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hagbard_celine
20-10-2008, 07:37 PM
Many thanks to Abrilliantone for bring this to the attention of the forum.:cool::)

http://www.geocities.com/athens/Olympus/6581/double_rainbow9.html

We've all heard of monuments on Mars, even the moon, but now Venus!?:eek: This should interest anyone into Hoagland or any similar fields of study. The problem with Venus is that it's atmosphere is so thick and hot that it makes exploration incredibly difficult... Unless this is another lie that they've told us!;)

hagbard_celine
20-10-2008, 07:40 PM
Beldazar: ok.....monuments on venus now? Ah well, why not? What are the possibilities that all the planets have been habitated (is that the right word?) at some time or another, now I think of it, it seems pretty silly that only mars and earth have had populations and of course, people will say that other planets cannot be lived on because of the poisonous atmosphere etc....but for completely different types of life-forms then why not?

It makes me wonder of any other planets have monuments on them!;) Or even more! What about the moons of the outer planets. We should have another look at the Voyager pictures... but let's be discreet, we don't want to forewarn NASA so they go and airbrush them!

haukipesukone
23-10-2008, 08:21 PM
Interesting. If there are ruins on Venus, they're probably older than the ones on Mars.

astro zombie
24-10-2008, 06:22 AM
Interesting. If there are ruins on Venus, they're probably older than the ones on Mars.

Yeah thats i think as well. If Mars used to be alot like Earth in the distant past, then maybe Venus did as well and was habitable for life at some point.

serenevasaline
24-10-2008, 06:38 AM
wowowow

id only just gotten used to the fact there were monuments on mars......now perhaps venus??

very intresting:)

haukipesukone
24-10-2008, 08:16 AM
I had this theory a few years back that human beings are actually extra terrestrial. I don't remember how it went actually...

Something to with do Tiamat colliding with Earth and all that. And I remember reading somewhere that according to some guy dinosaurs couldn't have lived on Earth because the gravity is too high. Maybe the article was here: http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/

Hmm, I think it was something like that a long time ago dinosaurs lived on Earth. Then Tiamat and Earth collided, or was Tiamat separated from Earth. Dinosaurs died, and humans came from Tiamat. Or maybe the Annunaki came from there and then created humans.

I really have to brush up on my alternative pseudo-mythical crack-pot history. I should start writing down my ideas. But it's too difficult. Writing is bound by language, my theories are not merely word based.

Still, maybe I should buy a booklet and start calling it my theory booklet, where I write down any ideas I get and interesting ideas I read about. I know, I'm typing to myself here.

hagbard_celine
24-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Interesting. If there are ruins on Venus, they're probably older than the ones on Mars.


Probably, if you take into account the planet's geography and history. Some even reckon that Venus is not a planet from this solar system and is a visitor from another part of space.

But there's no way of knowing for sure until we get there and investigate the ruins for ourselves. This will be a lot more difficult than going to Mars. On Mars you can get there with a normal spaceship and walk around with a spacesuit, but not on Venus.:eek: The environment on Venus is so hostile that it's like the deeepest parts of the Earth's ocean... and if the ocean was bioling hot!:eek::o

Take a look at the Venera probe, the only craft capable to getting down to the surface of Venus (publically released!;)). It looks like a diving bell! And it had to be heat-shielded and protected from the acidic precipitation on the planet:

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2831/180pxvenera7capsulezn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hagbard_celine
24-10-2008, 02:58 PM
wowowow

id only just gotten used to the fact there were monuments on mars......now perhaps venus??

very intresting:)


I know it's a bit of a shock!:eek::D I wonder if there are artifacts on any other planets. i know they're all gas giants, but what about their moons? They have more moons than the sun has planets! Did Voyager discover anything strange I wonder?

hagbard_celine
24-10-2008, 03:03 PM
I had this theory a few years back that human beings are actually extra terrestrial. I don't remember how it went actually...

Something to with do Tiamat colliding with Earth and all that. And I remember reading somewhere that according to some guy dinosaurs couldn't have lived on Earth because the gravity is too high. Maybe the article was here: http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/

Hmm, I think it was something like that a long time ago dinosaurs lived on Earth. Then Tiamat and Earth collided, or was Tiamat separated from Earth. Dinosaurs died, and humans came from Tiamat. Or maybe the Annunaki came from there and then created humans.

I really have to brush up on my alternative pseudo-mythical crack-pot history. I should start writing down my ideas. But it's too difficult. Writing is bound by language, my theories are not merely word based.

Still, maybe I should buy a booklet and start calling it my theory booklet, where I write down any ideas I get and interesting ideas I read about. I know, I'm typing to myself here.

Good idea!:cool: If you think it's worth it, publish it when you're done.

Personally I think the "crackpot" history is the official version: No Westerners in America before Columbus, Egyptians built the Pyramids without the lever or wheel etc etc:rolleyes:.

The idea that dinosaurs' bodies seem unsuited to Earth gravity is an interesting one and might be related to the Venus enigma. I remember reading that the biggest dinosaurs have such feeble legs that they must have spent most of their time wading in water!:D Of course, what else could the establishment say?

disorder2k8
24-10-2008, 03:09 PM
This is Titan, There are some strange anomalies in this image too I think.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/titan-1.jpg

It looks like a dome in the middle right ?

hagbard_celine
24-10-2008, 03:19 PM
This is Titan, There are some strange anomalies in this image too I think.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/titan-1.jpg

It looks like a dome in the middle right ?


It's hard to tell, but thanks for the photo anyway.:)

Here's a mainstream doc about Titan and the Huygens lander: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4776520981903458720&ei=XtkBSZSBCo-w2AKs-6EK&q=bbc+horizon+titan

disorder2k8
24-10-2008, 03:24 PM
Close up of Venus surface (and a small pinch of atmosphere at the corners)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/venera13_final_unmspsc.jpg



I have some great ones of mars, including the full large pic that had the statue in it, can see what looks like building blocks off to the side, they are arranged into strange shapes too.

hagbard_celine
24-10-2008, 03:41 PM
Close up of Venus surface (and a small pinch of atmosphere at the corners)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa63/Disorder2k7/venera13_final_unmspsc.jpg



I have some great ones of mars, including the full large pic that had the statue in it, can see what looks like building blocks off to the side, they are arranged into strange shapes too.


That's a enthralling picture from Venera!:cool: It's a shame there aren't more. This one is so tantalizing!:(