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gtycoon
12-01-2009, 04:09 AM
In the scene where she is imprisoned by V, what does the dummy guard mean?

Does it mean we are don't have to fear and we can rise up? Or does it mean that the USA is not really protected right now? What is your interpretation of that scene?

infin8_possibility
12-01-2009, 04:59 AM
In the scene where she is imprisoned by V, what does the dummy guard mean?

Does it mean we are don't have to fear and we can rise up? Or does it mean that the USA is not really protected right now? What is your interpretation of that scene?

Well the dummy at the end of the corridor was put there by V so Evey would believe in her weakend state that even if she escaped her cell, she would be powerless to break free of the prison because it was guarded by authority.

My interopretation of that scene would be that we are controlled (imprisoned) and manipulated to BELIEVE we a powerless and are DUMBED-DOWN to a state of apathetic docility. Brainwashed into thinking the powers that be are there for our own benefit and protection (War on Terror/Governance by fear > trauma-based mind-control.) And any attempt to revolt from this would fail. This of course is not the case...

But beware of Evey's isolation scene, it glamourizes trauma based mind-control; which is exactly what it is - like its some positive experience. And also the character V is a suspicious Hollywood creation to put into the populus' minds that it's plausible for a freedom fighting hero to come along and save mankind from the oppression it is enslaved in. Basically talking directly to your sub-conscious telling it "Don't worry about the state of the world, go back to sleep, don't rebel - you will all be saved eventually by a anti-government messiah."

dreamweaver
12-01-2009, 05:18 AM
But beware of Evey's isolation scene, it glamourizes trauma based mind-control; which is exactly what it is - like its some positive experience. And also the character V is a suspicious Hollywood creation to put into the populus' minds that it's plausible for a freedom fighting hero to come along and save mankind from the oppression it is enslaved in. Basically talking directly to your sub-conscious telling it "Don't worry about the state of the world, go back to sleep, don't rebel - you will all be saved eventually by a anti-government messiah."
Those are definite flaws but I still like the ending. I'd love it if the people decided en masse to converge on Parliament wearing Guy Fawkes masks on 5 November, just to make the MPs shit themselves. I know it will take more than that to get rid of them, but it's high time they were reminded that they need to fear us and not vice versa. ;)

gtycoon
12-01-2009, 02:04 PM
Well the dummy at the end of the corridor was put there by V so Evey would believe in her weakend state that even if she escaped her cell, she would be powerless to break free of the prison because it was guarded by authority.

My interopretation of that scene would be that we are controlled (imprisoned) and manipulated to BELIEVE we a powerless and are DUMBED-DOWN to a state of apathetic docility. Brainwashed into thinking the powers that be are there for our own benefit and protection (War on Terror/Governance by fear > trauma-based mind-control.) And any attempt to revolt from this would fail. This of course is not the case...

But beware of Evey's isolation scene, it glamourizes trauma based mind-control; which is exactly what it is - like its some positive experience. And also the character V is a suspicious Hollywood creation to put into the populus' minds that it's plausible for a freedom fighting hero to come along and save mankind from the oppression it is enslaved in. Basically talking directly to your sub-conscious telling it "Don't worry about the state of the world, go back to sleep, don't rebel - you will all be saved eventually by a anti-government messiah."

ahhh That last paragraph helped me. Thanks!

miranda
13-01-2009, 02:33 AM
Well put, infin 8 possibility.

I'd say the dummy was put there, maybe, as a symbol that the control of the powers that be really are non-existent/unreal/a hoodwinking sham, compared to what Icke called consciousness working at its full capacity (words to that effect, anyway ...): that if we only get up the courage/knowledge to step out of the box/prison, there'll be nothing really stopping us ...

Loved the scene at the end where they all take off their masks, revealing themselves - no masked hero, no pretending; just themselves, free, not hiding behind masks ...

After Icke's highlighting the film, though, I was a bit disappointed in it. It seemed a bit generic big brother - and why outlaw homosexuality??

infin8_possibility
13-01-2009, 02:39 AM
Well put, infin 8 possibility.

I'd say the dummy was put there, maybe, as a symbol that the control of the powers that be really are non-existent/unreal/a hoodwinking sham.

Yeah, the only power they have over us is the power we relinquish.