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lostinstrangeworld
02-01-2009, 06:36 PM
http://miraclemineral.org/breakthrough.php
The answer to AIDS, hepatitis A,B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, most cancer and many more of mankind's worse diseases has been found. Many diseases are now easily controlled. More that 75,000 disease victims have been included in the field tests in Africa. Scientific clinical trials have been conducted in a prison in the country of Malawi, East Africa.
Separate tests conducted by the Malawi government produced identical 99% cure results. Over 60% of the AIDS victims that were treated in Uganda were well in 3 days, with 98% well within one month. More than 90% of the malaria victims were well in 4 to 8 hours. Dozens of other diseases were successfully treated and can be controlled with this new mineral supplement. It also works with colds, flu, pneumonia, sore throats, warts, mouth sores, and even abscessed teeth (it's the only thing that controls and cures abscessed teeth).
The inventor believes that this information is too important to the world that any one person or any group should have control. The free e-book download on this site gives complete details of this discovery. Please help make sure that it gets to the world free. There are many medical facts that have been suppressed and this invention must not be added to that list. The name of the e-book is The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century. This book tells the story of the discovery, and how to make and use it. This book can save your life. Give it a try.
eyepod
02-01-2009, 06:47 PM
http://miraclemineral.org/breakthrough.php
Is this a piss take or something? Chlorine Dioxide is what they put in your water supply to disinfect it / bleach it. What next's Domestos as a cancer cure too?
lostinstrangeworld
04-01-2009, 11:06 PM
"Chlorine dioxide is as different to chlorine as table salt is to chlorine"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=948284113233997302
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=948284113233997302
cafetimes1991
04-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Woo! MMS!
lostinstrangeworld
04-01-2009, 11:43 PM
Guys, this is incredibly important info. If it is true or false, we NEED to find out. Not only would it save billions of human lives and stop so much pain, it could help animal lives too- the billions of animals that are tortured in laboratories in the name of economics.
When you think of the horrors which could be prevented if the powers that be weren't allowed to suppress information.....it sure is overwhelming.
grachtengordel
05-01-2009, 12:05 AM
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw&feature=channel_page
deafbred
05-01-2009, 01:37 AM
jesus is the only way
haukipesukone
05-01-2009, 02:25 AM
We could solve most this world's problems. We just need the majority to realize it, and stop listening to the PTB. The question is how to get people away from their TV sets and look at the "real" world?
thelucifer
05-01-2009, 04:48 AM
MMS is basically just like H2O2, Hydrogen Peroxide.
Its an oxidizer thus kills anaerobic microbes and stops/reverses anaerobic processes.
Both have two atoms of oxygen.
Lisw have you watched any of the youtube MMS stuff ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8
edit - oops, I see you post the google link.
lostinstrangeworld
05-01-2009, 02:44 PM
We need to find out if his claims are true or false. I'm going to take a proper look at his ebook and find out how to make this stuff or where to order it from.
If these claims aren't true then it will be yet another bummer, but this man could probably go to prison for showing his face on camera and making false claims....why would he do this if he isn't sincere about it all?
thelucifer
05-01-2009, 02:58 PM
We need to find out if his claims are true or false. I'm going to take a proper look at his ebook and find out how to make this stuff or where to order it from.
If these claims aren't true then it will be yet another bummer, but this man could probably go to prison for showing his face on camera and making false claims....why would he do this if he isn't sincere about it all?
His claims are true.
All you need to know for proof is the two atoms of Oxygen.
Peroxide is Dioxide/O2.
Instead of Hydrogen (H2) with O2 (Peroxide) MMS uses Clorine (Cl) with O2 (Peroxide).
H2O2
ClO2
lostinstrangeworld
05-01-2009, 03:21 PM
We need to get testing it then!
gremlin
11-01-2009, 04:38 PM
yet they can create a cancer free baby and not cure aids:rolleyes:
tjohn
11-01-2009, 06:43 PM
http://miraclemineral.org/breakthrough.phpI did some research into this a while ago and it sounded very plausible to me. I would describe it as a bit like chemotherapy but one big difference is that it targets abnormal cells (cancer) as well as pathogens, viruses, bacteria and so on. As I remember, chlorine is released on the targets because they have a different PH value... however whichway it works, if it works, it works and it does appear to do so.
It think there must be many substances that can cure or prevent all sorts of ailments but Big Pharma would rather spend lots of money to make their medicines in order to make huge profits.
lostinstrangeworld
12-01-2009, 09:54 PM
I would like to hear from somebody who has tried MMS.
Anybody out there? :)
nirvana
15-01-2009, 02:17 AM
Has anyone tried this yet.
Peace:)
eyepod
15-01-2009, 02:54 AM
Has anyone tried this yet.
Peace:)
Have you ever drank tap water? If yes - you've tried it ;)
Since the beginning of the twentieth century, when it was first used at a spa in Ostend, Belgium,
chlorine dioxide has been known as a powerful disinfectant of water. During the 1950s, it was
introduced more generally as a drinking water disinfectant since it provided less organoleptic
hindering than chlorine. Approximately 700 to 900 public water systems use chlorine dioxide to
treat potable water (Hoehn, 1992).
eyepod
15-01-2009, 03:04 AM
http://www.hfs.scot.nhs.uk/publications/tn2-98.pdf
Chlorine dioxide, chlorate and chlorite ions are toxic. The WHO
recommended guideline for chlorite in drinking water is 0.2 mg/l. In
order to minimise the risk from ingestion of chlorine dioxide as well as
the precursors and by-products involved in the use of chlorine dioxide
as a disinfection agent for drinking water, the Secretary of State’s legal
requirement is that the combined concentration of chlorine dioxide,
chlorite and chlorate should not exceed 0.5 ppm chlorine dioxide
equivalent (see section 2.3). The measurement of the combined
concentration chlorine dioxide, chlorite and chlorate is described in this
report as “total oxidants”.....
Chlorine dioxide is an oxidising biocide capable of reacting with a wide
range of organic substances including many of the constituents of
bacterial cells. The low levels of chlorine dioxide used in drinking
water inactivate bacteria due to oxidation disrupting a number of
different cell processes.
Several studies show that chlorine dioxide reacts readily with amino
acids [Ref 8] and RNA [Ref 9]. Whether chlorine dioxide attacks the
peripheral structure of the cell or the acids within is still not clear but it
is suggested that oxidation reactions at both of these sites contribute to
cell inactivation.
Other studies have looked at the effect of chlorine dioxide on the
physiological function of cells. These have shown that inactivation is
due to disruption of protein production [Ref 10 ] whilst other studies
[Ref 11 &12] have shown that the chlorine dioxide weakens the
membrane of the cell and inhibits respiration. In general it has been
shown that levels of chlorine dioxide at 0.5 ppm produce an effective
disinfection.
patrish
15-01-2009, 07:32 AM
http://http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781
I hope the above link works, there are 21 pages on this thread and it follows the stories of people trying the MMS
If it does not work try googling project avalon, go into the forum and look for the section health/Alternative medicine
Patrish xx
nirvana
15-01-2009, 12:03 PM
Is mms really just tap water?
Peace:)
tjohn
16-01-2009, 04:30 AM
Is mms really just tap water?
Peace:)No but tap water is usually slightly chlorinated to kill germs.
tjohn
16-01-2009, 04:54 AM
http://http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781
I hope the above link works, there are 21 pages on this thread and it follows the stories of people trying the MMS
If it does not work try googling project avalon, go into the forum and look for the section health/Alternative medicine
Patrish xxThe link doesn't work because it has two http://'s (http://%27s). Either that, or I have drunk far too much alcohol!
Here's the link that does work.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781
patrish
16-01-2009, 06:30 AM
Hi tjohn,
Thanks for sorting out the link.
Anyone who reads it will see that MMS is more than tap water
Patrish x
lostinstrangeworld
16-01-2009, 04:34 PM
When I've got some cash I'm going to get the book and try some MMS out for myself.
patrish
16-01-2009, 07:53 PM
http://www.miraclemineral.org/
If you click on the link and scroll down the first book on MMS is free.
Patrish xx
I hope I got the link right this time
happyman
17-01-2009, 05:39 PM
I tried it, it works great if you are sick. I recommand you to download the first book, it is free.
jolinemaria
17-01-2009, 06:05 PM
I have used it to kill off some intestal parasites.
Works great. They are gone.
And I feel much better.
There are some internetforums on mms.
You can check peoples experiences there.
Interview with Jim Humble the discoverer of MMS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8&eurl=http://www.vrijeenergiemachine.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=79
nirvana
18-01-2009, 01:47 PM
May get some in a few weeks. If it don't work i've only lost £40 .If it does work .I win my health back lol.
So maybe a good gamble to take.
Peace:)
alternative_answer
18-01-2009, 09:05 PM
I've purchased some today from UK website, I will keep coming back here to update on my experience of using this product. I will give an almost daily update if possible. Wish me luck. :)
minestrone321
19-01-2009, 12:42 AM
Hi. I also got very curious on mms after hearing about it from friends, and specially after seeing the Jim humble interview, so I bought a bottle not so long ago.
I have only been using it for 6 days now. I'm taking it slow so using 5 drops of mms at this point, mixing it with 20-25 drops of lemon.
What I have noticed from day 1 to now is that I have to use the bathroom more than usual, just to day I have had the need maybe 7-8 times. Cant remember exactly, but much more than usual. I don't have an upset stomach or anything so that is good so far. I'm thinking maybe it's a sign of detoxification? i haven't done a detox before so cant really tell.
I also have noticed that my cough is better. I had the flu for about 20 days ago and haven't been able to shake the cough off since. But it seems to be clearing in my chest (more or less), I don't have rounds of coughing up slimeballs , just some minor irritation now and then.
So far the mms have made a positive impression on me, except maybe the taste. -and that I feel somewhat like a guinea pig trying this out. (you know, hope it not turns out to be terribly unhealthy in 6 months)
I would definitely love to hear more of other peoples experiences on this..
Have a beautiful night everyone :-)
time2wakeup
19-01-2009, 02:12 AM
I got some MMS also after hearing the Jim Humble story. I was also impressed with the you tube clips of the guy covering from cancer through MMS and I think some other herbal products. The price of it is amazing, no one should be without it. I used it to clear a parasite - I think in my colon. I do not have the disciline to take it every day - the taste is not the best. I have a sleeping problem so I want to start taking it again. I never took it with any juice - they do say you can take some organic juice but I never knew what to get as I was confussed about what workered or not becuase it cant be vitamin c. What does anyone take it with? I would ideally like something available in the uk and cheap.
minestrone321
19-01-2009, 12:52 PM
Hi Time2wakeup. I have not been using anything with mms. Just 5 drops mms, 25 drops of lemon or lime to activate it, and after 3 minutes i just drink it with water. Works just fine, but of course the taste gets worse for every drop. I have read on the Avalon forum that pineapple juice should be a very nice blender. Takes away the taste of mms, and doesn't contain too much of vitamin C. I'm getting some very soon.
About the vitamin C I think it's ok to take a little, like pineapple and apple juice contains some C vit, but not as much as f.ex orange juice. So of what I have read I think it's ok to use those juices that have just a little, but not the ones that have ADDED vitamin C, or orange juice..
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=37
As you see, it has a lot of it. On the other hand, if you have taken too much mms, and starting to feel nausea, I think vitamin C will make it stop. So I keep an orange in my fridge at all times, just in case.
I never took it with any juice - they do say you can take some organic juice but I never knew what to get as I was confussed about what workered or not becuase it cant be vitamin c. What does anyone take it with?
jolinemaria
19-01-2009, 04:54 PM
I have been using it for over 2 month in doses varying from 6 drops up till 15 drops 2 a day. No harm has come to me. Build up slowly though and feel inside what your body wants. It might be a bit tough for people with sensitive stomachs. I activate it with fresh lemon. Then I add 100 ml of water and 100ml of a organic apple juice. and I take it one hour after a meal. Works best for my stomach.
The most difficult in my process was/is that it also releases emotional residues. And I had a pretty rough past. This is often thougher on me than the physical cleansing. Since this is not mentioned anywhere I do it here. If there are traumatic experiences in your past, take care to go slow. They surface while being relieved, and you do have to cope with that.
For the rest I have not met with any reason for caution apart from the normal sensible things like 'listen to your body'.
Good luck to you all!
nirvana
19-01-2009, 11:44 PM
Would mms be of any value for a mate who has dystonia?
Peace:)
onourwayto2012
20-01-2009, 12:18 AM
Just now ordered some. Thanks everyone for the info. I spend alot more than this on sh*t that's not good for me so I am more than willing to give it a go. Sounds like pretty amazing stuff.....keep you posted.
minestrone321
20-01-2009, 02:51 PM
Would mms be of any value for a mate who has dystonia?
Peace
Hi Nirvana. Maybe this site can give you an answer.
http://mmsadvisor.com/
nirvana
20-01-2009, 03:51 PM
Hi Nirvana. Maybe this site can give you an answer.
http://mmsadvisor.com/
Thanks:)
pure_energy
20-01-2009, 10:49 PM
I bought one bottle yesterday and I cant wait to have some but there are still some details that bothers me for example:
- Why some people get very sick for days on end? I suppose is "cleaning" from the inside out but then again I want to use to heal not to get on this game of "if you got sick reduce one drop and then try to increase again later".
- I am TOTALLY AGAINST the big pharma ( I want to be self sufficient on energy, food and medicine wise and that is why I am betting on MMS ) but imagine a GP telling you that amoxicillin is going to make you very sick and you should start on 200mg and then increase/decrease accordantly with your sickness.
I really want to feel that if I am going to dive head first on this MMS that is actually is going to make me feel better... how can I tell that is working if all that makes me feel for the first week is vomiting, diarrhea, fatigue etc.
Sorry for this and I am going for it anyway but I just wanted to let my doubts here first and see what you guys have to say.
Cheers
Has anyone tried this yet.
Peace:)
Hi yes i used it for over 6 months , mixed with a little apple juice .Its an acquired taste! I wasn't sick with it or had diarrhea .Cant say how well it worked as i still had conventional treatment some time later .Know a few people who where using it thru emails from the original supplier they had some side effects but nothing major . :D
lostinstrangeworld
21-01-2009, 03:02 PM
Hi yes i used it for over 6 months , mixed with a little apple juice .Its an acquired taste! I wasn't sick with it or had diarrhea .Cant say how well it worked as i still had conventional treatment some time later .Know a few people who where using it thru emails from the original supplier they had some side effects but nothing major . :D
What was it you tried? MMS?
alternative_answer
21-01-2009, 09:15 PM
22/1/9 Just taken 1st dose of mms, nothing to report yet, will keep posting my daily experiences of mms.
23/1/9 Took 2nd dose this am and took too much, I felt sick as a parrot and had to return to bed
What was it you tried? MMS?
yes used for a long time . cant say for sure what effect it had but it wasnt a negative one at least . :D
starcat
23-01-2009, 07:39 AM
In my experience MMS is mainly beneficial for those who are sick - which means your body is full of toxins and crap, which need to be eliminated.
MMS will help you do that.
I have had a couple of clients take MMS with good results, but you may experience nausea if you are quite toxic - as one of my clients did.
You need to build up slowly to the required dosage and make sure that you drink plenty of water to assist your body eliminate the toxins.
Jim Humble himself said the taste was hard to take, especially at higher doses!
Also remember that we are all different - what works well for one, may not for another.
I believe half the secret in a healthy life is get to know your body - what it likes and dislikes and learn to 'read' your body. Some people respond really well to herbs, or supplements, while others respond better to pure energy work.
Cellfood is another interesting supplement - and it is actually a supplement as it contains oxygen plus minerals and enzymes, whereas MMS is only a 'cleaning agent' - which is not to denigrate its value - it's great if you need to clean out your cells!
Hope that helps!
lostinstrangeworld
23-01-2009, 11:48 AM
We need to find out, somehow, if Jim Humble's claims are true- that MMS can cure cancer.
There is an ebook on Jim Humble's website that tells you how to take MMS according to various illnesses....the first part is free and I think the second part is only about £5......
2013, were you given any instructions as to how to take MMS, or did you just use your own intuition?
time2wakeup
23-01-2009, 01:17 PM
I think Jim Humble opinion is that MMS would be of great benefit to people with cancer. I hate the word 'cure' why not heal?. There is a recent project camelot interview with Jim iv not checked out, so maybe this situation has changed. Lostinthestrangeworld - you sometimes need to read between the lines on this cancer claims - it is not in Jims benefit to say its a be all and end all cancer cure even if it was - the FDA would could down so hard on him its not worth the hassel. I like the post from starcat about our bodys being different, the need to detox and the addition of cellfood.
If you really want to see if it works for cancer, cubibear (you tube channel) put a video a year ago about his experiences helping his cancer. He also used another supplement, but the main thing is he is still doing well and is in a lot better shape had he gone the conventional route.
starcat
23-01-2009, 04:19 PM
I agree with you time2wakeup - and I do believe that we all find different paths to healing - which is a natural process in our soul's journey, dependent upon where we are in our level of consciousness. David Hawkins has written some interesting studies on this in Power vs Force.
I know of many people who have apparently 'healed' their so-called dis-ease, by identifying the primary cause and defusing it at the source, thereby restoring balance to the whole body.
Obviously, if a body is full of physical toxins such as chemicals absorbed through food and water, or heavy metals and environmental pollutants, then the body isn't going to function too well - so you detox it and remove the crap - your cells function more efficiently, and your body's natural healing mechanism kicks back in - and you get better.
Same process if the cause is emotional toxins - as in negative and self-destructive thoughts of fear, anger and guilt. Identify and clear the primary emotion(s) that set up your adult patterns of behaviour, and you regain a balanced perspective on life - and you get better.
Cancer is merely a label. Clear the whole body - physical, mental, emotional and spiritual - as much as you can, on whatever level you can, and you can't help but improve your quality of life, no matter what your disability or disease.
Try the MMS . . . . . . . . it does appear to work on all levels, as I believe someone mentioned in an earlier post. Emotional issues may come up if they are a primary cause of your dis-ease, and many can find this difficult to cope with, particularly if you don't know that this may be part of your healing process. That's when you need to learn to listen to, and trust, your body.
How does it (your body) feel about the thought of taking MMS?
Does it feel excited? scared? comfortable? happy? unsure?
Your body is your 'barometer to your soul'.
On a physical level - it needs nutrients and movement in adequate amounts.
Mentally - it needs peaceful challenges, low to moderate stress.
Emotionally - healthy self-esteem and emotionally balnaced choice
Spiritually - a 'knowing' of your Source
Do you have anything to lose by taking MMS and seeing if it makes a difference for you? Does what you have read about it sound like it could work for some condition you have?
If so, take a chance! If it doesn't work, at least you will know that it doesn't work for you.
All the best
We need to find out, somehow, if Jim Humble's claims are true- that MMS can cure cancer.
There is an ebook on Jim Humble's website that tells you how to take MMS according to various illnesses....the first part is free and I think the second part is only about £5......
2013, were you given any instructions as to how to take MMS, or did you just use your own intuition?
I got instructions with it , basicaly increse the drops from a couple up to 15 per day . stop if it makes you overly sick or have a bad stomach . It is a bitter taste a bit like drinking a swimming pool but you get used to it .Add organic apple juice to mask that if needs be . I didnt have any sickness or nausea with it .This could of been down to the other health remedies i was doing such as essiac tincture and apricot seeds ,as wellas organic juices daily . My tonsil was infected and very mutated . An earlier scan had shown clear of cancer but the tonsil continued to eat away at my throat .so needed treatment . So its hard for me to say if the MMS contributed towards slowing the growth .Like i said earlier it did me no harm at least . But each person is different so try it yourself .I took it over a long period of time 6 months maybe more like 9 .:D you should recieve instructions when you order it . The person i bought it from sold thru ebay but is no longer allowed to ,so cant help with that one sorry .
I'm game! I'll goto the recommended sites to view further testimonials. I appreciate this information.
I had a bad cold that turned into bronchitis a month ago and I still can't clear my chest even after taking antibiotics.
Thanks a bunch! Keep us all posted as I will should I start the program! :)
I'm looking about investigating this product. Here are a couple of videos regarding the subject.
The first is an interview with a medical doctor. He practices in Mexico. Makes sense, I doubt an AMA physician would approve of MMS as it he may well not be educated about it. I also understand that non American countries are more open to alternative treatments.
In the second video, a gentleman explains how to properly mix the solution. First he demonstrates how to mix a one drop solution, then how to mix a fifteen drop solution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1eqTajcpQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tZ22UEQwU
I really like this doctor.
Part II of the interview - a continuation from above post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA37W_CIc8Q
onourwayto2012
24-01-2009, 12:21 AM
Hi everyone, just received my MMS today. Have only read the basic protocol however. Considering my current situation, I have some questions.... I separated from my wife last year and since then have escalated my consumption of bubbly adult beverages and less than healthy food choices. Quite a bit actually.....so does anyone know how this fits in with this sort of lifestyle? I could cut back and make some changes but not sure at this time if I could give up everything at once. Can this be done while still consuming alcohol??....any comments??.....thanks
cruise4
24-01-2009, 12:10 PM
Two of us have been using MMS for about a fortnight now...
One went 5 twice a day for a day, then 10 for a day, then 15 and stayed at that level.
I went one, twice a day for 3 days, then 2 for 1 day, then 3 for 3 days and now I'm on 5. I'll keep going and upping the dosage.
This is 28% MMS with 5 drops of Citric per drop of MMS.
Results so far...
Odd moment of feeling sick, maybe twice in the whole exercise, not that bad and quickly passes.
Motivation increased within days.
Muscles that have creaked are eased and joints feel much better.
Muscle pulling brought on by stress strangely relieved.
Taste becomes a bit... uugggh, but easily handled especially with Juice.
I'll keep going for a few months and post more as developments occur.
I would say this stuff is doing something beneficial, but it's early days.
lifeofbrian
24-01-2009, 11:12 PM
Hi everyone, just received my MMS today. Have only read the basic protocol however. Considering my current situation, I have some questions.... I separated from my wife last year and since then have escalated my consumption of bubbly adult beverages and less than healthy food choices. Quite a bit actually.....so does anyone know how this fits in with this sort of lifestyle? I could cut back and make some changes but not sure at this time if I could give up everything at once. Can this be done while still consuming alcohol??....any comments??.....thanks
View your alcohol consumption like medicin; ie keep the MMS and Other Drugs ~alcohol and nicotine ~ at least one hour apart. The MMS will gradually make you need less of the drugs.
In effect: if you take 5 drops of MMS + 25 drops lemon juice at 7am, wait until 8am before you drink coffee, tea, alcohol, or have a puff of nicotine.
Same goes for cannabis users.
Same goes for cancer patients ~ take the 'presciption drugs' meds an hour later.
Same goes for those on ADDmeds or antidepressants.
In time, conventional meds will be useless as your immune system is back to normal through MMS, able to fight whatever does not belong in a healthy body.
Much Love & Best wishes. :)
lifeofbrian
24-01-2009, 11:24 PM
To those who want to fight alcoholism and/or drug addiction;
work your way up the protocol to 5 drops 3 times a day: 15 drops of MMS a day.
Stay there for two weeks/14days.
You are now completely detoxicated. Nothing in the body now needs any drug.
Any craving is mental, and so, the choice is yours:
Do you want to be Free
or a Slave
under the false lover you label Drug?
Your choice.
alternative_answer
25-01-2009, 11:19 AM
This chap was at the British Constitutional Conference in Stoke yesterday, he lives in Windemere. Provided some leaflets and a blog www.makemms.blogspot.com/
cruise4
25-01-2009, 04:10 PM
Last night after posting the previous post I did get quite ill. Felt flu-like symptoms and had a raging headache, feverish etc. Lasted about 6 hours until I could fall asleep.
patrish
25-01-2009, 06:03 PM
Hi,
I have had the MMS solution since november, I started yesterday with one drop in the morning and one in the evening, today two drops this morning.
I'm taking it with apple juice with no extra vitamin c
Nothing appears to have happened yet, but its early days.
Will keep you informed of my progress
much love
Patrish xx
Last night after posting the previous post I did get quite ill. Felt flu-like symptoms and had a raging headache, feverish etc. Lasted about 6 hours until I could fall asleep.
Is it possible that you increased the dosage too soon? I hope you are feeling better. :) Please keep us posted.
I have just this morning ordered the MMS and activator. As I am unsure of how I will react I plan to take it slow and do one drop at a time for, say, a week and go from there.
As with the other posters here, I plan to share my experiences as well.
I want to express my appreciation for this information.
To our health!
alternative_answer
26-01-2009, 01:36 PM
I'm up to 4/20 today and have felt tired and a little nausea this morning, also excess wind, can't stop burping. I don't generally feel like eating much these days either.
patrish
27-01-2009, 08:06 PM
I'm still on two drops - at the moment I think going onto more would mean I would have to live in the bathroom. My appetite has increased and I am eating much more, but I have noticed that if I eat crap junk stuff it gets removed very quickly. So I think before I eat. I am sleeping much better and am dreaming much more
Maybe I have more bad stuff to get rid of, I'm going to risk 3 drops(what am I doing!!) tonight, wish me well
much love
Patrish xxx
lostinstrangeworld
28-01-2009, 12:47 PM
Anybody heard of "Oxy Silver"? Apparently this too is a good pathogen destroyer.
I might have to try MMS out on myself soon, I've had these benign lumps on my gums for the past few years, but just lately I've noticed a few reddish spots in my mouth, need to find out what they are soon. (My sister mentioned a few weeks ago that it could be a sign of mouth cancer, but I didn't think much of it, until now- it's still there).
I'm not making this face though: :eek:
If it does turn out to be something serious like cancer, then maybe it's a way that my higher self has volunteered for me to help prove that this stuff does work.
If not, then maybe I'm slightly a hypochondriact! :rolleyes: :o
alternative_answer
28-01-2009, 06:14 PM
I'm up to 4/20 today and have felt tired and a little nausea this morning, also excess wind, can't stop burping. I don't generally feel like eating much these days either.
I'm on 6/30 tonight before blanket street!!! (Bed) I'm doing ok so far, no real debilitating nausea or anything else. I sleep like a log, have more energy.
lostinstrangeworld
29-01-2009, 03:37 PM
This looks just as fascinating as MMS, I found a link to Oxy Silver....I don't know whether it is as cheap as MMS though as I am trying to find out how much a person needs to take, dosage...however my library session is nearly over so there isn't enough time for me to find this out right now. If anyone knows, do post info.
http://www.oxysilver.com/index.asp
innerpotential
29-01-2009, 05:33 PM
This looks just as fascinating as MMS, I found a link to Oxy Silver....I don't know whether it is as cheap as MMS though as I am trying to find out how much a person needs to take, dosage...however my library session is nearly over so there isn't enough time for me to find this out right now. If anyone knows, do post info.
http://www.oxysilver.com/index.asp
Hi,
First ever post !!!! :)
First I'd like to say thanks to the mods for making this a Sticky...Otherwise I would probably of never been made aware of MMS. Which I have been using for 3 days now.
In reply to the above "Oxy Silver". Just looked on the website
Found the price for 1x bottle is $49.40
Link: http://www.oxysilver.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2
Priority Mail® International 6 - 10 Days - To the U.K. anyway
= $32.25:eek:
But interestingly it is part of Dr Len Horowitz business interests who is Author of the book - DNA: Pirates of the sacred spiral. Which is where the link to 528hz freq' comes in. Since it is claimed that it is used to repair damaged DNA.
innerpotential
29-01-2009, 06:11 PM
Been using MMS now for 3 days.
Following the protocol of building this up into larger doses over a number of days.
i.e.
1st day: 1 drop mms solution with 5 drops Citric Acid
2nd day: 2 drops "" """ "" 10 "" "" ""
3rd day: 3 drops "" """ "" 15 "" "" ""
First started kicking in after 24 hours. And went to the Toilet and some slight diarrhoea. Just my body being gently cleansed.
I feel more ''empty'' - not a ''hungry'' feel as such. And no Nausea at the moment.
This is thought to be a minor side effect of taking MMS.
My aim is to:
1. Flush out the Bacteria, Fungi and any other un-needed crap! lol
2. Rid several toe nails of Fungus.
3. Incidently Jim Humble the creator of MMS recommends that the first place you deal with is the Mouth. Hence, I want to see if I can banish Tooth Decay.
This is what he says in Part 2 of the E-book [part 1 is free as a download]
$12.95 as a download. Called: The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century
How to Use MMS For Personal Health:
MMS can change the health of your mouth in one week. The health of your mouth is the most important thing to first address with MMS, because the health of your mouth affects the health of your entire body. So when you begin to take MMS also make sure your treat your mouth. After seeing thousands of people getting better after taking MMS, the ones that do the best are the ones that make their mouth healthy.
Curing Diseases Chapter 10 Page12
MMS works fast.
Use 10 drops of MMS in a glass and add 50 drops of lemon, or lime juice, or 10% citric acid solution in the same glass. As usual swirl the mixture, wait 3 minutes and then add about ¼ glass of water. Use this solution to brush the teeth. You can use the same solution the brush your teeth and gums two or three times a day when you are first starting. Be sure to brush your gums. Use a new solution every morning. The MMS will brighten and strengthen the enamel on your teeth. What really happens is that the MMS kills the virus on the enamel that ordinarily does the damage
Abscessed teeth, infected gums, and pyorrhea: Expect the pain of an abscessed tooth to be overcome by the immune system in about four hours. Expect all infection and all pyorrhea to be gone in one week. Expect all loose teeth to be rock solid in two weeks. Expect a completely healthy mouth in less than three weeks.
Keep in mind that the MMS solution is the most powerful killer of pathogens known. Once the pyorrhea and infections are killed, the mouth can heal very quickly.
Finally you will need to use MMS only two or three times a week and actually you could even get away with brushing only two or three times a week. There are exceptions, of course. In the case of an abscessed tooth where the abscess is inside the tooth and the MMS cannot reach it through a hole or some other way, the MMS will not then handle the abscess. It will have to be pulled.
Also you need to get rid of all the metal [Mercury etc.] in your mouth. With metal in your mouth you are creating voltages and current that can be read on any volt meter. It’s ruining your health. I’ve seen people who regained their sight merely by replacing the metal in their mouth.
Great information Innerpotential! Thank you for sharing. And of course, welcome! welcome! I'm relatively new here myself and having a blast!! There are much more friendly people here than on some other forums. Very warm and sharing. I hope you enjoy your experience here as much as I.
I enjoy this thread in particular because there is so much information and so many posters sharing their personal experiences in an honest manner. Such honesty is good for people to know as they can make their own educated decision to try MMS or not. My order has not arrived yet, when it does I shall add to the diary of experiences here.
There are other threads addressing health subjects as well. I hope you check them out. With so much suffering that we place upon ourselves or just happen it is good we come together like this to talk. I love it!!!
patrish
29-01-2009, 08:24 PM
Hi,
I went from 4 drops to 5 this morning. Tonight I am back to 4 as I experienced the "dry heaves" about 1/2 hour after I took the solution.
Just had the 4 drops with no pain. So I think I will take it slowly. I'm finding the smell quite off putting. Oh well theres always a clothes peg for my nose.
will keep you posted
Patrish xx
insearch
30-01-2009, 01:09 AM
Seems like everyone is trying to cash in on MMS, it almost makes me doubt its effectiveness - I'm torn between giving it a go and forgeting about it.
Seems easy to source in USA but in the uk people are charging a huge premium.
I know i can purchase in a kit form more cheaply, but frankly i cant be bothered with the hassle of making up a large batch , i only want one bottle at a decent price!.
Anyone got a source in the uk for less than £20?
Thanks in advance.....
simplify
30-01-2009, 01:21 AM
Seems like everyone is trying to cash in on MMS, it almost makes me doubt its effectiveness - I'm torn between giving it a go and forgeting about it.
Seems easy to source in USA but in the uk people are charging a huge premium.
I know i can purchase in a kit form more cheaply, but frankly i cant be bothered with the hassle of making up a large batch , i only want one bottle at a decent price!.
Anyone got a source in the uk for less than £20?
Thanks in advance.....
insearch: i'm in canada, so I don't know a supplier in the UK. I got mine from a US Supplier approved by Jim Humber. It is best imo if you buy it from an approved dealer by Jim Humle, otherwise you may be buying a watered down version, which may not help you. here is a website where there is a very large thread dealing with people using MMS, they talk there about British supplier. You may want to check it out. Loads of feedback also from the people currently using it.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781
You have to be a paid member to post on there, but you can read the thread for free.
thelucifer
30-01-2009, 04:41 AM
Anybody heard of "Oxy Silver"? Apparently this too is a good pathogen destroyer.
I might have to try MMS out on myself soon, I've had these benign lumps on my gums for the past few years, but just lately I've noticed a few reddish spots in my mouth, need to find out what they are soon. (My sister mentioned a few weeks ago that it could be a sign of mouth cancer, but I didn't think much of it, until now- it's still there).
I'm not making this face though: :eek:
If it does turn out to be something serious like cancer, then maybe it's a way that my higher self has volunteered for me to help prove that this stuff does work.
If not, then maybe I'm slightly a hypochondriact! :rolleyes: :o
Lisw you can use 3% Peroxide as mouth wash 3 times a day.
If 3% is to strong (turn your gums white/oxidized) dilute a little with water.
lostinstrangeworld
30-01-2009, 01:59 PM
Lisw you can use 3% Peroxide as mouth wash 3 times a day.
If 3% is to strong (turn your gums white/oxidized) dilute a little with water.
Really?
Omg, if I do, not only will I have a tan from the sunbeds I've been using to treat my psoriasis...but bright white teeth as well....people are going to think I'm so vain!! :p
(Which I'm not). :o
simplify
30-01-2009, 05:59 PM
Lisw you can use 3% Peroxide as mouth wash 3 times a day.
If 3% is to strong (turn your gums white/oxidized) dilute a little with water.
yOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FOOD GRADE PEROXIDE AVAILABLE AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORES, AND NOT THE STUFF YOU BLEACH YOUR HAIR WITH:confused:
simplify
30-01-2009, 06:01 PM
Anybody heard of "Oxy Silver"? Apparently this too is a good pathogen destroyer.
I might have to try MMS out on myself soon, I've had these benign lumps on my gums for the past few years, but just lately I've noticed a few reddish spots in my mouth, need to find out what they are soon. (My sister mentioned a few weeks ago that it could be a sign of mouth cancer, but I didn't think much of it, until now- it's still there).
I'm not making this face though: :eek:
If it does turn out to be something serious like cancer, then maybe it's a way that my higher self has volunteered for me to help prove that this stuff does work.
If not, then maybe I'm slightly a hypochondriact! :rolleyes: :o
Your dentist should be able to tell you if the lumps and spots are cancerous. My dentist told me a few weeks ago, that (I think it is the full mouth scan) that they do is to determine if there is any mouth cancer present. You might want to talk to your dentist.
thelucifer
31-01-2009, 02:14 AM
yOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FOOD GRADE PEROXIDE AVAILABLE AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORES, AND NOT THE STUFF YOU BLEACH YOUR HAIR WITH:confused:
Food grade is preferred, I keep a bottle of 35% in the freezer, but if you cant get Food Grade in your area use the 3% from the store, its ok for mouth wash and brushing teeth, cuts and scrapes.
thelucifer
31-01-2009, 02:17 AM
Lisw check this link out.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www7.mailordercentral.com/familyhealthnews/images/3007cb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www7.mailordercentral.com/familyhealthnews/products.asp%3Fdept%3D1&usg=__jQ-8S3ccxzXc2qd4g9tvV4A49ig=&h=444&w=367&sz=38&hl=en&start=54&um=1&tbnid=KhML3c09iyRm1M:&tbnh=127&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwhat%2Bis%2Boxy%2Bsilver%26start%3D40 %26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26cli ent%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
lostinstrangeworld
31-01-2009, 01:22 PM
Your dentist should be able to tell you if the lumps and spots are cancerous. My dentist told me a few weeks ago, that (I think it is the full mouth scan) that they do is to determine if there is any mouth cancer present. You might want to talk to your dentist.
Yes, I registered myself at an NHS dentist yesterday (I feel fortunate I managed to find one in my area taking new patients....went to this museum in Straford a while ago and there was this list of how many people had died from different things....and one of them was "teeth") :eek:
Lmao...I'm infinite consciousness anyway, what do I care?!
The human body is such a funny, quirky thing!
lostinstrangeworld
31-01-2009, 01:23 PM
Lisw check this link out.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www7.mailordercentral.com/familyhealthnews/images/3007cb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www7.mailordercentral.com/familyhealthnews/products.asp%3Fdept%3D1&usg=__jQ-8S3ccxzXc2qd4g9tvV4A49ig=&h=444&w=367&sz=38&hl=en&start=54&um=1&tbnid=KhML3c09iyRm1M:&tbnh=127&tbnw=105&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwhat%2Bis%2Boxy%2Bsilver%26start%3D40 %26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26cli ent%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
Hopefully it's a reputable site...I always get worried about mischief out there trying to conn people.
alternative_answer
31-01-2009, 09:57 PM
I have been taking MMS for about 9 days now and this afternoon have been experiencing kidney pains, anyone had this problem? Any advice?
simplify
01-02-2009, 05:26 AM
I have been taking MMS for about 9 days now and this afternoon have been experiencing kidney pains, anyone had this problem? Any advice?
I think someone said the same thing on the MMS thread at:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781
It has now become a long thread, but I think you will find your answer there. For what I know personally about detox.....I think this pain is part of the detox systems and will pass. Detoxing the body can have a variety of sytems, & they vary from person to person. If the pain is severe back down on the # of drops until you are pain free for a few days, & then increase again, see what happens.
alternative_answer
01-02-2009, 12:43 PM
I think someone said the same thing on the MMS thread at:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781
It has now become a long thread, but I think you will find your answer there. For what I know personally about detox.....I think this pain is part of the detox systems and will pass. Detoxing the body can have a variety of sytems, & they vary from person to person. If the pain is severe back down on the # of drops until you are pain free for a few days, & then increase again, see what happens.
Thanks, I'm glad to say that this morning on waking the pain and swelling has subsided and I have carried on taking 8/40 drops. I slept extremely well and woke feeling refreshed, which is a recurring theme these days.
insearch
01-02-2009, 04:26 PM
Simplify, thanks for the info.
I eventually ordered some from the USA. I am a fairly cautious person and wanted to make sure that what i was getting was actually what was ordered made to the exact specification. Whilst I praise anyone able to to make it themselves I'm just not keen on buying it from someones kitchen where things are not controlled properly!!!
Anyway, I think I got a good deal, $20/ bottle + postage of $13 to uk. Actually bought a few bottles as postage remains the same for upto 6 bottles and will destribute to family and friends.
The reason I chose this supplier was, as you suggested to me, it was approved by Jim Humble and also the manufacturer is FDA Authorised, so you know they run a professional opperation to the highest standards.
Save others from searching - check this place out: http://www.mmsmiracle.com/originalhumble
May take 2 weeks to get here, but as soon as I start out I'll let people know how i get on.
I ordered last Sunday, January 25th. I hope to receive it soon as I have been tracking the package. It was shipped from Washington State to arrive in Texas.
One thing I have learned since moving to Texas from the East Coast is the mail/post moves very, very slow. I am unaccustomed to this and find it annoying. OK, that was off topic. Sorry.
I have been reading all of your posts with great interest as if a text book for the practice of taking this supplement and the wonderful affects realized. Some of you have noted experiencing varying levels of discomfort and illness and I accept that but do you think that maybe some of you are accelerating the number of drops too soon? Or is this in accordance with package directions? :confused:
Just a thought, no admonishments or holier than thou-ness. :)
macleodmunro
01-02-2009, 11:18 PM
Anyone got a source in the uk for less than £20?
I know the £20 seems a lot, but that bottle will last you a year.
macleodmunro
02-02-2009, 12:05 AM
There is also a good thread in the forum at astrovera.com.
A guy called Peer posted all the highlights from the project avalon thread there (since the avalon thread is so massive).
I've been using mms for over a week now, and have had excellent results with my athletes foot and sinusitis.
I applied it straight to the skin for my athletes foot and had better results than with a whole tube of big pharma cream.
For anyone who is still unsure about trying it. Read through as many forum threads as you can.
I have found the vast majority of results to be very positive.
Peace from Paul.
There is also a good thread in the forum at astrovera.com.
A guy called Peer posted all the highlights from the project avalon thread there (since the avalon thread is so massive).
I've been using mms for over a week now, and have had excellent results with my athletes foot and sinusitis.
I applied it straight to the skin for my athletes foot and had better results than with a whole tube of big pharma cream.
For anyone who is still unsure about trying it. Read through as many forum threads as you can.
I have found the vast majority of results to be very positive.
Peace from Paul.
Sinusitis too? That's great! I have always had an issue with sinusitis throughout my life.
Back in 2005 I had a terrible toothache in my four upper right premolars. Went to the dentist who took X rays and showed me the issue was my sinus pressing on the teeth - one in particular. I went to a GP and he gave me antibiotics but the pressure was such I would not wish on the worst person. A few months later I heard a tiny little cracking noise. A few weeks later I felt what I thought was a crack in one tooth. Several months later that tooth had to be pulled as it was split in half and dead. The sinus pressure was such that it cracked the tooth. The dentist said such a thing is very rare but can happen.
I hope MMS can address my frequent bouts of sinusitis as it has with you.
cruise4
02-02-2009, 05:41 AM
"Is it possible that you increased the dosage too soon?"
No, I don't think so. I think I just had a large release of whatever. I was quite encouraged by feeling so rough :D.
Up to 10 drops, twice a day now. I occasionally feel a bit sick but nothing much. But as someone else said... beware of emotional release. I obviously have some underlying anger issue, and it didn't half catch me unaware the other day, literally poured out, and I'd forgotten about this aspect of MMS and spent 12 hours cursing God :D What a fool :D
I'd love to get the Mercury out my mouth. But no longer trust any dentists. I've been using MMS to clean my teeth but nothing to report yet. I've only been doing that for a few days.
Overall though, I haven't felt so good for ages.
My brother is up to 18 drops now. Ditto, feels great. This stuff is definitely affecting joints, muscles, aches and pains, in a good way.
I'm thinking of importing a decent amount of crystals and mixing my own. I've already had to mix the citric acid and just used filtered water. But I plan on buying a distiller and also getting a colloidal silver generator. Getting good reports from my Mother on that one, and she wouldn't say that lightly.
All in all, very pleased to find out about this stuff :D
simplify
02-02-2009, 07:58 AM
Thanks, I'm glad to say that this morning on waking the pain and swelling has subsided and I have carried on taking 8/40 drops. I slept extremely well and woke feeling refreshed, which is a recurring theme these days.
Good work there alternative...glad to hear the pain has subsided, some releasing happening there.
Sorry if I confused you in my previous post I used the word "systems" instead of symptoms. Don't know where that came from, will go back and change it now.:)
macleodmunro
02-02-2009, 11:15 PM
Sinusitis too? That's great! I have always had an issue with sinusitis throughout my life.
I hope MMS can address my frequent bouts of sinusitis as it has with you.
I think it's too early to tell what effect it's had on my sinuses, but i would say my sense of smell has inproved.
The thing with sinusitus is that it's apparently the result of an infection in the intestines. So it doesn't matter how much you squirt remedies up your nose.
MMS should wipe out the problem at the source.
You might want to try steaming your nose over a bowl of hot water with mms added. I've heard it's good for breathing problems. Although i've never tried it myself. I think i will if my sinuses flare up again.
I think it's too early to tell what effect it's had on my sinuses, but i would say my sense of smell has inproved.
The thing with sinusitus is that it's apparently the result of an infection in the intestines. So it doesn't matter how much you squirt remedies up your nose.
MMS should wipe out the problem at the source.
You might want to try steaming your nose over a bowl of hot water with mms added. I've heard it's good for breathing problems. Although i've never tried it myself. I think i will if my sinuses flare up again.
I've never heard that. Over the years doctor's have suspected that my sinuses do not drain properly either as a result of a birth defect or an early age illness that affects proper drainage development.
I was advised years ago that when I even begin to feel slight pressure to take decongestants. Have been doing so for years now. That route has helped greatly and I have fewer infections but still I sometimes have them.
Whether the issue be in the intestine or with drainage it will be interesting to see how or if MMS addresses it.
Will take my first dose this evening. Absolutely no time this morning.
lostinstrangeworld
03-02-2009, 02:44 PM
It's great to hear from so many people who have tried MMS, thank you all for sharing your experiences.
Jim Humble actually, I believe, explains how people can make their own MMS in his ebooks (the first book is free, the second is just a fiver). Unfortunately I don't have internet set up at home yet so I havve not been able to puruse any more research into this, but I will get onto it soon. Meanwhile, do continue to share what you know/ have experienced with MMS.
Chears, me dears! :D
I took my first dose last night, 1:5. The taste wasn't bad to me but the odor was strong. As usual, I woke up during the night but I noticed that the pain in my shoulder joints was reduced and for once since December I did not cough up phlegm from the bronchitis I had back then. I have been unable to clear my chest all this time. This morning my neck and shoulders were sore and aching as normal and I did cough out a bit a phlegm.
Took second dose this morning, 1:5. Driving to work, I noticed the neck pain reduced but not completely gone. It's back now.
It's still early on in the regimen.
onourwayto2012
03-02-2009, 10:36 PM
View your alcohol consumption like medicin; ie keep the MMS and Other Drugs ~alcohol and nicotine ~ at least one hour apart. The MMS will gradually make you need less of the drugs.
In effect: if you take 5 drops of MMS + 25 drops lemon juice at 7am, wait until 8am before you drink coffee, tea, alcohol, or have a puff of nicotine.
Same goes for cannabis users.
Same goes for cancer patients ~ take the 'presciption drugs' meds an hour later.
Same goes for those on ADDmeds or antidepressants.
In time, conventional meds will be useless as your immune system is back to normal through MMS, able to fight whatever does not belong in a healthy body.
Much Love & Best wishes. :)
thanks much LoB
onourwayto2012
03-02-2009, 10:37 PM
To those who want to fight alcoholism and/or drug addiction;
work your way up the protocol to 5 drops 3 times a day: 15 drops of MMS a day.
Stay there for two weeks/14days.
You are now completely detoxicated. Nothing in the body now needs any drug.
Any craving is mental, and so, the choice is yours:
Do you want to be Free
or a Slave
under the false lover you label Drug?
Your choice.
and thanks for this as well!
arten
03-02-2009, 10:40 PM
MMS is basically just like H2O2, Hydrogen Peroxide.
Its an oxidizer thus kills anaerobic microbes and stops/reverses anaerobic processes.
Both have two atoms of oxygen.
Lisw have you watched any of the youtube MMS stuff ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8
edit - oops, I see you post the google link.
Yep a spoonful of Hydrogen peroxide every now and again will keep the quacks at bay and keep you looking young and energetic! I bought my bottle from a vet because they put it into the animals feed!:eek:
Ok having gone through the thread I can tell you all that I have been using this for the last ten years on and off and wrote about it on the thread on here about cancer today. This stuff works not only does it keep you healthy it also helps heal the body fast and slows down the agein process. Everytime we eat, in breaking down the food and releasing the energy we create free radicals that do all the damage. Taking hydrogen peroxide with water once a day is enough to neturalise the effect of free radicals. Like I said on the other thread last year I sustained an injury playing soccer in Spain. The result was I had a massive bruise that covered my thigh, it was black not blue. As soon as I got back to the UK I showed my brother took some hp in my water and the bruising was gone next day much to his amazement. There is no doubt it works that is why those in control of medicine want to ban it.
simplify
04-02-2009, 07:29 AM
I took my first dose last night, 1:5. The taste wasn't bad to me but the odor was strong. As usual, I woke up during the night but I noticed that the pain in my shoulder joints was reduced and for once since December I did not cough up phlegm from the bronchitis I had back then. I have been unable to clear my chest all this time. This morning my neck and shoulders were sore and aching as normal and I did cough out a bit a phlegm.
Took second dose this morning, 1:5. Driving to work, I noticed the neck pain reduced but not completely gone. It's back now.
It's still early on in the regimen.
Coco: do you have arthritis in your shoulders? If so, I am eager to know how the MMS will help with it?
Coco: do you have arthritis in your shoulders? If so, I am eager to know how the MMS will help with it?
I have never been checked for that but I honestly don't think it is, rather tendonitis as my shoulders, elbows and wrists got a terrible workout during the 1980's and 1990's keying large amounts information fast and furious into the computer.
I worked in my company's vehicle repair shop and customer service and keying daily maintenance forms was one of my duties. I also keyed alot of information regarding insurance, attorneys, accident reports, restitution, invoicing, and EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) information daily. By the time I was 25 I would ice my elbows down in the evenings. I was actually proud that I finished in the top five at a company keying contest one year. Hah! I was an intense person back then.
I will say this, I initially said a few posts ago that I would use the MMS at 1:5 for a week before trying elevated measurements. I guess I found my bravery as last night I used 2:5 as well as this morning. My shoulders and neck are less sore and tired. My elbows feel less tired and stressed and, as a result, my quality of handwriting has improved about 1 half of a percent. My wrists are also feeling a tad better.
I am also experiencing a bit of a gassy tummy. A bit inconvenient as I'm at work and can't just belch in an obvious manner.
Thank you for asking and thank all of you for sharing your experiences and turning me on to this supplement. So far, so good!
Addendum: I never considered an irritation to the bursa of the the shoulders existing. My shoulders have been bugging me more than my elbows and wrists.
loracat5
05-02-2009, 01:44 AM
We got our MMS this afternoon and being the crusaders that we are, we took our first doses by 4 pm . I started with two drops. I have felt no nausea or diarrhea yet and its after 7:30 pm but I do feel like my eyes are wider and the whites are even whiter and the dark blue line around the light blue is darker. I had to drive to my nannies to fix her satellite or basically hit the music button to get her stations back on :) anyway, on my way there I felt just charged up but on the way back, I noticed that the things being picked up in my passenger side mirror were so noticeable that I kept thinking something or someone was there. I kept looking over to see what I was seeing in my peripheral. So MMS is enhancing my peripheral vision? I am a smoker who dos not inhale most of the time. I went for at least and hour without a puff but even when I did light up, it was not because I was craving it. I still feel energized! My husband Scott on the other hand had to be a hero and start with three drops . He said he felt weird in the head and had a burning feeling in his stomach region. He took another four drop dose by the time I returned from nannies and said he is fine but he feels hot. I hope he will be ok otherwise learn to fallow directions. We are both healthy except for my coughing at knight and a mild asthma attack once in a while. I did have that breathing thru a sponge feeling on my way to nannies but it went away without a puffer so maybe this will clear my chest and I will be woo hoo able to beat Scott in endurance as well as sprinting. I feel good . I cant wait to see how I feel tomorrow morning after my three drop dose.
Loracat5,
Thank you for your posting. I admit when after my first couple of doses at 1:5, I too felt more alert, energetic, but I didn't know if this was a psychological effect as I was excited or if I was really feeling it after so few doses. You have confirmed it!
I have read the others' posts and am very excited indeed, but I want to remain as objective as possible for myself and so I will be able to accurate accounts to our fellow thread members.
This afternoon shoulder and neck discomfort returned somewhat. My right knee hasn't ached or felt stiff since my first dose. I used to walk alot and also work out on a stair climber and climb stairs as a fitness routine. When I became older my right knee started to feel achey and stiff - just like my father's. I thought this was perfectly natural after those sorts of activities but since my first dose of MMS, my knee has not felt that way.
I have been very absent minded. I must mention this! A fellow MMS user and I spoke about things and he suggested that it is possible that neck/shoulder aches and pains could be a result of imbalanced chakras or intestinal issues. While I have no proof of this and he mentioned he did not either, it's something to consider.
simplify
05-02-2009, 05:16 AM
Loracat5,
Thank you for your posting. I admit when after my first couple of doses at 1:5, I too felt more alert, energetic, but I didn't know if this was a psychological effect as I was excited or if I was really feeling it after so few doses. You have confirmed it!
I have read the others' posts and am very excited indeed, but I want to remain as objective as possible for myself and so I will be able to accurate accounts to our fellow thread members.
This afternoon shoulder and neck discomfort returned somewhat. My right knee hasn't ached or felt stiff since my first dose. I used to walk alot and also work out on a stair climber and climb stairs as a fitness routine. When I became older my right knee started to feel achey and stiff - just like my father's. I thought this was perfectly natural after those sorts of activities but since my first dose of MMS, my knee has not felt that way.
I have been very absent minded. I must mention this! A fellow MMS user and I spoke about things and he suggested that it is possible that neck/shoulder aches and pains could be a result of imbalanced chakras or intestinal issues. While I have no proof of this and he mentioned he did not either, it's something to consider.
Coco...tks for keeping us posted on your results. I plan on starting mine next week. Will be away this weekend, so don't want to start it now. Interestingly, on the projectavalon forum, one person had some emotion (anger) issue being released, he was luckily aware of what was happening and went with the flow of clearing out that energy. So I think that's a nice bonus, if that happens to us. Always good to clear out old baggage::)
Loracat: Thats great that you and hubby and doing this together, but I wonder who will have to back off on the drops soon:D Men....they like to be heroes.
arten
05-02-2009, 01:02 PM
[QUOTE=loracat5;780267]We got our MMS this afternoon and being the crusaders that we are, we took our first doses by 4 pm .
When you first tasted it did you have a mouthful of creamy bubbles LOL it is not that unpleaseant and if you have the liquid in the fridge for a year or more it loses the bubbles and becomes more bleachy in taste but it still does the job!
patrish
05-02-2009, 02:21 PM
I got brave (stupid) and upped my doses too quickly. I was so, so sick. Please take it steady.
Patrish
arten
05-02-2009, 02:26 PM
I got brave (stupid) and upped my doses too quickly. I was so, so sick. Please take it steady.
Patrish
The old Maxim is best: All things in moderation :D Should add take it in your tea.
cruise4
05-02-2009, 03:18 PM
"I got brave (stupid) and upped my doses too quickly. I was so, so sick. Please take it steady."
How much did you do patrish?
I'm not so sure being sick isn't a good sign. As I mentioned I was sick too but haven't been again. I'm wondering if pathogens can build a tolerance by a slow increase whereas a swift kick does the job more effectively. Or is it just an environment/alkaline effect and once there the pathogens just cannot survive.
I've stopped for the last two days to check what occurs. Noticed nothing.
My brother is up to 18 drops twice a day now.
jolinemaria
05-02-2009, 03:47 PM
If you were too brave ;) and get too sick thaen yoy can stop the working of MMS by taking a dose of vitamin c. It will stop the process.
Your kindneys and liver need to be able to flush all the dead pathogens.
So building up slow is good esp. if you are not in a good condition.
The pathogens don't build up tolerance accorfing to Jim Humble, so no need to be speedy for that reason.
loracat5
06-02-2009, 12:52 AM
Loracat: Thats great that you and hubby and doing this together, but I wonder who will have to back off on the drops soon:D Men....they like to be heroes.[/QUOTE]
Well, looks like we have a competition now that you asked LOL The super hero is up to seven drops he took six this morning and only felt high headed. I will have to take four this evening because I took three this morning. I am a firm believer in building up the tolerance. All I felt this morning was the high headedness but we both agree that once it is gone, we feel pretty good.
loracat5
06-02-2009, 01:01 AM
[QUOTE=loracat5;780267]We got our MMS this afternoon and being the crusaders that we are, we took our first doses by 4 pm .
When you first tasted it did you have a mouthful of creamy bubbles LOL it is not that unpleaseant and if you have the liquid in the fridge for a year or more it loses the bubbles and becomes more bleachy in taste but it still does the job!
Are we supposed to feel bubbles‘? All we get is a greenish chlorine smelling chemical. I add a little H20 to drink it down with . The taste doesn’t bother me at all. I am use to drinking apple cider vinegar water so this is mild compared..
[QUOTE=arten;781144]
Are we supposed to feel bubbles‘? All we get is a greenish chlorine smelling chemical. I add a little H20 to drink it down with . The taste doesn’t bother me at all. I am use to drinking apple cider vinegar water so this is mild compared..
I cannot drink apple cider vinegar straight either and must water it down as well. When I do drink it I gulp it quickly or I will be sick. But the potassium concentration is beneficial.
I have never had bubbles in my MMS mixture and the taste to me is not bad. The first day the odor was annoying but after that it didn't bother me anymore.
loracat5
06-02-2009, 01:42 AM
[QUOTE=loracat5;782817]
I cannot drink apple cider vinegar straight either and must water it down as well. When I do drink it I gulp it quickly or I will be sick. But the potassium concentration is beneficial.
I have never had bubbles in my MMS mixture and the taste to me is not bad. The first day the odor was annoying but after that it didn't bother me anymore.
Scott drank his seven drops and felt woozy for a bit . I was persuaded to do five instead four . I don’t feel woozy but fuzzy headed again. I do feel a tingling sensations in my upper body from under my skin. It may be from the tanning bed. Goodnight for now…..Thanks, I didn’t think we were supposed to see bubbles
You could add a little honey to your vinegar water to sweeten it up.
[QUOTE=coco;782838]
Scott drank his seven drops and felt woozy for a bit . I was persuaded to do five instead four . I don’t feel woozy but fuzzy headed again. I do feel a tingling sensations in my upper body from under my skin. It may be from the tanning bed. Goodnight for now…..Thanks, I didn’t think we were supposed to see bubbles
You could add a little honey to your vinegar water to sweeten it up.
Hey, good idea. *slaps forehead* why didn't I think of that before??
macleodmunro
06-02-2009, 02:17 AM
Hi all, i've managed to get up 10 drops, 3 times a day.
I think you're meant to aim for 15 drops, 3 times a day, for a week. By then your system should be cleared out and you only need a 6 drop dose twice a week for maintenance.
Also for anyone who suffers from athletes foot. I applied mms directly to the infected area twice after showering and it is now completely gone.
This has been a recuring problem for about 20 years, so this alone has made it worth the money for me.
Hi all, i've managed to get up 10 drops, 3 times a day.
I think you're meant to aim for 15 drops, 3 times a day, for a week. By then your system should be cleared out and you only need a 6 drop dose twice a week for maintenance.
Also for anyone who suffers from athletes foot. I applied mms directly to the infected area twice after showering and it is now completely gone.
This has been a recuring problem for about 20 years, so this alone has made it worth the money for me.
How are you feeling otherwise? Energy, sleep quality, muscle aches?
My ex husband suffers athlete's foot. We used powders and creams - creams marketed for ladies' thrush infection - it's the same malady, different location. It helped but the only thing that would reeally cure it was when the season would change to cooler and dryer air.
arten
06-02-2009, 12:06 PM
[QUOTE=arten;781144]
Are we supposed to feel bubbles‘? All we get is a greenish chlorine smelling chemical. I add a little H20 to drink it down with . The taste doesn’t bother me at all. I am use to drinking apple cider vinegar water so this is mild compared..
I think we are using different liquids mine is food grade Hydrogen Peroxide while you are taking Chlorine dioxide. Mine did use to go all creamy and bubbly but it seems to have lost that and is now a little bleachy but it still does the job I tend to put a spoonful in my tea once a day.
patrish
06-02-2009, 08:37 PM
i upped my dose from 6 drops of mms to 7, within 10mins I felt very sick, holding my hand over my mouth, just making it to the bathroom.
I then thought take vitmanin c to counter act the MMS so I drank some juice with Vitamin C in it - more sickness, so confused I took some water with sodium bicarbonate in.
Then just so very sick for about 12hours didn't know what to do - thought I might be dying and just thought what the hell - let it be quick
But survived to tell the tale will be more careful in future
patrish xx
i upped my dose from 6 drops of mms to 7, within 10mins I felt very sick, holding my hand over my mouth, just making it to the bathroom.
I then thought take vitmanin c to counter act the MMS so I drank some juice with Vitamin C in it - more sickness, so confused I took some water with sodium bicarbonate in.
Then just so very sick for about 12hours didn't know what to do - thought I might be dying and just thought what the hell - let it be quick
But survived to tell the tale will be more careful in future
patrish xx
You poor dear, you confused your tummy. I'm glad you're better. I appreciate your posts. :) Believe it or not, I wish I could have the 'cleansing' experience you reported a few posts back. Perhaps soon (fingers crossed).
I'm going to switch to third gear this evening (3:15). I will take it before bed. Doubt I will be able to report tomorrow as my father spends his Saturday on the computer.
pure_energy
06-02-2009, 10:23 PM
Right guys...
Got my and I was waiting a little bit to get a descent amount before posting...
I am so far on 7 drops and I am only increasing once a day( increase 1 drop every morning )... I dont know if this method is going to give me any trouble but is doing great for nauseas etc ( did not got any).
So far my sinus is way better and if you guys knew me before you would know what I am talking about ( I work on the telephone and before everyone asked me if I had a cold but now nobody ask anything ).
My teeth abscess ( I have an doctor appointment to remove on Wednesday ) is not hurting anymore ( I was on antibiotics and painkillers before).
I have been feeling very tired after the 5th drop but I am not sure if is the mms making effect.
I am still not fully convinced because of that... I feel very tired and my throat is Very sore... I refuse to take more antibiotics for it and hope that is the mms working on it. To be pretty honest I thought after all the things I read that this would make me fell 100% better and so far the good thing are a bit relative and not 100% quantified. ( I had some good times with my sinus before ).
Is difficult to measure even because I dont have nay hardcore disease but I will keep going and keep you guys up dated.
Peace
Ps. Pineapple juice is THE BOMB for the smell and taste.... like I said I am on 7 drops and there is no taste whatsoever.
loracat5
07-02-2009, 01:00 AM
This morning I took 6 drops and did fine except I for my stingy nose. I sneezed all day and experienced free flowing clear liquid from my nose. I took seven tonight and still am not experiencing stomach or bowel upset. Scott took nine drops this morning and 11 this evening. He has been sneezing too but is still not upset in the stomach or bowels. Maybe the MMS is cleaning out our sinuses or getting rid of an old cold virus.
I did notice that the smell gets worse with higher doses. Maybe I will try Pure Energy’s Pineapple juice recommendation. Think I will jump too nine in the morning or maybe 10. I am sorry Patrish that you got so sick but look at the bright side, you are getting rid of some really bad stuff. I am sure that I will reach a stopping point eventually but it sure would be nice to quickly move up and on to get past that 15 drops twice a day for two weeks stage. Its time consuming to count all of those drops of citric acid. I will be adding 75 drops when I reach the 15 drop MMS point. That’s a lot of drops
loracat5
07-02-2009, 01:09 AM
[QUOTE=macleodmunro;783013]Hi all, i've managed to get up 10 drops, 3 times a day.
I think you're meant to aim for 15 drops, 3 times a day, for a week. By then your system should be cleared out and you only need a 6 drop dose twice a week for maintence.
I am going to have to re read the instructions because I thought it was build up to 15 drops twice a day for 14 days.
macleodmunro
07-02-2009, 01:45 AM
I've read so much on the mms subject that i've no idea where i got that from.
It could have been on a different forum or the project camelot interview with Jim Humble.
We need to be sure what we're aiming for.
Sorry if i got it wrong.
macleodmunro
07-02-2009, 02:12 AM
Scott took nine drops this morning and 11 this evening.
Think I will jump too nine in the morning or maybe 10.
Be careful guys, i thought i was doing really well and handling it without any real problems.
I maybe got over confident. I got up to 10 drops, 3 times yesterday, and i was fine. Until now i hadden't felt sick at all. Some days my stomach would have a good clear out, but that's it.
Well this morning at about 10ish i went for 12 drops, and was violently sick for about 5 hours. I've also had constant doses of the shits all day too.
It's now 1am UK time and i'm still having shits and a churning stomach.
I think i'm at a crossroads as to whether i want to keep going with it.
I don't know if i want to put myself through another day like this again.
I'll see how i feel in the morning. Maybe i just need to take the weekend off.
Take care
cruise4
07-02-2009, 07:59 AM
I carried on after after being sick but it didn't occur again. Don't stop just as it starts paying off.
loracat5
07-02-2009, 03:38 PM
I feel like crap! My head and eyes are achy, my nose is sore from blowing it and my eyes look weak and putrid. I still feel stings in my nose. I just took eight drops this morning and will do nine tonight. I think that I would rather vomit than feel this sinus pressure. I must have a lots of bad stuff in my nasal passages. Every thing coming out is completely clear. I am experiencing the Herxheimer reaction so I need to drink lots of water to help my body flush out the toxic over load. Scott is up to thirteen and is good to go so it seems. Cruies4 is right, keep on going. Getting sick means getting well. Just help your body rid its self of the bad by drinking lotts of water.
pure_energy
07-02-2009, 08:41 PM
I feel like crap! My head and eyes are achy, my nose is sore from blowing it and my eyes look weak and putrid. I still feel stings in my nose. I just took eight drops this morning and will do nine tonight. I think that I would rather vomit than feel this sinus pressure. I must have a lots of bad stuff in my nasal passages. Every thing coming out is completely clear. I am experiencing the Herxheimer reaction so I need to drink lots of water to help my body flush out the toxic over load. Scott is up to thirteen and is good to go so it seems. Cruies4 is right, keep on going. Getting sick means getting well. Just help your body rid its self of the bad by drinking lotts of water.
I never read about Herxheimer reaction before and I hope that is what is happening to me....
I was on 7 drops yesterday morning and out of the blue my throat started to hurt... yesterday night got even worst, I was shivering with a lot of muscle pain and I am still with an horrendous sore throat.. I can barely speak or swallow. I feel like a normal sore throat that ( back in the past ) I would treat with antibiotics.
I stop on 7 (I am still taking but will not increase untill I got better ) and I am hopping that the MMS will take care of it but then again it is still not very clear in my mind why this natural medicine make almost everyone sick before makes better. For me is the same to say :
" ok then you get a fever, well I am going to give a paracetamol that will make your fever go from 38ºC to 42ºC ( 100ºF / 107ºF ) and on the 3º day it will start going down to normal levels."
macleodmunro
07-02-2009, 08:51 PM
I found the guidelines i was thinking of before.
You increase to 15 drops maximum, twice a day, without nausia.
Once you reach this point you increase to 3 times a day, for at least 1 week.
http://www.projectavalon.org/forum/showthread.php?7&t=4781&page=2
This is the first time i have posted a link and i'm quite new to the world of computers, so forgive me if it doesn't work.
The second post by peaceandlove gives a ful guideline.
I took 3:15 last night. 3:15 offers a stronger odor and taste. The taste seems sour to me and I may have to start using juice instead of water. I experienced a 'stitch' in the left side of stomach. Not painful at all, certainly noticeable. Gas? Gastric juices reacting with MMS solution? Gall bladder reaction? :confused: Also a few minutes after MMS ingestion I feel a sensation in the left kidney. Not pain nor discomfort. I wish I could describe it - something like a very minor flinching. But, of course, the kidney doesn't have the ability to 'flinch' so please excuse the inappropriate word.
Loracat5, I lived in Florida all my life until a year and a half ago - Hillsborough County, north of you. :) This time of year is typically windy, warm, chilly, pleasant. A dermatologist told me some years ago that during fall and spring the plants are confused because the weather flip flops so often and they don't know whether to bloom or go dormant so when it warms up immediately after a chill they super throw out the pollen. Could it be allergeries you're experiencing? Could be a good, old fashioned sinus cleansing.
I must learn about this Herxheimer reaction you speak of. I found this page about the reaction:
http://www.falconblanco.com/health/crisis.htm
Be careful guys, i thought i was doing really well and handling it without any real problems.
I maybe got over confident. I got up to 10 drops, 3 times yesterday, and i was fine. Until now i hadden't felt sick at all. Some days my stomach would have a good clear out, but that's it.
Well this morning at about 10ish i went for 12 drops, and was violently sick for about 5 hours. I've also had constant doses of the shits all day too.
It's now 1am UK time and i'm still having shits and a churning stomach.
I think i'm at a crossroads as to whether i want to keep going with it.
I don't know if i want to put myself through another day like this again.
I'll see how i feel in the morning. Maybe i just need to take the weekend off.
Take care
Maybe a weekend break is a good thing for you. When you take it back up do you think backing down a bit to perhaps twice a day would help? You have given such glowing reports of MMS benefit in your life.
I also want to thank you for the wonderful links you have provided. I never knew Jim Humble did a Project Camelot interview!
macleodmunro
07-02-2009, 09:22 PM
I think i made the mistake of going for 3 times a day before i got up to 15 drops without nausea.
My body probably wasn't ready for that much at once.
The link i provided spells it out in peaceandlove's 2nd post.
He also provides a link to the website where he gets his info from.
loracat5
07-02-2009, 10:00 PM
I took 3:15 last night. 3:15 offers a stronger odor and taste. The taste seems sour to me and I may have to start using juice instead of water. I experienced a 'stitch' in the left side of stomach. Not painful at all, certainly noticeable. Gas? Gastric juices reacting with MMS solution? Gall bladder reaction? :confused: Also a few minutes after MMS ingestion I feel a sensation in the left kidney. Not pain nor discomfort. I wish I could describe it - something like a very minor flinching. But, of course, the kidney doesn't have the ability to 'flinch' so please excuse the inappropriate word.
Loracat5, I lived in Florida all my life until a year and a half ago - Hillsborough County, north of you. :) This time of year is typically windy, warm, chilly, pleasant. A dermatologist told me some years ago that during fall and spring the plants are confused because the weather flip flops so often and they don't know whether to bloom or go dormant so when it warms up immediately after a chill they super throw out the pollen. Could it be allergeries you're experiencing? Could be a good, old fashioned sinus cleansing.
I must learn about this Herxheimer reaction you speak of. I found this page about the reaction:
http://www.falconblanco.com/health/crisis.htm
I am not sure about the pollen idea but it just may be. The Herxheimer reaction will cause flu like symptoms . The link you provided has a wide range of possible reactions that cover almost everything people are complaining about.
I am not sure about the pollen idea but it just may be. The Herxheimer reaction will cause flu like symptoms . The link you provided has a wide range of possible reactions that cover almost everything people are complaining about.
I really appreciate you mentioning it so it would pique my curiosity and compel to learn of it. You're right, many have described such symptoms as mentioned in the link. The more we read and communicate with one another, the better off we shall be.
loracat5
07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
I think i made the mistake of going for 3 times a day before i got up to 15 drops without nausea.
My body probably wasn't ready for that much at once.
The link i provided spells it out in peaceandlove's 2nd post.
He also provides a link to the website where he gets his info from.
Scott said its two times a day generally but if you are very sick, you may have to take it three or more times a day for an extended period of time. He said that even at 15 drops a day three times a day it wont kill you .
He wants to stock up one it because when it becomes a burden to the FDA , they will put a stop to it. They want you sick and buying drugs, not healing your self.
thelucifer
08-02-2009, 03:42 AM
Im new to MMS but I do think people are going a little to fast and furious.
In all, its very similar to the Hydrogen Peroxide world (something I know a lot about), in protocols, detoxing etc.
The body can detox in same strange and harsh ways, the body doesn’t think about it, it just does it.
If reaching a level of discomfort back off a little and go a little slower but dont stop.
cruise4
08-02-2009, 07:47 AM
My stint at coming off it for a week has produced nothing, as expected but just thought I'd throw in a control. I'll now start again and gradually go up again. Be interesting if I'm sick again at any point.
My Brothers up to 20. Hasn't had any sickness or anything bar muscle easing.
Apple Juice looks like piss. Pineapple juice looks like alcoholics piss. Think I'll try red grape juice this time :D
I smoke and have done for years. I'm getting none of this throat/sinus stuff others are mentioning... if you feel able, could you mention anything like this that might relate to any MMS taking symptoms.
thelucifer
08-02-2009, 03:33 PM
Go to this site and read through it, it is a must read.
http://jimhumble.biz/
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-cancer.htm
One cannot begin to use the 6 and 6 technique with persons that are very sick. They must be treated very carefully. We usually start new cancer patients that are very sick on 1 drop doses. So we use 1 and 1. That is we do a single drop dose and then wait an hour and then do the second drop dose. We do this in the morning, at noon and at night. That makes for 6 drops during a day for a very sick person. Some people might start at 2 and 2. Again that would be 2 drops and wait an hour and then two more drops. This would be done in the morning, at noon, and then in the evening before bed.
Depending upon how sick the person is, that determines the number of drops to use in the starting doses. A person who is running around OK could be started at 6 and 6 drops doses.
However, no matter how many drops one starts with, if he does not notice any nausea the next day he should increase the number of drops by plus one. If the person started with 6 and 6 then the next day he would go to 7 and 7 three times during that day, and the day after it would be 8 an
Anytime one notices nausea, always drop back a drop or two for up to a day before increasing the drops again. That is the technique for using Clara's 6 and 6 drop doses one hour apart. They should be increased slowly, carefully one drop a day until you are at 15 and 15. It may take a while to get to this point as the cancer should be almost cured by this time. Often the patient will get nauseous and you will have to drop back.
thelucifer
08-02-2009, 03:43 PM
MMS Answers ———————– by Jim Humble
http://mmsadvisor.com/
thelucifer
08-02-2009, 03:52 PM
http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=8
My rule is, if it is making you sick, you are taking too much. I would drop back to one drop a dose. If he can take that without getting sick, wait 5 or 6 hours and then take two drops. If he feels sick, go back to one drop. Then go a second time with one drop and then try to increase again. Keep MMS going into him as much as possible by giving him up to 5 doses a day, but without making him sick. Five tiny doses is much better than one large dose. The pain in his stomach is undoubtebly something in there that needs to be killed. But do it slowly as to not make him sick.
patrish
08-02-2009, 08:13 PM
I was up to 7 drops when I got the winter vomiting bug - at first I thought it was the MMS, but it turned out that other memebers of the family not on MMS were suffering too.
I will start again next week, having had a week off
As a smoker I found I felt a lot better, less coughing and clearer lungs and felt less atticted to nicotine - probably smoked less. I have no intention of giving up smoking as I really like it.
I was a bit suprpised to catch a bug while taking the MMS but maybe you need to get up to the 15 drops twice a day before it kills everything. One good thing was I was only ill for 12 hours while others went 48/36. I have to say I would not wish it on my worst enemy...... Yes I agree with cruise4 no more apple or pinapple i need to find something else that will blot out the taste - perhaps prune juice?
much love
patrish xx
tortoise
08-02-2009, 08:13 PM
Hi, I am new to the site and this is my first post :)
I have just started taking MMS on the advice of a friend, I have been going for about a week now and am up to 8 drops, I have had no nausea or diarrhea, but have felt pretty tired.
I did a big detox after Christmas/ New Year so i don't know whether this has helped any with the lack of horrible symptoms.
I'l keep you al posted as to whether that changes!
Yesterday was my first full 3:15 day.
I noticed a tiny bit of change in my taste. I ate a brownie and the chocolate seemed stronger than usual and overall sickly sweet. I ate a brownie from the very same batch just a couple of days before and it did not seem that way then.
I felt warm thus grouchy yesterday. I was too fidgety and disinterested and difficult to satisfy like a fussy baby. When I fever I get that way. Otherwise, I felt fine, just warm and grouchy. After a single episode of diarrhea I was back to normal.
loracat5
08-02-2009, 11:21 PM
I quit… I skipped my drops this morning. I felt like I was having withdrawals symptoms and had become grouchy and irritable and even maintained a mild zombie state until this afternoon. The way I see it now is , I was healthy before MMS and up to nine drops without nausea or diarrhea so why torture my self if my only ailment is in my sinuses. My only addictions are nicotine and caffeine and I like both of them. Scott is up to his 15 drops and will keep it up because he is truly the most disciplined human being I know when it comes to his health…. My last dose was the nine drops last night and by morning, my stinging nose was gone and so was the head pressure but I believe that the MMS was killing something in my sinuses as well as depleting the levels of nicotine causing me to Jones …….I still have a Jonesy feeling…. I wonder if this stuff doesn’t bring up toxins from old experimental habits that we don’t speak of.
All I know is that I want to feel like me again. Some old habits are better off left alone. Some realities are better off painted. Like a crack with a sealant. Its holds……
cruise4
09-02-2009, 11:29 AM
Holding your nose helps with the taste.
"As a smoker I found I felt a lot better, less coughing and clearer lungs and felt less atticted to nicotine - probably smoked less. I have no intention of giving up smoking as I really like it."
Same here. I would also suggest craving, for want of a better word can be alleviated. Which, All, ?, I don't know.
alternative_answer
09-02-2009, 09:02 PM
I have been taking MMS for nearly 3 weeks, I'm taking 13/70 drops should I continue to increase the dose or should I stay at that dose for the foreseeable as a maintainance dose? Your thoughts.
I suppose you hold that answer, AA. I was intending to escalate to 15:75 per the instructions unless there is some unforeseen event but perhaps at this point in your regimen it's about how you feel. Do you think an increase would make you feel ill? Have no further beneficial effect? etc.
alternative_answer
09-02-2009, 09:28 PM
I suppose you hold that answer, AA. I was intending to escalate to 15:75 per the instructions unless there is some unforeseen event but perhaps at this point in your regimen it's about how you feel. Do you think an increase would make you feel ill? Have no further beneficial effect? etc.
mmm, interesting question coco! I'm really not sure, I guess I will continue then as have no reason not to, not getting to many adverse effects. Do you find that you can't tolerate monounsaturated fats, like sausages, bacon, burgers, also coffee and alcohol and that your body wants to expell them?
mmm, interesting question coco! I'm really not sure, I guess I will continue then as have no reason not to, not getting to many adverse effects. Do you find that you can't tolerate monounsaturated fats, like sausages, bacon, burgers, also coffee and alcohol and that your body wants to expell them?
Not really yet. I'm up to 4:20 at this point. I find that first thing in the morning I'm very hungry but I want FOOD - not junk - pastries, etc. After breakfast I'm pretty satiated the remainder of the day and eat again in the evening. I desire water much more. I'm sure juice would be fine but my body want's water so water it is. I had a home made hamburger a few nights ago and look out! Very gassy! Now that I think of it, a pork chop had the same effect.
In reference to alcohol, I have had a couple of cocktails during this past week but in following Life of Brian's advice, I don't drink or smoke for at least an hour after taking the solution so I take it right before bed and then first thing when I rise. I goto the bathroom much more after a mixed drink so I guess the MMS is working to rid the body of that.
I can't drink coffee anymore as it irritates a female issue I have had for some years. I will say this, I am nearing my next Depo injection and the fibrous cyst in my breast is not bothering as it normally would at this time frame.
Probably TMI for the gentlemen readers. :o
thelucifer
10-02-2009, 12:19 AM
O2xygen Therapies
Published 1988
Page 9
We found out that when you drink hydrogen peroxide it goes into your stomach and in 13 seconds it will be out at the end of your fingers……Hydrogen peroxide breaks up, but not until it comes in contact with virus and streptococcus.
Page 18
The Lancet….A February 12, 1983 article described how this free radical kills malaria. Another article in the February Lancet indicated that oxygen will destroy malaria.
Page 25
H2O2 Takes Electrons Away From Germs And Viruses, Killing Them
Fruton & Simmons’ “General Biochemistry” states that microorganisms themselves posses an electrical charge when suspended in an aqueous medium. Which means when you put them in liquid under a microscope and put two electrical plates in there they will all gravitate to the positive. This tells they are negatively charged or they contain electrons. Remember the oxygen in hydrogen peroxide is short an electron in it’s outer orbit. It will take electrons from whoever donates them.
Page 25
I pint of 3% peroxide contains 10 pints of oxygen dissolved into it, 35% contains 90 pints.
Jim says hydrogen peroxide has no available oxygen yet when pouring it on scrapes etc it bubbles, releasing oxygen, so Jim is wrong about that, which I do find curious.
Page 51
There is, in fact, a part of the cell called a peroxisome, whose job is to produce hydrogen peroxide in order to get rid of viruses and bacteria and other contaminating substances that might get into the cell. The peroxisome literally causes the bacteria to disintegrate, or, explode.
Hydrogen peroxide takes electrons from/exploding the object to be oxidized, turning into H2O/water whereas ClO2 turns into salt.
ClO2 can take 5 electrons, I’m not sure if h2o2 can take more than 1 (it is short 1) or not.
This post is to show how similar the H2O2 and ClO2 worlds are.
ClO2 draws electrons and so does H2O2.
ClO2 explodes pathogens, so does H2O2.
ClO2 turns into salt, H2O2 turns into water, we are 70% water, salt water, same composition as the sea and chlorine is the most abundant element in healthy human blood.
Both are most fitting, as is Stabilized Oxygen.
Keep in mind that all those who Jim cured of malaria at first were cured using Stabilized Oxygen.
There are 2 problems,
1. Not doing enough of a good thing
2. Doing too much of a good thing
Good alternative to MMS should it become unavailable.
arten
10-02-2009, 01:02 AM
Good alternative to MMS should it become unavailable.
It is available you just need to know where to buy it from I have been using it my water and tea for years.:D
loracat5
10-02-2009, 02:15 AM
I started again this afternoon at 6 drops. My co worker convinced me that my issues were all in my head. I decided that she is probably right. Besides, her son comes into work when he gets out of school. I noticed that he had the sniffles today and figure that maybe, I had caught a bug and if so, infection never took hold because everything was clear so I over reacted and mms was doing its thing. As far as the “"jonesing”” goes, it must be the nicotine because I have not touched anything else since I was 27 . There should be nothing in my system to caused that reaction. Good luck to all of you…
alternative_answer
10-02-2009, 10:22 AM
I started again this afternoon at 6 drops. My co worker convinced me that my issues were all in my head. I decided that she is probably right. Besides, her son comes into work when he gets out of school. I noticed that he had the sniffles today and figure that maybe, I had caught a bug and if so, infection never took hold because everything was clear so I over reacted and mms was doing its thing. As far as the “"jonesing”” goes, it must be the nicotine because I have not touched anything else since I was 27 . There should be nothing in my system to caused that reaction. Good luck to all of you…
You keep going friend, change can be scary, but the benefits in the long term far out weigh it.
tortoise
10-02-2009, 11:06 AM
wel, im up to 11 drops this morning and so far so good, still not had any of the unpleasant symptoms others have discribed.
I still feel pretty tired all the timethough, i havebeen getting a good 10 hours sleep a night, but i am still shattered when i wake up, well if this is the only symptom i get ill consider myself lucky!
tesla
10-02-2009, 11:22 AM
I can see how this works.
Gonna research it more, then give it a go...
thelucifer
10-02-2009, 01:38 PM
I had heard a news report on the radio a few years ago that a urine sample taken from Lance Armstrong (bicyclist) back in 1998 was tested (looking for banned drugs) and they found a drug that increases oxygen in the blood.
I made mention of this in another thread/post in regards to stamina and that Lance beat cancer and out raced everyone, another poster said the drug is EPO and that it increases the bloods red cell count.
Makes perfect sense.
Seems to me that EPO is the perfect partner with ClO2 since the red blood cell carries the chlorine dioxide.
Keep in mind the bloods red cell count increases during fever and that viruses cant reproduce when the bodies temperature is above 101 degrees.
So the body goes into fever, stopping the virus from reproducing, and increases the bloods red cell count to kill the virus.
I can see how this works.
Gonna research it more, then give it a go...
That's what I did for about a week. I read what the stuff really was, how it worked, and sought out comments both pro and con.
I had heard a news report on the radio a few years ago that a urine sample taken from Lance Armstrong (bicyclist) back in 1998 was tested (looking for banned drugs) and they found a drug that increases oxygen in the blood.
I made mention of this in another thread/post in regards to stamina and that Lance beat cancer and out raced everyone, another poster said the drug is EPO and that it increases the bloods red cell count.
Makes perfect sense.
Seems to me that EPO is the perfect partner with ClO2 since the red blood cell carries the chlorine dioxide.
Keep in mind the bloods red cell count increases during fever and that viruses cant reproduce when the bodies temperature is above 101 degrees.
So the body goes into fever, stopping the virus from reproducing, and increases the bloods red cell count to kill the virus.
EPO - Evening Primrose Oil?
thelucifer
10-02-2009, 07:16 PM
That's what I did for about a week. I read what the stuff really was, how it worked, and sought out comments both pro and con.
EPO - Evening Primrose Oil?
Erythropoietin, or its alternative erythropoetin (pronounced /ɨˌɹɪθɹoʊˈpɔɪɨtɨn/, /ɨˌɹɪθɹoʊˈpɔɪtən/, or /ɨˌɹiːθɹoʊ-/) or EPO, is a glycoprotein hormone that controls erythropoiesis, or red blood cell production.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietin
Thanks, thelucifer! You're making me refresh my anatomy lessons! Ha! Ha!
pure_energy
11-02-2009, 10:32 AM
Has anyone found a way to buy NaClO2 28% on its own without have to buy from the MMS internet shops? Not being funny but I want to give to my mom and my brother in law and even to some friends but I dont want to pay £20ish for each one of them. Maybe if I could buy a litre of it in bulk it would be way better.
arten
11-02-2009, 01:35 PM
Can someone point me to the post that is maybe not on this thread but is related to the subject of Oxygen therapy in general. Someone was talking about how Metabolism may be responsible for cell death and intimated that the element Nitrogen was somehow involved. I was intrigued by this because it is info I have come across before I want to have another look at what was written but cannot find the post and the search button is of no help. :(
pure_energy
12-02-2009, 09:12 AM
*************Please be aware***********
Just to let you guys know, be careful not to spill MMS in your clothes as it acts like bleach. I just ruined a very nice jacket because the glass was going to fall, I tried to catch it and was MMS everywhere. Now my black jacket looks like a zebra.
tothestars
12-02-2009, 12:15 PM
I would rather use zapper than this MMS. MMS could also kill red blood cells right?
simplify
12-02-2009, 07:18 PM
Has anyone found a way to buy NaClO2 28% on its own without have to buy from the MMS internet shops? Not being funny but I want to give to my mom and my brother in law and even to some friends but I dont want to pay £20ish for each one of them. Maybe if I could buy a litre of it in bulk it would be way better.
If you buy the book by Jim Humble. It tells you in there how to make your own from scratch.
pure_energy
12-02-2009, 09:44 PM
I would rather use zapper than this MMS. MMS could also kill red blood cells right?
Where did you see that? from what I know if goes along the red cells and they transport the mms through the body but the mms does not destroy anything apart from non-aerobics cells and with a Ph lower than normal.
thelucifer
12-02-2009, 10:54 PM
MMS could also kill red blood cells right?
No.
If you buy the book by Jim Humble. It tells you in there how to make your own from scratch.
I need to stop being so cheap and buy that! From what I've heard in this forum as well as the MMS Forum MacleodMunroe suggested it's filled with good information.
alternative_answer
14-02-2009, 12:31 PM
After just over 3 weeks I have decided to stop increasing my dose, I am on 16 mms and 80 C A at night time only. No adverse effects on this level. Is this the correct dose for maintainance or should it be lower. Can someone tell me how to mix the crystals to make the mms please.
pure_energy
14-02-2009, 05:31 PM
I need to stop being so cheap and buy that! From what I've heard in this forum as well as the MMS Forum MacleodMunroe suggested it's filled with good information.
me too. If I really want to believe in this I have to learn as much as I can.
The funny thing for me is that I am from Brazil and there you can buy for example H2O2 from ANY drug store ( in various concentrates ).. when my mom learnt that I was taking MMS and I said how similar it was to H2O2 she said that her dentist said back in the 70`s to brush her teeth with it once a day to kill all bacteria in her mouth.
Also you can go to several "chemical stores" where you can buy things like bleach, Cl ( to clear you swimming pool ) and any other chemical ( as long as is not illegal like to make a bomb or refine cocaine :) ). So I am sure if go back there and say "can I have NaClO2 at 28%" they will sort me out, but I cant find anything like that in UK.
me too. If I really want to believe in this I have to learn as much as I can.
The funny thing for me is that I am from Brazil and there you can buy for example H2O2 from ANY drug store ( in various concentrates ).. when my mom learnt that I was taking MMS and I said how similar it was to H2O2 she said that her dentist said back in the 70`s to brush her teeth with it once a day to kill all bacteria in her mouth.
Also you can go to several "chemical stores" where you can buy things like bleach, Cl ( to clear you swimming pool ) and any other chemical ( as long as is not illegal like to make a bomb or refine cocaine :) ). So I am sure if go back there and say "can I have NaClO2 at 28%" they will sort me out, but I cant find anything like that in UK.
I find it fascinating that Brazilian dentists back in the 70's recommended that! Not in the US. Prepared mouthwashes were and still are recommended; Listerine, for example.
I marvel listening to people tell stories of medicine in their countries and am always surprised at how different medical approaches can be from the US's.
There is an American doctor working in Mexico who gains enjoyment in his work and freedom from the AMA (American Medical Association - an association of medical professionals who set the standards of medical ethics, treatment approach, and medical education). I saw a few videos of him speaking. He speaks very candidly. I should find those videos for you.
Tell ya what - I've just looked into this thread's history and the videos I posted are no longer there. I will PM you.
macleodmunro
16-02-2009, 11:13 PM
After just over 3 weeks I have decided to stop increasing my dose, I am on 16 mms and 80 C A at night time only. No adverse effects on this level. Is this the correct dose for maintainance or should it be lower. Can someone tell me how to mix the crystals to make the mms please.
I have been lead to believe that if you're of average health then all you need for a maintainance dose is 6 drops twice a week.
To mix the citric acid crystals, it should be 10% crystals to 90% water.
I used a medicine spoon. Just remember to make it a level spoonfull of crystals.
Also try to get your water as pure as possible. I filtered and boiled mine first.
Peace from Paul
I got stuck at 4:20 for some reason. Very painful intestinal gas that would not release. Got to the point I took a break for a day. Felt better and started back on 3:15 in the morning and 4:20 that evening. I am now back on track and doing 5:25.
I know I have been taking it slowly but I have been listening to my body. Also, if I become too ill to work then I lose a day's pay and suffer my elderly parent's exaggerated inquisitions. I do not relish either.
Otherwise, I have been doing well on MMS. Shoulders, elbows, wrists and right knee feel better - much, much less sore and achy. My skin has cleared as well. I have always had issue with heat rash and blemishes. Only one brief bout of diarrhea but having many more movements throughout the day than before.
And when no one is opening and closing doors at night or the freezer thermostat alarm is not sounding in the wee hours, I sleep much better than before. ;)
My chest is considerably clearer and I am not expelled phlegm as I was - remember my mentioning that since bronchitis in December I have been coughing up phlegm? Very, very little in fact!
I am very pleased with the results and am grateful I found this thread.
alternative_answer
17-02-2009, 02:22 PM
I have been lead to believe that if you're of average health then all you need for a maintainance dose is 6 drops twice a week.
To mix the citric acid crystals, it should be 10% crystals to 90% water.
I used a medicine spoon. Just remember to make it a level spoonfull of crystals.
Also try to get your water as pure as possible. I filtered and boiled mine first.
Peace from Paul
If I've been taking 16/80 drops for 3 weeks should I reduce down now to a maintainance dose now?
thelucifer
17-02-2009, 04:44 PM
If I've been taking 16/80 drops for 3 weeks should I reduce down now to a maintainance dose now?
Did you have a health issue before starting the MMS ?
If not a maintenance protocol is fine.
If I understand right, you are taking 16 drops once a day (at night).
The full protocols are 15 drops (even up to 25 drops for serious issues) 3 times a day or 15 drops 4 times a day (2 times in the morning [an hour apart] and 2 times at night [an hour apart]), staying at 15 drops for a week and if you have no nausea increasing to 3 double doses of 15 drops per day for a week (or more).
The protocol you have been doing (once a day) is a very light one.
alternative_answer
17-02-2009, 10:39 PM
Did you have a health issue before starting the MMS ?
If not a maintenance protocol is fine.
If I understand right, you are taking 16 drops once a day (at night).
The full protocols are 15 drops (even up to 25 drops for serious issues) 3 times a day or 15 drops 4 times a day (2 times in the morning [an hour apart] and 2 times at night [an hour apart]), staying at 15 drops for a week and if you have no nausea increasing to 3 double doses of 15 drops per day for a week (or more).
The protocol you have been doing (once a day) is a very light one.
Thanks for that. No major health issues thank god. I think I will go to 16/80 twice a day now and see how I go, and go up from there should I have no adverse effects.
alternative_answer
18-02-2009, 11:43 AM
Am I right in thinking that I can simply use lemon juice to activate the mms rather than having to make up the crystals or buy more citric acid? Can the lemon juice be from the bottles you buy in a corporation market!!??
alternative_answer
18-02-2009, 04:34 PM
Thanks for that. No major health issues thank god. I think I will go to 16/80 twice a day now and see how I go, and go up from there should I have no adverse effects.
Now I know why I haven't been taking a morning dose, made me Ill this morning, gonna just do maintainence dose 6/30 twice a week from now.
Am I right in thinking that I can simply use lemon juice to activate the mms rather than having to make up the crystals or buy more citric acid? Can the lemon juice be from the bottles you buy in a corporation market!!??
Dear AA,
Please read Peaceandlove's SECOND posting. Here he/she copies the instructions for mixing MMS and the activators that are appropriate. :)
http://www.projectavalon.org/forum/showthread.php?7&t=4781&page=2
thelucifer
18-02-2009, 05:31 PM
Now I know why I haven't been taking a morning dose, made me Ill this morning, gonna just do maintainence dose 6/30 twice a week from now.
Im guessing you felt ill because its the first time taking a morning dose, especially doing 16 drops the first time.
If you try a morning dose again start with 3 drops and if no nausea increase a drop the next day etc up to 15 eventually.
If someone feels ill it is probably because there is an issue/bug being dealt with.
Jim says to increase as much as possible without nausea up to the full protocols.
I agree.
alternative_answer
18-02-2009, 07:33 PM
Im guessing you felt ill because its the first time taking a morning dose, especially doing 16 drops the first time.
If you try a morning dose again start with 3 drops and if no nausea increase a drop the next day etc up to 15 eventually.
If someone feels ill it is probably because there is an issue/bug being dealt with.
Jim says to increase as much as possible without nausea up to the full protocols.
I agree.
Can you remind me of the full protocols please?
simplify
18-02-2009, 07:46 PM
Can you remind me of the full protocols please?
AA: I have been following the projectavalon thread on MMS. Someone tried the bottled lemon juice and it was horrible. Please use fresh lemon, it tastes better, and its a live juice. The bottled stuff is dead juice & who knows what else is in it. You can also use lime juice, or apple juice. Jim Humble indicates "fresh" juice is best.:)
Can you remind me of the full protocols please?
Dear AA,
Please read Peaceandlove's SECOND posting. Here he/she copies the instructions for mixing MMS and the activators that are appropriate. :)
http://www.projectavalon.org/forum/showthread.php?7&t=4781&page=2
Please read peaceandlove's second post on the page inked above and it will provide the guide for mixing, and daily dosages. :)
When following the instructions below, keep this paragraph in mind. Always activate the MMS drops with one of the food acids, either lemon juice drops, or lime juice drops, or citric acid solution drops (to make citric acid solution add 1 level tablespoon of citric acid and 9 tablespoons of water. Store it in a bottle with a lid.) (Drip spout bottles provided with activator 'citric acid' when ordered from website below.) Always use 5 drops of one of these food acids to each one drop of MMS, mix (swirl) in an empty dry glass and wait at least 3 minutes, then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. (You can expand the 3 minutes out to 10 minutes, and after adding the juice or water you can wait up to an hour before drinking.)
Step 1.All protocol for taking MMS in the Americas starts with one or two drops. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with drop. Activate the drops as given above.*
Step 2. If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous. *
Note: If you notice diarrhea, or even vomiting that is not a bad sign. The body is simply throwing off poisons and cleaning itself out. Everyone says that they feel much better after the diarrhea. You do not have to take any medicine for the diarrhea. It will go away as fast as it came. It will not last. It is not real diarrhea as the body is just cleaning out, and it is not caused by bacteria or virus. When the poison is gone, the diarrhea is gone.
Step 3. Continue to follow the procedure given in Step 2 above. Until you reach 15 drops twice a day without nausea. At that point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.*
Note: Once you have completed Step 3 above most of the viral, bacteria, mold, and yeast load will be gone from your body. Your body will be clean. You no longer have to worry about feeding the microorganism load. You can base you diet on nutrition, rather than not feeding the load.
The diabetes will be gone, thus you no longer need to worry about sugar. You won't have to worry about the pancreas over reacting thus giving you a shock of insulin. Instead it will give you just enough insulin to knock the blood sugar lever to the right level (You won't feel sleepy after eating a candy bar).
Your body will then be able to easily adsorb vitamins and minerals and many other nutrients it might have been missing up to this time. You should feel better as time goes by. Do not quit taking the MMS. The Health solution Will Not Be Televised! Start modestly with as little as 1 drop of MMS on your first day, and then increase the number on each following day, up to the maximum of 15. ONLY THE MOST ACUTE TOXIC OVERLOAD SITUATIONS WILL WARRANT THIS AMOUNT OF APPLICATION.
Your body WILL tell you when you've reached the optimum dosage for you. Clearing will not be comfortable, but it need not be intolerable. You may feel like you've been through a battle, and in a sense, you have. It's a battle for domain over your health, and hence, your life. Before you can be healthy again, you need to destroy toxins, pathogens, and parasites. In order to do so, they have to be uprooted and released from their strongholds in your body tissue. You will feel the effects, but is a good thing. You will also feel health, again. The sick feeling will be TEMPORARY, a small price to pay for the longer term possibility of lasting restored health, no matter what stage of life you happen to be currently experiencing.
When the clearing is done, you won't need to take the maximum dosages. You can go on a maintenance application (six (6) drops of MMS) to keep your insides pathogen free and immune system strong.
A few more words about fruit juices. They can be substituted for water as long as they are freshly made. Do not buy them off the shelf and use them, and DO NOT use orange juice. Orange juice prevents the production of chlorine dioxide, as well as anything that has vitamin C added as a preservative.
alternative_answer
18-02-2009, 09:27 PM
Thanks for all you help and input guys, very much appreciated. x ;)
hey guys I've just mixed up a bunch of 100ml bottles and when I mix them, I can only smell the chlorine if I put my nose into the glass whereas before, half he room would be stinking of chlorine!
Have I wasted this valuble sodium chlorite and made a botched batch? These are my measurments...
100ml bottles
-35g sodium chlorite + 90g water
- 10g citric acid + 90g water
arten
19-02-2009, 02:06 PM
Why can't you take this stuff like people take hp with water or even beer?
thelucifer
19-02-2009, 03:10 PM
yes used for a long time . cant say for sure what effect it had but it wasnt a negative one at least . :D
2013 how are you doing these days ?
When you had mentioned MMS in another thread some months back I had no understanding about it, I do now.
Im curious how much you did, how often, for how long etc.
With painful intestinal gas a thing of the past I now have jumped up to 7:35.
I can't stay out of the bathroom. I feel fine otherwise. Relieved, actually.
ARTEN: I mix the MMS solution (MMS & citric acid) with about a quarter of a glass of water. A bit sour but nothing I can't deal with. At first, when I began using higher strengths of MMS solution, I thought there would be no way I could tolerate the taste without juice but I've become used to it.
I don't care for beer so perhaps someone else could offer an answer to that part of your question. I personally don't think it would be wise to drink with alcohol but I am not an expert either.
onourwayto2012
20-02-2009, 05:22 AM
So I purchased some but I am also a rather "dedicated" beeraholic... as in mid to late afternoon till ?? So mornings ok but can I do this in the evening as well....I'm hoping this will help me reduce this consumption....dramatically if possible... and dietary issues as well....am suffering from split up with wife syndrome.
arten
20-02-2009, 12:42 PM
So I purchased some but I am also a rather "dedicated" beeraholic... as in mid to late afternoon till ?? So mornings ok but can I do this in the evening as well....I'm hoping this will help me reduce this consumption....dramatically if possible... and dietary issues as well....am suffering from split up with wife syndrome.
LOL me to and what a tonic it all is :D
eyepod
20-02-2009, 12:50 PM
-35g sodium chlorite + 90g water
Where are you getting the sodium chlorite from?
I hope it is of food grade standard for your own sake because if it's not graded at that level of purity, the chemical manufacturing standards are way less stringent and you could well be consuming heavy metals and all sorts of other chemical nasties with your "cure".
eyepod
21-02-2009, 09:50 PM
Well it's your own bodies, do what you like to them. You might want to neck some flouride and mercury while your at it - the dentists and governments swear by it. They love people forking out there own money to euthanise themselves, saves them a fortune.
http://www.bioquell.co.uk/News.asp?Ctrl=2&id=65
Chlorine dioxide is a carcinogen and genotoxin, which is a chemical that damages cellular DNA resulting in mutations or cancer. When broken down by light and water, chlorine dioxide forms toxic chlorine gas and highly corrosive hydrochloric acid, respectively. Chlorine dioxide is roughly ten times as toxic as hydrogen peroxide
cruise4
22-02-2009, 01:25 AM
I'm having a right job trying to source sodium chlorite powder in the UK. Can anyone help?
patrish
22-02-2009, 09:58 AM
So far I've found
Monarch Chemicals in Kent
http://www.monarchchemicals.co.uk/products.html
I cant find how you order it..............
This link offers kits to make your own MMS and instructions
http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/
Patrish xx
cruise4
22-02-2009, 10:16 AM
Cheers patrish.
For information:
Shipping 10 lb’s of 80% Sodium Chlorite to the U.K. will be $133.00 USD
Shipping 5 lb’s of 80% Sodium Chlorite to the U.K. will be $ 75.00 USD
from here: http://www.miraclemineralsupplement.ca/
Made my eyes water, those shipping charges!
patrish
22-02-2009, 02:22 PM
Perhaps we could become a co-operative and share the costs.
I for one would be in
patrish
cruise4
23-02-2009, 01:47 AM
I've emailed a few companies and sites and should hear back in the next few days. If I pin something down I'll post, but yes, I'm up for sharing and all that too.
My brother is nearing the end of of two week stint on 20 twice a day now. He's had the odd moment of feeling a bit sick but that's all.
pedsi
26-02-2009, 10:25 PM
Been brushin my teeth now for just over a week with the 10:50 solution in water,really happy with the results,my mouth and teeth feel a lot cleaner and my gums look healthier than ever->:D
thelucifer
27-02-2009, 06:42 AM
Bathing in MMS Tub Water
http://mms-articles.com/mms-water-bath.htm
glacidtek
27-02-2009, 03:50 PM
does anyone know of first hand experience using MMS to treat HIV?
i'v looked at the website, but theres no real answer - was hoping someone on here might know?
cheers.
this thread has me very interested and especially making it for myself.
has anyone ordered from this atom chap who's selling the kits to make your own batch which will last for years?
http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/
this thread has me very interested and especially making it for myself.
has anyone ordered from this atom chap who's selling the kits to make your own batch which will last for years?
http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/
yes i did lupa lol he's very quick in dispatching mms, i received mine this morning, now i know he's realiable i shall send him a gift for a few more kits so i can pass it on.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/amberlane35/mms.jpg
how is everyone doing..are you all still taking mms?
Lupa, thank you for this information!
Lupa, thank you for this information!
anytime coco. he's an honest chap too, gave me lots of info on mms and his number to call anytime if i need help.
going to order a couple more kits from him so i have enough for anyone that needs it.
i started on two drops yesterday..felt it working pretty much straight away..it was a nice feeling actually. i then took a very hot bath with 30 drops of mms and all i can say is wow! i dried myself lit some insence and took my night time dose 2 drops again..
no problems..in fact, i felt reborn was like a bapitism in a way i felt really pure after the bath. slept so well, dreamt lovely dreams, woke up this morning so refreshed and felt great all day. still feel really clean now..hard to discribe but i feel like i have a new body.
my mum has tried it too. she woke up in the morning saying look at my face can you see a difference?? she looked healthier aswell ..the wrinkles around her eyes had smoothed out quite alot.
really looking forward to my next dose
lostinstrangeworld
05-03-2009, 01:39 PM
Great stuff, I think I'm going to order one of those kits after paying me bills, etc......
Love your avatar, Lupa :)
Great stuff, I think I'm going to order one of those kits after paying me bills, etc......
Love your avatar, Lupa :)
thank you :)
it's a scaled gecko ..i think :confused: dont quote me on that.
the kit is deffo worth the investment, you get bloody tons of powder. going to buy some dropper bottles of ebay, mix up a few bottles and pass the healing around ..spread some love man spread some love lol
macleodmunro
06-03-2009, 02:14 AM
does anyone know of first hand experience using MMS to treat HIV?
i'v looked at the website, but theres no real answer - was hoping someone on here might know?
cheers.
When project camelot interviewed Jim Humble he mentioned hiv & aids, but all he really said was that they've had a lot of luck with that.
Make of that what you want.
2013 how are you doing these days ?
When you had mentioned MMS in another thread some months back I had no understanding about it, I do now.
Im curious how much you did, how often, for how long etc.
Hi sorry took so long replying not checked this thread for a while . I was doing about 24 drops each day eventually worked up to it from around 6 drops adding a few more each day . Most days it was fine if i felt a stomach twitch i would stay on the same dose for the next day . Ididnt really get any nausea or bad stomach or rushing the toilet though . Cant say i noticed any real change in energy levels , i took it for several months , but i was doing a few other remedies at the same time so hard to judge really .Like i said before it did me no harm that i could discern , but for the last 3 years now it has been an ongoing process .Apart from that im doing ok thanks for asking . :D
thelucifer
08-03-2009, 02:29 AM
Hi sorry took so long replying not checked this thread for a while . I was doing about 24 drops each day eventually worked up to it from around 6 drops adding a few more each day . Most days it was fine if i felt a stomach twitch i would stay on the same dose for the next day . Ididnt really get any nausea or bad stomach or rushing the toilet though . Cant say i noticed any real change in energy levels , i took it for several months , but i was doing a few other remedies at the same time so hard to judge really .Like i said before it did me no harm that i could discern , but for the last 3 years now it has been an ongoing process .Apart from that im doing ok thanks for asking . :D
24 drops a day is a fairly light protocol.
The full protocols are 15 drops (even up to 25 drops for serious issues) 3 times a day or 15 drops 4 times a day (2 times in the morning [an hour apart] and 2 times at night [an hour apart]), staying at 15 drops for a week and if you have no nausea increasing to 3 double doses of 15 drops per day for a week (or more).
The full protocols are 45 up to 75 drops per day and 90 drops per day.
Thats a lot of counting :eek:
thelucifer
08-03-2009, 02:41 AM
Here's a million dollar idea, a machine (like a soda fountain), put the glass under the mms spout and select the number of drops, and then put the glass under the citric solution spout and select number of drops.
With a built in timer, heck, two timers for making two batches, one for drinking and another for brushing/spraying etc. :D
Here's a million dollar idea, a machine (like a soda fountain), put the glass under the mms spout and select the number of drops, and then put the glass under the citric solution spout and select number of drops.
With a built in timer, heck, two timers for making two batches, one for drinking and another for brushing/spraying etc. :D
i'd buy that for a dollor lol
merchiron
08-03-2009, 05:10 PM
I have had M.E. for about 12 years now and have just about tried everything to improve my condition. Nothing has ever worked. I started trying MMS about three/four weeks ago. I started off very, very cautiously, and only slowly increased the dosage. I used pineapple juice with the mixture and it's fine - can't taste the MMS mixture although the initial smell whilst mixing is awful. I eventually got up to 15 drops. However, at around 12 I did get bad indigestion at night. At about 15 drops I did have one day where I did have to visit the bathroom a few times. I was worried because I did not want to aggravate the M.E. so I simply stopped for a week and then I started taking about 6 drops, and am working my way up again. I am almost scared to say that I am actually feeling better now than I have felt in years. I would not say I am fully recovered but I am sticking with it. I have on two occasions emailed Jim and he has always replied. I am waiting for a reply to my latest email asking about the dosages. My MMS cost £40 off the Internet and should last about nine months. I will keep everyone posted. I think people have to be patient with MMS and not hurry to increase in the dosage in order to get a quick fix. Also, everyone's body will react differently.
jolinemaria
08-03-2009, 05:57 PM
does anyone know of first hand experience using MMS to treat HIV?
i'v looked at the website, but theres no real answer - was hoping someone on here might know?
cheers.
http://mmsadvisor.com/?s=hiv&x=0&y=0
Here are many hiv related answers.
24 drops a day is a fairly light protocol.
The full protocols are 15 drops (even up to 25 drops for serious issues) 3 times a day or 15 drops 4 times a day (2 times in the morning [an hour apart] and 2 times at night [an hour apart]), staying at 15 drops for a week and if you have no nausea increasing to 3 double doses of 15 drops per day for a week (or more).
The full protocols are 45 up to 75 drops per day and 90 drops per day.
Thats a lot of counting :eek:
sorry i meant to say twice a day ! mixed with apple juice :D
I have had M.E. for about 12 years now and have just about tried everything to improve my condition. Nothing has ever worked. I started trying MMS about three/four weeks ago. I started off very, very cautiously, and only slowly increased the dosage. I used pineapple juice with the mixture and it's fine - can't taste the MMS mixture although the initial smell whilst mixing is awful. I eventually got up to 15 drops. However, at around 12 I did get bad indigestion at night. At about 15 drops I did have one day where I did have to visit the bathroom a few times. I was worried because I did not want to aggravate the M.E. so I simply stopped for a week and then I started taking about 6 drops, and am working my way up again. I am almost scared to say that I am actually feeling better now than I have felt in years. I would not say I am fully recovered but I am sticking with it. I have on two occasions emailed Jim and he has always replied. I am waiting for a reply to my latest email asking about the dosages. My MMS cost £40 off the Internet and should last about nine months. I will keep everyone posted. I think people have to be patient with MMS and not hurry to increase in the dosage in order to get a quick fix. Also, everyone's body will react differently.
Sage advice. I am glad you are feeling better and I completely understand your caution. When I was having female difficulties years ago I was given medication and that took about a month to take effect, when I finally started having good days I was scared of them! Scared that the badness would resume and that I was only being teased by the gods. I hope you continue to feel better!!
Here's a million dollar idea, a machine (like a soda fountain), put the glass under the mms spout and select the number of drops, and then put the glass under the citric solution spout and select number of drops.
With a built in timer, heck, two timers for making two batches, one for drinking and another for brushing/spraying etc. :D
Genius! Genius is always found in the simple.
Here's an off topic idea: Heated mice. y'know in the winter your hands get cold easily and wouldn't a heated mouse be great? Lol!
cruise4
10-03-2009, 04:46 PM
Just when you think great, keep the body alkaline, and you read a report about Morgellons and how the fibres like an alkaline environment. :eek:
does anyone know of first hand experience using MMS to treat HIV?
i'v looked at the website, but theres no real answer - was hoping someone on here might know?
cheers.
jim has written about mms used with iv. i'll copy what he's written in his book and post later.
up to 12 drops now and still feel great. i did have bad tummy cramps at 11 drops but that was due to having a coffee ..i don't drink coffee, every time i do i have cramps. so all is well. i actually feel fantastic tbh
edit here you go glacidtek hope that helps a little
In the case of AIDS, when the MMS is injected as an IV solution into the blood, it is carried in the blood plasma throughout the body while generating chlorine dioxide that is no doubt absorbed into the red blood cells. In a series of 390 AIDS cases treated by IV in a small clinic in Kampala Uganda over an eight month period beginning March 2004, 60% of the cases were considered free of AIDS in three days. The remaining 40% were judged free of AIDS in four to 30 days. Most of the AIDS victims treated were those that were sent home from the hospital to die as the hospital could do nothing for them. Unfortunately AIDS blood tests could not be made as the money and facilities were not available, however, all victims were known AIDS victims and the majority went back to work or to their lives with no AIDS symptoms left. Only two cases out of 390 were considered to have failed. Those few that were reviewed later, from one week to a couple of months were still symptom free.
glacidtek
13-03-2009, 01:53 PM
Hi lupa -
thanks for the info - I'm not sure what to make of this realy.... there is a big diffrence between hiv+ and aids, so I'm not too sure of MMS affect on hiv alone.....
also i'd love my friend to be completely healthy, not sure if this would help... or how to go about finding out... or what he would do with his current medication?
its all so confusing.
x
Hi lupa -
thanks for the info - I'm not sure what to make of this realy.... there is a big diffrence between hiv+ and aids, so I'm not too sure of MMS affect on hiv alone.....
also i'd love my friend to be completely healthy, not sure if this would help... or how to go about finding out... or what he would do with his current medication?
its all so confusing.
x
nods
ive grown up believing hiv and aids were the same and that you die from them full stop. but after reading about the drugs used to treat hiv and various other articles im not so sure now. big pharma are mutha fuckas anyway and i wouldnt believe them at all now. you best bet would be to mail jim humble personally and ask for his protocals for treating hiv i'm pretty sure he would use the IV method for hiv and for aids he uses that protocol i believe for lymes and morgellons and you really have nothing to lose with mms as it cannot kill you.
http://mmsadvisor.com/
http://jimhumble.biz/?page_id=14
http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=78
glacidtek
13-03-2009, 02:45 PM
cheers lupa -
its kindof awkward as my friend believes his medication is all that is keeping him healthy - he is realy resistant to the idea that it is his medication that will eventualy make him properly ill.....
he also doesnt believe there could be a simpletr way of treating hiv, other than big pharma co. drugs.
arrrrggg... I feel so helpless.
x
thelucifer
13-03-2009, 05:26 PM
cheers lupa -
its kindof awkward as my friend believes his medication is all that is keeping him healthy - he is realy resistant to the idea that it is his medication that will eventualy make him properly ill.....
he also doesnt believe there could be a simpletr way of treating hiv, other than big pharma co. drugs.
arrrrggg... I feel so helpless.
x
How well (if at all) do you and your friend understand pathogens and oxidation ?
Its very simple and powerful stuff to understand.
queenofleon
13-03-2009, 07:08 PM
Mine arrived today! My mate has already used it and got shot of an ongoing sinus problem he has had forever. Mt b/f currently has the worse toothe absess and has been screaming in pain so this couldnt have arrived at a better time.
I let you all know how it works!!
Mine arrived today! My mate has already used it and got shot of an ongoing sinus problem he has had forever. Mt b/f currently has the worse toothe absess and has been screaming in pain so this couldnt have arrived at a better time.
I let you all know how it works!!
I hope it helps your friend with the absess. I just found out my father has a tooth infection. He came home with a bottle of veterinarian grade pencillin. He is an ex army medic and knows how to pull meds and inject correctly.
He goes to the feed store for antibiotics from time to time as he does not like visiting a doctor. He doesn't like scheduling, then waiting an undeterminate amount of time to be seen. He also feels the cost of a visit and the price of the meds are outrageous. The latter, I think, we can all agree on.
Good luck to you and your friends. Keep us posted!
pure_energy
15-03-2009, 08:57 PM
Hey queen, I completely forgot to help you with the MMS stuff... been so busy with wife and the old story... regarding MMS for abscess you have to use normally ( use the normal protocol ) and also you mix 10 drops of MMS with 50 of citric acid and brush your teeth with it. It did work for me until yesterday when I had my operation to remove my 2 lower wisdom tooth ( now I have no tooth to cause me pain ).
My concern is that is not working at all for my son. He is 2 years old and I read that the protocol is start with 0.5 and go 1/2 drop up until 3 drops ( he is about 15kg in weight ) and then continue 3 drops 3 times a day... he is going strong on his 4º day of 3 drops but his sore throat is full of pus and still fever... why???:(:(
nirvana
16-03-2009, 04:38 PM
Whats the best uk site to buy MMS .I also need a place you don not have to buy online so I can send Postal order.
Peace:)
Whats the best uk site to buy MMS .I also need a place you don not have to buy online so I can send Postal order.
Peace:)
http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/
thats where i got mine and lots of it too ..make your own :)
there is a link on the page somewhere to mail him about sending postal orders or checks.
upto 14 drops now and feel great..having some really lucid dreaming meditative expiriences too.. really nice feeling
I take a hormonal medication every three months. During the third month I usually become very tired, my lower back aches, pelvic cramping, headaches, facial blemishes, and a fibrous cyst in my breast becomes inflamed and very sore. I also experience melancholy and my appetite increases. Oh and the hot flashes.
My next dose of medication is this Friday, the 20th. I had been supplementing with prenatal vitamins for a few years and the symptoms described were reduced somewhat. I was happy about that.
Since taking MMS I can tell you that my lower back has not bothered me, I've only had two minor bouts of pelvic discomfort, no headaches, little melancholy, no blemish breakouts, little tiredness during the day, better sleep, and the fibrous cyst has not acted up at all. No hot flashes but I did have a warm flash a few days ago.
I was waiting for this time period to see how or if at all MMS would affect. I am pleased with the result.
Hey queen, I completely forgot to help you with the MMS stuff... been so busy with wife and the old story... regarding MMS for abscess you have to use normally ( use the normal protocol ) and also you mix 10 drops of MMS with 50 of citric acid and brush your teeth with it. It did work for me until yesterday when I had my operation to remove my 2 lower wisdom tooth ( now I have no tooth to cause me pain ).
My concern is that is not working at all for my son. He is 2 years old and I read that the protocol is start with 0.5 and go 1/2 drop up until 3 drops ( he is about 15kg in weight ) and then continue 3 drops 3 times a day... he is going strong on his 4º day of 3 drops but his sore throat is full of pus and still fever... why???:(:(
Pure energy,
How is your son?
nirvana
16-03-2009, 11:18 PM
http://www.makemms.blogspot.com/
thats where i got mine and lots of it too ..make your own :)
there is a link on the page somewhere to mail him about sending postal orders or checks.
upto 14 drops now and feel great..having some really lucid dreaming meditative expiriences too.. really nice feeling
If i had a credit card I would buy this looks good.
Is there anywhere you can buy mms by postal order in uk?
Peace:)
If i had a credit card I would buy this looks good.
Is there anywhere you can buy mms by postal order in uk?
Peace:)
This address is from the website lupa suggested. Maybe you could write them and ask about where to send a payment in the post to them.
mmsforlife@anonymousspeech.com
alexm
17-03-2009, 03:30 AM
Well, I was a bit sceptical about mms for many reasons . . .
But it cured my herpes which I was very pleased about - I had the initial symptoms so I quickly started on 2 drops and moved up to 8 drops within 5 days I was pretty much 'cured'. I continued for just over a week, I was up to 8 drops . . . I also had a strong tingling feeling in strange areas of my body which went after about a week - I felt that this was what mms was curing and when the tinglying went away I stopped taking the mms. So far I have had no further attacks.
I also had slight alopecia (very mild hair loss in some areas of my body, like a portion of my chin) which it also seemed to cure, hair has grown back in those areas. And also I brushed with it and it has made my teeth really white!
So my experience with it is very good - I think it is a very strong substance and should be taken slowly/carefully - but i am happy with the results.
pure_energy
17-03-2009, 11:37 AM
Hey Coco how are you darling?
My son is still bad and I just gave up.. he started on antibiotcs 1 hour ago... My face is pure disapointment.... I cant belive that on the moment that I needed the most ( I am not even going to start on my wife health problem ) MMS fail me.
I still want to believe that alternative medicine is the future and MMS can help but to say that kills every patogen in your body is a pure and cruel lie.
Hey Coco how are you darling?
My son is still bad and I just gave up.. he started on antibiotcs 1 hour ago... My face is pure disapointment.... I cant belive that on the moment that I needed the most ( I am not even going to start on my wife health problem ) MMS fail me.
I still want to believe that alternative medicine is the future and MMS can help but to say that kills every patogen in your body is a pure and cruel lie.
I'm so sorry. Perhaps your son's infection was too advanced for the MMS to work in a quick fashion. He's so young and I know you didn't want to give him a large dose as that would make him feel worse.
You're right that alternative medicine being the healthy wave to ride and we to have to educate ourselves about those things - and share the knowledge as we do here be it good or bad.
Here's to your dear wife and son and to you as their provider and caretaker. http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/2417_open_arms.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)
lostinstrangeworld
18-03-2009, 12:15 AM
This looks like a good site for info:
http://mmsmiracle.com/about/
lostinstrangeworld
18-03-2009, 12:16 AM
Good advice coco....I'm so sorry to hear of your difficulties, pure_energy....I do hope you find the answers that will help somehow.
pure_energy
18-03-2009, 11:43 AM
I'm so sorry. Perhaps your son's infection was too advanced for the MMS to work in a quick fashion. He's so young and I know you didn't want to give him a large dose as that would make him feel worse.
You're right that alternative medicine being the healthy wave to ride and we to have to educate ourselves about those things - and share the knowledge as we do here be it good or bad.
Here's to your dear wife and son and to you as their provider and caretaker. http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/2417_open_arms.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)
Hi again coco... Thanks for the words but then again MMS is to cure malaria, cancer, hepatites, HIV, etc... there is not a sore throat bacteria that is stronger than cancer or HIV so I do feel lost.
Again thanks for the words I will keep trying other ways.
Ps. thanks for your thoughts lostinstrangeworld a good vibe is always welcome.
thelucifer
19-03-2009, 11:14 PM
Hey Coco how are you darling?
My son is still bad and I just gave up.. he started on antibiotcs 1 hour ago... My face is pure disapointment.... I cant belive that on the moment that I needed the most ( I am not even going to start on my wife health problem ) MMS fail me.
I still want to believe that alternative medicine is the future and MMS can help but to say that kills every patogen in your body is a pure and cruel lie.
MMS didnt/cant fail, oxidation is a sure thing, its not a cruel lie.
There are factors I cant know and wont try to guess in your situation, do use the antibiotic for this problem and do keep the MMS in mind for future use, again, it cant fail.
I would most certainly suggest the wife get going, start slow even but get going.
Jim says some stuff takes months.
Good to see you again, the lucifer. :) I must confess I am very puzzled about how MMS can affect positively a female hormonal issue (post #223) when it is touted as a very real remedy for infections, cancer, herpes, etc.
According to physicans since I was 11 years old, I am a textbook case of endometriosis (sp?). Misshapen organs in conjuction with a faulty mechanism in my brain has been described as the root of the issue causing hormones to go weird - or hormones causing things to go weird. I don't honestly know.
Can you offer any insight about MMS in relation to this or point me to a direction where I might learn more?
When I was 11 years old - back in the 70's - the physical issue was regarded as a temporary development anomaly as young girls could not possibly be far enough along developmentaly to have such weighty issues. The extreme pain experienced during 'that time' was dismissed as a young lady who was not used to such normal instances and was exaggerating b/c she did not wish to accept that childhood was ending.
I was even sent to a counselor. Truly, I thought since the professionals were all saying the same thing that there must be something wrong with my mind.
Since the late eighties, I found a doctor, whom I had a great relationship with, that enlightened me that medicine now accepts that young girls can really have a real problem that may not necessarily be psychological or easily dismissed as a rudimentary developmental issue. While it was not his place to do so, he apologized to me on behalf of medicine's previous assumptions.
thelucifer
20-03-2009, 12:30 AM
Good to see you again, the lucifer. :) I must confess I am very puzzled about how MMS can affect positively a female hormonal issue (post #223) when it is touted as a very real remedy for infections, cancer, herpes, etc.
According to physicans since I was 11 years old, I am a textbook case of endometriosis (sp?). Misshapen organs in conjuction with a faulty mechanism in my brain has been described as the root of the issue causing hormones to go weird - or hormones causing things to go weird. I don't honestly know.
Can you offer any insight about MMS in relation to this or point me to a direction where I might learn more?
When I was 11 years old - back in the 70's - the physical issue was regarded as a temporary development anomaly as young girls could not possibly be far enough along developmentaly to have such weighty issues. The extreme pain experienced during 'that time' was dismissed as a young lady who was not used to such normal instances and was exaggerating b/c she did not wish to accept that childhood was ending.
I was even sent to a counselor. Truly, I thought since the professionals were all saying the same thing that there must be something wrong with my mind.
Since the late eighties, I found a doctor, whom I had a great relationship with, that enlightened me that medicine now accepts that young girls can really have a real problem that may not necessarily be psychological or easily dismissed as a rudimentary developmental issue. While it was not his place to do so, he apologized to me on behalf of medicine's previous assumptions.
MMS doesn't heal anything, it only kills.
The pathogens no doubt effect the body in untold ways, so by killing the pathogens your body is freed up to correct things, your body is the best doctor you have, your mind can be the second best by giving the body the tools to do its job.
Has MMS helped you ?
Sorry, I have read past posts but I cant recall at this moment.
thelucifer
20-03-2009, 12:41 AM
I take a hormonal medication every three months. During the third month I usually become very tired, my lower back aches, pelvic cramping, headaches, facial blemishes, and a fibrous cyst in my breast becomes inflamed and very sore. I also experience melancholy and my appetite increases. Oh and the hot flashes.
My next dose of medication is this Friday, the 20th. I had been supplementing with prenatal vitamins for a few years and the symptoms described were reduced somewhat. I was happy about that.
Since taking MMS I can tell you that my lower back has not bothered me, I've only had two minor bouts of pelvic discomfort, no headaches, little melancholy, no blemish breakouts, little tiredness during the day, better sleep, and the fibrous cyst has not acted up at all. No hot flashes but I did have a warm flash a few days ago.
I was waiting for this time period to see how or if at all MMS would affect. I am pleased with the result.
Coco what drops are you at etc ?
I have to run in a bit so I will catch up later.
I would be interested in the cyst not acting up even going away.
MMS doesn't heal anything, it only kills.
The pathogens no doubt effect the body in untold ways, so by killing the pathogens your body is freed up to correct things, your body is the best doctor you have, your mind can be the second best by giving the body the tools to do its job.
Has MMS helped you ?
Sorry, I have read past posts but I cant recall at this moment.
Thank you for answering,
Makes sense; when the clutter is out of the way then things can function properly. Or as properly as they possibly can.
Yes, MMS has helped! In what I have mentioned in my previous posts but most surprisingly in reference to how I feel now that my hormone supplement injection is due.
Normally at this time I feel awful physically and somewhat emotionally. My doctor explained that hormones gone awry are the culprits that affect me physically AND mentally - crying, poor memory, nervousness, hot and cold spells, backaches, headaches, melancholy, blemishes, pelvic cramping, breast pain, etc. After my injection I become right as rain again, though.
MMS has helped me hold out very easily until the next injection.
Coco what drops are you at etc ?
I have to run in a bit so I will catch up later.
I would be interested in the cyst not acting up even going away.
I am up to 15 once a day. I don't think I can do 15 twice a day as after my morning dose my stomach feels a little yucky for a short while. I have been doing 15 for little over a week. I did not follow the usual plan for increasing the regimen by one drop per day as I encountered painful gas and an upset stomach. I took it slow and when my body felt it could increase by a drop then I would do so. The minor stomach discomfort is easily tolerated these days compared to when I first began MMS.
In reference to the breast cyst: I had been aware that something was going on since I was 11 years old. I was finally placed on medication when I was 21 for that issue but mainly others. Even so, every month the breast would become very sore, moreso than the other. Elders told me this was normal. Once a month I might wear a 'foundation garment' to bed sometimes and/or employ a heating pad. I would have difficulty using my arm carrying bags of groceries or using the manual book binding machine at work. My keying would slow. When the new month came however, those difficulties disappeared.
When my third medication - a pill - failed after 7 years, the cyst became extremely large and inhibited my ability to hardly use my arm at all. I described this, among other things, to my doctor. He personally examined and suggested that the endometriosis had climbed to a new level. He ordered a mammogram and a sonogram. The sonogram b/c I was only 30 and had never been pregnant thus the breast material was dense. It was confirmed the cyst was fibrous and b/c of its location it was affecting arm muscular control and possibly interfering with a nerve in my arm. 200 mg Depo Provera was prescribed and I have been taking it for almost 13 years now every three months. During the third month of the injection, one month before the next, the fibrous breast cyst enflames and becomes very sore.
This is my first - third month on MMS and for the first time in my life that cyst has not acted up at all. Thanks be to God! Other usual symptoms have either not bothered me at all or have been minimized.
In reference to the reproductive organ cysts: I have had both fibrous and watery. Cyclical also but only sometimes. The cyclicals may be watery or fibrous and generally come and go in relation to the cycle. Many times I have not experienced cyclicals, a number of times I have. The cyclicals were confirmed via sonogram over a period of visits spanning a few days. I have had surgeries to address the fibrous and the watery that would not go away via laparoscopy. Since using Depo for the past 13 years I have not had any reproductive organ cysts. Thanks be to God!
thelucifer
20-03-2009, 03:08 AM
I am up to 15 once a day. I don't think I can do 15 twice a day as after my morning dose my stomach feels a little yucky for a short while. I have been doing 15 for little over a week. I did not follow the usual plan for increasing the regimen by one drop per day as I encountered painful gas and an upset stomach. I took it slow and when my body felt it could increase by a drop then I would do so. The minor stomach discomfort is easily tolerated these days compared to when I first began MMS.
In reference to the breast cyst: I had been aware that something was going on since I was 11 years old. I was finally placed on medication when I was 21 for that issue but mainly others. Even so, every month the breast would become very sore, moreso than the other. Elders told me this was normal. Once a month I might wear a 'foundation garment' to bed sometimes and/or employ a heating pad. I would have difficulty using my arm carrying bags of groceries or using the manual book binding machine at work. My keying would slow. When the new month came however, those difficulties disappeared.
When my third medication - a pill - failed after 7 years, the cyst became extremely large and inhibited my ability to hardly use my arm at all. I described this, among other things, to my doctor. He personally examined and suggested that the endometriosis had climbed to a new level. He ordered a mammogram and a sonogram. The sonogram b/c I was only 30 and had never been pregnant thus the breast material was dense. It was confirmed the cyst was fibrous and b/c of its location it was affecting arm muscular control and possibly interfering with a nerve in my arm. 200 mg Depo Provera was prescribed and I have been taking it for almost 13 years now every three months. During the third month of the injection, one month before the next, the fibrous breast cyst enflames and becomes very sore.
This is my first - third month on MMS and for the first time in my life that cyst has not acted up at all. Thanks be to God! Other usual symptoms have either not bothered me at all or have been minimized.
In reference to the reproductive organ cysts: I have had both fibrous and watery. Cyclical also but only sometimes. The cyclicals may be watery or fibrous and generally come and go in relation to the cycle. Many times I have not experienced cyclicals, a number of times I have. The cyclicals were confirmed via sonogram over a period of visits spanning a few days. I have had surgeries to address the fibrous and the watery that would not go away via laparoscopy. Since using Depo for the past 13 years I have not had any reproductive organ cysts. Thanks be to God!
I think it would be very good for you to try an evening dose also, start low though.
I am at 14 drops 2 times today, a few bouts of diarrhea
I had an upset stomach one morning, didnt vomit.
I am going to stay at 15 two times a day for a week and then increase to 3 times a day and hold that for a week and then increase daily up to 25 drops three times a day.
I think it would be very good for you to try an evening dose also, start low though.
I am at 14 drops 2 times today, a few bouts of diarrhea
I had an upset stomach one morning, didnt vomit.
I am going to stay at 15 two times a day for a week and then increase to 3 times a day and hold that for a week and then increase daily up to 25 drops three times a day.
Hmmm.....I'll give that a try this evening. Perhaps between 8-10 drops. :)
thelucifer
20-03-2009, 03:54 PM
Hmmm.....I'll give that a try this evening. Perhaps between 8-10 drops. :)
You probably should start a little lower, start at 5 drops tonight, if that goes ok try 10 tomorrow evening.
Im thinking better safe than sorry is probably a good approach. ;)
You probably should start a little lower, start at 5 drops tonight, if that goes ok try 10 tomorrow evening.
Im thinking better safe than sorry is probably a good approach. ;)
Too right. Thank you for the advice. :)
I hope my previous posts help other women and helps you help other women.
thelucifer
20-03-2009, 04:31 PM
I am up to 15 once a day. I don't think I can do 15 twice a day as after my morning dose my stomach feels a little yucky for a short while. I have been doing 15 for little over a week. I did not follow the usual plan for increasing the regimen by one drop per day as I encountered painful gas and an upset stomach. I took it slow and when my body felt it could increase by a drop then I would do so. The minor stomach discomfort is easily tolerated these days compared to when I first began MMS.
Coco you are following the plan by increasing as fast as you can without nausea.
The protocol you are doing (15 drops once a day) is a very light one, the full protocols are 15-25 drops three times a day (45-75 drops total per day), the other is 90 drops per day.
When reaching these full protocols you are taking serious action.
This is my first - third month on MMS and for the first time in my life that cyst has not acted up at all. Thanks be to God! Other usual symptoms have either not bothered me at all or have been minimized.
Good news there, and that is just at 15 drops total per day. :)
thelucifer
20-03-2009, 04:52 PM
I have been looking into Bob Beck and blood electrifying to disable ALL pathogens in the blood, I am absolutely going to buy a Bob Beck blood zapper and use it and promote its use.
Do look into it, google his video and watch it.
Bob says the average 150 pound body has 2 pounds of pathogens/parasites in the body.
Thats serious.
MMS has some serious work to do.
patrish
21-03-2009, 07:38 AM
Hi
I have one of Bob Beckers zappers and can recommend it. I also have MMS, I got up to 6 drops and had to stop as I got the winter vomiting bug. I was only ill for 12 hours, most people have it longer. I'm sure the MMS helped me over it.
I must start again........
Patrish x
PS When using the zapper you need to put back the healthy bugs with a probiotic supplement or yoghurt
ex sheep
21-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Hi guys,
been studying this stuff for a while, I found a lump under at the side of my tongue.
I have taken photo's of it and I will publish the results here when I am finished.
I started taking MMS 3 days ago, and have been pushing it as hard as I can.
This morning I am up to 10 drops already, and I took another 10, 2 hrs later.
I can really feel it working now as I feel quite nauseous and have diarrhea. So I am going to cut back a bit as instructed.
If this works for me I will be trying to help as many people as I can.
We must have a load of shit in our body's, but it fights back until it can take no more, MMS is really just helping your immune system fight back against all the shit that's been thrown at us.
I wish everyone all the success in trying to combat these terrible things that have been given to us, let's beat this.
thelucifer
21-03-2009, 03:23 PM
Hi guys,
been studying this stuff for a while, I found a lump under at the side of my tongue.
I have taken photo's of it and I will publish the results here when I am finished.
I started taking MMS 3 days ago, and have been pushing it as hard as I can.
This morning I am up to 10 drops already, and I took another 10, 2 hrs later.
I can really feel it working now as I feel quite nauseous and have diarrhea. So I am going to cut back a bit as instructed.
If this works for me I will be trying to help as many people as I can.
We must have a load of shit in our body's, but it fights back until it can take no more, MMS is really just helping your immune system fight back against all the shit that's been thrown at us.
I wish everyone all the success in trying to combat these terrible things that have been given to us, let's beat this.
Brush your teeth with MMS (6/30 with 1 ounce of water) and gargle/mouthwash with it, when doing the mouth rinse keep it in your mouth for at least 3 minutes.
patrish
21-03-2009, 08:15 PM
You can also bathe in MMS 30/150 - its another way of getting into the body without the "side effects"
Patrish x
I wish you success, ex-sheep. Yes, gargle with MMS as thelucifer suggested; bathe with it as Patrish suggested. Kill that rotten thing! Take your body back! Atack it on all fronts!
Please keep us updated on your progress as you can. :)
I'm going to check into that blood zapper thing. Also, in a thread a few weeks ago a poster mentioned spirulina. The poster said it is a very positive thing. Anyone else had any experience with this?
patrish
22-03-2009, 09:11 AM
Ho Coco,
I've posted a link to the site I got my zapper from - they were prompt and and answered any questions I had. I got the one that zaps and makes coloidal silver.
http://www.goodvitality.com/
I've been taking spirulina on and off for about 2 years, I can't say that I feel like a teenager again(don't think I'd want to!) But I belive its a perfect food
http://spirulina.org.uk/
I'm going to start cleaning my teeth with MMS, I've got a dental appointment in April - if it works like I have heard from others my dentist is in for a surprise
Keep positive ex sheep - healing thoughts in your general direction.
Patrish x