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realfake
11-11-2008, 08:10 PM
Roy Keane has launched a withering attack on Sky Sports presenters and pundits, branding them 'crazy' and accusing them of seeking to brainwash viewers.
Sunderland boss Keane, incensed by televised criticism of both Arsenal and Portsmouth counterparts Arsene Wenger and Tony Adams this week, is so dismayed at what he sees as a culture of over-the-top analysis that it may even shorten his own managerial career.
Because of the industry now and the way it is, there are knee-jerk reactions and there seems to be a crisis at some sort of club every week. It's crazy,' said Keane.
'I certainly don't see myself being in management as long as some of the others because of the media side of it, particularly Sky Sports.
'A lot of punters are being brainwashed by what's real and what's not real and that gets to the players sometimes.
'We're on about league tables after a week, teams losing two games and it's a crisis. That's constantly being thrown into people's faces.
'There was a debate this week about Arsene Wenger. How crazy is that? What that man's done for the game - and we're giving these people air time. I wouldn't listen to these people in the pub, and yet they're on television constantly, explayers, ex-referees getting interviewed giving out their opinions. I wouldn't trust these people to walk my dog.
'They're brainwashing people. People say it's good for the game. It's not good for the game, interviewing people about Arsene Wenger after what that man's done for English football. It's amazing.
'Will Arsene Wenger be remembered in 100 years' time for what he has done for football? Bet your life he will. Will these people on the television be remembered for what they've achieved? None whatsoever.
'I was asked by ITV to do the Celtic-Man U game but never again unless I fall on hard times. I think I've done it once for Sky but I'd rather go to the dentist.
'You're sitting there with people like Richard Keys and they're trying to sell something that's not there. I tell people any time they watch a game to switch the commentators off, don't listen to experts, gather your own opinion.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1083992/Sky-pundits-I-trust-people-walk-dog-Keane-rages.html
Keane's rant is so true. I wonder if he can see the bigger picture?
dmt head
11-11-2008, 08:16 PM
Hes right, was actually talking about this yesterday with my dad, commentators do talk one load of crap and they hype from sky is ridiculous, I remember cantona made his comeback after his ninja kick and they had his stats at half time, how many yards he ran, how many passes blah blah blah, total hype nonsense. Roy keanes a right wanker though, hate him and the commentators :p
jason_bourne
11-11-2008, 08:23 PM
Well said by Keane. I'm sure he understands how the media, especially Rupert Murdoch's Sky Sports, minipulates our national game. They've been responsible for many managers getting the sack, unjustly in many cases, putting pressure on players and referees and making people believe the English national team are better than they actually are (42 years of hurt. And counting) Most clubs say nothing as it's Sky who decide which games they are going to show on TV and this is where the vast majority of club revenue comes from.
Arsene Wenger is a legend and, as an Arsenal fan, untouchable in my opinion. If he wasn't there we may be in Tottenham's posision right now. LOL.
jason_bourne
11-11-2008, 08:26 PM
It's also true, Keane is a bit of a cock, as most footballers are but give him credit where credits due. He also has the habit of wearing the HUGEST tie knots I've ever seen in my life.
infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 08:28 PM
Roy Keane what a legend, the ultra non-conformist of the beautiful game as a player and manager. And ALWAYS conducts himself humbley and professionally at post match interviews.
I wouldn't trust these people to walk my dog.
Quality line! :p
jason_bourne
11-11-2008, 08:37 PM
He definitely doesn't take any shit. His autobiography's awesome too. If Sky come calling for an interview he should tell 'em to 'stickit up their bollocks'.
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hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 08:37 PM
Roy Keane is a cuntfillet of the highest order who played for the most soulless, shallow, plastic excuse for a sports club who have single handedly turned English football from being an exciting sport, contested on the pitch, to a corporate enterprise where "success" is determined by how many Gary Neville keyrings you can flog in Taiwan
Roy Keane's the bloke who abused and derided his own fans yet still remains an idol. Only at Man U
jason_bourne
11-11-2008, 08:41 PM
Roy Keane is a cuntfillet of the highest order who played for the most soulless, shallow, plastic excuse for a sports club who have single handedly turned English football from being an exciting sport, contested on the pitch, to a corporate enterprise where "success" is determined by how many Gary Neville keyrings you can flog in Taiwan
Roy Keane's the bloke who abused and derided his own fans yet still remains an idol. Only at Man U
Hahahaha :D
infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 08:44 PM
Roy Keane is a cuntfillet of the highest order who played for the most soulless, shallow, plastic excuse for a sports club who have single handedly turned English football from being an exciting sport, contested on the pitch, to a corporate enterprise where "success" is determined by how many Gary Neville keyrings you can flog in Taiwan
Roy Keane's the bloke who abused and derided his own fans yet still remains an idol. Only at Man U
In your opinion.
clint web
11-11-2008, 08:45 PM
Come back Jimmy Hill.
All is forgiven.
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 08:45 PM
In your opinion.
Not really, it can be easily demonstrated and is supported by a wealth of facts
clint web
11-11-2008, 08:47 PM
Roy Keane is a cuntfillet of the highest order who played for the most soulless, shallow, plastic excuse for a sports club who have single handedly turned English football from being an exciting sport, contested on the pitch, to a corporate enterprise where "success" is determined by how many Gary Neville keyrings you can flog in Taiwan
Roy Keane's the bloke who abused and derided his own fans yet still remains an idol. Only at Man U
Very very very very nicely said.
infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 08:54 PM
Not really, it can be easily demonstrated and is supported by a wealth of facts
Ok, fair play geeza.
But still, lemme see those wealth of facts... :p;)
alfrmo
11-11-2008, 09:01 PM
Like it or not, football is big business. The millions put into the game by SKY, means it can dictate even when matches are played. You will only get sycophants in the studio giving their "opinion" for they will not bite the hand that feeds them. Fair play to Roy Keane, he says what he feels, and has a total disregard for the idiots who now run the "beautiful game". Most professional footballers are selfish, arrogant individuals whose behaviour and morals reflect those of "society" promoted by the likes of SKY. Keane will of course, be labelled a "Maverick" as anyone who has the bollocks to speak the truth is!.
infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 09:03 PM
Like it or not, football is big business. The millions put into the game by SKY, means it can dictate even when matches are played. You will only get sycophants in the studio giving their "opinion" for they will not bite the hand that feeds them. Fair play to Roy Keane, he says what he feels, and has a total disregard for the idiots who now run the "beautiful game". Most professional footballers are selfish, arrogant individuals whose behaviour and morals reflect those of "society" promoted by the likes of SKY. Keane will of course, be labelled a "Maverick" as anyone who has the bollocks to speak the truth is!.
Absolutely alfrmo, In total agreement with yer there.
I was just takin the piss with my previous post... :p (was the beer I promise)
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 09:25 PM
Football is no more than a TV show now, it's even more predictable than You Are What You Eat
Subtle changes in the game, with regards to squad sizes, benches and restrictions on foreign players, coupled with crucial changes to the format of the league and so-called "Champion's" League, has allowed for certain clubs to dominate their domestic leagues financially and consolidate their position at the top
This group, currently the G14, then interface in the Champion's League, an elite tournament which brings in huge revenues for them to share and use to further dominate domestically which in turn secures their place in the elite competition
And SKY and Talkshite Radio keep trying to tell us the Premier League is exciting, the best league in the world
Bollocks. I'm surprised people still watch it. Man U V Bolton? That's exciting. I wonder if Bolton's tiny and cheap squad will overcome Man U's hundred million plus squad of 20 internationals?
The Premier league is fucked... The lower leagues still have a bit of competition left in them, although the teams are struggling to survive...
The amount of debt the premiership clubs are carrying is astonishing. The whole system could very easily collapse at any given time... Wouldn't be such a bad thing in many ways.
dmt head
11-11-2008, 09:42 PM
I know the battle to win the english league might not be that exciting but I still think its the best league in the world and the footall is the most exciting to watch. Any time you see match of the day on a saturday night theres always a good few great games on it.
infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 09:44 PM
I know the battle to win the english league might not be that exciting
This season I beg to differ. The top 4 all in with a shout atm.
I know the battle to win the english league might not be that exciting but I still think its the best league in the world and the footall is the most exciting to watch. Any time you see match of the day on a saturday night theres always a good few great games on it.
It has the most talented players no doubt, and it doesn't have so many cheats as the diving European and S.American teams... But you know the winner is going to come out of the "big 4", so not exciting in that way. However any one of 12+ teams could win promotion in the Championship... And its a complete lottery in League 1 and two, which is how it should be...:)
dmt head
11-11-2008, 09:52 PM
This season I beg to differ. The top 4 all in with a shout atm.
It has the most talented players no doubt, and it doesn't have so many cheats as the diving European and S.American teams... But you know the winner is going to come out of the "top 4", so not exciting in that way. However any one of 12+ teams could win promotion in the Championship... And its a complete lottery in League 1 and two, which is how it should be...:)
Yes I think the top 4 are all in with a shout, should make it better than just chelsea or man u. And the rest of the games make for exciting viewing, good to watch but all I care about are Glasgow Rangers really! :)
Yes I think the top 4 are all in with a shout, should make it better than just chelsea or man u. And the rest of the games make for exciting viewing, good to watch but all I care about are Glasgow Rangers really! :)
You've only got Celtic to worry about then....
kiwimaj
11-11-2008, 09:58 PM
Roy Keane is a cuntfillet of the highest order who played for the most soulless, shallow, plastic excuse for a sports club who have single handedly turned English football from being an exciting sport, contested on the pitch, to a corporate enterprise where "success" is determined by how many Gary Neville keyrings you can flog in Taiwan
Roy Keane's the bloke who abused and derided his own fans yet still remains an idol. Only at Man U
Well said !! When he was playing he was a violent & (probably) drug filled lout !! How many remember that time he got back at some player and nearly crippled the poor guy ?? So if Keane had ended that guy's football career because of his violent behaviour, would he have got sued? Would he have got sacked? Not on your nelly !! From what I could see, he was one of Fergies golden boys and could do no wrong...even though it was blatantly clear and recorded on TV...he should have gone to prison for that assault alone !! But of course it was all about money, keeping him on, they would rather pay out fines for abhorant behaviour than actually show tough action.
I know Keane is or was, (dunno about now) a god in Cork...I know coz I knew someone from there...The violent and abuse behaviour on the pitch was overlooked, of course...(another brainwashed & asleep..).
And then there's Joey Barton...maybe he will make manager of Sunderland next after Keane has gone !! Great choice of character that violent nut case is..again, all about money. If he wasn't playing in top football he would have been sent down ages ago.
Hey...I am a pundit....!!!.Can I be paid extortionate amounts of dosh for talking dribble and bollocks too..?? Surely anyone can do a better job than that sorry excuse for a fart Gary Linnekar !!!!!...What the f**k does that bloke actually do? There is more life in a dead fly !!! The only time he shows any flicker of excitement is when he is reading off off the autocue !! Goodness me...getting paid to (not) talk and (not) give any unique opinions. Has anyone else noticed this about Gary?? I way prefer that other bloke, the one that is also on the One show..the West Brom fan??? He actually seems like he is doing an ok job....the other option for the BBC would be to employ Andy Murray, when he's not off galavanting winning tennis matches, just as exciting, if not more, than old Gary and probably just as uniquely opinionated !!....but hey, just an opinion of a female footie observer...sorry, PUNDIT !!! :D
dmt head
11-11-2008, 09:59 PM
Aye this is it, still exciting though, its actually like havin a disease being a football fan, its bad for your health and you get depressed when you lose but the highs are great, specially when we get it right up them :D My celtic suppporting mate goes aye being a Rangers fan is like having a disease :D
But each game can be hard, the majority of the time, we have won our last two games by big margins but there not easy, like it was say ten years ago and we dominated cos of money, then it really was boring but still good for winding celtic up, boring all the same though.
bicycle
11-11-2008, 10:00 PM
I tell people any time they watch a game to switch the commentators off, don't listen to experts, gather your own opinion.'
Thats what i do anyway. What a refreshing article. Thats it, i support sunderland now.
multiversal
11-11-2008, 10:03 PM
Roy Keane has brains, not only can he see the media for what it really is but he also supported Spurs as a young chap. Good man!
saab1981
11-11-2008, 10:19 PM
I'm a lifelong Sunderland fan, gotta love Keano!
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 10:23 PM
Well said !! When he was playing he was a violent & (probably) drug filled lout !! How many remember that time he got back at some player and nearly crippled the poor guy ?? So if Keane had ended that guy's football career because of his violent behaviour, would he have got sued? Would he have got sacked? Not on your nelly !! From what I could see, he was one of Fergies golden boys and could do no wrong...even though it was blatantly clear and recorded on TV...he should have gone to prison for that assault alone !! But of course it was all about money, keeping him on, they would rather pay out fines for abhorant behaviour than actually show tough action...
Yeah, poor old Alfie Inge Haaland. Imagine if you had a problem with someone at work, so snuck up behind them when they weren't looking, several years later, and tried to end their career and put them in hospital?
Imagine if you then wrote a book and admitted to this cowardly, snide assault?
Why you'd be a hero and a multi-millionare who spits his dummy out when the media criticise him for a being a shit scum coward whose team are shit and going down!
Spoilt little scum bastard
kiwimaj
11-11-2008, 10:32 PM
Yeah, poor old Alfie Inge Haaland. Imagine if you had a problem with someone at work, so snuck up behind them when they weren't looking, several years later, and tried to end their career and put them in hospital?
Imagine if you then wrote a book and admitted to this cowardly, snide assault?
Why you'd be a hero and a multi-millionare who spits his dummy out when the media criticise him for a being a shit scum coward whose team are shit and going down!
Spoilt little scum bastard
my apologies for referring to Alfie Inge Haaland as "some player". Poor sod, what a monster Keane is ...:(
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 10:37 PM
my apologies for referring to Alfie Inge Haaland as "some player". Poor sod, what a monster Keane is ...:(
Especially considering the reason why he wanted to "hurt" Haaland was because Haaland had a go at Keane after he'd broke his OWN leg trying break Haaland's!
Yeah, poor old Alfie Inge Haaland. Imagine if you had a problem with someone at work, so snuck up behind them when they weren't looking, several years later, and tried to end their career and put them in hospital?
Imagine if you then wrote a book and admitted to this cowardly, snide assault?
Why you'd be a hero and a multi-millionare who spits his dummy out when the media criticise him for a being a shit scum coward whose team are shit and going down!
Spoilt little scum bastard
You must be a Liverpool fan to have so much hatred inside you for Man U and Keane....
smoggy88
11-11-2008, 10:42 PM
Hated keane as a player. and even more so when he took the sunderland boss, as i am a boro fan :D but ive started to like him for the stuff he says. speaks his mind and not afraid at what people think.
he is spot on about andy gray and richard keys, pair of twats. where as wenger, has hsi team playing the BEST football in england, and even managed to maintain that level of footy whilst going a season and a fucking half unbeaten (except to us in the carling cup semi final ill let you know :cool:)
I also like keane for thanking our fans after the north east derby match and said we made a good atmosphere and traveled to sunderland in good numbers.
Twat of a player. but a good manager.
smoggy88
11-11-2008, 10:45 PM
Especially considering the reason why he wanted to "hurt" Haaland was because Haaland had a go at Keane after he'd broke his OWN leg trying break Haaland's!
he didnt break his leg, he done his ligaments or achilies or something didnt he, and he didnt try to break haalands leg at all. they went for a 50/50 ball. and keanes leg buckled on the turf. its on youtube somewhere. not sticking up for keane cos, well i cant after what he did to haaland when they met again, but first time round. he didnt even go near breaking halands leg, like i said, 50 50 challenge and he came off worse, Que haaland going over and calling him a ''Cunt''
anyhow..
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 10:51 PM
Well he tripped Haaland up and came off worse first time. Then he waited several years and committed a pre-meditated asault, as he himself admits, which all but ended Haaland's career
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 10:53 PM
You must be a Liverpool fan to have so much hatred inside you for Man U and Keane....
No, I'm just a football fan who doesn't like the way Man U have bought success over the last 16 years, or cowardly footballers like Roy Keane
No, I'm just a football fan who doesn't like the way Man U have bought success over the last 16 years, or cowardly footballers like Roy Keane
And what about Chelsea, as they have spent more than Man U since Abramovich arrived in town...
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 11:02 PM
And what about Chelsea, as they have spent more than Man U since Abramovich arrived in town...
Yeah I hate Chelsea too. Both as bad as each other
yeah i hate chelsea too. Both as bad as each other
lol...
pedsi
11-11-2008, 11:03 PM
Talksport are the worst for over the top hyping......The other morning they had Kenny Sansom on and he said something along the lines of, If arsenal dont turn things around then maybe some fans will begin to question Wenger.By mid afternoon it was all over the place that Arsene Wengers job was on the line and wher will arsenal go from here.....total crap.
It's not the first time I've seen them creating sensationalist stories in this manner.
twistedconcept
11-11-2008, 11:07 PM
Football was ruined when the sleazy Murdoch gained control of the game. It's now a brand. Shit atmospheres, players that don't give a fuck about the fans or the club, constant inequality between teams. A Wigan or a Bolton can't compete with a United or a Chelsea. That isn't a fair league. In a competitive league, numerous teams would have equal standing and a chance to win the league. It's too predictable.
red_ram
11-11-2008, 11:09 PM
Spot on.
As for Hirschfelder, I would agree, but...they're from Manchester, and therefore holy and sacred (and I'm a Bolton fan, by the way). Now be silent before I declare a fatwa upon you.
pleasuredome
11-11-2008, 11:10 PM
Roy Keane is a cuntfillet of the highest order who played for the most soulless, shallow, plastic excuse for a sports club who have single handedly turned English football from being an exciting sport, contested on the pitch, to a corporate enterprise where "success" is determined by how many Gary Neville keyrings you can flog in Taiwan
Roy Keane's the bloke who abused and derided his own fans yet still remains an idol. Only at Man U
thats the funiest thing of read on here for quite a while. nice one :D
alzee
11-11-2008, 11:10 PM
Keeeeeanoooo!
Love him or hate him, he's got a fantastic 'no nonsense' attitude which is refreshing in the Prem. He obviously doesn't pander to the media, and that gets great respect from me. He brooks no compromise with demanding players, nor indeed their even more demanding wives :) He's a manager with a lot of potential, which, if allowed to realise, will see the glorious SAFC reach almighty levels :D
As you might have gathered, I fall into the 'love him' category. What he did as a player was play some good solid football and was a great team leader. I'll forgive him the Alf injury; everyone makes mistakes.
Bring back 70's footy along with the mud , mind you the players were more aggressive than the fans back then as well .Norman hunter ,tommy smith , Charlie George (still haven't forgiven him for that fa cup final goal , but what a player ).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NeA5IlvoeSg
money has ruined the game for the majority of clubs who cant compete on that level , and perhaps we would see the top four fold if the economic situation worsened . That would be a good thing for the game not sure about he clubs and fans .Recently teams like Hull making good progress i reckon is because they play proper good old fashioned football .Too much now is worked out to a plan , taking away spontaneity .
As for Roy Keane love him or hate him hes right what he said .It needed saying so good on him for that .:D
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 11:24 PM
Spot on.
As for Hirschfelder, I would agree, but...they're from Manchester, and therefore holy and sacred (and I'm a Bolton fan, by the way). Now be silent before I declare a fatwa upon you.
The thing is, Man U have now utterley eclipsed the city they're supposed to represent. Apparently they have 4million+ fans in the UK alone. There's only a couple of million in all of Gtr Manchester, and some of them must support one of the other 3 premier league clubs or dozen or so league clubs dotted around like Oldham, Rochdale, Bury and that
So the vast majority of Man U fans have no afiliation with even the county, let alone the city! They could probably relocate to Wembley and still fill it
As Puff Daddy said, "There's two great football teams in London, Chelsea and Man U". There was even that film, "Eurotrip", where the kids go to London and accidentally go into a local Man U pub and their top boy is Vinnie Jones
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 11:26 PM
Keeeeeanoooo!
Love him or hate him, he's got a fantastic 'no nonsense' attitude which is refreshing in the Prem. He obviously doesn't pander to the media, and that gets great respect from me. He brooks no compromise with demanding players, nor indeed their even more demanding wives :) He's a manager with a lot of potential, which, if allowed to realise, will see the glorious SAFC reach almighty levels :D
He's a twat and Blunderland are going down
I'll forgive him the Alf injury; everyone makes mistakes.
That's big of you
red_ram
11-11-2008, 11:31 PM
The thing is, Man U have now utterley eclipsed the city they're supposed to represent. Apparently they have 4million+ fans in the UK alone. There's only a couple of million in all of Gtr Manchester, and some of them must support one of the other 3 premier league clubs or dozen or so league clubs dotted around like Oldham, Rochdale, Bury and that
So the vast majority of Man U fans have no afiliation with even the county, let alone the city! They could probably relocate to Wembley and still fill it
As Puff Daddy said, "There's two great football teams in London, Chelsea and Man U". There was even that film, "Eurotrip", where the kids go to London and accidentally go into a local Man U pub and their top boy is Vinnie Jones
The disease annoys me more now that it has spread to other clubs like Chelsea and Liverpool. Listen to any after-match phone in about Liverpool and you'd swear the Scouse accent had disappeared off the face of the Earth.
alzee
11-11-2008, 11:33 PM
He's a twat and Blunderland are going down
That's big of you
A man is judged by more than one event in his life. I'm suspect you've been a twat on many occasions throughout your life, but would it be fair to call you a twta forever for things you did years ago? I'd say that depends on whether you continue to be a twat, eh?
You may have noticed that Keane is no longer twattish. In fact he handles himself with dignity and patience with respect for those around him. Well, maybe not a great deal of patience sometimes (hairdryer alert!) but nobody's perfect :p
The disease annoys me more now that it has spread to other clubs like Chelsea and Liverpool. Listen to any after-match phone in about Liverpool and you'd swear the Scouse accent had disappeared off the face of the Earth.
Most fans these days aren't really fans. A fan in my eyes goes to watch their team on the terraces, regardless of how well or what division they happen to be in.
A fan is not someone who watches sky sports from their armchair....
Exiles are excused...:D
red_ram
11-11-2008, 11:37 PM
Most fans these days aren't really fans. A fan in my eyes goes to watch their team on the terraces, regardless of how well or what division they happen to be in.
A fan is not someone who watches sky sports from their armchair....
Exiles are excused...:D
Agreed.
I certainly can't call myself a fan these days, though I do travel across the country to random non-league games.
Agreed.
I certainly can't call myself a fan these days, though I do travel across the country to random non-league games.
Fair play mate, good show....:)
hirschfelder
11-11-2008, 11:51 PM
Most fans these days aren't really fans. A fan in my eyes goes to watch their team on the terraces, regardless of how well or what division they happen to be in.
A fan is not someone who watches sky sports from their armchair....
Exiles are excused...:D
That's if you can afford it
I stopped going 2 years ago when the cheapest season ticket was £525! That was for second division football. And we ended up getting relegated!
Five hundred and twenty five sodding nicker!
We play Hartlepool in a few weeks, category A game. All the "cheap" seats have gone but there's some available at £32, subject to booking fee!
And you have to pay a £40 members tax just for the right to apply for away tickets
Ken Bates, he's a reptilian if ever there was one. It used to say as much on his Wikipedia entry, until one of his lackeys deleted it
keystone
11-11-2008, 11:52 PM
Roy Keane Blasts Sky Pundits.
I don't care. :D
That's if you can afford it
I stopped going 2 years ago when the cheapest season ticket was £525! That was for second division football. And we ended up getting relegated!
Five hundred and twenty five sodding nicker!
We play Hartlepool in a few weeks, category A game. All the "cheap" seats have gone but there's some available at £32, subject to booking fee!
And you have to pay a £40 members tax just for the right to apply for away tickets
Ken Bates, he's a reptilian if ever there was one. It used to say as much on his Wikipedia entry, until one of his lackeys deleted it
Of course, Leeds fan... You love us then, Cardiff!:D
stelios
11-11-2008, 11:58 PM
Roy Keane was a dirty fouling player, and he has learnt how to winge from the master Alex Ferguson.
How much money has he spent on a load of Tottenham rejects this year.
He should have been banned after his knee breaker against Leeds Utd.
They dont make commentators like this one anymore , watch 4.22 into the video . Whatever happened to him ? :D
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XSlBnvTpUqI&feature=related
hirschfelder
12-11-2008, 12:02 AM
Of course, Leeds fan... You love us then, Cardiff!:D
Bluebirds!
A lot of bad blood there, but I used to have a soft spot for Baadiff as a kid because I remember their fans celebrating wildly when they got a late consolation against Standard Liege or someone in the Cup Winners Cup
Funny how I grew up to throw bottles at those very same fans :)
(joke)
Bluebirds!
A lot of bad blood there, but I used to have a soft spot for Baadiff as a kid because I remember their fans celebrating wildly when they got a late consolation against Standard Liege or someone in the Cup Winners Cup
Funny how I grew up to throw bottles and those very same fans :)
(joke)
Standard Liege was back in the early 90's, but still remembered fondly.
Yes, a fair few hostilities since 2002.... Bottles back at ya, with urine inside..;)
zero1
12-11-2008, 12:12 AM
Roy Keane has launched a withering attack on Sky Sports presenters and pundits, branding them 'crazy' and accusing them of seeking to brainwash viewers.
Sunderland boss Keane, incensed by televised criticism of both Arsenal and Portsmouth counterparts Arsene Wenger and Tony Adams this week, is so dismayed at what he sees as a culture of over-the-top analysis that it may even shorten his own managerial career.
Because of the industry now and the way it is, there are knee-jerk reactions and there seems to be a crisis at some sort of club every week. It's crazy,' said Keane.
'I certainly don't see myself being in management as long as some of the others because of the media side of it, particularly Sky Sports.
'A lot of punters are being brainwashed by what's real and what's not real and that gets to the players sometimes.
'We're on about league tables after a week, teams losing two games and it's a crisis. That's constantly being thrown into people's faces.
'There was a debate this week about Arsene Wenger. How crazy is that? What that man's done for the game - and we're giving these people air time. I wouldn't listen to these people in the pub, and yet they're on television constantly, explayers, ex-referees getting interviewed giving out their opinions. I wouldn't trust these people to walk my dog.
'They're brainwashing people. People say it's good for the game. It's not good for the game, interviewing people about Arsene Wenger after what that man's done for English football. It's amazing.
'Will Arsene Wenger be remembered in 100 years' time for what he has done for football? Bet your life he will. Will these people on the television be remembered for what they've achieved? None whatsoever.
'I was asked by ITV to do the Celtic-Man U game but never again unless I fall on hard times. I think I've done it once for Sky but I'd rather go to the dentist.
'You're sitting there with people like Richard Keys and they're trying to sell something that's not there. I tell people any time they watch a game to switch the commentators off, don't listen to experts, gather your own opinion.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1083992/Sky-pundits-I-trust-people-walk-dog-Keane-rages.html
Keane's rant is so true. I wonder if he can see the bigger picture?
Agree with Roy 100%, he's bang on there. Andy Gray is the worst of them, all the commentators mislead fans and public alike as to the quality of what they're seeing, IMO.
hirschfelder
12-11-2008, 12:17 AM
Standard Liege was back in the early 90's, but still remembered fondly.
Yes, a fair few hostilities since 2002.... Bottles back at ya, with urine inside..;)
Yeah it was around then. I think it was 5-2 on aggregate and I was blown away seeing your fans celebrate on Football Focus
It was the sights and sounds of football that I fell in love with, more so than the game itself. I've never seen a better celebration than that one, apart from when David Batty got his first goal since his debut against Man City in 91-92
You just can't go mental in seats. I remember how certain chants had to be pogoed to. Nothing will beat three sides of Elland Road singing, "Let's go fucking mental" and actually going mental
Happy Days
steevo
12-11-2008, 12:21 AM
Well said Roy Keane! It's about time someone had the guts to say it.
It's the same as those tossers on TalkSport (TalkShit more like).
Listening to these so called pundits make me feel physically sick. Roy Keane is right, the fuckers are brainwashing and manipulating the listeners AND THEY KNOW IT. They are media whores the lot of 'em.
Yeah the atmosphere was addictive, although its been sanitised a bit too much these days...
Can't believe your in league 1, but not for too much longer... Think we may well be playing each other again next season...
hirschfelder
12-11-2008, 12:41 AM
We'll see. I sort of wouldn't mind another trip to Wembley. This year I combined the play-off final with seeing Icke at Brixton, same weekend. It doesn't get better than that ... unless you actually beat Doncaster :rolleyes:
But if we do go up, I'll happily exchange bricks over a fence somewhere :)
http://i37.tinypic.com/29ppy7r.jpg
I'll leave you with sights and sounds of a quarter of a million Leeds fans celebrating the '92 League Title
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-hIrD_yXZlw
endlessvista
12-11-2008, 12:52 AM
Roy Keane what a legend, the ultra non-conformist of the beautiful game
So Is that why her left the League of Ireland to become a multimillionaire player in the English Premiership? Oh wait let me guess...could it be because he himself was brainwashed by British soccer marketing on TV.
Why did he chose to join Celtic...being Irish and Catholic was the reason why.
Yeah, that's the ultimate non-conformaist sure...:rolleyes:
steevo
12-11-2008, 12:57 AM
Some people on this forum just dont like it when Roy Keane speaks out against the mainstream media. Makes you wonder....:eek::cool:
hirschfelder
12-11-2008, 12:58 AM
An ultra non-conformist would be someone like Matt Le Tissier, not Roy Keane
I did like the prawn sandwich remark, mind you. Thumbs up for that
hirschfelder
12-11-2008, 01:02 AM
Some people on this forum just dont like it when Roy Keane speaks out against the mainstream media. Makes you wonder....:eek::cool:
I AGREE. Some people are PLACED here by the anti-ROY Keane NWO
Sleeper agents. Ever ready to DISCREDIT Roy's AWAKENING and usher IN the Great Work
steevo
12-11-2008, 01:03 AM
I AGREE.
I'm very glad that we agree on that :)
infin8_possibility
12-11-2008, 10:51 AM
So Is that why he left the League of Ireland to become a multimillionaire player in the English Premiership?
No, Its called testing your ability agaisnt the best in the world.
nofuture
13-11-2008, 04:00 PM
Roy Keane supports the 39th game crap.
I think he's a bit confused.
endlessvista
13-11-2008, 05:10 PM
No, Its called testing your ability agaisnt the best in the world.
For millions of pounds and endless product endorsements. So you can pretend you are a "non-conformist."
When I see Roy Keane coming out of a gay bar, wearing a PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION t-shirt while going to get the bus home then you and the other star-struck celebs adporers might have a point. Until then Roy Keane remains a spoilt multi-millionaire gobshit with a big mouth who walked out of is country during the world cup finals in order to go home to Man U PLC.
hirschfelder
13-11-2008, 05:20 PM
No, Its called testing your ability agaisnt the best in the world.
The English league was far from being "the best in the world" when Keane joined it
If he truly wanted to test himself against the best in the world, he wouldn't have bottled out of the 2002 World Cup
He also might have joined Serie A or La Liga, but the money was better at Man U than he could ever have hoped for on the continent, where he wasn't even regarded that highly.
He certainly wasn't hyped over there in the same way as the London based Man U loving media hyped him over here
hirschfelder
04-12-2008, 12:29 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7764671.stm
So much for the fighting spirit he had on the pitch, eh? I suppose it's easy to be a 'fighter' when you play for a club that consistently buys 'success'
Not so much when you're the man at the top, eh Roy?
I don't care for Blunderland and I'd love it, love it, if they were relegated. But why did they give Keane 70million to spend, they must have known what kind of 'man' he is?
A club like Blunderland can't be spending that kind of money without either getting into Europe, winning a cup or getting into big financial trouble. Their crowds are half-decent but they charge a pittance to get in. They could be fucked. Let's hope so!
As for Roy, I wouldn't put it past him to become a SKY pundit :rolleyes:
soleil
04-12-2008, 12:38 PM
I agree with Keane about how Sky hypes things up however, the FA has earned a fortune from satellite TV so those who make a very comfortable living from football should not complain.
wazaaap
04-12-2008, 01:06 PM
Roy Keane is a cuntfillet of the highest order who played for the most soulless, shallow, plastic excuse for a sports club who have single handedly turned English football from being an exciting sport, contested on the pitch, to a corporate enterprise where "success" is determined by how many Gary Neville keyrings you can flog in Taiwan
Roy Keane's the bloke who abused and derided his own fans yet still remains an idol. Only at Man U
Good at tackling though :p
steevo
04-12-2008, 01:40 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7764671.stm
So much for the fighting spirit he had on the pitch, eh? I suppose it's easy to be a 'fighter' when you play for a club that consistently buys 'success'
Not so much when you're the man at the top, eh Roy?
I don't care for Blunderland and I'd love it, love it, if they were relegated. But why did they give Keane 70million to spend, they must have known what kind of 'man' he is?
A club like Blunderland can't be spending that kind of money without either getting into Europe, winning a cup or getting into big financial trouble. Their crowds are half-decent but they charge a pittance to get in. They could be fucked. Let's hope so!
As for Roy, I wouldn't put it past him to become a SKY pundit :rolleyes:
It's like reading The Sun's view on the the Roy Keane affair :rolleyes:
steevo
04-12-2008, 10:00 PM
I dont blame him, he has probably had enough of all that shit. Now he can concentrate on doing something useful, like defeating the NWO :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7764671.stm
I dont blame him, he has probably had enough of all that shit. Now he can concentrate on doing something useful, like defeating the NWO :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7764671.stm
Or taking his dog for a walk....
steevo
04-12-2008, 10:10 PM
Or taking his dog for a walk....
...or both :)
cafetimes1991
04-12-2008, 10:31 PM
Well said, Roy Keane.
Roy Keane what a legend, the ultra non-conformist of the beautiful game as a player and manager. And ALWAYS conducts himself humbley and professionally at post match interviews.
Well said, infin8.
stealth
04-12-2008, 10:41 PM
I thought Roy Keane was made of sterner stuff going on his career at manure utd:D but after losing a few games he's a QUITTER after all who's now going to employ him now:eek: i think he should get some managerial back bone in the lower leagues and he might win some respect back from the fans.:D
steevo
04-12-2008, 10:49 PM
I thought Roy Keane was made of sterner stuff going on his career at manure utd:D but after losing a few games he's a QUITTER after all who's now going to employ him now:eek: i think he should get some managerial back bone in the lower leagues and he might win some respect back from the fans.:D
The fans love him in Sunderland. I really wish that he had stayed on really because IN MY OPINION there is a conspiracy to destroy English football (or at least run it and steer it down a dodgy path). They are doing it club by club by holding a carrot (money/debt) in front of the fans noses with the promise of success. People like Roy Keane (who dont give a shit) are their worst nightmare and they had to get rid of him one way or the other.
We'll see what comes out in the wash, maybe more to this than first appears...
redman
04-12-2008, 10:59 PM
Sky tv = mutv
horus13
04-12-2008, 11:02 PM
andy gray is the anti-christ
wisdomgirl
05-12-2008, 02:30 AM
Roy Keane has launched a withering attack on Sky Sports presenters and pundits, branding them 'crazy' and accusing them of seeking to brainwash viewers.
Sunderland boss Keane, incensed by televised criticism of both Arsenal and Portsmouth counterparts Arsene Wenger and Tony Adams this week, is so dismayed at what he sees as a culture of over-the-top analysis that it may even shorten his own managerial career.
Because of the industry now and the way it is, there are knee-jerk reactions and there seems to be a crisis at some sort of club every week. It's crazy,' said Keane.
'I certainly don't see myself being in management as long as some of the others because of the media side of it, particularly Sky Sports.
'A lot of punters are being brainwashed by what's real and what's not real and that gets to the players sometimes.
'We're on about league tables after a week, teams losing two games and it's a crisis. That's constantly being thrown into people's faces.
'There was a debate this week about Arsene Wenger. How crazy is that? What that man's done for the game - and we're giving these people air time. I wouldn't listen to these people in the pub, and yet they're on television constantly, explayers, ex-referees getting interviewed giving out their opinions. I wouldn't trust these people to walk my dog.
'They're brainwashing people. People say it's good for the game. It's not good for the game, interviewing people about Arsene Wenger after what that man's done for English football. It's amazing.
'Will Arsene Wenger be remembered in 100 years' time for what he has done for football? Bet your life he will. Will these people on the television be remembered for what they've achieved? None whatsoever.
'I was asked by ITV to do the Celtic-Man U game but never again unless I fall on hard times. I think I've done it once for Sky but I'd rather go to the dentist.
'You're sitting there with people like Richard Keys and they're trying to sell something that's not there. I tell people any time they watch a game to switch the commentators off, don't listen to experts, gather your own opinion.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1083992/Sky-pundits-I-trust-people-walk-dog-Keane-rages.html
Keane's rant is so true. I wonder if he can see the bigger picture?
I think keane may be right, i mean look at how the press bully and ridicule a club like liverpool and it's people, its crazy how much power the papers and tv have. I'm not a liverpool fan but i have been there many times for work reasons and i always come back to london feeling happy they are such nice people, but you wouldn't think that if you read the papers.
The feeling towards liverpool fc and the city itself has been pushed in the faces of everyone in this country, and i think it's because there afraid of liverpudlians or scousers as everyone seems to call them now. I have a huge admiration for the city because i love the beatles, but i do think the powers that be are wary of them because there militant and outspoken so they beat them down and make up lies in order to make laughing stocks of them. And plus i think 75% are of irish decent which is another thing southerners don't like. Roy keane is right about how the public are brainwashed when it comes to football in his case.
I remember watching something on tv about hysel in the 80's when they said liverpool fans were murdering people, when in fact it was italian neo nazi's who were charging at the liverpool fans so in turn liverpool fans got the blame and accused of being hooligans! And another example of the power of the media is hillsborough in 1989 when 96 liverpool fans were killed, the sun newpaper printed that liverpool fans were running around going through the dead supporters pockets :rolleyes: and now you get opposition fans singing songs about how they killed their own fans, liverpool people and fans of the club are hated in this country all because of the media :confused: And their still waiting for justice for the 96, it's been 20 years :mad:
They also claim that liverpool is a crime riden city and that the people are thieves, when in fact nottingham has a higher crime rate than liverpool so do manchester, glasgow and leeds and london. If more people in this country were like scousers and spoke out about things this country would be a whole lot better! There hated because there honest about things and the media don't like it.
So that's my defence of liverpool done, but i still want Arsenal do win the leauge!! :mad: we haven't got a chance in hell this season.
steevo
24-04-2009, 01:31 AM
Roy Keane is back...as manager of Ipswich :)
endlessvista
24-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Roy Keane is a traitor who walked out on his country during the world cup finals.
alzee
24-04-2009, 11:59 AM
Roy Keane is a traitor who walked out on his country during the world cup finals.
He walked out on Sunderland too.... no surprise and no great loss ^^
endlessvista
24-04-2009, 03:09 PM
He walked out on Sunderland too.... no surprise and no great loss ^^
Niall Quinn's corporate greed played a huge part in that mess too.
alzee
24-04-2009, 03:32 PM
Niall Quinn's corporate greed played a huge part in that mess too.
Indeed, Quinnie's halo is losing its glow somewhat lately :|
endlessvista
24-04-2009, 04:12 PM
Indeed, Quinnie's halo is losing its glow somewhat lately :|
He is just a self-serving corporate type pretending to "care".
steevo
24-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Nevertheless, it's good to have Keano back :D
white horse
24-04-2009, 10:09 PM
Bout time someone said this.
I cannot stand Sky (closely followed by ITV)
They will debate every throw in, every kick of the ball like it is the biggest event to have occured in British football.
Andy Gray! They hav emoved on, its over forget it!! Fucking plank!
zero1
24-04-2009, 10:14 PM
Sky tv = mutv
Rupert Murdoch is a fan. :rolleyes: They should just replace Sky with Man U TV, and let Ferguson giggle in glee over a brandy @ all the Liverpool bashing.
zero1
24-04-2009, 10:15 PM
Keane will get IPSWICH TOWN back up to that bastion of capitalist sport, the Premier League. Probably.
nofuture
24-04-2009, 10:19 PM
Ferguson won't talk to Sky will he, just as he won't talk to the BBC.
As Jack Charlton said somewhat sarcastically, there's never a bad game on Sky.
zero1
24-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Ferguson won't talk to Sky will he, just as he won't talk to the BBC.
I...don't know what you mean there. I saw Fergie on Sky Sports News doing his Friday press interviews today...:confused:
As Jack Charlton said somewhat sarcastically, there's never a bad game on Sky.
:D Yeah, they're always hyped to unreality. I mean, once it's the Premier League, it must be great, huh?
Middlesboro vs. Wigan...:rolleyes::) Andy Gray..! :mad:
nofuture
25-04-2009, 01:13 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/3384512/Manchester-United-manager-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-bans-Sky-TV-interviews-Football.html?mobile=basic
Seems there was a period when he wouldn't talk to them.
bigred
28-04-2009, 08:48 PM
Roy Keane is a traitor who walked out on his country during the world cup finals.
Traitor??? Roy Keane walked out of the world cup finals because he gave a shit about his country.
Isn't it every footballers life long dream to captain their country in the world cup finals? Do you think he took the decision to walk out lightly? He gave up what he'd worked all his life for because he thought the irish fans deserved better than the shite training facilities and equally shite Mick Mcarthy.
Listen to the wankers in the media and you will think he's a traitor but look what the man gave up. Apparently the rest of the squad felt the same but obviously didnt have the balls to stand up for what they beleived in like Keane did.
Oh and Niall Quinn gave every penny of his testimonial money from city to charity, over 1 million pounds. Greedy bastard eh!