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2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:02 AM

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:03 AM

Saturnalia was the feast at which the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of the god Saturn, which took place on 17 December. Over the years, it expanded to a whole week, up to 23 December. In the vagaring Roman calendar the Winter Solstice fell in this period; in imperial times that event was celebrated in honour of Sol Invictus and put on 25 December by emperor Aurelian in 274, so after the Saturnalia.

Saturnalia's relation to Christmas

There is a theory that Christians in the fourth century assigned December 25th (the Winter Solstice on the Julian calendar) as Christ's birthday (and thus Christmas) because pagans already observed this day as a holiday. This would sidestep the problem of eliminating an already popular holiday while Christianizing the population.

It is also possible to see it as early Christians replacing the Pagan celebration in an act of triumphalism. However, others claim that early Christians independently came up with the date of December 25th based on a Jewish tradition of the "integral age" of the Jewish prophets (the idea that the prophets of Israel died on the same dates as their birth or conception), and a miscalculation of the date of Jesus' death. It is even sometimes claimed that Aurelian moved the feast of Sol Invictus to December 25th to co-opt the Christian celebration.

The Romans also practiced many traditions similar to Christmas; specifically the "Christmas tree", though the Christmas tree itself is a later development in the celebration of Christmas (having its origins in Germany, possibly during the Reformation). The Romans often cut down evergreens and decorated them to pay homage to Saturn, the god of farming. This was to honor the fact that the evergreens remained alive during the harshness of winter. It was also traditional for Romans to exchange gifts during this holiday. These gifts were customarily made of silver, although nearly anything could be given as a gift for the occasion. Several epigrams by the poet Martial survive, seemingly crafted as riddling gift-tags for gifts of food. The medieval celebration of the Feast of Fools was another continuation of Saturnalia into the Christian era.

Origins

The Saturnalia was a large and important public festival in Rome. It involved the conventional sacrifices, a couch (lectisternium) set out in front of the temple of Saturn and the untying of the ropes that bound the statue of Saturn during the rest of the year. Besides the public rites there were a series of holidays and customs celebrated privately. The celebrations included a school holiday, the making and giving of small presents (saturnalia et sigillaricia) and a special market (sigillaria). Gambling was allowed for all, even slaves; although it was only officially condoned during this period, one should not assume that it was rare or much remarked upon during the rest of the year. It was a time to eat, drink, and be merry. The toga was not worn, but the pilleus (freedman's hat) was worn by everyone. Slaves were exempt from punishment, and treated their masters with disrespect. The slaves celebrated a banquet, before, with, or served by the masters. A Saturnalicius princeps was elected master of ceremonies for the proceedings. Saturnalia became one of the most popular Roman festivals which led to more tomfoolery, marked chiefly by having masters and slaves switch places, which led to widespread drinking and debauchery, so that among Christians the (lower case) word "saturnalia" came to mean "orgy".

The customary greeting for the occasion is a "Io, Saturnalia!" — io (pronounced "yo") being a Latin interjection related to "ho" (as in "Ho, praise to Saturn").

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia)

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:05 AM

Saturnalia

By the beginning of December, writes Columella, the farmer should have finished his autumn planting. Now, at the time of the winter solstice (December 25 in the Julian calendar), Saturnus, the god of seed and sowing, was honored with a festival. The Saturnalia officially was celebrated on December 17 (a.d. XVI Kal. Ian.) and, in Cicero's time, lasted seven days, from December 17-23. Augustus limited the holiday to three days, so the civil courts would not have to be closed any longer than necessary, and Caligula extended it to five (Suetonius, XVII; Cassius Dio, LIX.6), which Claudius restored after it had been abolished (Dio, LX.25). Still, everyone seems to have continued to celebrate for a full week, extended, says Macrobius (I.10.24), by celebration of the Sigillaria, so named for the small earthenware figurines that were sold then.

Macrobius, in his Saturnalia, creates an imaginary symposium among pagan intellectuals that takes place then. There, he offers an explanation for the varying length of the holiday. Originally, it was celebrated on only one day, the fourteenth before the Kalends of January (December 19). With the Julian reform of the calendar, however, two days were added to December, and the Saturnalia was celebrated sixteen days before the Kalends (December 17), "with the result that, since the exact day was not commonly known--some observing the addition which Caesar had made to the calendar and others following the old usage--the festival came to be regarded as lasting for more days than one" (I.10.2). The original day now was given over to the Opalia, honoring Ops, who personified abundance and the fruits of the earth, and was the consort of Saturn. As the two deities represented the produce of the fields and orchards, so they also were thought to represent heaven and earth. It was for this reason, says Macrobius (I.10.20), that the two festivals were celebrated at the same time, the worshippers of Ops always sitting in prayer so that they touched the earth, mother of all.

In the Roman calendar, the Saturnalia was designated a holy day, or holiday, on which religious rites were performed. Saturn, himself, was identified with Kronos, and sacrificed to according to Greek ritual, with the head uncovered. The Temple of Saturn, the oldest temple recorded by the pontiffs, had been dedicated on the Saturnalia, and the woolen bonds which fettered the feet of the ivory cult statue within were loosened on that day to symbolize the liberation of the god.

It also was a festival day. After sacrifice at the temple, there was a public banquet, which Livy says was introduced in 217 BC (there also may have been a lectisternium, a banquet for the god in which its image is placed in attendance, as if a guest). Afterwards, according to Macrobius (I.10.18), the celebrants shouted "Io, Saturnalia!" at a riotous feast in the temple.

The Saturnalia was the most popular holiday of the Roman year. Catullus (XIV) describes it as "the best of days," and Seneca complains that the "whole mob has let itself go in pleasures" (Epistles, XVIII.3). Pliny the Younger writes that he retired to his room while the rest of the household celebrated (Epistles, II.17.24). It was an occasion for celebration, visits to friends, and the presentation of gifts, particularly wax candles (cerei), perhaps to signify the returning light after the solstice, and sigillaria. Martial wrote Xenia and Apophoreta for the Saturnalia. Both were published in December and intended to accompany the "guest gifts" which were given at that time of year. Aulus Gellius relates in his Attic Nights (XVIII.2) that he and his Roman compatriots would gather at the baths in Athens, where they were studying, and pose difficult questions to one another on the ancient poets, a crown of laurel being dedicated to Saturn if no-one could answer them.

Full Article:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=14789
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/calendar/saturnalia.html

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:06 AM

Some pictures of the Pope's Mitre symbolising Dagon/SATURN

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2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:07 AM

Days of the week are named after planets and pagan gods!
Sunday = Sun's day
Monday = Moon's day: derived from the Anglo-Saxon monandaeg,
Tuesday = named after the Norse god of war, Tiu, or Tiw
Wednesday = named to honour Odin, or Woden, chief god in Norse mythology.
Thursday = named after Thor, Norse god of thunder.
Friday = Anglo-Saxon frìgedaeg; from Old High German Frìa, a goddess
Saturday = Saturn's day: named in honour of the Roman god Saturn.

What is the system behind the planetary day names?

As we saw in the previous section, the planets have given the week
days their names following this order:

Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn, Sun

Why this particular order?

One theory goes as follows: If you order the "planets" according to
either their presumed distance from Earth (assuming the Earth to be
the centre of the universe) or their period of revolution around the
Earth, you arrive at this order:

Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn

Now, assign (in reverse order) these planets to the hours of the day:

1=Saturn, 2=Jupiter, 3=Mars, 4=Sun, 5=Venus, 6=Mercury, 7=Moon,
8=Saturn, 9=Jupiter, etc., 23=Jupiter, 24=Mars

The next day will then continue where the old day left off:

1=Sun, 2=Venus, etc., 23=Venus, 24=Mercury

And the next day will go

1=Moon, 2=Saturn, etc.

If you look at the planet assigned to the first hour of each day, you
will note that the planets come in this order:

Saturn, Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus

This is exactly the order of the associated week days.

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:08 AM

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:09 AM

Have you all noticed how when people talk of 666 they always talk of SATAN or the BEAST? They do not reference Lucifer! Reason is that Lucifer is something entirely different and that it is the planet VENUS. Some believe Lucifer is the Sun but either way Lucifer is not SATURN and therefore not SATAN -2tuff

Saturn is the sixth planet from the Sun and the second largest:

orbit: 1,429,400,000 km (9.54 AU) from Sun
diameter: 120,536 km (equatorial)
mass: 5.68e26 kg

The great seal (mark) of Lucifer is the six-pointed star.

The six-pointed star symbolizes man's union with the divine:

"The Septenary Universe unfolds seamlessly from Infinity to the physical plane but it was divided into Seven Planes of Existence--or states of consciousness--by The Hierarchy who released this information through Mme. Blavatsky. The Three Higher Planes--Atma (Infinity), Buddhi (Light) and Manas (Higher Intelligence) constitute the Higher Self. The Higher Self is represented by the triangle pointing upwards. Interestingly enough, everyone and everything in the Universe has the same three principles in their seven-principled bodies and this constitutes the principle of Universal Brotherhood.
"The triangle pointing downwards is representative of the lower self, the three principles of sensient life--the 'breath of life' (which is a reflection of the Highest Principle), the Astral Body and the physical Body.
"When we come into existence, these two triangles are separated, the higher above the lower. In between is a single point of consciousness which represents the soul. The soul is the vehicle of our desires. If we desire the things of the lower principles, the fire of out soul is directed downward and, if our lower desires are strong enough, goes out.
"However, if we direct the fire upwards into our Higher Self, we receive the higher energies necessary to RAISE OUR LOWER SELF into harmony with our Higher Self. Thus the lower and Higher self become locked together in place in perfect Union by the principle of the soul. Thus we attain full consciousness awareness on ALL PLANES of the universe and he have, in effect, spiritualized our lower self, to the point where it has raised its energies into Union with the Higher.
"As the great metaphysician Mme. Helena Roerich said, 'Man becomes simply a god...and then God.'" - GaiaMind

“In Ritual Magick, the hexagon is called the Seal of Solomon, and represents Divine Union, being composed of a female, watery triangle, and a male, fiery triangle. The traditional elemental triangles of earth, air, water, and fire are derived from the seal. When the points of a hexagram are connected, a hexagon is formed. Kabbalistically, the hexagram represents the Sefirah Tifaret, perfection...

“In the Hindu religion, the hexagram is called the Shatkona, and is equivalent to the symbolism in ritual magick. The Shatkona is the combination of the Shiva kona (trikona, triangle), the symbol of the God Shiva, representing the element of fire, and the Shakti kona, representing the element of water. Together, they represent the union of male and female, and the heart chakra.” - Hexagram (Shatkona, Seal of Solomon)

c. The six-pointed star is considered by occultists to be the Star of Bethlehem which will precede the Advent of the False Christ.
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days...shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven..." (Matt. 24:29-30)
"The Star is the symbol of the perfect life, the perfect balance, of the Christ-man. The six-pointed star is the Star of Bethlehem, which again means the Star of the Son of man...
"The star with the six points represents the star of Light...of brotherhood, the Star of Christ. The love of Christ is represented by this Star. So, we have in that symbol a representation of the Ancient Wisdom, and the love of Christ, the wisdom and love combined, which is to be realized by humanity in this New Age - the age of Aquarius." - GaiaMind

"Now, the name SATURN in Chaldee is pronounced Satur; but, as every Chaldee scholar knows, consists only of four letters, thus - Stur [ed. Star?]. This name contains exactly the Apocalyptic number." (Hislop, p. 269)
S = 060
T = 400
U = 006
R = 200
= 666
"Sri Aurobindo, a Hindu guru well-known in the New Age affirms that SATURN IS REPRESENTED BY THE NUMBER 6… because the planet Saturn is 6th of the nine planets in distance from the sun." (Marrs: Mystery Mark, p. 68)

Dagon, the Fish-god, is associated with the forehead and hands, the location of the mark of the beast.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/dagon.gif
Note: Dagon's crown is the top of a 6-pointed star.

Rev. 13:1 - And I saw the BEAST RISE UP OUT OF THE SEA

Rev. 13:16 - …a mark IN THEIR RIGHT HAND, OR IN THEIR FOREHEADS

I Sam. 5:4 - And when they arose early on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon was fallen upon his face to the earth before the ark of the Lord; and the HEAD OF DAGON AND BOTH THE PALMS OF HIS HANDS WERE CUT OFF upon the threshold; only did the stump of Dagon was left to him.

In the mystery religions, both the forehead and hands were tattooed during rites of initiation. (Reason Dagon's hands and head were cut off.)

Concerning Mithraism: "INITIATION was performed by two dignitaries, who possessed the title of Father and Herald. After the ceremony (the initiate) would be considered the brother…of the other initiates and the son of the Father… In order to be recognized by the Father, he has to be TATOOED, in other words, BRANDED ON BOTH HANDS… On portraits of emperors, these TATTOO MARKS are clearly visible, but ON THE FOREHEAD, IN PLACE OF THE HANDS." (Vermaseren, p. 131)

The tattoo bonds the initiate with the entity symbolized by the tattoo and enables him to communicate with that demonic power.

"In some pictures of a tattooed man we are faced by a permanent prayer to and identification with the heavenly powers, at the same time as a basic means of communication with them. Such is the most generalized meaning of tattooing bestowed in consequence of a rite of initiation which allows this communication to take place. At the same time, this initiation is a rite of admission into a social group and the tattoo is the PERMANENT MARK OF THAT INITIATION, the badge of the tribe.

"All in all, tattooing belongs among symbols of identification and is interfused with all their magic and mystic potency. Identification always carries a double meaning: it tends to invest the individual concerned with the properties and strength of the CREATURE OR THING TO WHICH THAT PERSON IS ASSIMILATED and, at the same time, to immunize the latter against its potential power to cause harm. This is why tattoos depict dangerous creatures such as serpents or scorpions, or animals which are symbols of fertility, such as bulls or of power, such as lions, and so on. Identification also carries a SENSE OF SURRENDER OR EVEN OF CONSECRATION to whatever the tattoo symbolically depicts. It then becomes a BADGE OF FEALTY." - Chevalier's Dictionary of Symbols

http://www.watch.pair.com/mark2.html

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:10 AM

THE POPES CAMAURO

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The camauro is the white fur-trimmed red bonnet reserved to Popes in place of the biretta. No Pope since John XXIII (d. 1963) has used it.

The camauro, like the biretta, evolved from the academic cap of the Middle Ages. Unlike the biretta, however, it did not evolve much. The camauro in its present form was established by the twelfth century.

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http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/5885/amanitamuscariamuscaria1uf7.jpg

Remember the importance of this Mushroom to the High Priests!

Look like something to you?

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:12 AM

Ok I am new here and want to post some info about saturn.

The oldest depiction of our sun is about 20000 years old and they found them in caves in spain and france, it is the circle with point in the middle and EIGHT spokes:

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3518/wieleightjz3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

link: http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/...rn/rockart.html (http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/Saturn/rockart.html)

Why eight spokes?

The babylonians called it shamash and is the circle with dot with the eight spokes again. By the way the eight spokes are like a double cross which it represent see fig:

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8436/saturnshamashtt4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Well to make a long story short; a long time ago the sun looked like this:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7342/marscoverhz8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Some links: http://www.maverickscience.com/saturn.htm
http://www.catastrophism.com/texts/sun-and-saturn/
http://www.aeonjournal.com/articles/road_t..._to_saturn.html (http://www.aeonjournal.com/articles/road_to_saturn/road_to_saturn.html)
http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/...n/aliensky.html (http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/Saturn/aliensky.html)

The white one is saturn without rings (they came later) the green one is venus and the red one is mars.(here we have the white ,green and red dragon)

It is the circle with dot in centre they called the dot the "EYE".

If you know the priciples of geometry than you know the principles of the square.The square is the generative principle, it is the root of two.

Banks generate, that is why a lot of logo's of banks are square's or tilted sguare's. The generate principle is AIR which is the octaheder and that is root of two.

For instance chase bank is a square.

So the saturn is a black square. Mars is the red square (see moscow)
and green is the colour of venus and that is the green square.Look it up in tripoli you have the green square aswell in beirut.(I will do a post on the green square soon)

Why is saturn a black square because it is the prince of darkness.

A long time ago something happened and that is that the earth tilted and that venus departed saturn and went our (earth) way and she just past us and with that threw a lot of water on our planet.

Venus induced the flood she induced the wall of water,that's why there is a weeping wall and she flooded the earth she was the initiator of the currentsea which is currency. That is why the dollar is green and you deal it in WALL street.

The islamic world is all about venus that is why you always find green in their flags.

So saturn lost his compagnions,venus and mars and saturn died as god.In the time saturn was god there where no seasons it was always spring represented as number 322 (skull & bones). That is why saturn is called kronos and is father time or eternity because there was no time.When saturn died he lost his eight spokes (the spokes where interference light of venus and mars which was in front of him)Put number eight on its side and it is the endless sign.

When saturn died, then our sun came to our world,our sun brought the seasons so time started.

In this symbol you find the change between the black and the white sun:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5606/vaticancollectionwj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In the centre saturn whith out the spokes!! Remember venus went our way.Without spokes it is called "noeight" which the word night comes from and incidently that is where the word knight comes from.And a knight is a horse that horse is EL and that is why the chess piece moves that way.The black horse is saturn the white is our sun.

English: no eight = night.
French: non huit = nuit.
German: nein acht = nacht.
Italian: non otto = notte
Spanish: non oche = noche.
Russian ne vosem' = noch'
Polish nie osiem = noc
Sanskrit na as.t.a^u = nak
Avestan no^it~ as^ti = xs^ap
Greek ou okto^ = nux
Albanian s' tete" = nate"
Irish ni ocht = adaig
Welsh ni wyth = nos
Lith. ne as^tuoni` = nakti`s
Hittite natta 8 = nekuz

The most important is NOEIGHT which is NOACHT and that is NOACH.

Yet look again under you see a kind of cresent moon but that is the new SUN!!!!

Altogether that is called ARCHA NOA. The cross which contains the trinity(look good) is venus. Our lady which looses a lot of water. At night(noach) we eat our last supper and the above mentioned is what leonardo's painting is al about.Look how the lady disapears from the sun jesus.

A lot of oil company's have the sun in their logo,but it can be one or the other so exxon is the double cross(spokes) of saturn.

Esso is SO which is:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4041/zosofd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And this one is really funny:

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/61/q8logonh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You see the rings in the Q and the eight is saturn because of his spokes.
And than the sail of the windsurfing sail,there are TWO remember wind is air and that is octaheder(root of two) this is the generating principle.

More on saturn but you have to know geometry that is what the letter G stands for:

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/3553/hoekenpassercu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Why is this saturn? Look at the compass it makes an angle of 60 degrees.
A triangle with all three corners of 60 degree is one with all the side same lenght. You can have one with point up and because as above as below you have one with point down the result is star david also called star of moloch and this is saturn:

http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/1817/davidstergi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

An other name for this star is dark star or dying star.

If you make a 3-D star of this star david you get a doublestar tetrahedron or merkaba, surrounding this figure is a cube and that is the 90 degrees of the square in the famous mason sign.

The complementarity of the cube is the octahederon which is the symbol of air or the generative principle(root of two transformation) see fig:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2889/cubeoctabi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ok another symbol for saturn is this one:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2729/skullenbones322ta8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The number 322 is known it represent SPRING Saturn as sun knew no seasons it was always a kind of spring time.

But there is more see fig:

Picture (http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2444/clockskullbonesig7.jpg)

In the point of the tablecloth you see the slanted black square(saturn)
And the clock stands still as of no time and the clocks says 8 o'clock this is saturn, remember the planet with eight spokes?

Now I continue with this one:

Picture (http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9831/brackenhousezi4.jpg)

The black sun is saturn and the sun behind is luke skywalker our jolly jumper, around the twelve houses of the zodiac.

The present sun with zodiac is squared by the black square and that is called squaring of the circle.

Ok saturn(kronos) is no time and sun is time it induced the seasons.

The sun is orange that is why stanley kubrick made a film called: A Clockwork Orange.

Will be continued...

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:13 AM

This one is about Kubrick's a space odessey 2001.

Saturn like they used to depict 20000 years ago:

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3518/wieleightjz3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Kubrick did it this way:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1272/2001achtspakenko4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and this way:

http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/2554/2001achtspaken1verkleintqc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ok the monolith is saturn and above is the sun rising this is ARCHA NOA:

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9430/spaceodyssey2001ap1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

When this scene happens you see this, it is a metafor for the dying sun (saturn) this old sungod El is making place for the new sungod:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7071/2001slaanskullenbonesverkleintfc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The vatican knows this and this figure is now better to understand,watch carefully at the eight spoked star in the shield:

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/497/skullenbonesmetsterachtspakenwf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So we are talking about the one son of god dying (saturn) and the coming of the new son of god (our present sun) This altogether here:

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7717/jesuskruiszonskullenbonesnz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Once you know this, alot of more symbols are better to understand like this one:

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4088/abcnewsno0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:14 AM

Once You know the code of the eight spoked star you will see it.Here on top of the mantle piece(left and right) behind the pope:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1879/popeferrariachtspakensterls4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So keep in mind the the square it is very important it is the root of two.The basic platonic solid of this principle is the octaheder.

If you look on top of an octaheder you see a square or slanted square,looking side ways you get the DIAMOND! That is why diamonds are forever!

And you under stand, Lucy in the sky with diamonds (LSD).

So the pope said some thing wrong about some islamic people who by the way are the same men in black.The pope apologies and a picture was taken:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9025/pauswiebertjehoopgedondervk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6180/paushoopgedonderwiebertjeyf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Remember this is black magic!

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:15 AM

Why is 1776 a very important date for the USA?

Well look at the numbers.The first two is:

1+7=8 we know that that is the eight spokes or the double cross:

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3518/wieleightjz3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

So that is saturn (the old sun)

The next two numbers is 76 so:

7+6=13 and that is our sun.It is called the light,luz,lucy,lucas or luke and
we know that our sun walks trough the constallations in the sky that is why mr.lucas called our sun "luke skywalker".
That is 12 constellations and the sun makes 13 althogether the zodiac.

So the sun is the spirit of 76 and we now know that oil comp. have the sun in their logo so this oil compagny is clear now it is the orange globe:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2205/76oiluz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So the date 1776 represents is the old world (old sun saturn) going to the new world (our sun).

We know from sacred geometry that the square represents the root of two and is called the "generative principle".

Please remenber that all heavenly bodies (planets and stars) are often depicted as square's or tilted square's this is because they generate all kinds of energies.

So the generating energy from the orange globe(sun) is the orange square:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1790/orangelogovf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Some walk around saturn:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5157/kaabarotatie1pn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Others just put it on their forehead:

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5853/blacksquaresoldaatbidtcl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:16 AM

I want to introduce another symbol and that is the circle in the triangle.
It stands for god or as other researches call it, creator.

An example: AOL, pronounced OWL and that is moloch, star david,merkaba and yes again Saturn:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3300/aolbasicyt7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

We see this symbol on the throne of the queen of England:

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6278/throneog9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

By the way the queen has a crown on her head which contains the blackhat(saturn) on top of the crown the "knight of malta square":

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4042/queenspeech050517wc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ok let's have a look at the throne of the queen of the netherlands.The throne is situated in the "ridderzaal" where "ridder"=knight=noeight=night=saturn and "zaal"=hall. Saturnhall you can call it. Look what is above the throne.It is a giant square=root of two:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8131/troonzaalqt2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lovely chandeliers ain't it?

Let's have a closer look at the throne of the queen of the netherlands and pay close attention to the arrow.You will notice the black circle in the triangle and in the black circle there is a white pentagram with the point downward and that is venus:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4979/binnenhofbinnenpijlji9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The window of the hall of saturn will be familiar by now:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5245/ridderzaalglasinloodxt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Again that window of the knighs hall.Look at the bottom:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5245/ridderzaalglasinloodxt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You see the black eagle looking west and that is sun set aka SETH saturn this is the one old world pillar and the bird looks right to the east where the new sun rises and that is to other world pillar.

2tuff

05-02-2007, 04:17 AM

Ok here you see the old world pillar saturn and the new world pillar our sun in between the root of two;the slanted square:

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4320/octatussenpilarentb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

These two pillars represent the world trade centre which are down now.

So what comes in place? The square on a square! Or 1776 remember:
1+7=8 saturn
7+6=13 sun

1776 is old sun to new sun. So they will build a freedom tower:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8573/doosopdoosgebouw1776feethoogrj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Rising from its square base -- which will be constructed of impermeable concrete and steel -- the redesigned Freedom Tower will taper into eight tall isosceles triangles, forming a perfect octagon at its center. An observation deck will be located 1,362 feet above ground and there will be a square glass parapet at 1,368 feet, the heights of the original Twin Towers. From these, an illuminated spire containing a television antenna will rise to a final height of 1,776 feet.

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/constructio...ower_26204.aspx (http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/freedom_tower_26204.aspx)

Ok, so saturn before the flood is the white,green and red.

Together the god EL. It is the colours of italy,the most powerful country on this globe.

It is so powerful that even the country's shape is of an EL (L)!

So this one is pretty strong:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3637/italyallekleurenqe4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Still any doubt? This is SETH:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4294/sethjpegho5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another saturn:

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1610/sleipnirbelowcl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleipnir

horseflesh

07-02-2007, 01:35 AM

Thanks 2tuff, it's amazing just how far all this goes. Not that I have a complete grasp of what you posted (yet), this is something I am looking more into, especially the symbolism as we see these symbols everywhere and most just take them for granted not realising the hidden meanings.

Again thanks. :cool:

oneofmany

07-02-2007, 11:52 AM

I thought that 1776 referred to May 1 1776 or the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati .

good to know other significances for the same number. You and Jordan Maxwell would have a lot to talk about.

Keep up the Investigating, you've got me wrapped :D

oneofmany

07-02-2007, 12:07 PM

Here's a little bit more about the mushroom and it's role in Christmas
http://www.jamesarthur.net/mm_01.html

interesting stuff

grackle

16-08-2007, 04:43 AM

THE POPES CAMAURO

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/popecamauro.jpg

[Pope as Santa Clause.:) Why are his eyes green?

warrior

16-08-2007, 11:29 PM

very interesting thread, good work

I asked you previously about details of Jesuit/Illuminati relations with Russia since the Russian Revolution to the present day, and particularly what is known about Putin, maybe you will make such a thread

lydia78

22-08-2007, 05:23 PM

Hi 2Tuff!!:)

Just wanted to say a big thankyou for this info, bloody interesting. Saturn is my 'ruler' planet as far as astrology goes and for ages I've been thinking along the same lines about the corruption of time and energy, it's the oldest planet in the solar system so it figures they'd be up to something.

Going to go and digest all this info now.....:D

binhdinh_khiwarrior

28-08-2007, 06:24 PM

cool post!

easter eggs = roman tradition. chickens were symbols of bravery/strength. it's seven years bad luck to break a mirror because the roman tradition held that mirrors hold/contain the soul, and it takes seven years to repair the broken soul.

2013

29-08-2007, 12:21 AM

excellent posts 2 tuff good info , so this all links in with the supposed attempts to recreate saturn or jupiter as a sun possibly ? This would also explain why they would seek to have the microchipping agenda in place b4 this occurs so as they have complete control over the people who survive any possible catastrophy.I was going to ask the question what does knowing that saturn was once a sun have to do with anything except "we know something you dont know ", i couldnt figure out how this would give or help them maintain their power base but in knowing that if this could be recreated then they would have foreknowledge of the events to unfold .I was thinking so if saturn was a sun how could the derive power from that and even if it was common knowledge most people would just sigh and go back to football soap operas etc . But it s knowledge of the game that gives them power not any particular cosmic influence maybe ? Still very good info thanks for sharing , i wonder seeing as the vatican library is being restored and has been moved or is in th eprocess of being moved maybe we wil lsee new revelations come to light or controlled release of info?:D

goldman

12-08-2008, 06:14 AM

Ring of the Fisherman

Pope Benedict XVI's Ring

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Fisherring.jpg

The Ring of the Fisherman, also known as the Piscatory Ring and the Pescatorio (in Italian), is an official part of the regalia worn by the Pope, who is described by the Catholic Church (of which he is the head) as the successor of Saint Peter, who was a fisherman by trade. It features a bas-relief of Peter fishing from a boat, a symbolism derived from the tradition that the apostles were "fishers of men" (Mark 1:17). The Fisherman's Ring is a signet used until 1842 to seal official documents signed by the Pope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_the_Fisherman

keenly

13-08-2008, 02:27 PM

eternal_spirit

13-08-2008, 02:36 PM

russia is most definately controlled

Yes by Zionists

keenly

13-08-2008, 05:27 PM

Yes by Zionists

zionists are under vatican control

serpentoffire

13-08-2008, 05:54 PM

Saturn - Cosmic Keeper of Time

http://www.geocities.com/osirian63/html/planets/saturn.html

If Jupiter is the King of the Planets, then Saturn is the Queen of the Planets. Saturn, in ancient days, was known as Chronos, the keeper of Time. Chronos, was the son of Uranus and his wife, Rhea (the firmament). Chronos' wife was Gaia (the Earth). Saturn is the mother and giver of all forms, both mother and father, and posessing qualities of both sexes.

The rings around Saturn were easily seen by the ancients, and limit the planet within them, as time limits our existence here on Earth. Saturn is the last planet the ancients could see with their primitive telescopes, and so we have 7 days in the week, each day named after a corresponding planet. This is most evident from the French (or Spanish) names for the days of the week, as follows:

Sunday - SUNday - pretty obvious, eh?
Monday - MOONday - Lundi (Luna's Day)
Tuesday - MARSday - Mardi (Mars' Day) (eg Mardi Gras)
Wednesday - WODEN'sday - Mercredi (Mercury's Day)
Thursday - THOR'sday - Jeudi - (Jupiter's Day)
Friday - VENUSday - Vendredi - (Venus' Day)
Saturday - SATURNday - Samedi - (Saturn's Day)

In fact, the word MONTH comes from the length of time the moon takes to complete one revolution around the Earth (a MOONTH) or 28 days. There are 13 lunar months and 12 solar months in each year of our Earth.

You can also go to The Birth of Islam, a fascinating essay in progress which discusses the theory that the Ancient Egyptians used just such a 10-day week, and it was subsequently reduced to 7 days for various reasons. The author declares Egypt held on to her "ancient celestial tradition of reality" until it was replaced with the "7 days of creation, the 7 spirits of God, and the 7 wandering bodies in the heavens" for which our days of the week are so aptly and obviously named. An excellent essay, thus far!

Days of week names are related to occult powers inside the man (alchemy):

7. Sun-day – Gold – Crown chakra – URANIC gate – Point of soul

6. Moon-day – Silver – Third eye

5. Tues-day (in italian marte-dì or Mars day) – ETHER - Iron/Sulphur – Throat chakra

4. Wednes-day (in Italian mercole-di or Mercury day) – AIR - Mercury - Heart chakra – Point of spirit

3. Thurs-day (in Italian giove-di or Jupiter day) – FIRE - Tin – Solar plexus chakra

2. Fri-day (in Italian vener-di or Venus day) – WATER - Copper - Sacral plexus chakra

1. Satur-day (Saturn day) – EARTH - Lead/Steel/Salt/Ammoniac – Root chakra – TELLURIC gate

The same for the months that have an alchemy meaning:

1. Aries, FIRE, Calcination
2. Taurus, EARTH, Congelation
3. Gemini, AIR, Fixation
4. Cancer, WATER, Dissolution
5. Leo, FIRE, Digestion
6. Virgo, EARTH, Distillation
7. Libra, AIR, Sublimation
8. Scorpio, WATER, Separation
9. Sagittarius, FIRE, Incineration
10. Capricorn, EARTH, Fermentation
11. Aquarius, AIR, Multiplication
12. Pisces, WATER, Projection

serpentoffire

13-08-2008, 06:07 PM

SATURNIA

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/ITALYSATURN.jpg

(ITALY THE SEAT OF WORLD POWER)

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/hotelsaturnia.gif http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/dagon.gif
Hotel Saturnia logo with its Dragon looks very fishy like Dagon known as Saturn (EL)

Hotel Saturnia & International
S. Marco 2398 - Via XXII Marzo Venice - Italy

VENICE - ITALY HOME OF THE HIGHEST BLACK NOBILITY

Hotel Saturnia is located in the heart of Venice, only 250 metres from St. Mark's Square

SQUARE = SATURN THE GOD EL
(THE BLACK SQUARE/BLACK SUN)

"SATURN wandered to Italy, where he ruled as king in the Golden Age and gave the name SATURNIA to the country." (Encyclopedia Britannica, "Saturn," p. 231)

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/PopeBenedictwithredSATURNOhat.jpg
Pope Benedict XVI wears a "saturno hat", inspired by the ringed planet Saturn, to shield himself from the sun as he waves to the crowd of faithful prior to his weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican Wednesday.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/carloskissinghandofpope.jpg http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/dagon.gif
The Pope's Mitre is simply taken from once again Saturnknown as Dagon

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Saturn_(God) (http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Saturn_%28God%29)
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/2...5-pope-hat.html (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20060906-0705-pope-hat.html)

-2TUFF 26/9/6

If you want to know samething of Italy ask to me. I'm Italian and I live in Rome.

Catholic religion has Sunday (Apollo/Dionysus) as rest day and Hebraism Saturday. So Hebraism is the religion of SATURN (aka CRONUS). Catholicism instead is the religion of URANOS.

See my thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27927

Catholic means UNIVERSAL and it is the sum of Christianity , mitraism, cult of Saturn and other pagan rites and cults. This in order to create a super-religion with the purpose to dominate and enslave people under the Roman empire.

Another target of catholic religion was to bind temporal power with spiritual power.

Vatican is a monument to occult powers:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/sanpeter.jpg

URANUS AND THE MYTH The implications of Uranus in the chart seem to be reversed in comparison to the mythical meaning of Ouranus. Uranus is the sun of the earth goddess Gaea. And at the same time her husband. The children born out of this relationship were imprisoned but one of them, Cronus (later called Saturn) was able to castrate his father (encouraged by his mother). The genitals fell into the see and so Aphrodite was produced (Venus).

STORY VERY SIMILAR TO ISIS, OSIRIS and HORUS mythology.

Saturn is the mythical son of Uranus. Saturn is the rebel, but Uranus is prominent in the charts of disasters, revolutions and rebellious people. It is Uranus who locks in his children and yet Uranus is the symbol of liberation. I must add to this that afflictions with Uranus are seen at the time of arrest and loosing freedom or being robbed of freedom. Like in the case of Jeanne d’Arc and Ringeard (one of the trappist monks murdered in Algeria). Sometimes Uranus makes free, but the person concerned is dead. Saturn is the law, but Uranus is the shocking arrest. In short: the myths of Saturn and Uranus seem to be twisted and turned. Or we might consider the fact that the relationship Uranus had with his mother was abnormal and extraordinairy and Saturn (Cronus) ended the incest.

URANUS IN THE SIGNS Uranus is now in the astrological ‘sign’ of Pisces. Pisces is the period for church and religion, especially the Christian belief and then specifically the roman catholic church. Uranus is the planet of renewal and weak in the sign of Pisces.

The SATURN's place is the Latium, Lazio in italia, where is founded ROME.

Forza ROMA!!!

zero1

13-08-2008, 06:08 PM

Why is poor old 2Tuff "banned" on his readout? I thought his OP was excellent and very informative...

keenly

13-08-2008, 06:22 PM

Why is poor old 2Tuff "banned" on his readout? I thought his OP was excellent and very informative...

icke followers don't lke the truth

drc_

23-01-2009, 04:17 PM

Weird how the OP is banned now.. What happened?!

Anyway, very interesting stuff, it makes a lot of sense and shows how far this rabbit hole goes.

The symbolism most of us have exposed or read about seems to be just a tip of the iceberg!

Very nice topic! Gonna dig deeper on this one ;)

lightgiver

23-01-2009, 09:50 PM

Yes where as he gone:confused: come back.

eternal_spirit

23-01-2009, 10:33 PM

Yes where as he gone:confused: come back.
He is Craig Oxley Yahweh aka adonai is his God (the angry one in the OT Bible) A hater of catholics, Oxley maybe a Purple arch royal mason linked to the Orange order.

Oxley bases much of his crap on Phelps are mostly disinfo.

Oxley bashes Icke a lot, done a thread saying Icke is a Rockeffeler etc. Prob why he was banned. Icke even replied to him in a newsletter proving Oxley was full of shit and making up nonsense about Icke.

Oxley supports Eric John Phelps (an Israeli blood diamond dealer and biblical Zionist who believes only Jews should be allowed to live in Israel and no other races or religions should be allowed too)

More about 2 tuff aka Oxley here

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47641

lightgiver

25-10-2009, 11:41 PM

He is Craig Oxley Yahweh aka adonai is his God (the angry one in the OT Bible) A hater of catholics, Oxley maybe a Purple arch royal mason linked to the Orange order.

Oxley bases much of his crap on Phelps are mostly disinfo.

Oxley bashes Icke a lot, done a thread saying Icke is a Rockeffeler etc. Prob why he was banned. Icke even replied to him in a newsletter proving Oxley was full of shit and making up nonsense about Icke.

Oxley supports Eric John Phelps (an Israeli blood diamond dealer and biblical Zionist who believes only Jews should be allowed to live in Israel and no other races or religions should be allowed too)

More about 2 tuff aka Oxley here

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47641

Cheers fir that ES,good info none the less,none of us are perfect I suppose;):D

philidor

26-10-2009, 12:16 AM

Don't forget that religions highly subjective: What "God" want's is always decided by Man Himself, Christianity also has nothing original and even gave a false sense of entitlement to kill people:

Laviticus: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"-anonymous barbarian that deserved to be tortured, if time travel was possible I'd locate this piece of shit and put him on the judas cradle, laugh at him and remind him that Rome, Greece, Egypt, and Assyria are far superior civilizations to his idiotic backwater.