Alien Autopsy

[chattanova]

So whats the story behind the 'alien autopsy' , is it a fake or is that what they want us to believe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQRCmko5cR0

:confused:

[hagbard_celine]

It's fake. At the riask of sounding immodest, I wasn't fooled by it even when it first came out. The "alien" is clearly foam rubber. Now Santilli and Shoefield have come clean and admitted it. They've even made a movie starring Ant and Dec!

[graflok]

... all of which makes me thing it's real. :)

[chattanova]

It's fake. At the riask of sounding immodest, I wasn't fooled by it even when it first came out. The "alien" is clearly foam rubber. Now Santilli and Shoefield have come clean and admitted it. They've even made a movie starring Ant and Dec!

Yeah, thats true , it does look like something fake. But who knows, with the technology the aliens are capabal of -why should they use one of themselves and not a hybrid to do the missions ?

[earthseed]

The thing is even if we got a real film I think our minds would call it fake out of fear and lack of experience with such beings.

[who elsie]

This story never seems to go away - even tho Ray Santilli has as much as admitted that the famous footage is faked. I have heard reports of people claiming to have seen this video (or something very similar to it) as far back as the mid-70's - way before Santilli came on the scene. Reg Presley claims in his book 'Wild Things...' that Santilli did indeed have some genuine footage of an alien autopsy very similar to the infamous one, but when he talked about going public with it, he and his family were threatened with all sorts. Having already committed to going public, he then was forced into faking a replica of the original footage, which he would try to pass off as the real thing. He nearly succeeded in that, but how much truth there is to this story, I don't know.

[sean~infinte]

im quite open minded about it

they say the real footage was ruined so they faked it and aparently around about like 1% of it is real footage in it

i rememebr when credo said the greys black eyes were goggles one scene in the autopsy shows them taking the black thing over there yes to reveal its real eyes as if they use it as goggles thats pretty interesting

and acording to the ant and dec movie based on it the government did act on it and somone got killed but wether tht was just for the movie i dunno

[hagbard_celine]

I'm not a skeptic and I've no doubt that the govt really did find aliens at Roswell, but this footage just seems too good to be true. Of all the things that could leak out: a letter, a faded photocopied photo, sneaked out of Area 51 in someone's shoe, this very revealling complete movie does; hardly! The story of how this reel fell into the hands of Santilli is incredulous. as if the govt would simply forget that they had something that vital and incriminating and leave it with the cameraman!:eek:

In the book on Roswell by Charles Berlitz (of foreign language phrasebook fame) there's the very kind of photo I mention. An office photocopy of a photo of two military policemen escorting an alien creature. the being is breathing through some kind of machine held by one of the soldiers.

[chattanova]

They didn't find any drink or food in the craft in roswell, so that is one more reason to believe they were hybrids, just special buildt to travel in space.
But there's one thing that annoys me, under the abduction (im not thinking specific about this video) ,didn't they check their stomach for food??
I never found any info about this... so another thoery might be that they came from a mothership not far away and didn't need food/water...(if they are supposed to eat at all)
Anyone knows anything if the stomach ever did get examined?

[sgabllab]

a doco came out a while back showing that it was fake. cant remember what it was called. but the guy who supplied the autopsy tape ended up saying that it was a remake of actual footage that he had witnessed. there was another guy who said when it came out he was blown away because it was similar to a movie he watched at walt disney's house.:eek:

[hagbard_celine]

Anyone knows anything if the stomach ever did get examined?

Did they even have a stomach? From what is reported, they tend not to have ears, vocal chords or genitals?

[chattanova]

Did they even have a stomach? From what is reported, they tend not to have ears, vocal chords or genitals?

Ive got most of my information from 'The day after Roswell' by Col. Philip Corso (The book Chris Everard are recommending in 'Secret Space').
And they were supposed to have almost the same inner organs as us but the sizes were different of course.
But what I find weird is that they couldn't tell if they were special buildt for space travel by the aliens or if it were the aliens themselves, since they couldn't find any food or drink in the craft.

Why didn't he write anything about the stomach on they(since they were supposed to have organs as us) I guess he didn't know.

So it's either that they are special robots or the mother-ship were close, but Corso personally thought they were special buildt.

Theres a lot of different versions of what happend, but this book is amazing.
You have got to read it sometime.

It covers alot, Corso were a member of president Eisenhower's National security council and former head of the Foreign Technology desk
at the US Army's Research & Development department and has come forward to reveal his personal stewardship of alien artifacts from the Roswell crash.
He tells us about: project moon base, HAARP, The intergalactic war, Teslas Death Ray, project corona, the 'real' cold war and
how he spearheaded the army's reverse-engineering project that led to todays: Integrated Circuit Chips, Fiberoptics, Lasers, Super-tenacity fibers and ''seeded'' the roswell alien technology to giants of american industry.

You might wonder why would he tell us all this.
Because he was very old when he wrote this and he would let the truth out before he died I guess.

Here's a interview done with him after the release of the book http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/corso.html

[graflok]

Glossary of terms as regards photographs and motion pictures of paranormal subjects:

Compelling: Interesting but too fuzzy to really see anything clearly.

Fake: Any photography of something paranormal that is clear and in-focus.

Hoax: See "Fake."

Inconclusive: Half-way between "compelling" and "fake."

Too good to be true: See "Fake."

Debunking: A paid announcement from a guy with a science degree saying it's "fake."

Proof: See "Debunking."

Impossible: Anything that contradicts "proof." A popular term used in "debunking."

Evidence: Something of no consequence in cases of paranormal events so there is no need to inspect or consider.

Testimony: See "evidence."

Witness: Someone who reports anything out of the ordinary.

Hallucinate: What all witnesses do all the time so there is no need to consider.

Authentic: A real photo but it's obviously just a guy in a suit. See "Debunking."

Missing: What any irrefutable photo or hard evidence of a paranormal subject is or will be very soon.

:D

[bigus_dickus]

i have seen another autopsy video of a dismembered supposed alien made by russians, that looked more real than this one.

[hagbard_celine]

Glossary of terms as regards photographs and motion pictures of paranormal subjects:

Compelling: Interesting but too fuzzy to really see anything clearly.

Fake: Any photography of something paranormal that is clear and in-focus.

Hoax: See "Fake."

Inconclusive: Half-way between "compelling" and "fake."

Too good to be true: See "Fake."

Debunking: A paid announcement from a guy with a science degree saying it's "fake."

Proof: See "Debunking."

Impossible: Anything that contradicts "proof." A popular term used in "debunking."

Evidence: Something of no consequence in cases of paranormal events so there is no need to inspect or consider.

Testimony: See "evidence."

Witness: Someone who reports anything out of the ordinary.

Hallucinate: What all witnesses do all the time so there is no need to consider.

Authentic: A real photo but it's obviously just a guy in a suit. See "Debunking."

Missing: What any irrefutable photo or hard evidence of a paranormal subject is or will be very soon.

:D

Nice one!:)

[hagbard_celine]

Ive got most of my information from 'The day after Roswell' by Col. Philip Corso (The book Chris Everard are recommending in 'Secret Space').
And they were supposed to have almost the same inner organs as us but the sizes were different of course.
But what I find weird is that they couldn't tell if they were special buildt for space travel by the aliens or if it were the aliens themselves, since they couldn't find any food or drink in the craft.

Why didn't he write anything about the stomach on they(since they were supposed to have organs as us) I guess he didn't know.

So it's either that they are special robots or the mother-ship were close, but Corso personally thought they were special buildt.

Theres a lot of different versions of what happend, but this book is amazing.
You have got to read it sometime.

It covers alot, Corso were a member of president Eisenhower's National security council and former head of the Foreign Technology desk
at the US Army's Research & Development department and has come forward to reveal his personal stewardship of alien artifacts from the Roswell crash.
He tells us about: project moon base, HAARP, The intergalactic war, Teslas Death Ray, project corona, the 'real' cold war and
how he spearheaded the army's reverse-engineering project that led to todays: Integrated Circuit Chips, Fiberoptics, Lasers, Super-tenacity fibers and ''seeded'' the roswell alien technology to giants of american industry.

You might wonder why would he tell us all this.
Because he was very old when he wrote this and he would let the truth out before he died I guess.

Here's a interview done with him after the release of the book http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/corso.html

Phillip Corso's book is defintiely on my list. I've just finished "Connecting the Dots" and "Exopolitics" by Paola Harris and they feature several interviews with Corso. He became a close friend to Harris and she almost seemed to see him as a father.

Other people interviewed in those books claim that some of the aleins don't eat food because they get all their nutrients from etheric energy fields.

[chattanova]

"It took from 2004 to 2007 to find out completely who made the scenes and who was responsible creatively. He's a showman in his own right, he's a magician, a sleight of hand, he's really a real fascinating guy," said Kiviat of the person he claims is behind the autopsy film. During my conversation with Kiviat, he said that he was only able to refer to the person he claims is responsible for the production of the Alien Autopsy Film as Mister M. "I simply cannot release the name of this individual at this time for reasons I cannot discuss," said Kiviat.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/aafilm_kiviat.html

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/8/15/f_aacellm_76ca17a.jpg

[woghd]

There were dozens of "alien autopsy" videos, which compells me to think that at least one of them is legit.

When something real is stolen or otherwise released into the field, the tactic usually used by the intelligence community is to dump a big pile of complete garbage out there with it. Much of it is made in advance, and stored away in case it is ever needed.

So when someone sneaks out an alien autopsy film (a real one), the black-ops guys dump 20 or so others out there, so the real one is lost in the confusion. Even if a reporter comes across the real-deal, he assumes it's just another bogus hoax, and it's treated as such. After it's tracked down the real one is collected, and the incident cleaned up, leaving only the bogus films.

Archangel

[graflok]

There were dozens of "alien autopsy" videos, which compells me to think that at least one of them is legit.

When something real is stolen or otherwise released into the field, the tactic usually used by the intelligence community is to dump a big pile of complete garbage out there with it. Much of it is made in advance, and stored away in case it is ever needed.

So when someone sneaks out an alien autopsy film (a real one), the black-ops guys dump 20 or so others out there, so the real one is lost in the confusion. Even if a reporter comes across the real-deal, he assumes it's just another bogus hoax, and it's treated as such. After it's tracked down the real one is collected, and the incident cleaned up, leaving only the bogus films.

Archangel

I agree.

A great deal of effort and money has gone into "debunking" this film -- even
the production of a feature film and numerous "simulations" (fakes).

I believe the original footage as shown on the Fox Network (of all places)
that was broadcast in the mid 90's is the real deal.
http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/25869/2006394978830147598_rs.jpg

I suspect that Ray Santilli (the promoter who found and presented the
footage) and some others were made an "offer they couldn't refuse" to say
that it was faked. Or, it may even have been presented in the first place with
the intention of later "debunking" to prevent someone else from showing
it first.

[hagbard_celine]

There were dozens of "alien autopsy" videos, which compells me to think that at least one of them is legit.

When something real is stolen or otherwise released into the field, the tactic usually used by the intelligence community is to dump a big pile of complete garbage out there with it. Much of it is made in advance, and stored away in case it is ever needed.

So when someone sneaks out an alien autopsy film (a real one), the black-ops guys dump 20 or so others out there, so the real one is lost in the confusion. Even if a reporter comes across the real-deal, he assumes it's just another bogus hoax, and it's treated as such. After it's tracked down the real one is collected, and the incident cleaned up, leaving only the bogus films.

Archangel

That's basically what happened in the "Alien Autopsy" movie with Ant and Dec.