Psychopaths

[god bomb]

Alright, I'm very intrigued by what I've read on this forum, but from what I gather it's impossible to be a true freeman unless you are a psychopath. Or without being what the PTB classify as a psychopath. And I know this will piss a lot of you off just by using the term psychopath but I've learned not to censor my thoughts, in the same way we don't like any of our freedoms to be censored by bullshit laws.

And one more thing, let me make clear I do not mean psychopath as in serial killer. Just a person who lives entirely on impulse, without all of the other jargon. Strictly a person living on impulse.

So despite laws and all, like they will and do, are psychopaths the only true freemen? And is it almost impossible for those with the ability to put off reward to actually live up to the philosophy freemen live by? And is this one of the main reasons the PTB maintain control? They are psychopaths?

Maybe it's possible to train your mind to keep a perfect balance. I really don't know. I'm just looking for opinions.

And maybe we once were all "psychopaths" until they took control and put a negative spin on it. And maybe we still have that complete freedom deep down inside of us, but are afraid? I dunno, opinions?

[kale]

Alright, I'm very intrigued by what I've read on this forum, but from what I gather it's impossible to be a true freeman unless you are a psychopath. Or without being what the PTB classify as a psychopath. And I know this will piss a lot of you off just by using the term psychopath but I've learned not to censor my thoughts, in the same way we don't like any of our freedoms to be censored by bullshit laws.

And one more thing, let me make clear I do not mean psychopath as in serial killer. Just a person who lives entirely on impulse, without all of the other jargon. Strictly a person living on impulse.

So despite laws and all, like they will and do, are psychopaths the only true freemen? And is it almost impossible for those with the ability to put off reward to actually live up to the philosophy freemen live by? And is this one of the main reasons the PTB maintain control? They are psychopaths?

Maybe it's possible to train your mind to keep a perfect balance. I really don't know. I'm just looking for opinions.

And maybe we once were all "psychopaths" until they took control and put a negative spin on it. And maybe we still have that complete freedom deep down inside of us, but are afraid? I dunno, opinions?

After reading that I am questioning your mental ability to process information.

Oh and I don't mean mental ability as in your a kiddy fucking pedo,

just in the over use of the word psycho implies your obsessed with it.


What are you on about to begin with? Everyone lives on impulse, problem, reaction, solution.

"Train your mind to keep a perfect balance'' of what?

Dopamine? Serotonin?

No , free PEOPLE AND humans are not psychos......

[tom bombadil]

Hullo Gay bomb.

I think that you have missed thwe point here.

Being a Free man is not so much 'living a free lifestyle', Its living a lifestyle away from an organisation that wishes to control you rather than help you run the day to day things in your life.

I still obey the rules, but they are the rules that make sense, and not those that have been implimented to generate cash from the user of the rules. For example; I am happy to give money (in the form of a donation of cash in tax form) to look after the lights in the streets to enable me to see. But when they decide to cut off those lights I can and will stop my donation. Also; I am happy to drive slowly on a busy road, but if I happen to go too fast by mistake, I dont want to be fined, I want to be told by a contientious (spulling?) observer that I am going too fast for the road conditions. Thank you for telling me, I will slow down.

This is not living on impulse, its me living by the rules that were told to me by my dad. They make sense to me so I apply them. As time changes I might change them.

Not pissed off by the way :) So happy xmas and a fantastic new year to you.


Tom.

[tracker]

Alright, I'm very intrigued by what I've read on this forum, but from what I gather it's impossible to be a true freeman unless you are a psychopath. Or without being what the PTB classify as a psychopath. And I know this will piss a lot of you off just by using the term psychopath but I've learned not to censor my thoughts, in the same way we don't like any of our freedoms to be censored by bullshit laws.

And one more thing, let me make clear I do not mean psychopath as in serial killer. Just a person who lives entirely on impulse, without all of the other jargon. Strictly a person living on impulse.

So despite laws and all, like they will and do, are psychopaths the only true freemen? And is it almost impossible for those with the ability to put off reward to actually live up to the philosophy freemen live by? And is this one of the main reasons the PTB maintain control? They are psychopaths?

Maybe it's possible to train your mind to keep a perfect balance. I really don't know. I'm just looking for opinions.

And maybe we once were all "psychopaths" until they took control and put a negative spin on it. And maybe we still have that complete freedom deep down inside of us, but are afraid? I dunno, opinions?

Psychopaths ?
Hhm , yes the raw core of the busniness world and what makes people better busniness men / women . It's well known fact .
It is also the raw core of the political world .

sounds about right to me .
other than being psychopathic , bloodlines help too .:cool:

[energi]

well, I became psycopathic (or at least diagnosed as being such) after reading "The Biggest Secret" as my first Icke book - got me all paranoid and shit :-/

[tracker]

well, I became psycopathic (or at least diagnosed as being such) after reading "The Biggest Secret" as my first Icke book - got me all paranoid and shit :-/

UTTER CRAP !

being a psychopath does not make you delusional / harmfull or dangerouse , parranoid or ill and no book is to blame for your ( apparent ) changes !

you changed you view , accept that responsability and stop blaming others .

its the biggest coppout explination ive heard in my life .



get a grip .

[energi]

UTTER CRAP !

being a psychopath does not make you delusional / harmfull or dangerouse , parranoid or ill and no book is to blame for your ( apparent ) changes !

you changed you view , accept that responsability and stop blaming others .

its the biggest coppout explination ive heard in my life .



get a grip .

What else am I supposed to say then? After all, it WAS after reading through the black magic/reptilians/ritual sacrifices that I became paranoid over things... also, a whole vacation was ruined due to me over-analyzing statues/symbology in FRANCE (Reeks of NWO/Occult symbolism).

Fuck, I get easily scared by scary movies too.

So please, if not knowing me personally, do NOT freak out over stuff that I write. The last thing I want on these forums are "enemies":rolleyes:.

EDIT: I also did things that I - from a spiritual viewpoint - would never do, ine 24 hours I stole shit and was VERY close to commiting suicide.

[particlezen]

What else am I supposed to say then? After all, it WAS after reading through the black magic/reptilians/ritual sacrifices that I became paranoid over things... also, a whole vacation was ruined due to me over-analyzing statues/symbology in FRANCE (Reeks of NWO/Occult symbolism).

Fuck, I get easily scared by scary movies too.

So please, if not knowing me personally, do NOT freak out over stuff that I write. The last thing I want on these forums are "enemies":rolleyes:.

EDIT: I also did things that I - from a spiritual viewpoint - would never do, ine 24 hours I stole shit and was VERY close to commiting suicide.

you're talking about psychosis, which is not the same thing at all.

[energi]

you're talking about psychosis, which is not the same thing at all.

Oh fk ><

I got the terms wrong then, apoligizing for that:p

[god bomb]

Hi guys.

Firstly, I don't lack the ability to process information. And no I am not obsessed with the word "psychopath." Now that that's cleared up, let me clarify my intentions starting this thread.

It wasn't a statement of my beliefs. When I read the words "freeman on the land" and a lot of the posts in this forum it it seems the end goal is to completely separate yourselves from the laws of society, which understandably you do not think are fair. I don't think they are fair either, because as we all know, everything is relative. By nature any enforced man made law is unfair, unless it is enforced on the man that created it.

Maybe by using the term psychopath I confused a few of you. The reason I used this specific word is because it basically describes a person who does not live by anyones influence but their own. Which in my opinion is a blessing and a curse. And I'm not trying to say true freemen would go around raping and killing people because they feel like it. Again my use of the term psychopath was entirely hyperbolic. I was just looking for your input on what you think you will do when you achieve true freeman status. And if you think it's realistic to achieve this goal in a completely "lawful" manner. Because I sure don't. The PTB would obviously rather you dead.

[lesactive]

One of the primary characteristics of a psychopath is the lack or inability to express or feel love while a primary characteristic of a freeman must necessarily (in order to be social as opposed to societal) live from a basis of love and respect for themselves and others. This will NOT work without it.

No one is an island, except for the psychopath because (s)he'll have nothing to do with us; the rest are one.

[rob menard]

It wasn't a statement of my beliefs. When I read the words "freeman on the land" and a lot of the posts in this forum it it seems the end goal is to completely separate yourselves from the laws of society, which understandably you do not think are fair. I don't think they are fair either, because as we all know, everything is relative. By nature any enforced man made law is unfair, unless it is enforced on the man that created it.

One of the basics of Freemanery which you have touched on here is the fact we are not anti-social at all, the opposite is in fact true. We desire a true and proper society. You spoke of 'separating from the laws of society' but the Freeman perspective is that there is no real legally existing society. If there is a 'society' with 'laws' then it must exist legally and therefore have a legal name. Can you tell me the name of the society you referred to? If you cannot can you accept there is in fact no 'society' to which you are a member?

If you accept the status quo and talk about the rules of your society, and then are incapable of naming your society, then from my perspective your position is that you are happy not being a member of any legally existing society and yet are happy having the rules created by a society to which you do not belong being imposed upon you.

Listen close: This is one of the major ways in which they deceive you. You will stand and fight and attack on behalf of your 'society' yet it does not even exist. Theirs however does.

Let us test who is a psychopath or a sociopath. Those who are not a member of a society are sociopaths. If you can name your society, and share with us it's legal name, you are not sociopathic. If you cannot then you are, for you have chosen to not be a member of an actual society. If however you question those who do desire to be a part of an actual society, whilst simultaneously denigrate them for that desire and claim their actions are an abandonment of your non-existent society, then you would appear to be delusional as well.

A Freeman is not antisocial. Those who do not desire to be a Freeman, and thus are happy not being a part of a society, apparently are.

Rob

[tracker]

What else am I supposed to say then? After all, it WAS after reading through the black magic/reptilians/ritual sacrifices that I became paranoid over things... also, a whole vacation was ruined due to me over-analyzing statues/symbology in FRANCE (Reeks of NWO/Occult symbolism).

Fuck, I get easily scared by scary movies too.

So please, if not knowing me personally, do NOT freak out over stuff that I write. The last thing I want on these forums are "enemies":rolleyes:.

EDIT: I also did things that I - from a spiritual viewpoint - would never do, ine 24 hours I stole shit and was VERY close to commiting suicide.

im not freeking out , the truth be said you are ! you have admitted it !

again you back up why an apparent book made you parranoid , made you anylise everything too much . you have even admitted that frightening movies freek you out .

and by the way , just because you and i have ( appeard to ) have crossed words , it does not make us enemies and in my eyes never will . i think thats cool .:cool:

what i dont like seeing is other people blame a simple book for something that was already in there , just waiting to come out .

if you were able to see and admit that these things were already part of you before you read the book half your problems would just fade away in time .

i know what its like .

i had billions of coincedences happen in my life .

when i read one of david ickes books called "children of the matrix" i saw so many things in there i could have sworn at the time that he had some intimate knowledge of the whole of my life . i didnt know how he got it , but some how the coincidences were too detailed and too coincidental for it just to be a book . ( in my eyes ).

when i 1st picked it up i couldnt put it down for 4 days in a row . in that time i didnt sleep once .
after that i sleeped for days , and after that i was sick for weeks .( 2 ).

but all my muck ups , have nothing to do with that book !
if i allow the info in that book to control me and my actions , thats my fault , not the books or the authurs .
if i muck up , its my responsability , not the books .

if any one is so easily controlled that a simple peace of info can control their actions to such a point , that the owner and creator of those actions refuses responsability over their actions , then they need a DR / hopsital and constant monitoring and guidance from a profesional .every day !

these are just the facts .

this is why i take personal responsability for all my actions , because they belong to me , not a book or a film or what to some one said . this is what im trying to say to you , thats all .

peace be with you .:cool:

[god bomb]

One of the basics of Freemanery which you have touched on here is the fact we are not anti-social at all, the opposite is in fact true. We desire a true and proper society. You spoke of 'separating from the laws of society' but the Freeman perspective is that there is no real legally existing society. If there is a 'society' with 'laws' then it must exist legally and therefore have a legal name. Can you tell me the name of the society you referred to? If you cannot can you accept there is in fact no 'society' to which you are a member?

If you accept the status quo and talk about the rules of your society, and then are incapable of naming your society, then from my perspective your position is that you are happy not being a member of any legally existing society and yet are happy having the rules created by a society to which you do not belong being imposed upon you.

Listen close: This is one of the major ways in which they deceive you. You will stand and fight and attack on behalf of your 'society' yet it does not even exist. Theirs however does.

Let us test who is a psychopath or a sociopath. Those who are not a member of a society are sociopaths. If you can name your society, and share with us it's legal name, you are not sociopathic. If you cannot then you are, for you have chosen to not be a member of an actual society. If however you question those who do desire to be a part of an actual society, whilst simultaneously denigrate them for that desire and claim their actions are an abandonment of your non-existent society, then you would appear to be delusional as well.

A Freeman is not antisocial. Those who do not desire to be a Freeman, and thus are happy not being a part of a society, apparently are.

Rob

Finally some input relating to my question(s). I understand exactly what you're saying. In my mind I don't live in a society. I live in a cage built of bullshit laws trying to screw me over and hold me down in many different ways. In no way do I consider myself psychopathic/sociopathic, I just consider myself as someone who would like to be part of a community that is built on trust and understanding rather than forceful manipulation and fear tactics.

This post was intended to get input in relation to my association of freemen with psycho/sociopathic personalities, because in certain ways they are similar. It was just a random yet valid idea I had that I thought was relevant and thought provoking enough to post.

[amandaooo]

Don't trust anyone who does not like pets. That's my general rule of thumb for rooting out the psychopaths from "the others".

Trust them less if it turns out they have snakes and/or iguanas for pets - they love "feeding time" more than their benefactors.

Anyone who used to have solitary interests as a child like trainspotting should also have their card marked.

If a person owns a budgie and is under fifty, regard them as highly dangerous.

If a person owns a budgie and is over fifty, likewise.

If a person owns a rabbit and can eat one in a restaurant, leave immediately.

If a person owns a goldfish and eats fish and chips, treat them with the upmost suspicion.


I should mention I am a clinical psychiatrist and that is my way of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

[god bomb]

Don't trust anyone who does not like pets. That's my general rule of thumb for rooting out the psychopaths from "the others".

Trust them less if it turns out they have snakes and/or iguanas for pets - they love "feeding time" more than their benefactors.

Anyone who used to have solitary interests as a child like trainspotting should also have their card marked.

If a person owns a budgie and is under fifty, regard them as highly dangerous.

If a person owns a budgie and is over fifty, likewise.

If a person owns a rabbit and can eat one in a restaurant, leave immediately.

If a person owns a goldfish and eats fish and chips, treat them with the upmost suspicion.


I should mention I am a clinical psychiatrist and that is my way of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

That you are a clinical psychiatrist, and see things with such simplicity, well, it really scares me. I get the idea but come on, it's like saying a person is a criminal because they are black.

edit: If your post was meant to be humorous, just let me know. It wasn't really clear.

[amandaooo]

Yes only a bit of "humour". I should perhaps use emoticoms more.:)

[stinker]

Yes only a bit of "humour". I should perhaps use emoticoms more.:)

Had me in stitches!

[lesactive]

... the budgie people thing is spot on :eek:

[god bomb]

I don't even know what a friggin' budgie is!

[lordzoma]

Having fish is good freng shui.

Eating fish is healthy, particularly for your brain.

How is this suspicious?

Or is it total bollocks.

[sukyspook]

One of the basics of Freemanery which you have touched on here is the fact we are not anti-social at all, the opposite is in fact true. We desire a true and proper society. You spoke of 'separating from the laws of society' but the Freeman perspective is that there is no real legally existing society. If there is a 'society' with 'laws' then it must exist legally and therefore have a legal name. Can you tell me the name of the society you referred to? If you cannot can you accept there is in fact no 'society' to which you are a member?

If you accept the status quo and talk about the rules of your society, and then are incapable of naming your society, then from my perspective your position is that you are happy not being a member of any legally existing society and yet are happy having the rules created by a society to which you do not belong being imposed upon you.

Listen close: This is one of the major ways in which they deceive you. You will stand and fight and attack on behalf of your 'society' yet it does not even exist. Theirs however does.

Let us test who is a psychopath or a sociopath. Those who are not a member of a society are sociopaths. If you can name your society, and share with us it's legal name, you are not sociopathic. If you cannot then you are, for you have chosen to not be a member of an actual society. If however you question those who do desire to be a part of an actual society, whilst simultaneously denigrate them for that desire and claim their actions are an abandonment of your non-existent society, then you would appear to be delusional as well.

A Freeman is not antisocial. Those who do not desire to be a Freeman, and thus are happy not being a part of a society, apparently are.

Rob

Well said Rob, you said exactly what I was going to say.

I am right at the beginning of the Freeman process mainly for the two reasons I've highlighted in your post.

Even before I become a fully fledged Freeman I take full responsibility for myself and my family and so seeing the irresponsibility of the so called 'system' I have no option but to lawfully take back my complete sovereignty and 'begin again' so to speak, if that makes sense.

In the UK the red shield gang are probably about to get their wish of negative interest....this is at best incompetent and at worst, criminally treasonous, however my so called friends and neighbours still don't 'get it' in that we have no option but to walk away from such a scam and create a system that will REALLY be of, for and by the people.

Whatever '....paths' people may think Freemen are - imho it's 'the system' that suffers from EVERY kind of '....path'. It takes a fully conscious, intelligent, compassionate and hence empathic, authentic human being to be truly free. I wrote this on new years eve which sums it up:

"Peace lives in the very heart of those who desire it, as does love. Consciously living with real love and peace in one's heart creates compassion and empathy which denotes the birth of an authentic Human Being (imho of course)."

God bless Rob and chums.

[amandaooo]

But with feathers.