View Full Version : Video of Popal Freemason Handshake
bgrade_actor
26-09-2008, 02:49 AM
Anyone see this before? If you spin through to 2:06 you will see Pope Paul VI give a jewish leader a freemason handshake!:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6LKnX3CWeI
It's no surprise to met that influential Jewish people would be in the Illuminati or Freemason camp. But I was aware of the Pope John Paul being Freemason (his entire burial was masonic right down to the shape of the coffin).
hw spartan
26-09-2008, 04:58 AM
Wolves in Lambs clothing...
...the Catholic church\system\way. WOLVES in lambs clothing
they will Baa baa here, they will baa baa there
but in reallity
there growling and snangring and biteing at each other,
like a pack off lost hungry wolves.
hahaha they make me LMAO
;)
barney_rubble
26-09-2008, 06:52 PM
Anyone see this before? If you spin through to 2:06 you will see Pope Paul VI give a jewish leader a freemason handshake!:eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6LKnX3CWeI
Close but no cigar.
It was a handshake - but it was not masonic.
corsig
27-09-2008, 07:17 PM
I find a very close line on this forum between anti masonry and antisemitism
Coincidence I don't think so
keystone
29-09-2008, 11:17 AM
Anyone see this before? If you spin through to 2:06 you will see Pope Paul VI give a jewish leader a freemason handshake!:eek:
Well It may LOOK masonic but I can't tell if it is or not. How can you be so sure? Anyway it looks to me like the other guy is either Greek or Eastern Orthodox. How do you know he's Jewish?
hw spartan
29-09-2008, 03:37 PM
Well It may LOOK masonic but I can't tell if it is or not. How can you be so sure? Anyway it looks to me like the other guy is either Greek or Eastern Orthodox. How do you know he's Jewish?
He aint Orthodoxm note other two next to him clearly aint orthodox.
so why would he be only 1, Greek he aint(Greek priest only met resently for 1st time,that tape looks old) also im not saying hes Jewish.
the hand shake i cant tell:cool:
rydeon
30-09-2008, 12:27 AM
Close but no cigar.
It was a handshake - but it was not masonic.
Yup, and it was a lousy video with a brain washing nasely-voice whining away like a drone.
Not a good link.
bgrade_actor
30-09-2008, 06:12 AM
The handshake is absolutely freemason if you think it ain't then I suggest you do some research. There's a photo of Ron Paul doing the same one on the other thread.
As for whether the other guy is Jewish, happy to stand corrected on that one.
krakhead
30-09-2008, 09:33 AM
At best a 2nd degree handshake
speculative
30-09-2008, 12:40 PM
The handshake is absolutely freemason if you think it ain't then I suggest you do some research. There's a photo of Ron Paul doing the same one on the other thread.
Sorry if you think thats ABSOLUTELY FREEMASONIC then you need to do more research yourself, at best just a loose handshake.
whether he was a mason or not, i dont know - and thats for others to work out if they realy want to but that was NOT a masonic grip and if you want to prove something one way or the other, best look for more, because that is no where near conclusive.
bgrade_actor
30-09-2008, 04:13 PM
My source is pretty rock solid. Would you care to explain why it isn't a masonic handshake?
omegasol
30-09-2008, 04:53 PM
My source is pretty rock solid
ah, ok now iīm a believer.....not
Would you care to explain why it isn't a masonic handshake?
Thatīs not how it works buddy. you have to explain why you think this is a masonic handshake.
speculative
30-09-2008, 05:05 PM
because the grip is wrong...duh?!
its plaintly obvious to any mason that it isnt a masonic grip, its just a loose handshake, you cant say that any handshake that isnt "firm" is masonic. because thats not what they are like lol. if they were half the people i meet at work are masons! shame they never tell me or turn up to the meetings i organise! lol
barney_rubble
30-09-2008, 05:50 PM
because the grip is wrong...duh?!
its plaintly obvious to any mason that it isnt a masonic grip, its just a loose handshake, you cant say that any handshake that isnt "firm" is masonic. because thats not what they are like lol. if they were half the people i meet at work are masons! shame they never tell me or turn up to the meetings i organise! lol
Oh and by the way there is no such thing as a "masonic handshake".
Sorry but there isn't - there is something that non-masons call a "masonic handshake" but a handshake it is not.
krakhead
30-09-2008, 09:38 PM
Oh and by the way there is no such thing as a "masonic handshake".
Sorry but there isn't - there is something that non-masons call a "masonic handshake" but a handshake it is not.
Now either Canadian masonry is different, or - you're playing with words, or - you're trying to disinform.
Which is it?
(OMG I just accused someone of being 'disinfo' - I'm so sorry! I hate it when it happens to me! ;))
speculative
30-09-2008, 10:22 PM
haha no your ok not too far off.
the "masonic handshake" does not exist per se.
the term comes from the clasping of hands. that is normally a handshake, however as ancient stone masons did not have the technology for a id card at the time, another system had to be used to allow them into their "union" talks as it were.
at the time the only way they could think of was a certain "grip" which is not a handshake, but a way of proving he is a Mason among other ways. if in ye olden days a discussion was going on amongst masons that was private (ie how much should this job cost?) then to gain admission a certain grip was required as well as other means of identification that would prove you a stone mason and thus allowed to enter the discussion (yes believe it or not in olden days people would try to gain advantage for their employers by infiltrating masons meetings and get a lower price!). the "Masonic handshake" was born by people knowing there was a certain holding of hands that identified a mason but not quite sure what it was.
in brief, officially there is no masonic handshake, but its easy to attribute it as a handshake if thats all you hear it called.
the basic is we use it to identify ourselves (with other aides) if attending a lodge where were not known. of course other Masons may know another history, which i would be very grateful to hear!
bgrade_actor
01-10-2008, 02:44 AM
in brief, officially there is no masonic handshake, but its easy to attribute it as a handshake if thats all you hear it called.
My little green book would suggest otherwise:D They are handshakes with a particular 'grip' that wouldn't be considered conventional for non masons.
barney_rubble
01-10-2008, 07:18 PM
haha no your ok not too far off.
the "masonic handshake" does not exist per se..
the term comes from the clasping of hands.
Bingo -That is where I was coming form.
My little green book would suggest otherwise:D They are handshakes with a particular 'grip' that wouldn't be considered conventional for non masons.
Hmmm - different juristition - different book.
I was taught differently. But I will stop here less I break my obligation.
krakhead
01-10-2008, 07:53 PM
Bingo -That is where I was coming form..
Now why did you present it in such an obtuse way? :confused:
Not that you'd have signed a contract in your own blood or anything, but I thought the masons who are members of this forum had decided to come here to give a balanced view of, and to help dispel myths that have built up around being a member of a masonic lodge.
I, for one, have welcomed the input - I'm in no way saying that you MUST have always presented the truth, but it was nice to get the 'official' masonic version of a story/theory/etc. that was presented here.
And now you've shown yourself to be wilfully obstructive?
Don't you think you may be undoing some of the good work that has been carried out previously?
Sorry if I come across a bit heavy handed here, I'm just wondering why you'd play a cheap hand like that when so many don't trust you as it is?
barney_rubble
01-10-2008, 08:53 PM
Now why did you present it in such an obtuse way? :confused:
Not that you'd have signed a contract in your own blood or anything, but I thought the masons who are members of this forum had decided to come here to give a balanced view of, and to help dispel myths that have built up around being a member of a masonic lodge.
I, for one, have welcomed the input - I'm in no way saying that you MUST have always presented the truth, but it was nice to get the 'official' masonic version of a story/theory/etc. that was presented here.
And now you've shown yourself to be wilfully obstructive?
Don't you think you may be undoing some of the good work that has been carried out previously?
Sorry if I come across a bit heavy handed here, I'm just wondering why you'd play a cheap hand like that when so many don't trust you as it is?
Sorry if I appeared to be "wilfully obstructive", "obtuse" or evasive on this point.
I was not trying to be evasive in anyway whatsoever.
I was just trying to make my point without breaking my obligations.
As I have said before, I will be trueful with my answers on this forum and when I can not answer a question due to my obligations I will let you know that too.
I (we) are walking a fine line with this topic (IMO).
One thing to note here (as I am finding out too) there are different definitions on this point in the various juristictions around the world.
krakhead
01-10-2008, 08:55 PM
Sorry if I appeared to be "wilfully obstructive", "obtuse" or evasive on this point.
I was not trying to be evasive in anyway whatsoever.
I was just trying to make my point without breaking my obligations.
As I have said before, I will be trueful with my answers on this forum and when I can not answer a question due to my obligations I will let you know that too.
I (we) are walking a fine line with this topic (IMO).
One thing to note here (as I am finding out too) there are different definitions on this point in the various juristictions around the world.
Fair point :)
:D
barney_rubble
01-10-2008, 09:06 PM
Sorry if I appeared to be "wilfully obstructive", "obtuse" or evasive on this point.
I was not trying to be evasive in anyway whatsoever.
I was just trying to make my point without breaking my obligations.
As I have said before, I will be trueful with my answers on this forum and when I can not answer a question due to my obligations I will let you know that too.
I (we) are walking a fine line with this topic (IMO).
One thing to note here (as I am finding out too) there are different definitions on this point in the various juristictions around the world.
Fair point :)
:D
That said; I still assert that that was not a, to use the vernacular, "Masonic handshake".
endlessvista
01-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Yup, and it was a lousy video with a brain washing nasely-voice whining away like a drone.
Not a good link.
Yes. The video is total shit on all levels.
keystone
04-10-2008, 09:34 AM
The handshake is absolutely freemason if you think it ain't then I suggest you do some research. There's a photo of Ron Paul doing the same one on the other thread.
Your logic dictates that the moon is ABSOLUTELY made of cheese.
bgrade_actor
04-10-2008, 03:23 PM
Not sure what you mean by that? There is a video there showing the Pope and another religious leader shaking hands in what looks like to be a freemason grip/handshake. If you look at the other thread many other people are doing the same handshake, so it is possible that it is a freemason grip. We can see it and compare it. So it isn't an assumption or speculation. No it doesn't prove the Pope's a mason. However it is not the grip for a conventional handshake.
talulah
04-10-2008, 04:27 PM
That pope and the rest of them are a bunch of beasts.
keystone
04-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Not sure what you mean by that? There is a video there showing the Pope and another religious leader shaking hands in what looks like to be a freemason grip/handshake. If you look at the other thread many other people are doing the same handshake, so it is possible that it is a freemason grip. We can see it and compare it. So it isn't an assumption or speculation. No it doesn't prove the Pope's a mason. However it is not the grip for a conventional handshake.
So you've moved away from it IS ABSOLUTELY a masonic handshake to it looks like one and COULD BE a masonic handshake.
That's exactly what I was saying earler in the thread and so we are in agreement.