What happened to Arizona Wilder?

[father ted]

I'm desperate to find out if anyone knows of any new info about Arizona Wilder, since she was so intresting. I've not heard of anything new from her since the Icke interview. That was in 1999, a long time ago. Is she alright?:confused: Is Icke still in contact with her?

[21_12_2012]

I'm desperate to find out if anyone knows of any new info about Arizona Wilder, since she was so intresting. I've not heard of anything new from her since the Icke interview. That was in 1999, a long time ago. Is she alright?:confused: Is Icke still in contact with her?

Good question, would like to know myself. Another interview would be good. Absolutely blew me away that interview did. Mindboggling !

[sweet cheeks]

I'm desperate to find out if anyone knows of any new info about Arizona Wilder, since she was so intresting. I've not heard of anything new from her since the Icke interview. That was in 1999, a long time ago. Is she alright?:confused: Is Icke still in contact with her?

She has a recentish vid on google video -

"Deceived No More" -

http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideopl ay%3Fdocid%3D-2584448896970506255%26q%3DArizona%2BWilder&docid=-2584448896970506255&ev=v&esrc=sr2&usg=AL29H22ncMVIb8P1mFtgUB8y8rZpCfS0IA

[lookfar]

Hi Sweet Cheeks

I watched this a few nights ago and thought it was very good. Although it does bug me when you can't find a date of the actual recording, only the date when it was uploaded.

[21_12_2012]

She has a recentish vid on google video -

"Deceived No More" -

http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideopl ay%3Fdocid%3D-2584448896970506255%26q%3DArizona%2BWilder&docid=-2584448896970506255&ev=v&esrc=sr2&usg=AL29H22ncMVIb8P1mFtgUB8y8rZpCfS0IA


Cheers for that...I will check this out as soon as i get some spare time :)

[sweet cheeks]

Here's another little snipit.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7624898827429107735&q=Arizona+Wilder

[sweet cheeks]

Hi Sweet Cheeks

I watched this a few nights ago and thought it was very good. Although it does bug me when you can't find a date of the actual recording, only the date when it was uploaded.

Hi! Yes, it does make you irk when you know nothing of the dates. :)

[lookfar]

I shouldn't really complain though, I'd be lost without google vid/you tube - they're saving me a fortune & are a wealth of knowledge:)

[sweet cheeks]

I shouldn't really complain though, I'd be lost without google vid/you tube - they're saving me a fortune & are a wealth of knowledge:)

All hail google/youtube! Psssttt...and Torrent sites! :D :D ;)

[21_12_2012]

Here's another little snipit.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7624898827429107735&q=Arizona+Wilder

ooo cheers....so what's your view on Wilder....genuine? I think so.

[sweet cheeks]

ooo cheers....so what's your view on Wilder....genuine? I think so.

Well, lots of folks say that she's disinfo, but she talks about specific things that not anyone would be able to know about....

Also when she describes the rituals that they made her fofill, they sound alot like demon conjuring.

But there are slight differences.

Whether it be a demonic summoning or a reptilian summoning, I believe she was summoning something!

Now, if reptilians are really demons and vice versa, remains to be seen, but I believe that they actually are one in the same, but they use "religion" to control and have their way...

If everything she says is real, it was/is brutal! I suspect she only tells the tip of the iceberg though, as you can see her face and want to lead into telling about participating in "sacrifices".

No wonder people take her for a nutcase, but I have always suspected that these stories that you hear from time to time are REAL. ;)

[father ted]

Thanks so much sweet cheeks! How come we didn't hear about it when it came out?
I love it when I've got new info to divulge on.

[21_12_2012]

Well, lots of folks say that she's disinfo, but she talks about specific things that not anyone would be able to know about....

Also when she describes the rituals that they made her fofill, they sound alot like demon conjuring.

But there are slight differences.

Whether it be a demonic summoning or a reptilian summoning, I believe she was summoning something!

Now, if reptilians are really demons and vice versa, remains to be seen, but I believe that they actually are one in the same, but they use "religion" to control and have their way...

If everything she says is real, it was/is brutal! I suspect she only tells the tip of the iceberg though, as you can see her face and want to lead into telling about participating in "sacrifices".

No wonder people take her for a nutcase, but I have always suspected that these stories that you hear from time to time are REAL. ;)

Very similar thoughts to me...and i will watch those definately tomorrow...:)

[father ted]

sweet cheeks,
the second vid that you posted, on google vid it says that the clip is part of a 3.5 hour talk. That would be good to find, usefull, and it's in good quality.
I've been googling her name and I think that the first vid that you gave was from conspiracy con 2003. I think.

[sweet cheeks]

sweet cheeks,
the second vid that you posted, on google vid it says that the clip is part of a 3.5 hour talk. That would be good to find, usefull, and it's in good quality.
I've been googling her name and I think that the first vid that you gave was from conspiracy con 2003. I think.

Yes, I kept on googling it, but could not find it, maybe if I google "Conspiracy Con 2003"??

Thanks for the tip! :)

[father ted]

That's a good idea.
I googled certain words and came accross a sight which sells vids of her in one of the conspiracy cons:
http://www.conspiracycon.com/order_conspiracycon3.html
It's from conspiracy con 2003.

[21_12_2012]

ooo I watched that first one, the 1 and a half hour one, last night.
Not exactly uplifting stuff is it ! haha ..but, wow, serious information...I don't think anyone else in the world could reveal as much as this woman has.
Well done to her for actually getting her mind back and remembering this stuff....i dread to think of some of the stuff she has seen in her life....i bet it is more shocking than any of us can ever imagine...but i am still glad i watched it anyway.

[father ted]

Well... what did people think of the vid? Don't tell me there's only a few people interested in this, watch it and reply for fucks sake.

[sean~infinte]

she annoys me so fucking depressing yh alright love i kno uve been abused by reptilians from the 4th dimension havent we all

lifes a biatch if i was david sitting in that chair i would of gouged her toungue out her voice annoys me to

i am in noo way a freemason or worse- a reptilian i just hate her

[father ted]

she annoys me so fucking depressing yh alright love i kno uve been abused by reptilians from the 4th dimension havent we all

lifes a biatch if i was david sitting in that chair i would of gouged her toungue out her voice annoys me to

i am in noo way a freemason or worse- a reptilian i just hate her

Why exactly?

[seamus]

I at least get the sense she believes what she is saying. I also believe much if not most/all of it is true. It lines up all too well.

s

[father ted]

I at least get the sense she believes what she is saying. I also believe much if not most/all of it is true. It lines up all too well.

s

That's right, it all lines up. You wouldn't be able to plan and make up what she's saying. The amount of facts in it and the sequence of the way her info came out compared with other peoples' info would be such a coincidence, that it's mathematically impossible. You can't plan to lie like that.
There's no way you can cover your tracks if your lying to that extent.

[lookfar]

That's right, it all lines up. You wouldn't be able to plan and make up what she's saying. The amount of facts in it and the sequence of the way her info came out compared with other peoples' info would be such a coincidence, that it's mathematically impossible. You can't plan to lie like that.
There's no way you can cover your tracks if your lying to that extent.

Hi there. I totally agree with you all. She seems genuine to me & divulges way too much information to leave any doubt. I can't begin to imagine what she's really gone through over the years and think she's only uncovering a small part of it. Brave lady!

[hagbard_celine]

I've seen a recording of her address to the 2001 Global Sciences conference in Denver. She looks very different there; maybe she was using another "alter".

[father ted]

I've seen a recording of her address to the 2001 Global Sciences conference in Denver. She looks very different there; maybe she was using another "alter".

Can we find a link to this? If you can get it, can you upload it to rapidshare or something like that? Please, please:)

[lookfar]

Can we find a link to this? If you can get it, can you upload it to rapidshare or something like that? Please, please:)

Yeah a link to this would be much appreciated if anyone has one :)

[whitelightrabbit]

personally i think wilder is still under mind control. if 'they' are so powerful why would they let her go around yapping about their rituals? they plug her with to disinfo and outlandish tales to distract us. its lies mixed with truth, like alot of things, just to keep us confused.

[sweet cheeks]

personally i think wilder is still under mind control. if 'they' are so powerful why would they let her go around yapping about their rituals? they plug her with to disinfo and outlandish tales to distract us. its lies mixed with truth, like alot of things,just to keep us confused.

And scared....remember they control through fear! ;)

[hagbard_celine]

Can we find a link to this? If you can get it, can you upload it to rapidshare or something like that? Please, please:)

I can't I'm afraid, I don't have it now, but this is the CD-ROM. You can buy it here. It's well worth the price because it has about a dozen or more speeches including Derrel Sims, Brian Desborough and Phil Schneider.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16389&cat=267&page=1

[burkinalovefaso]

I uploaded that 1.5 hr video onto Google, it's from 2003 ordered from Conspiracy Con on VHS. Had to record it via my webcam that's why the quality sucks..

(The other video can be purchased from Radio Alchymy)

Arizona Wilder is the real shit but the planet will only be ready for her after these bloody lizards stop being able to conceal themselves which according to her is supposed to be soon.. THEN people will believe her.

Any radio show host or journalist can book time to interview her by sending a message to the following address:

pinkyadams@aol.com

[sweet cheeks]

I uploaded that 1.5 hr video onto Google, it's from 2003 ordered from Conspiracy Con on VHS. Had to record it via my webcam that's why the quality sucks..

(The other video can be purchased from Radio Alchymy)

Arizona Wilder is the real shit but the planet will only be ready for her after these bloody lizards stop being able to conceal themselves which according to her is supposed to be soon.. THEN people will believe her.

Any radio show host or journalist can book time to interview her by sending a message to the following address:

pinkyadams@aol.com

Can you give the link to the video??:D

[midwich cuckoo]

She is still being mind controlled. Because they know that we know about them, it is no longer denied. Instead we have their mind controlled agents telling us the truth with a few fearful lies added to fool us into doing nothing against them. Basically the same thing they did with UFO's and religion for that matter.

This video is just another form of mind control with a lot of subliminals thrown in.

Why do you think people like this are able to speak out about 'them' with no risk to their own lives ?.

People who tell the truth die in mysterious circumstances which through time become surrounded by conspiracy theories, all made up by 'them'. Do I really need to name them ?. If so then someone needs to do their homework.

RIP HST you 'mad' bastard :)

[sweet cheeks]

Do I really need to name them ?

2 quickly come to mind - William Cooper and Phil Schneider! ;)

[midwich cuckoo]

2 quickly come to mind - William Cooper and Phil Schneider! ;)

Indeed but there are more famous ones. ;)

[sweet cheeks]

Indeed but there are more famous ones. ;)

Well, dont leave us hanging! Spill the beans! :D

[burkinalovefaso]

That's not true, there are plenty of truth-tellers out there who haven't been taken out. What about Eustace Mullins, Kay Griggs, John DeCamp, Daryl Smith, Christopher Bollyn, Eric Hufschmid, Walter Veith, Stan Montech, Fritz Springmeier, Ted Gunderson, Cathy O'brien, Mark Philips, Duncan Ofinion and many many more ??

What proof do you have that Arizona Wilder is under mind control and where are these sibliminal messages? Please help to inform the rest of us

[burkinalovefaso]

Hey SweetCheeks, i meant that i uploaded the video of Arizona Wilder you can view on Google without a date to it:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2584448896970506255&q=arizona+wilder

[sweet cheeks]

Hey SweetCheeks, i meant that i uploaded the video of Arizona Wilder you can view on Google without a date to it:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2584448896970506255&q=arizona+wilder


Thanks, I have already seen that one, but thanks anyway.

Hey! Why is her stuff so few and far between??

I wanna see more of her stuff and wish she would go more in depth!

[burkinalovefaso]

That's what i thought! i remember giving you the link a few weeks ago

[father ted]

It has been reported by Brian Desborough as a witness, that she can indeed attack people with her mind. So can Duncan O'finioan and probably a lot of other mind control slaves who were chosen because of their psychic ability.

In that presentation, Arizona reveals that in order for the Illuminati to not have a psychic turn against them, they keep them in a "delta" state, in one of their mind control alters. Guess what happens if this alter failed, like when a mind control slave wakes up, like Arizona Wilder did? It seems that she is able to consciously control some/all of her psychic abilities, to whatever extent, we don't know. Brian Desborough reported that she used her psychic ability to attack someone who was going after her once. Here's a link:
http://www.whale.to/b/desborough_h.html
although there were other's of brian's site that are now gone.

She has knowledge and power that she has woken up to, and judging by her presentation at 2003 conspiracy con, she knows how to use them.
She also says that the Illuminati are having to work with energy that they don't like to work with, revealing. As someone on this forum suggested, this is why Icke is able to talk about the conspiracy, and probably so is Arizona.

[whitelightrabbit]

i think alot of us can attack people with our minds. thoughts are powerful. i try to keep mine positive.

[midwich cuckoo]

In case you guys have forgotten, JFK was the president of the USA. They killed him in broad daylight in front of hundreds of eye witness'. They really shut him up didn't they!.

How about Martin Luther King, John Lennon, Hunter S Thompson etc, etc?. You see what I'm getting at?.

Why are people like Arizona Wilder, Brian Desborough, Bob Lazar and David Icke not silenced, it's not as if 'they' are going to care about people knowing 'they' did it as we have seen from the above examples.

Do you honestly think that 'they' are going to let people like David Icke on the T.V. if they were telling the 100% truth. And yet the PRESIDENT was killed by 'them' in the manner I described above.

Like I've said before, they know that we know about them and they are playing on it and distorting the facts to suit there own agenda.

I don't think for a minute that people like David Icke are willing participates in fooling us. Therefore I come to the conclusion that they (unwittingly) are mind control victims.

David Icke has even told us about how mind control works. And to think that he hasn't stopped writing and thought to himself, that it could happen to him and that all this theory about infinite love and the matrix has been fed to him by microwaves or whatever, to fool the people who know about 'them' into doing nothing until 2012 or whenever the take over happens, by which time it will have been too late. :(

[b1663r]

In case you guys have forgotten, JFK was the president of the USA. They killed him in broad daylight in front of hundreds of eye witness'. They really shut him up didn't they!.

How about Martin Luther King, John Lennon, Hunter S Thompson etc, etc?. You see what I'm getting at?.

Why are people like Arizona Wilder, Brian Desborough, Bob Lazar and David Icke not silenced, it's not as if 'they' are going to care about people knowing 'they' did it as we have seen from the above examples.

David Icke has even told us about how mind control works. And to think that he hasn't stopped writing and thought to himself, that it could happen to him and that all this theory about infinite love and the matrix has been fed to him by microwaves or whatever, to fool the people who know about 'them' into doing nothing until 2012 or whenever the take over happens, by which time it will have been too late. :(


well their have been a lot of people who were killed or imprissioned for speaking out against the evil bloodlines.... killed well phil schneider who was a geologist in GROOM LAKE aka area 51 was killed a month after his November lecture in 1995 it was supposedly and a suicide but if you do a bit of google ing you will note otherwise.... and fritz springmeier who is a christian ( not that religion matters ) and member of the prophecy club and he was put into jail on false robbery charges... i mean just because you dont know this people and others who stand up against this OLD WORLD ORDER doesnt mean they arent fighting the good fight and such as far as martin luther king and diann and the like you have to look into the ritual means they were killed ( MLK killed at the Lauraine hotel ) which stems back to france and the double cross of Lauraine which is in the symbol of eXXon at any rate the reason they people are killed or not killed is chosen carefully because those events cause reactions and its their job to distract you and place the false hope and their SOLUTION to the table.... just because arizona and david have been keep alive doesnt mean their not targeted or havent already been so and doesnt mean they are speaking the truth or not speaking the truth what im trying to get at is just because their still alive doesnt mean they will be and just because we think their giving us information doesnt mean they are.... keep your eyes and mind open all the time and bob lazar well i always thought they debunked him not that it matters theirs tons of people talking about how they have already reversed engineered alien technology why else would the US have so many DUMB ( deep underground miltiary bases ) and a VAST network of rail trains that connect them all ??? just because it hasnt happen doesnt mean it wont.......

[llogun]

i can remember also that when david first came into all this. He was told by a medium that he would be protected and i think he is. With all this evil thats around he needs it .

[father ted]

That's right, people need to listen properly or not skip a few chapters before they judge these people.

[nutter]

:rolleyes: Well... what did people think of the vid? Don't tell me there's only a few people interested in this, watch it and reply for fucks sake.

looked at both vid's , they both seem to be from her " coming out " period almost ten years ago....would of thought she'd have put pen to paper by now.

[father ted]

It was Arizona's birthday on the 23'rd, I think she's turned 52; watch Devieved NO More (from 2003) again and listen to what she says about what the illuminati had planned for her when she turned 52, but she fucked up their plans, so she's safe.
Happy Birthday Arizona Wilder;)

[seamus]

I saw the "mother goddess" interview with David Icke, and made myself sit through "deceived no more". All I can say is I believe that she believes everything she is saying. I think that perhaps even most of it is "true" in the conventional sense of the word. I still wonder about the shapeshifting stuff. I have seen some outlandish things. It wouldn't be a stretch at all for me to see shapeshifting occur, IYKWIM. I am not the one who shields himself through not-seeing things. I'm still waiting. Personally I think it's evil spirits taking over the people she says are reptiles, which she can see due to her heightened awareness. All IMHO.


s

[hagbard_celine]

Sorry if someone's already mentioned this:

One of Arizona's most strident critics, Ivan Fraser I think, pointed out what he thought was a contradiction in her interview. She seemed to have a great deal of trouble remembering people's names, but then claimed to have a photographic memory. But this is not a contradiction when you take into account her mind-control. She may not have had a photographic memory in all her alters.

[father ted]

With certain studies that scientists and psychologists have conducted, especially with savants, has clearly shown that remembering images has nothing to do with remembering names. There were some people who would hear someone's name, but when shown a picture they didn't know who it was, and visa-versa.
I personally don't think she had trouble remembering names, a lot of these illuminati guys have different names in rituals or to a mind controll slave. Even Arizona had different names, according to her role, like starfire, mother goddess. Other mind controll slaves at the rituals would have only known her by those names. But not even that, she did actually remember a lot of names, some of these names didn't come to her straight away because she only saw them in rituals and I doubt they would have called sitchin and others by their human/real name when performing important rituals.
And like you said, she was under mind controll then, you don't know how well she had recovered by the time of her interview, and plus the fact that they could put her in a delta state, switching off her psychic abilities (including photo memory).
There are sooooo many posibilities, the mind boggles!
Arizona shatters so many beliefs and chalenges peoples ways of thinking, including that of others in this field of conspiracy. Not to mention egos.

[tinmenace]

I watched the interview with David yesterday (more than two hours long), and there was one thing that bothered me, but maybe I misunderstood.

She was talking about Diana, Camilla and Charles, and how Camilla had sacrificed her own child and that is how Arizona knew that Camilla and Charles would be married. But then she said that she was confused about that because she knew that Diana was married to Charles and that they had two children and one on the way.

I didn't know that Diana was pregnant a third time.

[father ted]

I've just watched the global sciences Arizona Wilder presentation and it absolutely blew me away. She explaines that the grays were genetically created from dolphins, because of their scalar phsychic ability. Then most of them were clones.:eek:

[graflok]

Why are people like Arizona Wilder, Brian Desborough, Bob Lazar and David Icke not silenced, it's not as if 'they' are going to care about people knowing 'they' did it as we have seen from the above examples.


I think it's because there's a liability in killing witnesses after they've gone public. The liability is that they then become martyrs and their words then attract greater interest and attention.

For example, Bob Lazar said that when he saw that the government was starting to come after him he knew his only defense was to go public as much and as fast as possible. As soon as he did that he said they backed off and switched their tactics to discredit him.

That seems to be way these black ops boys operate when it comes to stool pigeons. If they can catch the person before they go public, they just kill them. But, if they've already made too much noise about what they know, they try to discredit them and make them look foolish.

There are exceptions, of course. Such as Phil Schneider. But, he was more highly placed and knew far too much to let him live no matter what he'd already said.

And, assassinations like JFK, MLK, John Lennon, etc. I think were done for other reasons. JFK's death was planned before he even took office (according to LBJ's mistress' testimony) and MLK and John Lennon were killed because they were seen as "charismatic leaders" of movements considered dangerous to "the establishment."

That's my take on it anyway. The best defense for those escaping is to talk up a storm and get it video'd and recorded and written down, etc. Because if they kill you after you've made a lot of noise, it will just validate everything you've said.

graflok

[father ted]

I totally agree with your answer graflock, and I would also add that there are spiritual, spirit and "higher law" elements to this, as to why these guys and galls haven't been silenced.

[graflok]

Yes, I find the subject of higher law intriguing. I keep seeing mention of it in relation to all this. It's a major subject in itself.

graflok

[panda2]

she had enough she went to the moon.

[father ted]

she had enough she went to the moon.

Good one, you just bumped the thread!:p;);)

[dyus]

I've just watched the global sciences Arizona Wilder presentation and it absolutely blew me away. She explaines that the grays were genetically created from dolphins, because of their scalar phsychic ability. Then most of them were clones.:eek:

This is very interesting. Do you have the video you could upload for us?

Turns out global sciences have many speeches by Arizona Wilder, and they all have to be paid for 20 dollars, which is very expensive for me because I'm in Brazil and currency exchange is kind of tough. Besides, I'd have to buy a few of them before I knew which one you were talking about.

[father ted]

This is very interesting. Do you have the video you could upload for us?

Turns out global sciences have many speeches by Arizona Wilder, and they all have to be paid for 20 dollars, which is very expensive for me because I'm in Brazil and currency exchange is kind of tough. Besides, I'd have to buy a few of them before I knew which one you were talking about.

I will upload it eventually. I don't think she's getting a cent when you purchase it anyway. Does anyone know if she's still under the controll of the woman known as "pinky"?

[infin8_possibility]

She has a recentish vid on google video -

"Deceived No More" -

http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideopl ay%3Fdocid%3D-2584448896970506255%26q%3DArizona%2BWilder&docid=-2584448896970506255&ev=v&esrc=sr2&usg=AL29H22ncMVIb8P1mFtgUB8y8rZpCfS0IA

That vid has been taken down, anyone have another link to it?

[father ted]

That vid has been taken down, anyone have another link to it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aptkO-OySPc

Around this time and maybe even now, it seems she's under the controll of a woman who goes by the name "pinky"? Does anyone know anything about this? Swerdlow talked about her in his book, she's manipulating and tries to destroy people's credibility etc and has been said by Swerdlow that she's extreemly dangerous.

A day after the 2001 Global Science conferrence, the organiser of that died under mysterious circumstances although this link is at the 2003 conspiracy con conference.

[father ted]

Here's her at the 2001 Global Sciences:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/10765677/3cef5af3/sharing.html

[xpleet]

Around this time and maybe even now, it seems she's under the controll of a woman who goes by the name "pinky"? Does anyone know anything about this? Swerdlow talked about her in his book, she's manipulating and tries to destroy people's credibility etc and has been said by Swerdlow that she's extreemly dangerous.

No trust to Swerdlow from me side either, a man who pretends to know and bring solutions while going for maximum profit additionally claiming to have illuminati contacts.
Never trust someone right away who claims to be free from his programming as a monarchee.

[dyus]

Here's her at the 2001 Global Sciences:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/10765677/3cef5af3/sharing.html


Yay! :p

Thank you so much for sharing.

I have experience with agents and she seems way too confused at times and genuine for her to be a plant. Agents tend to be very skilled and carry many badges with them to gain people's confidence quickly, even if they are out to misinform they generally use people carrying a variety of credentials to bring relevance to their words, even if those words are disinformation. That's the paradigm they like to use.

When a certain group of people is saying something the agents don't like, the actual agents accuse these people of being infiltration, and those people not being agents usually get very unstable from the attack techniques, and they do end up sounding like lunatics eventually, while the real agents remain the respectable and put together Ph.d.'s, the real infiltration never looks bad. I've seen this a lot in the 911 truth movement. Maybe if the guy was assassinated that adds to her credibility instead of not, I don't know, maybe she is being manipulated for disinformation but it's hard to tell and I certainly doubt it. A lot of what she says makes sense to me.

[father ted]

In Swerdlow's BBTB, he mentions that the woman who got to him also got to Arizona Wilder, not sure if she still is under her influence. That doesn't mean her info isn't true, I think most of her info is genuine and these things happened to her. Also, her info is original, very. I think the woman by the name "pinky" went after people because people like Icke (she went after Icke as well, according to Swerdlow, but he headed Swedlow's warning), Arizona, Swerdlow, Desborough, had info that the illuminati doesn't want to gt out, some of it anyway.

So you see, it's not a black and white issue. Royal Adams, Icke's former publisher whom Icke's suing, ties into this as well I read somewhere, dunno where but it seems like these people are being sought after because they're revealing too much.

[sentient]

She bugs me. Watching that interview with her and Icke was grating to the nerves. She sounds like she's just making shit up as she goes. How do we know she's not controlled still? Perhaps her programming was to go out and speak with truthers to discredit people and spread a conspiracy theory that may or may not even be true (shape-shifting reptilians, for example). I think there may have been reptilians at some point, but when did they become 4th-dimensional? Perhaps the "serpent people" should be taken metaphorically and not literally?

Anyway, Arizona Wilder is a space cadet, and it's very hard for me to take her seriously.

[reggievandam]

;) :D

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/3c/David_Icke_Comic.jpg


:cool:

[hellosatellites]

Well... what did people think of the vid? Don't tell me there's only a few people interested in this, watch it and reply for fucks sake.

i don't believe you are really a vicar, Father Ted :)

Anyway, i was also curious what happened to Arizona, and the other lady, Cathy, after they had been so hyped by David, the seemed to just vanish when mutwa entered the scene.
The whole thing creeps me out i have to say, bad vibes abound and i'm kinda embarassed for david if he got taken for a ride by these colourful ladies. Nothing convinces like conviction...so yeah - they themselves may believe what they are saying.
Going on body language, Arizonas is that of a depressive and she seems to be in a permanent trance, the other one (have only seen her on those youtube vids) seems to be under the thumb of that supposed former fbi guy with the used-car-salesman look, who has a hard time restraining himself from jumping her during 'the interview'. They are clearly intimately involved.

I'll watch the new links provided, and then i'll fucking reply :D

[thelyran]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aptkO-OySPc

Around this time and maybe even now, it seems she's under the controll of a woman who goes by the name "pinky"? Does anyone know anything about this? Swerdlow talked about her in his book, she's manipulating and tries to destroy people's credibility etc and has been said by Swerdlow that she's extreemly dangerous.

A day after the 2001 Global Science conferrence, the organiser of that died under mysterious circumstances although this link is at the 2003 conspiracy con conference.

...this set of videos are the most revealing set she's done,she seemed a little bit hesitant with Icke,can appreciate that,but this series,parts 1-10,were brilliant...

[shenoma]

They went on with their tiny lives living out traditions none questioned the relevance of and was happy when the one thing that had irritated that went missing from the picture. It was peaceful just going along with everyone else, doing what you are told, giving in when ever things never seem to change for the better, complaining about how bad everything is, someone should do something about it but no one never does and it will never change, the world has remain the same and always will, or until it does finally change like anything in nature. If there is no single person to point the finger at then it is the secret Them that is to blame. Who ever is Them, they have never been discovered so far and refuse to take speak up for what They have done to the world.


She is still being mind controlled. Because they know that we know about them, it is no longer denied. Instead we have their mind controlled agents telling us the truth with a few fearful lies added to fool us into doing nothing against them. Basically the same thing they did with UFO's and religion for that matter.

This video is just another form of mind control with a lot of subliminals thrown in.

Why do you think people like this are able to speak out about 'them' with no risk to their own lives ?.

People who tell the truth die in mysterious circumstances which through time become surrounded by conspiracy theories, all made up by 'them'. Do I really need to name them ?. If so then someone needs to do their homework.

RIP HST you 'mad' bastard :)