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babylonwillfall
12-11-2008, 05:26 AM
Hi well ill make it short

Im wondering what information people can give me to why Haile Selassie I is never mentioned when it comes to the Queen Saxon - Coburg and JFK .. ?

Just to start with I mean to be honest i guess we all have a million questions to ask David Icke or Alex Jones but I never hear about His Majesty yet Alex Jones plays a lot of Bob Marleys music on his show..

Also to go further before Alex Jones & David Icke .. Rastafari already were onto the illuminati the new world order ie Babylon..

Anyway any information relating any of this would be greatly appreciated,

Jah Guide & Protect All Of You,

Bless,

Moicha

hokhmah
12-11-2008, 01:25 PM
Hi Babylonwillfall,

Welcome to the Forum. A very interesting question indeed. One which deserves more discussion and research. Personally, I have never seen or heard people like David Icke and others who are researching the illuminati, ever mention the ruling dynasty, bloodline and lineage of Emperor Heile Selassie I (and his royal ancesters), which I understand can be traced all the way back to the times of King Solomon.

You mentioned Alex Jones listening to and playing Bob Marley's music on his shows. Friend, the day Robert Nesta Marley fell to sleep (11th May 1981) was a very sad day indeed - his soul-lifting truth music lives on and inspires generation after generation of people to open their eyes to the truth, to fight this wicked Babylon system, and to resist those who seek to control the world and enslave humanity. R.I.P. Bob Marley.

Perhaps it would open up the discussion more if you expressed the Rastafarian viewpoint of what Rastafarians think about the illuminati / the 'Babylon system' and of Heile Selassie I and anything you can share about his ancestry.

Love, Peace, and Best Wishes.
R.

nowimgone
12-11-2008, 01:30 PM
Ethiopian Highland

musics
12-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Hi, I'm new to the forum been lurking for a minute, yeah I listen a lot of reggae they were talking and fighting against about the new world order for a long time. guess that why reggae music never really take off as big as say rap... when it should be.

check out bob marley's - burnin and looting tune

bless

musics

lightgiver
12-11-2008, 06:49 PM
they were all dressed in uniforms of brutality,

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=VCWZaf_FT80

Hello Babylon will fall,and it sure will.

tattooverb
12-11-2008, 06:54 PM
i do know that Ethiopia is the only african nation to withstand colonial invasion
also Ethiopia retains the practice of Christianity and Judaism in their purist forms

synergy777
12-11-2008, 06:58 PM
ethiopia is a place i would love to visit. i would love to visit the churches at Lalibela and axum/aksum.

resistance
12-11-2008, 07:09 PM
Totally, the conscious music was all but wiped out in the early to mid 90,s just as it was starting to gain a big following, and replaced with ragga..:( ive seen some top bands live, incl Dennis Brown, misty in roots, burning spear, Eka-mouse, African head charge, Black uhuru..the list goes on, some reggae music is deeply spiritual and takes you into another dimension when in the right frame of mind and on mind opening drugs. I had a very spiritual experience when watching Misty in Roots live:)

Here is a few Roots numbers..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PIgQWQ7w-yQ

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tVHVdzOQDuc&feature=related

resistance
12-11-2008, 07:19 PM
bump:)some more

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2ne-wiKi0&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAciEoRsuU

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RXCssX_CQbw

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTRpNX0VzY

clozaril
12-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Hi well ill make it short

Im wondering what information people can give me to why Haile Selassie I is never mentioned when it comes to the Queen Saxon - Coburg and JFK .. ?

Just to start with I mean to be honest i guess we all have a million questions to ask David Icke or Alex Jones but I never hear about His Majesty yet Alex Jones plays a lot of Bob Marleys music on his show..

Also to go further before Alex Jones & David Icke .. Rastafari already were onto the illuminati the new world order ie Babylon..

Anyway any information relating any of this would be greatly appreciated,

Jah Guide & Protect All Of You,

Bless,

Moicha

he was in the order of the garter

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22990&highlight=Selassie

do a search on this site of the order of the garter

prince william became the 1000th member

supertzar
12-11-2008, 10:49 PM
It's hard to understand why people would believe any human being was a living god. Anyone care to share their thoughts about Haile Selassies god-status in their own words?

babylonwillfall
13-11-2008, 12:26 AM
Ok ill try and help you all out..

Its massive subject but ill give you a little background on me and go from there.

I started research of the bible two and half years ago to cut a long story short it took me through to Rastafari & All this truth we know of the elite.

Now one poster mentioned about Ethiopia not being touched by the hands of Babylon this is correct and Christianity in the purest form is also correct.

To some Rastafari would be like trying to some the views of David Icke & others up of infinite conciousness there is many views of Rastafari & they do not cause conflict and if they do they shouldnt. Rastafari accepts many faiths if they lead to truth ie infinite conciousness.

Now as for the comment of believing Selassie was the living god.. this is very misunderstood as many Ras would say we all are living gods & when Selassie I is referred to as THE Christ.. It is the anointed .. and there belief of his fulfillment of prophecy which I would love to go into and will do at some point with many of you but like i said two and half years cant be crammed in right now.

Bob was a true prophet in the sense of speaking truth to the masses. As Bob said it is not I who write the words but God.. As Icke may say it is him tapping into infinite conciousness that knowing that helps him work out his way also.

Bob was actually in his final days in this place was tortured by his doctor who had ties to Nazi Germany and funnily enough the place he was being treated was in Germany and yes was Barvaria..

Now the link the guy posted about His Majesty I look forward to checking and see the views of this sect His Majesty is talked of being amongst. I must remind you there is much properganda against His Majesty as with many great Africans so & theres much disinformation on the Rastafari faith & His Majesty so be very careful in your studys and I will of course try my best to answer questions.

I say Rastafari Faith.. but men are born Rasta just tuning into Infinite Conciousness is what takes them further. Truth is always the truth ayy.

So yes ill check this link and this sect or society which is apparently what his Majesty was apart of and get back to you.

Appreciate the response and thanks for the welcome,

Moicha

babylonwillfall
13-11-2008, 12:30 AM
Wow so much disinformation on this thread ive been linked to ! :-0!

babylonwillfall
13-11-2008, 12:41 AM
Ras would never believe in reincarnation.. Your confusing the term Christ when they put they believe that Haile Selassie is the reincarnation of Christ..

No the Ras that believe in Selassie as Christ.. is that he is THE Christ..

This video may explain it better..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pWJ6jwX821c

nowimgone
13-11-2008, 10:31 AM
Under orders from selassie? the ras apparantly inbred and preserved the Ethiopian Highland sativa strain of weed. Supposedly its the best variety in the world for a clear and peaceful experience....
Good work fellas!

hokhmah
13-11-2008, 10:52 AM
BOB MARLEY

SO MUCH TROUBLE IN THE WORLD

So much trouble in the world now [repeat]
Bless my eyes this morning
JAH sun is on the rise once again
The way earthly things are going
Anything can happen

You see men sailing on their ego trips
Blast off on their spaceships
Million miles from reality
No care for you, no care for me
So much trouble in the world now [repeat]
All you've got to do is give a little
Give a little, give a little
One more time ye-a-h! ye-ah!

So you think you have found the solution
But it's just another illusion
So before you check out your tide
Don't leave another cornerstone standing there behind
We have got to face the day, ooh we come what may
We the street people talking, we the people struggling

Now they are sitting on a time bomb
Now I now the time has come
What goes up must come down
Goes around comes around
So much trouble in the world...

BOB MARLEY R.I.P.
"These are the days when we'll trod t'rough Babylon,
Gonna trod until Babylon falls!"

2013
13-11-2008, 12:06 PM
Good thread , i have brought this subject up a few times on here .Reggae isn't something i listen to a lot but a lot of friends do , and i know something of the philosophy thru them .I listen to bob occasionally and like Maka B . i like the lyrics and where they are coming from .Like you say they warn about the Babylon system and they have control over their own music industry .worth a lot more research ,considering the attempts to legitimize a bloodline , it makes sense that they would suppress any genuine connection to the past that anyone claimed to have . After his death Selassie's body went missing , and was "found " several years later buried under a public toilet ? i seem to remember Reading .He was reburied given the appropriate funeral service .Some claim there was no body originally because he ascended , but i was wondering was the toilet burial to show disrespect ? as many people would walk over the body etc .Interesting that Mussolini
invaded or started war with Ethiopia ,given his Roman Vatican connections :rolleyes:

eternal_spirit
13-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Mansions of Rastafari are branches of the Rastafari movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Mansions include the Bobo Ashanti, the Nyabinghi, the Twelve Tribes of Israel, and others. The term is taken from the Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia verse in John 14:2, "In my Father's house are many mansions." Contents

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1 Bobo Ashanti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Bobo_Ashanti)
2 Twelve Tribes of Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Twelve_Tribes_of_Israel)
3 Niyabinghi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Niyabinghi)
4 Others (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Others)
5 External links (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#External_links)

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansions_of_Rastafari&action=edit&section=1)] Bobo Ashanti

Known as the Priestly Order of Rastafari, the Ethiopia Africa Black International Congress, Church of True Divine Salvation for Bobo Rasta, or Bobo Shanti, was founded in the mid-twentieth century by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Edwards_%28Rastafarian%29, known as King Emmanuel, and considered by many to be the Black Christ-in-flesh. Most of its members, called "Bobos" or "Bobo dreads", live in Bull Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bull_Bay&action=edit), in a small utopian community called Bobo Hill in 10 Miles Bull Bay. Bobos greet each other using the formal address "My Lord" and are most notable for their wearing of turbans and long flowing robes as well as brooms they carry with them, which signify cleanliness. The brooms and other crafts are also sold in Kingston, Jamaica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia as a way to provide funds for the community. The Bobos have established a strong relationship with the local community outside of Bobo Hill and often invite people to their services. Membership of the Ethiopia Africa Black International Congress isincreasingly growing globally, as their members are seen in Africa, Europe, and throughout the caribbean. King Emmanuel is called "Dada" by his followers, who see him as part of a holy Trinity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, together with Marcus Garvey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Haile Selassie I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, in which Selassie is seen as King/God (Jah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), Garvey as prophet, and Emmanuel as high priest after the priesthood order of Melchizedec. Almost all sacred songs and tributes to their ancient trinity of prophet, priest, and king ends with the phrase "Holy Emmanuel I Selassie I Jah Rastafari."
Bobos say that "Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" is the name that the European colonizers gave to Ethiopia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, or "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem". Many see Black supremacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ideas as essential to the faith, and in the Bobo (and Rastafarian) conception, the true Ethiopian Israelites (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethiopian_Israelites&action=edit) are black men and women, who are Royal Ethiopians from creation birth, scattered during the African diaspora.
Not only do Bobos believe in black supremacy, meaning black is original and therefore supreme, they also consider black women as mothers of creation. Women cover their legs, arms, and head in practice of the Queen Omega principles. Nearly all the men within the community are seen as Prophet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or Priest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, whose functions are to “reason” and conduct churchical and parliamentary services, respectively.[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] However, some consider Bobos deeply racist against white people, as well as misogynistic.[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansions_of_Rastafari&action=edit&section=2)] Twelve Tribes of Israel

The Twelve Tribes of Israel is a Rastafari group founded in Kingston, Jamaica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Jamaica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and now functioning worldwide. Its founder, Vernon Carrington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, was known as Prophet Gad, and taught his students to read the Bible 'A Chapter A Day'.
Twelve Tribes of Israel Rastafari organization accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, and Haile Selassie I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia as divinely chosen by the creator to represent him on earth. Due to the stigma associated with slavery and the false use of the name Jesus by enslavers/colonialist not practicing what they preached, some prefer to use the ancient names of Christ - Yeshua or Yehoshua or JAH SHUA ( from Hebrew ) and/or Yesus Kristos ( Amharic ).
Haile Selassie I is seen as a divinely anointed king in the lineage of David - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Solomon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. While he is considered a type/representation of Christ in Kingly Character, he is not Jesus Christ himself, but a representative of the everlasting Davidic covenant, which is to be fulfilled by Jesus Christ when he returns as Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
The twelve tribes symbology is based on Jacob - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia/Israel's 12 sons, and correspond to the months of the ancient Israelite calendar, beginning with April and Reuben. Some people further relate this to Metaphysics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia signs. Thus Bob Marley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia came from the Tribe of Joseph (son of Jacob) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, the eleventh of the biblical Jacob's twelve children (because he was born in February). The name Levi in Ijahman Levi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia represents the third child who was born to Jacob. Another well known Reggae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia group of this Sect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is Israel Vibration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Bob Marley, a natty dread, by quoting a Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia passage about Joseph on the album cover of Rastaman Vibration, was acknowledging his own support for this sect. Dennis Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Freddie McGregor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and many other roots reggae artists were associated with the Twelve Tribes of Israel.
Due to their inclusiveness of all races and acceptance of the Holy Bible, though not the oldest, Twelve Tribes of Israel is considered the largest of all Rastafari houses

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansions_of_Rastafari&action=edit&section=3)] Niyabinghi

The Niyabinghi Theocracy Government was named for a legendary Amazons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia queen of the same name, who was said to have Spirit possession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia a Uganda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia woman named Muhumusa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in the 19th century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Muhumusa inspired a movement, rebelling against African colonial authorities. Though she was captured in 1913 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, alleged possessions by "Nyahbinghi" (traditional spelling) continued, mostly afflicting women.
The Niyabinghi resistance inspired a number of Jamaica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Rastafari movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, who incorporated what are known as Niyabinghi chants - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (also binghi) into their celebrations ("Grounation Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"). The Rhythm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia of these chants were eventually an influence of popular Ska - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Rocksteady - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Reggae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia music. Three kinds of drums (called "harps") are used in niyabinghi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_%28musical_term%29, also known as the "Pope Smasher" or "Vatican Basher", reflecting a Rasta association between Catholicism and Babylon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, the middle-pitched http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funde and akete (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akete&action=edit). The akete (also known as the "repeater") plays an Improvisation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Syncopation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, the funde plays a regular one-two beat and the bass drum strikes loudly on the first beat, and softly on the third beat (of four). When groups of players get together, only one akete player may play at any one time. The other drums keep regular rhythms while the akete players solo in the form of a conversation. Count Ossie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia was the first to record niyabinghi, and he helped to establish and maintain Rastafari culture.
Niyabinghi drumming is not exclusive to the Niyabinghi order, and is common to all Rastafarians. Its rhythms are the basis of Reggae music, through the influential ska band, the The Skatalites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It is said that their drummer revolutionized Jamaican music by combining the various Niyabinghi parts into a 'complete' "drum kit," which combined with jazz to create an entirely new form of music, known as Ska - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Niyabinghi rhythms were largely a creation of Count Ossie, who incorporated influences from traditional Jamaican Kumina drumming (especially the form of the drums themselves) with songs and rhythms learned from the recordings of Nigerian musician Babatunde Olatunji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Binghi chanting typically includes recitation of the Psalms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, but may also include variations of well-know Christian hymns. Though Count Ossie is clearly the most influential Binghi drummer, practically the thing inventing the genre of something in its present state, the recordings of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_Michael and the Sons of Negus (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sons_of_Negus&action=edit), as well as the Rastafari Elders (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rastafari_Elders&action=edit), have contributed to the popularity of the music.
Though Niyabinghi music operates as a form of Rasta religious music outside of Reggae, musicians such as Bob Marley and even non-Rastas such Prince Buster and Jimmy Cliff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (both Muslim) used the idiom in some songs. Recently, dancehall sensation Sizzla - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, American roots-Reggae artists such as Groundation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jah_Levi, and Hip hop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia have used Niyabinghi drums extensively in their recordings. Though sometimes claimed to be a direct continuation of an African cultural form, Niyabinghi drumming is best seen as the voice of a people rediscovering their African roots.
Combining Jamaican traditions with newly acquired African ones, Count Ossie and others synthesized his country's African traditions and reinvigorated them with the influences of Nigerian master-drummer Babatunde Olatunji - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, as a comparison of Count Ossie's Tales of Mozambique (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tales_of_Mozambique&action=edit) and Olatunji's earlier Drums of Passion (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia will reveal. Indeed, it is that combination of inherited traditions and conscious rediscovery of lost African traditions that makes Niyabinghi drumming—and Rastafari movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia—so powerful.
Niyabinghi are considered the strictest mansion of the Rastafari movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in Jamaica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia preaching the ideals of a global theocracy to be headed by Emperor Haile Selassie I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, whom they proclaim to be the promised Messiah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and incarnation of the Supreme

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20609


Others

Other mansions of Rastafari include: Iyesus/Jesus Dreads, Messianic Dreads, and the Selassian Church.




Interview with Prophet Gad (http://web.syr.edu/%7Eaffellem/Gad.html)
Rastafarian Centralization organisation (http://web.syr.edu/%7Eaffellem/rco.html)
Official House of Nyabinghi (http://nyahbinghi.org/)
House of Bobo (http://houseofbobo.com/)

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drc_
13-11-2008, 03:37 PM
Very very interesting!

I've been wondering about HIM for a long time now. I have great respect for the Rastafari movement and for Reggae music and it's culture. My girlfriend is very into reggae music (has dreadlocks) and has been since she was like 15 (now 33).

Hell, the only country I've ever visited outside of Europe is Jamaica :P

But I've always wondered if HIM wasn't yet another Babylon puppet to misguide a group of believers/religious people..
The fact that he is in decent of kings of Babylonian times etc. makes me wonder, because that would mean he's also very closely related to many other royalties, including those we know are part of the conspiracy.
What also strikes me as odd is the fact that the Hexagon/6 pointed star/Star of David/Rothschild logo/Whatever you wanna call it, seems to be used extensively in Rastafari culture... I see it every time I go to a reggae party/concert.

Plus, HIM dresses like he is a general or something, covering himself with gold medals and stuff. Many of those medals are the logos and symboligy we see and expose every day as being part of the conspiracy.

I love reggae music, love the messages (anti-babylon/love) it spreads, even been to Bob Marley's house! But I can't help but wonder about HIM.. It just doesn't feel.. right.. I dunno..

Anybody else see this connection? I mean, to 'let' people believe someone is their Messiah is just a way of manifesting a religion, i.e. to control people and misguide them.

Seems so obvious in a certain way...

2013
13-11-2008, 07:42 PM
It's the message not the messiah! take from it what you resonate with . The music and message can give understanding or promote research and soul searching that is the main thing .Perhaps the symbols we see are not in themselves negative , they have just been hijacked and used as such by the PTB , because they know how to manipulate them . :D

babylonwillfall
14-11-2008, 12:32 PM
Ok yes Land was given to the Rastas by Selassie but not by orders. Haile Selassie cryed when he went to Jamaica because he couldnt believe the turn out from people. He offered the land as a respect for the Rasta movement when Selassie was asked what he thought of the Rastas he simply said leave them they know what they are doing.

Now for other comments Haile Selassie I never claimed to be the messaih why would he ?.. He would be going against what is written and what he fulfilled he made quite the opposite statement saying dont be confused into thinking that a man can be emanated from a deity.

A true understanding of the Bible is a big diffrence His Imperial Majestys understanding of many ancient scriptures most of all the Bible was said to be second to non he even changed many of the structures in the Church making himself head and putting it back to how it was suppose to be.

When he was a child many attempts were made on HIMs life. He even urged at the young age of 10 for his father to join the League of Nations stating that Italy would return due to there embarassment of losing to Ethiopia the first time they tryed to invade.

The Pope blessed planes to drop gas and bombs onto Ethiopia before World War Two & the people of Ethiopia felt as if they were fighting the devil himself with such technology against them. Selassie headed to the league of nations for himself because Italy had broke international law to invade his land under the orders of the Pope.

When there he asked for help to this hissing of the Italians and The Germans. His words were simple if they were not helped today it was the Ethiopians tomorrow he asked rhetorically would it be you & so it was.

Because of the amount of Gas dropped by the Italians on Ethiopia it was only till much after the true effect took hold killing fish in the streams and polluting the land. When the people were starving in the land of Ethiopia.. Haile Selassie I was never informed which greatly saddened him when he actuallly was to find out.

As for symbols that is correct these symbols are ying and yang. They are ancient symbols and many are positive because the elite see them in a negative way does not make them so. David might say you form your own reality with such things.

An example would be King Soloman the greatest and most wisest king he was called. Soloman a man who because of his Pagan beliefs and very elitist type occultic rituals and evoking of spirits we still see today from the elite ended up crashing his country into the ground and there ending his connection in that country with infinite conciousness. It is also the reason why you will find the love of Soloman not by good people but also bad because Soloman was the first great King to be fully corrupted to the darkest depths of the world .. those of which the elite still delve in.

I hope this helps people further..

Me & My very wise friend are currently looking into the order of the garta & His Majesty.. & Will address this soon.

Thanks again for the discussion.. Anything else be sure to ask,

Moicha

drakul
14-11-2008, 01:28 PM
I lived in Ethiopia during the early 1960s and saw Haile Selassie up close on several occaisions. To see how the Ethiopian people lived under Selassie's rule - you could never imagine that he was an enlightened being or embodiment/re-incarnation of Christ. The streets were filled with beggars - crippled people crawling around on withered, twisted hands and knees. There was no `law' there was only the Royal Family. Ethiopia was run like a medieval fiefdom, no Christ-like compassion, no rights for the Common Man.

babylonwillfall
15-11-2008, 12:45 AM
Well I dont know what to say to that. I dont want to sound like I dont believe you but proof of some sort i cant really just take your word for living in ethiopia yet alone the conditions you speak of.

1960s Was the start of the revolt against HIM due to the fact he wanted to help the lower class levels and spread the wealth so to speak but obiviously the rich & nobillity did not like that & plotted against His Majesty.

Now thats a fact... the things you speak of .. Ive heard much Properganda from the people now in charge of Ethiopia and have made a great land of great power a place of starvation and iggnorance.

Under His Majesty Ethiopia once again not for the first time fought off colonization by the likes of Italy.

Also the talks of links with the English Royal Family whilst spending his time in England. Selassie choose to stay away from the Queen he could of stayed with them in London but choose to stay in a place called Bath away from these people.

If he didnt care for his people then why did he stand side by side with them in the battle field against such evil from the skies .. ?

Why did he leave his country to try and get help for his people and then return to remove evil from the land ?

Did you see Saddam standing up when tyranny came his way or did he cower in the ground whilst his people were slaughtered ?

Much can be said of His Majesty and much properganda has been said by the regime now in power to discredit His Majesty and of course they would. I mean Selassies policy were education he implemented much education he was known to not allow food to wasted but given to the people outside the palace gates id love to see Queen Babylon handing food out of the Palace gates..

I mean the list can go on and is all historically written. I forget the name of the English man who spent much time with His Majesty writing his Biography and when asked about the properganda he spoke up strong and said he was one of the most kindest men he had ever met.

People in England who met his Majesty in his stay in Bath were quoted many times as saying he spoke with soft voice but with much power and authority.

JFK had great love for His Majesty & his children were in awe of Selassie when meeting him. This is all documented. The Emperor infact spoke with JFK a few days before JFK did the famous interview against secret societies.

There is more than meets the eye with His Majesty which is why you must always research for yourself as you should know in the truth movement.

I currently looking forward to get back to you all on Selassie the Royal family and the garta

Peace

them
15-11-2008, 01:18 AM
Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia was put in place by the British Government and made a Knight of the Garter in 1954.

Most true Rasta's would take exception to anybody who reveres him and only worship Jah.

The only one who really gets away with praising both Jah & Selass-i-e is Jah Shaka.

JAH SHAKA ZULU - YouTube

Order of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_of_the_Garter#Members)


List of Knights and Ladies of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Knights_and_Ladies_of_the_Garter)


http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/sggk_neilson.pdf

Member; Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia

The heir to a dynasty that traced its origins back to King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba

Accursed be a cowardly and covetous heart

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Sir_Gawain_first_page.jpg

drakul
15-11-2008, 03:48 AM
Another thing about Haile Selassie - he was tiny. The pics you posted are staged so that his height is not apparent. Selassie was not even 5 feet tall. But he had a kingly bearing, he held himself with great dignity.

I came to Addis Ababa in 1961, just after the first coup attempt against Selassie. Other Americans who were there told me they hung the rebels from lamposts and left them there for weeks.

Selassie had 2 sons in line for the throne. His favored son, the Duke of Harrar was very popular but died in a car accident. Strange because there were hardly any cars in Ethiopia then. His second son was repulsive, short and fat with a deeply pock-marked round face. As I remember this 2nd son was involved in the coup attempt but had been allowed to live.

clozaril
15-11-2008, 03:56 AM
Another thing about Haile Selassie - he was tiny. The pics you posted are staged so that his height is not apparent. Selassie was not even 5 feet tall. But he had a kingly bearing, he held himself with great dignity.

I came to Addis Ababa in 1961, just after the first coup attempt against Selassie. Other Americans who were there told me they hung the rebels from lamposts and left them there for weeks.

Selassie had 2 sons in line for the throne. His favored son, the Duke of Harrar was very popular but died in a car accident. Strange because there were hardly any cars in Ethiopia then. His second son was repulsive, short and fat with a deeply pock-marked round face. As I remember this 2nd son was involved in the coup attempt but had been allowed to live.


serves them right !

drc_
20-11-2008, 12:53 PM
Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia was put in place by the British Government and made a Knight of the Garter in 1954.

Order of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_of_the_Garter#Members)


List of Knights and Ladies of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Knights_and_Ladies_of_the_Garter)


Very interesting stuff! Anybody who is that closely connected to the British royal family and gets knighted by them AND put into power is a bad seed if you ask me...

Last saturday I spoke with one of my mates while we're out drinking. He's a BIG reggae music fan for some time now, dresses in reggae clothing, has his whole house decorated in reggae colors/posters etc. And of course a few pictures of Selassie.

Now, he told me last saturday that he'd read a book about Selassie and he came to the conclusion that he wasn't such a nice guy at all. At least he didn't lead his country that way. There was also some stuff about him sentencing people to death..

I dunno, I guess I'll just do whatever I was doing: Enjoy reggae music and leave Selassie for what he is/was.

Nothing's gonnan change if we really find out he was Illuminati/Whatever. :P

decode reality
06-12-2008, 06:09 PM
Hi well ill make it short

Im wondering what information people can give me to why Haile Selassie I is never mentioned when it comes to the Queen Saxon - Coburg and JFK .. ?

Just to start with I mean to be honest i guess we all have a million questions to ask David Icke or Alex Jones but I never hear about His Majesty yet Alex Jones plays a lot of Bob Marleys music on his show..

Also to go further before Alex Jones & David Icke .. Rastafari already were onto the illuminati the new world order ie Babylon..

Anyway any information relating any of this would be greatly appreciated,

Jah Guide & Protect All Of You,

Bless,

Moicha

Greetings Moicha.......

I've made one sentence of your post bold to illustrate a point. Reggae definitely rasied a lot of awareness back in the 70s, and if I remember correctly, the fbi/cia had files on Bob Marley. It would be surprising if it wasn't monitored.

HOWEVER I think of late that certain artists have lost the original plot- to put it mildly!

If you go to youtube, you will see many "roots" artists offering support to Barack Obama. Cocoa T and Steel Pulse spring to mind. Also Mykal Rose.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. Cocoa Tea

Steel Pulse - Barack Obama song - YouTube Steel Pulse


Here is a lyric snippet of a recent Steel Pulse song, THERE MUST BE A WAY...I've quoted a good chunk so that I'm not accused of taking the words out of context:;)

Now that we've reached the new millennium
Let's stop a while and re-adjust our minds
Cause this oppression has gone on to long

World leaders are brain washing all mankind
Unveil the mystery of iniquity
Religion's been the backbone of our strife
When you go back into history
False prophet's have misguided our lives, Hey!

Find some way, There must be a way, Let's do it today
Find some way, There must be away, Let's do it today

Stop them break these invisible chain
As we go down the systems avenue
Of corridors with horrors and loud screams
When you cross over to the other side
You realise that life's not what it seems

That's the work of Illuminati
That's made a plan for you to run that course
But never bow down to the Antichrist
Beware 666 behold a pale horse, yes I know

It begs the question, WHY would they mention Illuminati and quote Bill Cooper and then turn around and support Obama???? As a matter of fact, during the election, the band were even saying DONATE towards Obama's campaign.

Look forward to responses.

hewrote
06-12-2008, 07:17 PM
Hi well ill make it short

Im wondering what information people can give me to why Haile Selassie I is never mentioned when it comes to the Queen Saxon - Coburg and JFK .. ?

Just to start with I mean to be honest i guess we all have a million questions to ask David Icke or Alex Jones but I never hear about His Majesty yet Alex Jones plays a lot of Bob Marleys music on his show..

Also to go further before Alex Jones & David Icke .. Rastafari already were onto the illuminati the new world order ie Babylon..

Anyway any information relating any of this would be greatly appreciated,

Jah Guide & Protect All Of You,

Bless,

Moicha


Haile Selassie? Highly unlikely!! :) and there were many "on to" the illuminati before Jones, Icke, Cooper, et al.
In fact...wasn't the Bible speaking of Babylon, apocylypse, blood lines, and some mark of the beast etc...?

_111_
27-05-2010, 09:59 PM
he was in the order of the garter

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22990&highlight=Selassie

do a search on this site of the order of the garter

prince william became the 1000th member

It's hard to understand why people would believe any human being was a living god. Anyone care to share their thoughts about Haile Selassies god-status in their own words?

Very very interesting!

I've been wondering about HIM for a long time now. I have great respect for the Rastafari movement and for Reggae music and it's culture. My girlfriend is very into reggae music (has dreadlocks) and has been since she was like 15 (now 33).

Hell, the only country I've ever visited outside of Europe is Jamaica :P

But I've always wondered if HIM wasn't yet another Babylon puppet to misguide a group of believers/religious people..
The fact that he is in decent of kings of Babylonian times etc. makes me wonder, because that would mean he's also very closely related to many other royalties, including those we know are part of the conspiracy.
What also strikes me as odd is the fact that the Hexagon/6 pointed star/Star of David/Rothschild logo/Whatever you wanna call it, seems to be used extensively in Rastafari culture... I see it every time I go to a reggae party/concert.

Plus, HIM dresses like he is a general or something, covering himself with gold medals and stuff. Many of those medals are the logos and symboligy we see and expose every day as being part of the conspiracy.

I love reggae music, love the messages (anti-babylon/love) it spreads, even been to Bob Marley's house! But I can't help but wonder about HIM.. It just doesn't feel.. right.. I dunno..

Anybody else see this connection? I mean, to 'let' people believe someone is their Messiah is just a way of manifesting a religion, i.e. to control people and misguide them.

rasta isnt a religion!!!! love is our religion!!! rasta is a movement aiming at delivering HUMANITY from the spiritual, emotional and economical shackles of babylon, they're is asian, causasian, latin rastas also.... rasta is wisdom, love, unity and rightgeousness!

Seems so obvious in a certain way...

I lived in Ethiopia during the early 1960s and saw Haile Selassie up close on several occaisions. To see how the Ethiopian people lived under Selassie's rule - you could never imagine that he was an enlightened being or embodiment/re-incarnation of Christ. The streets were filled with beggars - crippled people crawling around on withered, twisted hands and knees. There was no `law' there was only the Royal Family. Ethiopia was run like a medieval fiefdom, no Christ-like compassion, no rights for the Common Man.

recent evidence has been found that the H. I. M. 's ministers were corrupted, and the whole famine thing was set so H. I. M. wouldnt know, thanks to Henry Kissinger.... dont believe everything babylon says on tv and in books.
alot of bad things are said about african leaders.

Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia was put in place by the British Government and made a Knight of the Garter in 1954.

Most true Rasta's would take exception to anybody who reveres him and only worship Jah.

The only one who really gets away with praising both Jah & Selass-i-e is Jah Shaka.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC7LHIPkZzM

Order of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_of_the_Garter#Members)


List of Knights and Ladies of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Knights_and_Ladies_of_the_Garter)


http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/sggk_neilson.pdf


Accursed be a cowardly and covetous heart

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Sir_Gawain_first_page.jpg

Very interesting stuff! Anybody who is that closely connected to the British royal family and gets knighted by them AND put into power is a bad seed if you ask me...

Last saturday I spoke with one of my mates while we're out drinking. He's a BIG reggae music fan for some time now, dresses in reggae clothing, has his whole house decorated in reggae colors/posters etc. And of course a few pictures of Selassie.

Now, he told me last saturday that he'd read a book about Selassie and he came to the conclusion that he wasn't such a nice guy at all. At least he didn't lead his country that way. There was also some stuff about him sentencing people to death..

I dunno, I guess I'll just do whatever I was doing: Enjoy reggae music and leave Selassie for what he is/was.

Nothing's gonnan change if we really find out he was Illuminati/Whatever. :P

72 nations attended Haile Selassie's coronation inside the Ethiopian Church.
King George V’s son, the Duke of Gloucester, gave Selassie a 27 inch solid gold scepter(Scepter of Judah) from their museum in England. This very “scepter had been taken from the hands of Ethiopia some thousand years ago by Julius Caesar, then the British.” (Lee 58). When King George the V gave Ethiopia back her scepter, England was saying, in essence, that they were bestowing Ethiopia the right to rule her kingdom. The Duke of England made obeisance to new Emperor saying: “Master, Master, my father has sent me to represent him, Sir. He is unable to come Sir, but said that he would serve you until the end Master.

want to know more about H. I. M. :

speeches: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Haile_Selassie

H. I. M. is the only royalty i respect, mainly because he promoted rightgeousness and equality of all humans beings, denounced slavery and colonism... i think the fact that he received so many honours from the occult orders, prooves he was feared by the elite.
his voice gave power to us rastas, to overcome the wicked babylon system, thats why he had to be mysteriously shut down.

_111_
27-05-2010, 10:03 PM
H. I. M. knew the agenda and he was against it, thats why Pope Pius XI's blessed mussolini before he invaded Ethiopia, and the league of nations ignored the violation.

porridge
27-05-2010, 10:47 PM
Ive learnt much wisdom & goodness from rasta teachings which has helped & guided me on this path of truth I choose to trod.Believe in Oneness,equal rights & justice to one & all.Love & unity.Saying this I am not a rasta but have respect same as I do for other cultures.Rasta I dont see as a religion just a way of life.Recently posted an article on here in the religious section about true faith where rastas are held in solitary confinement in US prisons because they wont cut their dreads.This one dread been going 10 years in the hole. http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/ne...223208/310004/

As for HIM being put it place by the British statement earlier is rubbish IMO.He was exiled to Uk tho & spent time with Quenny.
Rastas say he fullfilled prophecy,seven seals revelation 5.I dunno bout all that tho.Dont have much time for religion or Elite.I do know is He went back & kicked Pope paul via mussolini the facist scums ass with the help of brits.