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saxon1979
11-11-2008, 09:38 PM
What are we to make of Aztec/Mayan legends of "white gods" (eg, murals of red-bearded men, as discussed below) who sailed to central America on "rafts of serpents"?

http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2008/11/link-between-vikings-and-early-cultures_09.html

Link between the Vikings and the early cultures of the Yucatan and Central America? - Legends of White "gods" who sailed to central America

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4148/vikingshipvy2.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vikingshipvy2.jpg)

ABOVE: A "raft of serpents"?

http://archaeology.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_vikingmaya_connection

The Viking-Maya Connection

Did The Vikings Ever Sail to Latin America?

© Vickie Britton
May 9, 2007

The Legend of Quetazlcoatl

The Quetzalcoatl legend is known throughout Mesoamerica . Some legends refer to Quetzalcoatl as a god, others a stranger from a distant land who sailed to their shores upon a “magic raft of serpents."

The feathered serpent god is commonly referred to as Quetzalcoatl. The name Quetzalcoatl has Toltec/Aztec origins. A series of invasions by the Toltecs, which led to a blending of cultures, introduced the feathered serpent god to the Mayas, where he was later referred to as Kukulcan.

Two male heroes similar to the god Quetzalcoatl appear in Mayan lore. Itzamna and Kukulcan were both portrayed as bearded men who led their ancestors into the Yucatan. Itazmna was known as a guide who helped build up the great cities and who invented the letters that make up the Mayan language. Kukulcan, was referred to as a great architect, a builder of pyramids.

Could all of these legends be based on one real person? And could that person have been a Norseman?

The Murals

A red-bearded man’s likeness appears on many stone carvings in the Mayan ruins of Chiche in Itza in the Yucatan, Copan, Honduras, and other places in Latin America. There are also murals depicting bearded warriors dressed in armor and helmets which could be relating an account of a foreign invasion by some ancient people.

Early Viking Voyages

It has been established that both Eric the Red and Leif Erickson reached the New World 500 years before Columbus. To date, the only truly authenticated Viking site is L’Anse aux Meadows, at the northern tip of Newfoundland, where the remains of Norse-style dwellings and artifacts have been found.

The Lost Viking Ship

Around 967 AD, it was recorded that a Viking ship led by Ullmann on the way to Iceland was driven by strong ocean currents and blown off course. Could this ship have ended up in Central America?

Was such a Voyage Possible?

The likelihood that Vikings may have touched upon Caribbean shores was not given much credibility because it was believed such a voyage would not have possible. Then, in 1947, Thor Heyerdahl tested the possibility by recreating a reed boat using materials such as the Vikings, Phoenicians and other cultures would have used at that time. The Kon Tiki’s voyage of over 4,300 miles proved that ancient navigators could have sailed much farther than originally believed.

A link between the Vikings and the early cultures of the Yucatan and Central America has never been proven. If Viking artifacts ever existed, they have been lost with the passage of time. If the Vikings ever did visit Central America, the only traces left are the curious images of a red-bearded man caved in stone.

supertzar
14-11-2008, 01:22 PM
Stewart Swerdlow has been talking about this and is coming out with a book on the interaction between Vikings and Mayans in what is now called Michigan.

kimball13
16-11-2008, 01:36 AM
reeeeeallly!!!!! yep first the vikings fooled them then the spanish, cortez came after, a little known fact is the reason why cortez burned his ship's,,,and why he pushe his men so hard to this continent GOLD of many type's...Ya see with cortez it was the tax evasion that drove him as well as greed, he owed spain butlode and he knew that on this trip they were sure to know when he got back. So he burned his ships forceing his men forward to conquers the indigenouse people by poseing as the prophecy, you see being wellcomed as basicaly god's Cortez and his men were brought into the main temple and throne rooms which not only contained Gold and preciose stone's but an entire race's spiritual knowledge, so im sure the Catholic Church got its peice.

Didnt meen to get of topic but ive heard this as well as the Vicking landing on the east coast of USA, as well as a Templar settlement which is believed to have ben used extensivly and of no asverse consequence to neigboring tribe's, what type of footprint did the Vicking's leave in the Central/South American region, and did they leave anything of value either materialy or spiritualy for the indigenouse tribe's or did they just take as they were known for, yep they were not known for conquering but were known for just taking what they wanted and leaveing then they would even develope a type of harvest run only the harvest was the blitzcrege then they left, leaveing behind them death and destruction, i wonder if that is what happend to the Mayan's, or even the Anastazi hummmm make's me think these guy's have ben doing this for awhile and if they hooked up with the church at some point, kinda like Nazi's hooking up with the Catholic's in ww2,,,as we all know that is the type of supersoldeir the nazi's wanted was the nordic,,,,hay and maybe old Cortez knew of the Gold from a map from the Vickings,,,,,Very suspeiciose i would say,,,and after dealing with these guys twice then someone else come's along from a place close to the other two,,,the one of the two the Catholics also come along and blend into america's doing what they can to conquere this continent and try to thwart the prophecy and place there own church ordained pupet all prim and proper, oh and there muscle well there so called hidden arm is a type of old nazi party yes right from ww2,,,,honed by our own war machine and established down south:eek:so what kinda pickle does the good person find themselves in when they relize that the Preist they have bin listening to for generations is actualy a forenge spy from the country of Vatican,,,,,,,,Scary huh, so if an american can plan for five years and chinese can plan 50years what do ya think the devil can plan other than convincing the world he doesnt exist until he asks for your soul,,,,,so imagine two very extreme sniper's hunting one another for millenia;) now there are time's when a scout is sent first, in this case the same holds true, now there are diffent type's of sniper's to in this case we have the one wanting to kill you and the other trying to save you, now through eons this has gone on the advanced elite so to speak,. So the climax of any actions such as this is of course all out War on both plain's in One form the One that conquers both plane's Win's, now what was that mistake they always make again oh ya the blitzkreig,,,,,,they realy do not like the real line of Pendragon or Merovingian for that matter, as they also found in the America's some more natural balance to a parasite, as i am quit sure they realy cant stand Apache:cool:Maybe that is why they started practiceing genocide is they felt the nead to try and destroy anything more beutiful and honorable because they knew that also from that beuty cam a great terrible furry that when God's code has ben adhered to become's unleashed there is no blitzkreig or church that can withstand it,,,,,,,oh ya im sure they have a name in the viking myth's for the guy that is of the thunderbeing's or the one that carrie's the power of the thunderbeing's,,im sure it must piss them of that he not of that look, with blue eye's and blond hair, but for those that dont mind were cool, ya see i learned in kindergarden to judge by charecter not click or racial offiliation,,,but i will say that any one that attends a church and allows it to continue and support it that perform's un-spiritual service without a life giving nature then it is there shame to bear for supporting a death cult.....

Just my take but hay i only had dream's of the tower of babel as a little boy before i read the bible, so who am i to say what part of the story is or sub-plots but some would try and stop me from telling you the moral of many of these sub-plots, but as ive found it take's a while to soak in, and be easy on yourself and remember a college student only comprehends 15% or anything and im at 85% so just read the context and then the detail's, if you get the context the details just appear and flow in a way(if that helps)

so maybe i should check it alittle and see if they found a foot print and see if it is positive or negitive, let me see where is guiana (jones town)agentina or veneswala im sure because that is where one of the head nazi encampments are.....woops there goe's a few more dot's..................,,,,and they connect its might just be that 10 headed dragon..........I guese it comes from hunting that peice of ya know what for awhile...............................

kimball13
16-11-2008, 01:46 AM
What are we to make of Aztec/Mayan legends of "white gods" (eg, murals of red-bearded men, as discussed below) who sailed to central America on "rafts of serpents"?

http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2008/11/link-between-vikings-and-early-cultures_09.html

Link between the Vikings and the early cultures of the Yucatan and Central America? - Legends of White "gods" who sailed to central America

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4148/vikingshipvy2.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vikingshipvy2.jpg)

ABOVE: A "raft of serpents"?

http://archaeology.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_vikingmaya_connection

The Viking-Maya Connection

Did The Vikings Ever Sail to Latin America?

© Vickie Britton
May 9, 2007

The Legend of Quetazlcoatl

The Quetzalcoatl legend is known throughout Mesoamerica . Some legends refer to Quetzalcoatl as a god, others a stranger from a distant land who sailed to their shores upon a “magic raft of serpents."

The feathered serpent god is commonly referred to as Quetzalcoatl. The name Quetzalcoatl has Toltec/Aztec origins. A series of invasions by the Toltecs, which led to a blending of cultures, introduced the feathered serpent god to the Mayas, where he was later referred to as Kukulcan.

Two male heroes similar to the god Quetzalcoatl appear in Mayan lore. Itzamna and Kukulcan were both portrayed as bearded men who led their ancestors into the Yucatan. Itazmna was known as a guide who helped build up the great cities and who invented the letters that make up the Mayan language. Kukulcan, was referred to as a great architect, a builder of pyramids.

Could all of these legends be based on one real person? And could that person have been a Norseman?

The Murals

A red-bearded man’s likeness appears on many stone carvings in the Mayan ruins of Chiche in Itza in the Yucatan, Copan, Honduras, and other places in Latin America. There are also murals depicting bearded warriors dressed in armor and helmets which could be relating an account of a foreign invasion by some ancient people.

Early Viking Voyages

It has been established that both Eric the Red and Leif Erickson reached the New World 500 years before Columbus. To date, the only truly authenticated Viking site is L’Anse aux Meadows, at the northern tip of Newfoundland, where the remains of Norse-style dwellings and artifacts have been found.

The Lost Viking Ship

Around 967 AD, it was recorded that a Viking ship led by Ullmann on the way to Iceland was driven by strong ocean currents and blown off course. Could this ship have ended up in Central America?

Was such a Voyage Possible?

The likelihood that Vikings may have touched upon Caribbean shores was not given much credibility because it was believed such a voyage would not have possible. Then, in 1947, Thor Heyerdahl tested the possibility by recreating a reed boat using materials such as the Vikings, Phoenicians and other cultures would have used at that time. The Kon Tiki’s voyage of over 4,300 miles proved that ancient navigators could have sailed much farther than originally believed.

A link between the Vikings and the early cultures of the Yucatan and Central America has never been proven. If Viking artifacts ever existed, they have been lost with the passage of time. If the Vikings ever did visit Central America, the only traces left are the curious images of a red-bearded man caved in stone.


Actualy Itzamna and Kukulcan were probley morel likely of Hebrew and Templar origen, yet it is true that the Viking's came also, itsa realy funny that they realy still look......Maybe itsa because of all the false one's, maybe it has become such a resentment that the false ones are now welcomed with open arms so that they are known were they are at all time's just for the right moment, i mean realy how do you get all those heads of a serpent as well as the body at the same time...Now the question is has that happen is it happening or will it happend or is the answer all the above letter a-z alpha omega,