Local 'Authority' Preference Form Try To Scam Me!

[dondaz]

My son will be starting secondary school later this year & his current school have been pressurising my missus to fill out this form.

'It's the Law'. they said and we could get into serious trouble if I don't hand it in as soon as possible.

'What Law?, said I, literally laughing when a secretary said it.

She is going to find out for me for monday.

I'm shitting myself.:D

This is a right scam they have going to try to decieve the good people into thinking they have a choice in what school their kids go to.

What I would like to know is the use of capitals when it comes to filling out these forms. Is it the same as when used in naming the 'person'?

Also, the four corner rule comes into these forms at the most convenient of times. Just a coincidence eh? Just a graphic design. Yeah right.:rolleyes: They are really trying the blag and then go on to try the Section 5(b) of the Perjury Act 1991. Do they think this make them look above board or something?

Let me know what you think guys because I am going to send them a notice asking them to prove this isn't a scam, upon their full commercial liability and under penality of perjury.

Clearly this is a contract, full of deciet, pretending to give us a choice.

This form is a joke, especially when you get to the customer satisfaction report; tick a box if you find the information and procedures clear:D:

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Feedback welcome!

[yozhik]

dondaz ... not sure what to say mate.

Looks like a lot of huff, puff and bluff.

I can see the word "offer" a lot, but no real evidence of any consideration :rolleyes:
So what exactly is this?
Seems you can "apply" for a number of schools, but no guarantee is forthcoming.
Looks like a "fishing" or "data mining" attempt to me; just an elaborate database building exercise.

Also, a lot of "must" and "should", but no consequence or statutes referred to.

[belial]

These forms are similar to TV Licence threat letters in a way. Copious use of 'should's', 'may's', 'must's'. All of the usual hypocritical officialdom.

When a child enters secondary school age, it has the option of either:

a) State education (what this form is about)
b) Home-schooled education
c) Private (payed) education

A child must by law do one of the above three. I've not managed to find out the statute law yet but this will put you in the right direction.

http://tmwintk.realhistories.org.uk/key-stage-4/does-my-child-have-to-go-to-school-3.html

The phrase in particular of note is:

If your child doesn't go to school and is not being home-schooled, an Educational Welfare Officer will contact you. Since it's the responsibility of parents to make sure that their children are being educated, they can be fined or even imprisoned if they do not cooperate with the local authorities

The form you are being asked to fill out is basically just giving you a choice of which secondary school your child can go to. In some cases, it can be a mini lottery, hence people even going to the length of moving house to a good catchment area.

Hope this helps a little bit?

[yozhik]

The phrase in particular of note is:


If your child doesn't go to school and is not being home-schooled, an Educational Welfare Officer will contact you. Since it's the responsibility of parents to make sure that their children are being educated, they can be fined or even imprisoned if they do not cooperate with the local authorities

The form you are being asked to fill out is basically just giving you a choice of which secondary school your child can go to.

Ah, yes.
The use of "parent", "child" and "children" again ... which of course brings us back to the ol' chestnut of legalese and the foundation stone of all evil; the registration at birth and the application for a birth certificate.
It always comes back to the root of the problem.

... and of course the remedy is always a fine.
Like THAT fixes everything :D :D

I mean ... think about it ... if not putting your offspring into a state run brainwashing camp REALLY was inherently wrong and against the interests of your offspring; how is paying a financial penalty going to correct it ??? :rolleyes:

It's all about control ... it's all about forced compliance and threats or intimidation ... it's all about money ... it's all about you maintaining (as defined in the statutes as your parental duties) their asset in a way they want, so it is optimally prepared and processed for future use.
:rolleyes:

[killmicrosoft]

Ah, yes.
The use of "parent", "child" and "children" again ... which of course brings us back to the ol' chestnut of legalese and the foundation stone of all evil; the registration at birth and the application for a birth certificate.
It always comes back to the root of the problem.

... and of course the remedy is always a fine.
Like THAT fixes everything :D :D

I mean ... think about it ... if not putting your offspring into a state run brainwashing camp REALLY was inherently wrong and against the interests of your offspring; how is paying a financial penalty going to correct it ??? :rolleyes:

It's all about control ... it's all about forced compliance and threats or intimidation ... it's all about money ... it's all about you maintaining (as defined in the statutes as your parental duties) their asset in a way they want, so it is optimally prepared and processed for future use.
:rolleyes:

parent111 peərənt ( parents) N-COUNT (usu pl)
Your parents are your mother and father. Children need their parents. When you become a parent the things you once cared about seem to have less value.
foster parent, one-parent family, single parent ADJ (ADJ n)
An organization's parent organization is the organization that created it and usually still controls it. Each unit including the parent company has its own, local management. child

[pleasuredome]

i'd chuck it in the bin, mate. i doubt you have a preference of which school would be better suited to brainwash your kids.

[cf24]

Why not 'box off' (four corner rule) the bits of the form you want to, like they have....

[dondaz]

http://tmwintk.realhistories.org.uk/...-school-3.html (http://tmwintk.realhistories.org.uk/...-school-3.html)

Theform you are being asked to fill out is basically just giving you a choice of which secondary school your child can go to. In some cases, it can be a mini lottery, hence people even going to the length of moving house to a good catchment area.

I actually think they have an agenda in who gets taught what, how and where. Espesially now common purpose has it's slimey tendrils in our kids schools.

Ah, yes.
The use of "parent", "child" and "children" again ... which of course brings us back to the ol' chestnut of legalese and the foundation stone of all evil; the registration at birth and the application for a birth certificate.
It always comes back to the root of the problem.

... and of course the remedy is always a fine.
Like THAT fixes everything :D :D

They are scammers of the most deceptive nature. All that legalese, contract law and admiralty thrown in to obsfucate in oder for us to 'go along'.

It's all about control ... it's all about forced compliance and threats or intimidation ... it's all about money ... it's all about you maintaining (as defined in the statutes as your parental duties) their asset in a way they want, so it is optimally prepared and processed for future use.

Yes, I agree. It's about them establishing 'rights' to control and brainwash kids and they get us to allow them to do this with deceptive 'forms'.

I wonder who designed this particular form?

parent111 peərənt ( parents) N-COUNT (usu pl)
Your parents are your mother and father. Children need their parents. When you become a parent the things you once cared about seem to have less value.
foster parent, one-parent family, single parent ADJ (ADJ n)
An organization's parent organization is the organization that created it and usually still controls it. Each unit including the parent company has its own, local management. child

Bloody 'ell. That's interesting mate. So parent could be originally just a commerce term, but have brought into our lives as another word scam. It's another 'person' scam!

This is like a small jigsaw coming together to show part of the bigger picture, if you know what I mean?

i'd chuck it in the bin, mate. i doubt you have a preference of which school would be better suited to brainwash your kids.

I know mate. Heads they win, tales I lose. But that's if I contract with them, and I'll only do that on my own terms.

Why not 'box off' (four corner rule) the bits of the form you want to, like they have....

Yes, the 'law of contract' say you can ammend it however you wish and it's up to them to accept or counter offer. Another bit of ammo to use.


Wow that looks like an offer to some benefits and look who gets the INstrument - The Church, that's why they are tax exempt, we give them Gifts that the Gov Manages.

Brilliant Paper Craftsmanship.

Titles in Caps signify the transmitting utilities check it out, The all caps title makes up the Contract and who gets the Cuts.

The School Board one part, the Actual School, second and the Church 3, with your son getting a benefit to becoming a PERSON.

Whatever, Nice try.

We have an option In Ontario to Home school the Children with board oversight.

In Alberta there is a very high success rate with children outperforming Canada because of the Homeschooling system there, the Parents get a 16% cut for homeschooling,through the Board as well.

Peace

http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4792 (http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4792)


Top info here eh!:D;)

Looks like I'm going to look into alternative modes of education. I'm putting a Notice together for the school 'authority', see how they cope with that.

Thanks for the responses guys. Anymore more info regarding this form get it posted, cheers!:)

[wise haven]

I would ignore the form altogether - as someone else suggested - .....it seems like a data mining exercise"

Just write to the school you want to send your son to and tell them he will be attending in the relevant term. (Send a copy to shire hall too)

They have a statutory duty to educate your son so cannot refuse unless it is a school outside of the catchment area.

Completely ignore all the form filling and send letters telling, not asking, them your son will be attending. That way any mistake you might have made on the form cannot be construed as perjury.

Also refer to yourself as Father/Mother of your son not parent.

If they quibble about you not submitting a form ask them why you should have to, where is the law (statute) that says you have to submit if you have already provided all the necessary information needed when you told them your son would be attending their school.

If they then exclude your son from any school they are then the ones breaking their own statutory obligation.....not you.

They have to comply with their own bullshit laws - otherwise their system becomes a mockery............this, of course, is our aim, namely; to let them hang themselves with their own chains.

However, if you do not want to send your son to the local school (if it is a sinkhole) you may have to fight the battle another time and submit options for schools outside your catchment area.

When filling out forms; Don't put the full date of birth - If they insist refuse on the grounds of (security of personal information)and offer to provide (visual) evidence in the form of a birth certificate which may be visually noticed on the day, or before, your son first attends school, but your condition is that the day and month must not be entered into their files or data system because of the risk of personal information being lost (which we all know they are good at LOL) or otherwise transferred to an unauthorised source. They do not need to know.

Don't provide racial, gender or religious information because that also is irrelevant. If they need that information they intend to use it and it is obvious they are being discriminatory - again, against their statutes.

You could have hours of fun and system testing with this - but, don't make it tough on your son, not that you would, by him missing school.

Your letters or notices to them of your intention to send your son to their school should only provide the necessary info to get your son into school - everything else is the Stasi/Nazis trying to find the ins and outs of a Gnat's arsehole.

Forms are control and, to a certain degree a form of contractual entrapment.

I never sign or orally make oaths or affirmations (religious objection on my part) I will make a solemn declaration though.

P.s. For everyone else; A bit of advice - Understand that any "Standard Form Contract" is negotiable, like any other form of contract. Cross out all the terms you disagree with and send it back for negotiation. They have blinded us to thinking that because they issue a standard form contract that we do not have the right to negotiate. A contract is a contract and both parties should agree all terms before acceptance by either party. :D

[bones]

hey daz ide just chuck em in the bin buddy! also as a matter course daz have they asked you for there birth cert yet? ours did but cos i new very little about the freeman stuff i agreed.

iver since found out that a birth cert is not evidence of id, so why do tehe school want to see it?

my opinion is it evidences stock to that school and proves the state owns the child.

thats it.

ill know better when my son whos now 16 months joins school they wont be getting one.