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king crass
27-12-2008, 12:42 PM
A key method intelligence agencies use to engage in gang stalking and surveillance

December 27, 2008 — Stefan Fobes

by Stefan Fobes

Life has been….rather something interesting for me. My life story would definitely take a book to put up in its full detail and context. So I’ll just go over this in a nutshell. I was born out of marriage, or as they call it popularly, out of wedlock, to Marie Jacques Graceline Lherisson, later Jacqueline Fobes, and the brother of the current Haitian ambassador to the US, Leopold Joseph. The Fobes family is bigtime bloodline. Just check out these genealogy. The story I’ll tell will be, to the reader, quite unbelievable, just to understand the sheer scale of how desperate the intelligence agency/Satanic network is to keep a lockdown on those people born into their families. From top to bottom, you will understand how they stalk a target in a big city. In my case, New York.

You must understand that the Illuminati own the public school system lock, stock and barrel. If you put your kid into one of those camps, you understand good and well that you’ve got the neighborhood and community Satanists, intelligence agency operatives, and a big stew of informants. My elementary school, in New York City, where I went to, the Manhattan New School, was loaded with agency operatives. And most likely still is. Through the system where messages are relayed from point to point through the abovelisted types of people, my own life was made miserable through sending the children of the local Satanists to rough me up every chance they got, while the “teachers” looked away. Not all the children have to be Satanists to get that sort of job done. If enough people in the right positions make fun of someone and pick on someone, pretty soon, everyone else will too. Or at the very least won’t do anything to stop it for fear of looking unpopular too. The names of some of the Satanist teachers at the time I went there are Judy Davis, Kevin Tallat-Kelpsa, Layne Hughes.

Operatives, or those accessible by operatives, are all over the place. Really, it’s not all that hard for the intelligence agencies to access someone to do what they want to do. I read that story written by that total retard just fluffing gang stalking, and it just made me cringe, especially the part that just laughs off the part about stalkers living near targets. From my experience, I’d say at least, a quarter of all apartment rentals are taken up by operatives from the CIA/NSA/etc, who don’t necessarily live there, but hold the space itself to be used for spying purposes at certain times. They generally prefer to get window apartments, in order to see which way their target is going, whether it be by foot or by car or bus or what have you. These spotters can be out on the street in about two minutes at the least (I’ve timed it), and they are extraordinarily sadistic, although if you have or develop a reputation of being a bit violent or rough around the edges, attempts at pickpocketing you or stealing your money will stop. An intelligence agency spotter will, on one of their little missions, stand wherever they feel they need to to get the job done, even on the steps of a building they don’t live in. They seem to project an aura of invisibility, which is enhanced by the nature of cities. Most people do not notice everyone else, even most police officers, so busy are they in the rat race of life, and they could, theoretically stand just about anywhere all night long until the right people are notified and they are questioned as to their business. They even stand in front of and even loiter inside buildings waiting for people they are spying on, buildings that they don’t live in, and not be seen as suspicious by the occupants simply because in the big cities, no one knows their own neighbors at all, and don’t even care to, such is the raw amount of TV bread and circuses to be awaited in the living room.

These intelligence agency spotters also have their little cars of course. Real nice cars. I’m talking Lexuses, shiny new SUVs, which are company cars. Generally they use cellphones to communicate, although I am seeing lately more of a trend towards iPhones. They also wear wires. They come from all ethnicities, White, Black, Hispanic. Even people as old as about 65 are used, and as young as 16. Although Whites are used the most, and then after that Hispanics, and then after that Blacks. Although, if a person is seen as trusting only Black people, they will switch over to using more Black minions. They dress in dark colors (navy blue, grey, black) and a couple of them I have seen even wore full suits. They always travel in at least pairs. Whenever you see one, there’s another somewhere close by. You will notice them on the job by their robotic way, like an organic lighthouse, the way the move their head rapidly left and right, over and over and over looking around, cellphone or iPhone in hand. If they are walking on foot they have either knapsacks, or with the women, handbags. I have never gotten the opportunity to find out what is in them yet.

This at first, when they are more complacent and they do not yet realize that they are being seen by their target in their activities, is easy to see if an eye is kept on the environment and know how to recognize patterns. During this stage, as soon as they saw me, well, then they would detatch themselves from where they were sitting or standing and get right to walking. Also, when seen, and it is made clear that it is understood that they are there, they generally either do one of several things. The first is to start talking into their phone to their operator in code that sounds like regular conversation. They also might put their hand to their ear and start talking to their operator. Tinted windows on cars are a favorite because they are far less likely to be seen by sharper eyed targets. If the spotter gets extra spooked, he will call backup, which usually consists of two men who “seem” to be engaged in conversation, but no matter how engaged the two seem to be in their talking, one always has his eyes riveted on the person he is spying on. After it is determined that there is no harm to the spotter, these two men will split up in opposite directions. The same tactic will be used if discovered, if two spotters are on foot in a stationary position close by together.

Another way to enhance the spying is, in the course of the spying, go into stores where the person they are spying on goes to frequently, and then contact the manager or owner or whoever is on duty at the establishment most often, and then tell them that the person they are spying on is a criminal, or involved in something shady. Or they just get full agents jobs in the stores themselves to keep an eye on things. A rumor was spread through to the gangs and drug dealers at my high school by my half-brother Michael Fobes, who has extensive connections into the illegal drug trade and Arizona and New York gangs, that I was a police officer, and that I had weapons hidden in my coat. I don’t need to tell readers just how dangerous that was. When these people want to try to control someone, everything they got will be used to undermine that person’s quality of well being in daily life, and these are just some of the tools of the trade, albeit the most basic and fundamental ones.

After a spotter tries to skip off, they will always look over their shoulder with a angry or suspicious look on their face, or suddenly stop in the middle of the street and then pretend to look in a store window. One woman, last week did this, smiling all the way like she thought she was important and smart. If they know they are being followed, they will try to shake a person by going into a store, hoping that their quarry will get tired and try to go back about their previous business. Every single mannerism, look, gesture, and physical movement, no matter how slight is watched sharply and reported back to their handler, who then gets the data crunched, and passed between the nodes of the surveillance network where it is brainstormed and then a new strategy formulated based upon the most current data. Strangely enough, they seem to like to be seen as ninjas or something and will also wait till they are out of my line of sight, and quickly move away to somewhere, as though to try to get the message to me that they are mystical. No you are not mystical, you are little imps who are being targeted for the same tyranny as everyone else, not knowing who you serve or what’s coming for you. Most these people don’t even know how fast it’s coming, and for the ones who do, there is no honor among thieves, and if they think the Illuminati don’t keep tabs on them and will let them live in a planned New World Order with their knowledge of agency operations and spying tactics, where they could grow to be a threat, they must surely believe in Santa, too. The people who will live and be subkings of little fiefdoms in the planned global dictatorship are already handpicked, and these poor foot soldiers aren’t among the chosen and are seen as cattle just like every other “global citizen”.

The superintendent in my building, named Ed Hot, who hides behind that name and it isn’t even his full one, and his wife, Sally Hot, are intelligence agency assets. Two others in my building are as well, and there are a couple more in the building to the left and to the right of mine, as well as some accessible people in the construction company down the block who have a grudge against me for some silly little reason. My main problem, is that since I live with my mother’s husband, Robert Fobes, throughout all of this, it has been difficult not to be tracked, and the elaborate procedures just to get out to get something to eat during the day would make any Vietnam vet groan with amazement. No joke. Robert Fobes has a communication device on him which he then alerts his fellow intelligence agency operatives as to my comings and goings. He and his friends have also bugged the apartment we live in so that even when he is gone, the tracking attempts can still go on. The recievers for that equipment are in other operatives day apartments and it would be interesting to crack open their doors and see all of what was in there. This could all be easily proven in court by accessing the cell phone records of the people involved, where they just straight out plan and brainstorm and trade daily reports of the spying, so if you people want to sue me, go straight ahead. Let this all come out in court.

This all started to really intensify when I had 100% pinned down my half brother Michael Fobes as a key node in all of this. So when I confronted him on this, and then angrily hung up the phone, he showed his true colors, as I thought he would, and then tried to get me committed. In the intelligence agency/Satanic hierarchy, he and his wife Hellali Berlinger Fobes are higher than Robert Fobes and actually dictate orders to him. Robert Fobes, when in his agency mode and not hiding behind the senile friendly old man personality, is the most sycophantic, pathetic individual you could ever hear or see when talking to them. Yes. I understand. What do you want me to do. Ugh. Here’s what he looks like. He even said to me himself he was of a Reptilian bloodline, and once, even told me that I "have a human mind." In all seriousness. As the saying goes, even if you don't believe that they are real, they do believe that they are shapeshifting Reptilians, and that's why they have to be stopped.

http://warofillusions.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/robert.jpg

Another key tactic, just in case you were wondering, is to call up a potential employer of a person that is being spied and tracked, and tell them that they are a terrorist, a member of a gang, any sort of thing that will defile their reputation. This is why I am typing this here now.

The Fobes family have many reptilian shapeshifters in their clan. Robert Fobes proudly says in all seriousness he’s a blood drinker, he worships Lucifer, and that he comes from a reptilian bloodline and that I have a human mind which is different from his. Even if most people cringe at this information, well, all I can say is just that I’m putting it out there. And to please take a look at a photo of the deceased Queen Mother of England sometime.

So this is how a typical day goes with the minions. When I leave, and Robert Fobes is in the apartment, the communications device is pressed, and from the neighborhood cracks and crevices spring out the spotters. They prefer the pincer mode of spying — at least one person behind and one person ahead. They operate on a Matrix like system where the operator guides them where to go, working from the profile list of places where I regularly go. They are easily seen when you know to look because frankly, they have an unusually watchful look in their eyes and a demeanor about them that just screams fed. They will always park illegally, and always have their hands on the wheel. The street spotters are available 24/7, seven days of the week. Using this one ahead, one behind tactic, they can appear to be psychic to those who don’t understand where all of it is coming from. Two years ago pictures were taken of me quite often, and then I was a little bit scared, but no trace of that remains now that I see the lack of vital strength radiating from the people involved in this. If readers could see some of the emaciated effeminate looking guys they put on me, they would be collapsing with laughter. These people are no talent hacks who probably never could get a real job in the first place. That’s why they joined up with Big Brother. Why should anyone in their right mind, knowing this, be scared of them, no matter what their tracking capabilities?

I would suggest this be stored in people’s minds very carefully because this may well be the way they use to track political figures and other people they have an axe to grind with in order to assassinate them.

Why they do this has something to do with my mother, who is seen as property by the Fobes family, and apparently (haha) they actually see me as property as well. She had the classic glassy eyes that you find so often when you look at photos of people who claim to be under mind control, and I suppose they want themselves a new “asset”. Well, I love to disappoint you — I’m no one’s asset but my own. Why do I put this out, if I’m really in such a position? Because I don’t like living like this, and no one else should. Besides, I’ve had a couple of near brushes with death, and I’m still here after all these 22 years and attempts to undermine my mind, and at the right times and moments, and with a LOT of use of passion and hard work, things just seemed to turn aside at the last moment, so I guess something somewhere has love for me. I want to set an example for anyone else out there who is living in circumstances like this to wisely find someone (or someones) accessible who has a big readership and get your story to them. Public exposure is the worst thing that could happen in these creatures minds, and the last straw on the NWO back.

tracker
27-12-2008, 03:58 PM
well thats a shocking story if ever i have heard one .

Its not nice when one experiences these things especially when close loved ones dont believe you when you tell them these things in trust .

yet many hype the "gang stalking" situation to cover everything , and that includes natural rumor mongerers and human nature as far as mentality is concerned .
what i have noticed is that sooooooo many gang stalking sites do not indicate anything about "natural rumor mongerers " that can course something very similar in nature and "normal human behaviour" which is also similar in nature as far as popularity and alegiences are concerned in small time gettos and run down estates .


read my thread and it will explain this more clearly .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41009

bob_jones
27-12-2008, 04:56 PM
I read this with great care, being careful not to form opinions or judements and to avoid mis-reading the detail.
They sometimes set up these jobs to get people to have nervous breakdowns, even to trick you into killing someone so they can put you on the news and use your stroy to sell psychiatric drugs and to help with new laws.
In the UK we had the paranoid scitsophrenic that hadn't taken medication for nearly two years who flips out all of a sudden and runs amoke with a knife.
I called it the "Phantom knife man of Old London Town" to pararhase the Two Ronnies "Phantom Rasperry blower of Old London Town", because the whole story was a joke.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

They may have had an agent do the knife atacks, but they ran the same stroy too many times without changing it very much.
It was simply a false flag operation to promote the fraud of psychiatry.

But why bother with the Target Individual in this case?

It seems that they want to make this type of thing part of society.
Like it was in East Germany where 1 in 4 people were in the secret police.
The bright young things on the Alex Jones social network were so disillusioned when I pointed out that they were more likley to be sectioned for mental health that framed as terrorists or put in the trendy new FEMA camps.

If they told said they were reptiles then it was in the hope you would repeat the admission to a doctor as then you would be damned.

But that seems obvious.

amandaooo
27-12-2008, 06:29 PM
Do you not think you could be paranoid?

I mean - have you given it an iota of thought?

Do you think paranoia is real?

People who take the weed suffer from this. They would rather think that someone is after them than realise that their addiction is making them paranoid.

If I stalked someone who went on conspiracy sites etc, I would be bored in 10 seconds flat and came up with another plan. I mean, lets face it, you are out to buy some riza papers and maybe potnoodle - chicken and mushroom flavour. Get over yourself already. You are not even remotely attractive to TPTB.

Clean out your system of your drugs and change your life.

These kind of posts and the people who respond with validation make me furious.

grachtengordel
27-12-2008, 08:43 PM
A key method intelligence agencies use to engage in gang stalking and surveillance.................

Very informative, thanks for posting!

marpat
27-12-2008, 08:52 PM
I think with regard to the OP that you are talking crap. No point in giving them nice shiny cars that stand out otherwise the game is up. I guess they all walk round in sunglasses too.

Use cell phones to communicate? do they fuck. Why not just broadcast their speech on the cell phone network. Let me give an opinion. You are imagining that you are being followed and that when you see people on phones in nice cars you think they are following you. Do you think it would be that obvious?

tracker
27-12-2008, 10:21 PM
Do you not think you could be paranoid?

I mean - have you given it an iota of thought?

Do you think paranoia is real?

People who take the weed suffer from this. They would rather think that someone is after them than realise that their addiction is making them paranoid.

If I stalked someone who went on conspiracy sites etc, I would be bored in 10 seconds flat and came up with another plan. I mean, lets face it, you are out to buy some riza papers and maybe potnoodle - chicken and mushroom flavour. Get over yourself already. You are not even remotely attractive to TPTB.

Clean out your system of your drugs and change your life.

These kind of posts and the people who respond with validation make me furious.

oky doky amandaoo says it isn't true and it doesnt exist .:rolleyes:

why ?
because you haven't seen it or gone through it ?

its people like you amandaoo who make people who go through these things actually flip out ! because you are trying to insinuate that they are imagining things !

the reason why i have validated only part of it is because it does exist !
unfortunately amandaoo no one has your tiny little shining picture of the world , not all people have your perfect little see nothing wrong life !
this world can be cruel , it can be harsh , why don't you face the truth your self .

other than that , i have gone through this too ! i have not imagined it and i over came it , and am now very successful in a career , maybe next time you might consider that before insinuating other peoples mentality .

i don't think that they imagine it , but it also doesnt mean that every single thing they experience is gang stalking .

i have posted a link to this subject , all they have to do is take up the action on it and it will either expose these situations as imaginary or real and will also explain how to overcome it .

wake up amandaoo and read my thread your self .

its real , and the local councils and authorities have admitted this in a statement made by them self as a justification to ( and i quote )

"to hinder the progress " of persons / people using banks , businesses . local wardens , voluntary groups , citizens advice , tax men etc etc etc etc etc .

i suppose amandaoo is now going to call the local council authority a lier for making this publicly known ?

yeah what ever .

meksar
27-12-2008, 10:22 PM
Just don't fear the reps, if you are in fear of them they will show no mercy, if you have conquered love they cannot destroy you

tracker
27-12-2008, 10:27 PM
Just don't fear the reps, if you are in fear of them they will show no mercy, if you have conquered love they cannot destroy you

this is mostly what its all about , inducing fear to make people hide away etc .

bob_jones
28-12-2008, 06:38 PM
Once they are in the gang they love to sabbotage the work of their betters.
They tend to recruit destructive people.
Constructive people can't be doing with the thing because it is all about how the wicked can get back at their better by spoling their work.
That sort of person will always have to look up to people like me.
they know they are lower and insted of working on their own improvement they try and spoil the work of others.
They will always have to look up and always spot unpleasant things from down there in their inferiority and deceit.
But here is some more of the Phanton Raspberry blower in case you dont know of it:-
two ronnies the phantom raspberry blower classic - YouTube

Ian2day
28-12-2008, 11:44 PM
As a victim of this myself. You really have two options. Either focus on it all or just don't show any interest in the games and laugh when ever they are about. Uf you decide to focus on what is being done to you. Pick one or two of the stalkers adn turn the tables on them.

fishonwheels
28-04-2010, 04:40 AM
You know, there's lots of phantasmal stuff on this forum and on no topic, besdies your usual race and religion oriented threads, do I see as much reactionary hostility as towards posts on covert sureveillance and harrassment.

A little strange, don't you think?

However I understand the incredulity as someone who's been experiencing covert sabotage only for years as before this got obvious I'd similarly disbelieve.

Do you not think you could be paranoid?

I mean - have you given it an iota of thought?

Do you think paranoia is real?

People who take the weed suffer from this. They would rather think that someone is after them than realise that their addiction is making them paranoid.

have you give it iota of thought that covert harassment or surveillance could be real?

I don't claim to know the whole truth on this topic but I've seen enough to know there's something to it.

If I stalked someone who went on conspiracy sites etc, I would be bored in 10 seconds flat and came up with another plan. I mean, lets face it, you are out to buy some riza papers and maybe potnoodle - chicken and mushroom flavour. Get over yourself already. You are not even remotely attractive to TPTB.

Now if you go back to the op you'll see King Crass did not say he was this "Stefan Fobes."

We do not know this Stefan Fobes but if he's as well connected as he says, is it truly a surprise people could be keeping tabs on him?

Clean out your system of your drugs and change your life. These kind of posts and the people who respond with validation make me furious.

I'm not againt you, but people who attack anything outside their realm of experience as bogus frustrates me.

I think with regard to the OP that you are talking crap. No point in giving them nice shiny cars that stand out otherwise the game is up. I guess they all walk round in sunglasses too.

Use cell phones to communicate? do they fuck. Why not just broadcast their speech on the cell phone network. Let me give an opinion. You are imagining that you are being followed and that when you see people on phones in nice cars you think they are following you. Do you think it would be that obvious?

Keep in mind this is NYC, where flashy cars are the norm.

I live in a small city on the West Coast of North America, and it's no secret from time to time public servants do abuse their resources, and that's lower rung public service without a black budget.

martg
28-04-2010, 04:49 AM
Do you not think you could be paranoid?

I mean - have you given it an iota of thought?

Do you think paranoia is real?

People who take the weed suffer from this. They would rather think that someone is after them than realise that their addiction is making them paranoid.

If I stalked someone who went on conspiracy sites etc, I would be bored in 10 seconds flat and came up with another plan. I mean, lets face it, you are out to buy some riza papers and maybe potnoodle - chicken and mushroom flavour. Get over yourself already. You are not even remotely attractive to TPTB.

Clean out your system of your drugs and change your life.

These kind of posts and the people who respond with validation make me furious.

gangstalking by intelligence agencies is very real.
just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, perhaps rather than just reacting in the way you did, you should have a good look at why you are getting angry.

runlikehell
28-04-2010, 06:20 AM
I read this with great care, being careful not to form opinions or judements and to avoid mis-reading the detail.
They sometimes set up these jobs to get people to have nervous breakdowns, even to trick you into killing someone so they can put you on the news and use your stroy to sell psychiatric drugs and to help with new laws.
In the UK we had the paranoid scitsophrenic that hadn't taken medication for nearly two years who flips out all of a sudden and runs amoke with a knife.
I called it the "Phantom knife man of Old London Town" to pararhase the Two Ronnies "Phantom Rasperry blower of Old London Town", because the whole story was a joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1oKlJpDZPg&feature=related

They may have had an agent do the knife atacks, but they ran the same stroy too many times without changing it very much.
It was simply a false flag operation to promote the fraud of psychiatry.

But why bother with the Target Individual in this case?

It seems that they want to make this type of thing part of society.
Like it was in East Germany where 1 in 4 people were in the secret police.
The bright young things on the Alex Jones social network were so disillusioned when I pointed out that they were more likley to be sectioned for mental health that framed as terrorists or put in the trendy new FEMA camps.

If they told said they were reptiles then it was in the hope you would repeat the admission to a doctor as then you would be damned.

But that seems obvious.


Ahhhhh lmfao! i remember the Phantom Rasperry blower! :confused: :eek: :D:p

that's a classic Bob! cheers for that lol :D :cool:

scaltura
28-04-2010, 03:16 PM
GANGSTALKING is very alive and real , conected to comon purpose , police etc , and this is in the uk !!!

the main aim of it is to isolate the victim , ruin their life , even kill them .

i have fallen foul to this , and as for comments of being paranoid \/ get with the programe

best thing to do , which is advice that i have been given by a very well respected truther actavist , was if you don't play their game they don't have a victim .


but this can go on for years

i feel for the op , i really do

and for any of the stalkers out there , get it right up ye's \/

stazi goverment is here , it's all part of the plan

1984 - east germany , call it what you want but you cannot deny these things go on

and shame on the posters who have ridiculed the op by calling him paranoid , maybe one day it will happen to you , then you will look back , oh yes you will look back .

i have spoken to many people regarding this

4 weeks ago , RUNLIKEHELL !!! did i not ?

amoungst other things i discussed with him , low and behold other things came of things i said , so please runlikehell , back me up on this , not that i need back up as i firmly know what is going on inside my mind .

PEACE

icarus
28-04-2010, 03:47 PM
this stuff goes on. whether or not the OP is getting it i can't say, but the stakes here are huge and they have been running the show for a long time

if it happened to me i'd confront anyone i suspected, just walk right up. if too many drive or move away when you try to do that, you're not being paranoid. if they stay and look at you like you're nuts, you probably are

litmus test, confront the fuckers and see what happens, or try to follow them back. tell people your fears first though, so if anythign happens, at least a few more sheep will start to question their reality when you disappear

scaltura
28-04-2010, 04:10 PM
i have ignored , ignored as much as i possibly can , i have written loads down incase of any event , i would confront them yeah , but the phycological damage that they leave takes time to heal and to gain your own true personal mental strength back .

i could easily fight them physicaly , but that is not me , nor is it the answer .

karma will be best in time , time is only time !!

the phycological effects is to try and drive you to suicide , make you out as mad

when all the time it is they who are the true pychopathics

sad world but true

and to all the doubters , have a think to yourselfs , this is a no brainer

WAS 9/11 AN INSIDE JOB ????

anything is possible , just because you have not suffered , doesn't mean it does not happen .

go do some research

comon purpose , and google gangstalking , many sites are availible to research

PEACE

paloem
28-04-2010, 06:22 PM
I read this with great care, being careful not to form opinions or judements and to avoid mis-reading the detail.
They sometimes set up these jobs to get people to have nervous breakdowns, even to trick you into killing someone so they can put you on the news and use your stroy to sell psychiatric drugs and to help with new laws.
In the UK we had the paranoid scitsophrenic that hadn't taken medication for nearly two years who flips out all of a sudden and runs amoke with a knife.
I called it the "Phantom knife man of Old London Town" to pararhase the Two Ronnies "Phantom Rasperry blower of Old London Town", because the whole story was a joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1oKlJpDZPg&feature=related

They may have had an agent do the knife atacks, but they ran the same stroy too many times without changing it very much.
It was simply a false flag operation to promote the fraud of psychiatry.

But why bother with the Target Individual in this case?

It seems that they want to make this type of thing part of society.
Like it was in East Germany where 1 in 4 people were in the secret police.
The bright young things on the Alex Jones social network were so disillusioned when I pointed out that they were more likley to be sectioned for mental health that framed as terrorists or put in the trendy new FEMA camps.

If they told said they were reptiles then it was in the hope you would repeat the admission to a doctor as then you would be damned.

But that seems obvious.

good post bob..... keep up the good work :)

mmac900
28-04-2010, 06:37 PM
So they are spending tens of thousands of $ just to fuck with you? Do you honestly think your this important? Get over yourself and stop being paranoid. Also, as someone else said, stop smoking weed.

jakemaverick
28-04-2010, 08:38 PM
these things really do happen, another story in the sig....

fishonwheels
30-04-2010, 01:33 PM
So they are spending tens of thousands of $ just to fuck with you? Do you honestly think your this important? Get over yourself and stop being paranoid. Also, as someone else said, stop smoking weed.

You went to high school, right?

Kids don't need money to fuck with you, and some people never grow up, though they do refine and improve their techniques.

If you wonder how people could have the will to do this to others you must've grown up in a bubble up in pleasantville or else be such a good person there's never been a tint of darkness in your heart.

People do have the will to gang up on others, to spread rumours, to gossip, to provoke, to belong to a group, to keep someone down, to mob, to harass, to smear, and to make someone out to look crazy. It happens everyday.

The targets are usually no one too "important" or else they'd be protected, just assasinated, or would have the channels to expose the mob.

It's called an easy target, probably someone who drew attention to himself in the wrong way, maybe by having a big mouth or being seen as a troublemaker or whatever.

Now we've established the will part.

The way is easy, a few well heeled or well connected folks in the right places to put the word out, people are always looking to do them favors anyways.

I'll repeat if this Stefan Fobes is as connected as he says he is what's stopping a wealthy and powerful family from keeping tabs on their children?

Take it one step further ever heard of honor killing? What's man capable of and why?

For the rest of us though, without knowing it we might've just pissed off a few well positioned folks who then wanted revenge.

bob_jones
30-04-2010, 04:17 PM
My car passed the MOT!!!

Horray, it is 12 years old!!!

When it was MOTd I watched and saw the mechanic check that the rear lights were sat properly.

They were, I had personally taken them off and WD40d around the bulbs as a gang stalker had been undoing them in the night to let water into the boot of the car.

You see there is irony here.

If you seat them properly they are done up and can not physically come to be unseated by 8mm so water gets in unless someone comes and physically tampers with them.

So the only conclusion a rational mind concerned with reality can make is that someone has tampered with the seating of the rear lights of the car in the night.

But it is that very conclusion that is the only realistic one that a gang stalker will say is a paranoid delusion.

That is the point of gang stalking, to be able to potray people as mentally ill when they are not in order to underminde their righteous cursades against government corruption and murder.

Since the MOT the sunroof seal has been unseated again however.

Really the forgot all about poring water in my car while I was on holiday and decided to start again in October 2009 when I went for a run around the resevoir, it was a fine day and the rear near side foot well was filled with water when I got back, splashed up the sides to prove it was poured by someone whith the key to my car.

All to do with the Prince of Wales wanting to project his mental illness on to me.

William the fourth's heirs to the throne were usurped and locked in the Tower of London, they promised not to claim the throne and by the time Queen Victoria died 60 years had passed.

But his descendents can legally claim the throne ahead of Prince Charles.

That is why the murderd Lady Diana, to keep it secret.

I don't see how poring water in the car or giving indecent fabricated photos to the chip shops can undermine that.

It makes them look paranoid about the message and wraps it in kudos and credibility!!!

paloem
30-04-2010, 04:44 PM
hey bob . your vids are great . sometimes older cars get leaks and sun roofs always get them, they are a nightmare to figure out where its coming from . maybe its time to look in the autotrader . i believe your story but dont let them get you down its probably not who you think it is,he maybe has a duty to you , if you are who you say you are there will be people protecting you, so just take it in your stride everythings got its own time. peace out :)

martg
30-04-2010, 05:41 PM
My car passed the MOT!!!

Horray, it is 12 years old!!!

When it was MOTd I watched and saw the mechanic check that the rear lights were sat properly.

They were, I had personally taken them off and WD40d around the bulbs as a gang stalker had been undoing them in the night to let water into the boot of the car.

You see there is irony here.

If you seat them properly they are done up and can not physically come to be unseated by 8mm so water gets in unless someone comes and physically tampers with them.

So the only conclusion a rational mind concerned with reality can make is that someone has tampered with the seating of the rear lights of the car in the night.

But it is that very conclusion that is the only realistic one that a gang stalker will say is a paranoid delusion.

That is the point of gang stalking, to be able to potray people as mentally ill when they are not in order to underminde their righteous cursades against government corruption and murder.

Since the MOT the sunroof seal has been unseated again however.

Really the forgot all about poring water in my car while I was on holiday and decided to start again in October 2009 when I went for a run around the resevoir, it was a fine day and the rear near side foot well was filled with water when I got back, splashed up the sides to prove it was poured by someone whith the key to my car.

All to do with the Prince of Wales wanting to project his mental illness on to me.

William the fourth's heirs to the throne were usurped and locked in the Tower of London, they promised not to claim the throne and by the time Queen Victoria died 60 years had passed.

But his descendents can legally claim the throne ahead of Prince Charles.

That is why the murderd Lady Diana, to keep it secret.

I don't see how poring water in the car or giving indecent fabricated photos to the chip shops can undermine that.

It makes them look paranoid about the message and wraps it in kudos and credibility!!!

Hi Bob, this might be a stupid question, but do you have access to a secure lock-up or garage where you can keep your car?

the reason I ask is that these scum will not stop at harassment (a certain gangstalking victim recently was found dead by a railway line despite the fact that everyone who knew him said he was not suicidal and was adamant about not giving up)

I don't mean to worry you but there is the possibility that if they are tampering with your car, then they could go a step further and mess with the brakes or something.

paloem
06-03-2011, 12:11 AM
bumpy bumpy