why are the bees disappearing????

[humito]

didnt really know where to post this...........does anyone have any thoughts on this phenomenon and it implications for us all?

[disorder2k8]

because its winter ? :p

[humito]

The Story So far
The first alarm was sounded in autumn 2006. Honeybees are disappearing across the United States, with half of the States affected and beekeeper losing 30 to 90 percent of colonies. The problem seemed to fizzle out in the first half of 2007 and then came back with a vengeance. The bees simply vanish relatively suddenly, with little or no dead adults in or near the colonies, leaving behind the queen and a few young. This growing problem has been named “colony collapse disorder” (CCD). Since then, CCD has been reported from Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, and the UK, where one of the biggest beekeepers lost 23 of his 40 hives.

[humito]

Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".

There are a growing number of reputable reports on bee population decline. Here are a couple of links, I do hope you’ll read further.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/the-big-question-why-are-honey-bees-disappearing-and-what-can-be-done-to-save-them-813971.html

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/MysteryOfDisappearingHoneybees.php

[jojo]

yes, its interesting isnt it.

the weather also changed drastically over the same period here in the uk.

i feel there is a link between the two

[humito]

yes i think you could be right....maybee electomagnetic 'weather too'............like your horse pics by the way!

[jojo]

cheers!

yes, electro weather...

[humito]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H1o_P-u1yXA think there might actually be a plausible theory in this strange psychedelic video............:cool:

[sharpiesix]

Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".

Sorry, this was not correct. He never said it. Load of nonsense.

[humito]

no??? annother uban myth:mad:

[jojo]

no??? annother uban myth:mad:

it doesent matter if he said it or not...... the bees are still disapering.....

[humito]

I guess attributing a quote like that to someone like einstein is a good way of getting public attention to a developing problem.........Thinking about it he was a physicist not a biodiversity expert..........the bees are dissapearing though...........and i believe it could be a serious problem.

[jojo]

yep, they are.

makes me think often....

[humito]

http://www.vanishingbees.com/ there is a good film on this site ........:cool:

[curly]

this is a very very serious problem,and all the authorities come up with is parasites as the blame when it's probably some or all of the above mentioned theorys,if there are parasites on bees they were probably put there by government scientists like all the other shit things they infect and poison us with.It bothered me enough to sign up for a 10 week beginners guide to beekeeping course funnily enough this week £35 not bad and we get to go hands on when the weather gets warmer and i can go down as much as i like in my own time,Can't wait to see all those lovely little bees.

[humito]

wow .that sounds really interesting.. you may find this interesting too.........This is from amazon.com's review of
Bees by Steiner:

In 1923 Rudolf Steiner predicted the dire state of the honeybee today. He said that, within fifty to eighty years, we would see the consequences of mechanizing the forces that had previously operated organically in the beehive. Such practices include breeding queen bees artificially.
The fact that over sixty percent of the American honeybee population has died during the past ten years, and that this trend is continuing around the world, should make us aware of the importance of the issues discussed in these lectures. Steiner began this series of lectures on bees in response to a question from an audience of workers at the Goetheanum.
From physical depictions of the daily activities of bees to the most elevated esoteric insights, these lectures describe the unconscious wisdom of the beehive and its connection to our experience of health, culture, and the cosmos.
Bees is essential reading for anyone interested in understanding the true nature of the honeybee, as well as those who wish to heal the contemporary crisis of the beehive. Bees includes an essay by David Adams From Queen Bee to Social Sculpture: The Artistic Alchemy of Joseph Beuys.
The art and social philosophy of Joseph Beuys (1921–1986) is among the most influential of the twentieth century. He was strongly influenced by Rudolf Steiner's lectures on bees. The elemental imagery and its relationship to human society played an important role in Beuys's sculptures, drawings, installations, and performance art. Adams' essay on Beuys adds a whole new dimension to these lectures, generally considered to be directed more specifically to biodynamic methods and beekeeping.
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[humito]

they are facinating creatures..........Did you know...
Bees maintain a temperature of 92-93 degrees Fahrenheit in their central brood nest regardless of whether the outside temperature is 110 or -40 degrees.


Honey bees produce beeswax from eight paired glands on the underside of their abdomen.


Honey bees must consume about 17-20 pounds of honey to be able to biochemically produce each pound of beeswax.


Honey bees can fly up to 14 kilometers from their nest in search of food. Usually, however, they fly one or two miles away from their hive to forage on flowers.


Honey bees are entirely herbivorous when they forage for nectar and pollen but can cannibalize their own brood when stressed.


Worker honey bees live for about 4 weeks in the spring or summer but up to 6 weeks during the winter.


Honey bees are almost the only bees with hairy compound eyes.


The queen may lay 600-800 or even 1,500 eggs each day during her 3 or 4 year lifetime. This daily egg production may equal her own weight. She is constantly fed and groomed by attendant worker bees.


A populous colony may contain 40,000 to 60,000 bees during the late spring or early summer.


The brain of a worker honey bee is about a cubic millimeter but has the densest neuropile tissue of any animal.


Honey is 80% sugars and 20% water.


Honey has been used for millenia as a topical dressing for wounds since microbes cannot live in it. It also produces hydrogen peroxide. Honey has even been used to embalm bodies such as that of Alexander the Great.


Fermented honey, known as Mead, is the most ancient fermented beverage. The term "honey moon" originated with the Norse practise of consumming large quantities of Mead during the first month of a marriage.


Honey bees fly at 15 miles per hour.


The queen may mate with up to 17 drones over a 1-2 day period of mating flights.


The queen stores the sperm from these matings in her spermatheca, thus she has a lifetime supply and never mates again.


A queen bee can control the flow of sperm to fertilize an egg when she is about to lay an egg. Honey bees have an unusual genetic sex determination system known as haplodiploidy. Worker bees are produced from fertilized eggs and have a full (double) set of chromosomes. The males, or drones, develop from unfertilized eggs and are thus haploid with only a single set of chromosomes.

[curly]

wow .that sounds really interesting.. you may find this interesting too.........This is from amazon.com's review of
Bees by Steiner:

In 1923 Rudolf Steiner predicted the dire state of the honeybee today. He said that, within fifty to eighty years, we would see the consequences of mechanizing the forces that had previously operated organically in the beehive. Such practices include breeding queen bees artificially.
The fact that over sixty percent of the American honeybee population has died during the past ten years, and that this trend is continuing around the world, should make us aware of the importance of the issues discussed in these lectures. Steiner began this series of lectures on bees in response to a question from an audience of workers at the Goetheanum.
From physical depictions of the daily activities of bees to the most elevated esoteric insights, these lectures describe the unconscious wisdom of the beehive and its connection to our experience of health, culture, and the cosmos.
Bees is essential reading for anyone interested in understanding the true nature of the honeybee, as well as those who wish to heal the contemporary crisis of the beehive. Bees includes an essay by David Adams From Queen Bee to Social Sculpture: The Artistic Alchemy of Joseph Beuys.
The art and social philosophy of Joseph Beuys (1921–1986) is among the most influential of the twentieth century. He was strongly influenced by Rudolf Steiner's lectures on bees. The elemental imagery and its relationship to human society played an important role in Beuys's sculptures, drawings, installations, and performance art. Adams' essay on Beuys adds a whole new dimension to these lectures, generally considered to be directed more specifically to biodynamic methods and beekeeping.
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very interesting i was going to get a book so i could get a headstart and this material sounds perfect for my point of view thankyou.We'll pay dearly for messing with the forces of nature if were not careful or rather we'll pay for other peoples evil.Your right to keep an eye on the bees i think they will be a barometer of the planets health and if they dissapear it'll be time to kill all the bastards responsible,i for one will be very angry.

[lordzoma]

Because the earth is dying and will soon die in some form of cataclysmic event.

[haukipesukone]

Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".


Damn, I was going to post that quote, you beat me to it.

Nuff said. Day of Reckoning is nigh and so forth.

[rydeon]

If you watch the M. Night Shyman film 'The Happening' The the first quarter of the film has lead character explaining about the bee's disappearing prior to the Happening taking place! :O

[curly]

If you watch the M. Night Shyman film 'The Happening' The the first quarter of the film has lead character explaining about the bee's disappearing prior to the Happening taking place! :O

i hate watching films can you just tell me what happened when the happening happened if you happen to remember.cheers

[humito]

if i happen to remember the main premise is nature has decided humans are posing a threat to its survival and starts to attack the population by releasing a toxin through the plants and trees and grasses and made airborn that makes eveyone kill themselves............groovy:cool:

[the itinerant shrubber]

You can be subsidized by the ministry of agriculture if you keep bees. I'd do it myself but I dont think my middle class,townie neighbors would approve.

[curly]

You can be subsidized by the ministry of agriculture if you keep bees. I'd do it myself but I dont think my middle class,townie neighbors would approve.

no they would probably look to sue you if they got stung once,i hate living in a town,the middle classes you know the sort audis snotty looks on the faces like a piece of dog doo is just under the nose,i saw one the otherday she was in waitrose behind this obviously lower class piece of crap in her opinion and the poor woman in front was struggling with putting on a load of lottery tickets probably for neighbours etc and apologised and was ignored for her kindness she then apologised again as she bumped into the snotty bitch on her way past in a hurry as she wanted to get away from the bad vibes you could tell she was made to feel very uncomfortable by this snotty cow,she ignored her again like she didn't exist.This snob has probably done nothing to help anyone or improve anyones life but her own,drives around in an audi her husband paid for thinking she's better than everyone else.Then she looks at me as she goes past as if to say my god i am traumatised did you see what just happened i had dealings with common people who don't live in detached houses i hope the neighbours never saw.I went to twickenham for england v wales once and had to ring up the guiness book of records at half time as i had never seen such a large collection of snotty loose limbed looking big mouthed softy personalityless cocksuckers in my life.I'd stick bees in all their pants.

[curly]

You can be subsidized by the ministry of agriculture if you keep bees. I'd do it myself but I dont think my middle class,townie neighbors would approve.

maybe there are non stinging bees that produce honey

[curly]

if i happen to remember the main premise is nature has decided humans are posing a threat to its survival and starts to attack the population by releasing a toxin through the plants and trees and grasses and made airborn that makes eveyone kill themselves............groovy:cool:

thanks,i wouldn't blame it if it did.trouble is were all too comfortable and everything will have to be ruined completely b4 we all do anything.

[the itinerant shrubber]

The trouble is,I do live in the countryside but it's been invaded by the fucking Chelsea tractor brigade with their gravel driveways and fucking huge floodlights everyhere blacking out the night sky. They want to live in the country as long as its on their terms. People have actually moved here to the country and then complained to the local council becouse the cock crows every morning and the place smell of pig shit.
I have a filthy terrier,ferrets outside,piles of wood,a dirty great Land Rover Defender and my garden looks like a pikeys yard and I'm more in keeping with the countryside than the other wankers.
I've had the RSPCA called on me because apparently someone saw the kids kicking the dog - the kids play rough with the dog,its a JR terrier after all but they wouldnt kick it and I've been reported to the council for being solely responsible for the rat population in the area-funny how everyone else I know living elsewhere started getting rats at the same time just after the harvest although I'm not sure why the rats would choose my garden over anyone elses.
Suffice to say, I'm not wanted.I might start putting "911 was an inside job" posters in my windows so they can accuse me of being a terrorist.:D

[curly]

The trouble is,I do live in the countryside but it's been invaded by the fucking Chelsea tractor brigade with their gravel driveways and fucking huge floodlights everyhere blacking out the night sky. They want to live in the country as long as its on their terms. People have actually moved here to the country and then complained to the local council becouse the cock crows every morning and the place smell of pig shit.
I have a filthy terrier,ferrets outside,piles of wood,a dirty great Land Rover Defender and my garden looks like a pikeys yard and I'm more in keeping with the countryside than the other wankers.
I've had the RSPCA called on me because apparently someone saw the kids kicking the dog - the kids play rough with the dog,its a JR terrier after all but they wouldnt kick it and I've been reported to the council for being solely responsible for the rat population in the area-funny how everyone else I know living elsewhere started getting rats at the same time just after the harvest although I'm not sure why the rats would choose my garden over anyone elses.
Suffice to say, I'm not wanted.I might start putting "911 was an inside job" posters in my windows so they can accuse me of being a terrorist.:D

yes mate it's a sad state of affairs,rural communities being worn away by townies pricing the locals out of the housing market,and then bringing there dumb bullshit ways to the countryside,the town i grew up in [70's]was all local accents now half of the kids speak bland or mockney and there will be no trace of these local accents in 50 years at least where large numbers of twats have moved in.Have you noticed most middle class kids talk like princess diana or prince edward twats they need a good hiding and a trip to a farm for the day meet some real people.No smarmy bullshit down there,i beleive it was once the duty of all the good citizens of the u.s state of kentucky to shoot dead on sight any lawyers[liars] they came across.Some country people must feel the same about these townies who don't mix in properly.If the coppers had any common sense they would charge the person who complained that YOU and noone else had had rats with wasting police time,but theres no money in that is there and the coppers aren't all local anymore.And after all they are going to need a stasi type network of snitches who don't know anything about what's going on in the world.I saw two community support officers the other day walking along and a more unfit clueless pair of twats you could not come across,i could have stolen their hats and ran off backwards sticking my tongue out all the way and they would have never been able to catch me in a million years.Nothing against coppers in general as we will need them to be on the side of the people once they wake up.Kin hell i forgot about bees,just got back from my local bookstore got two books about bees,he gave me them for nothing as he thinks i am great only 3.50 the pair but that was nice,i wonder if it's coz i gave a smackhead £3 for food last week outside mcdonalds poor kid.

[humito]

i remember reading somewhere that honey produced by city or town bees is a lot tastier than that of rural bees............think of all the exotic flowers that are grown in peoples gardens in suburbia etc compared to the flowers in the countryside ........all the exotic pollens go to create a tastier honey.........rather than just what is flowering locally............:cool:

[curly]

i remember reading somewhere that honey produced by city or town bees is a lot tastier than that of rural bees............think of all the exotic flowers that are grown in peoples gardens in suburbia etc compared to the flowers in the countryside ........all the exotic pollens go to create a tastier honey.........rather than just what is flowering locally............:cool:

I saw something on telly about 2 young lads in central london who market their own award winning honey,they have hives on a rooftop.Not too many pesticides i suppose is another good point for growing in a city.I have honey in my tea now instead of sugar and am becoming accustomed to some of the completely different tastes involved i have tried loads of different ones and i think it's a bit like wine tasting.Mixed African honey,i tried that once and it was the only one i threw away,well i gave it to the guy from zanzibar at work who i think probably threw it away,maybe he thought i said money,he never mentioned it again.Did you know that certain plants can only be pollinated by certain species of bees as they are the only ones with long enough tongues to do the job,this was on the first page i opened up in the books i just got t .Hippocrates gave his patients honey and thought of it as a cause of longevity,with a name like that he should have been in the animal transportation business he'd have made a fortune.

[oiram]

Maybe just one more stupid thing I am thinking off which most are disregarding to have any function reason for concern or effect on anything but could chemtrails be considered!

But Chemtrails are getting connected to weather manipulation & or poisons!

How would Honey bees react to this stuff?
The Idaho Observer has reported findings of 26 metals including barium, aluminum and uranium, a variety of infectious pathogens and chemicals and drugs including sedatives in chemtrail fallout. Dr.R. Michael Castle reports the finding of cationic polymer fibers. Others have reported findings of tiny parasitic nematode eggs of some type encased in the fibers.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=580622&postcount=226

Maybe this could give someone working in this field a incentive to have some research into it!
Who knows!

Now if Albert Einstein once said this; how a person like Bush fuck-head would use this for there perfect agenda??
If the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".

Bush would say perfect cover just get rid of the Honey bees and my problem of having all these useless eaters around gets solved by it's self!
Strange that the person who gave the Satan's followers the Atomic Bomb points out a nice thing like this???
What made Einstein think about Honey bees??

Hell I was not the first one thinking of this one; just googled for it "Good that we have logical People & are working on this!" But it appears to be a new aspect of looking at this only got 7650 google hits on this.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=204066
CHEMTRAILS are KILLING the HONEYBEES - YouTube Colony Collapse Disorder ( CCD ) Honey Bees Disappearing 2009 Chemtrails - YouTube

[curly]

SWARMING
Probably the best known characteristic of the bee is the strange habit known as swarming In the early summer months,when food abounds and young bees are hatching out in enormous numbers,a mysterious impulse affects the colony.About one half of the bees appear to go on working at their duties as if nothing were happening but the other half are filled with feverish activity and buzz around the hive,or run backwards and forwards in a veritable fever of excitement.For hours and sometimes days this restlessness continues,culminating at last in thousands of bees issuing from the hive,with the queen in their midst,and clustering in a dense mass on a branch or bush.
Before leaving the hive they have gorged themselves with honey;each bee holds on to another bee,until the cluster hangs down from the branch in a solid mass.The tenacity with which the bees cling to each other and the weight supported by those at the top are remarkable,especially as a swarm weighing 7/8 lbs is not uncommon.
When in this condition bees very rarely sting,and since they usually remain in the cluster for about 2 hours this is the time to secure the swarm.The whole mass mass can be readily shaken off into a skep or box,and transferred later in the day to a new hive.The box or skep into which the swarm is shaken should be turned upside down on the ground as near as possible to the place where the swarm has been taken,and a stone placed under one edge of it,so that any bees circling in the neighbourhood,or which could not be shaken off the skep or box may enter.If the queen has been secured they will do this of their own accord within in a short time,since in some manner they know where the queen is and will allways seek her.
The operation of hiving should always be carried out after sunset,and pending this the box in which the swarm is temporarily sheltered should be protected from the sun by a few branches or other covering
It is while they are hanging suspended near the forsaken hive that the swarm must be secured,as already scouts will have been dispatched to seek new quaters for the adventurers.How the result of these inquiries is conveyed to the bees,and how a choice is made between the various reports from the different scouts,and who decides when and where to go,is yet another wonder of the bee world.But the fact remains suddenly the cluster of bees dissolves.They rise on the wing and head straight across country,usually for two or three miles,to some hollow tree or suitable cranny-sometimes an empty hive-where the making of the new home begins.
There is no hesitation or uncertainty in their flight.They go in a bee line{as we call it from this very occurance}direct to their new headquaters,which have been so mysteriously selected.Are they under the leadership of the scout who came back with the best report? And how is he selected from the others who,doubtless,considered they had discovered equally suitable sites? It is all a mystery to us mortals,whose most perfect organisation has never approached that which goes on day to day amongst the wonderful bee people.
There is no doubt that it is the queen which keeps the swarm together.She appears to have a scent or radiation of some kind that attracts all bees.If we place a queen in our hand,and there are other bees flying around,they will be attracted and,if we let them we will settle with her.Even a piece of wood on which a queen has rested for a few minutes will subsequently attract bees.The queen is therefore the central impule of the swarm;but if she who has spent her life in the darkness of the hive cannot lead them-who does?The mystery gets deeper the more we ponder on it.
quoted from bees for beginners written and published by E.H. Taylor of welwyn hertfordshire.cost two shillings and sixpence.Now doesn't that remind you of a certain little bunch of ugly german freeloaders living in an enormous hive in london called fuckingthem palace.

[jhado]

You go careful kidnapping those bees Curly,
love the fuckingthem palace bit.

Bee-keeping sounds good, keep us informed.

[curly]

You go careful kidnapping those bees Curly,
love the fuckingthem palace bit.

Bee-keeping sounds good, keep us informed.

hey i can practice on the bees till we can put a name to chemtrails then we can go round there and keep hitting them in the bollocks with hammers till we find out some more names then we can hit them in the bollocks with hammers until they tell us even more names and then we can well you get the picture.I'll let you know how the course is going it's very important we keep as many bees alive as we can.

[oiram]

Now doesn't that remind you of a certain little bunch of ugly german freeloaders living in an enormous hive in london called fuckingthem palace.http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/Laughing_Hyena80.gif
I just can not work out the German freeloader connection??

[curly]

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/Laughing_Hyena80.gif
I just can not work out the German freeloader connection??

glad i made u smile brother:)

[humito]

I also wonder sometimes why it is just the honey bee in sharp decline or wether other pollinators are affected.............I must admit as a kid there used to be amazing amounts of butterflies around but in recent years i hardly see any ,even on a the huge budlia we have in the garden...............

[humito]

Researchers from Butterfly Conservation looked at 40 butterfly species on more than 800 sites. They found a 30% fall in butterfly numbers across the board, including on sites that have been targeted for conservation.

Their report for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs also found some evidence that the decline had accelerated in the last three years of the 10-year study.

It concluded: "Because butterflies are widely accepted as good indicators of ecosystem health, the overall decline is an alarming result with important implications for other insects and biodiversity."

Sir David Attenborough, chairman of Butterfly Conservation, said: "The declines of butterflies are deeply concerning, especially in light of the recently published declines of common moths. Together, these losses indicate that we are entering a deep biodiversity crisis that needs the urgent attention of us all."

Announcing the findings, the biodiversity minister, Jim Knight, said: "Butterflies are an iconic species in their own right, and they can be good indicators of the health of the entire ecosystem, so this decline is worrying."

The study found that a general approach to conservation, over the last 10 years, had often harmed butterfly habitats. Land managers have tended to promote a uniform diversity of flowers and shrubs in conservation areas, which has not always suited the often fussy requirements of butterfly species.

It said: "General conservation measures aimed at conserving birds and improving habitat have not been sufficient to halt butterfly declines. Moreover, for some species types they may have exacerbated declines."

The species that were declining included the Small Blue, Grizzled Skipper, Green Hairstreak and Duke of Burgundy. These are all "mosaic" species because they require varied habitats.

But the study revealed more encouraging findings where the specific habitat of endangered species had been targeted for protection.

As part of commitments made at the 1992 Rio earth summit, the government agreed to single out eight butterfly species for special protection as part of a biodiversity action plan.
Looks like the butterflies have had it too!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
Today's study found significant improvements in four of these species; the Adonis Blue, High Brown Fritillary, Heath Fritillary and Silver-studded Blue. Of the other four, the population of the Pearl-bordered Fritillary and Silver-spotted Skipper had stabilised. But the Marsh Fritillary and the Northern Brown Argus continued to decline despite efforts to improve habitats which they relied on.

Mr Knight said the government was now promoting a more targeted approach to protect individual species under its environmental stewardship scheme.

He said the scheme "has the potential to address many of the concerns highlighted in this report, and could make a big difference to butterflies and to all the other insects, mammals and birds that rely on them".

[tracker]

maybe because we have so many GM foods now , the GM foods are either poisoning them , or the bees refuse to asociate them selves with that much crap .:cool:

[rebel 66]

Approx third of UK honey bees lost this year, last year noticed the drop in insects in general, this year not seen many bees,wasps or butterflies in garden.

Could be

Microbe specific to bees, info available somewhere about a fungi or virus attacking bees.

Toxins such as chem trails, build up of pesticides or antibiotics in run off water.

Possibility of ragwort poisoning, so much of this deadly toxin seems to be everywhere and bees do collect from the plant, possibility of toxin transferal to honey, this is on record .

GM crops as Tracker said.

Lack of food in general or loss of habitat but this does not appear to be the case.

New predator but would think this would have been noted.

They have the solution all ready and waiting. What a perfect excuse to bring in GM crops.How lucky are we when pollination ceases or becomes unviable we got GM ready.......... and waiting to destroy our health, no vitamins available, pharma plans to be bigger than ever before, given the chance.

[lordzoma]

But in reality it is because:

The planet is preparing for graduation. Which means it is preparing to die.

This means all life on earth is preparing to DISAPPEAR.

[adsy]

Albert Einstein once said that if the bees disappeared, "man would have only four years of life left".

If that is true could this be connected to 2012?

[element]

But in reality it is because:

The planet is preparing for graduation. Which means it is preparing to die.

This means all life on earth is preparing to DISAPPEAR.

First time, I find myself in agreement with you.

This will be the last century as we know it..

[humito]

If that is true could this be connected to 2012?

apparently he never said it........

[curly]

Started a 3 month bee-keeping course yesterday,some interesting things i learned.
The bees are worth hundreds of millions of pounds to the economy each year and the government only handed a few thousand pounds to the industry for research into the reasons for the decline in the number of colonies.Wankers

A colony of honeybees at the height of summer contains 50,000 bees.There is one queen[female]capable of laying 2,000 eggs per day,several hundred drones[males]and workers[sterile females].

Both the workers and the queen develope from fertilised eggs[egg+sperm}and have 32 chromosones.The queen is reared in a queen cell and receives a richer and more plentiful diet{royal jelly or brood food}.The workers are all potential queens-it is the feeding that makes the difference[workers have rudimentary ovaries and may become laying workers producing drones].

The drones[male] develope from unfertilised eggs[parthenogenesis]and have 16 chromosones.A drone has a mother but no father-but he does have a grandmother and one grandfather.He can have no sons,but he can have grandsons[if his daughters{queens}produce males parthenogenetically.

Drones are like hoodies and do nothing all day but hang around looking for a queen to fertilize,when the autumn comes and food is scarce they are not needed and have their wings bitten off are are chucked out and left to die.
The drones that mate die and their sexual organs drop off

There are 20,000 species of bees in the world,only honeybees survive the winter as a colony-wasps and bumblebees rear queens to overwinter and the colony dies.Bees have survived for 50-80 million years,their organization is highly organized for the benefit of the colony not the individual.Keeping bees in hives is for the benefit of the beekeeper not the bees.Always try to be in tune with their needs not yours.Leave alone management of the bees is no longer an option,parasites,disease and imo monsanto and the losers who control the government are laying waste to the bee population.Theres so much more but i am bored of typing,The lecturer said on a few occasions this is truly a magical subject and one you will never get bored of.

The waggle dance is one the most amazing things on earth,will do that later.

[them]

Isn't it funny how a Bear likes Honey? Buzz Buzz Buzz, I wonder why he does?

http://www.mahnamahna.net/images/blog/pooh_honey.jpg
Silly old Bear..

Rudolf Steiner

http://www.skylarkbooks.co.uk/Shop/media/Bees.htm



The most famous nature philosopher was Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749–1832). Although best known as a poet and dramatist, his scientific achievements were considerable and he had a profound influence on nineteenth-century biologists. Thomas Huxley's article "Nature: Aphorisms by Goethe" appeared in Nature's first issue in 1869. And yet in Goethe we see the apotheosis of nature philosophy as a romantic reaction to what we would see as scientific detachment, seeking to place man, once again, at the centre of all things, and to promote the subjective and the aesthetic in scientific observation.

Goethe's wide range of interests led to his being labelled as an amateur by contemporaries who had a narrowly scientific focus. In Goethe's own words, his critics "forgot that science arose from poetry, and did not see that when times change the two can meet again on a higher level as friends". Although nature philosophy is long dead, such sentiments still find ready acceptance among alternative or 'holistic' philosophies. Anthroposophy — the world view of twentieth-century philosopher Rudolf Steiner — draws heavily on Goethe, and a germ of nature philosophy survives, if buried, in every anti-scientific, anti-establishment eco-warrior. Why has nature philosophy reinforced the idea of progressive evolution, given that it stems from a profoundly idealistic, pre-evolutionary view of life?

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The National Honey Show (http://www.honeyshow.co.uk/)

Recipe - Plain Honey Cake

114grm/4oz Butter or Margarine

114grm/4oz Honey

85grm/3oz Sugar

2 Eggs

227grm/8oz Self-raising flour

Pinch Salt

Cream butter, honey and sugar together. Beat eggs well and add them alternately with the sifted flour and salt. A little milk can be added if necessary. Bake in a well buttered 180cm (7") diameter tin for 1.25 to 1.5 hours in a moderate oven. Oven temperature at own discretion.

http://www.bbka.org.uk/

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http://www.rafiba.com/pics%5C3dart/HONEYBEE.jpg
http://www.rafiba.com/gallery.asp?category=sculpture

[lyrag]

Lordzoma- What evidence do you have of the world getting ready ' to die '? :confused:

Does anyone on here eat honey...that will certainly NOT help the bees.

[samsonnait]

I know that in China its human labor (with) a pencil thats doin the trick, without the bees.
It is true what Einstein might have said.
With 90% of the bees gone you might give it thought.
But you have friends and you have money, right?
Can you eat friends, or can you eat money?

You part of the programm motherfuckers dont have a simple clue what so ever.
Pardon me language.

Well see and it wont take ages.
Anything i know can be real in days weeks months years.

The ultimate fucker is 2012
It is how god tells you your a god like creature.

Believe it or not
it comes from whitin.

YOU

[samsonnait]

us dutchees dont see the h or g
it doesnt make sence, but it doesnt make us stupid!
RULES
Ive got to apply to 4 million of them...

Some call it freedom
But just reading them
will take you a lifetime

Simple understanding
and a total fuck you.

With love

If you could only eat half the flower i am living trough...
We do
Thanks for the peace
Get there
Aware
Good luck

[lordzoma]

Lyrag, look all around you, does it not seem like the planet is dying? When we graduate the planet graduates. I think this may be how it is on all simultaneous planets.

I think there is a connection between the graduation of simultaneous higher selves with the graduation of planetary spirits.

The essence of end game / graduation must be intrinsically linked between planetary graduation and simultaneous graduation.

I have heard that it requires final incarnations to create the graduation key for the planet, so it would only make sense that both need each other.

[them]

Does anyone on here eat honey...that will certainly NOT help the bees.

Why won't eating honey help the Bees?

[pinnochio]

i'm a postman, and i was thinking this back last summer.

Its a strange phenomenan cause i haven't seen 1 bee since last summer not one. Not even during last summer.

Glad someone else noticed it.

Come to think of it recentley i haven't seen wasps either.

[them]

i'm a postman, and i was thinking this back last summer.

Its a strange phenomenan cause i haven't seen 1 bee since last summer not one. Not even during last summer.

Glad someone else noticed it.

Come to think of it recentley i haven't seen wasps either.

I think you should make a list of things you fail to see.

[samsonnait]

Hey its winter Pinnochio...:D
its a tiny tick thats killing the bees. Keepin the colony young helpes them to survive.
And if they all collapse we have 2 do their trick ourselves and go into fields with a brush.
Thats how it has been done last year in some parts of China.
One of the rare veggies and fruits that dont need bees to grow is a potato...

[darreninnz]

Is it possible that chemtrails are killing the bees? its a sure way for monsanto to have the monopoly on food if the bees are no longer around to pollinate plants.

[truthseeker1980]

There was a site on the net about 6 years ago about it, been taken off now (i wonder why) and it was a bee keeper who actually kept bee's very close to my home in North London. In his report he found that since the introduction of more mobile phone masts the bees seemed to be dying, he is the same bloke which was on one of the UK news shows last week about it, he didn't mention his original mobile mast theory on the news, so i thought it was quite strange as his site has gone too. :(

[alexc]

The bees that are disappearing are the European and African strains that have been brought to the USA. All the native US species of bee, which pollinate flowers but don't produce enough honey to be farmed are just fine. The honey producers are in trouble, but the indigenous bee species will just expand and fill in the gap. It was their place in the food chain to begin with.

[wabbitpoo]

I believe many bee keepers now think it is related to insecticides that contain nicotine, banned in Europe for some time. I am not a beek keeper but i know some who have been told this by MinAg people. Google it.

[motleyhoo]

The nicotine insecticides are a problem, but so is the skyrocketing access that consumers have to all kinds of pesticides that used to only be available to licensed businesses. A visit to any major hardware store here and the lawncare aisle will look like a toxic waste dump about to happen. Where I live the dumbasses apply this crap to their shrubs, their trees, their lawns, anything with a leaf, because as we all know, we are personally defined by how immaculate our lawns look. Combine this with GM crops, the toxicity of our soil (from burning coal), antennae everywhere pumping out RF, microwaves, cell signals, satellites bombarding the surface, etc., etc.

[kiwimaj]

Isn't it really about GM crops?? Aren't the frankenstein crops killing the bees? The only thing that makes sense to me, apart from phone masts maybe.

[kiwimaj]

Is it possible that chemtrails are killing the bees? its a sure way for monsanto to have the monopoly on food if the bees are no longer around to pollinate plants.

..another possibility..

[debs67gb]

is anyone bee savvy last summer i saw a weird bee - all black and quite large - does anyone know what they are?

[rydeon]

Hey its winter Pinnochio...:D
its a tiny tick thats killing the bees. Keepin the colony young helpes them to survive.
And if they all collapse we have 2 do their trick ourselves and go into fields with a brush.
Thats how it has been done last year in some parts of China.
One of the rare veggies and fruits that dont need bees to grow is a potato...

Bananas and pinapples are the other fruits that don't need bee's.
The latter rely's on hummingbirds to pollenate.

[storm knight]

A point relating to electric wether, its apparent that global warming is causing damage to the ozone layer, maybe more exposion to these rays has caused the bees to not live as long.

There has been experiments to show that without all the harmful rays the sun gives, the organisms will live longer and become bigger.

There have also been acounts of bees having human like faces.

[humito]

is anyone bee savvy last summer i saw a weird bee - all black and quite large - does anyone know what they are?

could bee this little fella http://www.pollinatorparadise.com/Solitary_Bees/IMAGES_SB/BlueOrchardBee.jpg