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pleasuredome
09-01-2009, 04:40 PM
i was wondering if, for example, i sent a notice to a CC company asking for proof of contract etc, and i claimed that they had 10 days in which to respond, do they have to honour that 10 days if a statute says that they have 28 days to reply if requested for proof of contract? could they discharge the 10 days by claiming right to 28 days?

vostran
09-01-2009, 04:59 PM
What they really have, unless you wish to create conraversy, is a reasonable time to respond. If they don't respond in 10 days and never present reason then you win. But if they were to say respond in 10 days requesting 28 then they're making you an offer and you should probably accept that with a condition of payment for each additional day they delsy were there is no change to the eventual outcome. If they were to demand 28 then they're dishounouring the process which is there to avoid contraversy and creating some of thier own, which requires a more forcful approsch but still, it's progress.

Somtimes it's best to accept reasonable offers, somtimes it best to make them prove reason or pay for the benifit.

dondaz
09-01-2009, 11:18 PM
What if someone makes a claim against me and do not mention a time period in which to reply?

This has happend to me and someone is claiming rights of my film that I worked hard to get:

http://thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4593

pleasuredome
10-01-2009, 12:17 AM
What if someone makes a claim against me and do not mention a time period in which to reply?

This has happend to me and someone is claiming rights of my film that I worked hard to get:

http://thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4593

deary me, i feel for you on that daz. hope u get it sorted mate. you must of spent some hours getting the vid right aswell. you could probably put the video out into the public and respond in 10 years time lol. just goes to show you how good some of these mighty 'freemen' are if they cant get a NoU&CoR right lol. seems to me on that forum, that theres an in-crowd and if a newbie like myself wants some info its tough shit.

i believe that the honest ones of us who are just starting out are going to overtake some of those who feel they dont have to respond to emails like 21stcen to help out those who of us who are new.

makes me wonder; if some of them are worried about editing what they've said, then their info cant be that good and they dont have much confidence in themselves or what they are doing.

vanity or what? lol

boots
10-01-2009, 09:02 AM
What if someone makes a claim against me and do not mention a time period in which to reply?

This has happend to me and someone is claiming rights of my film that I worked hard to get:

http://thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4593

Bastards:mad:

Did they give notice at ALL. It is their responsibility to formally advise of a notice. They must give a time frame to reply, otherwise it is ambiguous.

It could be 7 days or 28 days But it must be stated. In writing.

I'll stand up for you. If it possible.

.

bones
10-01-2009, 09:42 AM
o for fuk sake i was there daz bloody copywrite my arse nothig was said about you filming.

are we supposed to be freeman all this bickering over a load of bollocks,

what a great start to the freeman concept...

pleasuredome
10-01-2009, 11:09 AM
daz, was this a public event where the public were free to attend? if it was, and there were no objections to you filming, i dont see how they can claim rights to your film.

dondaz
10-01-2009, 10:48 PM
Yes mate, it was a free event for the public. They made their money back through donations. I was invited to film & I was on my feet all day and I interviewed a few people too! There was no contract, verbal or otherwise. No-one objected on the day.

Then over two weeks later one of the organisers tried to lay a claim of right against me.

There is much more to it than meets the eye. Check it out folks, this may even turn out to be the first ever freeman court case settled by honourable freemen: http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4593

You may have to sign up to view the thread folks. This is Rob Menards forum, but the negitive vibes on this thread is no reflection on Rob himself. Definately not!

freedom_thoughts
12-01-2009, 08:28 PM
Yes mate, it was a free event for the public. They made their money back through donations. I was invited to film & I was on my feet all day and I interviewed a few people too! There was no contract, verbal or otherwise. No-one objected on the day.

Then over two weeks later one of the organisers tried to lay a claim of right against me.

There is much more to it than meets the eye. Check it out folks, this may even turn out to be the first ever freeman court case settled by honourable freemen: http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4593

You may have to sign up to view the thread folks. This is Rob Menards forum, but the negitive vibes on this thread is no reflection on Rob himself. Definately not!

Hi D,

I offer you my complete respect for standing up for yourself on that forum mate ... I've just spent the best part of an hour reading it all and you certainly got your point across, clearly and concisely, and didn't back down ... well done!

Hopefully it'll all be sorted out soon!

scotfree
12-01-2009, 10:23 PM
Darren, I am over at tupc forum, have sent my 2 affidavits to HMQ,
and published my NOUCOR,
and feel that the Commercial Redemption stuff I have read [and elsewhere] is been shown to be "UNlawful" and many of the Commercial Redemption gang in the USofA have been sent to jail.

As a photographer I understand [:>} Copyright,
but is it your view that they just dont want the [scam] of Commercial Redemption to get out?

pleasuredome
13-01-2009, 10:44 AM
Darren, I am over at tupc forum, have sent my 2 affidavits to HMQ,
and published my NOUCOR,
and feel that the Commercial Redemption stuff I have read [and elsewhere] is been shown to be "UNlawful" and many of the Commercial Redemption gang in the USofA have been sent to jail.

As a photographer I understand [:>} Copyright,
but is it your view that they just dont want the [scam] of Commercial Redemption to get out?

what specifically about 'commercial redemption' has been shown to be unlawful? you should do a thread on it if you believe people might get harmed by using that process

friendsinthesky
13-01-2009, 01:31 PM
If it's done in public, then I don't know how anyone other than the "person" with the camera can lay claim.

tom bombadil
13-01-2009, 10:05 PM
I dont know if its been said but I remember that in places like a church (or other privately owned buiding) the care taker (pastor) can ban any video or recordings down to the fact that it is 'his' right as an 'owner' to do so.

Isnt that the same with other privately run but publicly open venues?

For example; a church wedding can be attended by anyone. But cant be recorded by anyone. It is something private between the group and the pastor. If someone wished or was seen to be 'filming' or taking notes (say) then this guy could be asked to stop. Another place or venue could be the same in that it realy is up to those in charge to lay down some rules and or maintain them.

dondaz
13-01-2009, 10:16 PM
Darren, I am over at tupc forum, have sent my 2 affidavits to HMQ,and published my NOUCOR, and feel that the Commercial Redemption stuff I have read [and elsewhere] is been shown to be "UNlawful" and many of the Commercial Redemption gang in the USofA have been sent to jail.QUOTE]

I have actually never read about anyone who has actually went to prison, I have heard rumours, but never an actual case that has existed. You have any links to an actual case, it would be interesting to read what they did?

[QUOTE]As a photographer I understand [:>} Copyright,
but is it your view that they just dont want the [scam] of Commercial Redemption to get out?

I don't know that it is a scam and can not say for definate on this. This is the idea of the conference, to explore these ideas and concepts.

It has been said that people can not drive without a licence. Some people across the world have tried it and ended up in court and lost the case. Others have driven/traveled without a licence and ended up in court and won their case, and still drive without a licence.

Clearly some people had information that others did not.

Same thing with commercial redemption I recon.