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steevo
07-12-2008, 12:31 AM
Why is that song by Fatboy Slim called The Rockafeller Skank ? Anyone know ?

ceti
09-12-2008, 11:23 PM
Could be that the name itself is just a brand and artists will be paid money to use it without them having any know on the representation of it.Example gay z kanye east etc:p

steevo
22-12-2008, 07:49 PM
My guess is that Rockefellar Skank is titled that way because Fatboy Slim is awake and he wanted us to ask the question WHY was it given that title. He also did a song called "Illuminati", and for people who dont know what that means, then they are gonna find out either by discussing it with others or by looking it up on the net.

Fatboy Slim is trying to wake people up in my opinion.

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 08:15 PM
Fatboy Slim is trying to wake people up in my opinion.
Seriously?

The song has the sample "Rock-a-feller" played a few times in the track, but that still doesn't explain why he did it of course.

I'm unsure why he's changed the spelling from Rockefeller either, apart from the very weak pun on "rock a feller". I've met old Norm a couple of times, he's a pretty genuine bloke, but I don't see that he's especially into saving the world.

By the way, see if you recognise this tune...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nohjhe8C2w

Check out the vocal at 2'30" into this:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYa44-bVU4

And the guitar riff comes from John Barry, who also did the James Bond theme:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OfGmvk-3yWI

(I looked up these tunes to see if I could find out where the Rockafeller thing comes from, but I'm none the wiser - still, the tunes are great finds :cool:)

steevo
22-12-2008, 08:24 PM
Seriously?

The song has the sample "Rock-a-feller" played a few times in the track, but that still doesn't explain why he did it of course.

I'm unsure why he's changed the spelling from Rockefeller either, apart from the very weak pun on "rock a feller". I've met old Norm a couple of times, he's a pretty genuine bloke, but I don't see that he's especially into saving the world.



Songwriters are always putting messages in their songs. And if you dont think so then I suggest you wake up. YOU dont THINK that he is "especially into saving the world" because you SAY that you "have met him a couple of times" ? Well that's the mystery solved then :rolleyes: :D
It's EASY to put a message in a song or a title of a song without much effort, so you dont have to be "especially into saving the world" to do it. But if YOU say so, and you reckon to know him PERSONALLY..... ;):p

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 08:30 PM
Songwriters are always putting messages in their songs. And if you dont think so then I suggest you wake up. YOU dont THINK that he is "especially into saving the world" because you SAY that you "have met him a couple of times" ? Well that's the mystery solved then :rolleyes: :D
It's EASY to put a message in a song or a title of a song without much effort, so you dont have to be "especially into saving the world" to do it. But if YOU say so, and you reckon to know him PERSONALLY..... ;):p
Of course I'm not claiming to "know" him, although I'd be surprised if he was into all this stuff, he doesn't come across that way. Robbie Williams however...

And of course it's easy to put messages into songs - it doesn't mean that your interpretation of it is The One True Meaning though... :rolleyes::p

armoured_amazon
22-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Songwriters are always putting messages in their songs.

+1

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 08:42 PM
P.S. Show where I said songwriters didn't put messages into songs. You expressed an opinion that he is trying to "wake people up". I expressed an opinion that he didn't come across that way - but I don't know why he's called it that and neither do you.

Anyway I've been enjoying listening to the songs that he put it together from. :)

steevo
22-12-2008, 08:52 PM
P.S. Show where I said songwriters didn't put messages into songs. You expressed an opinion that he is trying to "wake people up". I expressed an opinion that he didn't come across that way - but I don't know why he's called it that and neither do you.

Anyway I've been enjoying listening to the songs that he put it together from. :)

Well you are basing your opinion on something that has no credibility at all, you SAY that you met him and yet you have not submitted any proof of this to us. And from these SUPPOSED meetings, you have come to the conclusion that he wouldnt put those words in a song for the purpose of planting seeds that could lead to an awakening. Neither of us know the answer, but the evidence is there, that he used the words "Rockefeller" and "Illuminati" in his songs. And I havent met Fatboy Slim but I have been a fan of his since the 80s so I KNOW that he is a deep thinking person and genuine. He aint shallow THAT IS FOR SURE.

steevo
22-12-2008, 08:55 PM
Dreamweaver, when and where did you meet him ?

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 09:09 PM
Dreamweaver, when and where did you meet him ?

Turnmills closing party and backstage at Glasto.

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Well you are basing your opinion on something that has no credibility at all,
Whereas you base yours on what you "think" to be true. And you expect me to agree with you simply because you say so. :rolleyes:

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 09:15 PM
he used the words "Rockefeller"
He didn't. He spelled it "Rockafeller", for reasons unknown. I've identified the sources of the three main samples in the song, none of which have provided me with any more clues. But the sample which goes "Rock-Rock-Rockafeller" before the guitar chords come in might hold a clue.

steevo
22-12-2008, 09:18 PM
Whereas you base yours on what you "think" to be true. And you expect me to agree with you simply because you say so. :rolleyes:

No I dont expect you to agree, but when you gave YOUR opinion you used a logical fallacy to make it sound as if you knew better than me because you were supposedly "in the know" cos you actually met him (you say). Yet you provided no evidence of metting him.

WHEN did you meet him ?

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 09:27 PM
You do get your knickers in a twist very easily.

My exact words were "I don't see that he's especially into saving the world". That is not the same as "coming to the conclusion that he wouldnt put those words in a song".

Either you are deliberately distorting my words or your English comprehension isn't very good. But either way, simply saying "I don't see that..." doesn't mean I've come to a firm conclusion either way.

You seem to be very sore about me having met your idol for some reason, but I met him at Turnmills nightclub on 22nd March last year. I was actually there to see the Chemical Brothers rather than him, but there you go. I also met him briefly backstage at The Other Stage for Glastonbury 2005. Quite why I have to "prove" any of this to you is beyond me though. I just expressed a different opinion to yours, get over yourself.

steevo
22-12-2008, 09:33 PM
You do get your knickers in a twist very easily.

My exact words were "I don't see that he's especially into saving the world". That is not the same as "coming to the conclusion that he wouldnt put those words in a song".

Either you are deliberately distorting my words or your English comprehension isn't very good. But either way, simply saying "I don't see that..." doesn't mean I've come to a firm conclusion either way.

You seem to be very sore about me having met your idol for some reason, but I met him at Turnmills nightclub on 22nd March last year. I was actually there to see the Chemical Brothers rather than him, but there you go. I also met him briefly backstage at The Other Stage for Glastonbury 2005. Quite why I have to "prove" any of this to you is beyond me though. I just expressed a different opinion to yours, get over yourself.

I dont have any "idols".
And I dont care whether you have met him or have never met him. But if you say you have then prove it, otherwise any of us can say ANYTHING just to suit an agenda. As far as I'm concerned, your opinion is no more valid than mine BUT your opinion had a logical fallacy to help back it up, whereas I had AT LEAST some circumstantial evidence.

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 09:42 PM
There was no logical fallacy at all. You expressed a viewpoint, I expressed another (which you didn't even understand properly).

I haven't claimed my opinion was any more valid than yours. I merely mentioned that I had met him a couple of times because I had, why should I hide that fact? It would be a logical fallacy to claim that I know him on the basis of two casual encounters - but then again, people do actually make a lot of judgements about a person right away when they meet them, rightly or wrongly.

Many celebs I've met have been quite different from their public persona, as it happens, so I'm not so sure about your claim that you "know" him better than I do simply because you've been following his music for more years than I have. Either way, your opinion is no more valid on this than mine, or vice versa.

Please get over yourself.

steevo
22-12-2008, 09:50 PM
Please get over yourself.

You should get over yourself, but I doubt you will cos FOR SOME STRANGE REASON, you like to PLAY the part of a skeptic.
A skeptic without a cause APPARANTLY :rolleyes:

dreamweaver
22-12-2008, 09:53 PM
No, mate, I just have my own mind. There are some people on here who are just mirror images of the very people they dismiss as "sheeple". They see that they have been lied to on some things, therefore they conclude that all conspiracy theories must automatically be true. I can appreciate the appeal of such "inverse sheepledom" to the hard-of-thinking, but I'm not among them.

You may have the last word.

steevo
22-12-2008, 10:00 PM
No, mate, I just have my own mind. There are some people on here who are just mirror images of the very people they dismiss as "sheeple". They see that they have been lied to on some things, therefore they conclude that all conspiracy theories must automatically be true. I can appreciate the appeal of such "inverse sheepledom" to the hard-of-thinking, but I'm not among them.

You may have the last word.

You dont like the word "sheeple" do you. The politically correct mob strikes again! If it was up to you that word would be banned, and in effect it would ban free speech, which is high on their agenda. By ridiculing people for using the word "sheeple" that in effect is your way of trying to ban free speech. How about you start addressing the CAUSES of sheepledom instead of trying to illiminate the word.

light_man
23-12-2008, 01:11 AM
Interesting discussion. Please keep it going.