temple.

There was a threefold division of the ranks of the Templars: the aristocratic knights, the lower-born sergeants, and the clergy. Knights were required to be of knightly descent, and to wear white mantles. They were equipped as heavy cavalry, with three or four horses, and one or two squires. Squires were generally not members of the Order, but were instead outsiders who were hired for a set period of time. Beneath the knights in the Order and drawn from lower social strata were the sergeants. They were either equipped as light cavalry with a single horse, or served in other ways such as administering the property of the Order or performing menial tasks and trades. Chaplains, constituting a third Templar class, were ordained priests who saw to the Templars' spiritual needs.

Since at least the 1700s the York Rite of Freemasonry has incorporated some Templar symbols and rituals, and has a modern degree called "the Order of the Temple". The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem.

In 2001, a document known as the "Chinon Parchment" was found in the Vatican Secret Archives, apparently after having been filed in the wrong place in 1628. It is a record of the trial of the Templars, and shows that Clement absolved the Templars of all heresies in 1308, before formally disbanding the Order in 1312.

On a drink fuelled nite just after xmas at the wifes relations, it was let slip that she has an uncle who is a knights templar. The person who let this slip was told v quickly to shut up. Now the man in question is a multi- millionaire.What was said he had to bring a young boy back across the sahara to earn his spurs as such ?? !! This would ov been in the 60s I am guessing.
I did try and carry on with the subject but no joy. What does any body know of the existence of the knights Templars today or the organisation that they evolved into??

[boots]

On a drink fuelled nite just after xmas at the wifes relations, it was let slip that she has an uncle who is a knights templar. The person who let this slip was told v quickly to shut up. Now the man in question is a multi- millionaire.What was said he had to bring a young boy back across the sahara to earn his spurs as such ?? !! This would ov been in the 60s I am guessing.
I did try and carry on with the subject but no joy. What does any body know of the existence of the knights Templars today or the organisation that they evolved into??

Very interesting EM,


From all accounts they disbanded. You can do that but that doesn't mean people wont carry it on in secret, as was put in the OP they then became the freemasons But if this true what you said? then it's very telling.

wisdomgirl
The templars built roslyn for the st clair family in scotland. 17-01-2009 07:07 PM

They have kept it alive in stone.

Have you been to Roslyn chapel, entrangermercenary?

[grandsecretary]

The York Rite has no connection whatsoever with the original Order of the Temple. Neither is there any actual connection with the United Grand Lodge of England. Nor is there any direct connection with the Grand Lodge of Scotland. All of these Masonic organisations have "Knights Templar" Masonic revivals, supported by rituals of commemoration. They are not Knights Templar in the true sense, and as far as I know they do not claim such.

The Grand Lodge of All England however, is another matter, where there is direct connection with the original Knights Templar.

I have posted a biography of Brother Richard de Hastings on the thread "Did you know HE was a Freemason #782".

I will post the biographies of Brother Gilbert de Clare and Brother Pierre D'Aubusson once I have completed this response.

[rich157]

It is a record of the trial of the Templars, and shows that Clement absolved the Templars of all heresies in 1308, before formally disbanding the Order in 1312.


From all accounts they disbanded. You can do that but that doesn't mean people wont carry it on in secret.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s98/Mitchell_090/lovinit.jpg?t=1232196421


1313 is when things start to get interesting. :D

[entrangermercenary]

Very interesting EM,


From all accounts they disbanded. You can do that but that doesn't mean people wont carry it on in secret, as was put in the OP they then became the freemasons But if this true what you said? then it's very telling.

wisdomgirl


They have kept it alive in stone.

Have you been to Roslyn chapel, entrangermercenary?

Well the people I was talking to are also masons.But it was deffo knights templar and the sahara thing was his initiation.Lets get one thing straight before anything else I have nothing against Masons at all as my grandad was in the order of the buffaloes which is not quite the same thing , but rather a poormans version from what I can gather. I have a couple of friends who are masons as well, but have them on there toes when I mention 33rd degree masons etc. :eek:

Roslyn chapel no ive never been to that location :)

[entrangermercenary]

The York Rite has no connection whatsoever with the original Order of the Temple. Neither is there any actual connection with the United Grand Lodge of England. Nor is there any direct connection with the Grand Lodge of Scotland. All of these Masonic organisations have "Knights Templar" Masonic revivals, supported by rituals of commemoration. They are not Knights Templar in the true sense, and as far as I know they do not claim such.

The Grand Lodge of All England however, is another matter, where there is direct connection with the original Knights Templar.

I have posted a biography of Brother Richard de Hastings on the thread "Did you know HE was a Freemason #782".

I will post the biographies of Brother Gilbert de Clare and Brother Pierre D'Aubusson once I have completed this response.

Thanks for the reply:) Now the direct connection with the original KNIGHTS TEMPLAR is very intresting, and I think another drinking session is on the cards, except mine is going in the flower pot;). All I need to find out now is that the wife shapeshifts as well :eek:

[eastbeast]

Any mason who still believes that freemasonary is above board is deluded.

Anybody who believes anything is above board is deluded.

Freemasonary under UGLE is not evil, we don't do human sacrifices, we don't molest children {or Adults} etc.etc.etc.

But please don't let what we tell you all is the truth change your minds from the pointless foundless lies that many Antis have blinded you with. Its never a good idea to discover what the truth is for yourself, its much better to read a load of crap on the Internet, if its on the Internet it must be true.

[grandsecretary]

Well the people I was talking to are also masons.But it was deffo knights templar and the sahara thing was his initiation.Lets get one thing straight before anything else I have nothing against Masons at all as my grandad was in the order of the buffaloes which is not quite the same thing , but rather a poormans version from what I can gather. I have a couple of friends who are masons as well, but have them on there toes when I mention 33rd degree masons etc. :eek:

Roslyn chapel no ive never been to that location :)

The Knights Templar were real. The Masonic Knights Templar in America are not real, just commemorative.

Please think about it. Freemasonry did not exist in America until the 18th century. The Grand Lodge of London (now part of the UGLE) was started in 1723, long after the Knights Templar were disbanded. They too have no connection with the real Knights Templar, and neither of them (America and the UGLE) claim such a connection.

It is quite clear and an historic fact.

[grandsecretary]

Any mason who still believes that freemasonary is above board is deluded. The templars built roslyn for the st clair family in scotland.

That is a theory that has not been proven.

[rich157]

What if you find out some of your ancient family were Knights Templar ? Is that good or bad ?

[grandsecretary]

What if you find out some of your ancient family were Knights Templar ? Is that good or bad ?

It depends on what you think about the Knights Templar.

If you are a Christian I would presume that you would be very proud, but if you are a Jew, or a Muslim - :eek::eek::eek:

Don't forget that the Crusades were essentially about the ownership and control of Jerusalem.

It is the same battle that is going on today.

[rich157]

It depends on what you think about the Knights Templar.

If you are a Christian I would presume that you would be very proud

No, not proud. Just intrigued.

Ancient family were Knights Templar & I was born 666 years after the 'end' of the Templars at 6:36, 6/6. :D

[grandsecretary]

No, not proud. Just intrigued.

Ancient family were Knights Templar & I was born 666 years after the 'end' of the Templars at 6:36, 6/6. :D

How do you know, I am intrigued as well?

[rich157]

How do you know, I am intrigued as well?

My family came to England, from France in 1066. (Norman conquest)

They ended up settling in Shropshire in 1086.

Some of them went on to become Knights Templar.

:)

[grandsecretary]

My family came to England, from France in 1066. (Norman conquest)

They ended up settling in Shropshire in 1086.

Some of them went on to become Knights Templar.

:)

Really. How do you know that they were Knights of the Temple?

[entrangermercenary]

The Knights Templar were real. The Masonic Knights Templar in America are not real, just commemorative.

Please think about it. Freemasonry did not exist in America until the 18th century. The Grand Lodge of London (now part of the UGLE) was started in 1723, long after the Knights Templar were disbanded. They too have no connection with the real Knights Templar, and neither of them (America and the UGLE) claim such a connection.

It is quite clear and an historic fact.

Im English by the way. Could it be possible that you do not know if the knights templar still exsisted in secrecy throughout the ages!! Just a thought :)

[lightgiver]

On a drink fuelled nite just after xmas at the wifes relations, it was let slip that she has an uncle who is a knights templar. The person who let this slip was told v quickly to shut up. Now the man in question is a multi- millionaire.What was said he had to bring a young boy back across the sahara to earn his spurs as such ?? !! This would ov been in the 60s I am guessing.
I did try and carry on with the subject but no joy. What does any body know of the existence of the knights Templars today or the organisation that they evolved into??

We have to connect the dots and look into the past,not the past we have been force fed.

http://the-red-thread.net/index.html

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=8250619454941053618&ei=7jhySavVIInojgLngsm5BQ&q=ring+of+power+part+1&hl=en

and the templars still DO exist,well not in the ultimate scope of Phenomena;)

Do not be fooled by all this disbandment nonsense.same cloth different colour.

Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" due to centuries-old association with the Templars.

[entrangermercenary]

We have to connect the dots and look into the past,not the past we have been force fed.

http://the-red-thread.net/index.html

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=8250619454941053618&ei=7jhySavVIInojgLngsm5BQ&q=ring+of+power+part+1&hl=en

and the templars still DO exist,well not in the ultimate scope of Phenomena;)

Do not be fooled by all this disbandment nonsense.same cloth different colour.

Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" due to centuries-old association with the Templars.


Ta for the links will check them 2morrow :)

[grandsecretary]

Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" due to centuries-old association with the Templars.

Really? Some examples please.

[lightgiver]

Really? Some examples please.

In plain view;) If you have a look.

[boots]

In plain view;) If you have a look.

They chose not to. LG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e5slTxJ5tng/SU9FXl5iEmI/AAAAAAAAAhs/ONjd8n6euaw/s400/TempleBar.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e5slTxJ5tng/SU9FXl5iEmI/AAAAAAAAAhs/ONjd8n6euaw/s1600-h/TempleBar.jpg)The Temple Bar consists of what are called Inns of Court. There are four Inns of Court as follows: Inner Temple, Middle Temple, Lincoln's Inn and Gray's Inn. It is believed that the Inner Temple controls the legal system of Canada and Britain while the Middle Temple controls the legal system of the United States, though all Inns are themselves controlled by the same few at the top.

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[grandsecretary]

They chose not to. LG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e5slTxJ5tng/SU9FXl5iEmI/AAAAAAAAAhs/ONjd8n6euaw/s400/TempleBar.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e5slTxJ5tng/SU9FXl5iEmI/AAAAAAAAAhs/ONjd8n6euaw/s1600-h/TempleBar.jpg)The Temple Bar consists of what are called Inns of Court. There are four Inns of Court as follows: Inner Temple, Middle Temple, Lincoln's Inn and Gray's Inn. It is believed that the Inner Temple controls the legal system of Canada and Britain while the Middle Temple controls the legal system of the United States, though all Inns are themselves controlled by the same few at the top.

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One, Temple Bar, does not make many. We already know this one.

[boots]

One, Temple Bar, does not make many. We already know this one.


It is in the city of London Which is very telling.



So how are these three cities ultimately connected? We must first go back to the Knights Templar and their initial 200-year reign of power. The Knights Templar were first called "the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and the Temple of Solomon." This is a blatantly misleading title, considering the immense wealth and power of the Templars, who operated 9,000 manors across Europe and owned all the mills and markets. It was the Templars that issued the first paper money for public use in Europe, establishing the fiat banking system we know today. In England, the Templars established their headquarters at a London temple, which still exists today and is called Temple Bar. This is located in the City of London, between Fleet Street and Victoria Embankment. The aforementioned "Crown," to be exact, is the Knights Templar church, also known as the Crown Temple. It is the Crown Temple that controls the legal/court system of the US, Canada and many other countries. All bar associations are directly linked to the International Bar Association and the Inns of Court at Crown Temple in the City of London. Anytime you hear somebody refer to the Bar Association, they are talking about a British/Masonic system that has nothing to do with a country's sovereignty or the constitutional rights of its people. This is why, when you go to court in the US, you see the US flag with a gold fringe, denoting international rule. The government of the United States, Canada and Britain are all subsidiaries of the crown, as is the Federal Reserve in the US. The ruling Monarch in England is also subordinate to the Crown. The global financial and legal system is controlled from the City of London by the Crown. The square mile making up the center of Greater London is the global seat of power, at least at the visible level.

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[grandsecretary]

It is in the city of London Which is very telling.



So how are these three cities ultimately connected? We must first go back to the Knights Templar and their initial 200-year reign of power. The Knights Templar were first called "the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and the Temple of Solomon." This is a blatantly misleading title, considering the immense wealth and power of the Templars, who operated 9,000 manors across Europe and owned all the mills and markets. It was the Templars that issued the first paper money for public use in Europe, establishing the fiat banking system we know today. In England, the Templars established their headquarters at a London temple, which still exists today and is called Temple Bar. This is located in the City of London, between Fleet Street and Victoria Embankment. The aforementioned "Crown," to be exact, is the Knights Templar church, also known as the Crown Temple. It is the Crown Temple that controls the legal/court system of the US, Canada and many other countries. All bar associations are directly linked to the International Bar Association and the Inns of Court at Crown Temple in the City of London. Anytime you hear somebody refer to the Bar Association, they are talking about a British/Masonic system that has nothing to do with a country's sovereignty or the constitutional rights of its people. This is why, when you go to court in the US, you see the US flag with a gold fringe, denoting international rule. The government of the United States, Canada and Britain are all subsidiaries of the crown, as is the Federal Reserve in the US. The ruling Monarch in England is also subordinate to the Crown. The global financial and legal system is controlled from the City of London by the Crown. The square mile making up the center of Greater London is the global seat of power, at least at the visible level.

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You do talk twaddle sometimes.

1) When did the Knights Templar fly to Washington DC then?

2) What about the Bar Council?

3) We have a constitutional monarchy here old lad not an absolute monarchy.

Please do not re-write history for you own nefarious ends.

[grandsecretary]

The General Council of the Bar (known as the Bar Council) was founded in 1894 to represent the interests of barristers. As the governing body for the Bar its role is to promote and improve the services and functions of the Bar, and to represent the interests of the Bar on all matters relating to the profession, whether trade union, disciplinary, public interest or in any way affecting the administration of justice.

Bar Council Members

Chairman
Mr Desmond Browne QC

Vice Chairman
Mr Nicholas Green QC

Treasurer
Mr Andrew Mitchell QC

Ex Officio Members

The Rt Hon Baroness Scotland of Asthal QC- Attorney General
Ms Vera Baird QC MP - Solicitor General
Mr Stuart Brown QC - Leader, North Eastern Circuit
Miss Margaret Bowron QC - London Common Law & Commercial Bar Association
Mr Gareth Evans QC - Leader, Midland Circuit
Mr Richard Marks QC - Leader, Northern Circuit
Mr Peter Lodder QC - Chairman, Criminal Bar Association
Mr Winston Roddick QC - Leader, Wales and Chester Circuit
Mr Stephen Leslie QC - Leader, South Eastern Circuit
Mr Keir Starmer QC - Director of Public Prosecutions
Miss Lucy Theis QC - Chairman, Family Law Bar Association
Mr Michael Todd QC - Chairman, Chancery Bar Association
Mr Robin Tolson QC - Leader, Western Circuit
Miss Christiane Valansot - Chairman, Bar Association for Commerce, Finance & Industry

Inns Representatives

Mr John Howell QC - Middle Temple
Mr Matthias Kelly QC - Gray's Inn
Mr Stephen Leslie QC - Lincoln's Inn
Miss Adrienne Page QC - Middle Temple
Mr Richard Parkes QC - Gray's Inn
Mr Robert Rhodes QC – Inner Temple
Mr Richard Salter QC - Inner Temple
Mr Jalil Asif – Lincoln’s Inn
Mr Zachary Bredemear - Inner Temple
Mr Kenneth Craig - Lincoln's Inn
Ms Christina Michalos - Gray's Inn
Mr David Wurtzel - Middle Temple

Circuit Representatives

Mr David Aubrey QC - Wales & Chester Circuit
Miss Suzanne Goddard QC - Northern Circuit
Mr Mark Wall QC - Midland Circuit
Mr Andrew Mitchell QC - South Eastern Circuit
Mr Francis Paul Watson QC - North Eastern Circuit
Mr Francis Abbott - Western Circuit
Mr Richard Atkins - Midland Circuit
Mr Jaime Hamilton - Northern Circuit
Mr Adam Davis - South Eastern Circuit
Mr Adam Hiddleston – Western Circuit
Mr John Elvidge - North Eastern Circuit
Miss Caroline Harris - Wales and Chester Circuit

Association Representatives

Mr Paul Darling QC - Technology & Construction Bar Association
Mr Nicholas Dowding QC – Property Bar Association
Mrs Jane Giret QC - Chancery Bar Association
Mr Martin Griffiths QC - Employment Law Bar Association
Mr Ali Malek QC - COMBAR Chairman
Mr Richard Miller QC - Intellectual Property Bar Association
Mr Mirza Ahmad - Bar Association for Local Government and the Public Service
Miss Julie Anderson - Bar European Group
Mr Stephen Bacon - Bar Association for Commerce Finance & Industry
Mr Jonathan Bellamy - London Common Law & Commerial Bar Association
Mr Ivor Collett - Professional Negligence Bar Association
Mr John Cooper - Criminal Bar Association
Miss Martha Cover - Family Law Bar Association
Ms Deana Smith - Society of Justice's Clerks
Mr Gregory Jones - The Constitutional and Administrative Law Bar Association
Miss Melanie McIntosh - Planning & Environment Bar Association
Mr Hefin Rees - Personal Injuries Bar Association
Mr Michael Sherry - Revenue Bar Association
Mr Kris Venkatasami - Crown Prosecution Service
Mr Mark Wilson - Government legal Service

Queen's Counsel

Mr David Etherington QC
Susan Grocott QC
Miss Kim Hollis QC
Sir Ivan Lawrence QC
Maura McGowan QC
Philip Moor QC

Junior Counsel over 7 year's Call

Mr Nicholas Lavender QC
Mr Zubair Ahmad
Mr Jeremy Barnett
Mr Marc Beaumont
Mr Paul Bogan
Mr Ian Bugg
Mr Mark Bryant-Heron
Mr Timothy Devlin
Mrs Jean France-Hayhurst
Mr Adam Goodison
Mr Charles Hale
Mr Edward Henry
Mr Rex Howling
Miss Fiona Jackson
Miss Taryn Lee
Mr Tom Little
Ms Eleanor Mawrey
Mr Pavlos Panayi
Mr Steven Thompson
Mr Shahram Sharghy
Mr Andrew P D Walker

Junior Counsel under 7 year's Call

Miss Charanjit Batt
Miss Julia Beer
Miss Georgina Cole
Mr Fraser Coxhill
Mr Alexander Learmonth
Mr David Nicholls
Mr Faisal Osman
Miss Tahmina Rahman
Miss Vivienne Tanchel
Mr Kevin Toomey
Ms Belle Turner
Miss Shelley White

Junior Counsel over 7 year's Call (Emp)

Mr Nicholas Burn
Mr Brian Cahill
Mr Stephen Collier
Miss Melissa-Louise Coutino
Mr Simon Edwards
Miss Amanda-Jane Field
Miss Tricia Howse CBE
Ms Fiona McCreath
Mrs Michele Parnell

Junior Counsel under 7 year's Call (Emp)

Mr Colin Andress
Mr Adam Baradon
Mr Thomas Carpenter
Miss Rebecca Major
Miss Lucinda Orr
Miss Shonali Routray

Co Opted Members

Mr Duncan Matthews QC
Mr Michael Patchett-Joyce

Thanks to the Bar Council website. I feel sure that all of these learned men and women will be horrified to learn from boots that they are all controlled by the Freemasons. I suggest a letter of complaint to the Bar Council without delay. Let us know what they say will you?

[mike martin]

Im English by the way. Could it be possible that you do not know if the knights templar still exsisted in secrecy throughout the ages!! Just a thought :)
There is a small (reality check) problem with that idea.

Back in the day if you were supressed you were really supressed. The power of the 14th century Knights Templar lay in their capital assets ie money and land. The problem with the whole "they carried on in secret" idea is that the money and lands they owned (outside of France) was all given to the other major Monastic Knights, the Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem (today usually called the Knights Hospitaller). This would have meant that any carry on by the original KTs would have just been trading on their old reputation and with none of the actual power that they had.

Mike

[grandsecretary]

There is a small (reality check) problem with that idea.

Back in the day if you were supressed you were really supressed. The power of the 14th century Knights Templar lay in their capital assets ie money and land. The problem with the whole "they carried on in secret" idea is that the money and lands they owned (outside of France) was all given to the other major Monastic Knights, the Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem (today usually called the Knights Hospitaller). This would have meant that any carry on by the original KTs would have just been trading on their old reputation and with none of the actual power that they had.

Mike

There are Knights Templar organisations that claim descendancy from the original Knights Templars. One of them is in the process of determining this claim in law in a suit against the Holy See in Rome.

This is a key action in Europe to determine the legal method of measuring "descendancy".

[mike martin]

Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" due to centuries-old association with the Templars.

Ah, almost right.

It is true that many places have "Temple" in their name due to their historical association with the orginal KTs. However, not quite as you want to make it seem, they were the site of Templar farms, churches etc. However there are others that are called Temple but not related to the KTs, like Temple in Dorset which was the site of a Roman temple.

Some KT examples, off the top of my head:

Temple Meads in Bristol, Templecombe in Bristol, Temple Newsam in Yorkshire,
Temple Sowerby in Cumbria and Cressing Temple in Essex.

Mike

[grandsecretary]

Ah, almost right.

It is true that many places have "Temple" in their name due to their historical association with the orginal KTs. However, not quite as you want to make it seem, they were the site of Templar farms, churches etc. However there are others that are called Temple but not related to the KTs, like Temple in Dorset which was the site of a Roman temple.

Some KT examples, off the top of my head:

Temple Meads in Bristol, Templecombe in Bristol, Temple Newsam in Yorkshire,
Temple Sowerby in Cumbria and Cressing Temple in Essex.

Mike

Please do not take this as a criticism either Mike, but here is my difficulty: Masonic Temple

http://uk.local.yahoo.com/England/West_Midlands/Sports_and_Social_Clubs/2016168154-e-12602191.html

http://www.thomsonlocal.com/Masonic-Temple/0269370002101947010/map/companyinfo.html

The lodges in Great Queen Street are called "Temple Number 1,2,3 etc."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_Temple

When and why did Masonic lodges become Masonic Temples?

[scotia]

There is still much confusion as to who and what the original Templars were...

Celts/Druids/Sufis, and for another clue I'll give yous 'G13' and 'time' ;)

Look to the start for the truth and you may find their intentions and why they became so wealthy, they never started out wealthy in "cash" terms, true wealth is knowledge...

Many places are named after the original Templars and they have left their mark in many places all over the world... The areas round Bristol would have been very important to them, as are many other areas in these isles...

[lightgiver]

I wonder if there are any real Knight templars left,

It appears they are very thin on the ground.

I mean take a look at G brown ,could you imagine him on a horse leading the troops into battle,he couldn't even get on a horse :eek::D

he just likes to lead from behind in the comfort of the House of Liars along with the rest of the liars.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50359

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6497/logoga.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/logoga.jpg/)

[grandsecretary]

No. None left.

[lightgiver]

Yes it appears that way.