Hell

[mariag]

Could HELL be a real place?

Back in the old and ancient days it is said that ancient civilization has made catacombs inside a hollow earth. And if we look at some of the old pyramids it is depicted men and spieces digging tunnels . So I figured one day that that very special place called Hell could actually be a real place very close to where we are .

If these catacombs are real and if the tunnels exist it might be an underground teritory hidden of course and it could be so that sacrifises are being performed without the rest of the world knowing. It could be a possibility that all the missing children are beeing held there in terror and for purpose as creating a portal for when the Anunnaki comes back. No matter what your beliefes are. This could very well be true . How many goes missing every year? And never to be found. And why would they make up a place and make people beleieve in a terrifying place where you burn and anguish in eternity if it was not true?Hell might not be a fiction place with an evil man with the color red. It could be Lizards or humans inside a hollow earth preparing and making all kinds of terrible things.

I would like opinions about this issue .

[mariag]

Please excuse my bad spelling , I am not from an english speaking country :)

[tracker]

well if this is true and inocent people especially children can be taken there to hell , then ?

god has some explaining to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i will rebell against his hipocracy !

[armoured_amazon]

I would imagine if there is a physical hell then it is not on this plane of existence.

[tracker]

well if this is true and inocent people especially children can be taken there to hell , then ?

god has some explaining to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i will rebell against his hipocracy !


i will rebell .

[father ted]

I believe in the hollow Earth theory as well as secret underground caverns, where the archetypal "hell" came from imo. As far as going there if you're bad, well, it looks as though that is coming from the point of view of those that are in power and have been for a long time. Innocent people go there to be punnished because they've done the wrong thing by them.

As far as a real place for punishement, that's earth or a life expeariance somewhere else. Other than that, there might not be an actual hell, why need one when there is life expeariance? Punishement is probably not the right word- retribution.

[mariag]

I would not think that God put it there so I would not blame God for this . I would think that humans or whatever other spieces there might be dug those tunnels and not for good reasons.
I go for the idea that the earth is hollow . Not so long ago people thought that the earth was flat and people that suggested otherwise would be ridiculed until men with excellent acedemical skills said that according to research it was round.
And we all accepted the fact that our earth would be round so why would it not also be hollow?
Just a thought

[mariag]

As far as a real place for punishement, that's earth or a life expeariance somewhere else. Other than that, there might not be an actual hell, why need one when there is life expeariance? Punishement is probably not the right word- retribution.


You have a point , but what if that experience is gained "underground" ?:)

[astrochicken]

Do a search for "Hypogeum" and there's a fine example of a physical HELL

(lat. hypogeum, gr. hypógeion from "hypo" = "under" and "gaia" = " Earth")


I bet that there's a tunnel leading from there to Rome!!!!

[mariag]

Do a search for "Hypogeum" and there's a fine example of a physical HELL


Thank you this was very interesting , and it IS underground as well.
The Hypogeum in Ħal-Saflieni, Paola, Malta, is a subterranean structure excavated c. 2500 B.C. Thought to be originally a sanctuary, it became a necropolis in prehistoric times. It is the only prehistoric underground temple in the world. The Hypogeum was depicted on a 2 cents 5 mils stamp issued in the Maltese Islands in 1980 to commemorate the acceptance by UNESCO of this unique structure in the World Heritage Site list. It was closed to visitors between 1992 and 1996 for restoration works; since it reopened only 80 people per day are allowed entry and there can be a 2-3 weeks wait to get a ticket.

It was discovered by accident in 1902 when workers cutting cisterns for a new housing development broke through its roof. The workers tried to hide the temple at first, but eventually it was found. The study of the structure was first entrusted to Father Manuel Magri of the Society of Jesus, who directed the excavations on behalf of the Museums Committee. Magri unfortunately died in 1907, before the publication of the report. Following Magri's sudden death, excavation resumed under Sir Temi Zammit.

From Wiki

[father ted]

You have a point , but what if that experience is gained "underground" ?:)

Yes, it could happen anywhere. I have been reading up about reincarnation/past life regression, and it seems that it does not matter where you learn your lessons as much as how and the fact that you learn them. I have read about cases where people have done something bad like in one case, there was this guy who killed his own mother when he was a leader/priest of his own tribe in a lifetime thousands of years ago. He is dealing with the consequences in this lifetime it seeems, where as a child, his mother left him at an early age and was adopted to strict parents. He is spending his retribution here on Earth, surface. So do many people it seems.

From what I have read/watched, if a soul has a lifetime in a perticular general enviroment/planet, then it probably means that it will stay in that enviroment for lots of lifetimes. So someone from the hollow part of Earth would be incarnating back there for maybe the whole duration.

[mariag]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Holies.jpg

[mariag]

Yes, it could happen anywhere. I have been reading up about reincarnation/past life regression, and it seems that it does not matter where you learn your lessons as much as how and the fact that you learn them. I have read about cases where people have done something bad like in one case, there was this guy who killed his own mother when he was a leader/priest of his own tribe in a lifetime thousands of years ago. He is dealing with the consequences in this lifetime it seeems, where as a child, his mother left him at an early age and was adopted to strict parents. He is spending his retribution here on Earth, surface. So do many people it seems.

From what I have read/watched, if a soul has a lifetime in a perticular general enviroment/planet, then it probably means that it will stay in that enviroment for lots of lifetimes. So someone from the hollow part of Earth would be incarnating back there for maybe the whole duration.

Makes sence

[astrochicken]

Thank you this was very interesting , and it IS underground as well.

Read on to the "mysterious accounts", the missing school children and the hall filled with caves and "humanoid" creatures....

[mariag]

Read on to the "mysterious accounts", the missing school children and the hall filled with caves and "humanoid" creatures....

I will read everything about this . I think you have found something here

[marpat]

Could HELL be a real place?

Back in the old and ancient days it is said that ancient civilization has made catacombs inside a hollow earth. And if we look at some of the old pyramids it is depicted men and spieces digging tunnels . So I figured one day that that very special place called Hell could actually be a real place very close to where we are .

If these catacombs are real and if the tunnels exist it might be an underground teritory hidden of course and it could be so that sacrifises are being performed without the rest of the world knowing. It could be a possibility that all the missing children are beeing held there in terror and for purpose as creating a portal for when the Anunnaki comes back. No matter what your beliefes are. This could very well be true . How many goes missing every year? And never to be found. And why would they make up a place and make people beleieve in a terrifying place where you burn and anguish in eternity if it was not true?Hell might not be a fiction place with an evil man with the color red. It could be Lizards or humans inside a hollow earth preparing and making all kinds of terrible things.

I would like opinions about this issue .


What you experience within can be reflected into an onjective place, what is within is without. We can experience many evil things within and so these things can be expressed without.

Some Othordox churches have art work that suggests hell is a place of extreme opposite, such as very hot and freezing cold rather than just a hot place. The reason for the standard description of hell could be that it come from a middle eastern religion, the sun in such a place being very powerful and dangerous.

[mariag]

What you experience within can be reflected into an onjective place, what is within is without. We can experience many evil things within and so these things can be expressed without.

Some Othordox churches have art work that suggests hell is a place of extreme opposite, such as very hot and freezing cold rather than just a hot place. The reason for the standard description of hell could be that it come from a middle eastern religion, the sun in such a place being very powerful and dangerous.

Well this also make sense . Its a very interesting subject actually :)

[xpleet]

Many aliens don't have a digestive system like we do, they shred humans appart and put them into large tanks full of human liquids, which they then swim around in and consume it through their skin pores.

Reptilians though seem to like to consume humans all while they're alive, the fear of the victims gives them an extra energy boost + adrenalin and other liquids that get extracted from humans when they are in a panic state.

These are activities indeed going on in underground installations.

We live in a dimension in which we - spirit consciousness are hooked to a brain that is connected to a lot of nerves that are able to torture us through our "lifetimes" so, one could make the reasonable claim that we do indeed live in hell.

[bendoon]

The reason for the standard description of hell could be that it come from a middle eastern religion, the sun in such a place being very powerful and dangerous.

Well it comes from the Roman Catholics which I wouldn't call a middle Eastern religion.

[burnzy]

I believe hell is a state of mind while living in the material world.
In the spiritual world, i'm not sure. I haven't been there.

[mariag]

I made a little investigation about Malta and the Hypogeum and I found this


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HYPOGEUM
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= Hypo = Under or Below , beneath,
Geum =is a genus for plant
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So generally speaking the name Hypogeum is a two word syllable for Beneath or below the plants wich means that it is something that is based underground so again we have underground bases even if it is hell or not it still is located underground .

The Hypogeum has 3 levels and in the second level we have the:

SNAKEPIT
(a 2 metres deep pit which could have been used for either keeping snakes or collecting alms.),

As for the snakepit and a possible link to the reptilian issue ,"Alms or almsgiving exists in a number of religions. In general, it involves giving materially to another as an act of religious virtue. In Abrahamic religions( such as jewish etc and the old sumerian religions), alms are given as charity to benefit the poor. In Buddhism, alms are given by lay people to monks and nuns to nurture laic virtue, merit and blessings and to ensure monastic continuity. The word comes from Old English ælmesse, ælmes, from Late Latin eleemosyna, from Greek eleEmosynE pity, alms, from eleEmOn merciful, from eleos pity."

We also have the:


ORACLE ROOM,
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The Oracle Chamber, where a square niche is cut into the wall, has remarkable acoustics. Deep, usually male, voices reverberate and carry to the far end of the chamber while high pitched female voices seem to have no effect at all. This is believed to be the cavity where the priest-oracle interpreted dreams. It was in these mid-level chambers that the so-called
"Sleeping Priestess" was discovered - small statuette of a female with tiny head and fat body lying on a couch. This and other obese female figures, which can be seen in the archaeological museum in Valletta, suggest some sort of fertility cult.

We have the

DECORATED ROOM
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On the right side wall the entrance is a petrosomatoglyph of a human hand carved into the rock (Agius), (an image of parts of a human or animal body incised in rock.
They were an important form of symbolism, used in religious and secular ceremonies, such as the crowning of kings. Some are regarded as artefacts linked to saints and folklore heroes, such as King Arthur. The word comes from the Greek petros ("stone"), soma ("body"), and glyphein ("to carve"). Feet are the most common; however, knees, elbows, hands, head and fingers are also found.

HOLY HOLLIES,

The chamber known as the "Holy of Holies" reveals traces of red ochre on the walls, red being the colour of blood, sacrifice and death, suggesting that this was both a burial place and a shrine.The focal point of this room is a porthole within a trilithon, which is in turn framed within a larger trilithon and yet another large trilithon.

TRILITHON(a structure consisting of two large vertical stones (posts)
supporting a third stone set horizontally across the top, (TRI= GREEK FOR THREE)AND LITHOS=STONES(lintel))



Petrosomatoglyph - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Other items found in the Hypogeum include pots with abstract decoration, and personal ornaments - such as a necklace, which has been reconstructed, made out of pierced shells and beads.

From the middle level, an ancient and uneven staircase leads down to the lowest set of chambers.
And this is extremely important in my theory about "Hell" and underground based sacrificial activity.

It was here, among the pits and tombs, that the remains of thousands of bodies were unearthed, along with their grave goods.

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http://www.heritagemalta.org/images/coat_of_arms3Ds2.gif

Other interesting links to undergound bases and caves can be found here


The Redbook
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"And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." - REVELATION 5:13

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prediction/51/text-files/redbook/redbookko.html

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[marpat]

Well it comes from the Roman Catholics which I wouldn't call a middle Eastern religion.

The source of the church is the middle east, you know, like Jerusalem. Even Italy can be a hot place.

[manns66]

Being something of a fan of reincarnation, I reckon being here on Earth is the REAL Hell, think of all the misery, persecutions, tortures, wars, pestilences, famines, natural disasters, and may other horrors, mostly man made that afflict us all. So, I reckon that each time we return, we are being sent back to HELL until we begin to learn to treat the Earth and EVERYTHING that lives on it PROPERLY, and then MAYBE we achieve HEAVEN or NIRVANA, and not have to come back again.

Mind You, I,d like someone to REALLY convince me, replies by E.mail please.

[bendoon]

The source of the church is the middle east, you know, like Jerusalem. Even Italy can be a hot place.

No not really hell was invented by the Roman Church, nothing to do with the teachings of Christ in the ME.

[hw spartan]

i was looking at a indoor place of halls and rooms,
the wallls were all black, and tall dark biengs in hoods were floating room to room with books in there hands, i continued to walk.
i herd moanings of extassy in a room and decided to walk in.
in the room were 3 women in hot oil haveing sex not with each other, but unseen things, in the oil.
then a shute opened sucked up the 3 women and another 3 shuted down doing the same, mind you very intense feeling,

i left room
as soon as i exited i saw a person in chains throw to these weird little biengs with clowns faces and very sharp teeth, upon someone throw down, they would apear from no where and start ripping tearing and disembowing the body, and EATING.
i went room to room, with diffrent things in each, so big and vast was the place.
All of a sudden im outside, in a house, with people in classroom fashion faceing 2 angels, i was just walking around the room, the angels where Questioning or inciering details, wierd.
when i looked out sidethe room, all i saw was fire, fire everywhere, at first i thought it was a desert.. when i looked carefully...it was a CITY.. ?
i then got up, made coffee and was freeking out all day:)

[oiram]

Hell is where-ever there is no Truth & Love; that's why it is not gods place because he never created it in the first place!

The ones which have no Truth & Love are living in hell on Earth!

Why everything always has to be so complicated & gets explained with so much diversity?

[marpat]

No not really hell was invented by the Roman Church, nothing to do with the teachings of Christ in the ME.


Funny cos I dont recall christ hanging around Venice or Rome or any other Italian hot spot. The bible stories are centred on the middle east environment regardless of where the book may have been written or invented.

[marpat]

Hell is where-ever there is no Truth & Love; that's why it is not gods place because he never created it in the first place!

The ones which have no Truth & Love are living in hell on Earth!

Why everything always has to be so complicated & gets explained with so much diversity?

Hell must exist within the mind of god. If god has the power to condemn and save it must be within him. If everything exists within god then this must include good and evil and as we are microcosms the same things exist within us.

[manns66]

If, as some Christians are taught, that we are made in Gods Image and Likeness, and IF, as Jesus supposedly said "The Kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU", then does that not by definition make us all GODS, and so therefore, be able to either accept or deny Hell as and when we please and by that same token deny Satan and his (It,s) existence. It might just make a difference if Evil were Laughed at instead of indulged by the weak minded and weak willed, who of course Satan feeds on to carry out His(It,s) evil intentions.

Or maybe its ALL just Hypothetical or a complete load of Bullbagels, and everything just ends in .....................Nothingness!. Hmmmmm!.

[hw spartan]

It might just make a difference if Evil were Laughed at instead of indulged by the weak minded and weak willed, who of course Satan feeds on to carry out His(It,s) evil intentions..

I LMAO at evil all the time
hahahahahaha!!!!!
i havnt stopped LMAO at evil ,ever since i knew what evil was.
hahahahahaha!!!!

BUT.... it doesnt make the evil go away:rolleyes:
hahaha!! :)

[marpat]

If, as some Christians are taught, that we are made in Gods Image and Likeness, and IF, as Jesus supposedly said "The Kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU", then does that not by definition make us all GODS, and so therefore, be able to either accept or deny Hell as and when we please and by that same token deny Satan and his (It,s) existence. It might just make a difference if Evil were Laughed at instead of indulged by the weak minded and weak willed, who of course Satan feeds on to carry out His(It,s) evil intentions.

Or maybe its ALL just Hypothetical or a complete load of Bullbagels, and everything just ends in .....................Nothingness!. Hmmmmm!.

Actually the bible does say we are gods, but you will need to look through the old testament. Remember what happened when Eve ate the apple, she became aware and knew good and evil, which made them like the gods.

We are created in the image of Elohim, which literally means gods in the true translation so if that is our template then we must be as they are.

I thought everything did end in nothingness, a state in which no-thing exists as seperate from anything else. Something is only a 'thing' by viewing with the dualistic mind.

[bendoon]

Funny cos I dont recall christ hanging around Venice or Rome or any other Italian hot spot. The bible stories are centred on the middle east environment regardless of where the book may have been written or invented.

Hell is nothing to do with Christ or the Bible. The Roman Church invented a fiery hell to keep people in line.

[hw spartan]

Hell is nothing to do with Christ or the Bible. The Roman Church invented a fiery hell to keep people in line.

Jesus: The Teacher of Hell

It's primarily from Jesus' words in the New Testament that we've developed most of our notions about hell today, moving us more toward the sense of Gehenna than Hades.

Jesus describes hell as a place of severe judgment, so painful that a person would prefer to lose a bodily part here on earth than have his whole body thrown into such a painful place (Matt. 5:29-30). There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. 8:12; 22:13). Hell, according to Jesus, is a place where (quoting from Isaiah) "their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:48). In the famous "Sheep and Goats" parable, Jesus describes the fate of those who go to Gehenna as "eternal punishment" (Matt. 25:46). In the midst of this punishment, there is also separation from the presence of Christ (Matt. 7:23).

From Jesus' words, we can also discern that hell is not socialist; there will be degrees of punishment, just as in heaven there will be degrees of reward (Mark 12:40, Luke 12:47-48).

Interestingly enough, the only New Testament writer who uses the word Gehenna is Jesus' brother, James (3:6). Paul, Peter, Jude, and John, in continuity with Jesus' teaching, all refer to a day of final judgment (and in Paul's words, it's a day where some will receive "wrath and fury" (Romans 2:8)). None of the New Testament writers speculate much about the exact nature of heaven or hell. Rather, their emphasis is on warning people that wickedness will be punished, and calling all of us to repent accordingly.

It's the fact that Jesus is the primary teacher about hell that led me to state that I was a "fan" of hell. In saying this, I'm not endorsing Dante's version, or the depictions found in medieval art. It's clear, however, that Jesus (and who should know more than He?) describes hell as a real, everlasting place that's extremely unpleasant.
:cool::):cool:

[bendoon]

Gehenna = the valley of Hinnon

The valley of Hinnon was just the city dump.

http://www.equipministry.com/studies/mythhell.htm

Well, I know you are orthodox so I don't wanna start an argument about this. :D

But thats my opinion.

[hw spartan]

This actaully happened
i was looking at a indoor place of halls and rooms,
the wallls were all black, and tall dark biengs in hoods were floating room to room with books in there hands, i continued to walk.
i herd moanings of extassy in a room and decided to walk in.
in the room were 3 women in hot oil haveing sex not with each other, but unseen things, in the oil.
then a shute opened sucked up the 3 women and another 3 shuted down doing the same, mind you very intense feeling,

i left room
as soon as i exited i saw a person in chains throw to these weird little biengs with clowns faces and very sharp teeth, upon someone throw down, they would apear from no where and start ripping tearing and disembowing the body, and EATING.
i went room to room, with diffrent things in each, so big and vast was the place.
All of a sudden im outside, in a house, with people in classroom fashion faceing 2 angels, i was just walking around the room, the angels where Questioning or inciering details, wierd.
when i looked out sidethe room, all i saw was fire, fire everywhere, at first i thought it was a desert.. when i looked carefully...it was a CITY.. ?
i then got up, made coffee and was freeking out all day:)

Gehenna = Well, I know you are orthodox so I don't wanna start an argument about this. :D.

yes, im Orthodox, but i try to follow the old calender as such, well i try:)

[theantisystem]

Is there a Real Hell, I cannot say with certainty. Personally I think it is highly improbable. If there is a hell its even less likely to be in the centre of the earth. The bible also says that 1 John 2:18-22 – He is antichrist that denies Jesus is Christ. So i am the antichrist along with a lot of other people, IF i were to believe any of the "best selling book of all time", haha. A question to any christians out there, how can you rationally accept the bible as gods word?

[zero1]

I believe in Hell. I think it is a place of demons, where suffering and torment and death are immutable facts of existence. I see it as one of the six levels of the Matrix division of reality, albeit the actual place is another plane of existence. (I'm acutely aware talk of other dimensions or planes is at best speculation, but I believe it likely, that's what I mean).

A few posters said if they discovered Hell was real, they would rebel against God. Interesting reaction, that. Do you not think it might be a good thing that God has a place for Evil in the Universe that is NOT EARTH? I mean, we wouldn't want what frequents Hell to be making a home of our world, would we?

Also, as a Buddhist, I do not believe beings who incarnate in Hell stay there for "all eternity". Only until they're negative Karma is abjured or paid off.

[xpleet]

I believe in Hell. I think it is a place of demons, where suffering and torment and death are immutable facts of existence. I see it as one of the six levels of the Matrix division of reality, albeit the actual place is another plane of existence. (I'm acutely aware talk of other dimensions or planes is at best speculation, but I believe it likely, that's what I mean).

A few posters said if they discovered Hell was real, they would rebel against God. Interesting reaction, that. Do you not think it might be a good thing that God has a place for Evil in the Universe that is NOT EARTH? I mean, we wouldn't want what frequents Hell to be making a home of our world, would we?

Also, as a Buddhist, I do not believe beings who incarnate in Hell stay there for "all eternity". Only until they're negative Karma is abjured or paid off.

It's interesting that you are buddhist and claimed to be satan(ist?) multiple times, considering Buddha himself was an incarnation of the Satan entity.

A few posters said if they discovered Hell was real, they would rebel against God.

Tnteresting aswell, if you see that the deities (darkness) who created all this play good and bad at the same time, just like the Karmic system they created, all of which is of their sick game virtual-reality that fortunately now, together with them, totally collapses.

If one in their spirit is a rebel against darkness then their life will be made a hell since the beginning by unseen forces, just like they did with mine and with everyone who the dark-mind thinks it could destroy within.

[zero1]

It's interesting that you are buddhist and claimed to be satan(ist?) multiple times, considering Buddha himself was an incarnation of the Satan entity.

WTF? :confused: I've never claimed to be a Satanist, what are you talking about?

And what, Buddha was an incarnation of Satan? :rolleyes: Ever heard of Lord Mara, the Buddhist equivalent of Satan?

Are you indulging some frankly fucking INSANE version of the Christian myth now? Grow up, read a Bible.

Seriously, that's a libelous statement you've just made. I'm very unhappy. :(

[xpleet]

WTF? :confused: I've never claimed to be a Satanist, what are you talking about?

And what, Buddha was an incarnation of Satan? :rolleyes: Ever heard of Lord Mara, the Buddhist equivalent of Satan?

Are you indulging some frankly fucking INSANE version of the Christian myth now? Grow up, read a Bible.

Seriously, that's a libelous statement you've just made. I'm very unhappy. :(

kay, but

this joke!? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37710

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Xpleet is going to bring in the Big Guns - Amitakh Stanford.

Oh shit...

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I am Satan. I know the archangel Micheal...

I am Satan.

I know the archangel Micheal personally. He's a wuss.

His Daddy told him channelers and spiritualists are baddy evil peeps.

So Michael would never EVER talk to silly channelling...


*edit* found them

I was putting that 'ist' in questionmarks for a reason.
But apparently I don't really know, since you just claimed to be buddhist and in another post by you, in September I just read "But as a Christian, I...",

And what, Buddha was an incarnation of Satan? :rolleyes: Ever heard of Lord Mara, the Buddhist equivalent of Satan?

No, I was refering to the original Buddha. Of course, wasn't asking you to believe.

[zero1]

kay, but

this joke!? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37710

plus a post I'm trying to find again, where you claimed to be Satan (seemed to me atlast) in a serious manner as an answer to question.
But apparently I don't really know, since you just claimed to be buddhist and in another post by you, in September I just read "But as a Christian, I...",



No, I was refering to the original Buddha. Of course, wasn't asking you to believe.

Oh for real! Seriously...:D The "I'm the Devil, ask me a Question" thread is just meant as a joke! C'mon...

As for the Christian bit, I was a Catholic up until I was 33. So sometimes, I feel qualified to talk Christian matters. It'd be difficult to get by here on Icke if one couldn't...

It's the avatar, isn't it? I'm going to change it, I certainly don't like the idea of being called a Satanist for any reason.

Anyway, Xpleet, as regards Buddhism - it's a private thing. I am a lone practitioner. And I'll admit a long period of confusion about my religious identity sometimes leaves its mark in the form of inconsistency. I apologize.

Truth be told, I've as many personal beliefs as Buddhist or Christian. But I am greatly interested in all forms of revelation and knowlege, so I embrace many different sorts. :)

I hope you don't still think I'm evil. :p

best,
Z1

[zero1]

"OFF TOPIC* Briefly...

Hey Xpleet, like my new avatar? Illuminati Satanist now for definite, huh? LOL.

:D:p;)

[xpleet]

I hope you don't still think I'm evil. :p


Let's just say I wouldn't really know since a) a lot of Satanists/Luciferians (as in dark spirit) can also be perfect liars hence I trust nobody and b) I'm not psychic enough to be able to read everyone's spiritual-essence remote-accurately.

I added some quotes in the last post, to clarifie my point there, I take it, that you meant, you said those as jokes aswell.

[zero1]

Let's just say I wouldn't really know since a) a lot of Satanists/Luciferians (as in dark spirit) can also be perfect liars hence I trust nobody and b) I'm not psychic enough to be able to read everyone's spiritual-essence remote-accurately.

I added some quotes in the last post, to clarifie my point there, I take it, that you meant, you said those as jokes aswell.

You've lost me now, and I really don't have time for this. I've answered your accusation when I maybe shouldn't have bothered, if you're mentally ill enough to believe I'm a Satanist, then good luck to you - you're going to need it.

[xpleet]

You've lost me now, and I really don't have time for this. I've answered your accusation when I maybe shouldn't have bothered, if you're mentally ill enough to believe I'm a Satanist, then good luck to you - you're going to need it.

Don't be biased here, I just stated that I don't know and I don't pretend to know anything else about you either, other than that which you stated, which (concerning the Satan thing) you now told me was meant as a joke.
:cool:

I don't always get the funny cause I choose to be this way, rather than getting the funny taking my clarity.

[zero1]

Don't be biased here, I just stated that I don't know and I don't pretend to know anything else about you either, other than that which you stated, which (concerning the Satan thing) you now told me was meant as a joke.

Right.

I don't always get the funny cause I choose to be this way, rather than getting the funny taking my clarity

I understand. Best wishes. :)

[hw spartan]

which (concerning the Satan thing) you now told me was meant as a joke.
:cool:

I don't always get the funny cause I choose to be this way, rather than getting the funny taking my clarity.

Xpleet nice work:)

people like Zero1, where in the corrupt catholic system,as mentioned, so instead of fighting to get rid of them in that system, he became a buhdist, so the wolves continue to stuff up catholism(at least)
even worse, most people change to a diffrent Christianity, when they discover the truths of Vatican...but not here, he bacame a buhdist

i smell foul play here, maybe hes one of....
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/merv/ymca.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)



hahahaha

[zero1]

Xpleet nice work:)

people like Zero1, where in the corrupt catholic system,as mentioned, so instead of fighting to get rid of them in that system, he became a buhdist, so the wolves continue to stuff up catholism(at least)
even worse, most people change to a diffrent Christianity, when they discover the truths of Vatican...but not here, he bacame a buhdist

i smell foul play here, maybe hes one of....
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/merv/ymca.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)



hahahaha

Spartan, nice work - you've proved you're a real thoroughbred idiot. :)

Am I to take it then, that there was a conspiracy to defame and libel me between you and Xpleet?

That could be very bad...for you both, if so. :(

I am not one to be crossed.

Think before you post your stuttering, nonsensical replies full of spelling errors.

I don't need aggravation from the "hyuk-hyuk!" internet Goon Squad, thanks.

[hw spartan]

Spartan, nice work - you've proved you're a real thoroughbred idiot. :)

Am I to take it then, that there was a conspiracy to defame and libel me between you and Xpleet?

That could be very bad...for you both, if so. :(

I am not one to be crossed.

Think before you post your stuttering, nonsensical replies full of spelling errors.

I don't need aggravation from the "hyuk-hyuk!" internet Goon Squad, thanks.

haha please mr mafioso, dont hurt me... now that your a buhdist ex catholic
just becouse you are full of shit, some else other than me let you know
then you threaten me....WTF
hahaha
now you think im cohoots with Xpleet?
man, get off the drugs..at least, just do pot.

quote"I am not one to be crossed."
and i dont like been threatend
even by some peeps like you.

PS; dont you like the "Hell" thread
is this your way of closeing thread, been rude

[zero1]

PS; dont you like the "Hell" thread
is this your way of closeing thread, been rude

No, I quite liked it when eveyone talked ON TOPIC and avoided PERSONAL ATTACKS. But hey, that's just me.

[hw spartan]

No, I quite liked it when eveyone talked ON TOPIC and avoided PERSONAL ATTACKS. But hey, that's just me.

NP... i understand you to the fullest why "Hell" is not a good topic
belive me"Evil and the rest, dont throw themselves in the fire;)"

haha
the warden of hell is amused

hes not the judge....hes just a warden
:eek:

anyways...all good, in post and war...hahaha

[zero1]

NP... i understand you to the fullest why "Hell" is not a good topic
belive me"Evil and the rest, dont throw themselves in the fire;)"

haha
the warden of hell is amused

hes not the judge....hes just a warden
:eek:

anyways...all good, in post and war...hahaha

Yeah.

[xpleet]

Am I to take it then, that there was a conspiracy to defame and libel me between you and Xpleet?

Lol.

This reminds me of a Anti-Zionists vs Anti-Jesuits battle,

but seriously Hw Spartan, you shouldn't feed into the negativity here or what else was that post for?

[hw spartan]

Lol.

This reminds me of a Anti-Zionists vs Anti-Jesuits battle,

but seriously Hw Spartan, you shouldn't feed into the negativity here or what else was that post for?

True... it just makes me wonder:)

[deckard]

The way to hell is forgetting or rejecting what good is.

[lewi]

Could HELL be a real place?

Back in the old and ancient days it is said that ancient civilization has made catacombs inside a hollow earth. And if we look at some of the old pyramids it is depicted men and spieces digging tunnels . So I figured one day that that very special place called Hell could actually be a real place very close to where we are .

If these catacombs are real and if the tunnels exist it might be an underground teritory hidden of course and it could be so that sacrifises are being performed without the rest of the world knowing. It could be a possibility that all the missing children are beeing held there in terror and for purpose as creating a portal for when the Anunnaki comes back. No matter what your beliefes are. This could very well be true . How many goes missing every year? And never to be found. And why would they make up a place and make people beleieve in a terrifying place where you burn and anguish in eternity if it was not true?Hell might not be a fiction place with an evil man with the color red. It could be Lizards or humans inside a hollow earth preparing and making all kinds of terrible things.

I would like opinions about this issue .

Having read this i have to say that yes you are correct and heres some proof that once these tunnels and citys underground were completed they have now filled them full of people to be experimented on.

Hear the sounds of hell a tape recorder was lowered in deep caverns and captured these sounds of hell heres the link

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jql6NyXjA3E


Scary stuff :eek:

[guuna]

I thought that 'Hell' was derived from the translation of the Hebrew word Sheol that actually just means 'the grave', but the word is often mistranslated in some versions of the Bible.

Later the Greeks believed in a land of the dead called Hades, the place of departed souls or shades.

I Don't think that it should be interpreted as an actual physical place as seems to be the case with the o.p.as a dead person no longer has a physical body, ie, i doubt it can exist on this plane or dimesion of existence if you believe in such.;)

[revolutionary_jam]

In my experience, Hell is one state of being




commonly known as fear



never experienced anything worse then being absolutely paranoid, paralysed and overcome by fear

Fear is Hell