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eternal_spirit
06-02-2007, 12:31 AM
If Jesus was the son of God and God created Satan(lucifer) most gifted of the Angels they must be related.
The Book of Revelations is very strange like a Stephen King Horror or Clive Barker read.
God and his host of Angels basically destroy Satan and those who follow him and took the mark of the beast along with most of the earth:confused: (the micro chip maybe?)
That's one F****D up story
If the Christian God of the Bible is a good God why would he kill the people who maybe have no choice of being microchipped. Anway it's just a made up stroy it can't be real can it the Bible?
Afterall like all the Religous books it was written by men so it's not the word of GOD!
eternal_spirit
06-02-2007, 12:35 AM
It's possible the gods written about in the Bible where Aliens so maybe they did exist and still do.
eternal_spirit
06-02-2007, 12:46 AM
Satan was seen as a snake a reptile in the Bible there also known as aliens
It seems Satan wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Bible.
Then we have the Satanic Bible which basically says the ten commandments are to be broken, by doing this it is seen as virtuos to a Satanist. Jesus and Satan two Gods from the same Book?
eternal_spirit
06-02-2007, 12:47 AM
I choose neither.:p
dinachick
07-02-2007, 02:05 AM
I am undecided about this Jesus character. I like the idea of the Da Vinci code theory that he was simply a man who survived the cross who may or may not have done great things, was married to Mary Magdalene, had children. He continued his travels probably known under a different name completely ?Appolonius of Tyena, He was known to have lived in India for a time etc. Or is Jesus simply based on Tammuz and the whole Christian religion is based on the ancient worship of the SUN and the 12 signs of the Zodiac etc. I guess I will find out when it is my time to leave this earth!:D
I found Michael Tsarion's work to be really interesting tying the Bible to the Alien "fallen angels" and what the Garden of Eden really is, Atlantis, the Druids, linking the Pharoahs to Ireland. Check the Mp3's out about Atlantis hours 1 2 and 3 as well as RedIce Radio talkshow in Sweden and Michaels own Website Taroscopes.com.
astral_girl
08-02-2007, 09:45 PM
If Jesus was the son of God and God created Satan(lucifer) most gifted of the Angels they must be related.
The Book of Revelations is very strange like a Stephen King Horror or Clive Barker read.
God and his host of Angels basically destroy Satan and those who follow him and took the mark of the beast along with most of the earth:confused: (the micro chip maybe?)
That's one F****D up story
If the Christian God of the Bible is a good God why would he kill the people who maybe have no choice of being microchipped. Anway it's just a made up stroy it can't be real can it the Bible?
Afterall like all the Religous books it was written by men so it's not the word of GOD!
not sure about that .....jesus was gods son in the flesh.............god created adam and eve too but he wasnt related to them .........he made man in his image.....god created angels...with intent of them doing gods work...........it just happened that the angel lucifer chose to go agaisnt god and all he stands for-plus the many other angels that chose to follow lucifer rather than god...............not sure if im making much sense ,,,,but i agree about the revelations-hard to follow.
about the mark -microchip im just guessing that the folk who are enlightened enough to relise they must not take the mark...will try there hardest to avoid it ect......even if its mandortary and that being the whole point of making a stand -if you belive in jesus enough ect..........because thats the only way you will acsend to heaven...........i pretty much think it will be like survial of the fittest in the future.
astral_girl
08-02-2007, 09:47 PM
its historcally proven that there was a man known as jesus on the earth.:)
I think the answer to this question can be somed up by this quote from Carl Sagan
"SKEPTICAL SCRUTINY IS THE MEANS, IN BOTH SCIENCE & RELIGON,
WHICH DEEP INSIGHTS CAN BE WINNOWED FROM DEEP NONSENCE"
houdini
09-02-2007, 05:49 AM
its historcally proven that there was a man known as jesus on the earth.:)
that would be correct, i know one myself and you pronounce it "hey zeus"
but about the guy who died on a cross, like 100's of other religious identities and was then reborn again 3 days later, it can have doubts placed on it because of the similarities of many many other 'men' who died on a cross,was born of a virgin mother and who had a name Mary.
my question is: which one do we choose to worship, or are they all ref's to the big yellow/orange ball of fire in the sky?
oneofmany
09-02-2007, 08:29 AM
There's a bigger picture than just that in the bible. houdini is on the right track but if you want the stories if the bible to mean anything to you then Jordan Maxwell's your man at http://jordanmaxwell.com/home.html
don't take stories of the bible at face value. look for the true meaning of words and terms and the real themes will rise to the surface.
oneofmany
09-02-2007, 08:33 AM
also follow 2tuff's posts. very informative.
If Jesus was the son of God and God created Satan(lucifer) most gifted of the Angels they must be related.
Lucifer means the lightbringer , jesus was the light of the world .Jesus was associated with the morning star venus , lucifer was associated with the morning star venus as well?Was jesus (HE ZUES) really lucifer the favoured angel and next in line to god before he rebelled after all how many children rebel against their parents !And was anyone else their on the mountain when he fasted forty days and nights and ws tempted by satan with all the wolrds wealth and power , Is not the vatican one of the richest and powerful organisations on the planet .Just some thoughts not my beliefs .Avoid beliefs they can be shattered or defended to the death better to have ideas ,and helathy debate .If the principles of religion were adhered to then we wouldnt have any of this mess in the first place .I think ,therefore i am that that i am .Was god a yorkshireman.:D
anoninnyc
14-02-2007, 08:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dym84Jsgmw4&mode=related&search=
jordan maxwell toxic religion
search for him on youtube lots of good stuff
tinmenace
15-02-2007, 02:01 AM
its historcally proven that there was a man known as jesus on the earth.:)
Yeah this official history and all it's 'historical proof' is not to be taken at face value.
True history is absolutely NOT what's written in the history books.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no proof Jesus ever existed. It's just more symbolism. Dogma to trap your soul and imprison your mind.
If Jesus was the son of God and God created Satan(lucifer) most gifted of the Angels they must be related.
The Book of Revelations is very strange like a Stephen King Horror or Clive Barker read.
God and his host of Angels basically destroy Satan and those who follow him and took the mark of the beast along with most of the earth:confused: (the micro chip maybe?)
That's one F****D up story
If the Christian God of the Bible is a good God why would he kill the people who maybe have no choice of being microchipped. Anway it's just a made up stroy it can't be real can it the Bible?
Afterall like all the Religous books it was written by men so it's not the word of GOD!
http://www.stuartwilde.com/Visions/SW_visions_queen_heaven.htm
stuart wilde has some interesting things to say on the subject , regarding his own visions etc .check it out .The queen of heaven has been linked to diana in recent years what with her death in pont dalma tunnel on the spot where the merovingians fought to the death the loser being the winner really who ascended to heaven to sit onthe right side of god and look over the affairs of mortal man !pont d'alma meaning bridge of souls .The queen of heaven gave birth to a son and the great red dragon attacked her .Now having read some very entertaining thoughts on prince charles being the said anti christ the symbol of the prince of wales is a red dragon , so is it william or harry maybe , (questionable blood line) who is the child .If the mass consciousness thinks in a certain way are we producing these things in order to fulfill previous prophecy wich after all was interpreted by men even if it came from divine sources and are not we the source of the divine , god made man in his own image are we not just thoughts in the mind of god thought creates reality, maybe we are all just what if's unfolding on ourselves . If the christ and anti christ are just 2 sides of the same coin in a dualistic universe then might not whoever it may prove to be takes us in either or both directions , its all a learning curve , maybe god and the devil really are playing chess for our souls. Maybe come 2012 some mayan kid playin his ps 10,000 is so engrossed in the game he forgets 2 put the electric key in the meter and we lose power just at a crucial point :D
joffausy
09-04-2007, 03:42 PM
If Jesus was the son of God and God created Satan(lucifer) most gifted of the Angels they must be related.
:confused: Who is the question directed to the typical icke fan who is suppose to be an athiest and therefore will believe everything you state or is directed to bait christian trolls like myself that might be surfing by in hope to bait them in worthless debate since you have already made up your mind well in advance.
So why bother asking or preaching to the converted do you seek affirmation from your fan club i guess anything that caresses the ego must feel good yeh. :confused:
earthseed
11-04-2007, 08:17 AM
I don't think Icke or people who follow his teachings don't believe in a higher power they see themselves as apart of it. Not some bastard child that didn't make it. The bible is full of encoded knowledge the elites know what it really says. But the regular person? No you know fairytales and how to be a victim that's all. And why you want to be on this forum when you hate David' work is beyond me you might want to ask yourself that.
midwich cuckoo
12-04-2007, 02:58 AM
It's all sun worship, somebody needs to do their homework!. ;)
joffausy
25-04-2007, 03:19 PM
The bible is full of encoded knowledge the elites know what it really says. But the regular person? No you know fairytales and how to be a victim that's all.
It not encoded to me at all what you see and read is what you get plain and simple!.:cool:
It's all sun worship, somebody needs to do their homework!
:cool: Well since there are no orthodox icke fans on this forum i can believe whatever i like. I choose to believe in Jesus Christ as my redemption.
If kissing the dirt before God is not to your Pride filled standards thats your problem, i am not going to convert you!:cool:
lumukanda
25-04-2007, 03:26 PM
orthodox icke fans? please give me definition of an orthodox icke fan.
tinmenace
25-04-2007, 03:27 PM
It not encoded to me at all what you see and read is what you get plain and simple!.:cool:
:cool: Well since there are no orthodox icke fans on this forum i can believe whatever i like. I choose to believe in Jesus Christ as my redemption.
If kissing the dirt before God is not to your Pride filled standards thats your problem, i am not going to convert you!:cool:
So you believe in the teachings of the bible then? That's your right :)
Tell me, if Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel, how did these four people go forth and populate the world without corrupting the DNA? I've never understood that part....?
And that's right in the beginning, so I've never been able to go any further because I'm still stuck on that one little mystery.
joffausy
25-04-2007, 03:37 PM
Tell me, if Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel, how did these four people go forth and populate the world without corrupting the DNA? I've never understood that part....?
Where does it say in Gensis the bloodline wasnt passed to descendents. Because it does maybe you need actually try to read and comprehend gensis in the OT. Ah but i bet you wont right!.
h1s_l0rdsh1p
25-04-2007, 03:49 PM
Where does it say in Gensis the bloodline wasnt passed to descendents. Because it does maybe you need actually try to read and comprehend gensis in the OT. Ah but i bet you wont right!.
Oh now. God provided women out of no where.
You see, while God was busy with Adam and Eve and their children. He completely forgot that he had made humans elsewhere.
So, he was picking favorites and being selfish by giving all of his attention to the middle east?
tinmenace
26-04-2007, 02:02 AM
Where does it say in Gensis the bloodline wasnt passed to descendents. Because it does maybe you need actually try to read and comprehend gensis in the OT. Ah but i bet you wont right!.
Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong, but from what I have read and comprehended, in the beginning God created Adam, and then he created Eve from Adam's rib, and they had two sons - Cain and Abel.
Have I got it right so far?
Ok, and then what? Did Cain and Abel procreate with their mother?
mariag
19-07-2007, 09:34 PM
It not encoded to me at all what you see and read is what you get plain and simple!.:cool:
I am sorry to inform you that what you call the Bilbe is indeed encoded in more ways then ones in fact it is also written in many languages as greek . hebrew , arameic and maybe even more , from differrent time of space and era, somebody definately needs to do homework,
I get deveastated to read statements from people like yourself that is obviouslly under mind control religious prison , brain washed and insecure.,
You should intepret the Bible from word to word and you will find that it is NOT the paradise dreamworld that you " saved" people seem to think it is.
The word Testament for example in Hebrew means literaly "balls" , and we all know what the word balls means ..
testa = testicles = get it?
so the believe of a Jesus from Nazareth[ that didnt exist until he was supposed to be dead, nasareth was not there at that time as it was supposed to have occured] to be Our saviour and deliver us from being domed at armageddon is so obscure and the whole idea lack of concept when you think of it.
Who wants to be saved by a bunch of weighty balls?
:cool: Well since there are no orthodox icke fans on this forum i can believe whatever i like. I choose to believe in Jesus Christ as my redemption.
If kissing the dirt before God is not to your Pride filled standards thats your problem, i am not going to convert you!:cool:
Well you choose to belive in whatever reptile you want but you should read the fact before you babble a lot of crap , the Jesus you talk about is more of a Nefilim then a God , and if he really existed well , that also has to be prooved now doesnt it, i would rather see him as an alien that has come down , like so many others , have a look at old egyptan art and old documents and more artefact and take a deep thought and maybe you start to reconsider what to make of this so called diety that you call jesus christ .
texdallas
19-07-2007, 10:24 PM
I alway find this interesting when thinking about who or what Jesus was or at least how he is presented to us.Would have thought the church might have been a bit more creative
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
lookfar
19-07-2007, 11:05 PM
Well you choose to belive in whatever reptile you want but you should read the fact before you babble a lot of crap , the Jesus you talk about is more of a Nefilim then a God , and if he really existed well , that also has to be prooved now doesnt it, i would rather see him as an alien that has come down , like so many others , have a look at old egyptan art and old documents and more artefact and take a deep thought and maybe you start to reconsider what to make of this so called diety that you call jesus christ .
Hi mariag & welcome to the forum :)
I just thought I'd point out, in case you hadn't noticed, that the user named "joffausy" is banned (as shown under the user ID), so you won't be getting a reply from that user name.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy it here, good to have you onboard :)
mariag
20-07-2007, 09:32 AM
Hi mariag & welcome to the forum :)
I just thought I'd point out, in case you hadn't noticed, that the user named "joffausy" is banned (as shown under the user ID), so you won't be getting a reply from that user name.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy it here, good to have you onboard :)
oh dear but just in case someone else that share this users thought might want to read my point of view well anyway , thank you for youe kind welcome , I like this place already .
Lots of love and devotion here and also declarations of truth :)
I am sure I will enjoy this forum all the time
fuknut
20-07-2007, 11:56 AM
Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong, but from what I have read and comprehended, in the beginning God created Adam, and then he created Eve from Adam's rib, and they had two sons - Cain and Abel.
Have I got it right so far?
Ok, and then what? Did Cain and Abel procreate with their mother?
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synergy777
20-07-2007, 04:15 PM
eden is succeeded by noah/deluge. its also symbolic not literal, we couldn't come from two people, we would all be inbred by now, unless these two had the genetic diversity for everyone. i think it was some colony type of start, eg the angels that came to protect us, some stayed good, others went bad. who knows, the africans/aborginies/pygmies/secluded tribes, as these are the oldest peoples. maybe they came got these, messed about with genetics and then dumped the new models in africa/asia? or we humans have been here for a far longer time than we are told, hence having a huge timescale to adapt.
see if when floods/wars/metrorites happened, only two types of people would survive, those living in seclusion, and the elite with their slaves. so history/data could easily be kept from the masses.
ashyr
20-07-2007, 06:10 PM
It's all sun worship, somebody needs to do their homework!. ;)
yeah apart from the true way of the man.
doesn't tom look stupid, he must know our pile of rocks is the real god.
SA the energy that drives the universe.
TAN the energy that put that force in place
Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong, but from what I have read and comprehended, in the beginning God created Adam, and then he created Eve from Adam's rib, and they had two sons - Cain and Abel.
Have I got it right so far?
Ok, and then what? Did Cain and Abel procreate with their mother?
After cain killed abel and was banished from eden he went east of eden to the land of nod .Interestingly abel was a shepard and cain a farmer veggie versus meat eater it was cain the farmer who killed abel the shepard because he was angry at the lord who favoured ables gift of meat over his own produce , after he was banished to the land of nod the lord put a mark on cain so no one would kill him , anyone who would ,the lord would give 7 times that punishment to .Then cains wife gave him a son called enoch .? cains wife ? where did she come from and all the other inhabitants of the land of nod , or was it all just a crazy dream .The land of nod means sleep here in the uk dont know if it does anywhere else ? anyone :D
thomascovenant
21-07-2007, 03:58 AM
According to a christian that i used to work with, jehova`s witnesses believe that jesus and satan were brothers.
There was NO jesus of Nazareth!
mariag
21-07-2007, 08:29 AM
After cain killed abel and was banished from eden he went east of eden to the land of nod .Interestingly abel was a shepard and cain a farmer veggie versus meat eater it was cain the farmer who killed abel the shepard because he was angry at the lord who favoured ables gift of meat over his own produce , after he was banished to the land of nod the lord put a mark on cain so no one would kill him , anyone who would ,the lord would give 7 times that punishment to .Then cains wife gave him a son called enoch .? cains wife ? where did she come from and all the other inhabitants of the land of nod , or was it all just a crazy dream .The land of nod means sleep here in the uk dont know if it does anywhere else ? anyone :D
The word Nod also means in english to put your head down in agreement:o