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hagbard_celine
14-05-2007, 03:32 PM
Scientology seems to cause enragement among people who would otherwise seem calm. Even seasoned reporters like John Sweeney. See this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxqR5NPhtLI

The whole programme will be shown tonight on BBC1 at 8.30pm. We;ll find out then. One thing's for sure, his outburst will raise the viewing figures and the BBC are good at that!

mada88
14-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Scientology seems to cause enragement among people who would otherwise seem calm. Even seasoned reporters like John Sweeney. See this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxqR5NPhtLI

The whole programme will be shown tonight on BBC1 at 8.30pm. We;ll find out then. One thing's for sure, his outburst will raise the viewing figures and the BBC are good at that!

lol yeah its just a publicity stunt. On the radio they where like "its so shocking" when are people going to grow up and be adults? what is an adult? where do I find these adults? lol

markdiegutis
14-05-2007, 11:18 PM
The Symbolism in scientology is interesting. Why do they have a crucifix (not a cross a crucifix) with a sun in the middle.


http://www.theoldpath.com/scient3.gif


Also another symbol they use frequently is nothing more than a pyramid with a capstone

http://www.theoldpath.com/scient1.jpg

hagbard_celine
14-05-2007, 11:22 PM
Well now I've heard one side of the story. If I believed everything the BBC told me I'd be very anti-scientology by now. I've heard the case for the prosecution, now to look at the defence.

One thing the scientilogists say that accords with me is their attitude to psychology. I may not share their entire assessment, but I too am very dubious about shrinks.

That E-meter looks and sounds familiar. Have any of you read "The Mars Records"? It sounds very like the device that Stephanie Relphe uses when interviewing her husband:

http://themarsrecords.com/

james777
16-05-2007, 08:47 AM
Scientolgy was started by a man who used to write sci-fi scripts. How credible is it really??

andreadoria
16-05-2007, 01:25 PM
I'm not a scientologist, but i'm used to do auditing many friends that needed of an help. They all thank me now. The technology it works, but i don't believe in the church.

andreadoria
16-05-2007, 01:28 PM
the journalist is talking about the "BRAINWASHING" that scientology does on their followers, but he doesn't talk about the "BRAINWASHING" that BBC does on a vast scale every second, every minute and hour every single day. baah...

andreadoria
16-05-2007, 01:36 PM
The Symbolism in scientology is interesting. Why do they have a crucifix (not a cross a crucifix) with a sun in the middle.


http://www.theoldpath.com/scient3.gif


Also another symbol they use frequently is nothing more than a pyramid with a capstone

http://www.theoldpath.com/scient1.jpg

yes they are interesting indeed, but please notice that the pyramid isn't "only" a symbol of the Illuminati crap. It's a very positive symbol also. I think there's a bit of confusion on this topic.

tinmenace
16-05-2007, 01:37 PM
the journalist is talking about the "BRAINWASHING" that scientology does on their followers, but he doesn't talk about the "BRAINWASHING" that BBC does on a vast scale every second, every minute and hour every single day. baah...

Bravo! Well said.

hagbard_celine
16-05-2007, 02:27 PM
Scientolgy was started by a man who used to write sci-fi scripts. How credible is it really??


He was part of the Crowley network too. Not that that's all bad, but Jack Parsons was in it and with the power he had Hubbard must have felt a big temptation to abuse it.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
16-05-2007, 02:50 PM
meh

eternal_spirit
17-05-2007, 11:32 AM
Well now, show me the positive points, I can't see any. Scientology is based on Freemasonry wake up ! Polly want a cracker? I feel like a parrot at times Hubbard was a Mason and a cousin of Crowley= Parsons(NASA MISSILES) (OTO)Church of Satan (La Vey) Temple of Set( Aquino)= The Process church= Manson= Hollywood(Tom Cruis just a coincedence TOP GUN glorifying death and destruction MISSILES back to Parsons and Hubbard) and the Elite rich Illuminati etc etc it's all connected.

It's the same as any other cult or masonry....They wan't part of you're income, then as you progress up the ladder in Scientology they sell you books(containing the so called hidden knowledge) The more money you have the more books you can buy and the higher up the shit pile you go. It's a con!

I imagine there are many scientists geneticists etc working for the Illuminati elite that are Scientologists.

james777
18-05-2007, 06:50 AM
ya, I'm pretty much like, "Fuck scientology"! I sure don't trust the the basis in-which it was created, nor the company it attracts. It's just another way for them to feed us sensless bullshit on how 'we' can control our own destiny and how 'we' can become gods ourselves......while they sit here and rip the rug out from under our feet. We need to get off of our 'self-rightous' bullshit and realize that the war for our eternal destiny is being lost while they manipulate and control our every move and every step........turn-off your tv's, put down the newspapers.....tune into your inner-self, your peaceful soul and that will be the beginning of finding truth.

aznality
19-05-2007, 12:21 PM
To me, scientology is just another front for the Illuminati. While they may have a few things that are based on truth, the rest is disinformation.

eternal_spirit
24-05-2007, 11:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9bCdHqU3s&mode=related&search=

A reporter poses as a new recruit into Scientology with a hidden camera, also X members speak out and tell their story.

eternal_spirit
25-05-2007, 12:28 AM
John Sweeney is the coolest :D and a very brave man if you watch this video it's the events leading up to where he looses his cool in the interview and has a rant of momentos proportions and rightly so, he's a real truth seeker. The Scientologits intimidate and follow him all this takes place before he shouts back at them.

Note the eyes of the Scientologist very dark and spooky I'm sure you'll agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwTDvfjcUJU&mode=related&search=

eternal_spirit
25-05-2007, 01:24 AM
This video is the icing on the cake really shows that Scientology is brainwashing mind controlling Cult! Anyone here who is a seeker of truth should watch. Part 3 with John Sweeney and more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2_Ok0ypTTY&mode=related&search=

Below are some comments by the viewers on You Tube.

(H T T P)petitions(dot)pm(dot)gov(dot)uk(backslash)-Scientology

An e-petition to Tony Blair--submitted by James Higgs--is currently posted on the 10 Downing Street website. It is asking the British Prime Minister to prevent Scientology from becoming accepted as a religion in the UK. This is not a joke; it is an organized appeal that should be taken seriously. ONLY BRITISH CITIZENS OR RESIDENTS MAY SIGN THE PETITION. Pass on the link to all your British friends and family members.

If you send Leah Remini fan mail, she sends you Scientology literature. Nooo, no cult there.



go to lermanet(dot)com and click on the link in the top of the middle block.
there you'll see a guideline laid out by Hubbard on handleing media... tommy followed that to the letter.
it's all about attacking the reporter until they make a mistake.


have scrolled across comments by some people about a site called "bbcpanorama-exposed . org",
Not surprisingly part of "Church of Scientology International. All Rights Reserved".

If John Sweeneys investgative journalism is claimed as one sided, how about "panorama exposed"
Which looked more like propaganda pulp piece for the church of scientology than an actual investigation.


Go sweeney. You didnt lose focus at all. You rock and i would have killed everyone in the room after day 2.

love it how when Sweeney starts to shout Tommy immediately does the same but not as loud. clearly trying to mirror/echo whatever in an effort to provoke an emotional not a rational response. I would have punched the fukker

You won't see any sefenders of the "Church" here they have to install filtering software so they cant see this clip or anything else the "church" dosen't want them to see....I miss Chef


oh and did anyone notice how you cant post comments on the scientology counter of this bbc doc. their a bunch of creeps. thats why they recruit and blackmail celebs and people of power....so they can try to control the movements of everyone under them.....everyone grow a sac and lets find out everything about them....lets sneak private lives and show them who has the hanggun....sorry for my last comment being all wack...bad comp skills

As an American, I just want to say that John Sweeney is my new hero. After what COS did to the Cult Awareness Network, it's hard to find anybody willing to take them on. After what COS put Sweeney through, it's no wonder the poor man lost his temper. I don't blame him one bit. I had friends and relatives who were involved in this stuff right around the time they changed from a harmless scam into something dark and dangerous. Luckily, they got out.

I rest my case........ Eternal.

eternal_spirit
25-05-2007, 01:29 AM
More comments from You Tube viewers

John Sweeney should be fired. Period. He was pretending to be kicked out of buildling. Reporters report.  They don't make up stories. Scientology will continue to grow despite the hate and ignorance of some people. The BBC needs to issue an apology.

Are you a fucking idiot? Are you blind? those CULT bastards at ever chance got in his face! they followed him, Tryed to get him to blow up. I am amazed it took he so long to blow up, Don't talk outta ass about shit you have no idea. I bet you are one of the suckers in thier cult, Dont cry when you pay 35000 for OT III Story, Xenu, brainwash alien soul, h bomb, etc, Pile of bollox,

Tommi Davis keeps attacking him and got the result he wanted, HE is EVIL LIKE THE CULT.

DEATH TO $ceintology

sweeney apologized for his outburst in the video. He is 100 times more the man than nutcase tommy with his psycho babble. btw, I notice you joined may 17 just to try to defend your so-called 'church' of scienkultogy.

In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland $cien£ology is recognised neither as a church nor a charity. It is, in fact a cult. $cien£ologists do not like that word, so let me repeat it -- CULT.

eternal_spirit
25-05-2007, 02:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y&mode=related&search=

If the Eyes are the window to the soul. Check out these real spooky dudes eyes. Scarey and I'm no wuss.

eternal_spirit
25-05-2007, 02:37 AM
This is the last video I'm posting. Lot's of them on You Tube. This is what happens to people who try and leave the Cult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCGP-0545EU&mode=related&search=

eternal_spirit
25-05-2007, 04:02 PM
hope I've woken anyone up who was sleeping and believing the lies any scientologists reading and watching, get out of that sick cult if you can good luck.

tru3
26-05-2007, 06:23 AM
Well now I've heard one side of the story. If I believed everything the BBC told me I'd be very anti-scientology by now. I've heard the case for the prosecution, now to look at the defence.

One thing the scientilogists say that accords with me is their attitude to psychology. I may not share their entire assessment, but I too am very dubious about shrinks.

That E-meter looks and sounds familiar. Have any of you read "The Mars Records"? It sounds very like the device that Stephanie Relphe uses when interviewing her husband:

http://themarsrecords.com/

i got halfway through dianetics, then threw it in the garbage.

these engrams he speaks of are real, although i don't agree with lrh as to the origins, some kind of species of interdimensionals (that didn't come along until much later).

engrams can be diffused. emotional kinesiology (3 in 1) works, ime. what lrh is doing is not merely diffusing, but most likely INfusing something, although i can't say exactly what.

and there would be a side benefit; the appeal for actors, i would think (and i have hung out and worked with actors and theater folk for 10 years) would really being in the present moment as an actor, which diffusion would promote, but at a terrible price. it's a very seductive glamour. :(

as miles davis said to louis armstrong, "ain't you dead yet, old man?"

eternal_spirit
26-05-2007, 09:03 AM
Wow threw it in the bin tru3 best place or on the fire.

Hubbard was Crowley's cousin, the association between these two crops up in other posts. In Scientology the higher grade(levels) are known as OT2 which is short for Opertaing Thetans sound familiar to crowley's OTO.. hmm.

They believe we have negative alien spirits, souls inside all humans. They condem all other Religions, sounds to me like Satanism rehashed..... Books with rules and rituals.

Each member has to put their hands on a lie detector machine which is two silver bars held in each hand connected to the lie dector machine, a high initiate asks many perverse questions Like have you ever had sex with you're family, animals and all manner of sick stuff. have you had any bad thoughts about Hubbard? geez! This is a regular occurance and is done from time to time.

They black mail each other by getting confessions of past sins and keep records of everything they've done wrong, so if anyone speaks out against the Cult the information is made public knowlege, Hubbard himself spent time in Prison for stealing 4million from the church, his wife was also convicted for taking documents and files on people from Government offices.

Theres so much more to this, they have their own propaganda against the BBC some say Scientolgists with them being everywhere these days have allready infiltrated most big organisations and have their propaganda agents working for the BBC.

eternal_spirit
26-05-2007, 09:15 AM
The Symbolism in scientology is interesting. Why do they have a crucifix (not a cross a crucifix) with a sun in the middle.


http://www.theoldpath.com/scient3.gif


Also another symbol they use frequently is nothing more than a pyramid with a capstone

http://www.theoldpath.com/scient1.jpg

With a snake crawling through it.

eternal_spirit
26-05-2007, 09:19 AM
the journalist is talking about the "BRAINWASHING" that scientology does on their followers, but he doesn't talk about the "BRAINWASHING" that BBC does on a vast scale every second, every minute and hour every single day. baah...

I don't watch TV.... or follow any religion or cult. Over the years the BBC and other Tv stations have exposed many organisations such as Scientology for what they really are BRAINWASHING MIND CONTROLLING CULTS.

eternal_spirit
26-05-2007, 09:26 AM
One thing the scientilogists say that accords with me is their attitude to psychology. I may not share their entire assessment, but I too am very dubious about shrinks

Yes I don't like most of what shrinks do. But the Scientologists claim they can do a better job than the shrinks at curing mentall illness, if that's true I have a bottom that looks like Kylie Minogues.

They seem to think that the Nazis are responsible for physcology. Weird seeing as though physcology contains different ideas and came from many different sources.

Are the Scientoligists Zionist jews??? If Hubbard was a Mason wouldn't surprise me.

hagbard_celine
27-05-2007, 12:37 AM
One thing the scientilogists say that accords with me is their attitude to psychology. I may not share their entire assessment, but I too am very dubious about shrinks

Yes I don't like most of what shrinks do. But the Scientologists claim they can do a better job than the shrinks at curing mentall illness, if that's true I have a bottom that looks like Kylie Minogues.

And mine's like J-Lo's!:D

For the most part, Shrinks are a bunch of quacks!

I've had some pretty bad run in's with them throughout my life. Even up to this last year, where I almost lost custody of my kid! It's a long story, but basically they claimed I was crazy, even though their claim was based on lies which I proved in court.

eternal_spirit
27-05-2007, 01:51 AM
Well done haggbard, the shrinks are the crazy ones at times.

markdiegutis
28-05-2007, 02:21 AM
yes they are interesting indeed, but please notice that the pyramid isn't "only" a symbol of the Illuminati crap. It's a very positive symbol also. I think there's a bit of confusion on this topic.

I have not seen any positive instances of this symbol belonging to any MAJOR organisation or religion that cannot be linked back to the freemasons / Illuminati in some way.

gordonfreeman
29-05-2007, 01:42 AM
Something Tom Cruise does on the Couch.

http://daniel360.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/tom%20cruise%20on%20oprah.jpg

eternal_spirit
29-05-2007, 02:20 AM
I seen that Video on you tubes it's nuts, maybe he was programming Opera for the Secret.

adamadam
29-05-2007, 03:48 PM
eternal_spirit,

You are what David calls a "repeater".

eternal_spirit
29-05-2007, 11:06 PM
eternal_spirit,

You are what David calls a "repeater".


adam when you've dome some research and posted some posts It might give me a chance to form an opinion on you.

Really with a name like adamadam you're the repeater. Now if you have nothing to post I suggest you go watch the videos on You Tube if you wan't to know about the issue.

bigus_dickus
03-06-2007, 06:38 AM
the word "scientology" is greek.

the root "sci", hubbard took it from the greek word "schio", "schizzo" which means to split, to divide, to separate. and thus, the word science means to have knowledge by "breaking it down to pieces" in simple terms. this is also the root of the word "schizophrenic". i think i have written this before.. anyway,

if i want to give a synonym meaning for it, i would call it divisionology or splitology.

eternal_spirit
06-06-2007, 06:40 PM
http://bp2.blogger.com/_FdNd4J3qxoM/RboqW-e_P6I/AAAAAAAAAAU/cZyg1JY9jP0/s320/lrh_darker.jpg (http://bp2.blogger.com/_FdNd4J3qxoM/RboqW-e_P6I/AAAAAAAAAAU/cZyg1JY9jP0/s1600-h/lrh_darker.jpg)

The Shrinking World of L. Ron Hubbard : As Mad as a Madman


Hey, I was once fooled but no more. That is my hope for you.

L. Ron Hubbard: As Mad as The Madman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-moX_gduI)

Before you check out this revealing and humorous clip, here's a picture of the man himself whilst he was hiding to avoid extradiction to France for being convicted of fraud in absentia:

http://free-from-scientology.blogspot.com/2007/01/shrinking-world-of-l-ron-hubbard-as-mad.html

eternal_spirit
06-06-2007, 06:41 PM
http://free-from-scientology.blogspot.com/ In depth reports and videos

sgabllab
31-07-2007, 02:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9bCdHqU3s&mode=related&search=

A reporter poses as a new recruit into Scientology with a hidden camera, also X members speak out and tell their story.

i've yet to see anything positive about scientology and
just because tom cruise is doing it, doesnt mean its a positive.

was it coincidence when the woman said when she had to stare into the eyes of the guy for about an hour that she started to hallucinate and when she did she said the guy started to look like some kind of reptile with scaley skin.:confused:

adamadam
01-08-2007, 08:32 AM
One of the basic principles about Scientology is that whilst we locate ourselves in a body we are much more than that. Happiness doesn't just consist of our own personal sucesses - the emotional wellbeing of our families, friends, groups, mankind and others are essential to our own happiness.

Ultimately we are so powerful we can't be trapped unless we agreed to be, or unless we agreed to some limitations which allowed us to be trapped. By viewing these agreements you can undo them and leave the matrix.

synergy777
01-08-2007, 07:32 PM
Ultimately we are so powerful we can't be trapped unless we agreed to be, or unless we agreed to some limitations which allowed us to be trapped. By viewing these agreements you can undo them and leave the matrix.

we are souls having a human experience, i think before we got here we knew this, its when we are here, we forget who we really are. we live in a system that promotes reptile core development, we have all our development skewed, skewed towards to economic survival, not to mental/spiritual/emotional development. people don't have time to grow, as they too busy trying to survive.

adamadam
02-08-2007, 08:44 AM
Right and of course it doesn't have to be like that. It's all caused by some people to the aim of enslavement.

ngawaka19
02-08-2007, 09:15 AM
Scientology seems to cause enragement among people who would otherwise seem calm. Even seasoned reporters like John Sweeney. See this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxqR5NPhtLI

The whole programme will be shown tonight on BBC1 at 8.30pm. We;ll find out then. One thing's for sure, his outburst will raise the viewing figures and the BBC are good at that!


What an egg.

Seriously hilaireous...............I'd say his dad would of been abit of a bully. Poor guy, I bet you he looked at it after and just wished the earth would open up and swallow him. And if he didn't regret that, then, yep, he's an egg.

What is it about science/scientology??

IT IS 'THE NAME THAT CAN BE NAMED', THEREFORE IT, 'IS NOT THE ETERNAL NAME'.

Lao Tsu
backwards

love and light
ngawaka19
one of the do'ers of 10,000 things

ngawaka19
02-08-2007, 09:16 AM
Far friken out. Sory guys I didn't spell check that. Yep......egg comes to mind......LOL