Best Illuminati Explaination?

[goldman]

I just watched this tonight, and I must say, it almost contradicts everything I knew about the Illuminati. It's pretty good stuff in my opinion, especially the part on the 13 stages of the Illuminati and the part of Adam Weishaupt and his ideas.

Exposing the Illuminati from Within. Part 1 - Bill Schnoebelen

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2134284036772812990&hl=en

I didn't read much about Bill, but what he explains here does seem plausible. he basically says that the Illuminati plan was to tilt humanity back into paganism through the 5 steps of Weishaupt. And that the problems we see today is the start of rebellion against the government which fulfills the Illuminati prophecy.

So actually, by fighting the NWO we actually help the Illuminati?

What do you think about it?

[keystone]

Except that Bill Schnoebelen is full of shit! He has a wilder imagination that Joe Starling or Starjade (oh where did he go to?).

[goldman]

Yes I read about that a bit, but I wanted to have an open mind and first look what he had to say, I am not quite convinced yet though ;)

[keystone]

Yes I read about that a bit, but I wanted to have an open mind and first look what he had to say, I am not quite convinced yet though ;)Oh sorry - yes you should make your own mind up. Excuse my intervention but I just can't take the guy seriously I'm afraid.

[lord tsukasa]

I just watched this tonight, and I must say, it almost contradicts everything I knew about the Illuminati. It's pretty good stuff in my opinion, especially the part on the 13 stages of the Illuminati and the part of Adam Weishaupt and his ideas.

Exposing the Illuminati from Within. Part 1 - Bill Schnoebelen

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2134284036772812990&hl=en

I didn't read much about Bill, but what he explains here does seem plausible. he basically says that the Illuminati plan was to tilt humanity back into paganism through the 5 steps of Weishaupt. And that the problems we see today is the start of rebellion against the government which fulfills the Illuminati prophecy.

So actually, by fighting the NWO we actually help the Illuminati?

What do you think about it?

This guy is total disinfo. He drags us in with some interesting stuff about how Satanism, Freemasonry, and Roman Catholicism are linked together, then drags us into LaLa Land with how he's a former Vampire. He's also telling us that fighting the NWO is bad and helps the Illuminati. Give me a break. That's disinformation designed to quell resistance. Bill Schnoebelen is a Jesuit coadjutor.

[silver_eyes]

i believe what he says about high lvl mason screwing kids in the ass

[silver_eyes]

also if there were ways to become a shapeshifter point me there. id love to b a beast :D

[tracker]

well goldman ?

that just about sums it up.

i saw the link , very thought provoking .



:cool:

[demise_of_time]

also if there were ways to become a shapeshifter point me there. id love to b a beast :D

Doesn't David Icke talk about that in one of his books?

[silver_eyes]

Doesn't David Icke talk about that in one of his books?

not sure ive never read any of his books :(, ive only seen vids of his lectures

[barney_rubble]

Ahhh Bill Schnoebelen you got to love him.

He tells a good storey.

Here is a bit of a rebuttal to Bill and his stories
MasonicInfo.com on Bill Schnoebelen (http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm)

To be fair here is Bill's own web site:
http://www.withoneaccord.org/
Where you can by al his books and videos on everything from
Witchcraft, Vampirism, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Freemasonry, UFOs, Satanism, and even Harry Potter

[goldman]

Has anybody seen his talk on Vampirism? I looked on the internet but I cannot find his talk about that topic :confused: Does he really claim to BE ONE ? :confused:

[deathcultreject]

I've seen the drive towards paedophilia in a tiny minority of initiates in the OTO and the IOT.

It's 'justified' by a belief that it gives life giving energy, and it's promoted with subliminals and methods which look like NLP.

It's promoters are agressive sociopaths and they will (for example) use pregnant woman or children as a shield whilst they force their subliminals on a target.

I think that the cross over of mind control and paedophilia is somthing that needs to be exposed.

Exposing it should be a priority, since most people who get curious about occultism have no warning about the real predators hiding in it.

[elirien]

Has anybody seen his talk on Vampirism? I looked on the internet but I cannot find his talk about that topic :confused: Does he really claim to BE ONE ? :confused:

Watch the video you posted. There he talks about it. :)

I think the first part of that new video he made was on google video aswell.

Barney that site is just filled with opinion. I don't trust this guy at all but I can't go anywhere with the masonic sites claims since they are mostly just opinions how he could gain all of those degrees (which is shadowy i admit). At least a refutation of his masonic documents would be interesting to watch.

Will read this once more later. I just skimmed it.

[barney_rubble]

Watch the video you posted. There he talks about it. :)

I think the first part of that new video he made was on google video aswell.

Barney that site is just filled with opinion. I don't trust this guy at all but I can't go anywhere with the masonic sites claims since they are mostly just opinions how he could gain all of those degrees (which is shadowy i admit). At least a refutation of his masonic documents would be interesting to watch.

Will read this once more later. I just skimmed it.

Agreed that site is full of a lot of opinion. But he does point out some very interesting inconsistencies in time lines publishd by Bill himself (if you can believe the references).

A good moto is "Trust but Verify".