The brick wall of cancer

[llogun]

After getting rid of my symptoms of cancer i decieded to put a advert in my local paper to help people with cancer to make them aware how you can get cancer and how you can get rid of it. I read the advert out to the person to put in the paper and as soon as i said the word cancer he said i cant use the word cancer. I said why, and he said because it would upset to many people. I said your joking . He said no. I told him that was not the reason why i cant use the word cancer. I told him that people are not meant to know the real truth about cancer and that its all about money.

I thought i would try and get some sponsership from some heath shops where i buy my supplements products from that i buy for cancer so i could put a advert in the paper. Its £55 for a advert. When i read there disclamer on the product that they sell the disclamer is nearly a page long i would not stand a chance getting any sponsership from them.

People are so programed by the people at the top its a brick wall to try and get the info out there. I put a advert in my local shop. The response from some of the people that go in the shop were they think im mad and the only way to get rid of cancer is by having chemo radiation and a operation. Thats why every 4 minuets some one dies in this country of cancer.

Well i will keep trying

[deafbred]

my aunt has cancer - she isn't taking chemo or anything like that from 'the doctors' ------ some of her family are trying to convince her to 'take the doctors advice' and use their treatments. She refuses though and is going about her own way to defeat the cancer.

[lookfar]

After getting rid of my symptoms of cancer i decieded to put a advert in my local paper to help people with cancer to make them aware how you can get cancer and how you can get rid of it. I read the advert out to the person to put in the paper and as soon as i said the word cancer he said i cant use the word cancer. I said why, and he said because it would upset to many people. I said your joking . He said no. I told him that was not the reason why i cant use the word cancer. I told him that people are not meant to know the real truth about cancer and that its all about money.

I thought i would try and get some sponsership from some heath shops where i buy my supplements products from that i buy for cancer so i could put a advert in the paper. Its £55 for a advert. When i read there disclamer on the product that they sell the disclamer is nearly a page long i would not stand a chance getting any sponsership from them.

People are so programed by the people at the top its a brick wall to try and get the info out there. I put a advert in my local shop. The response from some of the people that go in the shop were they think im mad and the only way to get rid of cancer is by having chemo radiation and a operation. Thats why every 4 minuets some one dies in this country of cancer.

Well i will keep trying

Hi llogun

I'm so pleased to hear you've managed to rid yourself of this, that's excellent news honey, well done!!:D

Good onya for wanting to share the information with others as well, I hope you get to reach them, despite being blocked by the shops/media etc. Keep trying other means though, word of mouth is always a good way. Please, whatever you do, don't let them stop you getting the info out, I believe there's a huge amount of people who are desperate for alternative ways to beat this rather than the normal radiotherapy/chemo approach.

Is it possible for you to put all the information on a thread here? That would get to reach a good amount of people for a start.

[llogun]

Like you say lookfar i know there are people who need help out there. It drives me mad not being able to contact these people. I wont give up thou and im sure the law of attraction will play a big part in me bumping into these people. I will put down what ive learnt about cancer later tonight

[lookfar]

Like you say lookfar i know there are people who need help out there. It drives me mad not being able to contact these people. I wont give up thou and im sure the law of attraction will play a big part in me bumping into these people. I will put down what ive learnt about cancer later tonight

Great stuff llogun, I'm sure the people who need it most will appear in your life (or you theres) at just the right time. Thanks, your info will reach a huge amount of people if you post if on here too...:)

[llogun]

QUOTE=lookfar;537595]Great stuff llogun, I'm sure the people who need it most will appear in your life (or you theres) at just the right time. Thanks, your info will reach a huge amount of people if you post if on here too...:)[/QUOTE]
Well after all the the research i have done on cancer this is what i have found out why we get ill and get cancer. When we are born our body is in a alkaline condition and this is how are body’s are meant to be all the time alkaline. Your body also puts out 3 volts of electricity controlled by the brain and pumped around the body by the heart because your body works on electrical signals. you also have a immune system which is made up of cells organs and tissues. All 3 of these work hand in hand to keeping you healthy. When your body is in this condition you will struggle to get a cold. There’s a lot involved what i am going to say now, infact you could write a book on it so i will keep it basic because im a basic person so dont have a go at me if i have missed some things out.
The main reasons why we get ill is because are body’s have become acidic. There is 3 stages to this, beginning middle and advanced of a acid body. Beginning feeling tired headaches etc middle colds and flu Candia etc advanced cancers arthritis etc. this is just a small few but gives you a idea of how having a acid body works. The more acidic your body is the worse you will be. Now there are many reasons how your body becomes acidic. Most of it is what we put in our mouth.

When i got cancer i started to eat a lot of fish thinking it was good for me and dont get me wrong fish is good for you but not when you have got cancer and trying to get rid of cancer your self. The reason, it is very acidic. in fact once i started looking at food i couldn’t believe what food was acidic and alkaline. Apart from most fruit and veg which is alkaline everything els is acidic. There are list you can get of the internet of food to tell you what’s alkaline and acidic. So what can make your body acidic. Most foods toxins and the big one stress. acid will create even more acid in your body.

There may be things i have missed on here but i am just trying to get to the point. So why do people get cancer. From what i have learnt 99.9% of people who get cancer get cancer because there body is in a advanced acidic condition.

your ph of the blood must remain alkaline
Your body regulates its pH just like it regulates its temperature. In doing so, it will even create stress on other tissues or body systems if it must.
Since your blood MUST maintain a very narrow pH range of 7.365 To 7.40, your body will do all sorts of things in order to deal with excess acidity.
It will flush excess acids into fat cells (which is why you can't seem to lose those extra pounds)....
Or, perhaps, it will leach calcium (an alkaline mineral) from your bones in order to neutralize acids.
Your body will also stress tissues by flushing acids into them (as is the case with gout) because it can't dump these acids into the bloodstream (which must remain alkaline or you'd die).
Simply stated, chronic over acidity will interrupt all cellular activities and functions - it interferes with life itself.
When the pH of your body becomes (too acidic), you may experience low energy, fatigue, excess weight, poor digestion, aches and pains, and even more serious disorders like cancer


Once your body is like this your immune system will be low and the 3 volts that go around your body to help cell communication don’t work so well. What happens is your cells live of off oxygen and they need this to live. Once your body becomes in a advanced acidic condition. Oxygen starts to deplete in the body and certain cells that get starved of oxygen. once it is starved of oxygen The prime cause of cancer is the replacement of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar. All normal body cells meet their energy needs by respiration of oxygen, whereas cancer cells meet their energy needs in great part by fermentation.
As the cells in the body become more and more acidic the body is able to take up less oxygen creating the conditions for cancer cells to develop. This all stops cell communication in the fermented cell Cancer cells produce excess lactic acid as they ferment energy. Lactic acid is toxic, and tends to prevent the transport of oxygen into neighbouring normal cells. Over time as these cells replicate, the cancer may spread if not destroyed by the immune system. so this is how cancer can start in your body.What the doctors don’t tell you when you have cancer is not to eat sugar. Sugar feeds cancer and makes it grow biopsys can spread cancer around your body. If you ever get cancer dont panic i will give the websites you can go to, to get supplements and get your body back into a alkaline body. One thing i would like to say about cancer. You have to hit cancer with as many supplements as you can because cancer wont mess around when you have it. B17 and other supplements do work but ,when you are taking these supplements when your body is in a acidic condition its like washind dishes in dirty water. One of the main ways to get your body back into a alkaline condition is to eat alkaline foods and drink alkaline water with bh booster in it. the ph booster as got ions in it that will amplify the eletrons in your body so it will give you better cell comunication.What makes me mad about all this. CANCER CANT LIVE IN A ALKALINE BODY. so why are they giving us chemo etc and not telling us this information. Its all about money. Theres loads more to tell but basically this is why we get cancer. Detox is a must ive been useing oxye which will detox you and put oxygen back into the cells but there is loads of supplements you can get of the website that are all good. these are the websites below
Be healthy

http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/causes.html
http://ph-ion.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=205

[red_ram]

This links in with what has been stated in the Hay System diet book. The body must be kept in an alkaline state and fed with alkaline food.

I'm going to do more research on this but take a look for yourself if you have the time and see what you think.

Also, well done on beating the cancer and trying to get the word out.

[eyepod]

After getting rid of my symptoms of cancer i decieded to put a advert in my local paper to help people with cancer to make them aware how you can get cancer and how you can get rid of it. I read the advert out to the person to put in the paper and as soon as i said the word cancer he said i cant use the word cancer. I said why, and he said because it would upset to many people. I said your joking . He said no. I told him that was not the reason why i cant use the word cancer. I told him that people are not meant to know the real truth about cancer and that its all about money.

I thought i would try and get some sponsership from some heath shops where i buy my supplements products from that i buy for cancer so i could put a advert in the paper. Its £55 for a advert. When i read there disclamer on the product that they sell the disclamer is nearly a page long i would not stand a chance getting any sponsership from them.

People are so programed by the people at the top its a brick wall to try and get the info out there. I put a advert in my local shop. The response from some of the people that go in the shop were they think im mad and the only way to get rid of cancer is by having chemo radiation and a operation. Thats why every 4 minuets some one dies in this country of cancer.

Well i will keep trying

Well done for beating it and trying to get the truth out. I found out about the acid / alkali situation quite awhile back after getting acidosis which was pretty scarey. Long story which I won't go into here but luckily I realised what it was straight away and treated it with alot of alkaline food, supplements etc.

The acid / alkaki thing sparked my interest and I later found out how it ties in with the cancer situation. One thing I did find out was that lemon juice from a freshly squeezed lemon is a powerful alkalizer. It sounds strange because it is citric acid but the body rapidly turns it alkaline.

I also remember about hearing about how Cancer does not like an oxygen rich environment as you stated. Do you know anything about taking Hydrogen Peroxide (yeah thats hair bleach to you blondies ;)) i.e. H2O2 almost the same chemical forumla as water with an extra oxygen molecule. You can get 5% food grade H2O2 and apparently the body breaks it down to water (H2O) with the extra oxygen molecule being used by the body.

Do you know anything about that?

http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml

[eyepod]

This links in with what has been stated in the Hay System diet book. The body must be kept in an alkaline state and fed with alkaline food.

I'm going to do more research on this but take a look for yourself if you have the time and see what you think.

Also, well done on beating the cancer and trying to get the word out.

I did follow the hay diet for awhile because when you look at the theory it makes a lot of sense and in practise it does to. The basic premise is - don't mix foods that fight i.e. proteins and carbs are both acid forming but require a different environment to be digested efficiently. Whereas alkaline forming veg etc. is neutral in terms of digestion. So meals should consist of protein / veg or carbs / veg but not protein and carbs together.

I did feel pretty good doing this but the only problem was I found it quite difficult to follow as I would need to eat more often as I was hungry alot more often as the stomach became so highly efficient at digesting everything. It certainly puts alot less strain on digestion though.

[red_ram]

One thing I did find out was that lemon juice from a freshly squeezed lemon is a powerful alkalizer. It sounds strange because it is citric acid but the body rapidly turns it alkaline.



Indeed. The fruit might seem acidic but it leaves an alkaline ash in the body which raises the alkali level.

[stelios]

CANCER CANT LIVE IN A ALKALINE BODY
Well done for posting this up.
I do agree with most of what you have said.
But ofcourse this is the key to it.

Personally i got some testing strips and every month check my ph level.
One thing you forgot to mention was caesium chloride and coral calcium. These are probably the best body alkalizer supplements.

Drinking RO purified water with a few drops of food grade hydrogen peroxide.

And if diagnosed with cancer drinking colloidal platinum - you can make it yourself by passing a small current through a platinum electrode into a glass of RO filtered water

But i agree with most of what you are saying.

Beware.
People have gone to prison for claiming to cure people of cancer.
So that is why you must simply not say you are curng people rather re phrase it like 'improve well being'

[llogun]

Well done for beating it and trying to get the truth out. I found out about the acid / alkali situation quite awhile back after getting acidosis which was pretty scarey. Long story which I won't go into here but luckily I realised what it was straight away and treated it with alot of alkaline food, supplements etc.

The acid / alkaki thing sparked my interest and I later found out how it ties in with the cancer situation. One thing I did find out was that lemon juice from a freshly squeezed lemon is a powerful alkalizer. It sounds strange because it is citric acid but the body rapidly turns it alkaline.

I also remember about hearing about how Cancer does not like an oxygen rich environment as you stated. Do you know anything about taking Hydrogen Peroxide (yeah thats hair bleach to you blondies ;)) i.e. H2O2 almost the same chemical forumla as water with an extra oxygen molecule. You can get 5% food grade H2O2 and apparently the body breaks it down to water (H2O) with the extra oxygen molecule being used by the body.

Do you know anything about that?

http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml

I have lemon juice every day and i take a product called oxye which detoxes the cells and puts oxygen into them at the same time

[llogun]

Well done for posting this up.
I do agree with most of what you have said.
But ofcourse this is the key to it.

Personally i got some testing strips and every month check my ph level.
One thing you forgot to mention was caesium chloride and coral calcium. These are probably the best body alkalizer supplements.

Drinking RO purified water with a few drops of food grade hydrogen peroxide.

And if diagnosed with cancer drinking colloidal platinum - you can make it yourself by passing a small current through a platinum electrode into a glass of RO filtered water

But i agree with most of what you are saying.

Beware.
People have gone to prison for claiming to cure people of cancer.
So that is why you must simply not say you are curng people rather re phrase it like 'improve well being'

Yes i now know you cant use the word cancer and i know i cant cure people of cancer but i can show them the door and im going to try my best to do that.Cancer is a big con and the drug companies are making loads of money on the back of cancer. Ive had a few arguments with the consultant that wanted to rip my arse out and sow it up and give me a bag. I caught him out on a few lies. 1 he told me the tumor was 6 centermeters in size 2 i told him i had research cancer on the internet and spoke to people all round the who have got rid of it by natral means. one day i got hold of my notes and had a sneaky look. I found out that 1 the tumor was not 6 centermeters in size it was 21 mil so he lied to me how big it was. 2 he wrote in my notes i met 2 blokes in a pub who i had never met before and we started talking about cancer and they told me about b17 that can kill cancer.So he lied about this as well so when another doctor looks at my notes it looks like its some back street information from a pub

[llogun]

Heres a food list i use.

...ALKALINE FOODS... ...ACIDIC FOODS...
ALKALIZING
VEGETABLES
Alfalfa
Barley Grass
Beets
Beet Greens
Broccoli
Cabbage
Carrot
Cauliflower
Celery
Chard Greens
Chlorella
Collard Greens
Cucumber
Dandelions
Dulce
Edible Flowers
Eggplant
Fermented Veggies
Garlic
Green Beans
Green Peas
Kale
Kohlrabi
Lettuce
Mushrooms
Mustard Greens
Nightshade Veggies
Onions
Parsnips (high glycemic)
Peas
Peppers
Pumpkin
Radishes
Rutabaga
Sea Veggies
Spinach, green
Spirulina
Sprouts
Sweet Potatoes
Tomatoes
Watercress
Wheat Grass
Wild Greens

ALKALIZING
ORIENTAL VEGETABLES
Maitake
Daikon
Dandelion Root
Shitake
Kombu
Reishi
Nori
Umeboshi
Wakame

ALKALIZING
FRUITS
Apple
Apricot
Avocado
Banana (high glycemic)
Berries
Blackberries
Cantaloupe
Cherries, sour
Coconut, fresh
Currants
Dates, dried
Figs, dried
Grapes
Grapefruit
Honeydew Melon
Lemon
Lime
Muskmelons
Nectarine
Orange
Peach
Pear
Pineapple
Raisins
Raspberries
Rhubarb
Strawberries
Tangerine
Tomato
Tropical Fruits
Umeboshi Plums
Watermelon

ALKALIZING
PROTEIN
Almonds
Chestnuts
Millet
Tempeh (fermented)
Tofu (fermented)
Whey Protein Powder

ALKALIZING
SWEETENERS
Stevia

ALKALIZING
SPICES & SEASONINGS
Cinnamon
Curry
Ginger
Mustard
Chili Pepper
Sea Salt
Miso
Tamari
All Herbs

ALKALIZING
OTHER
Apple Cider Vinegar
Bee Pollen
Lecithin Granules
Molasses, blackstrap
Probiotic Cultures
Soured Dairy Products
Green Juices
Veggie Juices
Fresh Fruit Juice
Mineral Water
Alkaline Antioxidant Water

ALKALIZING MINERALS
Cesium: pH 14
Potassium: pH 14
Sodium: pH 14
Calcium: pH 12
Magnesium: pH 9


Although it might seem that citrus fruits would have an acidifying effect on the body, the citric acid they contain actually has an alkalinizing effect in the system. ACIDIFYING
VEGETABLES
Corn
Lentils
Olives
Winter Squash

ACIDIFYING
FRUITS
Blueberries
Canned or Glazed Fruits
Cranberries
Currants
Plums**
Prunes**

ACIDIFYING
GRAINS, GRAIN PRODUCTS
Amaranth
Barley
Bran, wheat
Bran, oat
Corn
Cornstarch
Hemp Seed Flour
Kamut
Oats (rolled)
Oatmeal
Quinoa
Rice (all)
Rice Cakes
Rye
Spelt
Wheat
Wheat Germ
Noodles
Macaroni
Spaghetti
Bread
Crackers, soda
Flour, white
Flour, wheat

ACIDIFYING
BEANS & LEGUMES
Black Beans
Chick Peas
Green Peas
Kidney Beans
Lentils
Pinto Beans
Red Beans
Soy Beans
Soy Milk
White Beans
Rice Milk
Almond Milk

ACIDIFYING
DAIRY
Butter
Cheese
Cheese, Processed
Ice Cream
Ice Milk

ACIDIFYING
NUTS & BUTTERS
Cashews
Legumes
Peanuts
Peanut Butter
Pecans
Tahini
Walnuts

ACIDIFYING
ANIMAL PROTEIN
Bacon
Beef
Carp
Clams
Cod
Corned Beef
Fish
Haddock
Lamb
Lobster
Mussels
Organ Meats
Oyster
Pike
Pork
Rabbit
Salmon
Sardines
Sausage
Scallops
Shrimp
Scallops
Shellfish
Tuna
Turkey
Veal
Venison

ACIDIFYING
FATS & OILS
Avacado Oil
Butter
Canola Oil
Corn Oil
Hemp Seed Oil
Flax Oil
Lard
Olive Oil
Safflower Oil
Sesame Oil
Sunflower Oil

ACIDIFYING
SWEETENERS
Carob
Sugar
Corn Syrup

ACIDIFYING
ALCOHOL
Beer
Spirits
Hard Liquor
Wine

ACIDIFYING
OTHER FOODS
Catsup
Cocoa
Coffee
Vinegar
Mustard
Pepper
Soft Drinks

ACIDIFYING
DRUGS & CHEMICALS
Aspirin
Chemicals
Drugs, Medicinal
Drugs, Psychedelic
Pesticides
Herbicides
Tobacco

ACIDIFYING
JUNK FOOD
Coca-Cola: pH 2
Beer: pH 2.5
Coffee: pH 4


** These foods leave an alkaline ash but have an acidifying effect on the body.
UNKNOWN:
There are several versions of the Acidic and Alkaline Food chart to be found in different books and on the Internet. The following foods are sometimes attributed to the Acidic side of the chart and sometimes to the Alkaline side. Remember, you don't need to adhere strictly to the Alkaline side of the chart, just make sure a good percentage of the foods you eat come from that side.
Asparagus
Brazil Nuts
Brussel Sprouts
Buckwheat
Chicken
Corn
Cottage Cheese
Eggs
Flax Seeds
Green Tea
Herbal Tea
Honey
Kombucha
Lima Beans Maple Syrup
Milk
Nuts
Organic Milk
(unpasteurized)
Potatoes, white
Pumpkin Seeds
Sauerkraut
Soy Products
Sprouted Seeds
Squashes
Sunflower Seeds
Yogurt
* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease; research is ongoing.

Ranked Foods: Alkaline to Acidic
Here's a chart that ranks foods from most alkaline to most acidic.
Extremely Alkaline
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Lemons, Watermelon
Alkaline Forming
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Cantaloupe, Cayenne Celery, Dates, Figs, Kelp, Limes, Mango, Melons, Papaya, Parsley, Seaweeds, Seedless Grapes (sweet), Watercress
________________________________________
Asparagus, Fruit Juices, Grapes (sweet), Kiwifruit, Passionfruit, Pears (sweet), Pineapple, Raisins, Umeboshi Plums, Vegetable Juices
Moderately Alkaline
________________________________________
Apples (sweet), Alfalfa Sprouts, Apricots, Avocados, Bananas (ripe), Currants, Dates, Figs (fresh), Garlic, Grapefruit, Grapes (less sweet), Guavas, Herbs (leafy green), Lettuce (leafy green), Nectarine, Peaches (sweet), Pears (less sweet), Peas (fresh, sweet), Pumpkin (sweet), Sea Salt (vegetable)

Apples (sour), Beans (fresh, green), Beets, Bell Peppers, Broccoli, Cabbage, Carob, Cauliflower, Ginger (fresh), Grapes (sour), Lettuce (pale green), Oranges, Peaches (less sweet), Peas (less sweet), Potatoes (with skin), Pumpkin (less sweet), Raspberries, Strawberries, Squash, Sweet Corn (fresh), Turnip, Vinegar (apple cider)
Slightly Alkaline
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Almonds, Artichokes (Jerusalem), Brussel Sprouts, Cherries, Coconut (fresh), Cucumbers, Eggplant, Honey (raw), Leeks, Mushrooms, Okra, Olives (ripe), Onions, Pickles (homemade), Radishes, Sea Salt, Spices, Tomatoes (sweet), Vinegar (sweet brown rice)
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Chestnuts (dry, roasted), Egg Yolks (soft cooked), Essene Bread, Goat's Milk and Whey (raw), Mayonnaise (homemade), Olive Oil, Sesame Seeds (whole), Soy Beans (dry), Soy Cheese, Soy Milk, Sprouted Grains, Tofu, Tomatoes (less sweet), Yeast (nutritional flakes)
Neutral
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Butter (fresh, unsalted), Cream (fresh, raw), Cow's Milk and Whey (raw), Margine, Oils (except olive), Yogurt (plain)
Moderately Acidic
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Bananas (green), Barley (rye), Blueberries, Bran, Butter, Cereals (unrefined), Cheeses, Crackers (unrefined rye, rice and wheat), Cranberries, Dried Beans (mung, adzuki, pinto, kidney, garbanzo), Dry Coconut, Egg Whites, Eggs Whole (cooked hard), Fructose, Goat's Milk (homogenized), Honey (pasteurized), Ketchup, Maple Syrup (unprocessed), Milk (homogenized), Molasses (unsulferd and organic), Most Nuts, Mustard, Oats (rye, organic), Olives (pickled), Pasta (whole grain), Pastry (whole grain and honey), Plums, Popcorn (with salt and/or butter), Potatoes, Prunes, Rice (basmati and brown), Seeds (pumpkin, sunflower), Soy Sauce, Wheat Bread (sprouted organic)
Extremely Acidic
________________________________________
Artificial Sweeteners, Beef, Beer, Breads, Brown Sugar, Carbonated Soft Drinks, Cereals (refined), Chocolate, Cigarettes and Tobacco, Coffee, Cream of Wheat (unrefined), Custard (with white sugar), Deer, Drugs, Fish, Flour (white wheat), Fruit Juices with Sugar, Jams, Jellies, Lamb, Liquor, Maple Syrup (processed), Molasses (sulphured), Pasta (white), Pastries and Cakes from White Flour, Pickles (commercial), Pork, Poultry, Seafood, Sugar (white), Table Salt (refined and iodized), Tea (black), White Bread, White Vinegar (processed), Whole Wheat Foods, Wine, Yogurt (sweetened)

[trooper]

Excellent thread llogun, you're gonna help lots of people with this. Did you eat your food raw, cooked or both?

Does anyone know of a good place to buy ph strips in the UK?

[llogun]

Excellent thread llogun, you're gonna help lots of people with this. Did you eat your food raw, cooked or both?

Does anyone know of a good place to buy ph strips in the UK?

I cook my veg but only slightly and i drink any juice that came out of them. i did do juicing but made every excuse up not to do it. I was fed up of cleaning the machine but really juicing is a must. The ph strips i get from the usa with my water boosters. When you have cancer it can take months to get it back to alkaline but worth it in the end.

[trooper]

Anyone heard of using Bicarbonate of Soda to alkalize the body?

[indigowarrior]

BUMP
but do check out other lists of acid/ alkaline foods as they sometimes have some differing opinions, also check out yin / yang diet which is very similar and might help to classify foods you are not sure of.

[jamesk]

Hi llogun,

good posts....

yes, the cause of cancer has been well known fo a long time - Dr Otto Warburg got the Noble price in medicine for showing that the Primary cause of all cancer is acidity and lack of oxygen in the effected areas. But cancer is big money inustry - billions and billions of dollars and the simple truth gets ignored!

Alkaline ionized water is a great, relatively inexpensive way to alkalize, hydrate, mineralize and detoxify the body.

[llogun]

Hi llogun,

good posts....

yes, the cause of cancer has been well known fo a long time - Dr Otto Warburg got the Noble price in medicine for showing that the Primary cause of all cancer is acidity and lack of oxygen in the effected areas. But cancer is big money inustry - billions and billions of dollars and the simple truth gets ignored!

Alkaline ionized water is a great, relatively inexpensive way to alkalize, hydrate, mineralize and detoxify the body.

Just to let you people know ive just been on jamesk website you can click on it in is post above mine. Its very good and got some great info on there on cancer detoxing and heath NICE WEBSITE

[2013]

Excellent thread llogun .
gatherig info together at least here you can be heard .You are getting thru to people just by relating your story .Prevention is better than cure.So im sure this will help lots of people balance their bodies and remain healthy.Keep on keeping on ,your doing a good job :D

[thelucifer]

QUOTE=lookfar;537595]Great stuff llogun, I'm sure the people who need it most will appear in your life (or you theres) at just the right time. Thanks, your info will reach a huge amount of people if you post if on here too...:)
Well after all the the research i have done on cancer this is what i have found out why we get ill and get cancer. When we are born our body is in a alkaline condition and this is how are body’s are meant to be all the time alkaline. Your body also puts out 3 volts of electricity controlled by the brain and pumped around the body by the heart because your body works on electrical signals. you also have a immune system which is made up of cells organs and tissues. All 3 of these work hand in hand to keeping you healthy. When your body is in this condition you will struggle to get a cold. There’s a lot involved what i am going to say now, infact you could write a book on it so i will keep it basic because im a basic person so dont have a go at me if i have missed some things out.
The main reasons why we get ill is because are body’s have become acidic. There is 3 stages to this, beginning middle and advanced of a acid body. Beginning feeling tired headaches etc middle colds and flu Candia etc advanced cancers arthritis etc. this is just a small few but gives you a idea of how having a acid body works. The more acidic your body is the worse you will be. Now there are many reasons how your body becomes acidic. Most of it is what we put in our mouth.

When i got cancer i started to eat a lot of fish thinking it was good for me and dont get me wrong fish is good for you but not when you have got cancer and trying to get rid of cancer your self. The reason, it is very acidic. in fact once i started looking at food i couldn’t believe what food was acidic and alkaline. Apart from most fruit and veg which is alkaline everything els is acidic. There are list you can get of the internet of food to tell you what’s alkaline and acidic. So what can make your body acidic. Most foods toxins and the big one stress. acid will create even more acid in your body.

There may be things i have missed on here but i am just trying to get to the point. So why do people get cancer. From what i have learnt 99.9% of people who get cancer get cancer because there body is in a advanced acidic condition.

your ph of the blood must remain alkaline
Your body regulates its pH just like it regulates its temperature. In doing so, it will even create stress on other tissues or body systems if it must.
Since your blood MUST maintain a very narrow pH range of 7.365 To 7.40, your body will do all sorts of things in order to deal with excess acidity.
It will flush excess acids into fat cells (which is why you can't seem to lose those extra pounds)....
Or, perhaps, it will leach calcium (an alkaline mineral) from your bones in order to neutralize acids.
Your body will also stress tissues by flushing acids into them (as is the case with gout) because it can't dump these acids into the bloodstream (which must remain alkaline or you'd die).
Simply stated, chronic over acidity will interrupt all cellular activities and functions - it interferes with life itself.
When the pH of your body becomes (too acidic), you may experience low energy, fatigue, excess weight, poor digestion, aches and pains, and even more serious disorders like cancer


Once your body is like this your immune system will be low and the 3 volts that go around your body to help cell communication don’t work so well. What happens is your cells live of off oxygen and they need this to live. Once your body becomes in a advanced acidic condition. Oxygen starts to deplete in the body and certain cells that get starved of oxygen. once it is starved of oxygen The prime cause of cancer is the replacement of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar. All normal body cells meet their energy needs by respiration of oxygen, whereas cancer cells meet their energy needs in great part by fermentation.
As the cells in the body become more and more acidic the body is able to take up less oxygen creating the conditions for cancer cells to develop. This all stops cell communication in the fermented cell Cancer cells produce excess lactic acid as they ferment energy. Lactic acid is toxic, and tends to prevent the transport of oxygen into neighbouring normal cells. Over time as these cells replicate, the cancer may spread if not destroyed by the immune system. so this is how cancer can start in your body.What the doctors don’t tell you when you have cancer is not to eat sugar. Sugar feeds cancer and makes it grow biopsys can spread cancer around your body. If you ever get cancer dont panic i will give the websites you can go to, to get supplements and get your body back into a alkaline body. One thing i would like to say about cancer. You have to hit cancer with as many supplements as you can because cancer wont mess around when you have it. B17 and other supplements do work but ,when you are taking these supplements when your body is in a acidic condition its like washind dishes in dirty water. One of the main ways to get your body back into a alkaline condition is to eat alkaline foods and drink alkaline water with bh booster in it. the ph booster as got ions in it that will amplify the eletrons in your body so it will give you better cell comunication.What makes me mad about all this. CANCER CANT LIVE IN A ALKALINE BODY. so why are they giving us chemo etc and not telling us this information. Its all about money. Theres loads more to tell but basically this is why we get cancer. Detox is a must ive been useing oxye which will detox you and put oxygen back into the cells but there is loads of supplements you can get of the website that are all good. these are the websites below
Be healthy

http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/causes.html
http://ph-ion.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=205


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28652

Its always good to see people learning truth.

[tootrue]

:( people are not meant to know the real truth about cancer



Thats it llogun! Very true!
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In my viewe the primary cause of cancer is inner soul/consciousness Imbalance.

It is the conflict within ourselves that causes cancers!
No, this is not some 'spiritual crap'! It is a fact that emotions affect our body's electric circuit, which in turn has an effect on our physical bodies.

All supressed emotions have the capacity to develop into cancers! It is emotions, such as inner guilt, resentment and inner anger, that make us ill

Some people would just explode, smash things and let it out!
Others would keep it in, and get ill!!
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But as you mentioned, our 'Science' and medicine, would have none of the facts!

[cheesedanish]

Thanks for the thread Llogun !
My husband just finished his chemo 3 months ago - after a difficult year of
Chemo, Radiation and Operations!
Yes its definitely a money making industry - the costs are astronomical.
Luckily we have a good medical aid.

The Oncology ward has just increased in size to a Bigger Unit so they
are anticipating a lot more patients in future!
Unfortunately my Husband wanted to follow the medical route to treat
his cancer. I don't think he has dealt with the emotional side of his
illness.

I also wonder some days how accurate are these tests that say you
have 'Cancer' how can we know for sure if that is really cancer or not?
We just blindly accept what Doctors say.

Well done on your journey so far.

[cheesedanish]

One more thing ... when he finished his Op they did a CT scan which
showed Cancer clear. They still put him on 6 months of Chemotherapy
as 'precaution'. I personally would not do it - but He followed what
Oncologist suggested. Why still do the Chemo when the scan showed
you are cancer free - makes me wonder about the money? Although
the Oncologist looked like she has his Health interest at heart and that
'this was a norm'. Anyhow its over for now - I just worry about the long
term effects of the Chemo.

[tootrue]

I also wonder some days how accurate are these tests that say you
have 'Cancer' how can we know for sure if that is really cancer or not?
We just blindly accept what Doctors say.



I agree

What happens once you believe that you are ill?
And also - how can they treat something, that they have no clear idea at all, about?

What happens to real scientists and health researchers?
When they go public, bad things start happening to them!

[llogun]

One more thing ... when he finished his Op they did a CT scan which
showed Cancer clear. They still put him on 6 months of Chemotherapy
as 'precaution'. I personally would not do it - but He followed what
Oncologist suggested. Why still do the Chemo when the scan showed
you are cancer free - makes me wonder about the money? Although
the Oncologist looked like she has his Health interest at heart and that
'this was a norm'. Anyhow its over for now - I just worry about the long
term effects of the Chemo.

The reason they give you more chemo is because there might be small amounts of cancer that the scan cant see so they say but there might be other reasons like more money for them. The thing about ct scans they can increase the chance of cancer and they dish them out like water off a ducks back.

[pacoquerak]

The reason they give you more chemo is because there might be small amounts of cancer that the scan cant see so they say but there might be other reasons like more money for them. The thing about ct scans they can increase the chance of cancer and they dish them out like water off a ducks back.

funny, i was just about to post that i read that duck eggs are alkalising and i was told by a korean lady that duck meat is as well! so if you gotta eat meat duck sounds like the way to go to me!

[devotional soul]

Don't forget Laetrile (B17):

http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/introduction.html
http://www.laetrile.com.au/

Here's a video about it:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...30190281243507

Vitamin B-17 is one of the main sources of food in cultures such as the Eskimos, the Hunzas, the Abkasians and many more. Did you know that within these tribes there has never been a reported case of cancer?

Foods high in laetrile are:

Fruit seeds: apricot kernals are the highest, apple seeds next

Nuts: bitter almond, macadamia, cashew

Berries: Blackberry, cranberry, elderberry, raspberry and strawberries

Seeds: flaxseeds and sesame seeds

Beans: broad beans, burma, chick peas, sprouted lentils, lima, sprouted mung, rangoon, scarlet runner

Grains: Oat groats, barley, brown rice, buckwheat groats, millet, rye and wheat berries

[cheesedanish]

My friend's Mom was diagnosed with breast cancer this year and she
got me onto these people I thought you would find interesting Llogun
and others - it's very much in line with what you are doing. I am sure
they must have something like this where you stay?

http://www.sevenpointfive.co.za (http://www.sevenpointfive.co.za/)/

Do you know what the pH of your saliva is? Do you know it should be 7.5 to be healthy? Do you know that an acidic pH, below 7, can be the root cause of over 150 diseases? How can you balance your pH to 7.5? Not sure? Then you have come to the right place. Sevenpointfive has clinics that specialise in finding possible root causes of any imbalanced health you may suffer, from general fatigue to hyperactivity, or, more serious conditions like Lupus or Cancer.

[kiwimaj]

Of course the so called "treatments" for cancer is all a big conspiracy. You can cure yourself of any illness by simply changing your diet, the body has amazing self-regenerating powers to heal itself. Not justthrough diet, but there are plenty of alternative remedies out there, but diet I would say is the main one. We have been brainwashed since birth to go to the docs if there is anything wrong and to take the doc's advice. We are not told that we can indeed cure ourselves and that we can indeed prevent stuff happening to us in the first place, by our own means.

I have not taken any form of painkiller for example since (re) discovering that diet can heal, not a pill from the chemist. There is big money to be made from keeping people ill, from enticing them with shit fast food, making them ill from that, then having to go to the docs for drugs to ease the pain. I do believe alot of docs still do not know about the natural healing of plants and because they are paid bonuses by the drugs companies, would rather keep their patients ill and dependant, rather than advising them of how they can cure themselves.

Diabetes is another, totally self curable, just 2 websites that may be of interest...

http://www.rawfor30days.com/
http://www.treeoflife.nu/diabetes

Life is so fascinating when you step outside of the box....

[wellsyboy]

I have read this thread with interest and I am so pleased for you being able to treat yourself. I will now be looking into this a lot more myself for friends and family that may well suffer from cancer at some point (until we can all educate people).

I saw an article on the BBC in the UK at least 6 months ago, whereby scientists were using injections of neat Vitamin C to treat tumours in mice (maybe rats). The results were EXTREMELY positive as vitamin C is a natural anti-oxidant.

Can I find anymore information about this anywhere, what do you think???

Here is the BBC link I found in their archive from 2005 but no sign of the more recent findings (I will keep searching).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4238250.stm

This should be the biggest news going when you consider the cost to the NHS (or should I say profit to the big pharmas) for treatment of cancer...

[2013]

Hi check out you tube for info on vit C injections .They use these in Germany to good effect . There was a trail in the Bristol hospital some years back with B17 injections intravenously .A friend of a friend took part and it was very successful . :D

[wellsyboy]

Hi check out you tube for info on vit C injections .They use these in Germany to good effect . There was a trail in the Bristol hospital some years back with B17 injections intravenously .A friend of a friend took part and it was very successful . :D

Cheers. I'll take a look.

[runlikehell]

Well Done llogun :)

[linredfern]

excellent information, thanks

[griswald]

Well done llogun, keep spreading the word.

peace:)
griswald

[lupa]

hey llogun

I met someone that works in a leicester university lab that deals with cancer cells and biospys the other night, and I told her about your alkaline diet. and straight away she agreed that it was true. I've been on your diet now for about two weeks..gotta tell you I FEEL GREAT! seriously i feel really well :)

Ive been juicing up all sorts of potions and giving it to my dog aswell. you should see her. her coat looks like silk, feels like it too, her eyes are bright her nose is wet and she's even better behaved so thank you hun you're a star! x

[llogun]

hey llogun

I met someone that works in a leicester university lab that deals with cancer cells and biospys the other night, and I told her about your alkaline diet. and straight away she agreed that it was true. I've been on your diet now for about two weeks..gotta tell you I FEEL GREAT! seriously i feel really well :)

Ive been juicing up all sorts of potions and giving it to my dog aswell. you should see her. her coat looks like silk, feels like it too, her eyes are bright her nose is wet and she's even better behaved so thank you hun you're a star! x

My dog started to have fits, everyone said take her to the vets. I said no, I just changed her diet and after a month shy stopped having them.
You just cant believe can you change your food and eat the right things and hey your cured

[llogun]

Hey lupa im glad you are doing ok

[llogun]

My dog started to have fits, everyone said take her to the vets. I said no, I just changed her diet and after a month shy stopped having them.
You just cant believe can you change your food and eat the right things and hey your cured
This where the brick wall of cancer comes in. When some one in the lab knows about a alkaline the info does not get passed down the line, or should i say it does but the imformation stays on the otherside of the wall.

[lupa]

My dog started to have fits, everyone said take her to the vets. I said no, I just changed her diet and after a month shy stopped having them.
You just cant believe can you change your food and eat the right things and hey your cured

well I'm going to keep at it llogun because it just feels right in my system and i'm completly hooked on my juicer drinks. i make up around a litre of the magical goo a day, they are too delish for words. I'll ph test myself in a couple of months and take it from there. still have 5 years of trips to the hospital which give off bad energy. I can just smell death in those places and western medicine just treats or works on the illness whether it works or not, for the most part..it does not. I firmly believe that you treat the whole being so illness never takes place in the first place and i feel that the trips to the hospital will not be needed soon. i'll play the game for a couple of visits and doubt very much i will bother going again because it will be pointless.

I've been fortunate in the fact that i've never really been ill throughout my life on this spinning ball. as i've mentioned before on previous posts, germs, viruses etc just seem to bounce off me, i don't get sick. untill last year when everything caved in, all in one week and it spiralled from there. someone mentioned on here on having a corpse in your mouth and that deffinatly has a mental effect on your whole being so the victim/corpse has been removed from my mind which has been a real positive effect.

so thats that :D big grin for how i feel. on the dog issue. anyone feeding their dogs things like bakers complete or foods with lots of colours..they will mess your dogs head up at best, at worst they will kill your dog fact!

stick to working dog dried foods without the colours/additives. you will save a small fortune on buying those big 15kg sacks(they cost anywhere from £10.00-£50.00p per sack)plus you don't need to give them 3 cups a day like a working dog, one 3rd of a cup is plenty enough to give them all the nutriants they will need. forget the gunk they sell in the supermarkets. over priced, full of crap.. just like the crap they try and fill us up with.

slight hijack on dogs but after dealing with many dominant breeds with ISSUES they can be sorted out so easy with diet. but giving my dog a little of alkaline juiced drinks, her coat glows with health, she shines! ;)

so thanks again llogun,

[bribean]

Its great to hear you are doing well llogan.
This thread is brilliant.

I lost my Dad to cancer a few years back and I wish that I knew then what I do now about the whole issue. I know that the treatment (chemo) killed him.
The medical system is brutal and barbaric.

Last year a good freind of mine, who is heavily into healthy eating, came across a book by Dr Robert Young called Sick & Tired. Its all about the acid in your body, and getting your alkaline ballance right, just like you say.

My friend used to think I was a fool when I talked of the conspiracy and we had many debates, but we always agreed to differ on the subject.
That was until he had read the above mentioned book.
Since then his whole outlook has changed and he is an avid researcher on the conspiracy subject too.

We both do our bit within our own family and friends circle to spread the word, and even though it can be like banging your head against a wall sometimes, we have had some success nevertheless.
I know that people are at last begining to wake up, and the truth about healthcare is a real eyeopener for many, so keep spreading the word and good luck.

Here is a link to Dr Roberts site;
http://www.phmiracleliving.com/

[llogun]

Its great to hear you are doing well llogan.
This thread is brilliant.

I lost my Dad to cancer a few years back and I wish that I knew then what I do now about the whole issue. I know that the treatment (chemo) killed him.
The medical system is brutal and barbaric.

Last year a good freind of mine, who is heavily into healthy eating, came across a book by Dr Robert Young called Sick & Tired. Its all about the acid in your body, and getting your alkaline ballance right, just like you say.

My friend used to think I was a fool when I talked of the conspiracy and we had many debates, but we always agreed to differ on the subject.
That was until he had read the above mentioned book.
Since then his whole outlook has changed and he is an avid researcher on the conspiracy subject too.

We both do our bit within our own family and friends circle to spread the word, and even though it can be like banging your head against a wall sometimes, we have had some success nevertheless.
I know that people are at last begining to wake up, and the truth about healthcare is a real eyeopener for many, so keep spreading the word and good luck.

Here is a link to Dr Roberts site;
http://www.phmiracleliving.com/

Thanks bribean for the website

[llogun]

I had my mri scan the other day 16 4 09 and my tumor as gone. I just have scar tissue left. There are many diffrant ways to beat cancer. i found this way the best and it was all very clear to me in the end what i had to do. There is so much info out there your head can get stuck in a rut and some people are starting to jump on the band wagon and trying to make money on the back of people with cancer when this info should be free. All the people who know me in leicester are now saying to me i cant believe it when you first told me what you where doing i thought you were crazy. Well once again i want to thank everyone who help me and gave me support and most of all steve 2013. Now everyone in leicester, dont think im crazy, its opened there eyes and as we all no on here, its just one part of the jigsaw puzzle that will hopfully make them see the next part that starts to make the picture for them.

[2013]

Well done llogun for listening to your own intuition and working with your body to heal .It's good we can exchange useful information to help each other , thats what its all about . take it easy mate . :D

[llogun]

Thanks mate

[llogun]

This was my daily routine I had to get rid of the cancer
I drank 2 to 3 litres of alkaline water with a a ph booster in it.a day
I had a fresh lemon squeezed with a few ounces of water in the morning
I juiced carrot and broccoli twice a day
I only would eat veg and cooked as raw as possible with potatoes and gravy made from veg stock
Salads with a small amount of brown bread
I took vitamin A C D E and selenium
B17 50 aday and I had to build up to this
mms but I had to come off it after a while because it made me ill I did get to 15 drops but one day I mixed the dosage up wrong and I thought I was going to die my fault
I was taking 100 drops a day of oxye 100 drops of zeolite 6 o3 right this cleans and oxygenates the bowl. 3 sharks liver oil capsules 2 table spoons of flax seed oil 1 cod liver oil capsules aday
To keep on this diet was very hard and I did let my self down every now and then when I could smell bacon cooking and I have got a very sweet tooth which is bad to eat when you have cancer.
Also when you stop eating meat and you go on a vegan diet you need to really take vit b 12 this will replace what you lose from not eating it.
Most important of all positive thinking
That’s about it

[2013]

Good menu .
I was doing 35 apricot kernels a day . I did use mms for a few months , cant say i saw an improvement , but it didn't make me any worse .
I had organic porridge for breakfast ,Soya or rice milk not dairy still do . loaded with
goji berries
strawberries raspberries and blueberries etc .
Hulled hemp seed and linseed added as well .
Juiced organic carrots ,apples and beetroot and broccoli ,daily .
Steamed fish with steamed veg and organic spuds .
Essiac tincture in organic apple juice daily .
Quinoa , similar to rice but finer , with more organic veg .
Vegetable soup .
Salads with sprouted seeds ,such as broccoli ,alfalfa ,mung bean , red clover . Delicious .Egg free mayonnaise and cheesley vegan cheese alternative
Soya or oat milk smoothies packed with organic fruit and seeds .
Vegan hot dogs .Organic baked beans as they contain less sugar and dont make up for it with aspartame .
Basically just variations of that diet , no dairy and steamed all food i could .
Also used Graviola herb tablets , a very good anti cancer supplement.
Drank plenty of water with added aerobic oxygen drops .
Have a very good homeopath , who works with me supporting my immune system to , worth while finding a good one if you can .:D

[tootrue]

Cancer just down to genes 'a myth'

People should stop believing cancer is just down to "bad luck" or their genes and look to their own lifestyle, an expert has said. Skip related content


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090420/tuk-cancer-just-down-to-genes-a-myth-6323e80.html

[breezinreezin]

Excellent thread. Very inspirational. I do feel it's time for me to go this route, as I've just felt too tired, for too long. I need some energy!

[chaste]

A really interesting thread. The sort of information you wish had been freely available years ago.

The alkalinity/acidity was something I've never seen before. I'm trying to find out stuff for someone I think might be resistant to making changes in their diet (and, given the hospital dietitician's advice to stop eating diet yoghurt and eat butter and jam, may be sceptical of something that goes against what the 'experts' say) - does anyone think you can make a difference with only some of the measures e.g. alkaline water, bicarbonate of soda, etc., whilst monitoring their pH level?

[llogun]

A really interesting thread. The sort of information you wish had been freely available years ago.

The alkalinity/acidity was something I've never seen before. I'm trying to find out stuff for someone I think might be resistant to making changes in their diet (and, given the hospital dietitician's advice to stop eating diet yoghurt and eat butter and jam, may be sceptical of something that goes against what the 'experts' say) - does anyone think you can make a difference with only some of the measures e.g. alkaline water, bicarbonate of soda, etc., whilst monitoring their pH level?
To get your body back to a alkaline condition can take months and thats putting everything back into your body whats alkaline. Every time you eat acidic foods or drink you are working against what you are trying to do

[chaste]

Thanks, llogun.

[dude111]

my aunt has cancer - she isn't taking chemo or anything like that from 'the doctors' ------ some of her family are trying to convince her to 'take the doctors advice' and use their treatments. She refuses though and is going about her own way to defeat the cancer.GOOD FOR HER!!

I once heard about a lady in california who had HIV and she did not let the doctors give her anything for it and you know what?

ITS STAYING IN REMISSION (Or it was the last i heard,it wasnt bothering her,etc)

[elrafaargentino]

I wonder if there is alkaline water produced, because in argentina I have not heard anything about it.

[motleyhoo]

A really interesting thread. The sort of information you wish had been freely available years ago.

The alkalinity/acidity was something I've never seen before. I'm trying to find out stuff for someone I think might be resistant to making changes in their diet (and, given the hospital dietitician's advice to stop eating diet yoghurt and eat butter and jam, may be sceptical of something that goes against what the 'experts' say) - does anyone think you can make a difference with only some of the measures e.g. alkaline water, bicarbonate of soda, etc., whilst monitoring their pH level?

I don't think that would work every well. You need to be eating alkaline foods primarily and focus on drinks second. But you really need to do both. Ironically, or maybe not, its the alkaline foods we should be eating anyway, and it's mostly the junk foods that are acidic.

One important thing - it's not the pH of the food itself that matters, but rather how it is converted in the body. Raw vinegar is highly acidic, but consuming a little in your diet is alkaline.

There's lots of info on google about "alkaline diets" and many good books on amazon, etc.

.

[curtaincat]

It is your thoughts that make all the difference.
I am not saying eat crap, but it is your thoughts.
Positive and true thoughts.
Everytime you think anything crappy , unfortunately, you get it back.
This is the hardest thing to learn, I am still 'digesting' such stuff myself.

( and I am not being a nasty person saying this, I have at least 4 lovely people I know that have 'died' from cancer.)

[chaste]

I don't think that would work every well. You need to be eating alkaline foods primarily and focus on drinks second. But you really need to do both. Ironically, or maybe not, its the alkaline foods we should be eating anyway, and it's mostly the junk foods that are acidic.

One important thing - it's not the pH of the food itself that matters, but rather how it is converted in the body. Raw vinegar is highly acidic, but consuming a little in your diet is alkaline.

There's lots of info on google about "alkaline diets" and many good books on amazon, etc.

.

Thanks. A friend who became a nutritionist was back home for a hen night recently and this subject came up - it turns out she's known about this for ages and had always being going on about something called 'supergreens' (?), which didn't make sense at the time but sounds like something people use to make water alkaline (?).

[motleyhoo]

Thanks. A friend who became a nutritionist was back home for a hen night recently and this subject came up - it turns out she's known about this for ages and had always being going on about something called 'supergreens' (?), which didn't make sense at the time but sounds like something people use to make water alkaline (?).

Supergreens are fantastic, and I just started reading about them and consuming them a couple of years ago. And also Brassicas. I was making my own supergreen smoothies everyday, but I don't like the taste. I now make fruit "superfood" smoothies, and then I take supergreen capsules that I make myself.

I could talk all day about supergreens, superfoods, and micro/phyto nutrients, but you can find a lot of information by using the search box at the following site:

http://www.naturalnews.com/

.

[llogun]

Hi everyone there’s a great book out written by TY BOLLINGER called cancer outside the box. You can buy it of off Amazon, It’s a great book and it is now known as the bible book on cancer. It is a must read for some one who as been told they have cancer and for people who don’t want to get it. Ive read it and it’s a 10 out if 10 for me

[llogun]

sorry the book is called CANCER STEPPING OUTSIDE THE BOX

[johan niklasson]

www.theflucase.com

[rodin]

I agree with everything on this great thread. One thing though - cesium chloride can bring relief from the symptoms of terminal cancer but is not I think a cure. I knew someone diagnosed late with stage 4 lung cancer with lymph metastases. The most positive results she had were from ozone therapy (where the blood gets ozonated then returned to the body). Tried to fight with diet and some other alternatives but in the end it was unsuccessful.

Cancer: Civilization's No. 2 Killer

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020122horne.21stcentury/020122ch13.html

I am not sure those at the top of the 'medical establishment' keep people in the dark about alternative remedies just for the obscene profit motive. I think there is possibly a darker agenda. Doctors I think mostly do what they believe is for the best.

[bsmurph83]

forgive me if this has already been posted but these are vital resources:

World Without Cancer - video

World Without Cancer - book

cancer = cured.

[llogun]

forgive me if this has already been posted but these are vital resources:

World Without Cancer - video

World Without Cancer - book

cancer = cured.
Ive watched this video and its very good. To get the hemp oil is a joke it can cost a lot of money to get the oil, only because of the shitty goverment banning the drug

[united hemp]

thats a great vid.
here's where the bubble pops!
thc kills cancer cells
to get the hemp oil is a joke?
lot of money?
what good is money when your dead?
1 pound of good high thc content hemp bud.
make oil .
if you can make a coffie you can make a cure!
thc works on way more than cancer's way more!
google it up mate?
www.pnas.org
seach thc-cancer
then thc on anything
thc aids?
hep?
warts?
etc....they know very well what thc can do...
http://antiquecannabisbook.com/
www.sethgroup.org
thc killing brain cancer cells...
online time lapse vid.
from where iam.
working with phoenixtears,and living next door to rick,ive been involved for almost 5 yrs.
now.
and we are saving lives everyday,and now people all over the world know how to cure cancer's!
grow hemp make oil -cure cancer!
in canada 1.5 million canadians share a record for the hemp plant-this genocide is about to end.
and now the world is waking up to truth!
the hemp plant can put an end to nwo.
grow hemp use it for everything.
50,000 uses and growing!
without hemp no man...think about it?
www.jackherer.com
tonite jack lay's in a doctor induced coma in ice...having suffred a heart attack!
we are shattered by this....news
jack your coming back! you and rick got work 2 do!
say a prayer for jack herer.
hemp can save the world!
www.jackherer.com

peace and prayers
jack herer






i see the people rick simpson has treated met a lot of them.
use the oil myself,for many things like tooth ache's 5 min no pain rub it on.
burn's amazing...warts good for that,rashes...
skin cancer get one ounce of high thc hemp,make oil rub it on cancer,put band aid on,repeat evert 2-3 days...watch what happens....thc kills skin cancer right in front of your eyes...easy to prove.
simple to make
www.phoenixtears.ca
read making the medicine.
watch
www.runfromthecuremovie.com
we need healers everywhere.
if you grow hemp or buy hemp...make oil from the buds,eat it.and or rub it on.
full body healing.
rick haven treated over 2500 people now,

[kasalt]

www.jackherer.com (http://www.jackherer.com)
tonite jack lay's in a doctor induced coma in ice...having suffred a heart attack!
we are shattered by this....news
jack your coming back! you and rick got work 2 do!
say a prayer for jack herer.
hemp can save the world!
www.jackherer.com (http://www.jackherer.com)

peace and prayers
jack herer


Oh gosh, I'm really sorry to hear about that. Just a few weeks ago, I received his book, The Emperor Wears No Clothes, through the mail. It was autographed by Jack himself. I'm so sorry to hear this news.

[llogun]

I agree with everything on this great thread. One thing though - cesium chloride can bring relief from the symptoms of terminal cancer but is not I think a cure. I knew someone diagnosed late with stage 4 lung cancer with lymph metastases. The most positive results she had were from ozone therapy (where the blood gets ozonated then returned to the body). Tried to fight with diet and some other alternatives but in the end it was unsuccessful.

Cancer: Civilization's No. 2 Killer

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020122horne.21stcentury/020122ch13.html

I am not sure those at the top of the 'medical establishment' keep people in the dark about alternative remedies just for the obscene profit motive. I think there is possibly a darker agenda. Doctors I think mostly do what they believe is for the best.

I just want say that when getting rid of cancer yourself, You have to go into it with a very positive attitude. If the cancer is agressive and is spreading round the body you have to work fast. you need to be taking oxygen supplements which was oxye for me and lots of it. I was on 100 drops aday and lots of other supplements to. you have to hammer cancer with as many supplement as you can.

Drinking at least 2 liters of alkaline water a day and filterd is a must to help get rid of toxins in your body. Most people tend to go throught with the treatment of chemo radio and a hop which just detroys the persons immune system. This then makes it a lot harder to get a person right back to health.
It can be done thou with the right info and attitude.

[united hemp]

http://www.chemo-facts.com/

[egozero]

baking soda! ;)

[pureheart]

baking soda! ;)


http://www.bamboo-delight.com/download/Cure_Cancer_with_Baking_Soda.htm

Curing Cancer with Baking Soda:

What MD’s and Naturopaths Don’t Know
by Gregory Delaney

Wouldn’t the delusional physicians and the big pharmacology swindlers be embarrassed to find that cancer could be cured with nothing more complicated than ordinary baking soda? Well, no, they wouldn’t be embarrassed because they would be outraged. All of their billions in profits vanishing in a twinkle, would not have these betrayers of Mankind at all happy with such a simple cancer cure. And yet, cancer can be cured with nothing more complicated than ordinary baking soda. And I will explain how.



While the greedy physicians and the cancer industry robber barons have been using every imaginable method for treating the symptoms of cancer, and while millions of people have suffered and died under the most astounding variety of mechanical, chemical, bio-technological and radiological absurdities, little progress in curing cancer has actually been made. And why? Well, to understand why, you would have to understand who is treating cancer before you can understand why it is not being cured. Who are these cancer physicians who claim to know so much yet fail to do anything useful?



Firstly, they are people who admit that they don’t know the cause of cancer or how to cure it. And yet they insist that they be allowed to “practice medicine” anyway! These oncologists admit that no matter what they do, you are going to die anyway, and so why not let them do something since they can make better use of your money than you can. Even though they admit that they don’t know what they are doing, they offer you just two (and only two) choices: (1) let them cut-poison-irradiate-and-transplant you which includes a free estimation of how long you will live or (2) do nothing at all which also includes a free, but much shorter, estimation of how long you will live. And so, with such limited choices, most people prefer to bequeath their savings account to the doctors for choice number one. At best, the physicians promise to drug you into unconsciousness so that you do not feel any pain either from your tumors or from their billing department.



But what happens if you don’t take their advice and choose alternative medicine, instead – you know, the choice that the doctors never mention to their patients? Since it has been proven that hospital patients live longer when the doctors go on strike, then alternative medicine is obviously better than a placebo. But they never mention that, either.



Secondly, these oncologists with all of their fancy degrees and years of microscopic confusion are really nothing more than disciples of fraud. This fraud is known as “symptomatic medicine”. And these cancer physicians prove their idiocy on a daily basis by classifying cancer as a “disease”. Would it be a joke on them if it was discovered that cancer really is not a disease at all but merely a “symptom” of something else? Hundreds of millions of dying cancer patients would certainly not be laughing. And millions of billionaire Big Pharma swindlers would not be laughing, either. Would it be a joke if it was discovered that cancer is not a disease at all and that these swindling greed-bags were actually mistaking the symptoms for the disease? I don’t think there would be much laughter in finding this to be true; but it is true. And here’s how this simple cure works.



The cancer quacks who are known as “modern physicians” (or oncology engineers), all know that there are many things that cause cancer. Does this ring a bell in their mighty brains? No, of course not. If there are many things that cause cancer, then how can cancer be classified as a disease? Isn’t it true, rather, that the many causative agents are the disease while the manifestations of tumors and malignancies are actually the symptom? This may seem strange but think about it a bit. And you alternative practitioners had better think about it a bit since the physicians have already proven that they are on the wrong track and haven’t thought about it enough.



If many things cause cancer (radiation, chemicals, viruses, sunlight, etc.) then even the dumbest physician knows enough to remove the primary cause. So, patients who work in the bright sun or in chemical factories are advised to avoid these situations. Hooray for the doctors who have common sense! But why are they so few?



Once you remove the primal cause, you are still left with a growing malignancy. (I am referring to the growing tumor and not to the doctors and the Big Pharma executives, themselves.) This cancerous growth has certain attributes that the idiot doctors overlook because they have been trained to use the most expensive methods possible for producing the largest possible profit for themselves and for their hospitals and for their drug suppliers. And after extracting all possible savings accounts, checking accounts, real property and insurance benefits, they send the dying patient home after saying, “We have done everything that we can do.” No, I don’t think many people will be laughing to discover that cancer can be cured with baking soda.



But even after the primary cause of the cancer is removed, why do the cancer cells keep growing? The doctors say because cancer is a disease. However, these practitioners of “symptomatic medicine” are mistaking the disease for the symptom. It is more accurate to say that the cancer is not the disease, itself, but is rather the symptom.



The maniac oncologists cut and radiate and poison and burn the cancer cells in an attempt to kill them. But the alternative practitioner prefers to let the powerful defenses of the body do all the work. And why? Because the body can take care of itself just fine as long as you provide it with what it needs to do the necessary healing. In this case, first remove the causative factors of cancer (such as the oncologists and Big Pharma robber barons) and then get to work on the underlying causes.



All cancer has some common denominators that the physicians think are inconsequential. But if you think about it a little bit, you will see that the oncologists are full of themselves and not full of knowledge. What they think is the disease, is actually the symptom. And what they think is inconsequential is actually the tiny, little cause for all of this suffering and disease. It’s a joke on the doctors, but nobody is laughing.



Here’s how it works. Normal cells that turn cancerous have specific jobs to do. Brain cells do brainy things, heart cells are on a bungee-jumper’s rush, liver cells strain today’s whiskey, kidney cells strain the beer and save the water, bladder cells hold the nasty stuff that the others strain, and skin cells enjoy a good suntan on a summer day. They all do different jobs. But when they turn cancerous, they throw all of that specialization aside.


Cancer cells do not evolve; they devolve. They do not perform the task specified in the blueprints of DNA, but they rebel and go it alone. Cancer cells give up being a high level technical worker in the body and become instead the lowest form of life. Worse than any truant teenager – all they do all day is eat, excrete, reproduce and do it all while holding their breath. While holding their breath? What is this little detail that is overlooked by the oncologists?


That’s right. Cancer cells don’t require a lot of oxygen to live. In fact, it is this low oxygen level that allows them to thrive. Or to put it in a way that even a physician can understand: Cancer cells become cancerous not because they are the disease but because they are normal cells reacting to the causative factors of disease. That is, cancer cells become cancer cells because they are normal cells that cannot live in any other way. They are following the First Commandment of Life: “Thou must live”. And in order for them to live, they must give up their specific functions in the body and devolve to a lower level of Life that is not so demanding of them. They become cancer cells in order to survive, not because they want to be cancer cells.


From this perspective you can say that cancer is normal. It is not a disease but rather it is the reaction of certain cells in the body to stress factors that cause these cells to choose de-evolution to a cancerous state as a means of cellular survival. They give up being highly advanced cells – brain, heart, liver, kidney, skin, etc. – and take a step downward to a lower function. They become cancerous as a survival strategy because nature only gives them this choice – or they must die. Cancer is the reaction of cells to various factors that will cause their death if they do not devolve to a lower, cancerous state.


Of course, the Big Pharma scoundrels and the physicians-for-hire want to “treat” cancer. Yes, they have devised a trillion “treatments” none of which do any good except to their bank accounts. There is a lot of money in “treatments”. You can talk about “treatments” for years. You can offer your customers … I mean, your “patients” … years and years of the latest and greatest of treatments. Treatments! Treatments! Treatments! Forever! And all of this time, while the victims are suffering and dying and giving the hospitals their last pennies in vain, the doctors can avoid ever, ever mentioning that most forbidden word of modern medicine – “cure”. And why? Because if they actually cure anyone of cancer, then they can’t get them back for any more treatments!


And yet, cancer is easily cured with nothing more complicated than baking soda. But before telling you how this is done, I want to review something that the Johns Hopkins Hospital has stolen from the alternative medical professionals. They sent out a newsletter in 2007 that has also been circulated by the Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Although their newsletter did not credit any alternative health practitioners or natural healing groups as to the source for their information, it was gratifying to see that what Naturopaths have been saying for over seventy years is finally being acknowledged by the swindlers of the Medical Monopoly. I will briefly review the main points of this newsletter below so that you Naturopathic Health experts and you idiots in the entrenched Medical Monopoly are all using the same language when you yell at each other.


All naturopaths already know these things but because it was new to the physicians and oncologists, here briefly is what the Johns Hopkins Hospital newsletter stated:

1. “Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells.

3. “Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soy milk cancer cells are being starved.”

5. “Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.”

6. “A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).”

7. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer-fighting properties. Water – best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic. Avoid it.”

8. “Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines become putrefied and leads to more toxic buildup.”

9. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.

10. “Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6 , Flor-ssence , Essiac , anti-oxidants , vitamins , minerals , EFAs, etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.”

11. “Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor. Anger, un-forgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment.

13. “Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.”


And this ends the good advice that the Johns Hopkins Hospital tosses out … then forgets entirely about. Although they make some basic errors with their assertions because they don’t really understand natural nutrition, it does contain almost everything that naturopaths of all varieties have been practicing and teaching for many years. But it does not give credit where credit is due. The physicians purloin our knowledge and take it for their own discovery and then they bill their patients for the information that we freely give while pretending to be physicians of great learning. And so, let’s leave these medical maniacs and show how cancer is easily cured with nothing more than baking soda. You will need the above ten points to put the puzzle together. And I will leave you and the physicians to argue about the above data which they have plagiarized without fully understanding.

The newsletter makes much of the importance of avoiding acidic and seeking alkaline but they do not know how to put two-and-two together to make any sense out of the information that they have stolen from us. They do not understand the cheap and easy and effective Naturopathic Way because they follow the fraudulent and profitable and expensive way of symptomatic medicine.

One of the much-overlooked “minor” details of cancer cells is that they thrive in a low oxygen environment. When the body is not able to fully oxygenate, these cells must either die of asphyxiation and toxic build-up or they must devolve to a lower state of existence where they can live and grow without so much oxygen. They become cancerous because there is not enough oxygen for them to remain normally functioning.

In point #1, above, the physicians rightfully state that cancerous cells feed on sugar. Actually, all cells feed on glucose. They absolutely do not seem to understand the difference between what glucose and sucrose do to the blood. What the physicians are missing is that the sucrose table sugar, the white flour products, the red meats, dairy products, coffee, candy and soda pop that the hospital provides from the hospital kitchen and from the Coke and candy machines on every floor, are bad enough on their own. These are the junk foods that the patients, themselves, got sick on. What the physicians do not understand is the blood chemistry that these junk foods unbalance. Yes, they take the necessary chemical tests. But they do not understand their own data because they are looking for a complicated treatment when the simple cure is staring them in the face.

Everybody knows how to stick a toy balloon on the wall after rubbing it on your head. It will stick tightly during dry weather but maybe not at all during damp weather. This is because the electro-static charge is strong during dry weather but gets leaked away during damp weather. Well, the same principle applies to how oxygen sticks to the blood cells during oxygenation, but in an ionic fluid instead of in an electrostatic gas.

As blood cells pass through the lungs, there is a very delicate balancing act that takes place between their cell surfaces and the ionic charges of the surrounding plasma. As they pass through the lungs, these purple-colored blood cells have the ionic charge that they received when picking up carbon dioxide. In contact with lung oxygen, this charge gets reversed so that the carbon dioxide drops off and the reversed charge attracts and picks up oxygen molecules. As their ionic charge reverses as they pick up a full supply of oxygen and their color changes from purple to red, these oxygenated blood cells are carried along through the body until they get into the vicinity of body cells that have a surplus of carbon-dioxide and need some oxygen. At that point, the ionic charges again reverse as the oxygen drops off and the carbon dioxide is attracted and sticks to the blood cell which once again changes to a purple color and is carried to the lungs. Yin and yang, a changing balance of polarities.

But just like a toy balloon that cannot stick to the wall in wet weather, oxygen cannot stick to a blood cell if the ionic balance of the blood is acidic. This is what the physicians and oncologists are overlooking. Every damned one of them has observed the ringing alarm bell going off but have muffled their ears and closed their eyes because they are looking for some expensive and complicated cure for cancer when both the cause and the cure are actually very simple.

They observe that cancer thrives in an acidic environment but they feed their patients sugar, white flour, red meats, ice cream and cake for dessert at just about every meal. They observe that cancer dies in a high oxygen environment, but they treat their patients to a choice between Coke and Pepsi from the vending machine down the hall. It is either much too simple for them to understand or else they are a witless part of a greedy and voracious conspiracy against the health of all of Mankind. Those are the only two choices, Doctor; take your pick.

The ringing alarm bell that the physicians are overlooking is the blood pH. Every cancer patient that I have ever seen, all without exception, had an acidic blood pH. But while the oncologists are pumping the patient full of chemotherapy, pizzas, pancakes, cokes, ice creams, hamburgers and fries, sweet rolls and jams, followed by radiation and surgery, they are ignoring the fact that cancer thrives in a low oxygen environment.

Oxygen cannot stick to blood cells if the pH of the blood is acidic. And rather than do everything that they can to raise the pH back up to a normal pH of 7.4 so that the blood can function properly, they prefer surgery. All of the advice that they have stolen from naturopathic medicine about “deep breathing” will do them no good at all. You can breath pure oxygen until you catch on fire but if the blood pH is acidic, then the oxygen will not be able to be picked up by the blood cells. It is chemically impossible. The blood must be normal and normal blood has a pH of around 7.4 pH. Any vestigial traces of oxygen that the acid-drenched blood cells manage to pick up are stripped off early by the oxygen-starved cells along the way and never reach the deeper parts of the body where oxygen is most needed. And because the pH is acidic, carbon dioxide also is not transported efficiently and so builds up within the tissues leading both to cell death and to a cell-to-cancer de-evolution for survival.

So, yes, cancer can be cured with ordinary baking soda. Bicarbonate is found in the blood naturally for the very real purpose of neutralizing acids. Therefore, those who want to cure your cancers should first follow the stolen advise found in the above newsletter. Not that the oncologists understand or follow this advice, themselves, but since they stole it from naturopathic medicine at least we can all agree that it is good advice. So, go to the health food stores and change your diet immediately.

But also do this: Take a pinch of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) into your mouth, run it around your teeth and gums with your tongue while being sure to reach into the deepest parts of your gums and teeth and swallow it three times a day – more or less depending on how you feel. Also, drink a glass of water containing a teaspoon of baking soda before going to bed each night. But don’t over do this. Baking soda can kill you if you take too much of it. Take just a little bit and see how it makes you feel. If you feel okay, then take some more. Don’t overdo it but don’t be afraid to experiment. After all, the doctors experiment on you every time you go to see them as they “practice medicine”. So, why not experiment on yourself and save the money and the pain. But by all means change your diet to a natural and alkaline diet. And make baking soda a part of that diet.

The physicians will charge you a lot of money to take a pH test of your blood, but you can start monitoring the pH, yourself, by purchasing some pH test strips from a pharmacy. Test your tongue pH in the morning as well as your urine pH. Practice some yoga or Tai Chi Chuan or other deep breathing exercises and go on long walks to enjoy fresh air and your days on Earth. As your blood pH moves back up to the alkaline side of the chart, your deep breathing will fully oxygenate your blood. The cancer cells cannot survive all of that fresh oxygen so they die. And your T-killer cells, being full of vigor, will kill the cancer cells that remain. It’s as simple as that.

This is not advice that a cancer doctor will give you but it is advice that you can take whether you accept his treatments or not. After all, the normal pH of your blood is 7.4 but if the doctor wants to treat you without regard to what is normal, then maybe you should put yourself in Nature’s hands rather than his. If cancer is normal, then it would be normal for everybody to have cancer. But since it is not normal and since it thrives in situations that are not normal, then doesn’t it make sense to seek the things that are normal so that the cancer just disappears? A physician or oncologist who ignores the pH of your blood and does not know how to make it normal once again, is not qualified to be treating you in any way whatsoever. Avoid such physicians for the idiots that they are.

And whoops, oh dear! I am afraid that tooth decay is also cured with this simple remedy because baking soda kills decay-causing germs on contact. Will the purveyors of toothbrushes and pastes and drilling and filling and billing be pleased? No, those greedy betrayers and swindlers will not be pleased at all. They want you to be sick. But the sweet, happy smile of good health is the natural state of Mankind.

[pureheart]

llogan thankyou so much for this thread. I knew about some of the information already but I love the simple way that you put it all together so that even a layman such as myself can understand it.

After reading your posts this morning I have poured my coffee down the drain and am now sipping on a glass of water with lemon. :)

You have inspired me to get off my lazy backside and start juicing.

Interestingly, most of the foods you list as acidic are the ones that my body cannot tolerate anyway - wheat, dairy etc. My body obviously knows better what is good for it than I do. :)

Thanks again. Stay well x

[pureheart]

Just one more thing. You mentioned how cancer feeds on sugar - I have always found it incomprehensible why oncologists do not advise their patients to avoid alcohol when they have had cancer.

A friend of a friend had breast cancer. She was quite young and when in remission she was still drinking strong spirits regularly. The cancer came back and she died. I always felt that the alcohol had a lot to do with her body's inability to fight the cancer. Another friend had ovarian cancer and continued to drink wine. The cancer returned.

I can understand the urge to drink in order to deal with the trauma of having cancer, but I think it is terribly detrimental to succumb to it. :(

[llogun]

Just one more thing. You mentioned how cancer feeds on sugar - I have always found it incomprehensible why oncologists do not advise their patients to avoid alcohol when they have had cancer.

A friend of a friend had breast cancer. She was quite young and when in remission she was still drinking strong spirits regularly. The cancer came back and she died. I always felt that the alcohol had a lot to do with her body's inability to fight the cancer. Another friend had ovarian cancer and continued to drink wine. The cancer returned.

I can understand the urge to drink in order to deal with the trauma of having cancer, but I think it is terribly detrimental to succumb to it. :(

Hi pure heart yes when a person gets cancer, the cells turns anerobic which means they are not feeding off oxegen anymore but they still need to feed off of something which is suger. This gives the cancer the energy to live and grow.When a person as chemo, the doctors gives the patiance high energy drinks and are told you can eat what you like. death sentence

[pureheart]

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[trix]

Great thread, just wondering if anyone took apple cider vinegar to help get rid of their cancer?

I heard about the baking soda cure, and think it's quite promising. Honestly, anything that big pharma doesn't like sounds good to me. Of course they would try to discredit anyone trying to say something cheap and natural could cure cancer. They make billions off of sick people.

But apple cider vinegar seems like something worth trying. I try to drink it everytime I shower since I use it as a conditioner, but I'm not religious about it, I always take a shot of it and it makes me gag. lol. It's great conditioner, by the way!! Baking soda as shampoo and then apple cider conditioner twice a week.... sounds weird but my hair is glorious now.

http://www.articlealley.com/article_109841_23.html

Thoughts?