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mynameis
18-09-2008, 03:55 PM
My prayers and thoughts are for her recovery. Get well.

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First picture of woman stabbed 17 times in supermarket as 'schizophrenic' is charged with attack

By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 2:37 PM on 18th September 2008

Lucy Yates is fighting for her life in hospital

This is the first picture of the woman left fighting for her life after being stabbed her 17 times in a supermarket.

It was released as Samuel Reid-Wentworth, 21, appeared in court today charged with the attempted murder of 20-year-old Lucy Yates.He was remanded in custody.

more...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1057592/First-picture-woman-stabbed-17-times-supermarket-schizophrenic-charged-attack.html

This is her attacker:

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2008/Sep/Week3/15102274.jpg

deckard
18-09-2008, 04:35 PM
This is why I support arming the public again, responsible citizens of course, not just anyone.
I hope she pulls through, and this guy gets whats coming to him.

disorder2k8
18-09-2008, 04:55 PM
poor lass, blessing on her recovery

tracker
18-09-2008, 04:56 PM
poor lass, blessing on her recovery

but ?????????????

did any so called MEN near bye do anything at the time ?

disorder2k8
18-09-2008, 04:59 PM
I dont know why are you asking me? I'm not local to the area! I know what I would have done, pushed the guy out the way then tied loads of shopping bags together to make a hasty tourniquet and stayed with her until help arrived. :(

mynameis
18-09-2008, 05:02 PM
but ?????????????

did any so called MEN near bye do anything at the time ?
;)


I doubt there were many around. If this was the supermarket I don't think any male teens or older managers would want to risk their lives for another person being viciously stabbed. I would however find the nearest available tool to respond against the attacker.

deckard
18-09-2008, 05:10 PM
but ?????????????

did any so called MEN near bye do anything at the time ?

Would you have done anything?
Most people in this situation just watch in shock.

homebrew1973
18-09-2008, 05:20 PM
Nowadays anyone that would confront someone like that would be the one that gets charged while the guilty walk free on legal technicalities, just the same if you were to attack a burglar in your home, sad state of affairs :(

ennui
18-09-2008, 05:23 PM
It's hard to say how you'd react in that situation as the natural instinct is to run away from danger. I did hear that one woman grabbed hold of the young ladies legs and pulled her away from the attacker, and that's why there's a streak of blood along the aisle.

It's absolutely harrowing for all involved and a sad reflection on how we 'care' for the mentally ill.

resistance
18-09-2008, 05:57 PM
but ?????????????

did any so called MEN near bye do anything at the time ?

Most people have been brainwashed into thinking that its wrong and unlawfull to protect themselves:mad: let alone a stranger in public. Its obvious why the government are increasly leniant on these lunatics, they serve to keep fear in communities very well. Hopefully the poor young women will be o.k, but i bet that lunatic will be walking the streets again within 5 years.
what a treacherous government we have, it has become unlawfull to defend ourselves and other inocent people, while the government allow the release of these violent criminally insane lunatics onto our streets, knowing fully well that they will re offend:mad:

deckard
18-09-2008, 06:50 PM
I dont know what I would do if this happenned right in front of me tbh, this kind of thing usually happens without warning, is not what the typical westerner sees all the time in reality, and as a result your mind will probably just freeze.

babylonwillfall
18-09-2008, 07:59 PM
Im sure everyone says they would play the Hero.

Buttttttttt....

It does not always pan out that way, Its not everyday someone starts getting stabbed to death infront of you when you go to buy your shopping.

deckard
18-09-2008, 08:26 PM
I
It's absolutely harrowing for all involved and a sad reflection on how we 'care' for the mentally ill.

He doesnt look mentally ill, if anything he looks like pure evil.

deckard
18-09-2008, 08:27 PM
Its not everyday someone starts getting stabbed to death infront of you when you go to buy your shopping.

90% of people would just watch.

cheesedanish
19-09-2008, 04:37 PM
Looks like another reason to push for the micro-chip - they will use this P-R-S - In the next few days... they will hint all mental patients need one to
avoid things like this happening.

sukyspook
19-09-2008, 04:56 PM
F E A R

Be afraid people - even when you go shopping, never forget that everyone is out to get you........

How very, very sad.....

adzboarder
19-09-2008, 05:08 PM
Looks like another reason to push for the micro-chip - they will use this P-R-S - In the next few days... they will hint all mental patients need one to
avoid things like this happening.

Having a chip under your skin or whatever is not going to stop this kind of thing happening. It will make it easier to catch the villain, BUT as with a lot of things these days its always AFTER the crime.

tracker
19-09-2008, 05:13 PM
Would you have done anything?
Most people in this situation just watch in shock.

i have already done this twice in my life .

if i were there

i would have crowned the -unt with a nice tin of beans .

people dont hang around just shocked although thats the 1st stage , the seconds count down and others are gripped with fear and

its nothing to do with them heads on their shoulders too .

not me !

id have crowned the -unt !

no remorse ,
no mercy

and unlike so many prats , im prepared to give up my freedom if i have to , show show others , they have the right to defend women , children , and them selves .:cool:

abaddon
19-09-2008, 05:14 PM
poor lass

find the nearest available tool to respond against the attacker.

Straight outta my mouth.

I hope she makes a hasty recovery

mikethepunk
19-09-2008, 05:23 PM
No joke right now in Seattle and Washington state we are having the same problem. A slew of multiple killings have taken place by mentally ill patients being seen on an outpatient basis due to the lack of beds and inpatient facilities. Just a week or so ago some guy went off and killed a bunch of his neighbors, a cop, some construction workers and a guy driving down the highway. There has been big debate as to whether the state will start to take responsibility and fix the mental health system.

The fact that this is happening a world away, leads me to believe that the mental health depts. are purposely not treating patients so that they go out and kill, so they can take away more of our rights and bring more fear into the population.

Link to one of the stories on Issac Zamora, the skagit county killer.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008162802_shootings06m.html

Here are the links to the numerous stories discussing the problems we are having here in seattle with the mental health system.
http://search.nwsource.com/search?from=PI&query=alger+murders&x=0&y=0&searchtype=network


The Northwest has the nations highest concentration of random murders and serial killers, historically so I have been told. It feels that way actually. Since I moved here in 2004 there have been many multiple murders, more than happened in CT or NYC throughout my life before Seattle.

resistance
19-09-2008, 07:13 PM
Yep, totally there is an agenda going down here, which is totally against making our streets the pleasant places that they should be, releasing these known lunatics out of prison or where ever else that they get held, is yet more proof that this government doesn't give a shit about its people, not that we need anymore proof mind you..:mad:

kanz
19-09-2008, 08:10 PM
but ?????????????

did any so called MEN near bye do anything at the time ?

Lets be honest here well first off anyone who helped would prob have been jailed for assault or some crap.
Second you gotta remember this guy has got a knife and is willing to use it so not much anyone could really do . Easy to say you could have done this or that but when you are unarmed and against a nutter with a knife its a lot harder to make a decision like that.

3stepsahead
19-09-2008, 08:37 PM
:(
so can anyone say what would have happened if this was in a arabic country?

deckard
19-09-2008, 08:40 PM
i have already done this twice in my life .
if i were there
i would have crowned the -unt with a nice tin of beans .
people dont hang around just shocked although thats the 1st stage , the seconds count down and others are gripped with fear and
its nothing to do with them heads on their shoulders too .
not me !
id have crowned the -unt !
no remorse ,
no mercy
and unlike so many prats , im prepared to give up my freedom if i have to , show show others , they have the right to defend women , children , and them selves .:cool:

Well good for you tracker, but your not the norm, most people think of their own safety above everything else, if it doesnt involve their family.

kriss_crow
19-09-2008, 10:07 PM
Having a chip under your skin or whatever is not going to stop this kind of thing happening. It will make it easier to catch the villain, BUT as with a lot of things these days its always AFTER the crime.

Is it the only purpose for micro-chipping - to know where actually you are??
Or rather to alter, manipulate ppl behaving, emotions and thoughts on the first place...

chicken
19-09-2008, 10:30 PM
Nice idea....?

One of you obviously has not read up on what chipping can really do

Chipping people, so you can just monitor them. You obviously don't get the full implications of chipping then.

It has been decided that in 2012 that prisoners will be chipped instead of tagged. Who decided this then? The police and the prison officers association. Another thing chipping is about having the target in ones sights at all times, ie containing a gps tracker.

Now more sinister is the use of chips to create "manchurian candidates", therefore over riding the persons thoughts and they call it " thought insertion". Chips can create body sensations, they can have sound pumped into them/through to the human host, so creating VK2 (voice to skull). They can make you vomit, give you instant colds/flu and so on, microwave hearing et etc.

It has been admitted that they can do this, chipping is a lethal methodology of control over someone, the body can be made to vibrate along the nerve lines. Used as a form of communication to the wearer.

If you look on the Deca thread about Mind Control, you will see the full implications of what a chip can do. Of course brain fingerprinting and needling someone with liquid crystals will do the same thing

So what do they give to someone who expresses these body sensations etc etc. They give them the label of Paranoid Schizophrenia, so uhmm!

Paranoid Schizophrenia is a Nazi invention from the 1920's, not gene based anymore as they cannot find the connection or proof that it ever was. It clearly says in the article that 80 years have gone by and the debate has been debunked. There is a reference to "Eugenics" in the same sentence.

Think about it - Nazi's invented Schizophrenia, eugenics and genes. aka killing second class citizens. Schizophrenics always are killed by armed marksmen or they kill someone else or they kill themselves.

The Nazis were heavily involved in Mind Control developments, leading to Mkultra and of course it is still with us, people are getting together from across the world to expose the mind control scandal.

Guess what! Chipping is not the answer, Some paranoid Schizophrenics could already be chipped to start with, before the label was slapped on them, Chipping is a fast way to change someones behaviour, so created paranoid schizophrenia basically.

Was this guy chipped already, or controlled via brain fingerprinting. Thought insertion to hurt the young lady entirely possible.

The bully girls might have been part of the phenomena called cause stalking, so he was sensitised to "girls" as they made his life hell.

check it out here, British site
www.psychminded.co.uk

chicken

tyler
19-09-2008, 11:18 PM
Perhaps someone knows more about this.........I remember reading a while back about the switch over to Tetra radio systems for the police. The little radio that they have up near their face can be used to effect their emotions. In laymans terms if it is turned up from base, the policeman can become more violent and aggressive.
Has this happened already in demonstrations where the police have viciously turned on innocent by standers and beaten the shit out of them with their new, nasty, extending metal truncheons?

I first noticed this a couple of years ago when the frontline police beat the shite out of older men and women on the big Countryside march in Parliament Square. These tweed jacketed, Barbour wearing types were the natural allies of the police and conservatives to a man and yet they were beaten to a bloody pulp!
Was the Tetra turned up that day?