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poentic12
02-06-2007, 11:57 PM
Well no disrespect from the titile: Just something i knew would get everyones attention. Ive been reading alot of things on here and in my observatrion everything that is being said is one huge contradiction. All of it. even david icke contradicts his very self. He saids that infinite love is the only real thing and all else is an illusion. That we are trapped inside of a fear based matrix. Okay does anything seem wrong with that. the Source of all that is: "is all that there is" He also saids that true love never abandons. the way icke describes it that means nothing exist outside of it Nothing. It has complete control of what it wants itself to do. i speak of the unversal creator god= the source. Well then where that this supposodly evil matrix were are stuck in come from. Oh i know out of the very loving source of all that is. We are part of god. So god basically let something that came outside of itself control us and create some huge illusion. Where the hell did it come from? Because all there is the source of love. so Um where does that leave you. you know how we got to this place beacue this loving source put us here. that is the only way possible. The only way. So to balieve otherwise is a very discredit
to the source= god. We are just the eyes and ears of god as it expeirences itslef on many different planes of existence. People complain: damn this sucks im trapped in my body. You have it for a REASON. well you have already gone against the very thing thst is love. you separated yourself From everything and baleived you are cursed. we are here because god wants us here. We cannot full understand the sources Purgatives and anyone Thats clamis is lying. Oh he said is he got all this info on drugs. Arnt drugs part of the "Illusion". If it was an illsuion then it would have jsut trapped him more. I think it did actually. Now ibve studied quataum physics and yeah were are seeing an illsuion but for a reason. Were are made this way. It how we percieve the energy around us. Why does humanity constatly baleve that what it dosent understand is evil. Second on my list is that we create our reality. well yes but david icke and i personally balieve all of you have taken this out of porprtion. You do experence what you focus on. if you werent interested in the nature of reality you would never have read this so it would have never been your reality. If you hadnt have read evrything you have read and expeirence everything you have then this letter would seem different. Your attitude determines what you see. Not your subconcoius creating this and that inless your crazy. And in that case what mind is intricate enough to create the universe or earth or billions of people. So drop that idoitic idea. Icke saids that your brain deletes 50% of what comes from the outside well that verything right there suggest the the info is coming from the outside not from within otherwise your mind wouldnt need to process anything.
Plus look at that this way lets say a car comes down the street. Someone who likes rims will focus on rims, someone who likes grills will focus on the grill and so forth. that is a subconcoius reaction. But did you create the car? Probably not. You deleted the rest of the car. Oh people say we are not one or when we are one everyone can create there own realty. Um if everyone were creating there own reality then um you would be much more separate from evryone compared to where you are now. It sounds like evryone wants to be god. we are god but separated amognst many individual pieces. You can create but not the way you think. Nature is holographic meaning all can be found in the one. But that means that you are inside other other people aswell but you have free will therefore they percieve you with free will. Like an ocean and drops of water. We can never be separate. We are always connecting with god which is everyone and everything around you. In this world we are very much more one. Beacuse what we do affects others. what we make others can see,feel, smell ect. so how are we not one? Especially here. yes when we die we will be maybe a little more connected.But we will still interact with otheres the way we do here. Ive used LSD before i know how it is. Evrything becomes dramatic as shit. So any glimpse of truth you may have is distorted. stop trying to be a supreme creator or feed you ego to the point where you can create the damn universe and combine us as one intricate web of consciousness. David said in an article that the planets and moons are fake. Well that why does he say that he was born in another planet. I just dont understand how he dosent see his own contradctions. About being manipluated by the government i agree most poeple are. but hey im not going to get into that.

Well jsut thought i should share my thoughts.

Love and peace

eternal_spirit
02-06-2007, 11:59 PM
pontec what's wrong with you're enter key ( break up the text a bit it's not easy to read) :D Have you got a peanut or something stuck underneath it?

I'll try read you're post anway.

i am all i am
03-06-2007, 12:27 AM
Well no disrespect from the titile: Just something i knew would get everyones attention.

Does this mean that you are here seeking attention ???



http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S34.gif With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

poentic12
03-06-2007, 12:34 AM
Sorry when i write straight from my heart its quick and i really dont think about it. With all do repect i dont even know who you guys are why would i need attention from you guys and what would it give me? My attention is not on myself but on you guys. I see to many contradictory forces at play in your minds and i just wanted to help thats all. sometimes im sarcastic when im debating a concept but thats just me.

Peace & love

tinmenace
03-06-2007, 01:13 AM
Love is the ONLY truth.

You'll understand it eventually. Don't stop trying. ;)

poentic12
03-06-2007, 05:30 AM
[QUOTE=tinmenace;52543]Love is the ONLY truth.

You'll understand it eventually. Don't stop trying. ;)[/QUOT

I appreciate the request and if you read my words a little more carefully and thought for yourself then you would see that that is what i am saying exactly that. Why would unconditional love put us somewhere or let us be in a plaxce that it didi not want us to be. Didnt you read what i said. To love where you are and know god has us exactly where would should be is all said. To baleive that you are stuck in an evil place is not love at all. That is what i was saying. David ickes teachings in a arge part teach nothing about love except for his willingness to do what he does. That is where you see the love. And only there.

Take care

graflok
03-06-2007, 06:02 AM
Love is the ONLY truth.


Truth is the only love. :)

infinitetruth
03-06-2007, 12:10 PM
When Icke says you create your own reality he doesn't mean it happens by magic instantly. He means when you have an idea or thought and you decide to follow that idea or thought through it eventually becomes reality. For instance, the car didn't suddenly appear. Someone thought about it first, someone thought it up. Everything around you has been created from someones thought. The computer you're at, the chair you are sitting on, the house your in, the words you are typing all are thought forms coming into reality.

What Icke is saying is that these thoughts are so powerful and if they can create our reality, we should be able to create a world we love through our thoughts.

The paradox is, did Icke create this secret society by thinking about it? Or was it already there without us knowing? You could say that if it was so secret and none of us imagined it then surely it shouldn't exist.

However, everyone has their own thoughts - the secret societies had an idea to control the world, they thought it up and now it's happening - the fact that we don't know helps them create their reality without any 'thought battles'. Now that we know what's going on we can think our way into changing it IMO

Your question is why would God do this, why would he let it happen? Watch 'Bruce Almighty' and the deleted scenes - God says 'if you want to paint pictures like these, you have to use dark colours' Maybe it's just Gods way of bringing the best out of all of us?

infinitely free
03-06-2007, 12:22 PM
People complain: damn this sucks im trapped in my body. You have it for a REASON. well you have already gone against the very thing thst is love. you separated yourself From everything and baleived you are cursed. we are here because god wants us here.

Ah, but you've just said it, mate! If people believe they are cursed and trapped, then that's what they "are"!

earthseed
03-06-2007, 12:25 PM
What is god? Outside of religious definition okay? If there is a source to this creation what is its nature? What is the purpose of a creation inside of it or outside of it to begin with? We really don't know the first thing about it or what it thinks it's doing. Are we an aspect of it? Or are we simply a seperate creation of it that it manipulates at will? We still don't know. We can only guess at the true nature of ourselves and what we might be projected from. But, if you total it if you dare to do that you will find that all that is that we are aware of is neutral. It allows for great tyranny and great kindness at the same time so much so that in the end they cancel each other out. Could it be an experiment? I don't have the answers obviously but I do have questions. And that is what David and others dare to do question it.

infinitely free
03-06-2007, 12:36 PM
Your attitude determines what you see.

And in that case what mind is intricate enough to create the universe or earth or billions of people.


Take care

I don’t know if you speak for yourself, here?
And the Universe – it must be a hologram, too!

If you break your points, into questions, i'll try answering, your questions.

infinitely free
03-06-2007, 12:44 PM
thoughts.

The paradox is, did Icke create this secret society by thinking about it? Or was it already there without us knowing? You could say that if it was so secret and none of us imagined it then surely it shouldn't exist.


Yes, we all created them!
We wanted someone to take the responsibility away, and here they came.
Now, we probably want sombody, to take responsibility, for the existence of secret societies

We are to think them out of existence - that's the way!

mada88
03-06-2007, 01:43 PM
saids? lol
Why do people use the word god? It comes from good just like devil comes from evil. Both polarities both silly. The reason we don't go back into oneness is because we just keep saying not right now. There are too many distractions in the circus right now, all there too stop us.
The elite/illuminati whatever you want to call them are telling us something about ourselfs. We can't just think happy positive things all the time to make them go away. They are a part of us as we are a part of them. Anyway if you don't face the negative you won't be able to see how silly it is just like the positive.

poentic12
03-06-2007, 10:22 PM
What is god? Outside of religious definition okay? If there is a source to this creation what is its nature? What is the purpose of a creation inside of it or outside of it to begin with? We really don't know the first thing about it or what it thinks it's doing. Are we an aspect of it? Or are we simply a seperate creation of it that it manipulates at will? We still don't know. We can only guess at the true nature of ourselves and what we might be projected from. But, if you total it if you dare to do that you will find that all that is that we are aware of is neutral. It allows for great tyranny and great kindness at the same time so much so that in the end they cancel each other out. Could it be an experiment? I don't have the answers obviously but I do have questions. And that is what David and others dare to do question it.

Hello god by what its definition is= the source the creator. obvoisly the universe was creared by something. Some form of intelligent life. And still is being created day by day. So there is a source. Are we connected to it? I think so because as you see we are creators weve built the human culture or had help but you still get my point. So we must be a part of god for we are the same as he/she just much much smaller. Oh god maybe nuetral becuase well we have free will. we are not puppets except to ourselves. And i dont baleive that in the astral world you cant kill a soul. So evil really only exist here in the physical dimension. Why? Well it could very well be some sort of school for souls or it could just be god wants the experience of us doing whatever we can for love and truth which is what he/she is. Im sure god loves himself. why dont you check out the Micheal teachings. Supposodly we are an experiment but not in a bad way. The tao/god cast out souls to the the lowest dimension to climb the latter to the source once again. A long journey. They say that there maybe many universes but they would be so completly different from this one we couldny even begin to imagine for we are in this one. but they say this is gods current project. So we must worry about this one. Now i dont know how much i aggree with all the micheal teachings but that resonates as true to me.

Oh while your add it- wondering about the lizards you should do a little more research everyone should. Insrtead of listening to this guy icke blindly. Cheack out info on these sources:

1.Zecharia Sitchin
2.The Annunaki
3.www.biped.info
4.http://www.biped.info/articles/stairway.html
5.http://www.vibrani.com/Anunnaki.htm

It is just other sources that may realte to more about us and the earth and thats just a small place to start there is tones of info out there.

poentic12
03-06-2007, 10:44 PM
more sources

Kundalini Awakenings- (Which im going through)
http://www.chosenones.net/home.php
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id330/pg1/index.html
http://www.michaelteachings.com/welcome.html

http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/entop.html

http://www.evolutionday.com/