What happened to Arizona Wilder?

[father ted]

I'm desperate to find out if anyone knows of any new info about Arizona Wilder, since she was so intresting. I've not heard of anything new from her since the Icke interview. That was in 1999, a long time ago. Is she alright?:confused: Is Icke still in contact with her?

[21_12_2012]

I'm desperate to find out if anyone knows of any new info about Arizona Wilder, since she was so intresting. I've not heard of anything new from her since the Icke interview. That was in 1999, a long time ago. Is she alright?:confused: Is Icke still in contact with her?

Good question, would like to know myself. Another interview would be good. Absolutely blew me away that interview did. Mindboggling !

[sweet cheeks]

I'm desperate to find out if anyone knows of any new info about Arizona Wilder, since she was so intresting. I've not heard of anything new from her since the Icke interview. That was in 1999, a long time ago. Is she alright?:confused: Is Icke still in contact with her?

She has a recentish vid on google video -

"Deceived No More" -

http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideopl ay%3Fdocid%3D-2584448896970506255%26q%3DArizona%2BWilder&docid=-2584448896970506255&ev=v&esrc=sr2&usg=AL29H22ncMVIb8P1mFtgUB8y8rZpCfS0IA

[lookfar]

Hi Sweet Cheeks

I watched this a few nights ago and thought it was very good. Although it does bug me when you can't find a date of the actual recording, only the date when it was uploaded.

[21_12_2012]

She has a recentish vid on google video -

"Deceived No More" -

http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideopl ay%3Fdocid%3D-2584448896970506255%26q%3DArizona%2BWilder&docid=-2584448896970506255&ev=v&esrc=sr2&usg=AL29H22ncMVIb8P1mFtgUB8y8rZpCfS0IA


Cheers for that...I will check this out as soon as i get some spare time :)

[sweet cheeks]

Here's another little snipit.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7624898827429107735&q=Arizona+Wilder

[sweet cheeks]

Hi Sweet Cheeks

I watched this a few nights ago and thought it was very good. Although it does bug me when you can't find a date of the actual recording, only the date when it was uploaded.

Hi! Yes, it does make you irk when you know nothing of the dates. :)

[lookfar]

I shouldn't really complain though, I'd be lost without google vid/you tube - they're saving me a fortune & are a wealth of knowledge:)

[sweet cheeks]

I shouldn't really complain though, I'd be lost without google vid/you tube - they're saving me a fortune & are a wealth of knowledge:)

All hail google/youtube! Psssttt...and Torrent sites! :D :D ;)

[21_12_2012]

Here's another little snipit.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7624898827429107735&q=Arizona+Wilder

ooo cheers....so what's your view on Wilder....genuine? I think so.

[sweet cheeks]

ooo cheers....so what's your view on Wilder....genuine? I think so.

Well, lots of folks say that she's disinfo, but she talks about specific things that not anyone would be able to know about....

Also when she describes the rituals that they made her fofill, they sound alot like demon conjuring.

But there are slight differences.

Whether it be a demonic summoning or a reptilian summoning, I believe she was summoning something!

Now, if reptilians are really demons and vice versa, remains to be seen, but I believe that they actually are one in the same, but they use "religion" to control and have their way...

If everything she says is real, it was/is brutal! I suspect she only tells the tip of the iceberg though, as you can see her face and want to lead into telling about participating in "sacrifices".

No wonder people take her for a nutcase, but I have always suspected that these stories that you hear from time to time are REAL. ;)

[father ted]

Thanks so much sweet cheeks! How come we didn't hear about it when it came out?
I love it when I've got new info to divulge on.

[21_12_2012]

Well, lots of folks say that she's disinfo, but she talks about specific things that not anyone would be able to know about....

Also when she describes the rituals that they made her fofill, they sound alot like demon conjuring.

But there are slight differences.

Whether it be a demonic summoning or a reptilian summoning, I believe she was summoning something!

Now, if reptilians are really demons and vice versa, remains to be seen, but I believe that they actually are one in the same, but they use "religion" to control and have their way...

If everything she says is real, it was/is brutal! I suspect she only tells the tip of the iceberg though, as you can see her face and want to lead into telling about participating in "sacrifices".

No wonder people take her for a nutcase, but I have always suspected that these stories that you hear from time to time are REAL. ;)

Very similar thoughts to me...and i will watch those definately tomorrow...:)

[father ted]

sweet cheeks,
the second vid that you posted, on google vid it says that the clip is part of a 3.5 hour talk. That would be good to find, usefull, and it's in good quality.
I've been googling her name and I think that the first vid that you gave was from conspiracy con 2003. I think.

[sweet cheeks]

sweet cheeks,
the second vid that you posted, on google vid it says that the clip is part of a 3.5 hour talk. That would be good to find, usefull, and it's in good quality.
I've been googling her name and I think that the first vid that you gave was from conspiracy con 2003. I think.

Yes, I kept on googling it, but could not find it, maybe if I google "Conspiracy Con 2003"??

Thanks for the tip! :)

[father ted]

That's a good idea.
I googled certain words and came accross a sight which sells vids of her in one of the conspiracy cons:
http://www.conspiracycon.com/order_conspiracycon3.html
It's from conspiracy con 2003.

[21_12_2012]

ooo I watched that first one, the 1 and a half hour one, last night.
Not exactly uplifting stuff is it ! haha ..but, wow, serious information...I don't think anyone else in the world could reveal as much as this woman has.
Well done to her for actually getting her mind back and remembering this stuff....i dread to think of some of the stuff she has seen in her life....i bet it is more shocking than any of us can ever imagine...but i am still glad i watched it anyway.

[father ted]

Well... what did people think of the vid? Don't tell me there's only a few people interested in this, watch it and reply for fucks sake.

[sean~infinte]

she annoys me so fucking depressing yh alright love i kno uve been abused by reptilians from the 4th dimension havent we all

lifes a biatch if i was david sitting in that chair i would of gouged her toungue out her voice annoys me to

i am in noo way a freemason or worse- a reptilian i just hate her

[father ted]

she annoys me so fucking depressing yh alright love i kno uve been abused by reptilians from the 4th dimension havent we all

lifes a biatch if i was david sitting in that chair i would of gouged her toungue out her voice annoys me to

i am in noo way a freemason or worse- a reptilian i just hate her

Why exactly?

[seamus]

I at least get the sense she believes what she is saying. I also believe much if not most/all of it is true. It lines up all too well.

s

[father ted]

I at least get the sense she believes what she is saying. I also believe much if not most/all of it is true. It lines up all too well.

s

That's right, it all lines up. You wouldn't be able to plan and make up what she's saying. The amount of facts in it and the sequence of the way her info came out compared with other peoples' info would be such a coincidence, that it's mathematically impossible. You can't plan to lie like that.
There's no way you can cover your tracks if your lying to that extent.

[lookfar]

That's right, it all lines up. You wouldn't be able to plan and make up what she's saying. The amount of facts in it and the sequence of the way her info came out compared with other peoples' info would be such a coincidence, that it's mathematically impossible. You can't plan to lie like that.
There's no way you can cover your tracks if your lying to that extent.

Hi there. I totally agree with you all. She seems genuine to me & divulges way too much information to leave any doubt. I can't begin to imagine what she's really gone through over the years and think she's only uncovering a small part of it. Brave lady!

[hagbard_celine]

I've seen a recording of her address to the 2001 Global Sciences conference in Denver. She looks very different there; maybe she was using another "alter".

[father ted]

I've seen a recording of her address to the 2001 Global Sciences conference in Denver. She looks very different there; maybe she was using another "alter".

Can we find a link to this? If you can get it, can you upload it to rapidshare or something like that? Please, please:)

[lookfar]

Can we find a link to this? If you can get it, can you upload it to rapidshare or something like that? Please, please:)

Yeah a link to this would be much appreciated if anyone has one :)

[whitelightrabbit]

personally i think wilder is still under mind control. if 'they' are so powerful why would they let her go around yapping about their rituals? they plug her with to disinfo and outlandish tales to distract us. its lies mixed with truth, like alot of things, just to keep us confused.

[sweet cheeks]

personally i think wilder is still under mind control. if 'they' are so powerful why would they let her go around yapping about their rituals? they plug her with to disinfo and outlandish tales to distract us. its lies mixed with truth, like alot of things,just to keep us confused.

And scared....remember they control through fear! ;)

[hagbard_celine]

Can we find a link to this? If you can get it, can you upload it to rapidshare or something like that? Please, please:)

I can't I'm afraid, I don't have it now, but this is the CD-ROM. You can buy it here. It's well worth the price because it has about a dozen or more speeches including Derrel Sims, Brian Desborough and Phil Schneider.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16389&cat=267&page=1

[burkinalovefaso]

I uploaded that 1.5 hr video onto Google, it's from 2003 ordered from Conspiracy Con on VHS. Had to record it via my webcam that's why the quality sucks..

(The other video can be purchased from Radio Alchymy)

Arizona Wilder is the real shit but the planet will only be ready for her after these bloody lizards stop being able to conceal themselves which according to her is supposed to be soon.. THEN people will believe her.

Any radio show host or journalist can book time to interview her by sending a message to the following address:

pinkyadams@aol.com

[sweet cheeks]

I uploaded that 1.5 hr video onto Google, it's from 2003 ordered from Conspiracy Con on VHS. Had to record it via my webcam that's why the quality sucks..

(The other video can be purchased from Radio Alchymy)

Arizona Wilder is the real shit but the planet will only be ready for her after these bloody lizards stop being able to conceal themselves which according to her is supposed to be soon.. THEN people will believe her.

Any radio show host or journalist can book time to interview her by sending a message to the following address:

pinkyadams@aol.com

Can you give the link to the video??:D

[midwich cuckoo]

She is still being mind controlled. Because they know that we know about them, it is no longer denied. Instead we have their mind controlled agents telling us the truth with a few fearful lies added to fool us into doing nothing against them. Basically the same thing they did with UFO's and religion for that matter.

This video is just another form of mind control with a lot of subliminals thrown in.

Why do you think people like this are able to speak out about 'them' with no risk to their own lives ?.

People who tell the truth die in mysterious circumstances which through time become surrounded by conspiracy theories, all made up by 'them'. Do I really need to name them ?. If so then someone needs to do their homework.

RIP HST you 'mad' bastard :)

[sweet cheeks]

Do I really need to name them ?

2 quickly come to mind - William Cooper and Phil Schneider! ;)

[midwich cuckoo]

2 quickly come to mind - William Cooper and Phil Schneider! ;)

Indeed but there are more famous ones. ;)

[sweet cheeks]

Indeed but there are more famous ones. ;)

Well, dont leave us hanging! Spill the beans! :D

[burkinalovefaso]

That's not true, there are plenty of truth-tellers out there who haven't been taken out. What about Eustace Mullins, Kay Griggs, John DeCamp, Daryl Smith, Christopher Bollyn, Eric Hufschmid, Walter Veith, Stan Montech, Fritz Springmeier, Ted Gunderson, Cathy O'brien, Mark Philips, Duncan Ofinion and many many more ??

What proof do you have that Arizona Wilder is under mind control and where are these sibliminal messages? Please help to inform the rest of us

[burkinalovefaso]

Hey SweetCheeks, i meant that i uploaded the video of Arizona Wilder you can view on Google without a date to it:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2584448896970506255&q=arizona+wilder

[sweet cheeks]

Hey SweetCheeks, i meant that i uploaded the video of Arizona Wilder you can view on Google without a date to it:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2584448896970506255&q=arizona+wilder


Thanks, I have already seen that one, but thanks anyway.

Hey! Why is her stuff so few and far between??

I wanna see more of her stuff and wish she would go more in depth!

[burkinalovefaso]

That's what i thought! i remember giving you the link a few weeks ago

[father ted]

It has been reported by Brian Desborough as a witness, that she can indeed attack people with her mind. So can Duncan O'finioan and probably a lot of other mind control slaves who were chosen because of their psychic ability.

In that presentation, Arizona reveals that in order for the Illuminati to not have a psychic turn against them, they keep them in a "delta" state, in one of their mind control alters. Guess what happens if this alter failed, like when a mind control slave wakes up, like Arizona Wilder did? It seems that she is able to consciously control some/all of her psychic abilities, to whatever extent, we don't know. Brian Desborough reported that she used her psychic ability to attack someone who was going after her once. Here's a link:
http://www.whale.to/b/desborough_h.html
although there were other's of brian's site that are now gone.

She has knowledge and power that she has woken up to, and judging by her presentation at 2003 conspiracy con, she knows how to use them.
She also says that the Illuminati are having to work with energy that they don't like to work with, revealing. As someone on this forum suggested, this is why Icke is able to talk about the conspiracy, and probably so is Arizona.

[whitelightrabbit]

i think alot of us can attack people with our minds. thoughts are powerful. i try to keep mine positive.

[midwich cuckoo]

In case you guys have forgotten, JFK was the president of the USA. They killed him in broad daylight in front of hundreds of eye witness'. They really shut him up didn't they!.

How about Martin Luther King, John Lennon, Hunter S Thompson etc, etc?. You see what I'm getting at?.

Why are people like Arizona Wilder, Brian Desborough, Bob Lazar and David Icke not silenced, it's not as if 'they' are going to care about people knowing 'they' did it as we have seen from the above examples.

Do you honestly think that 'they' are going to let people like David Icke on the T.V. if they were telling the 100% truth. And yet the PRESIDENT was killed by 'them' in the manner I described above.

Like I've said before, they know that we know about them and they are playing on it and distorting the facts to suit there own agenda.

I don't think for a minute that people like David Icke are willing participates in fooling us. Therefore I come to the conclusion that they (unwittingly) are mind control victims.

David Icke has even told us about how mind control works. And to think that he hasn't stopped writing and thought to himself, that it could happen to him and that all this theory about infinite love and the matrix has been fed to him by microwaves or whatever, to fool the people who know about 'them' into doing nothing until 2012 or whenever the take over happens, by which time it will have been too late. :(

[b1663r]

In case you guys have forgotten, JFK was the president of the USA. They killed him in broad daylight in front of hundreds of eye witness'. They really shut him up didn't they!.

How about Martin Luther King, John Lennon, Hunter S Thompson etc, etc?. You see what I'm getting at?.

Why are people like Arizona Wilder, Brian Desborough, Bob Lazar and David Icke not silenced, it's not as if 'they' are going to care about people knowing 'they' did it as we have seen from the above examples.

David Icke has even told us about how mind control works. And to think that he hasn't stopped writing and thought to himself, that it could happen to him and that all this theory about infinite love and the matrix has been fed to him by microwaves or whatever, to fool the people who know about 'them' into doing nothing until 2012 or whenever the take over happens, by which time it will have been too late. :(


well their have been a lot of people who were killed or imprissioned for speaking out against the evil bloodlines.... killed well phil schneider who was a geologist in GROOM LAKE aka area 51 was killed a month after his November lecture in 1995 it was supposedly and a suicide but if you do a bit of google ing you will note otherwise.... and fritz springmeier who is a christian ( not that religion matters ) and member of the prophecy club and he was put into jail on false robbery charges... i mean just because you dont know this people and others who stand up against this OLD WORLD ORDER doesnt mean they arent fighting the good fight and such as far as martin luther king and diann and the like you have to look into the ritual means they were killed ( MLK killed at the Lauraine hotel ) which stems back to france and the double cross of Lauraine which is in the symbol of eXXon at any rate the reason they people are killed or not killed is chosen carefully because those events cause reactions and its their job to distract you and place the false hope and their SOLUTION to the table.... just because arizona and david have been keep alive doesnt mean their not targeted or havent already been so and doesnt mean they are speaking the truth or not speaking the truth what im trying to get at is just because their still alive doesnt mean they will be and just because we think their giving us information doesnt mean they are.... keep your eyes and mind open all the time and bob lazar well i always thought they debunked him not that it matters theirs tons of people talking about how they have already reversed engineered alien technology why else would the US have so many DUMB ( deep underground miltiary bases ) and a VAST network of rail trains that connect them all ??? just because it hasnt happen doesnt mean it wont.......

[llogun]

i can remember also that when david first came into all this. He was told by a medium that he would be protected and i think he is. With all this evil thats around he needs it .

[father ted]

That's right, people need to listen properly or not skip a few chapters before they judge these people.

[nutter]

:rolleyes: Well... what did people think of the vid? Don't tell me there's only a few people interested in this, watch it and reply for fucks sake.

looked at both vid's , they both seem to be from her " coming out " period almost ten years ago....would of thought she'd have put pen to paper by now.

[father ted]

It was Arizona's birthday on the 23'rd, I think she's turned 52; watch Devieved NO More (from 2003) again and listen to what she says about what the illuminati had planned for her when she turned 52, but she fucked up their plans, so she's safe.
Happy Birthday Arizona Wilder;)

[seamus]

I saw the "mother goddess" interview with David Icke, and made myself sit through "deceived no more". All I can say is I believe that she believes everything she is saying. I think that perhaps even most of it is "true" in the conventional sense of the word. I still wonder about the shapeshifting stuff. I have seen some outlandish things. It wouldn't be a stretch at all for me to see shapeshifting occur, IYKWIM. I am not the one who shields himself through not-seeing things. I'm still waiting. Personally I think it's evil spirits taking over the people she says are reptiles, which she can see due to her heightened awareness. All IMHO.


s

[hagbard_celine]

Sorry if someone's already mentioned this:

One of Arizona's most strident critics, Ivan Fraser I think, pointed out what he thought was a contradiction in her interview. She seemed to have a great deal of trouble remembering people's names, but then claimed to have a photographic memory. But this is not a contradiction when you take into account her mind-control. She may not have had a photographic memory in all her alters.

[father ted]

With certain studies that scientists and psychologists have conducted, especially with savants, has clearly shown that remembering images has nothing to do with remembering names. There were some people who would hear someone's name, but when shown a picture they didn't know who it was, and visa-versa.
I personally don't think she had trouble remembering names, a lot of these illuminati guys have different names in rituals or to a mind controll slave. Even Arizona had different names, according to her role, like starfire, mother goddess. Other mind controll slaves at the rituals would have only known her by those names. But not even that, she did actually remember a lot of names, some of these names didn't come to her straight away because she only saw them in rituals and I doubt they would have called sitchin and others by their human/real name when performing important rituals.
And like you said, she was under mind controll then, you don't know how well she had recovered by the time of her interview, and plus the fact that they could put her in a delta state, switching off her psychic abilities (including photo memory).
There are sooooo many posibilities, the mind boggles!
Arizona shatters so many beliefs and chalenges peoples ways of thinking, including that of others in this field of conspiracy. Not to mention egos.

[tinmenace]

I watched the interview with David yesterday (more than two hours long), and there was one thing that bothered me, but maybe I misunderstood.

She was talking about Diana, Camilla and Charles, and how Camilla had sacrificed her own child and that is how Arizona knew that Camilla and Charles would be married. But then she said that she was confused about that because she knew that Diana was married to Charles and that they had two children and one on the way.

I didn't know that Diana was pregnant a third time.

[father ted]

I've just watched the global sciences Arizona Wilder presentation and it absolutely blew me away. She explaines that the grays were genetically created from dolphins, because of their scalar phsychic ability. Then most of them were clones.:eek:

[graflok]

Why are people like Arizona Wilder, Brian Desborough, Bob Lazar and David Icke not silenced, it's not as if 'they' are going to care about people knowing 'they' did it as we have seen from the above examples.


I think it's because there's a liability in killing witnesses after they've gone public. The liability is that they then become martyrs and their words then attract greater interest and attention.

For example, Bob Lazar said that when he saw that the government was starting to come after him he knew his only defense was to go public as much and as fast as possible. As soon as he did that he said they backed off and switched their tactics to discredit him.

That seems to be way these black ops boys operate when it comes to stool pigeons. If they can catch the person before they go public, they just kill them. But, if they've already made too much noise about what they know, they try to discredit them and make them look foolish.

There are exceptions, of course. Such as Phil Schneider. But, he was more highly placed and knew far too much to let him live no matter what he'd already said.

And, assassinations like JFK, MLK, John Lennon, etc. I think were done for other reasons. JFK's death was planned before he even took office (according to LBJ's mistress' testimony) and MLK and John Lennon were killed because they were seen as "charismatic leaders" of movements considered dangerous to "the establishment."

That's my take on it anyway. The best defense for those escaping is to talk up a storm and get it video'd and recorded and written down, etc. Because if they kill you after you've made a lot of noise, it will just validate everything you've said.

graflok

[father ted]

I totally agree with your answer graflock, and I would also add that there are spiritual, spirit and "higher law" elements to this, as to why these guys and galls haven't been silenced.

[graflok]

Yes, I find the subject of higher law intriguing. I keep seeing mention of it in relation to all this. It's a major subject in itself.

graflok

[panda2]

she had enough she went to the moon.

[father ted]

she had enough she went to the moon.

Good one, you just bumped the thread!:p;);)

[dyus]

I've just watched the global sciences Arizona Wilder presentation and it absolutely blew me away. She explaines that the grays were genetically created from dolphins, because of their scalar phsychic ability. Then most of them were clones.:eek:

This is very interesting. Do you have the video you could upload for us?

Turns out global sciences have many speeches by Arizona Wilder, and they all have to be paid for 20 dollars, which is very expensive for me because I'm in Brazil and currency exchange is kind of tough. Besides, I'd have to buy a few of them before I knew which one you were talking about.

[father ted]

This is very interesting. Do you have the video you could upload for us?

Turns out global sciences have many speeches by Arizona Wilder, and they all have to be paid for 20 dollars, which is very expensive for me because I'm in Brazil and currency exchange is kind of tough. Besides, I'd have to buy a few of them before I knew which one you were talking about.

I will upload it eventually. I don't think she's getting a cent when you purchase it anyway. Does anyone know if she's still under the controll of the woman known as "pinky"?

[infin8_possibility]

She has a recentish vid on google video -

"Deceived No More" -

http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideopl ay%3Fdocid%3D-2584448896970506255%26q%3DArizona%2BWilder&docid=-2584448896970506255&ev=v&esrc=sr2&usg=AL29H22ncMVIb8P1mFtgUB8y8rZpCfS0IA

That vid has been taken down, anyone have another link to it?

[father ted]

That vid has been taken down, anyone have another link to it?

Arizona Wilder on Government Mind Controlled Slaves, pt 1 - YouTube

Around this time and maybe even now, it seems she's under the controll of a woman who goes by the name "pinky"? Does anyone know anything about this? Swerdlow talked about her in his book, she's manipulating and tries to destroy people's credibility etc and has been said by Swerdlow that she's extreemly dangerous.

A day after the 2001 Global Science conferrence, the organiser of that died under mysterious circumstances although this link is at the 2003 conspiracy con conference.

[father ted]

Here's her at the 2001 Global Sciences:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/10765677/3cef5af3/sharing.html

[xpleet]

Around this time and maybe even now, it seems she's under the controll of a woman who goes by the name "pinky"? Does anyone know anything about this? Swerdlow talked about her in his book, she's manipulating and tries to destroy people's credibility etc and has been said by Swerdlow that she's extreemly dangerous.

No trust to Swerdlow from me side either, a man who pretends to know and bring solutions while going for maximum profit additionally claiming to have illuminati contacts.
Never trust someone right away who claims to be free from his programming as a monarchee.

[dyus]

Here's her at the 2001 Global Sciences:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/10765677/3cef5af3/sharing.html


Yay! :p

Thank you so much for sharing.

I have experience with agents and she seems way too confused at times and genuine for her to be a plant. Agents tend to be very skilled and carry many badges with them to gain people's confidence quickly, even if they are out to misinform they generally use people carrying a variety of credentials to bring relevance to their words, even if those words are disinformation. That's the paradigm they like to use.

When a certain group of people is saying something the agents don't like, the actual agents accuse these people of being infiltration, and those people not being agents usually get very unstable from the attack techniques, and they do end up sounding like lunatics eventually, while the real agents remain the respectable and put together Ph.d.'s, the real infiltration never looks bad. I've seen this a lot in the 911 truth movement. Maybe if the guy was assassinated that adds to her credibility instead of not, I don't know, maybe she is being manipulated for disinformation but it's hard to tell and I certainly doubt it. A lot of what she says makes sense to me.

[father ted]

In Swerdlow's BBTB, he mentions that the woman who got to him also got to Arizona Wilder, not sure if she still is under her influence. That doesn't mean her info isn't true, I think most of her info is genuine and these things happened to her. Also, her info is original, very. I think the woman by the name "pinky" went after people because people like Icke (she went after Icke as well, according to Swerdlow, but he headed Swedlow's warning), Arizona, Swerdlow, Desborough, had info that the illuminati doesn't want to gt out, some of it anyway.

So you see, it's not a black and white issue. Royal Adams, Icke's former publisher whom Icke's suing, ties into this as well I read somewhere, dunno where but it seems like these people are being sought after because they're revealing too much.

[sentient]

She bugs me. Watching that interview with her and Icke was grating to the nerves. She sounds like she's just making shit up as she goes. How do we know she's not controlled still? Perhaps her programming was to go out and speak with truthers to discredit people and spread a conspiracy theory that may or may not even be true (shape-shifting reptilians, for example). I think there may have been reptilians at some point, but when did they become 4th-dimensional? Perhaps the "serpent people" should be taken metaphorically and not literally?

Anyway, Arizona Wilder is a space cadet, and it's very hard for me to take her seriously.

[reggievandam]

;) :D

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/3c/David_Icke_Comic.jpg


:cool:

[hellosatellites]

Well... what did people think of the vid? Don't tell me there's only a few people interested in this, watch it and reply for fucks sake.

i don't believe you are really a vicar, Father Ted :)

Anyway, i was also curious what happened to Arizona, and the other lady, Cathy, after they had been so hyped by David, the seemed to just vanish when mutwa entered the scene.
The whole thing creeps me out i have to say, bad vibes abound and i'm kinda embarassed for david if he got taken for a ride by these colourful ladies. Nothing convinces like conviction...so yeah - they themselves may believe what they are saying.
Going on body language, Arizonas is that of a depressive and she seems to be in a permanent trance, the other one (have only seen her on those youtube vids) seems to be under the thumb of that supposed former fbi guy with the used-car-salesman look, who has a hard time restraining himself from jumping her during 'the interview'. They are clearly intimately involved.

I'll watch the new links provided, and then i'll fucking reply :D

[thelyran]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aptkO-OySPc

Around this time and maybe even now, it seems she's under the controll of a woman who goes by the name "pinky"? Does anyone know anything about this? Swerdlow talked about her in his book, she's manipulating and tries to destroy people's credibility etc and has been said by Swerdlow that she's extreemly dangerous.

A day after the 2001 Global Science conferrence, the organiser of that died under mysterious circumstances although this link is at the 2003 conspiracy con conference.

...this set of videos are the most revealing set she's done,she seemed a little bit hesitant with Icke,can appreciate that,but this series,parts 1-10,were brilliant...

[shenoma]

They went on with their tiny lives living out traditions none questioned the relevance of and was happy when the one thing that had irritated that went missing from the picture. It was peaceful just going along with everyone else, doing what you are told, giving in when ever things never seem to change for the better, complaining about how bad everything is, someone should do something about it but no one never does and it will never change, the world has remain the same and always will, or until it does finally change like anything in nature. If there is no single person to point the finger at then it is the secret Them that is to blame. Who ever is Them, they have never been discovered so far and refuse to take speak up for what They have done to the world.


She is still being mind controlled. Because they know that we know about them, it is no longer denied. Instead we have their mind controlled agents telling us the truth with a few fearful lies added to fool us into doing nothing against them. Basically the same thing they did with UFO's and religion for that matter.

This video is just another form of mind control with a lot of subliminals thrown in.

Why do you think people like this are able to speak out about 'them' with no risk to their own lives ?.

People who tell the truth die in mysterious circumstances which through time become surrounded by conspiracy theories, all made up by 'them'. Do I really need to name them ?. If so then someone needs to do their homework.

RIP HST you 'mad' bastard :)

[gaias child]

I don't believe her the info sounds credible in some ways, but she seems under mind control, she is very monotone.I believe she may have been horribly abused in her past and now believes in this theory , which is why it sounds credible, but I also feel someone has got to her, she spent a lot of time in therapy, and therapists can be responsible for making people believe things happened to them, that didn't.

I believe in Monarch Mkultra mind control and the testimonies of those witnesses though. No doubt about mk ultra existence

[newworldengineer]

I don't believe her the info sounds credible in some ways, but she seems under mind control, she is very monotone.I believe she may have been horribly abused in her past and now believes in this theory , which is why it sounds credible, but I also feel someone has got to her, she spent a lot of time in therapy, and therapists can be responsible for making people believe things happened to them, that didn't.

I believe in Monarch Mkultra mind control and the testimonies of those witnesses though. No doubt about mk ultra existence

Yeah I get the feeling she's in some kind of subtle trance with a very monotone almost unemotional way of expressing herself. I understand that experiencing the soul destroying stuff she may have endured may tip you in the wrong way emotionally, but she did say she wasn't fully out of the mother goddess programme in that icke film didn't she? I forget it's been a long time since I've seen it but I just can't bring myself to watch it again.

I lean towards her still being under mind manipulation.

[zurx]

I always found it strange how she reacted to David's questions. You can audibly hear her take a big gulp everytime he asks something that would probably be a really painful thing to recall.

I've watched the video several times trying to understand her body language, tone of voice, facial expressions, and eyes... I think the jury is still out. I think SHE thinks everything she's saying is accurate. But anytime mind control is involved, you can't trust everything the person is saying - for obvious reasons.

They may have deceived her into thinking she was seeing reptilians, or any number of other things, when she really wasn't. Have you ever seen a stage hypnotist? They can tell you something is something else entirely, and you will remember seeing whatever it was that was suggested. Always keep this in mind.

[christyrapture]

For those that doubt the 4D reptilians.

There is ONE consciousness. It fractured itself in order to refine and express what it is in all matrecies of possibility.

Humans are the center of density. The spectrum is an unconditional love spectrum. All energy is unconditional love/consciousness (hence why you can express free will).

You have a physical body that creates, a mental body that creates, an emotional body that creates, a soul body that creates, and over-soul that creates, a monad up until you reach the unified Godhead.

Each of these bodies is an energy frequency range. The range is decided by the scalar wave. When you look at the electromagnetic spectrum you can see visible light (3D is in the center). To the left are low consciousness frequencies like RF, microwave frequency, infra red... such are the 1D/2D/3D & 4D. 3D & 4D are the central dimensions where all is synthesized. The reson why 4D has these lower energies is b/c we in 3D create them there.

4D is the mind/time dimension. Because we use radio waves, microwave our food and send microwave energies into our heads from the unit in our houses. This is just one aspect. All of the lower frequencies become the lower scalar wave... the lower potential. They are a literal type of consciousness... a consumptive consciousness... just look at the tech industry. Your computer is outmoded the day you bring it home.

Since 3D is the center of density it is a place where much direction occurs. As you think... you create 4D holographic archetypal conscious 4D beings (vortex conciouness). If your thougts are in a consumptive vortex (fear/seperation & all derivatives) then the archetypal beings you create are demons/reptilians (AKA the first [Alpha] independant consciousness formed). If your thoughts are in unconditional love then you create ET/angelic 4D beings... and they are extensions of you... literally.

A mind only has 2 choices... thoughts in unconditional love or fear. One creates duality, the other unity.

The 4D beings are the Masters of the mind, so if you want to become equal you must master your mind. You are either aiding the Illuminati with your thought, or aiding the light.

That new energy they dont like dealing with is scalar waves which come hand in hand with Zero Point Energy (unconditional love). They try to awaken all chakras ans skip the heart... hence the reason why humanity's heart has migrated to the LEFT & is not centered.

We MUST realize ALL things are archetypes for the exchange of energy. All things realte to all.

As soon as humanity begins to monitor each thought and stops ALL thoughts not in unconditional love the reptilians will fade away in a snap.

Emotions are the next thing to be mastered once the mind is.

I must note that in your mind there are always 2 voices. These are your scalar waves f potentiality. The 2 voices can be your ego and personality (tamed ego), personality & soul, soul & over-soul, oversoul & monad.... for our purposes here I will stop there.

Most of humanity is on ego-personality scalar potentials, and within that they listen to the ego in that. Such folks are destined for the Reptilian relm.

All of the stories of hell are this realm (NOTE, not ALL 4D is like this... only the ununified 4D... currently b/c many of humanity are unifying within themselves.) To prove this read "23 Minutes in Hell" by Bill Weise. He thinks God has sent him to hell, but he is in the synthesized 1,2,4D. Reptilian beings are torturing him but he does not die or bleed. He is very weak. They beat him the whole time he self loathes and seperates. As soon as he thinks of his wife and love... they stop. The author is convinced God sent him there and that is is eternal hell, despite the fact he was there for 23 minutes (which to the mind seems like eternity in such a situation b/c the energy is so slow you experience the miliseconds as minutes.) The author also fails to realize that he is only tortured when his thoughts are in a downward spiral & that they only stop when he thinks of unity with another or love, but as soon as he thinks, "but I'll never see my wife again"... back with the beating.

Beyond 4D all dimensions are unified with disresonances only occuring to foster greater growth.

4D is the energetic imprint of 3D... it is the blueprint if you will.

I am leaving out much interdimensional explanation as it is it's own book worth. These truths I have come to from my own studies in quantum, torsion & consciousness physics, chemistry, biology, metaphysics, religion, but mainly from my inner experiences & my becoming aware of my mission state at 2 and again at 7. (Sorry for my spelling, such a linear thing has been difficult for me to synthesize since I cam to Earth.)

Lastly I wanted to add that it is not really adrenachrome that they are after... it is DMT, produced in the pineal gland. You can read "DMT:The Spirit Molecule" & "Inner Journies to Outer Space" by Rick Strassman MD.

Books that will most assuredly help you to understand the dimensions and reptilians w/o ever mentioning them are:

"Conversations with God Books 1-3" by Neale Donald Walsch (These are NOT religious books AT ALL!)

"Celestine Prophecy", "The Tenth Insight" & "Secrets of Shambala" by James Redfield

"Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot

plus the other 3 I mentioned. The 23 Minutes in Hell is hard to read per all the Chistian dogma, but it proves that this force is not just experienced by MK-Victims.

I had come to these realizations before I had ever watched one Arizona Wilder vid. Watching her only solidified my truth. There were even things she was unsure of that I had figured out. This is a very complex puzzle and when you are in it you are very compartmentalized... on ALL levels LOL.

You must take an outside step back to see the Big picture.

Oh... one last thing... who was that guy that gave pinkyadams@aol.com as Arizona's e-mail to be contacted for interviews?!?! Later there are comments saying Pinky was her ruthless controller?

All people have higher selves which can awaken at any time... use unconditional love to create acceptance of this truth.

[pound]

I think it's because there's a liability in killing witnesses after they've gone public. The liability is that they then become martyrs and their words then attract greater interest and attention.

For example, Bob Lazar said that when he saw that the government was starting to come after him he knew his only defense was to go public as much and as fast as possible. As soon as he did that he said they backed off and switched their tactics to discredit him.

That seems to be way these black ops boys operate when it comes to stool pigeons. If they can catch the person before they go public, they just kill them. But, if they've already made too much noise about what they know, they try to discredit them and make them look foolish.

There are exceptions, of course. Such as Phil Schneider. But, he was more highly placed and knew far too much to let him live no matter what he'd already said.

And, assassinations like JFK, MLK, John Lennon, etc. I think were done for other reasons. JFK's death was planned before he even took office (according to LBJ's mistress' testimony) and MLK and John Lennon were killed because they were seen as "charismatic leaders" of movements considered dangerous to "the establishment."

That's my take on it anyway. The best defense for those escaping is to talk up a storm and get it video'd and recorded and written down, etc. Because if they kill you after you've made a lot of noise, it will just validate everything you've said.

graflok


Agreed 100%

I think it's a case of letting sleeping dogs lie.

[camreeno]

Maybe she got too wild. Nevermind, retarded joke.

[freethinker]

what exactly are the Psychic abilities she has

what other Psychics are worth investigating

[marcusbrody]

Does anybody know what happened to Arizona Wilder?

[clikk]

Arizona Wilder was last seen in a chamber under the vatican with 13 other "defectors" 11th dec2010


Arizona Wilder deceased


jo jo the blue goddess knows this to be true.



ClIkk

[venusflytrapgirl]

Watching the Arizona Wilder video. I do not believe that she is a mother goddess; one of only three, and that she has this position because she has the purest blood line. I am so feed-up of reading this conspiracy propaganda. This woman is programmer/handler an evil one at that!

[tait]

http://antinewworldorder.blogspot.com/2011/06/open-missive-from-jennifer-ann-kealey.html

[mayers]

I too would like to know if Arizona Wilder is ok, as I have read in Stewart Swerdlow's book (blue blood true blood),that a very odd woman was going around destroying people that are speaking up about their findings and experiences. Arizona Wilder, David Icke, Royal Adams & Brian Desbourough were mentioned.

Steward Swerdlow said he informed all these people and only Icke responded.

All of the above people Stewart mentioned in his book are linked together. All have worked/been with Icke.
My thinking is Pamela Leigh Richards (Ickes ex wife now) and possible Royal Adams are being very naughty, going around making out they are with good intention, but really making it difficult for them to get venues to share stuff, confusing them and bleeding them dry energetically and finically?

Just wanted to share my thoughts and findings as to the concerns for Arizona Wilder.

[mayers]

I too would like to know if Arizona Wilder is ok, as I have read in Stewart Swerdlow's book (blue blood true blood),that a very odd woman was going around destroying people that are speaking up about their findings and experiences. Arizona Wilder, David Icke, Royal Adams & Brian Desbourough were mentioned.

Steward Swerdlow said he informed all these people and only Icke responded.

All of the above people Stewart mentioned in his book are linked together. All have worked/been with Icke.
My thinking is Pamela Leigh Richards (Ickes ex wife now) and possible Royal Adams are being very naughty, going around making out they are with good intention, but really making it difficult for them to get venues to share stuff, confusing them and bleeding them dry energetically and finically?

Just wanted to share my thoughts and findings as to the concerns for Arizona Wilder.

[space man]

"Pinky" is/was her nickname. On one radio interview, Arizona mentioned to send emails to pinkyadams@...(I can't remember, I think it was aol, I don't think the email is active anymore).

So Pinky was also intercepting email messages meant for Arizona.

[yass]

She appears to be on Facebook. She shares links to whale.to? I reckon that's approval of the job he did writing her up.

Interesting.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Arizona-Wilder/113182278770216


There's a picture there on the page in which her eyes look rather reptilian. I took it to the filters the results being a bit odd. I can't say she is reptilian but there are a lot of anomalous features about her in this image.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7029/arizonawilder.jpg


http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9169/wildercolorburn.jpg


http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/156/wildercooties.jpg


http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/637/azwilder.jpg


http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5616/azwleftshoulder.jpg

[meighen]

The Arizona Wilder FB page is a fan club page. It has nothingl to do with Jennifer. She didn't know it existed until I brought it to her attention.

[space man]

The Arizona Wilder FB page is a fan club page. It has nothingl to do with Jennifer. She didn't know it existed until I brought it to her attention.

So what's she up to now days?

[meighen]

You can find out what's happened in her life in the past few years on this site:

http://antinewworldorder.blogspot.ca/

[blind seance]

The closest youll get to a w is a poster by the name of "esoteric kitten". She runs a blog and has done videos.
Also there is a site that runs with these theorys of mind control and brain washing under " http://intheknow7.wordpress.com/".

[librarabbit63]

I watched the Arizona Wilder interview with David Icke and a few things did not seem quite right to me.

Firstly that voice of hers. It is so annoying, monotone American drawl.

Secondly - she appears to be saying exactly what David Icke wants her to say. Was she the source of Icke's material?

Thirdly - the detail seems a bit odd - mind controlled ..Mmmm so what David did not ask her was how she went about her normal life. I mean one minute you are assisting in a Satanic ritual - with the reptilian form appearing plus creatures from another dimension and the next you are down the shop buying a loaf of bread?

Fourthly - her parents - were they complicit in all of this or did they never find ask where she went to on a Saturday night at age 8? or whatever?

Fifthly - it all seems a bit too convenient - Icke's reptilian stuff and then you have an "insider" spilling the beans exactly as David Icke would have liked.

And then you have her appearing in public talking about mind control - naming names etc...was any of this ever investigated?

I have no problem with David Icke joining the dots but dragging this woman out just doesn't feel right - a bit smoke and mirrors and not enough credible detail - However, had she mentioned Jimmy Savile with Prince Charles, then that would have been interesting..!

This is a v old thread but you never know, someone out there might be in a position to shed some light on this?

Was there only Arizona Wilder with this story or did others corroborate her claims?

LR63