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illuminati downfall
28-11-2008, 05:45 AM
I was thinking about this while washing the dishes tonight for some reason. It occurred to me that unless I am wrong, the governments of the world, likely have access to some, if not most, of what we do on the internet. I'm not sure they can track who is who really, by username, but of course they know that sites like this exist.They must be well aware by now that people like us do indeed know a bit about what's going on. Now, of course it occurred to me that, looking at this from the point of view of the Illuminati and the highly ranked people wanting to form the NWO, truth seekers such as ourselves, in small numbers must be downright annoying , but not really very threatening. However there are others who have really spent a good amount of time seriously figuring things out. They have writing books, done interviews, etc. all to try and inform as many of the masses as they can. Now if enough people were to wake up and see the truth now, I wou8ld think the plans of the big power trippers would be shot all to heck. However, we are still allowed to seek the truth, (thank goodness) Books have not been censored, internet free media sites, such as you tube have not been over taken. Nothing like that. The evidence uncovered by those who have really dared to look for it, is reaching more and more people, and yet it looks like it's going to be allowed to reach even more, (again thank goodness.) It occurred to me that that's actually kind of freaky that we are pretty much allowed to figure out what we can, and to pass it around at will. Have these thoughts ever really occurred to anyone else? What are your thoughts on the matter? :confused:

deafbred
28-11-2008, 12:18 PM
inbred ......what else do we need to know....



...i been washing a lot of dishes lately



i know they're trying to breed us deaf dumb blind etc


i want to see the day when everyone stops worshiping gold

don't the elite have most of the gold..




...time they know their running out of

they been living on borrowed time this whole time



...time...the timing...


we're waiting for the bell to ring?

the silent alarm and alarms alarming....

....what are we waiting for?

the patience from a continuing haste of a goal that hasn't been reached


maybe, they, want, to hear us

that's why they tap phones

they need 'solutions' to their problems

we have answers

we are their problem

their solutions are our problem

they use our resolve to dissolve their problem

a revolving door of continued insanity

....compost completion


one day their going to stop time...on their terms

then

what they thought was 'their' time

will end


then time will never be delayed again

for the timeless presence in the now

will never be faded or overshadowed with doubts and fears or questions
to fulfill the void of a lost content

oddblock
28-11-2008, 12:45 PM
I think there's enough outlandish stuff that us so called "conspiracy theorists" discuss that they just let us get on with it as nobody would really believe us nutters.

It's part of the illusion of being free.

They'd say things like, "Oh those guys? They think 9/11 was an inside job? Well they also believe the world is being controlled by an alien race of lizard-men"

kingmonkey
28-11-2008, 02:42 PM
I think there's enough outlandish stuff that us so called "conspiracy theorists" discuss that they just let us get on with it as nobody would really believe us nutters.

It's part of the illusion of being free.

They'd say things like, "Oh those guys? They think 9/11 was an inside job? Well they also believe the world is being controlled by an alien race of lizard-men"

The actual facts of what's going on are probably well and truly lost in a sea of bullshit anyway. I'm pretty sure a lot of researchers don't get silenced because they're either way off the mark or shills.


The only way anything will change is if society suddenly grows a conscience and some empathy.

Us here in the west have it too good. Nobody cares about social/political problems until it hits them. people need to lose some freedoms and some comforts to see what's going on. You can tell people about all this shit until you're blue in the face, but unless they see it with their own eyes no one will believe you.

binkbonk
03-12-2008, 03:16 PM
The actual facts of what's going on are probably well and truly lost in a sea of bullshit anyway. I'm pretty sure a lot of researchers don't get silenced because they're either way off the mark or shills.I couldn't agree more.

Us here in the west have it too good. Nobody cares about social/political problems until it hits them. people need to lose some freedoms and some comforts to see what's going on.When we've all got flat screen tv's, there's nothing to complain about
You can tell people about all this shit until you're blue in the face, but unless they see it with their own eyes no one will believe you."It's a rare person who wants to hear what he doesn't want to hear". -Dick Cavett

randypeters
03-12-2008, 04:37 PM
They don't stop us from knowing the truth because

- the truth wants to be known
- the truth is a distraction, which keeps us running in circles.

The real truth is that our battles are all on a personal level - we should only be concerned with our personal development, on a spiritual level.

This place is a prison for our minds & bodies, but many fail to realize the ticket is our spirit & soul.

grenadene
03-12-2008, 05:48 PM
The actual facts of what's going on are probably well and truly lost in a sea of bullshit anyway. I'm pretty sure a lot of researchers don't get silenced because they're either way off the mark or shills.


The only way anything will change is if society suddenly grows a conscience and some empathy.

Us here in the west have it too good. Nobody cares about social/political problems until it hits them. people need to lose some freedoms and some comforts to see what's going on. You can tell people about all this shit until you're blue in the face, but unless they see it with their own eyes no one will believe you.

Spot on :)

I also don't believe tptb have half of the powers we attribute to them, that's why they shuffle along at the pace they do. Making sneaky little changes here and there. They aren't in a position to round us all up and shoot us or switch off internet as there would be public uproar! Public opinion is everything else they would try to spin us like they do. We as a society have to ask for lunatics like us to be rounded up. They are scared of angry mobs as they can't predict the outcome of a spontaneous uprising. They can only drum up this demand from the public - which to be fair they are pretty good at!

Fortunately, and we mustn't forget this, there are good people at all levels of society battling away to prevent further centralisation of power and other assorted 'bad stuff'!

binkbonk
03-12-2008, 06:14 PM
The real truth is that our battles are all on a personal level - we should only be concerned with our personal development, on a spiritual level.

This place is a prison for our minds & bodies, but many fail to realize the ticket is our spirit & soul.Really? Is that "really" what's going on? I agree that we should be concerned with our own personal development, but... Spirit? Soul? I used to believe we have a soul/spirit wholeheartedly, but more and more I'm realizing it to just be a fantasy, like Santa.

Do we really have a soul? Couldn't spirituality just be a desire that manifests as a feeling, and in our imagination that there is a spirit/soul?

Spirituality, to me, is seeming more like a mild form of insanity these days.

But, that said, you are free in your mind so personal development is very important.

awakensong
04-12-2008, 12:49 AM
They don't stop us from knowing the truth because

- the truth wants to be known
- the truth is a distraction, which keeps us running in circles.

The real truth is that our battles are all on a personal level - we should only be concerned with our personal development, on a spiritual level.

This place is a prison for our minds & bodies, but many fail to realize the ticket is our spirit & soul.
I agree with this, and would add that PERHAPS the Illuminat/ PTB are in position to help awaken the sleeping to these facts, which is another reason we are allowed to know and discuss it.

The problem I see with my own theory is that they have either forgotten their mission and purpose, or they are getting giddy with power and all bets are off.

awakensong
04-12-2008, 12:56 AM
Really? Is that "really" what's going on? I agree that we should be concerned with our own personal development, but... Spirit? Soul? I used to believe we have a soul/spirit wholeheartedly, but more and more I'm realizing it to just be a fantasy, like Santa.

Do we really have a soul? Couldn't spirituality just be a desire that manifests as a feeling, and in our imagination that there is a spirit/soul?

Spirituality, to me, is seeming more like a mild form of insanity these days.

But, that said, you are free in your mind so personal development is very important.
Perhaps it would be more correct to call it all Consciousness? At some level we are more than we appear to be on this level, which IMO is definitely a prison though we are being deceived to believe it's all there is.

thethirdeye
04-12-2008, 01:31 AM
Let's be honest.... 70% of all people here, didn't realy understand the Matrix, and they are still stucked in their belief system, and desperately are trying to "harmonise" the theory of matrix with the theory of their believing, because... they don't want to go against their inner conflicts and believings they are still stucked in the matrix system... and they are far away from freedom... the other 20% are awakening... but nobody gets them serious, nobody believe them, and they are not realy awaken... they have began the process. The other 9% are more aware of the situation, maube they are talking more and know many things, but no treat for Illuminati. The other 1% are very educated, they know many things, but they are still unsure... The people that know the truth won't sit here to try to explain to the other people what their "view" of reality is...
Lets be honest... nobody here is real danger for Illuminati... Whatever we know, and howmuch we thing we know their tactics, the truth is WE ARE UNDER THEIR COMAND, BELIEVE IT OR NOT... While we are here discusing about, is christianity agains Illuminati or not, what is freedom, is David Icke the real person etc... we are in their hands all the time. Nobody is realy free... While the Muslims are defending the Kuran and the "Matrix 5" fans are defending the truth that the highest stage of our freedom and evolution is to be gay.... The others are talking about the beauty and goodness of Lucifer, and others are talking about... is David icke still drinking alcohol??? SO, we are not realy dangerous... We have long way to go.... I feel that I am still stucked in Matrix game... I don't know about you....

srry if I ofended someones beliefs, but this is my opinions about the situation...

peace

ianw
21-12-2008, 01:52 PM
They don't stop us from knowing the truth because

- the truth wants to be known
- the truth is a distraction, which keeps us running in circles.

The real truth is that our battles are all on a personal level - we should only be concerned with our personal development, on a spiritual level.

This place is a prison for our minds & bodies, but many fail to realize the ticket is our spirit & soul.

I read it through,donīt see any lies.It must be true.:)

marpat
21-12-2008, 02:06 PM
I was thinking about this while washing the dishes tonight for some reason. It occurred to me that unless I am wrong, the governments of the world, likely have access to some, if not most, of what we do on the internet. I'm not sure they can track who is who really, by username, but of course they know that sites like this exist.They must be well aware by now that people like us do indeed know a bit about what's going on. Now, of course it occurred to me that, looking at this from the point of view of the Illuminati and the highly ranked people wanting to form the NWO, truth seekers such as ourselves, in small numbers must be downright annoying , but not really very threatening. However there are others who have really spent a good amount of time seriously figuring things out. They have writing books, done interviews, etc. all to try and inform as many of the masses as they can. Now if enough people were to wake up and see the truth now, I wou8ld think the plans of the big power trippers would be shot all to heck. However, we are still allowed to seek the truth, (thank goodness) Books have not been censored, internet free media sites, such as you tube have not been over taken. Nothing like that. The evidence uncovered by those who have really dared to look for it, is reaching more and more people, and yet it looks like it's going to be allowed to reach even more, (again thank goodness.) It occurred to me that that's actually kind of freaky that we are pretty much allowed to figure out what we can, and to pass it around at will. Have these thoughts ever really occurred to anyone else? What are your thoughts on the matter? :confused:

They can track you by ISP. Although a lot of people think they can mask that I am sure there will be other ways of finding where people are.

Maybe it is allowed to exist because it is not a threat. If it is not a threa you have to ask yourself, is it true? how many times have people had their books burnt and been thrown in prison because of what they write yet these conspiracy writers are unhindered? this angle has got to be considered for completeness.

somethinganonymous
21-12-2008, 04:03 PM
Let's be honest.... 70% of all people here, didn't realy understand the Matrix, and they are still stucked in their belief system, and desperately are trying to "harmonise" the theory of matrix with the theory of their believing, because... they don't want to go against their inner conflicts and believings they are still stucked in the matrix system... and they are far away from freedom... the other 20% are awakening... but nobody gets them serious, nobody believe them, and they are not realy awaken... they have began the process. The other 9% are more aware of the situation, maube they are talking more and know many things, but no treat for Illuminati. The other 1% are very educated, they know many things, but they are still unsure... The people that know the truth won't sit here to try to explain to the other people what their "view" of reality is...
Lets be honest... nobody here is real danger for Illuminati... Whatever we know, and howmuch we thing we know their tactics, the truth is WE ARE UNDER THEIR COMAND, BELIEVE IT OR NOT... While we are here discusing about, is christianity agains Illuminati or not, what is freedom, is David Icke the real person etc... we are in their hands all the time. Nobody is realy free... While the Muslims are defending the Kuran and the "Matrix 5" fans are defending the truth that the highest stage of our freedom and evolution is to be gay.... The others are talking about the beauty and goodness of Lucifer, and others are talking about... is David icke still drinking alcohol??? SO, we are not realy dangerous... We have long way to go.... I feel that I am still stucked in Matrix game... I don't know about you....

srry if I ofended someones beliefs, but this is my opinions about the situation...

peace

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