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realdeal
09-10-2008, 02:11 AM
BRITISH CREDIT CARDS STOPPED ACROSS EUROPE

08 October 2008

Credit Cards from Britain have been stopped across many stores over Europe. The Sovereign Military Order of Malta are starting to pull the plug on their current system. Remember how it was two Irish Roman Catholics who started the Great Depression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_Wom5Hm1U

and justice for all
09-10-2008, 02:31 AM
Yeah... so I’m hearing...
what do they know that we don’t? :confused:

simplify
09-10-2008, 02:59 AM
Well its now official.....we are in a recession in Canada. Kinda surprised me, since for the most part we are doing ok here.....housing sales has gone into a slump, & some job losses. Nothing like the US & Britain. Wow you guys in England are taking a beating.....my sympathies go out to you all:eek:

deany
09-10-2008, 08:18 AM
for the past two weeks my nationwide debit and credit card have ceased to work in my local bank in the UAE..... never had a problem until the last couple of weeks.

wazaaap
09-10-2008, 08:41 AM
Well its now official.....we are in a recession in Canada. Kinda surprised me, since for the most part we are doing ok here.....housing sales has gone into a slump, & some job losses. Nothing like the US & Britain. Wow you guys in England are taking a beating.....my sympathies go out to you all:eek:

To be honest - i havent seen it on the streets, any of my friends i ask they are like - " i have the same cash as allways"

infact clothes and shit have all went down in price.

They are blowing it out of all proportions.

zarah
09-10-2008, 08:49 AM
You can't create a recession without imposing a climate of fear. The media tells us that we might lose our savings so we take our savings out of British banks and put them into foreign ones which guarantee 100% of our money. They tell us jobs are being lost and ours is at risk so we stop spending and start saving for the rainy day we're gonna experience soon. They tell us that houses are losing their value and it's so the wrong time to buy or sell so we stay where we are and don't even give it a second though..and so it goes on.

d9d9d9
09-10-2008, 09:32 AM
BRITISH CREDIT CARDS STOPPED ACROSS EUROPE

08 October 2008

Remember how it was two Irish Roman Catholics who started the Great Depression.



What are you trying to say?

fortysixandtwo
09-10-2008, 09:41 AM
What are you trying to say?

I think hes trying to say that small actions like this can snowball into much larger events.

killmicrosoft
09-10-2008, 09:51 AM
so when will credit card cease to work in uk

serpentoffire
09-10-2008, 09:55 AM
Bye bye british economy, aurevoir pounds. Soon you will be part of euro systems.
Welcome in the fantastic world of EURO-Disney....

realdeal
21-10-2008, 04:47 AM
Colin Powell on Meet the Press 10/19/2008 speaks of a Crisis on January 21st, 22nd!

"Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st, 22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!" -Colin Powell 10/19/2008

Watch at 2mins 40secs the video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDBOPcHpeo

Spread this information far and wide!

checkmate
21-10-2008, 04:52 AM
I started a thread on it right after watching Meet the Press, it was understated and ignored by the commentator.

romas
21-10-2008, 06:27 AM
Man at this rate we need a special calendar for looming disasters and ufo landings.

fortysixandtwo
21-10-2008, 06:52 AM
He's just talking about the United States Inauguration Date. I wouldn't read too much into it.

simplify
21-10-2008, 07:17 AM
Man at this rate we need a special calendar for looming disasters and ufo landings.

:DIwas just thinking the same thing. Interesting comment from Powell. He seemed to deliberately slip it in there.....but how can he know about it, & then say "that we don't know about", is that not a contradiction? He obviously knows something about these 2 dates. Very strange. I think these guys like to keep us in a constant state of fear and now suspense.

free thinker
21-10-2008, 08:34 AM
Looks to me like nwo want a man on the inside, he lied about iraq and wmd the fact that he wants to be a politician now should be seen for what it is.

obama look out, take this liar into your camp at your peril...and ours!!

godspeed
21-10-2008, 11:53 AM
a crisis that nobody knows about yet?letting the cat out the bag....blaming everything on the poor including terrorism!!! what a mumbling idiot and i for one dont look to america for leadership!!!

disorder2k8
21-10-2008, 12:03 PM
yes of course they like to keep you in fear.

TERROR ALERT ORANGE


made you look. :rolleyes:

realdeal
21-10-2008, 06:36 PM
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"Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy told the World that the United States - despite Alabama violence - is moving so fast in race relations a Negro could be President in 40 years. ... "There is no question about it," the Attorney General said. "In the next 40 years a Negro can achieve the same position that brother had."

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/jesuits/Barakobama_at_boston_college.jpg

tom bombadil
21-10-2008, 07:04 PM
He's just talking about the United States Inauguration Date. I wouldn't read too much into it.

I thought that too.


Tom.

fist fury
21-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Why would the call the inauguration a crisis?

Not only that, he said nobody would know. There's a couple of slips that occur from time to time from these people.

One that comes to mind if Rumsfeld's description of missiles being used on 9/11.

There's also Biden's comments.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

"Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man.

real6
21-10-2008, 08:24 PM
Colin Powell on Meet the Press 10/19/2008 speaks of a Crisis on January 21st, 22nd!

"Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st, 22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!" -Colin Powell 10/19/2008

Watch at 2mins 40secs the video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDBOPcHpeo

Spread this information far and wide!

O shit!!!!

Another 9/11 - 7/7

london_lad_84
21-10-2008, 08:45 PM
How can he say that there is going to be a disaster or disasters on those EXACT dates, thats ridiculous.

cleft_asunder
21-10-2008, 08:56 PM
But but but, if "[they] don't even know about [it]," then how do they know about it? :confused:

size_of_light
21-10-2008, 09:10 PM
We've had McCain calling the Kennedy assassination an 'intervention' in his debate with Obama and now Powell explicitly stating that there'll be a 'crisis' on the first or second day after Inauguration.

Then Joe Biden says this:

“Mark my words, it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39882

It's starting to add up.

vonbeck
21-10-2008, 10:02 PM
How can he say that there is going to be a disaster or disasters on those EXACT dates, thats ridiculous.

He cant and if he did know something. Colin Powell is hardly the type to make such an error or to be so arrogant as to state it so boldly imho


I think there is too much of a willingness to read things into statements like this of Colin Powells. I have listened to it a few times and to me he is quite clearly saying that presidents have to deal with crisis thats the nature of the job and that on January 21st when the new president takes office there will no doubt be a new crisis arisen that no-one(including powell himself) is aware of yet.

If he had pulled some random date out of the air like the 22nd February and said the president would have a crisis to deal with and that no one knows about happen then, that woud have been a different story.

oiram
21-10-2008, 10:09 PM
Watch at 2mins 40secs the video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDBOPcHpeo
Spread this information far and wide!
Here is the CQ Transcript: Colin Powell on NBC’s “Meet the Press”
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002976656
POWELL: I would start with talking to the American people and talking to the world, and conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world.

The problems will always be there, and there’s going to be a crisis come along in the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now.

And so I think what the president has to do is to start using the power of the Oval Office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and to convince the world that America is solid, America is going to move forward, and we’re going to fix our economic problems, we’re going to meet our overseas obligations.

But restoring a sense of purpose, a sense of confidence in the American people and, in the international community, in America.



http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/Topicss.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39403)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39403

americana
21-10-2008, 10:29 PM
Why would the call the inauguration a crisis?

Not only that, he said nobody would know. There's a couple of slips that occur from time to time from these people.



Yes, but this time, CRISIS was said in so deliberate a manner, I cannot believe that it was a slip. He said the word louder and in a different tone than the rest of his answers!

danster82
21-10-2008, 10:36 PM
Hang on a second if the Secretary of state says theres going to be a crisis coming 21st or 22nd of January that no body is aware of yet... isnt the first thing you would do is ask WHAT crisis? wouldn't that be the normal reaction to such a statement. I just thought it funny the way the guy interviewing didnt even bat an eye lid and just skiped over it.

vonbeck
21-10-2008, 10:37 PM
On a personal level, life isnt simple I know next year I will have some sort of "crisis" to deal with, whether its, job or income related, health or family related. I know this, it doesnt mean I have foreknowledge of the event.

Note, Powell also says that "we" dont know about it yet. Not "you" dont know about it.................If he doesnt know about it, how does he have foreknowledge of it. Or was that a slip but the rest wasnt?

steevo
21-10-2008, 10:37 PM
Maybe 21-22 January is Project Bluebeam day ?

They must be playing with our minds. The wankers.

checkmate
21-10-2008, 11:49 PM
Well all new presidents are tested, but with the state of the Global Economy and all groups and countries trying to develop nuclear weapons it makes one stop and think.

One further note, President Bush met with both candidates to supposedly inform them of the looming security threats against the US just days before all these statements came out. Maybe it was the President's way of striking fear into them I don't know but wish I was a fly on the wall during that meeting.

pdcdp
21-10-2008, 11:57 PM
Hillary for president :d:d

strt
22-10-2008, 12:00 AM
GOLDEN TESTICLE

Can you please use normal font and one color, I almost missed this important part of your information because of creative formatting you used?

cleft_asunder
22-10-2008, 01:42 AM
We've had McCain calling the Kennedy assassination an 'intervention' in his debate with Obama and now Powell explicitly stating that there'll be a 'crisis' on the first or second day after Inauguration.

Then Joe Biden says this:

“Mark my words, it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39882

It's starting to add up.

WTF?? Did he really say that?

simplify
22-10-2008, 01:55 AM
But but but, if "[they] don't even know about [it]," then how do they know about it? :confused:

My point exactly, either he knows something or he doesn't. I posted already on this very point:confused:

knightbk
22-10-2008, 05:37 AM
Sigh.

Once again somebody says something and the conspiracy sites jump on it.

He is talking figuratively that the next President is going to have crisis' to deal with and he is right, they are going to go in and they are going to be dealing with the economic mess, iraq, afganistan and other issues right off the bad.

He isn't saying that Martial Law is coming, Aliens, Blue Beams, FEMA Death Camps or anything else stupid like that.

Wake up.

simplify
22-10-2008, 05:39 AM
Sigh.

Once again somebody says something and the conspiracy sites jump on it.

He is talking figuratively that the next President is going to have crisis' to deal with and he is right, they are going to go in and they are going to be dealing with the economic mess, iraq, afganistan and other issues right off the bad.

He isn't saying that Martial Law is coming, Aliens, Blue Beams, FEMA Death Camps or anything else stupid like that.

Wake up.

Everyone knows the US & the world is in a crisis. I don't think he needed to point that out. IMO, he was alerting us to something else. But what?

vonbeck
22-10-2008, 09:04 AM
Sigh.

Once again somebody says something and the conspiracy sites jump on it.

He is talking figuratively that the next President is going to have crisis' to deal with and he is right, they are going to go in and they are going to be dealing with the economic mess, iraq, afganistan and other issues right off the bad.

He isn't saying that Martial Law is coming, Aliens, Blue Beams, FEMA Death Camps or anything else stupid like that.

Wake up.

Finally someone who talks sense. Seems to be everyone is so desperate for bad stuff to happen on here, they are hanging on every word for"clues"

simplify
22-10-2008, 09:18 AM
Check out these 6 video clips on youtube for more info.

"Predictive Software show harder times in 2009":eek:

zen_fox
22-10-2008, 09:32 AM
folks this information is coming direct to you from f.b.i division #5. The same agency behind the assassination of john f. Kennedy. Tom brokaw is an f.b.i division #5 agent! Inquisitional, f.b.i tied in with nasa, boeing along with defense industrial security command of denver. Brokaw has ties to jesuit fortresses, boston college & fairfield university along with roman catholic, university of notre dame & providence college! Now bare in mind that robert f. Kennedy spoke of a black president in forty years back in 1968. The time has come! What happened to this bobby? Dead! Read between the lines. I still believe john mccain will be the next u.s president as he is the archbisop of ny's (smom navigator) golden testicle. Lets not forget how the society of jesus has also funded roman catholic, joe biden's son hunter to the tune of $80,000 through their military fortress, the university of scranton! Hunter is trained by jesuits at their most powerful fortress known as georgetown university. Georgetown controlled by fr' james shea, sj. Shea, sj & archbishop donald wuerl control senator joe biden. Obama is controlled by both fr' james shea, sj and fr' edward w. Schmidt along with archbisops donald wuerl and francis eugene! So see how the society of jesus pull both stings? Always controlling their corporations! Please note how hunter biden is linked with the russell trust association's, skull & bones yale university. The same university roman catholic euan blair graduated from and the same yale where his father, roman catholic, tony blair the maltese knight recently taught globalism at. -craig oxley

"attorney general robert f. Kennedy told the world that the united states - despite alabama violence - is moving so fast in race relations a negro could be president in 40 years. ... "there is no question about it," the attorney general said. "in the next 40 years a negro can achieve the same position that brother had."

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/tlthe5th/jesuits/barakobama_at_boston_college.jpg


rawr me talks bigger then you.

knightbk
22-10-2008, 09:33 AM
Everyone knows the US & the world is in a crisis. I don't think he needed to point that out. IMO, he was alerting us to something else. But what?

He isn't alerting you to anything else, he is directly telling you that there ARE crisis that need to be dealt with from DAY ONE by the new President, and there will be other things that are going to happen. Some as a result of what is going on today and some totally unforseen.

Anybody alive right now understands that the next 2 or 3 years will probably be tough ones economically, and bad economic times always cause foreign policy crisis. History shows this. The next President is going to have a tough agenda on his plate before things are relatively stable again, which they will be at some point in time, be it 2 years, 5 or 10. That is the way of the world.


Now, anybody who chooses to believe the world is going to end or yadda yadda yadda, well, my prayers are with you for wasting your life worrying about what essentially amounts to idiocy. While you are worrying about whatever, a Red Truck will run you over tomorrow or cancer will get you or whatever.

Enjoy your life bud and don't worry so much about this stuff. Sites like these actually feed on negative energy and fear, even though everybody here tries to say to fight against that.

cmdr_sabbathius
22-10-2008, 10:02 AM
<back on first post of page 2.>

Emerald City?

Something tells me we're not in Kansas anymore. ;)

timezone
22-10-2008, 11:24 AM
Colin Powell Warns Of Coming Crisis “We Don’t Even Know About Right Now”

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, Oct 21, 2008

Colin Powell has made bizarre comments that echo the recent declaration by Democratic VP candidate Joe Biden that there will be an "international crisis" early into Barack Obama’s presidency that will test the new president by forcing him to make unpopular decisions.

Speaking on meet the press two days ago, Powell officially endorsed Obama and also made the following statement:

"The problems will always be there and there’s going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st, 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now.

So I think what the President has to start to do is to start using the power of the oval office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and convince the world that America is solid, that America is going to move forward, we are going to fix our economic problems, we’re going to meet out overseas obligations."

Watch Powell make the comment at 2.35 into the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDBOPcHpeo&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/?p=5461

Is Colin Powell referring to a theoretical crisis that could occur at any time? If so why does he choose a specific date, within the first two days after the inauguration? Also why does he refer to general problems that the new president will have to deal with in a separate context? We are already in an economic crisis, everyone knows that, so what new crisis is Powell talking about?

Whatever you read into Powell’s comments, they sound somewhat bizarre, particularly as they come on the back of Joe Biden’s "guarantee" of a "generated crisis" to "test the mettle" of the new leader within six months of the new presidential term:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOwb9l0DtRA&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/?p=5461

What does Biden mean by "generated crisis"? It is an undeniably strange term to use.

His reference to John F. Kennedy indicates that Biden may have been referring some kind of geopolitical crisis in the vain of the Cuban missile crisis of April 1961. The confrontation between the United States, the Soviet Union, and Cuba at the height of the Cold War came within the first four months of JFK’s presidency.

Obama’s running mate made the comments at a fundraising event in Seattle two days ago, on the same day Powell also spoke of a coming crisis.

We shouldn’t be surprised at Powell’s comments however, given that the former Secretary of State seemingly has a knack for predicting events before they take place.

Previous to the beginning of the Iraq war in February 2003, an audio tape containing a voice described as that of Osama Bin Laden was touted as proof positive of Al Qaeda links with Saddam Hussein.

Hours before the tape was discovered and aired by TV channel Al Jazeera, Powell announced in the US Senate that a “Bin Laden tape is coming proving Iraq’s links with Al-Qaeda.”

This led some to raise the question how does Colin Powell know what Al Jazeera are going to broadcast before they do?

In an amazing and timely coincidence, the tape came barely a week after Powell’s attempts to link Al Qaeda and Saddam in his botched presentation of lies and exaggerations before the UN Security Council.

loderlive
22-10-2008, 12:16 PM
What does Biden mean by "generated crisis"?

Himself.

zen_fox
22-10-2008, 01:09 PM
The Obama administration is going to finish the work of Bush. Because of Bush's near universal hatred among the people they could no longer pull off a false flag event and change enemies. It's just like in 1984 where on a whim enemies were changed. Now the US is enemies with Iraq. Next it will be Russia again. No one was going to buy into a Bush administration false flag event again. There was a bombing under Clinton. There was a bombing under Bush and there will be a bombing under Obama. Obama is just the new face for the same old fascist push.

What Powell is talking about is the upcoming events they have planned. Joe Biden has echoed these statements as well. Obama is going to make some economic decisions which even his most loyal of followers will not agree with and they're trying to make sure his support will be galvanized even greater than Bush's was. This will be paired with another "incident", most likely a false flag international bombing (think Israel). With Obama in office, Brizensky will be calling the shots again as he did under President Carter.

If you look at some of Obama's policies they're as bad, if not worse then, Bush. He opposes gun ownership. He is not anti-war, just anti Iraq war, and that probably only because it's unpopular. He has talked several times about a new service offered to help young people through college, but he has made no mention that this would be mandatory service in either the armed forces or the peace corps. It is a form of soft draft.

He is likely to win though and his following is fanatical, absolutely rabid. He is the new, replacing the old, with some distinct new policies. He is likely to usurp even more power and control then Bush did, to finalize America into a police state, fascist regime.

I don't like either candidate but I think it does make some sense that Mccain would actually help the people wake up to what's going on. People really don't like Bush and Mccain would be seen as Bush term 3. Mccain would be quagmired, unable to gain support from his own party, the opposite party, and the people. He wouldn't be able to do anything. At least stagnation would be better.

size_of_light
22-10-2008, 01:40 PM
Himself.

Haha.

size_of_light
22-10-2008, 01:48 PM
I get the sense that McCain (describing the Kennedy assassination as an 'intervention'), Biden (likening Obama to Kennedy, no less, and guaranteeing a crisis) and Powell (naming a date) are all communicating different elements of the same coming events.

Could Obama be the victim of an assasination or an assassination attempt (ala Kennedy) immediately following his inauguration (Jan 21 or 22), which will be (a crisis) blamed on a particular country, thereby creating a pretext for a war?

Are they subliminally communicating pieces of a message to the public at large (if so why?), or are the intended recipients of the message a specific person or persons?

real6
22-10-2008, 03:28 PM
WTF?? Did he really say that?

Yup they are gonna assassinate Obama and Biden will become president probably. They is something fishy with that guy!!!

size_of_light
22-10-2008, 03:34 PM
Yup they are gonna assassinate Obama and Biden will become president probably. They is something fishy with that guy!!!

Biden was linked closely to the financiers of the 9/11 attacks. In the days following 9/11, he met with Pakistani ISI General Mahmood Ahmed, the man who gave the order to get one hundred thousand dollars wired to Mohammed Atta.

and this:

Joe Biden the seemingly clairvoyant senator from Delaware, and vice presidential nominee was out making predictions, again. The last time Joe was using his crystal ball was on September 10, 2001, one day prior to the 9/11 attacks.

He was at the national press club when he made an astounding prediction, that came true hours later. "We will have diverted all that money to address the least likely threat while the real threats come into this country in the hold of a ship, or the belly of a plane, or are smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack."

Biden Brings His Prophecy to the Emerald City
http://www.noonehastodietomorrow.com/agenda/politics/388?task=view

sirlozo
22-10-2008, 03:53 PM
He's just talking about the United States Inauguration Date. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Yeah, this,.

tao81
22-10-2008, 04:14 PM
Is it possible that the president has access to information that the candidates may not have access to? In other words, on January 22nd, will the new president discover what's really going on? Maybe that's what Powell is getting at.

This is so bizarre.

steevo
22-10-2008, 04:19 PM
Is it possible that the president has access to information that the candidates may not have access to? In other words, on January 22nd, will the new president discover what's really going on? Maybe that's what Powell is getting at.

This is so bizarre.

It doesnt SEEM to be that. As mentioned by RealDeal in the OP, this is what Colin Powell said :-

"Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st, 22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!" -Colin Powell 10/19/2008

real6
22-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Biden was linked closely to the financiers of the 9/11 attacks. In the days following 9/11, he met with Pakistani ISI General Mahmood Ahmed, the man who gave the order to get one hundred thousand dollars wired to Mohammed Atta.

and this:

Joe Biden the seemingly clairvoyant senator from Delaware, and vice presidential nominee was out making predictions, again. The last time Joe was using his crystal ball was on September 10, 2001, one day prior to the 9/11 attacks.

He was at the national press club when he made an astounding prediction, that came true hours later. "We will have diverted all that money to address the least likely threat while the real threats come into this country in the hold of a ship, or the belly of a plane, or are smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack."

Biden Brings His Prophecy to the Emerald City
http://www.noonehastodietomorrow.com/agenda/politics/388?task=view



Very interesting. But its also funny how 'Osama Bin Laden' and 'Obama Biden' sound the same.

They know what the hell is going on. Its been planned from the biginning.

size_of_light
22-10-2008, 04:36 PM
Very interesting. But its also funny how 'Osama Bin Laden' and 'Obama Biden' sound the same.

They know what the hell is going on. Its been planned from the biginning.

That's definitely a difficult one to explain away. Anyone who doesn't find that to be one of the most bizarre coincidences in history is either blind or lying to themselves.

real6
22-10-2008, 04:38 PM
That's definitely a difficult one to explain away. Anyone who doesn't find that to be one of the most bizarre coincidences in history is either blind or lying to themselves.

It has to be something hiding under that. TinTin always has these amazing posts on this kind of subject matter. But it is in front of our eyes. They are telling us something. We know and we are giving you this information and tell you sheep we know whats going on and we will create another 9/11 - 7/11 event. Im telling you...


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/27/flashback-biden-on-91001-warned-the-real-threat-may-come-in-the-belly-of-a-plane/

Flashback: Biden on 9/10/01 warned the ‘real threat’ may come in ‘the belly of a plane’»

biden.jpgBefore 9/11, the Bush administration’s national security focus was on missile defense, not terrorism. In fact, on 9/11, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice was set to deliver a speech that focused “largely on missile defense.” Writing at the Huffington Post, Joe Cirincione — president of the Ploughshares Fund — recalls this quote from Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) on Sept. 10, 2001, warning against the Bush administration’s approach:

We will have diverted all that money to address the least likely threat while the real threats come into this country in the hold of a ship, or the belly of a plane, or are smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack.

Cirincione writes, “If George Bush had listened to Joe Biden instead of Donald Rumsfeld, the history of the past seven years would have been very different. We might have prevented 9/11.”

real6
22-10-2008, 04:48 PM
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/june2007/050607bidenadmits.htm

Biden Admits Post-9/11 Meeting With Hijacker's Financier
We Are Change group questions Senator on details of confab with Pakistani general


Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, June 5, 2007

Presidential candidate Senator Joe Biden admitted meeting with the chief financier of the 9/11 hijackers in the days after September 11 after being confronted by We Are Change founder Luke Rudkowski in the press room following Sunday's Democratic debate in New Hampshire.

According to the FBI and as confirmed by various news reports at the time, Pakistani ISI General Mahmoud Ahmad instructed Omar Saeed Sheikh, the alleged assassin of Daniel Pearl, to wire $100,000 to alleged lead hijacker Mohammed Atta in the summer of 2001.

Arriving exactly one week before 9/11, the general met with Pentagon, White House National Security Council and CIA officials, including George Tenet and Marc Grossman, then U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs.

On the very morning of 9/11, Ahmad was at a breakfast meeting on Capitol Hill hosted by Senator Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss, the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence committees.

Two days after the attack on the twin towers and the Pentagon, on September 13th, Senator Joseph Biden, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, met with the ISI chief.

No adequate explanation has been forthcoming as to why top government and intelligence officials were meeting with the money man behind the alleged hijackers before and after 9/11.

Shortly after the Democratic debate had finished on Sunday, Prison Planet reporter Rudkowski was able to get access to the CNN spin room and confront presidential candidate Biden about his 9/11 meeting with the Pakistani General.


Pakistani ISI General Mahmoud Ahmad.

"We asked him the question - what was he doing with the head of the Pakistani ISI General Mahmoud Ahmad," said Rudkowski.

"He told me - he admitted that he met with him - he met with the head of the Pakistani ISI - he said I told them not to do it, I told them not to wire the money - I told them to stop supporting the Taliban, which shows he had foreknowledge of them supporting him."

"I told him - sir, he funded the hijackers, you did business with him, you let him go - he's free," said Rudkowski, to which Biden responded, "Get a life kid," after which Rudkowski was pushed away by Biden's security staff.

Biden's comments demand immediate explanation and an investigation into why Mohammed Atta's chief financier was allowed to leave the United States without even being questioned by authorities after having met with top Bush administration and other public officials.

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The We Are Change organization, who made headlines for their recent head-to-head with Rudy Giuliani, were also busy speaking truth to power and confronting other high profile figures during their visit to New Hampshire.

Rudkowski said the event was packed with Ron Paul supporters and 9/11 truthers, outnumbering everybody besides Obama and Clinton acolytes.

The group confronted Bohemian Grove members Bill Richardson and David Gergen at the event, causing Richardson to run and leave the building, while Gergen attempted the laugh the subject away before the subjects of male prostitution at the Grove and Molec was mentioned, at which point Gergen also hurriedly left.

Another member of the group, Nate Evans, confronted Hillary Clinton at a fundraiser in New York, calling her "Queen Hillary" and was immediately assaulted by secret service, physically thrown out of the event and chased away.

Clinton was also asked about 9/11 and her association with the Bilderberg Group but completely ignored the questions.

Video footage from all the confrontations will be made available in the coming days.

real6
22-10-2008, 04:52 PM
http://indymedia.org.nz/mod/comments/display/113672/index.php

9/11,Dem VP Joe Biden,Daniel Peal Beheading and Biden's Terrorist Allies


Re: 9/11,Dem VP Joe Biden,Daniel Peal Beheading and Biden's Terrorist Allies

Barrack Hussein Obama's Democrat VP choice Joseph Biden likes to brag abouyt being a 'Zionist',and while real right wing Jews must laugh at him behind his back for being such an idiot,(any real Zionist WOULD KNOW you MUST be born Jewish in the first place to enter that far right fascist club and although Biden qualifies as a fascist he does not quañify as a Zioninst cause he's not AND CAN'T BE a Jewish Fascist.Sorry Charlie - I mean Mr.Joe Biden - you don't even qualify as kosher tuna fish in their eyes...However when Biden's dealing with the scum of Pakistan 'intelligence' who took Daniel Pearl's life what does he say to them behind closed doors - that he an Islamic Fascist like they are !?
Biden is one sicko Irish-Catholic if you ask me - a Catholic Zionist Islamo Fascist !?
Anyway he does 'business' and talks real sweet to Pakistani ISI General Ahmad who happened to instruct Omar Saeed Sheikh(who is considered the chief responsible for the beheading of Jewish WSJ journalist DANIEL PEARL IN PAKISATAN A FEW YEARS AGO to send Mohammed Atta $100,000 cash from Pakistan pre 9/11 !! But even worst if it can get worst is the fact that this same Pakistani General who he had a private meeting with only 3 days after 9/11/01 ! This doofus Biden,(to be optimististic),(Joe Biden,who calls himself a
'Catholic Zionist !),is actually responsible for
Pakistani ISI General Ahmad sending that check to Atta in Venice and even more so because he must have known about it BEFORE Daniel Pearl's beheading - this scumbag Biden who would be U.S. President of Vice to replace Sikkk Slikkk Dikkk Cheney as well as his sons Beau and Hunter are turning out to be worse than the Saddam Hussein and sons he warned us about and who he voted to to go war against post 9/11 ! And now he and his
stooge Barrack Hussein Obama claims that was all a big mistake and we must concentrate more not on killing Iraqis but now upon killing Afghnis ! Joe Biden and his Washington,D.C. lobbyist son with his money laundering penny stock pump and dump 'hedge fund' Paradigm Cos. turns out to be everything he and his pals W Bush and John McPain I mean McCain warned us about Saddam ! And his son Beau of the Delaware National Guard and Delaware Attorney General's office with his credit card loan sharking connections is just as bad or worse than any son of Saddam Hussein in my humble opinion !
Note I had already written about the $70,000 check sent to Atta in Venice by someone in Dubai,(where Cheney's Haliburton is now headquartered), just before 9/11 and that it was cashed by 'Lebanese American' Makram Chams(a Titan Corp employee who just COINCIDENTALLY happened to have the convenient Kwik Check concession in Venice, Florida even though Titan is headquartered in San Diego,California !).And immediately after 911 he fled NOT to Iraq to be protected by Saddam or to Afghanistan to seek protection from Bush allies in Saudi Arabia where he from their sused his former employees at Titan for over $20 million for the great job he dids in Vwnice,Florida we can only presume !

Anyway the below material and links will show you what a fascist and or grossly incompetent doofu Hussein Obama has selected as President of Vice to replace our already outstanding President of Vice Dick Cheney !
Oh also note at bottom Saudi royalty also donated to 911 terrorists - Saudi Princess Al-Faisal,wife of longtime Bush family friend Prince
Bandar used Riggs Bank account where Bush's uncle Jonathan was a director to make their 'contribution'.Yes if you are an American you can only conclude that with 'leaders' like ours -who needs enemies !?

Sincerely,
Tony Ryals

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Joe Biden Met Financier Of 9/11 Hijackers, AFTER 911 watch!
youtube.com — Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joe
Biden admits on camera that he met with Omar Saeed Sheikh (also
accused of beheading Daniel Pearl) after 9/11. The Pakistani ISI agent
wired Mohammed Atta in the summer of 2001 according to the 9/11
Commission.

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j.carcinogen
on 08/29/2008 I apologize, he met the ISI General, Ahmad who
instructed Sheikh to wire the money. Omar Sheik is also who Bhutto
said killed Bin Laden btw before she was killed:

www.youtube.com/watch

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www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/23/politics/main4377152.shtml

McCain: Biden A "Very Wise Selection"












biden pakistan daniel pearl 911 connection

indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display/74352/index.php
Rupert Murdoch:Fox News' Islamofascist Ijaz Mansoor's Advice Killed
WSJ Reporter Daniel Pearl

And that,(getting Daniel Pearl killed by his advice and contacts in
Pakistan)),was at least hopefully unintentional.Worse yet is when this
scumbag Ijaz actually bribes,(donates),to our elected officials to
influence their political decisions including in Pakistan and the
Middle East that could or has come BACK TO HAUNT US ALL. :


Mitt Romney,CIA James Woolsey:Fox News' Islamofascist Ijaz Mansoor's
Advice Killed WSJ Reporter Daniel Pearl

islamo-fascist:
If I were looking for an example of one who fit CNN's and Fox News'
sensational term 'Islamofascist' it would be Ijaz Mansoor who was
until recently a part of Rupert Murdoch's Fox disinformation ops. You
know the kind - the ones Rupert Murdoch's Fox News gave unending free
air time to - pre Iraq war - to mumble about Saddam's nukes and WMDS
and even supposed UAV's or unmanned aerial vehicles Saddam
was(ha)going to attack US WITH FROM HALF A WORLD AWAY ! And Jihad
Manoor's business partner,ex CIA Director business partner James
Woolsey,has done very well for himself and his Dyncorp,etc.,,war
profiteering operations thanks to penny stock and war promoting shills
such as Ijaz Mansoor......

online news hour interview ijaz mansoor re daniel pearl


209.85.165.104/search

TERENCE SMITH: Last Wednesday in Karachi, an American journalist was
headed for this restaurant when he disappeared. Daniel Pearl, the
38-year-old South Asia Bureau chief for The Wall Street Journal, was
scheduled to meet a local source for an article on Richard Reid, the
alleged "shoe bomber."

Then, over the weekend, these photos of Pearl were released to news
organizations by a previously unknown group called the National
Movement for the Restoration of Pakistani Sovereignty. The group
charged that Pearl was a CIA Agent. The message complained about the
American government's treatment of Pakistanis captured in the Afghan
war, and now held in Cuba.

The group said in its e-mail it was holding Pearl "in very inhumane
circumstances. "If the Americans keep our countrymen in better
conditions, we will better the conditions of Mr. Pearl and all the
other Americans that we capture."

Yesterday, in an unusual step, the CIA publicly denied that Pearl ever
worked there. Dow Jones, the Journal's parent company, and the State
Department have issued similar denials.

RICHARD BOUCHER, State Department Spokesman: We want to reiterate our
view that he should be released immediately and unconditionally. He is
a respected journalist, and he has no connection with the United
States government.

TERENCE SMITH: The Pearl case has been raised at the highest levels.
On Monday, Secretary of State Colin Powell urged Pakistani President
Pervez Musharraf to do everything possible to win the reporter's
release. Investigators in Karachi suspect Pearl was kidnapped by the
militant group Harakat ul-Mujahedeen. It has kidnapped foreigners in
the past, and is linked to the al-Qaida network.

Pearl's disappearance
TERENCE SMITH: For more on the kidnapping, we go to Nafisa Hoodbhoy,
who from 1984 to 2000 was a reporter for Pakistan's leading newspaper,
Dawn, based in Karachi. She is an informal consultant to the Committee
to Protect Journalists. And to Mansoor Ijaz, an investment banker and
frequent op-ed columnist for international publications. His parents
emigrated to the United States in 1960 from Pakistan shortly before he
was born.

TERENCE SMITH: Welcome to you both. Mansoor Ijaz, you've been in
touch, I understand, with Daniel Pearl, and even provided him with
some contacts for sources among militant Islamic groups in Pakistan.
Tell us about that.

MANSOOR IJAZ, Investment Banker: Shortly after the tragic events of
September 11, Mr. Pearl called me from Bombay and said he had been
made aware that I had some contacts with some of the either former
associates of Osama bin Laden or some of the more radical Islamic
groups in Pakistan, which I did from other things that I had done in
that region. And he wanted to know whether or not I would be willing
to introduce him to them.

And I spent about an hour with him in that first telephone call
essentially trying to understand what story he wanted to pursue to
make sure I wasn't unnecessarily putting him in harm's way, because
these are not people who understand mistakes very well. And I was
absolutely convinced of his integrity, his honesty, his approach, and
I made those contacts available to him.

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google search link for 'makram chams'

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www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/01/390122.html

Titan Corp's Makram Chams Suspends U.S. Constitution
Tony Ryals | 25.01.2008 05:50

I have never heard Mr.Chams version of events in Venice,Florida and
his association with Mohamed Atta there and of how he came to be the
owner of the Kwik-Check that cashed Mohamed Atta's $70,000 check from
Dubai.


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Pakistan ISI connection to Attaand 911

www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO206A.html

Schedule of Pakistan's Chief of Military Intelligence Lt. General
Mahmoud Ahmad, Washington, 4-13 September 2001

Summer 2001: ISI Chief Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad transfers $100,000 to
9-11 Ringleader Mohamed Atta.

4 September: Ahmad arrives in the US on an official visit.

4-9 September: He meets his US counterparts including CIA Head George Tenet.

9 September: Assassination of General Massood, leader of the Northern
Alliance. Official statement by Northern Alliance points to
involvement of the ISI-Osama-Taliban axis.

11 September: Terrorist Attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon. At the
time of the attacks, Lt General Ahmad was at a breakfast meeting at
the Capitol with the chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence
Committees Sen Bob Graham and Rep Porter Goss. Also present at the
meeting were Sen. John Kyl and the Pakistani ambassador to the U.S.,
Maleeha Lodhi.

12-13 September: Meetings between Lt. General Ahmad and Deputy
Secretary of State Richard Armitage. Agreement on Pakistan's
collaboration negotiated between Ahmad and Armitage. Meeting between
General Ahmad and Secretary of State Colin Powell

13 September: Ahmad meets Senator Joseph Biden, Chairman of the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Condoleezza Rice's Press Conference

Condoleezza Rice's Press Conference
In the course of Condoleezza Rice's May 16 press conference (which
took place barely a few hours after the publication of the "Bush Knew"
headlines in The New York Post), an accredited Indian journalist asked
a question on the role of General Mahmoud Ahmad:

(...)

Q: Dr. Rice?

Ms RICE: Yes?

Q: Are you aware of the reports at the time that the ISI chief was in
Washington on September 11th, and on September 10th $100,000 was wired
from Pakistan to these groups here in this area? And why was he here?
Was he meeting with you or anybody in the Administration?

Ms RICE: I have not seen that report, and he was certainly not meeting
with me.13

(...)

Although there is no official confirmation, in all likelihood General
Mahmoud Ahmad met Dr. Rice during the course of his official visit.
Moreover, she must have been fully aware of the $100,000 transfer to
Mohammed Atta, which had been confirmed by the FBI.

Lost in the barrage of media reports on 'foreknowledge', this crucial
piece of information on the ISI's role in 9-11, implicates key members
of the Bush Administration including: CIA Director George Tenet,
Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Secretary of State, Richard
Armitage, Under-Secretary of State Marc Grossman, as well Senator
Joseph Biden (Democrat), Chairman of the powerful Senate Foreign
Relations Committee (who met General Ahmad on the 13th of
September)."According to Biden, [Ahmad] pledged Pakistan's
cooperation".14......



CONFIRMED BY OFFICIAL SOURCES (QUOTED BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
PAKISTAN'S CHIEF SPY GENERAL MAHMOUD AHMAD MET THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS
OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND THE US CONGRESS, DURING HIS VISIT TO
WASHINGTON (4-13 September 2001). (Dates of meeting indicated)
Secretary of State Colin Powell (12-13 Sept)

Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage (12-13 Sept)

Under-Secretary of State Marc Grossman (before 11 Sept)

CIA Director George Tenet (before 11 Sept)

Senator Bob Graham, Chairman of Senate Intelligence Committee (11 Sept)

Senator John Kyl, member of the Senate Intelligence committee (11 Sept)

Representative Porter Goss, Chairman of the House Intelligence
Committee (11 Sept)

Senator Joseph Biden, Chairman of Foreign Relations Committee (13 Sept)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Although there is no official confirmation, in all likelihood General
Mahmoud Ahmad met Dr. Rice during the course of his official visit.
Moreover, she must have been fully aware of the $100,000 transfer to
Mohammed Atta, which had been confirmed by the FBI.

Lost in the barrage of media reports on 'foreknowledge', this crucial
piece of information on the ISI's role in 9-11, implicates key members
of the Bush Administration including: CIA Director George Tenet,
Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Secretary of State, Richard
Armitage, Under-Secretary of State Marc Grossman, as well Senator
Joseph Biden (Democrat), Chairman of the powerful Senate Foreign
Relations Committee (who met General Ahmad on the 13th of
September)."According to Biden, [Ahmad] pledged Pakistan's
cooperation".14.

Mysterious 9-11 Breakfast Meeting on Capitol Hill
On the morning of September 11, General Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged
"money-man" behind the 9-11 hijackers was at a breakfast meeting on
Capitol Hill hosted by Senator Bob Graham (Democrat) and
Representative Porter Goss, respectively chairmen of the Senate and
House Intelligence Committees. Also present at this meeting was
Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S. Maleeha Lodhi. The report confirms
that other members of the Senate and House Intelligence committees
were present...........

CIA Overshadows the Presidency
Dr. Rice's statement regarding the ISI chief at her May 16 press
conference, is an obvious cover-up. While General Ahmad was talking to
U.S. officials at the CIA and the Pentagon, he had allegedly also been
in contact (through a third party) with the September 11 terrorists.
What this suggests is that key individuals within the U.S.
military-intelligence establishment knew about these ISI contacts with
the September 11 terrorist 'ring leader', Mohammed Atta, and failed to
act. But this conclusion is, in fact, an understatement. Everything
indicates that CIA Director George Tenet and ISI Chief General Mahmoud
Ahmad, had established a close working relationship. General Mahmoud
had arrived a week prior to September 11 for consultations with George
Tenet. Bear in mind that the CIA's George Tenet, also has a close
personal relationship with President Bush. Prior to September 11,
Tenet would meet the President nearly every morning at 8:00 a.m.
sharp, for about half an hour. 20 15 A document, known as the
President's Daily Briefing, or PDB, "is prepared at Langley by the
CIA's analytical directorate, and a draft goes home with Tenet each
night. Tenet edits it personally and delivers it orally during his
early morning meeting with Bush."21 This practice of "oral
intelligence briefings" is unprecedented. Bush's predecessors at the
White House, received a written briefing:

"With Bush, who liked oral briefings and the CIA director in
attendance, a strong relationship had developed. Tenet could be
direct, even irreverent and earthy."22 '.....
......................
google 'saudi bush riggs bank 911'

www.democrats.com/node/2678

Saudi Princess Al-Faisal,wife of longtime Bush family friend Prince
Bandar,Riggs Bank account where Bush's uncle Jonathan is a director

The Riggs Bank Scandal: Pinochet, the CIA, Saudis, 9/11...and...Jonathan Bush!
Submitted by Ted Kahl on January 18, 2005 - 4:01pm. Bush Scandals
Speaking of Bush scandals...here's my personal favorite of the last
four years -- the Riggs Bank scandal. Jack Shafer has written some
recent articles about Riggs Bank's long relationship with the CIA
(going back to the Bay of Pigs, and later, a CIA operation in Iran),
based on an investigation by Wall Street Journal writer Glenn Simpson.
(See "The CIA and Riggs Bank: A Wall Street Journal story that the
press gang should chase" and "The Spook Bank")

Most articles about Riggs focus on the Pinochet accounts, but downplay
the Saudi accounts -- and outright ignore the 9/11 connection. And of
course, these articles almost never mention that Uncle Jonathan Bush
is a top Riggs executive. Back when we wrote our "Top Bush Scandals of
2003", we included this mention of Riggs Bank under our #4 scandal,
"The 9/11 Coverup".

First the White House dragged out the release of the entire 800-page
congressional report on 9/11. Then they redacted the key 28 pages
about Saudi financing of the 9/11 attacks. What deeply damaging
information is in these 28 pages?

...Do these 28 pages establish if Saudi Princess Al-Faisal, wife of
longtime Bush family friend Prince Bandar, did in fact fund two of the
hijackers? Do they reveal if those funds came from her Riggs Bank
account where Bush's uncle Jonathan is a director? At this point, we
can only guess. Interestingly, when the Saudi Embassy got wind of the
FBI investigation into the Princess' finances, they sent over
employees to review the checks issued from her bank account. Did Riggs
officials help the Saudis scrub the records?

Do these 28 pages follow the money trail back from those same two
hijackers -- Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaq al-Hazmi -- to Omar
al-Bayoumi? Al-Bayoumi is the Saudi "student" who received $3000 per
month from Hamid al-Rashid, a top official of the Saudi Civil Aviation
authority, whose son is linked to Al Qaeda. Did al-Rashid develop the
sophisticated plan for the hijackings in collaboration with Al Qaeda?

For more about Riggs Bank, enter "riggs" at our old search engine.

IMHO, this really is THE great ignored scandal of the last four years.
Have you ever heard it mentioned on the Nightly News???

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size_of_light
22-10-2008, 04:59 PM
Obama Biden / Osama Bin Laden could be some kind of striking law of attraction thing, because I can't see any way that 'they' would have the power to engineer something like that (I could be wrong, I guess).

Firstly, they would have had to select all three based on their surnames before birth, and groomed Barak Obama, Joe Biden and Osama Bin Laden virtually from day one to ensure that they all headed in converging directions.

They would have had to covertly micromanage their lives to an extraordinary degree, and also significantly influenced the lives and decisions of a lot of other people they came into contact with at critical junctures, in order to get the circumstances and timing of all this just right.

Assuming it was the case, however, to have put so much time and effort into doing it, leads to the inevitable conclusion that they must see some extraordinary symbolic significance in the actual names themselves.

This is probably speculation best left to the symbolism forum, though, as I'm getting way off topic.

deckard
22-10-2008, 05:00 PM
FOLKS THIS INFORMATION IS COMING DIRECT TO YOU FROM F.B.I DIVISION #5. THE SAME AGENCY BEHIND THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN F. KENNEDY. TOM BROKAW IS AN F.B.I DIVISION #5 AGENT! INQUISITIONAL, F.B.I TIED IN WITH NASA, BOEING ALONG WITH DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL SECURITY COMMAND OF DENVER. BROKAW HAS TIES TO JESUIT FORTRESSES, BOSTON COLLEGE & FAIRFIELD UNIVERSITY ALONG WITH ROMAN CATHOLIC, UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME & PROVIDENCE COLLEGE! NOW BARE IN MIND THAT ROBERT F. KENNEDY SPOKE OF A BLACK PRESIDENT IN FORTY YEARS BACK IN 1968. THE TIME HAS COME! WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS BOBBY? DEAD! READ BETWEEN THE LINES. I STILL BELIEVE JOHN MCCAIN WILL BE THE NEXT U.S PRESIDENT AS HE IS THE ARCHBISOP OF NY'S (SMOM NAVIGATOR) GOLDEN TESTICLE. LETS NOT FORGET HOW THE SOCIETY OF JESUS HAS ALSO FUNDED ROMAN CATHOLIC, JOE BIDEN'S SON HUNTER TO THE TUNE OF $80,000 THROUGH THEIR MILITARY FORTRESS, THE UNIVERSITY OF SCRANTON! HUNTER IS TRAINED BY JESUITS AT THEIR MOST POWERFUL FORTRESS KNOWN AS GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY. GEORGETOWN CONTROLLED BY FR' JAMES SHEA, SJ. SHEA, SJ & ARCHBISHOP DONALD WUERL CONTROL SENATOR JOE BIDEN. OBAMA IS CONTROLLED BY BOTH FR' JAMES SHEA, SJ AND FR' EDWARD W. SCHMIDT ALONG WITH ARCHBISOPS DONALD WUERL AND FRANCIS EUGENE! SO SEE HOW THE SOCIETY OF JESUS PULL BOTH STINGS? ALWAYS CONTROLLING THEIR CORPORATIONS! PLEASE NOTE HOW HUNTER BIDEN IS LINKED WITH THE RUSSELL TRUST ASSOCIATION'S, SKULL & BONES YALE UNIVERSITY. THE SAME UNIVERSITY ROMAN CATHOLIC EUAN BLAIR GRADUATED FROM AND THE SAME YALE WHERE HIS FATHER, ROMAN CATHOLIC, TONY BLAIR THE MALTESE KNIGHT RECENTLY TAUGHT GLOBALISM AT. -CRAIG OXLEY


Golden testicle....?

kappy0405
22-10-2008, 08:01 PM
couldnt this just tie in with the events leaked from Congress closed door meeting in March? The 'economic meltdown' has already happened right on cue. I think a financial collapse on the government level was predicted for late-jan/early-feb 2009. Then the 'civil war', fema camps, etc... all of which are in the early stages..

seems right on schedule to me. Powells/Bidens comments seem to be more evidence of it.

Also, for those who believe in their obsessino with symbology, 1/19 is 9/11 backwards.. Maybe they mean January 19th??

krakhead
22-10-2008, 08:06 PM
As there were 2 threads on this I've merged them together :)

simplify
22-10-2008, 11:26 PM
I get the sense that McCain (describing the Kennedy assassination as an 'intervention'), Biden (likening Obama to Kennedy, no less, and guaranteeing a crisis) and Powell (naming a date) are all communicating different elements of the same coming events.

Could Obama be the victim of an assasination or an assassination attempt (ala Kennedy) immediately following his inauguration (Jan 21 or 22), which will be (a crisis) blamed on a particular country, thereby creating a pretext for a war?

Are they subliminally communicating pieces of a message to the public at large (if so why?), or are the intended recipients of the message a specific person or persons?

My thoughts exactly; why are they giving signals to us (or to someone?) It seems strange that they would want to prepare/alert the public (they do not have that kind of compassion) I have had a strong feeling for a few months now that Obama will be assassinated shortly after he takes office. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so. These statements made by Powell, & others kinda tie in with the predictions by webott recently. Lots of unknowns for sure, but one would have to be deaf and blind to not see the writing on the wall now.

simplify
22-10-2008, 11:31 PM
Obama Biden / Osama Bin Laden could be some kind of striking law of attraction thing, because I can't see any way that 'they' would have the power to engineer something like that (I could be wrong, I guess).

Firstly, they would have had to select all three based on their surnames before birth, and groomed Barak Obama, Joe Biden and Osama Bin Laden virtually from day one to ensure that they all headed in converging directions.

They would have had to covertly micromanage their lives to an extraordinary degree, and also significantly influenced the lives and decisions of a lot of other people they came into contact with at critical junctures, in order to get the circumstances and timing of all this just right.

Assuming it was the case, however, to have put so much time and effort into doing it, leads to the inevitable conclusion that they must see some extraordinary symbolic significance in the actual names themselves.

This is probably speculation best left to the symbolism forum, though, as I'm getting way off topic.

I wish Rik Clay were alive to figure this one out.

size_of_light
22-10-2008, 11:32 PM
My thoughts exactly; why are they giving signals to us (or to someone?) It seems strange that they would want to prepare/alert the public (they do not have that kind of compassion) I have had a strong feeling for a few months now that Obama will be assassinated shortly after he takes office. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so. These statements made by Powell, & others kinda tie in with the predictions by webott recently. Lots of unknowns for sure, but one would have to be deaf and blind to not see the writing on the wall now.

This might sound crazy at first, but the more you think about it the more it makes sense...

Obama, whatever his faults (many!) isn't stupid enough not to realise what's going on (I think).

Also it seems like they've invested a lot of time and effort in training him with NLP to be a brilliantly hypnotic orator who looks like he's up there with Hitler.

I can't see them wasting an asset like that by just flat out killing him as soon as he gets to the top.

But if they staged an attempted assassination, it gets exactly the same result in terms of public outrage, keeps their asset intact, and explains why Obama would be going along with the whole thing, knowing that he's in no real danger at all.

simplify
22-10-2008, 11:56 PM
This might sound crazy at first, but the more you think about it the more it makes sense...

Obama, whatever his faults (many!) isn't stupid enough not to realise what's going on (I think).

Also it seems like they've invested a lot of time and effort in training him with NLP to be a brilliantly hypnotic orator who looks like he's up there with Hitler.

I can't see them wasting an asset like that by just flat out killing him as soon as he gets to the top.

But if they staged an attempted assassination, it gets exactly the same result in terms of public outrage, keeps their asset intact, and explains why Obama would be going along with the whole thing, knowing that he's in no real danger at all.

Yea, I've wondered also why Obama is still out there, knowing that he could be killed, unless like you say, a fake attack would also give them what they want, without loosing him. Highly possible. We really don't fully understand how tptb work or how they think.

realdeal
06-11-2008, 03:52 AM
-O- British troops are deployed overseas to keep them out of the UK whilst country is dismantled.

05/11/2008
http://cpexposed.com/news.php


As the lady in red has commented it is becoming increasingly apparent that British regular Army and Royal Marine units are being deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan to keep them out of UK whilst the country is dismantled from within and handed over to the European Union. Similar degradation to Royal Navy and now nlp in nuclear submarines. See archives Military. The commitment of reserve forces overseas is designed to ensure that UK troops will not be available to help contain violence on the streets, which is the next phase of the EU subversion plan. Unable to cope on their own, and with the UK Army overseas, the UK police forces will be supplemented by armed European police (operating under military law), and above the law. Once here they will never leave. Penetration by common purpose into Ministry of Defence and operational higher staff, human resource and procurement staffs will ensure that common sense decision making will be blurred and obfuscated to promote the new socio political common purpose. Is government backed Common Purpose nlp training really helping to diffuse Muslim militancy? Look in the mirror. Does diversity training divide?


The betrayal of troops wounded and seriously injured in Iraq and Afghanistan and the dismantlement of quality military medical treatment facilities in UK has been designed to help destroy morale of those injured and those fighting. Are treatment clinics safe? Is nlp part of therapy? Which private firms and individuals have been given responsibility for helping these vulnerable individuals? Is the rank kernel of the matter a voice to push some over the edge? Some informed would say so.

realdeal
02-12-2008, 03:33 AM
craig-oxley,nov 29 2008, 05:14 am:
i wouldn't like to be the stock markets with the day of yarikh. If we see yarikh, astarte and baal together well i'd expect death. Remember astarte is the goddess of war, creation and death. You'll also notice yarikh day is the start of week 49 of 2008. Therefore we get the 36 of the mazzaroth/circle being the 666. Funny how the beast 666 aleister crowley died on this date. Note also how yarikh is within the saturnalian (el) controlled capricorn of the death raven. She will come out of the raven for aquarius on the day of reseph the following day. Let's see what happens if anything. -craig oxley
conjuction of baal, yarikh, astarte in the el deity triangle -craig

mo(o)nday 1 dec 2008

ftse 100 4065.49down -222.52 -5.19%
dax 4394.79down -274.65 -5.88%
cac 40 3080.43down -182.25 -5.59%
dow jones 8149.09down -679.95 -7.70%
nasdaq 1398.07down -137.50 -8.95%
bbc global 30 4905.43no movement
mexico bolsa index 19,533.08 -1,001.64 -4.88%
nikkei 225 8397.22down -115.05
dj euro stoxx 50 € pr 2,288.39 -141.92 -5.84%
cac 40 index 3,080.43 -182.25 -5.59%
dax index 4,394.79 -274.65 -5.88%
ibex 35 index 8,510.50 -400.10 -4.49%
s&p/mib index 18,736.00 -1,249.00 -6.25%
aex-index 235.50 -17.05 -6.75%
omx stockholm 30 index 607.09 -34.65 -5.40%
swiss market index 5,527.58 -289.02 -4.97%

brent crude oil $/barrel 50.76 0.00 0.0
west texas intermediate crude oil $/barrel 51.67 0.00 0.0
forex gold index $/oz 778.00 36.50 4.5
coffee "c" futures us cents/pound 111.65 2.10 1.8
copper 3mo unofficial confirmed $/m tonne 3612.50 0.00 0.0

£$ - 1.4904

fsa closes london
scottish bank

mon 01 dec 2008
http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharecast...tory_id=2486790 (http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharecast/story.cgi?story_id=2486790)


london (sharecast) - struggling consumer finance group london scottish bank has gone in to administration after the financial services authority stopped it accepting new deposits after it failed a source of new funds to boost its regulatory capital position.

The firm has been trying to find a buyer, but said this morning that while a number of parties were interested, there was no certainty of any offer or that its regulatory capital shortfall could be remedied in the short to medium term.

In view of this, the fsa yesterday imposed a requirement on the company's permission to prevent it from accepting deposits and the company is therefore unable to renew maturing deposits. As a result lsb put itself into administration.

Ernst & young have been appointed as joint administrators while the hm treasury and the financial services compensation scheme have confirmed that no fscs eligible claimant will lose any money on their deposits as a result of the administration.

02 dec 2008 - british media cover-up the collapse of london scottish bank. Theres no mainstream coverage at all on the subject. Their petrified of bank runs crippling bankrupt u.k. Seems mo(o)nday was the day i was predicting. That conjunction worked its evil magic yesterday. So if you want to hear about baby p/hillary/mp big bro then your okay, ask for the bank collapse and you'll get a kick in the teeth!. Also stock markets kaned 5-7%+ baal is relentless in his death. -craig oxley

i broke this news within 12 minutes of it happening. I gave you more information than sky news did back then. Then what happens? Their all told to shut-up about it. I noticed on the bbc tv menu they had the information on there at 18:30 but hidden at the end. Later at around 20:00 there was no evidence at all of the original hidden article. This is the type of news reporting we have, what simply suits the elite and not the people, simply entertainment. Simply cretins of british intelligence who incidentially controls associated press and reuters. The two cretinous liars and cover-up scam artists who supply all the media outlets their trash and social engineering programmes for your computer brain. What part of the brain they've left open with all their dumbing down chemicals and frequencies. See through this maltese trash quick or be buried with the depression coming june 2009. I was saying last december and before that the u.s was in a recession, but no the hype scam artists claimed different. Now we see it's admitted now that they were in recession back in december 2007. So prepare and get ready, if you don't you'll be panicing and crying june, i assure you. If you see any site without this information please make sure they know of this collapse immediately! -craig oxley

who was right again? Thankyou!

madthumbs
02-12-2008, 04:35 AM
You are Oxley, 2tuff, etc. :rolleyes:

realdeal
03-12-2008, 04:08 AM
Craig is banned from this site for speaking the truth for some reason. I enjoy posting his interesting work. Take your anger direct to him and not me for helping people.

realdeal
03-12-2008, 04:08 AM
A date I worry about right now apart from the obvious months of February and June is as follows; April 22nd 2009. This lands on the day of Taaut the God linked to commerce. We also notice that Yarikh enters into Aries but so does the dreaded God of war, Reseph. Whats more important is how theres a Yarikh occultation of Astarte on this day. These Gods are all linked to commerce! This will happen over North-America and whats located in North-America? Why it's New York City the Financial Capital of that continent. Remember the entire U.S economy is due to fold completely in June and this date is only just 38 days prior. You may want to note the 11 from the 3+8 and of course within the 22nd. Also note it's within week 17 which when added to February we get 22. Also note how 1+7=8 which is 'New Beginnings,' it sure will be when the full collapse gets started. Like I said, keep your eyes on the deadly Reseph lurking for war. We'll see just one other Yarikh occultations of Astarte and this is early in the February 2009 on the 28th. Remember we see 28 coming by way of 4 multipled by 7 also giving up a judgement from the God El being 11. Also 47 is symbolism of the passing on of the spirit linked in with death.
-CRAIG OXLEY.

madthumbs
03-12-2008, 04:42 AM
Craig is banned from this site for speaking the truth for some reason. I enjoy posting his interesting work. Take your anger direct to him and not me for helping people.

No, I believe he/you was/were banned for spreading/promoting racial hate.

Let me remind you of this:

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chris
03-12-2008, 05:40 PM
Let's see what happens if anything. -craig oxley

Holy Cow, that was spot on.

realdeal
04-12-2008, 09:03 AM
Lets just think about it for a minute. We know the Depression is to come in June which is mid-2009. If they can get this up and running then Russia is sorted as such with financial payment maybe but... Well think about it, if it's running around June then the Jesuit Empire can have an excuse to just prior hit a false terrorist strike. This would result in the false blaming of Iran and a Global allie war on Iran. The sudden oil crisis which will come from it with the straits of Hommuz would help to veil the collapse of the economy. The profane will forget the months of economic turmoil and instead fully blame Iran for the Depression and total economic collapse. The collapse will not effect this Crusade unlike times of old. Funny money will make sure that continues as we live in hell. The profane will sign up to the military to fight the Arabs controlled by Gulen. The trouble is these sheople will be fighting an enemy controlled by the very Dragon clique which control Gulen, this is the Vatican. This is the plan. Also when the U.S defaults who do you think will be the bailiffs? Russia & China! All a Jesuit plan to finally put an end to Reformation united states of America now in their mitts as the United States. Soon to be within a Union of North America controlled from Roman Catholic, Montreal with Denver another the powerbase eventually within the U.S. Just watch and see. -Craig

Moscow races to finish Iran's
Bushehr reactor by mid-2009

Wednesday, Dec 03, 2008
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5754


DEBKAfile's Iranian and Moscow sources report that Atomstroiexport, the Russian firm under contract to build and activate Iran's nuclear reactor at Bushehr, is offering nuclear engineers and technicians top salaries to leave for Iran at short notice. The Kremlin has promised Tehran to have the reactor up and running by mid-2009. Some 1,600 experts are already at work on the site; the project is short of another 500 to meet this deadline.

An Atomstroiexport spokesman explained this week that the main technology for the station has already been installed "so the construction work is getting under way." Our Iranian sources report that this is the first time Russian officials have admitted that the Bushehr reactor is close to completion.

Sergei Kiriyenko, director of the Russian company, visited Tehran on Nov. 27 to tie up the final stage of the reactor's construction. Kiriyenko, former Russian prime minister and personal emissary of the incumbent prime minister Vladimir Putin, again assured the Iranians that the reactor would be ready to go within a few months.

Our sources add that the Bushehr plant will make it possible for Iran to produce plutonium for nuclear weapons. Its completion will provide Iran with an alternative weapons fuel option in addition to the enriched uranium already accumulated for its first nuclear bomb. US and Israel intelligence had believed the plutonium track lagged behind the uranium process. However, now that Moscow has embarked on a crash program to finish the Bushehr project, this no longer holds true.

realdeal
06-12-2008, 07:26 AM
Chris, Craig is always close or spot on. You've been a traitor to him since he helped you clean up your disease. Your choice of course but strange.

realdeal
06-12-2008, 07:27 AM
Bush Issues "War Risk" memo for the Black Sea

4 Dec 2008
http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/


The White House -- On November 26, President Bush issued a memorandum to the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Transportation and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget with the following SUBJECT: Provision of Marine War Risk Insurance Coverage.

The president seems to know that some type of war situation is going to exist in the Black Sea. That has ominous implications as evidenced by the map below.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/black-sea-map.png

The Black Sea is bordered by Russia and other nations, and would provide a close-in position from which the US Navy could launch air and missile strikes against northern Iran.

Whether Russia would tolerate the US launching attacks upon Iran from inside the Black Sea is a real question. The Russian Navy has an entire fleet in the Black Sea. They are quite capable of confronting any US Naval presence there.

Since Russia announced last week that they would be helping Iran complete its nuclear power stations next year, I think the Russians would have real "issues" with anyone trying to attack and destroy those nuclear plants.

Stay tuned, this could get dicey.

White House War Risk Memo Here:

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
November 26, 2008
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/11/20081126-7.html

Memorandum for the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Transportation and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget

SUBJECT: Provision of Marine War Risk Insurance Coverage

November 25, 2008

By virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, including 3 U.S.C. 301 and 46 U.S.C. chapter 539, I hereby approve the provision by the Secretary of Transportation of insurance or reinsurance of vessels (including cargo and crew) against loss or damage from war risks in the manner and to the extent provided in chapter 539 of title 46, United States Code, for trade in the Black Sea, whenever, after consultation with the Secretary of State, it appears to the Secretary of Transportation that such insurance adequate for the needs of the water-borne commerce of the United States cannot be obtained on reasonable terms and conditions from companies authorized to do insurance business in a State of the United States. To the extent individual policies involve an exposure in excess of the amounts available in the War Risk Revolving Fund, such policies may be issued only after consultation with the Office of Management and Budget. This approval to provide insurance or reinsurance is effective for 90 days, except that existing policies shall remain in force pursuant to the terms of these policies. I hereby delegate to the Secretary of Transportation, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the authority vested in me by 46 U.S.C. 53902 and 53905.

The Secretary of Transportation is directed to bring the approval to the immediate attention of all U.S.-flag vessel operators and to arrange for its publication in the Federal Register.

GEORGE W. BUSH

realdeal
06-12-2008, 08:01 AM
Does the United States expect a new war?

11:38 | 04/ 12/ 2008
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20081204/118680357.html


MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti military correspondent Ilya Kramnik) - The U.S. administration decided to insure American merchant vessels in the Black Sea against military risks until next March. Many analysts saw this as a sign of a possible early armed conflict in the Black Sea region.

This has never been a calm region. A centuries-long confrontation between Russia/U.S.S.R. and Turkey has given way to hot spots in the post-Soviet space. The region attracts the attention of all leading countries because of its location. Tensions in relations between Russia and its neighbors, primarily Georgia, are fraught with a new armed conflict, in which third countries may be involved in one way or another.

As distinct from a new Russian-Georgian conflict with Ukraine's participation (most probably, indirect) the risk of war between Russia and Ukraine is negligible; still, Ukrainian government and military leaders with anti-Russian attitudes may seek provocation. Regardless, there is a high probability of conflicts in Ukraine. The country is being torn apart by profound contradictions that are further aggravated by the global economic crisis. It is hard to predict how they will develop.

The U.S. decision to insure merchant vessels shows that Washington also considers the risk of an armed conflict in the region to be high. This most likely has nothing to do with the direct participation of U.S. citizens in military operations. In the case of an armed conflict, all vessels in the region would be subjected to certain risks. A mistake in identifying a target or a missile misfire may lead to the destruction of a neutral vessel.

It remains uncertain whether the U.S. made this decision based on a general risk assessment, or in anticipation of concrete events. In the latter case, it is directly linked with the continued restoration of the Georgian army's operational capability, and the transfer of Ukrainian military units to Russia's borders.

Considering the sad experience of the five-day war, the Georgian leaders are bound to realize that by going to war again, they will achieve the same results, only with worse consequences. In this situation, demonstrative shifting of Ukrainian troops toward the border may seriously help Tbilisi by side-tracking part of Russia's forces.

The appearance of U.S. warships in the Black Sea would serve the same purpose. The best ships in the Black Sea Navy, including its flagship missile cruiser Moskva, will have to be engaged in a standoff. In the meantime, the insured U.S. merchant ships will continue delivering military cargoes to Georgian ports.

This strategy is unlikely to have the desired effect, for the weight gap between Russia and Georgia is too huge. Nonetheless, imbalanced Georgian leaders may make illogical decisions and penalize themselves.

The opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.

logic bomb
06-12-2008, 08:10 AM
I like the way you are using the David Icke forum to promote yourself and yet only an hour ago you wrote another post in your David Icke is an Agent thread on your own forum slagging the man off.

chris
06-12-2008, 11:13 AM
Traitor? That's a bit harsh...I've always stuck up for Craig on here. It's Phelps who I would't touch with a ten foot poll.

I just don't understand YOU. Why are YOU here, I don't even know you.

I was into all that Jesuit stuff but then I realised that I was doing nothing but attacking people that are making a difference, i.e. Alex Jones.

I just want to beat these fuckers, not get suckered into infighting.

xpleet
06-12-2008, 11:20 AM
I was into all that Jesuit stuff but then I realised that I was doing nothing but attacking people that are making a difference, i.e. Alex Jones.

I wish someone would tell this to all the anti-zionist/jesuit people.

keystone
06-12-2008, 11:31 AM
I wish someone would tell this to all the anti-zionist/jesuit people.and the anti-masons please as well.

madthumbs
06-12-2008, 12:09 PM
How exactly is Jones or Oxley (realdeal) making a difference?

chris
06-12-2008, 01:06 PM
I think the question should be, how are you making a difference?

91181
06-12-2008, 02:05 PM
How exactly is Jones or Oxley (realdeal) making a difference?



Oxley made a difference in my life by teaching me about alternitive medicane ,as a result i no longer need to take the medication i was on. So yeah im very gratfull he dosnt sit on his ass all day doing fuck all and is actually trying to educate people about this system and its devious ways...

realdeal
07-12-2008, 08:31 AM
Traitor? That's a bit harsh...I've always stuck up for Craig on here. It's Phelps who I would't touch with a ten foot poll.

I just don't understand YOU. Why are YOU here, I don't even know you.

I was into all that Jesuit stuff but then I realised that I was doing nothing but attacking people that are making a difference, i.e. Alex Jones.

I just want to beat these fuckers, not get suckered into infighting.

Alex Jones Pffft he's causing more trouble than he's worth and his Catholic buddies. Your a disgrace and traitor to The Un-Hived Mind thats all I have to say.

realdeal
07-12-2008, 08:34 AM
Why are you all thinking I'm Craig for? I'm getting a little fed up of all of it. Please refain from calling me Craig, I have not the knowledge or body of this being. I enjoy Craig's work very much, why do you harp at me for just trying to help? Leave me alone okay. What Craig decides about David Icke is his own business, I don't trust David either. Regardless any good info must hit all the people. Deal with it.

accuracy
13-12-2008, 04:29 AM
Fuck you too.

accuracy
13-12-2008, 04:31 AM
Why are you all thinking I'm Craig for? I'm getting a little fed up of all of it. Please refain from calling me Craig, I have not the knowledge or body of this being. I enjoy Craig's work very much, why do you harp at me for just trying to help? Leave me alone okay. What Craig decides about David Icke is his own business, I don't trust David either. Regardless any good info must hit all the people. Deal with it.


You are craig oxley :D

Fuck off.

accuracy
13-12-2008, 04:36 AM
YOU should be banned realdeal for promoting
propaganda :)

accuracy
13-12-2008, 04:40 AM
craig i believe in GOD oxley,

Fuck off

keystone
13-12-2008, 10:49 AM
Why are you all thinking I'm Craig for? I'm getting a little fed up of all of it. Please refain from calling me Craig, I have not the knowledge or body of this being. I enjoy Craig's work very much, why do you harp at me for just trying to help?Then why are you acting like his gatekeeper?

accuracy
17-12-2008, 08:09 AM
Then why are you acting like his gatekeeper?


How true! At first i thought realdeal was a knocker of craig, obviously
i pm'd the wrong guy HaaaaaHhAAAAAAAAAAA:D

accuracy
17-12-2008, 08:12 AM
It's soooo good to be back online after a few days of no connection:D

eternal_spirit
17-12-2008, 08:43 AM
How true! At first i thought realdeal was a knocker of craig, obviously
i pm'd the wrong guy HaaaaaHhAAAAAAAAAAA:D
:D

check this out Seems he's batting for Yahweh aka Adonai these days (figures)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=673433&postcount=5

QUOTE OXLEY
This Mo0n5star mystery religion pusher has been removed from this site. An comment I had back from this moron was:


QUOTE OXLEY
Cry baby faggot.

Get back to your 1611 AV bullshit and homosexual King James.



First of all who claims King James is a homosexual and can you prove it? Just another profane listening too much to agents such as Jordan Maxwell. Agents our to further try and destroy the King James AV1611 as the word of God. So whilst these agents claim to be enemies of our enemy they are infact deviously doing their bidding whilst controlling the opposition. These profane are too stupid to see what the enemy is doing and then do the opposite. So when the Jesuits in command of the Knights Of Malta/Templars/Assassins decide to attack the KJAV1611 then use your loafs. You should then study this Bible based on the Textus Receptus and see why they do this. Why would they attack a Bible exactly? Whats in there different to their false Jesuit Douay Bible. Use your brain cells or perish under the cloak of your local Archbishop.

I see and hear from others of people attacking me for making sure the King James Bible is defended. Well I was once a profane sheople who thought I knew it all. I learnt I did not know it all. I was infact being guided by a devious hand to promote and believe the Babylonian Mystery Religion. I'd learn the enemy but not that I was practising their religion as such. Now I see clearly their tricks and their Jordan Maxwell's. I know to defend something which the enemy trys to destroy. I use what God Adonai gave me, a brain for all you profane idiots. So apart from your own idiotic actions moonstar (minister) you also have this accuracy profane sheep to thank for my actions. That rubber gob going off at people privately to bad mouth my site for having much religions content. He forgets how his nation was once great whilst it was a Bible believer. Now it doesn't its a hellpit which he complains about. Do the math profane ones.

http://phoenicia.org/adonis.html

http://www.adonim.com/articles/whatmeansAdonai.html

romas
17-12-2008, 09:15 AM
rawr me talks bigger then you.


Loel ;)

romas
17-12-2008, 09:19 AM
Golden testicle....?


Metaphor for uber-fertility? :confused:

accuracy
18-12-2008, 10:24 AM
Metaphor for uber-fertility? :confused:


HaaaHaaaaa, well said!:):D