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frankanne
18-09-2008, 06:13 PM
Here's a fascinating article all about dis-info and the traits of the dis-info person and the tactics they use. So interesting and so relevent to Rik's death.

Here are a few snippets from that article:

http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

by H. Michael Sweeney sweenfam@teleport.com copyright (c) 1997 All rights reserved

While it is understandable that a person can become emotionally involved with a particular side of a given issue, it is really unimportant who wins, as long as truth wins. But the disinfo artist will seek to emotionalise and chastise any failure (real or false claims thereof), and will seek to prevent new links from being forged by a kind of intimidation.

2. Become incredulous and indignant - (How dare you question Rik's parents, etc.)

3. Create rumour mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumours and wild accusations

5. Side-track opponents with name calling and ridicule. (We've been called all sorts - vultures, vampires, nutters, etc. etc.)

6. Hit and Run - (a poster will pop up out of the blue, then disappear)

8. Invoke authority ‘one who knows’ - (Rik's 'friends' 'I knew him in REAL LIFE'.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions i.e. (‘yes I agree there are some unanswered questions, but this has been blown out of all proportion’ type thing.)

18. Emotionalise, Antagonise, and Goad Opponents. (There has been a lot of antagonism and goading of late.)

24. Silence critics. Rik was silenced, wasn’t he?

Traits of the dis-info agent
1) They never actually discuss issues head on

4) They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams

5) Their disdain for "conspiracy theorists"

6) An odd kind of "artificial" emotionalism and an unusually thick skin

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It's a good article and well worth reading. It's good to be aware of tactics used by dis-info.

kweli
18-09-2008, 06:19 PM
Very interesting.. thanks Frankanne

tracker
18-09-2008, 06:21 PM
Here's a fascinating article all about dis-info and the traits of the dis-info person and the tactics they use. So interesting and so relevent to Rik's death.

Here are a few snippets from that article:

http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

by H. Michael Sweeney sweenfam@teleport.com copyright (c) 1997 All rights reserved

While it is understandable that a person can become emotionally involved with a particular side of a given issue, it is really unimportant who wins, as long as truth wins. But the disinfo artist will seek to emotionalise and chastise any failure (real or false claims thereof), and will seek to prevent new links from being forged by a kind of intimidation.

2. Become incredulous and indignant - (How dare you question Rik's parents, etc.)

3. Create rumour mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumours and wild accusations

5. Side-track opponents with name calling and ridicule. (We've been called all sorts - vultures, vampires, nutters, etc. etc.)

6. Hit and Run - (a poster will pop up out of the blue, then disappear)

8. Invoke authority ‘one who knows’ - (Rik's 'friends' 'I knew him in REAL LIFE'.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions i.e. (‘yes I agree there are some unanswered questions, but this has been blown out of all proportion’ type thing.)

18. Emotionalise, Antagonise, and Goad Opponents. (There has been a lot of antagonism and goading of late.)

24. Silence critics. Rik was silenced, wasn’t he?

Traits of the dis-info agent
1) They never actually discuss issues head on

4) They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams

5) Their disdain for "conspiracy theorists"

6) An odd kind of "artificial" emotionalism and an unusually thick skin

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It's a good article and well worth reading. It's good to be aware of tactics used by dis-info.

i rest my case !

i said on another thread called

what should we do

that a particular pattern to a real disinfor artist ( otherwise on forums know as thread trashers ) exist here on the forum , their traiots are continous !
same tactics , same aproaches everytime !

ok fine sometimes a point is missed or a genuine mistake is made , but a true disinforartists always side tracks the issue and resorts to decharactorisation comments.

finally , i can rest my case .

thank you .:D

tracker
18-09-2008, 06:25 PM
i rest my case !

i said on another thread called

what should we do

that a particular pattern to a real disinfor artist ( otherwise on forums know as thread trashers ) exist here on the forum , their traiots are continous !
same tactics , same aproaches everytime !

ok fine sometimes a point is missed or a genuine mistake is made , but a true disinforartists always side tracks the issue and resorts to decharactorisation comments.

finally , i can rest my case .

thank you .:D


also , disinfo artists , when suddenly surrounded by many others who see whats going on will either relate to others on that thread , eventhough they agree with the thread creator , but carry on troling that thread creator .
this is an attempt to win over others right in front of those they are tageting.
otherwise the hit and run tactic also serves well .

thank you for this thread .
brilliant !:D

kweli
18-09-2008, 06:38 PM
i rest my case !

i said on another thread called

what should we do

that a particular pattern to a real disinfor artist ( otherwise on forums know as thread trashers ) exist here on the forum , their traiots are continous !
same tactics , same aproaches everytime !

ok fine sometimes a point is missed or a genuine mistake is made , but a true disinforartists always side tracks the issue and resorts to decharactorisation comments.

finally , i can rest my case .

thank you .:D

Yoy're not kidding my friend, they stick out a mile. ;)

biblegirl
18-09-2008, 06:49 PM
good post frankanne :)

the littlest hobo
19-09-2008, 01:05 AM
Well pointed out FrankAnne. Was reading about disinfo myself the other day and also about illegal mind control experiment. Another common trait is they mix the bull shit in with a bit of truth makes it easier to believe.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/illegal.html

Check out that link, not sure on truth of it all as I haven't researched it. Pretty disturbing stuff though and mentions induced heart attacks by laser beam and suicides amongst some other extremities. I also read about 2 project blue beam researcher's both dying of a heart attack and apparently one of them had their daughter kidnapped before that and she was never returned. How true it all is I don't know I just stumbled across it.

However, we can all speculate but one thing for sure is we all need to look out for each other and be aware of what we are up against. Whatever is true or not true the sad fact is another loss of a very young bright man that should never ever have happened.

ericdubay
20-09-2008, 01:36 PM
For those of you new to the reality of Mason/agents trolling political and conspiracy boards, check out these:

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/06/above-above-top-secret-com.html#comments

http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=17981&st=0

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

kweli
20-09-2008, 01:40 PM
For those of you new to the reality of Mason/agents trolling political and conspiracy boards, check out these:

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2....html#comments

http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/...pic=17981&st=0

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

Hi eric.. those links don't work

ericdubay
20-09-2008, 01:43 PM
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/06/above-above-top-secret-com.html#comments
http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=17981&st=0

These should work, thanks Kweli
~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

kweli
20-09-2008, 01:44 PM
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2008/06/above-above-top-secret-com.html#comments
http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=17981&st=0

These should work, thanks Kweli
~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

Sorted.. cheers. :)

the littlest hobo
20-09-2008, 01:45 PM
For those of you new to the reality of Mason/agents trolling political and conspiracy boards, check out these:

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2....html#comments

http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/...pic=17981&st=0

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

Thanks for them links Eric. I have already listened to a couple of your shows and found them very interesting. I may get things wrong on here sometimes but I have not been awake for that long. I would appreciate rather than being accused of a disinfo or what ever that a quiet word with an explanation would be much more helpful. There has been a lot to take in and its not easy finding the truth with all the bullshit thats out there. I'm sure you are aware we all had to begin somewhere and we can get a lot further by helping each other. You never know one day I may actually say something thats worth reading. hehe or perhaps not. ;)

kweli
20-09-2008, 01:49 PM
Thanks for them links Eric. I have already listened to a couple of your shows and found them very interesting. I may get things wrong on here sometimes but I have not been awake for that long. I would appreciate rather than being accused of a disinfo or what ever that a quiet word with an explanation would be much more helpful. There has been a lot to take in and its not easy finding the truth with all the bullshit thats out there. I'm sure you are aware we all had to begin somewhere and we can get a lot further by helping each other. You never know one day I may actually say something thats worth reading. hehe or perhaps not. ;)

You already have. :)

tracker
20-09-2008, 01:58 PM
You already have. :)


disinfo angents ( well done ) do use the same aproach as basic mind control artists .

no offense people ( not counting good faith believers ) but this type of mind control can be found in deeply religious people too .
where they come on a thread , make a statement , then when asked a simple question , they are unable to stay with the issue , and suddenly turn around and say something that is not related to the issue .

i call it alpha mind control , its the 1st and formost basic of mind control symptoms and how you can spot it .

i may be saying something here slightly different to those who know alot about it , but my appraoch does not come from others , or googling , not that i am saying other people do with their info , im just saying mine comes with experience on fighting disinfo agents .so i would obviously have my own approach and names for these symptoms .

also , most importantly , dis info agents tactics can be found in cases of gangstalking , electronic harrasment , and yes , mind control experiments .
and those who do not realise they have been mind controlled .

alpha mind control can be found through out our masses . the symptoms are all around us .

why do you think polotitions practice it in our faces on tv ?
ask about piece
they talk war
ask about health
they talk about money and investment .

this is the slow subliminal proccess of teaching our masses , how to be mind controlled slaves . it actually starts in school if ou are able to spot it , it can be seen .

the littlest hobo
20-09-2008, 05:36 PM
You already have. :)

:)

raptorialis
20-09-2008, 06:05 PM
Does your heart not tell you what is dis-information and what is not?

Why would you ever need rules and books or be encouraged to look for warning signs?

Is it not true that what one person sees as useful information in their life - another will see as disinformation?

Isn't the very act of emploring people to follow a set of rules - the very same act that the media and others follow to condition others in their favour?

Is this not just another attempt to get the many to follow the messages of the few?

Follow your heart every time, i say.

The human spirit knows every time.

All you need do - is to trust it!

Don't follow your head. It is a programmed receiver of propaganda!

tracker
20-09-2008, 06:09 PM
Does your heart not tell you what is dis-information and what is not?

Why would you ever need rules and books or be encouraged to look for warning signs?

Is it not true that what one person sees as useful information in their life - another will see as disinformation?

Isn't the very act of emploring people to follow a set of rules - the very same act that the media and others follow to condition others in their favour?

Is this not just another attempt to get the many to follow the messages of the few?

Follow your heart every time, i say.

The human spirit knows every time.

All you need do - is trust it!

some of wht you say makes sense

but the "rule book " as you say

is only the most easily used rules to get at people and how it works so quickly .

yes i agree !
trust your soul , if something tells you it is wrong
then it standsto rason that you may be right

the rules aboe ar only a guide on what to look for , thats all !

:D

some people need this info , and how to spot it , so its not wrong to show peple how its done however
your enlightenment issue also stands to help and especially stands for a good defence if used in conjuncion with the spot light above on how to spot it .

take it easy , dude .:cool:

lizzy
20-09-2008, 06:14 PM
Yoy're not kidding my friend, they stick out a mile. ;)


Don't they just:D........thanks frankanne (and tracker):)

blondina1
20-09-2008, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the post ;)

tracker
15-10-2008, 08:33 PM
re-edited for piece .

tracker ?

you can be a mean person sometimes .

dondaz
24-12-2008, 02:04 AM
Very good thread. I've been reading this stuff for years. Very insitefull.

Cheers!

steevo
24-12-2008, 05:44 PM
Yes good thread this :)

realfake
26-12-2008, 03:12 AM
Learn through experience and you'll build an understanding that no disinfo can pollute.

sade
12-01-2009, 01:09 AM
Eeh...So what is the purpose of this thread again?
Does the starter of this thread think that Rik was a misinformation agent or something?

I've just been listening to his stuff on youtube and it's scary, really scary.