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mynameis
24-09-2008, 11:02 PM
UK Lawmaker Seeks to Deny Education to Children Who Aren’t Vaccinated

NaturalNews
Wednesday, Sept 24, 2008

British Labour MP Mary Creagh has proposed forbidding school enrollment to children who have not received the full course of childhood vaccines, turning the current recommendations compulsory.

Writing in the magazine of the Fabian Society, Creagh said that the United Kingdom should use the same sanctions as the United States to make vaccines compulsory, and that schools should be required to verify that all children enrolled have been vaccinated.

In the same issue, public health expert Sir Sandy Macara said that children should not be allowed to receive health benefits unless they are vaccinated.

Vaccination rates have dropped in the United Kingdom recently, after research emerged suggesting that the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) might be linked to autism. While below the government’s target level of 95 percent, 85 percent of children still receive the MMR vaccine.

Both Creagh and Macara said that compulsory vaccination would serve the public good, pushing the United Kingdom toward the 95 percent vaccinated threshold at which incidence of a virus drops so low that the general population acquires a “herd immunity.”

The chair of the British Medical Association, Dr. Hamish Meldrum, blasted the plan as “morally and ethically dubious.”

“A Stalinist approach like this would be likely to backfire on an unprecedented scale and increase opposition to vaccinations,” he said.

“It’s only six months since a big public consultation by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics which we contributed to and they concluded there was no reason to change the voluntary system,” said Jackie Fletcher of the organization Jabs.

“At the same time as this was published in the UK, there was a huge furor in the United States as parents were threatened with hefty fines and jail unless they vaccinated their children before entry into school,” she said. “Is this really the direction we want to go in?”

The government responded to Creagh and Macara’s articles by saying that it has no plans to make vaccination compulsory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/024291.html

beldazar
24-09-2008, 11:14 PM
Hmmm.. 'herd' immunity, says it all really....personally I would rather my kids didnt go to school so BRING IT ON! :mad::mad:

frankanne
24-09-2008, 11:15 PM
UK Lawmaker Seeks to Deny Education to Children Who Aren’t Vaccinated

NaturalNews
Wednesday, Sept 24, 2008

British Labour MP Mary Creagh has proposed forbidding school enrollment to children who have not received the full course of childhood vaccines, turning the current recommendations compulsory.

Writing in the magazine of the Fabian Society, Creagh said that the United Kingdom should use the same sanctions as the United States to make vaccines compulsory, and that schools should be required to verify that all children enrolled have been vaccinated.

In the same issue, public health expert Sir Sandy Macara said that children should not be allowed to receive health benefits unless they are vaccinated.

Vaccination rates have dropped in the United Kingdom recently, after research emerged suggesting that the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) might be linked to autism. While below the government’s target level of 95 percent, 85 percent of children still receive the MMR vaccine.

Both Creagh and Macara said that compulsory vaccination would serve the public good, pushing the United Kingdom toward the 95 percent vaccinated threshold at which incidence of a virus drops so low that the general population acquires a “herd immunity.”

The chair of the British Medical Association, Dr. Hamish Meldrum, blasted the plan as “morally and ethically dubious.”

“A Stalinist approach like this would be likely to backfire on an unprecedented scale and increase opposition to vaccinations,” he said.

“It’s only six months since a big public consultation by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics which we contributed to and they concluded there was no reason to change the voluntary system,” said Jackie Fletcher of the organization Jabs.

“At the same time as this was published in the UK, there was a huge furor in the United States as parents were threatened with hefty fines and jail unless they vaccinated their children before entry into school,” she said. “Is this really the direction we want to go in?”

The government responded to Creagh and Macara’s articles by saying that it has no plans to make vaccination compulsory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/024291.html

If every parent who didn't want their children vaccinated said 'OK, fair enough, we'll home educate'. What do you think the powers that be would do? they'd sh*t their pants, that's what.

they NEED children to go to school to be 'socialised' into their NWO.

If parents cared more about their children, than they do about pleasing 'authority', then the 'powers that be' would have NO POWER AT ALL.

It's time for us all to look to ourselves. And DO THE RIGHT THING, rather than the easy thing, the thing for a quiet life, the thing that 'keeps the peace', but doesn't keep the peace at all, not really. Doing the easiest thing is what has got us in this mess in the first place.

Time to do THE RIGHT THING, even if it isn't easy.

beldazar
24-09-2008, 11:21 PM
Talking of school and kids, on the BBC news today they are offering free school meals in certain areas which may be brought out everywhere. Now lets guess why...could it be because children who have packed lunches arent fingerprinted or is it that the food is riddled with GM food and/or MSG??? :mad:

real6
24-09-2008, 11:21 PM
Id rather just have my child homeschooled and then when hes 16-18 take the GED or SAT or any of those...

steevo
24-09-2008, 11:24 PM
If every parent who didn't want their children vaccinated said 'OK, fair enough, we'll home educate'. What do you think the powers that be would do? they'd sh*t their pants, that's what.

they NEED children to go to school to be 'socialised' into their NWO.

If parents cared more about their children, than they do about pleasing 'authority', then the 'powers that be' would have NO POWER AT ALL.

It's time for us all to look to ourselves. And DO THE RIGHT THING, rather than the easy thing, the thing for a quiet life, the thing that 'keeps the peace', but doesn't keep the peace at all, not really. Doing the easiest thing is what has got us in this mess in the first place.

Time to do THE RIGHT THING, even if it isn't easy.

That's why they are gonna (in my opinion) be bringing in new laws very soon which criminalise parents who "neglect" their kids. Parents who dont get their kids vaccinated will fall under the same umbrella. There are stories EVERYDAY in all mainstream media of kids being neglected by parents. There is an agenda to take kids away from parents. I have told a few of my friends about this (and they have kids). I have told them to watch EVERYDAY for news stories about child neglect and that there is a reason for it. We need to tell parents about this sort of stuff because once you tell them, they will seeing it unfolding everyday WITH THEIR OWN EYES and they will have to believe it THEN.

duckingdafta
24-09-2008, 11:28 PM
mix this with the law just started in California (illegal to homeschool) and we're all going to the camps!. well I am as I am one of those parents.. who have always refused immunizations unless they provide me with a test sample, they refuse the sample so I refuse the jab.

what does it matter if your kid isn't done, if they did catch anything the others are protected aren't they?... or doesn't it work full stop and scared of it coming out?

tracker
24-09-2008, 11:39 PM
UK Lawmaker Seeks to Deny Education to Children Who Aren’t Vaccinated

NaturalNews
Wednesday, Sept 24, 2008

British Labour MP Mary Creagh has proposed forbidding school enrollment to children who have not received the full course of childhood vaccines, turning the current recommendations compulsory.

Writing in the magazine of the Fabian Society, Creagh said that the United Kingdom should use the same sanctions as the United States to make vaccines compulsory, and that schools should be required to verify that all children enrolled have been vaccinated.

In the same issue, public health expert Sir Sandy Macara said that children should not be allowed to receive health benefits unless they are vaccinated.

Vaccination rates have dropped in the United Kingdom recently, after research emerged suggesting that the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) might be linked to autism. While below the government’s target level of 95 percent, 85 percent of children still receive the MMR vaccine.

Both Creagh and Macara said that compulsory vaccination would serve the public good, pushing the United Kingdom toward the 95 percent vaccinated threshold at which incidence of a virus drops so low that the general population acquires a “herd immunity.”

The chair of the British Medical Association, Dr. Hamish Meldrum, blasted the plan as “morally and ethically dubious.”

“A Stalinist approach like this would be likely to backfire on an unprecedented scale and increase opposition to vaccinations,” he said.

“It’s only six months since a big public consultation by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics which we contributed to and they concluded there was no reason to change the voluntary system,” said Jackie Fletcher of the organization Jabs.

“At the same time as this was published in the UK, there was a huge furor in the United States as parents were threatened with hefty fines and jail unless they vaccinated their children before entry into school,” she said. “Is this really the direction we want to go in?”

The government responded to Creagh and Macara’s articles by saying that it has no plans to make vaccination compulsory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/024291.html

if any one tries to stab my child with any instrument , with out my strict permition

i will say it publicly here


i will kill them !:mad:

armoured_amazon
24-09-2008, 11:43 PM
Hmmm.. 'herd' immunity, says it all really....personally I would rather my kids didnt go to school so BRING IT ON! :mad::mad:

You took the words right out of my mouth! :)

21_12_2012
24-09-2008, 11:49 PM
I wont even let my cat have any vaccines...never mind children (if i had any)

jhado
24-09-2008, 11:54 PM
"The government responded to Creagh and Macara’s articles by saying that it has no plans to make vaccination compulsory."

That means they intend to make vaccinations compulsory then.

Bastards. :mad:

homebrew1973
24-09-2008, 11:55 PM
Since when did we have an education system in this country? :confused: There was me thinking it was brainwashing nonsense masquerading as education...

I don`t and can`t have children sadly but if I had any I`d keep them away from school and would certainly forbid any poisons to be stuck into them, they`d be much better off for that in the long term.

adzboarder
25-09-2008, 12:04 AM
So 85% of kids have had the poison, yet the target is 95% - fucks sake aren't they ever satisfied?

There is no way in :mad: HELL :mad: that my children are ever having this shit pumped into them.

kanut
25-09-2008, 06:54 PM
Nature give's us an immune system to exercise, and man made science want's to put it to sleep with man made drug's; mmm, I wonder if anyone's realised that only an abuser want's to make you see the reverse!

antinwo
25-09-2008, 07:56 PM
"The government responded to Creagh and Macara’s articles by saying that it has no plans to make vaccination compulsory."

That means they intend to make vaccinations compulsory then.

Bastards. :mad:

Yes they use double speak:mad: I have not and will not be getting any of my four kids vaccinated even if they take me to the dogs

the littlest hobo
25-09-2008, 08:49 PM
That's why they are gonna (in my opinion) be bringing in new laws very soon which criminalise parents who "neglect" their kids. Parents who dont get their kids vaccinated will fall under the same umbrella. There are stories EVERYDAY in all mainstream media of kids being neglected by parents. There is an agenda to take kids away from parents. I have told a few of my friends about this (and they have kids). I have told them to watch EVERYDAY for news stories about child neglect and that there is a reason for it. We need to tell parents about this sort of stuff because once you tell them, they will seeing it unfolding everyday WITH THEIR OWN EYES and they will have to believe it THEN.

I feel I have failed and neglected my son by letting him get vaccinated, he now has aspergers syndrome and his school life has been one long nightmare. Only one year to go and he's out of there I can't wait.

devanshoom
25-09-2008, 09:03 PM
jeez...its allright saying "i wont let my kids get vaccinated"...but what happens if they start throwing parents in jail for refusing?

fuck....

armoured_amazon
25-09-2008, 09:09 PM
I feel I have failed and neglected my son by letting him get vaccinated, he now has aspergers syndrome and his school life has been one long nightmare. Only one year to go and he's out of there I can't wait.

You haven't failed or neglected your child, nor have other parents who didn't know enough details before inoculation. Tptb prey on families.

deckard
25-09-2008, 09:09 PM
Good, government schools are just really NWO stooge training grounds anyway, all the vacinations are doing is making kids immune systems less resistant when they become adults, there are even now shots can you believe for the mumps and chicken pox, which are important for kids to catch as it makes their immune systems stronger after wards.

badasscass
25-09-2008, 10:19 PM
its called truancy.
just last week it was all over the news about how they're cracking down on these parents in atlanta.
http://www.cbs46.com/news/17497748/detail.html#-
theres a video link of the mothers getting arrested too

sloppy
03-06-2009, 04:51 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8078500.stm

:/

simmm
03-06-2009, 08:15 AM
"The suggestion is that we ought to consider making a link which in effect would make it compulsory for children to be immunised if they are to receive the benefit of a FREE EDUCATION from the state."

So does this mean that public schoolchildren can be opted out of immunisation??

theuselesseater
03-06-2009, 08:25 AM
3 points here:

1)Stop calling vaccination "immunisation". Just because you have been vaccinated it does not mean you have immunity, numerous cases are documented on this. Indeed the whole so called "Booster" shots are a attempt to cover the fact that vaccinations did not provide immunity.

2)You can shove your state indoctrination where the sun don’t shine, I cannot think of anything better for children - No vaccinations & no school - yay

3)F*uck off, just f*ck off

Rant over...:D

yozhik
03-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Fucking BBC is up to its usual trick of disinformation and fearmongering.
Australia does NOT have compulsory vaccination or an exclusion policy from schools for children who have not been poisoned by vaccines.

A parent can simply fill in a "conscientious objection" certificate instead of a "vaccination certificate; job done.

http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/australia.htm

For a publicly funded news source, the BBC is disgustingly woeful.
Defenitiely NOT "value for money".
On par with the recent expenses fraud.

wakeupworld
03-06-2009, 10:49 AM
A very disgusting article and proving once again what a dangerous propaganda machine the BBC really is.
Has to be about time we developed a network of people making copies of films, such as `The Truth About Vaccinations` and start handing them to the general public.

tyler
03-06-2009, 10:52 AM
The BBC is run by Khazars. What do you expect?

grenadene
03-06-2009, 10:58 AM
Fucking BBC is up to its usual trick of disinformation and fearmongering.
Australia does NOT have compulsory vaccination or an exclusion policy from schools for children who have not been poisoned by vaccines.

A parent can simply fill in a "conscientious objection" certificate instead of a "vaccination certificate; job done.

http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/australia.htm

For a publicly funded news source, the BBC is disgustingly woeful.
Defenitiely NOT "value for money".
On par with the recent expenses fraud.

We don't have an awareness of our constitution in the UK, unlike 'newer' societies like the US and Australia. We haven't had a fight for freedom and independence and we certainly haven't written it down it's key points for reference so we're not sure what it looks like.

We have been kept as pets for centuries and wouldn't recognise personal liberty if they accidentally slipped it up the wrong hole!

sukyspook
03-06-2009, 11:55 AM
3 points here:

1)Stop calling vaccination "immunisation". Just because you have been vaccinated it does not mean you have immunity, numerous cases are documented on this. Indeed the whole so called "Booster" shots are a attempt to cover the fact that vaccinations did not provide immunity.

2)You can shove your state indoctrination where the sun don’t shine, I cannot think of anything better for children - No vaccinations & no school - yay

3)F*uck off, just f*ck off

Rant over...:D

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Especially - NO VACCINE - NO SCHOOL. 'They'll' soon change their mind when folks stop sending their children to their indoctrination centres and thus lose the access to little minds to create their dumbed down sheople.

The gig is up.

chaste
03-06-2009, 12:00 PM
They were discussing this on The Wright Stuff and a caller at the end was allowed to make some good points about how scientific findings had been shown to be wrong before, but they ran out of time just after she'd mentioned the toxins in them.

It seems like injecting things that shouldn't be in your body isn't a good idea but are there good points to vaccines? That is to say, do they help prevent the spread of disease but a price, or is it the difference that is attributed to vaccines down to other factors like having a better standard of living, cleaner water, cleaner environments, greater knowledge, etc.?

drhemp
03-06-2009, 12:09 PM
I wouldn't give my kids the MMR. I don't believe a word when they say it's safe. It's full of toxins and totally unnecessary. The reasons they push is to boost the profits of Big Pharma and to play with our children's immune systems to create more complications in later life.

The evidence is out there that vaccinations are not good. Dr Len Horowitz gave a very good presentation at the AV2 conference last week talking about this.

I read last year the Fabian Society had called for compulsory MMR jabs. How these people can claim they believe in individual freedoms when they want to take away a parent's right to choose?

brainfreeze
03-06-2009, 12:34 PM
They were discussing this on The Wright Stuff and a caller at the end was allowed to make some good points about how scientific findings had been shown to be wrong before, but they ran out of time just after she'd mentioned the toxins in them.

It seems like injecting things that shouldn't be in your body isn't a good idea but are there good points to vaccines? That is to say, do they help prevent the spread of disease but a price, or is it the difference that is attributed to vaccines down to other factors like having a better standard of living, cleaner water, cleaner environments, greater knowledge, etc.?

I watched it too, and Wright picked up on something too regarding choice. If the governement wants to enforce immunisation the public should be given the choice of doing it all in one, as with the MMR, or the individual jabs which don't seem to have the autism side effect attached to it as the MMR does.

curtaincat
03-06-2009, 01:39 PM
I think this article tells the truth about vaccinations and crap. tptb want to destroy our immune systems.

http://www.ascentofhumanity.com/chapter5-9.php

lynfowars
03-06-2009, 04:11 PM
Someone asked, do some of these 'vaccines' ever really prevent some diseases?

Well yes of course, some clearly do.

HOWEVER (yes here it comes..)

The added ingredients like mercury and god-knows-what-else do us real harm. Cancers and autism are almost certainly caused by these vile chemicals. Intentionally.

People need to understand: The elite master-race, speaking as 'the state' (here and in other countries) has no use whatsoever for the retired and non-working. They want us to be happy and healthy little worker-bees, but they do not want us drawing benefits or pensions when we retire. Indeed, they would be delighted if they could limit our lives so we die off just before the end of our working lives.

There is no logical reason why anyone can argue that this is not the way things are.

Don't be fooled by apparent contradictions to the eugenics plan -they are just red-herrings to keep us thinking they care.

For example fluoride, nice teeth (pulbic intention) - but brain & organ disease and cell damage (real reason).

Vaccines - public reason stop 'disease-x', real reason - introduce mercury into the body (accummulates each jag) and hidden carcigens.

Free flue shots for elderly - public reason 'we care' - real reason - they CAUSE more fcking flu than they cure and we dispose of a few more pensioners each season and help mix some new flu's into the biosphere.

By their own admissions, an elderly population cannot be sustained by a far lower percentage who work -the money does not share out far enough.

So be very careful when you take your 'beneficial' vaccines or mercury or fluoride....because they are soft killing you and you can't even see them coming. But at least you won't catch certain diseases and your nice teeth will impress the undertakers when they stuff your mouth with cotton wool 30 years early.

That's a poor trade-off for an artificially limited life.

Fight this with all your might. The man who is calling for 'mandatory' poisoning of children is a eugenicist. A smiling assassin Josef Mengele himself would be proud of. He needs the same treatment another 'enlightened' USA-based doctor recently got. I won't say any more to stay legal.

Time for our war cry to be heard:

http://worshippingchristian.org/images/dont_tread_on_me.jpg

apekteina lordosis
03-06-2009, 04:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8080131.stm


Page last updated at 03:25 GMT, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 04:25 UK

Macara: 'MMR should be compulsory'

A former chairman of the British Medical Association is calling for the MMR jab to be made compulsory.

Public health expert Sir Sandy Macara believes children should not be able to go to school unless they have been vaccinated.

He has submitted a motion for debate at the annual BMA conference later this month.

Uptake of the MMR vaccine fell sharply after controversial research wrongly linked it to a raised risk of autism.


this is what sir sandy macara looks like...
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45859000/jpg/_45859567_macaraposter.jpg

ya know just for future reference in case his idea of no school unless vaccinated comes to pass.

lynfowars
03-06-2009, 04:49 PM
There seems to be two threads on this subject.

Can they be merged dear mods?

This story is just so off-the-scale huge, I really am lost for words :(

ronisron
03-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Combine "your child must be vaccinated to go to school" with "home schooling is no longer legal", throw in a dash of " failing to vaccinate your child puts them and others at risk and this is akin to negelct and child abuse" add a few parts of " some of your neighbors are paid to watch for the shortcomings of others and report to the proper authorities" :eek:

Things are going to come to an head in a very short time -- all over the UK, Australia/New Zealand and North America. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of them all of the time -- no way. They are trying to jam too much down our throats in too short a time and it's going to backfire.

lynfowars
03-06-2009, 05:10 PM
Combine "your child must be vaccinated to go to school" with "home schooling is no longer legal", throw in a dash of " failing to vaccinate your child puts them and others at risk and this is akin to negelct and child abuse" add a few parts of " some of your neighbors are paid to watch for the shortcomings of others and report to the proper authorities" :eek:

Things are going to come to an head in a very short time -- all over the UK, Australia/New Zealand and North America. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of them all of the time -- no way. They are trying to jam too much down our throats in too short a time and it's going to backfire.

I agree with that 100%.

It is becoming very in-your-face claustrophobic isn't it?

ronisron
03-06-2009, 05:33 PM
I agree with that 100%.

It is becoming very in-your-face claustrophobic isn't it?

Absolutely. I read something outrageous everyday, be it from the UK, Australia, the US, or in my own "country". It's getting to the point where everyone is noticing these things and using their own common sense to put 2 and 2 together. It's not just "people who read David Icke/Alex Jones/_______" or "conspiracy theorists" who see this unfolding. They've just made it too obvious -- there is a connected group of people at a worldwide government level who are enacting a plan to destroy our current way of life, at the very least.

-Forced innoculations against manmade or phony illnesses
-A bogus, ongoing terror threat
-Rise in police brutality and community policing
-Staged economic collapse all over the world
-Removing of parent's rights to their children, be it education or medicine
-Replacing natural foods with GM crops
- ... and the list is growing, exponentially, almost daily.

They're overloading a pot that's already boiling over.

decim
03-06-2009, 05:36 PM
MMR is just one aspect of "their" program.

"Thirty years ago, children received a total of four vaccines, but today a fully vaccinated child receives a whopping 37-50 vaccines during the early, formative years of life, when his developing immune system is most vulnerable. Even an adult immune system would be challenged by so many vaccines given during such a short period of time."

http://www.westonaprice.org/children/vaccinations.html

Of course imported diseases are nothing to do with it.

decim
03-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Pity they don't deny the diseases entry to the UK at their point of origin, The Airports!

theuselesseater
03-06-2009, 05:48 PM
Guess I'll cross post this from the other thread:)
http://i41.tinypic.com/281y8uc.jpg

TUE - Jason...

gilly
03-06-2009, 05:57 PM
Merged the 2 threads. :)

decim
03-06-2009, 06:13 PM
That is useful image of information Jason, have you got a link to online data?

informationx
03-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Who is this fucker called sandy macara? I didn't vote for the nob head. Seems he's part of the Fabians wine and cheese mornings, where they talk about the way they would like to shape society.

Some of the talks there are sponsored by Sanofi Pasteur etc. And many members of the JVCI have grants etc supplied by Pharma interests.

Compulsory means Forced of course. Arrogant sons of bitches.

By they way you have protection against such measures.

SECTION 1 HUMAN RIGHTS AND LEGAL ISSUES

Compulsive medication and human rights

EU Definition of a medicine

Ref (1): http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32004L0027:EN:HTML

Directive 2004/27/EC as of 31 March 2004

2. Medicinal product:

(a) "Any substance or combination of substances presented as having properties for treating or preventing disease in human beings; or"

(b) "Any substance or combination of substances which may be used in or administered to human beings either with a view to restoring, correcting or modifying physiological functions by exerting a pharmacological, immunological or metabolic action, or to making a medical diagnosis."


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The right to withdraw consent at any time

Ref (2): http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/164.htm

Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Dignity of the Human Being with regard to the Application of Biology and Medicine: Convention on Human Rights and Biomedicine.

Chapter 2 Consent

Article 5 - General rule

"An intervention in the health field may only be carried out after the person concerned has given free and informed consent to it."

"This person shall beforehand be given appropriate information as to the purpose and nature of the intervention as well as on its consequences and risks."

The person concerned may freely withdraw consent at any time."


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Guaranteed by law

Ref (3): http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/164.htm

Chapter I – General provisions

Article 1 – Purpose and object

"Parties to this Convention shall protect the dignity and identity of all human beings and guarantee everyone, without discrimination, respect for their integrity and other rights and fundamental freedoms with regard to the application of biology and medicine."

"Each Party shall take in its internal law the necessary measures to give effect to the provisions of this Convention."

chaste
03-06-2009, 09:11 PM
Someone asked, do some of these 'vaccines' ever really prevent some diseases?

Well yes of course, some clearly do.

HOWEVER (yes here it comes..)

The added ingredients like mercury and god-knows-what-else do us real harm. Cancers and autism are almost certainly caused by these vile chemicals. Intentionally.

People need to understand: The elite master-race, speaking as 'the state' (here and in other countries) has no use whatsoever for the retired and non-working. They want us to be happy and healthy little worker-bees, but they do not want us drawing benefits or pensions when we retire. Indeed, they would be delighted if they could limit our lives so we die off just before the end of our working lives.

There is no logical reason why anyone can argue that this is not the way things are.

Don't be fooled by apparent contradictions to the eugenics plan -they are just red-herrings to keep us thinking they care.

For example fluoride, nice teeth (pulbic intention) - but brain & organ disease and cell damage (real reason).

Vaccines - public reason stop 'disease-x', real reason - introduce mercury into the body (accummulates each jag) and hidden carcigens.

Free flue shots for elderly - public reason 'we care' - real reason - they CAUSE more fcking flu than they cure and we dispose of a few more pensioners each season and help mix some new flu's into the biosphere.

By their own admissions, an elderly population cannot be sustained by a far lower percentage who work -the money does not share out far enough.

So be very careful when you take your 'beneficial' vaccines or mercury or fluoride....because they are soft killing you and you can't even see them coming. But at least you won't catch certain diseases and your nice teeth will impress the undertakers when they stuff your mouth with cotton wool 30 years early.

That's a poor trade-off for an artificially limited life.

Fight this with all your might. The man who is calling for 'mandatory' poisoning of children is a eugenicist. A smiling assassin Josef Mengele himself would be proud of. He needs the same treatment another 'enlightened' USA-based doctor recently got. I won't say any more to stay legal.

Time for our war cry to be heard:

http://worshippingchristian.org/images/dont_tread_on_me.jpg

Thanks for this, lynfowars. The things I've read concern me but I'm also trying to get a comprehensive picture so I'm not blinded by science if someone tries to argue the other side, although theuselesseater's statistics seem to speak for themselves.

kblood
03-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Hmmm.. 'herd' immunity, says it all really....personally I would rather my kids didnt go to school so BRING IT ON! :mad::mad:

lol true. Say no to vaccine, and you wont have to put your kids through school either. Not having all kinds of diseases injected to your kids and not having them brainwashed at the same time. Much better off homeschooled anyway, the only problem would be lack of social stuff to do, but a hobby would probably solve that.

I guess the ptb is in a giving mood these days. Next: Stop paying taxes and you will be forced not to pay tv license either. Try paying it and they will just refund it right in your face! Hillarious. I really do hope its a new trend on their part.

dude111
03-06-2009, 10:36 PM
If every parent who didn't want their children vaccinated said 'OK, fair enough, we'll home educate'. What do you think the powers that be would do? they'd sh*t their pants, that's what.EXACTLY RIGHT........ Then they would have to think of something else.....

siriusc
03-06-2009, 10:54 PM
They're making it more difficult to home school your children in the US. What next? The government has violated every aspect of our lives and screwed things up. We really need to come up with a better system.

dude111
04-06-2009, 02:31 AM
That is useful image of information Jason, have you got a link to online data?Very usefull indeed!

lizzy
04-06-2009, 04:07 AM
So 85% of kids have had the poison, yet the target is 95% - fucks sake aren't they ever satisfied?

There is no way in :mad: HELL :mad: that my children are ever having this shit pumped into them.

Seems not .......Those who are'nt will be the children with aware parents......are'nt those exactly the ones they want to vaccinate the most and mess with those parents via Child 'Protective' Serv's .......:mad:

Those who have opted for home schooling are finding that more and restrictive....But you folks know all this. No-one and nothing is spared, their attacks are full out....

There is a trade in falsified shot records....I would be looking for some of those papers.

chaste
05-06-2009, 12:39 AM
Dear God! Will wonders never cease? The only person on the Question Time panel to concede that there might be a link between MMR and autism, based on what she'd heard from parents she knew, is blooming Fiona Phillips. It was a bit frightening. There didn't seem to be any answers for the woman in the audience who'd suffered serious complications as a result of vaccination and reference to doctors who'd questioned the official line seemed contemptuous.
From this, I could quite easily see the general public turning on people who refuse vaccinations.

apekteina lordosis
05-06-2009, 07:56 PM
Dear God! Will wonders never cease? The only person on the Question Time panel to concede that there might be a link between MMR and autism, based on what she'd heard from parents she knew, is blooming Fiona Phillips. It was a bit frightening. There didn't seem to be any answers for the woman in the audience who'd suffered serious complications as a result of vaccination and reference to doctors who'd questioned the official line seemed contemptuous.
From this, I could quite easily see the general public turning on people who refuse vaccinations.

think about it. some of the kids at a school will have had the mmr jab, some wouldn't. how could those who hadn't had it be a health risk to those that have? that is what is so stupid about the ex-chair of the bma suggesting kids who aren't jabbed be banned from school- if there was a measles outbreak, only those that hadn't had the jab would be at risk of infection...

kiwimaj
06-06-2009, 11:41 PM
if every parent who didn't want their children vaccinated said 'ok, fair enough, we'll home educate'. What do you think the powers that be would do? They'd sh*t their pants, that's what.

They need children to go to school to be 'socialised' into their nwo.

If parents cared more about their children, than they do about pleasing 'authority', then the 'powers that be' would have no power at all.

It's time for us all to look to ourselves. And do the right thing, rather than the easy thing, the thing for a quiet life, the thing that 'keeps the peace', but doesn't keep the peace at all, not really. Doing the easiest thing is what has got us in this mess in the first place.

Time to do the right thing, even if it isn't easy.


very well said !!!
;)

kiwimaj
06-06-2009, 11:48 PM
someone asked, do some of these 'vaccines' ever really prevent some diseases?

Well yes of course, some clearly do.

However (yes here it comes..)

the added ingredients like mercury and god-knows-what-else do us real harm. Cancers and autism are almost certainly caused by these vile chemicals. Intentionally.

People need to understand: The elite master-race, speaking as 'the state' (here and in other countries) has no use whatsoever for the retired and non-working. They want us to be happy and healthy little worker-bees, but they do not want us drawing benefits or pensions when we retire. Indeed, they would be delighted if they could limit our lives so we die off just before the end of our working lives.

There is no logical reason why anyone can argue that this is not the way things are.

Don't be fooled by apparent contradictions to the eugenics plan -they are just red-herrings to keep us thinking they care.

For example fluoride, nice teeth (pulbic intention) - but brain & organ disease and cell damage (real reason).

Vaccines - public reason stop 'disease-x', real reason - introduce mercury into the body (accummulates each jag) and hidden carcigens.

Free flue shots for elderly - public reason 'we care' - real reason - they cause more fcking flu than they cure and we dispose of a few more pensioners each season and help mix some new flu's into the biosphere.

By their own admissions, an elderly population cannot be sustained by a far lower percentage who work -the money does not share out far enough.

So be very careful when you take your 'beneficial' vaccines or mercury or fluoride....because they are soft killing you and you can't even see them coming. But at least you won't catch certain diseases and your nice teeth will impress the undertakers when they stuff your mouth with cotton wool 30 years early.

That's a poor trade-off for an artificially limited life.

Fight this with all your might. The man who is calling for 'mandatory' poisoning of children is a eugenicist. A smiling assassin josef mengele himself would be proud of. He needs the same treatment another 'enlightened' usa-based doctor recently got. I won't say any more to stay legal.

Time for our war cry to be heard:

http://worshippingchristian.org/images/dont_tread_on_me.jpg

great post, well said !

belladonna
08-06-2009, 06:15 PM
UK Lawmaker Seeks to Deny Education to Children Who Aren’t Vaccinated

NaturalNews
Wednesday, Sept 24, 2008

British Labour MP Mary Creagh has proposed forbidding school enrollment to children who have not received the full course of childhood vaccines, turning the current recommendations compulsory.

Writing in the magazine of the Fabian Society, Creagh said that the United Kingdom should use the same sanctions as the United States to make vaccines compulsory, and that schools should be required to verify that all children enrolled have been vaccinated.

In the same issue, public health expert Sir Sandy Macara said that children should not be allowed to receive health benefits unless they are vaccinated.

Vaccination rates have dropped in the United Kingdom recently, after research emerged suggesting that the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) might be linked to autism. While below the government’s target level of 95 percent, 85 percent of children still receive the MMR vaccine.

Both Creagh and Macara said that compulsory vaccination would serve the public good, pushing the United Kingdom toward the 95 percent vaccinated threshold at which incidence of a virus drops so low that the general population acquires a “herd immunity.”

The chair of the British Medical Association, Dr. Hamish Meldrum, blasted the plan as “morally and ethically dubious.”

“A Stalinist approach like this would be likely to backfire on an unprecedented scale and increase opposition to vaccinations,” he said.

“It’s only six months since a big public consultation by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics which we contributed to and they concluded there was no reason to change the voluntary system,” said Jackie Fletcher of the organization Jabs.

“At the same time as this was published in the UK, there was a huge furor in the United States as parents were threatened with hefty fines and jail unless they vaccinated their children before entry into school,” she said. “Is this really the direction we want to go in?”

The government responded to Creagh and Macara’s articles by saying that it has no plans to make vaccination compulsory.

http://www.naturalnews.com/024291.html

What a load of C***.......................its not an education they give our kids now. Its just several hours a day, 5 days a week, of regurgutated rubbish, from people that believe what they were told to be true from people that believed what they were told to be true, etc, etc.
From experience parents are waking up to this and making positive decisions about their childrens learning/remembering process, and it does not include mainstream education