Rik Clay's Death

[free_at_last]

Does anyone know what happened to Rik Clay? How did he die?

I read some place it was suicide. it seems to me someone so young with such a passion for research and new discovery would do this.

[notthisshitagain]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35596

The official statement was that it was a suicide... but somehow, I still have trouble believing that.

[Anders Lindman]

:eek: Is Rik Clay dead? I'm very sorry to hear that. His blog was shut down and he stopped researching I think. Did he suffer from some disease?

[notthisshitagain]

:eek: Is Rik Clay dead? I'm very sorry to hear that. His blog was shut down and he stopped researching I think. Did he suffer from some disease?

Apparently he was fine and dandy... a few days before it happened he seemed upbeat.

[Anders Lindman]

Apparently he was fine and dandy... a few days before it happened he seemed upbeat.

And he looked healthy.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/06jun/RICR-080608.jpg

[notthisshitagain]

Yeah, I know... I *still* can't believe it...

[Anders Lindman]

Rik did some research on the Mayan calendar in connection to consciousness and the year 2012. So did Ian Lungold who also died even though he looked healthy. That could of course probably be just a coincidence but anyway.

[notthisshitagain]

Maybe it is coincidence, but I still think something fishy is going on. Or maybe I'm letting my imagination run wild? (Even more, that is.)

[Anders Lindman]

Could it be that people like Rik Clay and Ian Lungold get too hooked into a certain kind of research and they get mentally ill and then physically ill so that the brain and the body can't take it anymore? But they didn't appear overly crazy or mentally ill. Unless they quickly got worse and then died. :confused:

[notthisshitagain]

Could it be that people like Rik Clay and Ian Lungold get too hooked into a certain kind of research and they get mentally ill and then physically ill so that the brain and the body can't take it anymore? But they didn't appear overly crazy or mentally ill. Unless they quickly got worse and then died. :confused:

Actually I was thinking about something like that, but who knows for sure.. wonder if anyone else has another theory too..

[hordeari]

maybe some cia/mi5/6/other/ mind control op? suicide all of a sudden, he was open an minded guy (psychologically stable?), so comitting suicide kind.a fishy, and because of having problms with gf and college ....hmm..

[Anders Lindman]

Actually I was thinking about something like that, but who knows for sure.. wonder if anyone else has another theory too..

The only thing I have found is that Rik briefly said in an interview "I'm sick of thinking". Maybe that was a reference to some mental problem he had? But I'm speculating wildly here.

[Anders Lindman]

I don't believe there was some conspiracy behind Rik's death, but to have a very open mind, then if he was killed, why was he killed?

One thing that Rik said was that princess Diana represented Isis and her son represents the sun, or the Christ. As I understand it, Rik said that Prince William is the new Christ. Did Rik come too close to the truth? :eek:

The poem "The Second Coming" by William Blake:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre,
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

[armoured_amazon]

Um, William is not Christ.

[Anders Lindman]

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

If I remember correctly, Rik said that the new Bethlehem is in England. :eek:

[armoured_amazon]

...

You are getting carried away lol

[Anders Lindman]

Um, William is not Christ.

Check out the poem The Second Coming. I think Yeats wrote about the anti-Christ. :eek:

[Anders Lindman]

...

You are getting carried away lol

Yes, I don't mean any disrespect for Rik. I'm having a bit of fun speculating.

[armoured_amazon]

Check out the poem The Second Coming. I think Yeats wrote about the anti-Christ. :eek:

LOL @ that smiley.

I write songs with iconic reference. So do Depeche Mode. And Marilyn Manson. And etc etc. It's creativity, not fact. I don't know enough about Yeats to know whether he was prophesying but I don't imagine he was.

Perhaps William may be instrumental in the NWO which as a whole is an anti-Christ. But Christ is eternal and is the same now as before and ahead.

:)

[Anders Lindman]

I don't know enough about Yeats to know whether he was prophesying but I don't imagine he was.


I was actually searching for William Blake but came across this poem by Yeats. I have seen this poem before and thought it fitted well into Rik's story about prince William. :D (even though I don't mean any disrespect for prince William either)

[armoured_amazon]

Yes, I don't mean any disrespect for Rik. I'm having a bit of fun speculating.

I was actually searching for William Blake but came across this poem by Yeats. I have seen this poem before and thought it fitted well into Rik's story about prince William. :D (even though I don't mean any disrespect for prince William either)

LOL speculating is fun. :D

[Anders Lindman]

LOL speculating is fun. :D

Yeah, I feel like Dan Brown writing The DaVinci Code or something. :D

[armoured_amazon]

Yeah, I feel like Dan Brown writing The DaVinci Code or something. :D

Moar! MOARRRRR!!!!! :D

[Anders Lindman]

Moar! MOARRRRR!!!!! :D

Princess Diana represented Isis according to Rik. Diana's perfume brand is: Isis. Diana was killed in Paris. Paris = Par-is = a pair of 'is' = two 'is' = Isis.

[armoured_amazon]

Princess Diana represented Isis according to Rik. Diana's perfume brand is: Isis. Diana was killed in Paris. Paris = Par-is = a pair of 'is' = two 'is' = Isis.

:eek:

MOAR!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Anders Lindman]

Rik mentioned Matthew Delooze. Guess what. His website is down! :confused:

http://www.matthewdelooze.co.uk/maintenance.php

[Anders Lindman]

And Matthew Delooze's blog is down too. Just like what happened to Rik's blog:

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/

[simplify]

Does anyone know how long matthews site has been down........I hope & pray that this is not the same scenario as Rik's website:eek:

[haukipesukone]

Um, William is not Christ.

I've heard he's the anti-Christ.

And I think it makes sense.


And no I don't have to accept Jesus as my savior to believe in the existence of the anti-Christ.

[lightgiver]

Does anyone know how long matthews site has been down........I hope & pray that this is not the same scenario as Rik's website:eek:

http://www.oneballradio.com/node/145

[steevo]

Are there any videos which show Rik clay cos i wanna see what he properly looks like (ie not a photo) ?

[Anders Lindman]

Rik said that the first step in Project Blue Beam is a staged economic disaster. Holy smolder! What we see today could in fact be the beginning of such economic crisis.

[Anders Lindman]

Rik said an interesting thing about the 911 truth movement. He said that he himself a few years ago ran around telling everybody that 911 was an inside job, until he realized that that was exactly what the manipulators wanted him to do! I thought that that was a pretty clever observation.

On the other hand, we also need to learn about false flag attacks etc, and we need to spread that information to other people. I think Alex Jones for example is doing an extremely important job. At the same time, we should perhaps not get stuck in the truth movement forever. Tricky. Maybe we could look at it as different levels of 'waking up'. First we fight the New World Order. Then we realize that that fight is exactly what they want us to be endlessly occupied with.

The best thing to do is perhaps to both fight the New World Order and at the same time not be completely consumed by that kind of fight.

[steevo]

Rik said an interesting thing about the 911 truth movement. He said that he himself a few years ago ran around telling everybody that 911 was an inside job, until he realized that that was exactly what the manipulators wanted him to do! I thought that that was a pretty clever observation.

On the other hand, we also need to learn about false flag attacks etc, and we need to spread that information to other people. I think Alex Jones for example is doing an extremely important job. At the same time, we should perhaps not get stuck in the truth movement forever. Tricky. Maybe we could look at it as different levels of 'waking up'. First we fight the New World Order. Then we realize that that fight is exactly what they want us to be endlessly occupied with.

The best thing to do is perhaps to both fight the New World Order and at the same time not be completely consumed by that kind of fight.

Why does he think that exposing 911 was what they WANTED him to do ?

I dont want to offend anyone here and I may get accused of being paranoid but is Rik Clay REALLY dead and did he even exist ? :o lol sorry I know that sounds totally a stupid thing to say but has anyone seen a video of him or met him? I'm sure that there are plenty of vids of him but I havent seen one yet.

[Anders Lindman]

Why does he think that exposing 911 was what they WANTED him to do ?

I dont want to offend anyone here and I may get accused of being paranoid but is Rik Clay REALLY dead and did he even exist ? :o lol sorry I know that sounds totally a stupid thing to say but has anyone seen a video of him or met him? I'm sure that there are plenty of vids of him but I havent seen one yet.

Here are four interviews with him:

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=4789

[Anders Lindman]

Project Bluebeam is interesting. Could be a hoax though. If it is real I think it has more to do with staging an economic crisis and other things that will make it easier and faster to implement new global laws, regulations and trade agreements than staging some religious or alien laser show in the sky. ;):D

[steevo]

Here are four interviews with him:

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=4789

I want videos though. those appear to be MP3's. I have listened to a few of his interviews already, but I wanna see what he was really like in person by seeing him talking.

[Anders Lindman]

I want videos though. those appear to be MP3's. I have listened to a few of his interviews already, but I wanna see what he was really like in person by seeing him talking.

I haven't found any videos with Rik. I found this interview (audio) with Ian Crane talking about Rik's death:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/09sep/RICR-080911.php

[haukipesukone]

Why does he think that exposing 911 was what they WANTED him to do ?


Think of Michael Moore. They want us to know about 911 to create confusion. At first they used 911 as excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, and the patriot act. Now they no longer need 911 for that purpose, now they are using it create civil unrest and dissent. I think that was their plan from the beginning.

[steevo]

Think of Michael Moore. They want us to know about 911 to create confusion. At first they used 911 as excuse to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, and the patriot act. Now they no longer need 911 for that purpose, now they are using it create civil unrest and dissent. I think that was their plan from the beginning.

That COULD be right....maybe. If that is true, I dont think that it was planned that way from the BEGINNING. The cat is out of the bag on 911 and on lots of other subjects.

I see it like this, people are waking up, so the Illuminati bring in their contingency plan for such an event which they knew would eventually come. I could be wrong though. Rik Clay SEEMS to think that 911 was MEANT to be exposed cos they had to bring in the changes by 2012 (in other words they had to do it before a particular date). Which COULD be true...maybe.

Rik Clay was a theorist IMO. Yes he had SOME evidence but he also used theories based on no evidence. Rik was NOT right on everything IMO (but who is right on everything?)
He thinks that the Illuminati (who start wars which kills millions of people) are doing for the do for the benefit of humanity.
I still wanna see some videos of Rik just so that i know that he even existed. I'm sure he DID exist but I just wanna make sure.

[hordeari]

He thinks that the Illuminati (who start wars which kills millions of people) are doing for the do for the benefit of humanity.

i was confused when hearing this theories you just mentioned in some interviews with RC, quite strange, all his research and he comes to very weird conlcusion, illuminati are trying to save us, yeah right cant buy that one

[haukipesukone]

That COULD be right....maybe. If that is true, I dont think that it was planned that way from the BEGINNING. The cat is out of the bag on 911 and on lots of other subjects.

I see it like this, people are waking up, so the Illuminati bring in their contingency plan for such an event which they knew would eventually come. I could be wrong though. Rik Clay SEEMS to think that 911 was MEANT to be exposed cos they had to bring in the changes by 2012 (in other words they had to do it before a particular date). Which COULD be true...maybe.

Rik Clay was a theorist IMO. Yes he had SOME evidence but he also used theories based on no evidence. Rik was NOT right on everything IMO (but who is right on everything?)
He thinks that the Illuminati (who start wars which kills millions of people) are doing for the do for the benefit of humanity.
I still wanna see some videos of Rik just so that i know that he even existed. I'm sure he DID exist but I just wanna make sure.

I don't think as I said in my previous post, because of something Rik said. I don't remember anything he said about 911, except the numbers 9 and 11. I believe as I do, because it simply makes sense to me. I think they planned the truth to be out a lot sooner, perhaps a few years ago, but people are too pig-headed and passive to completely expose 911.

Where did Rik say that Illuminati are doing it's things for the benefit of humanity?

Keep up your research on Rik. I think he existed, but you can never be too certain. I've considered the possibility he was only something used to introduce us to Project Bluebeam. But I prefer to think if him as a fallen hero.

[steevo]

I don't think as I said in my previous post, because of something Rik said. I don't remember anything he said about 911, except the numbers 9 and 11. I believe as I do, because it simply makes sense to me. I think they planned the truth to be out a lot sooner, perhaps a few years ago, but people are too pig-headed and passive to completely expose 911.

Where did Rik say that Illuminati are doing it's things for the benefit of humanity?

Keep up your research on Rik. I think he existed, but you can never be too certain. I've considered the possibility he was only something used to introduce us to Project Bluebeam. But I prefer to think if him as a fallen hero.


Haukipesukone, there are links in the opening post of this thread :-

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29038

[haukipesukone]

Downloading them right now. I've heard them already, but can't hurt to do it again.