Rihanna and Jay Z

[moina]

What do you think celebrities like Rihanna and Jay Z really think Freemasonry is about?

[mountain]

What do you think celebrities like Rihanna and Jay Z really think Freemasonry is about?

If they are not Mkultra, most likely they have been fed a pack of lies to support the agenda...

[abrilliantone]

What do you think celebrities like Rihanna and Jay Z really think Freemasonry is about?


With Rihanna I'd suspect alittle to nothing, she's just a mind controlled slave like most of those slutty whores in T.V. and Music.

Jay-Z I'd say is a full fledge member of a fraternity, either knowing what the agenda is, or is being used as a pawn also.

[seaweed]

With Rihanna I'd suspect alittle to nothing, she's just a mind controlled slave like most of those slutty whores in T.V. and Music.

Jay-Z I'd say is a full fledge member of a fraternity, either knowing what the agenda is, or is being used as a pawn also.

I agree on both points.

That Jay-Z's label is called 'Roc-A-Fella' (albeit different spelling) is a sign that he has approval, backing, etc., from 'on high'. I heard that all spelling variants of 'Rockefeller' are copyright to the Rockefellers.

My feeling is that although he may also be being used as a pawn, Jay-Z is very high-ranking, as in all the pictures I've seen of him giving the Masonic handshake, his hand is in the superior position.

I also feel the fact that he flaunts it is a double bluff. It would be easy to say 'Oh, he wants us to think he's important, ignore him.' But I think he is very important to The Powers That Be.

Check out this picture with Old Chuck Windsor. Charles has very defensive body language, while Jay-Z looks open and confident. Also, Jay-Z is demonstrating a very wide, unnatural smile, as if to reassure Charles.

If I didn't know who they were, I'd think that Jay-Z was the prince and Charles had been presented to him.


http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/news/040517/jayz.jpg

Actually, I'm wondering whether Jay-Z is the one with the real royal blood: Charlie boy's looking worried...

[hordeari]

yap, agree with posters above, watch lenon honor vids on youtube, he was going into deep philosophical anal-Isis about the umbrELa music video :) ... crAzy but interesting

[seaweed]

yap, agree with posters above, watch lenon honor vids on youtube, he was going into deep philosophical anal-Isis about the umbrELa music video :) ... crAzy but interesting

Yes, Brilliant video from Lenon. Both the song and the video of 'Umbrella' had always made me feel uneasy, now thanks to Lenon, I know why.

More on Jay-Z: one of his nicknames is Hova. J-Hova, see?

The Wikipedia entry for his song 'Hovi Baby' include this lyric:

"Ain't no livin person can test him
Only two restin' in heaven
Can be mentioned in the same breath as him"

The Wiki article says this is him boasting about about his rapping skills and suggesting that only 2Pac and The Notorious B.I.G. can be considered as good as he is.

However, in the light of Lenon's interpretation of Umbrella, and Jay-Z's calling himself J-Hova, consider this:

Who do the Illuminati consider their true god? And who else might be resting in heaven?

Jay-Z tells us he is Jehovah, yet often the law of opposites applies to Illuminati symbolism.

Jay is saying that he is God, but that god could be either Jehovah or Lucifer.

The Illuminati like to hide things in plain sight - if they tell us what they are going to do and we accept it, they escape Karma.

Jay-Z plainly states things that at face value seem like boasts, stories, pretences, so we dismiss him as just advocating a diamond studded Gangsta lifestyle for entertainment purposes.

I think he speaks the truth. Either he is, or speaks for someone very important to the Illuminati. After all, he already told us that they want his mind, soul and body.

He carries something important. Either he is bloodline, or he is a walk-in, possessed, to paraphrase Lenon.

But is his precious cargo Christ or Antichrist?

[abrilliantone]

...He carries something important. Either he is bloodline, or he is a walk-in, possessed, to paraphrase Lenon.

But is his precious cargo Christ or Antichrist?


Yes, exactly what I was thinking also.

This guy comes from "the ghetto" to becoming worth "a couple of hundreds of millions", is quite a feat. Now something may or may not be amiss, but still that's quite a feat.

I say yeah, he's with them. Just look at him, you can see it in him. And with that, I say f*ck him with the rest...:eek:


http://realestatemiami.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/jay-z-and-bill-gates.jpg


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[michael christopher]

Jay-Z is a poser. Just my opinion.

[persian_x]

Prodigy (Mobb deep), one of the few enlightened rappers out there, knows it. Jay-Z is siding with Illuminati

this is what he had to say:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=72816.0

[mountain]

Prodigy (Mobb deep), one of the few enlightened rappers out there, knows it. Jay-Z is siding with Illuminati

this is what he had to say:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=72816.0

2pac A.K.A. Makaveli knew it, too. He and Jay Z were having a back and forth rap battle just before 2pac's 'murder'.

Could be why 2pac's last album has 'killuminati' (as in kill the illuminati) as part of the title.

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[hordeari]

Prodigy (Mobb deep), one of the few enlightened rappers out there...

paris also is one of the very few enlightened rappers out there.. he was on AJ show a month ago smth like that..

[seaweed]

Yes, exactly what I was thinking also.

This guy comes from "the ghetto" to becoming worth "a couple of hundreds of millions", is quite a feat. Now something may or may not be amiss, but still that's quite a feat.

I say yeah, he's with them. Just look at him, you can see it in him. And with that, I say f*ck him with the rest...:eek:


http://realestatemiami.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/jay-z-and-bill-gates.jpg


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True.

Look at Bill Gates's expression and demeanour. Jay-Z is more 'important' than him also.

I don't know a huge amount about Jay-Z, but I certainly intend to start researching.

I saw the TV broadcast of him playing at Glastonbury, and although in the bit I saw he came across as not that skilled a performer - his timing wasn't great and he lacked charisma - the sway he held over the crowd was quite something.

You're right:

No one goes from such rags to total riches without Illuminati approval.

I wouldn't say he's the greatest rapper in the world, in the same way that J K Rowling isn't the best writer, nor Madonna anything more than a pretty average singer.

These people are successful for reasons other than talent. In fact, having talent seems to sign your death warrant: 2Pac, Kurt Cobain, Jeff Buckley, the list is endless.

Maybe the possessing entities need an empty space to live in, and someone with a huge talent would not be as easy to control, so they pick someone with just enough ability to put the points across?

[abrilliantone]

2pac A.K.A. Makaveli knew it, too. He and Jay Z were having a back and forth rap battle just before 2pac's 'murder'.

Could be why 2pac's last album has 'killuminati' (as in kill the illuminati) as part of the title.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9144/2pacwz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


There is much of speculation about why 2Pac named his album by that tittle.

I've heard the interview where he states that guys in jail were telling him about the illuminati and what not. He states that the reason why he named it that, was meant to say fuck the illuminati, get your money.

The interviewer belived that 2Pac didn't belive in a illuminati and that he named his album by that name to say "kill that mess*". (*slang for forget about it.)

But some of us know 2Pac was no fool and he knew what he was doing. His parents were "Black Panthers" so it's in his soul to fight for the unjust and to make those unjustices known.

He was a popular rapper, haven just recently just set a record of being the first rapper to sell 4 million records. He was a threat to them, so they stopped him before he could do any real damage.

I also heard a rumor that he was told numerious times to change the title of his last album. But as we saw he didn't listen.




To, Tupac Amaru Shakur The Worlds Greatest Rapper. Killuminati And F*ck Them All.


Your death shall not be in vain, We Shall Win.



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...They say Moses split the Red Sea
I split the blunt and rolled the fat one, I'm deadly -- Babylon beware

Comin from the Pharoahe's kids, retaliation
Makin legends off the shit we did, still bullshittin

Niggaz in Jerusalem, waitin for signs
God promised, she's just takin her time, haha

Living by the Nile while the water flows
I'm contemplating plots wondering which door to go...

...The preacher want me buried why? Cause I know he a liar Have you ever seen a crackhead, that's eternal fire

Why you got these kids minds, thinkin that they evil while the preacher bein richer you say honor God's people

Should we cry, when the Pope die, my request
We should cry if they cried when we buried Malcolm X

Mama tell me am I wrong, is God just another cop waitin to beat my ass if I don't go pop?

Memories of a past time, givin up cash to the leaders, knowin damn well, it ain't gonna feed us

In my brain how can you explain, time in D.C. It's hard enough to live now, in these times of
greed

They say Jesus is a kind man, well he should understand
times in this crime man...


From 2Pac A.K.A. Makaveli The Don's song "Blasphemy"

[noobcybot]

Some interesting points are discussed here...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46814&highlight=rhianna

I think its fair to say that Hip-hop is just yet another battle ground on the war on reality.

[moina]

I think Jay Z is against god proven in his song Lucifer and sees these secret societies as a way of succeeding in this life and Rihanna has adopted his beliefs. All the people that have sold out to this evil force will pay big time. God bless Alex Jones and David Icke for their hard work,courage and spirit.:)

[tootrue]

If they are not Mkultra, most likely they have been fed a pack of lies to support the agenda...

There's some truth here
I'm not too sure what MKUltra does (obviously it's to do with mind control on a massive scale), but I think it may involve 'other-worldly' spirits - too!

Hope I'm wrong - it would make it more complicated, in a way...

But rihanna's video suggests mind control - YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[tootrue]

Jay-Z is a poser. Just my opinion.

Jay Z has no rap tallent!
You name another rapper, and the chances are he/she is more tallented than Jay Z

He's got to be into somethin 'important', to receive all that publicity

[michael christopher]

So why do people think Rihanna would be Masonic/Luciferean as opposed to simply being someone being used by Jay-Z to make money?

[bowtiedaddy]

True.

Look at Bill Gates's expression and demeanour. Jay-Z is more 'important' than him also.

I don't know a huge amount about Jay-Z, but I certainly intend to start researching.

I saw the TV broadcast of him playing at Glastonbury, and although in the bit I saw he came across as not that skilled a performer - his timing wasn't great and he lacked charisma - the sway he held over the crowd was quite something.

You're right:

No one goes from such rags to total riches without Illuminati approval.

I wouldn't say he's the greatest rapper in the world, in the same way that J K Rowling isn't the best writer, nor Madonna anything more than a pretty average singer.

These people are successful for reasons other than talent. In fact, having talent seems to sign your death warrant: 2Pac, Kurt Cobain, Jeff Buckley, the list is endless.

Maybe the possessing entities need an empty space to live in, and someone with a huge talent would not be as easy to control, so they pick someone with just enough ability to put the points across?

One note on Cobain. His wife hired punk rock singer Alen Wrench for $10,000 to kill Kurt because he was going to divorce her, take their kid, and deny her the rights to his portion of Nirvana LLP. I do believe the rec. company did help cover it up, but Courtney had the "hit" done, not the illuminati.

[metacomet]

In fact, having talent seems to sign your death warrant: 2Pac, Kurt Cobain, Jeff Buckley, the list is endless.

Maybe the possessing entities need an empty space to live in, and someone with a huge talent would not be as easy to control, so they pick someone with just enough ability to put the points across?

This is exactly what spooks me about trying to 'make it' in the music industry. If you go in expecting to maintain your personality etc. they will spit you out in one form or another. If you are complacent or agree to sell your soul they will gleefully snatch it up - and most of the big musicians are openly sold out. Literally sold out. Few people are down to admit this, especially fans of musicians and certain bands.

[demonlover]

This is exactly what spooks me about trying to 'make it' in the music industry. If you go in expecting to maintain your personality etc. they will spit you out in one form or another. If you are complacent or agree to sell your soul they will gleefully snatch it up - and most of the big musicians are openly sold out. Literally sold out. Few people are down to admit this, especially fans of musicians and certain bands.Your post scare the shit outta me and for a good reason. I'm not a musician but an actress and unfortunately I've been told the same thing by another actor which is to sellout. The thing is I don't wanna be "underground" forever, I DO need to eat. You know what I'm saying? I've been to Hollywood on Sunset Blvd.... very different world from what I'm used to seeing.;)