Is this the end of our crusade?

[orderoutofchaos]

looking at the reaction of the public to Obamas win i can see divisions starting to develop with the anti new world order movements. i really dont know wether Obama is illuminati or not but i hope he is not for all our sakes. Do you think, because of the impact of this guy, people will listen to the conspiracy theories?

[helloperator]

Look I just wanna smash people in the face....namely those people who wave flags and cheer and look tearfully up at the new leader while he smarms some bullshit that he believes in but which is about as inspired as that brown thing I left in the toilet this morning.

[john67]

just look who is advisers are, 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss'. If Zbig gets his way Russia and China will be the new enemy, which is why barack wants out of Iraq and redeployment to Afghanistan.

I do however have a very uneasy feeling about racial tension in the USofA, i don't know what the msm coverage is like over there but bbc news has been talking about what a surprise it is that the racist americans voted him in.

[skyline]

You hope he is illuminati? :( Well he is so your wish is granted

[realreality]

I see where orderoutofchaos is coming from on this one.

If Obama is the "Perfect Politician" then the Conspiracies that surround him will all have been proven false. On the other hand we cannot go about as if he is to be trusted. I guess we all have to sit back, grab some popcorn and wait until January to see what happens then whilst seeing if anything occurs in the meantime.

[realfake]

You'll know exactly which side of the fence he sits on, when he starts shitting on you from a great height.

[h2pogo]

the only change obama will bring is the nwo.
I think this will be hard to hide
therefore i think this is not the end but the beginning.

[helloperator]

He's an American politician...of course he is sinister to the core

[orderoutofchaos]

I see where orderoutofchaos is coming from on this one.

If Obama is the "Perfect Politician" then the Conspiracies that surround him will all have been proven false. On the other hand we cannot go about as if he is to be trusted. I guess we all have to sit back, grab some popcorn and wait until January to see what happens then whilst seeing if anything occurs in the meantime.

I think you are right on this one, wait and see what happens in the coming few months, lets see if he is "change we can believe in"

[orderoutofchaos]

the only change obama will bring is the nwo.
I think this will be hard to hide
therefore i think this is not the end but the beginning.

Realistically, how do we know that for sure, we will only know wether he is Illuminati when we see his actions over the coming months.

[jennf]

Please watch the 2 vids at the start of this thread and listen out for Biden and Powell :eek:

The Next Attack: The NWO Puzzle...
2 videos of great importance I think. Very well made. Video 2 goes into more depth, but take some time to check these out! Posted by Earthlasthope on Youtube.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40977

[duckingdafta]

All just IMO: this year was the year of truths on many sides.. next year will be that realisation in action. 'the crusade' has already started in many different ways for different people and it itself won't be realised until late 2009 due to mistrust in each others causes. Once that is overcome the different groups (who won't have known names so as not to be recognised or infiltrated) come together then the plan(s) can be carried out at simultaneous times to have max effect. I made a vid once (just posted coincidently on another post) in which I tried to show if people stay in their homes and ignore what's going on then TPTB will just come for you, so you might as well fight back. Barrack doesn't have to actually be telling the truth himself as he made the people themselves think they have the power to do it for themselves on many levels, so it may or may not be important that a 'Black Man' (<media headed) is in charge, it's the people who matter... if it was a plan and we act first for the peoples minds then it would backfire.

I believe this is one reason why even your mothers meetings are now seen as possible terrorist groups and some have themselves got their spies...times HAVE already changed whilst people were stood listening for over a year to a man telling them he's going to give you 'Change'.... the perfect mind manipulation.

All I can add is I bet the Henry Jackson Society are buzzing now and Zbigniew Brzezinski is coming every minute with his next victim.... but they WON'T defeat the energies I know are on the way

[steevo]

The people in the street that the mainstream media interview are just the ones that fit in with the agenda and by showing those people on tv, it helps to promote the agenda. It's just more biased reporting. The people are definitely waking up in larger numbers now, slowly to begin with but all of a sudden there will be a mass awakening.

[zen_fox]

Obama has won more of the popular vote then any president in the past 30 years. He may not even be at the height of his popularity yet. He will have far more power than Bush. Remember that all of the executive orders from Bush will carry over for Obama, but unlike Bush Obama will have near complete support (rabid support) from the populace and not to mention the overwhelming support of both the house of representatives and congress as the democrats sit in majority in both. The mainstream media is fawning over Obama as well. He has basically little opposition at all. At this point whatever Obama wants will easily achieved. We will all know his motives very soon. I think by May it will be clear what his plans are. If he is going to help he'll have no problem doing it. If he's to usher in a total police state, he'll have little problem doing that as well. The world today is saying the name Barack Obama today.

[red_ram]

I can't believe all this pessimism I've seen today. What on earth did you think would happen? That everyone who turned up to those speeches would suddenly not bother voting?

Our 'crusade' hasn't ended. It hasn't even been dented. Pick yourselves up and carry on.

[damagedbrainn]

That all depends on what personal "crusade" the individuals in question were embarking on.

The more hardcore conspiracy followers aren't going anywhere. Many, however, were turned on to conspiracy theories due to the blatant corruption exhibited by the Bush administration. Frankly, Bush has been a conspiracy theorist's best friend for the past eight years. Once he leaves office, many of these people will begin to drop out of the "movement"; but then they'll be replaced by angry, disenfranchised conservatives.

[strife]

That all depends on what personal "crusade" the individuals in question were embarking on.

The more hardcore conspiracy followers aren't going anywhere. Many, however, were turned on to conspiracy theories due to the blatant corruption exhibited by the Bush administration. Frankly, Bush has been a conspiracy theorist's best friend for the past eight years. Once he leaves office, many of these people will begin to drop out of the "movement"; but then they'll be replaced by angry, disenfranchised conservatives.

Well said, I completely agree on that scenario. And I've already seen it happening.

[haukipesukone]

looking at the reaction of the public to Obamas win i can see divisions starting to develop with the anti new world order movements. i really dont know wether Obama is illuminati or not but i hope he is not for all our sakes. Do you think, because of the impact of this guy, people will listen to the conspiracy theories?

Of course he Illuminati (as in working for them). I don't get it why people don't take it for granted. A pile of rubbish if a pile of rubbish unless proven otherwise.

You seriously think America suddenly turned from years of manipulation and deception into an honest "democratic" society just because of one guy who hasn't even done anything?


If Obama is the "Perfect Politician" then the Conspiracies that surround him will all have been proven false. On the other hand we cannot go about as if he is to be trusted. I guess we all have to sit back, grab some popcorn and wait until January to see what happens then whilst seeing if anything occurs in the meantime.

I think Obama is the "Perfect Politician", meaning has absolutely no conscience or morals, except his programming and devotion toward his cause.

Has anyone any evidence that Obama isn't like all the other politicians? All the evidence I've seen is that he's worse. A corrupt system designed to bullshit and abuse people isn't going to produce an honest and decent man. Or if it does he doesn't get to be president.

[ownedtbh]

Of course he Illuminati (as in working for them). I don't get it why people don't take it for granted. A pile of rubbish if a pile of rubbish unless proven otherwise.

You seriously think America suddenly turned from years of manipulation and deception into an honest "democratic" society just because of one guy who hasn't even done anything?

exactly