Seeking enlightenment on the purpose of symbols...

[chicken_little]

After reading so much recently about symbolism in the world, I have arrived at a question that I cannot answer myself. The question is this: What is the purpose of symbolism if those who see it do not understand it's significance or meaning?

Take, for example, the thread about the Toyota logo. Assume for a moment that the person(s) who designed that logo did it with no motives for placing symbolism into it. In other words the logo was a completely artistic effort meant to show the letter T in a creative manner. Does symbolism created in this way have the same "power" over people as symbols that are made for the sole intent of being evil and influential?

Now, I think it's safe to assume that the vast majority of people don't have a clue about the reptilian eye symbol, and many people don't know about the all-seeing eye symbol. With that in mind, what sinister purposes do these symbols provide to the blind, unknowing passersby when they see it? Is it simply a means to implant the image(s) into the minds of people who see it in order to condition them for some future event? Is it a means of communications for those "in the know" to display allegiances? Or is there some other reason for these public displays of symbolism?

If there is an active and sinister purpose for showing them, then I'd like to be aware of it, and be able to recognize them when I see them. Only recently have been "awakened" to the fact that there is so much evil on display around me every day. Being able to see these symbols and know about their potential influence could go a long way in maintaining focus in mentally combating what they may be for!

[graflok]

This is an excellent question and one I've also wondered about.
I don't fully have an answer for it.

Some say that symbols have power in and of them selves but I don't
quite see how that could be true. I see a symbol is simply a design
and I don't see how that could have power unless the viewer attached
some power to it.

However, a symbol can act as a trigger of some emotion or action if
the viewer has previously been programmed to react in some way to it.
A symbol can remind us of something. I think this is where symbols get
their influence.

These symbols have been around for hundreds, even thousands of years
and they have been made to have certain associations with them via
mind control techniques of various types.

I believe we've all be around for a long time too, though many have
forgotten this due to a kind of enforced amnesia. But, certain
previously programmed thoughts or actions can be rekindled through
the use of these symbols.

That's my best guess anyway.

graflok

[james777]

Ya, I don't know.....symbols are just symbols that propagate your beliefs or affiliation. I don't believe they have any real power. You could show me 'the reptillian eye' or the 'all-seeing eye' all you want and I'll still say "fuck the reptillians and fuck the illuminati". I will not 'allow' them to have any power or control over me. It's like me wearing a crucifix around my neck, yes it may affiliate me with christianity, but it cannot save my soul. So, my point here is that, 'symbols are nothing but artistic expression to show affiliation', and if I had enough resources I would erect a gigantic middle finger and place it in the front lawn of the white house, because it seems like they're affiliated with 'FUCKING' us......

[tinmenace]

What is the purpose of symbolism if those who see it do not understand it's significance or meaning?


Just because you're not seeing it with your conscious mind, doesn't mean your subconscious is not picking it up and affecting you in some way. David's most recent newsletter addresses this very nicely. If you're not subscribed, I HIGHLY recommend that you do. I've noticed that a lot of questions asked around the forum are always answered in David's newsletters or books. The info won't land in your lap, you must seek it.

As for the power of symbols and the way in which it harnesses power, there was a discussion on this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1092&page=14) about it.

[chocousbro77]

does anyone know any real good books i can find out about how to learn more about symbology, numerology, and ancient africa?

[ho1ogram]

G'day chicken little, here's my take on it all... it might be a little long winded as I'm still sorting this out myself...
I think a symbols meaning is embedded within our DNA. I think DNA contains the origins of the universe (see this thread: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2119 )

Symbols consist of geometric patterns; lines, circles, triangles, polygons; which are put together to create new and different symbols. In the thread Photos of Geometric Patterns in Nature http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3407 it appears to me that all of creation consists of geometric patterns, which is what symbols are as I stated above.

If all of creation is mathematical and symbols are maths (lines, triangles, circles, ellipses, polygons, etc, rearranged and overlapped) then reality itself is a language of symbols. Our conscious mind is trained through it's exposure to modern society to ignore this language and instead have someone else interpret the world for us (so called experts, scientists, politicians, teachers, media, religion, etc).

The illuminati take the symbols inherent in nature and, knowing that the general populations conscious mind is blind to their significance in forming all of physical matter, they use them to influence our most base and fear based desires. For instance the Toyota logo was obviously decided upon by marketers to sell more cars by its association with power and speed etc. (psychologists would have been employed to tell them what works best on the subconscious minds desires.)

The Illuminati also use the symbols that make up the very fabric of reality in twisted ways (the pentagram and polygon are good examples of this). The conscious mind doesn't see them for what they are, but because our DNA contains, and is itself, made up of geometric numbers (Fibonacci series) their twisted meanings resonate with our inbuilt structure... everything that you can see is a vibration and these vibrations influence you... our cells are crystalline in nature and receive vibrations from the world around them.

By being conscious of who you are (infinite energy, an aspect of all that there is) and being conscious of a symbols power and true meaning based on the intent of the person/organisation behind it (the Toyota logo creator's intent, at the very least, is to appeal to your greed and vanity) you automatically negate the intent of the person/people behind the symbols. If you CHOOSE to recognise yourself as an aspect of all that is.

You can of course choose to use symbols for magick. But why would someone want to influence anothers free will, which is what magick is?

I think of it this way. Reality itself is a language. The Illuminati use symbols to write the program of the matrix. By understanding symbols you are reading the program and therefore it cannot have the same influence over you. Just as a computer programmer reads java or html, you can read the program language of the matrix and see what it is really saying, you can see the intent behind the veil and therefor the matrix begins to break down. It doesn't resonate with your DNA anymore and as we are walking transmitters because of our crystalline structure, we rewire the matrix... just through our awareness... simply by being aware of the world around us... the illusion held together by maths and symbols.

That is my take on symbols and their importance... I don't know how much sense this makes to you (if any)... I'm still putting all of this info. together myself but these are my ideas so far.

[ho1ogram]

Oh yeah, and because we are so powerful (infinite love, infinite potential, infinite energy that cannot be destroyed, quantum physics and all that) the Illuminati have to madly and frantically keep writing the program. They train their initiates through their secret societies to read their language of symbols. When the iniates graduate and go back into the corporate, religious and political world they continue writing the program by using the symbols in and via their instituitions, structures, etc.

They are madly overwriting our inherent program... the one of infinite energy and potential embedded in our DNA. Their computer program, the language of symbols, holds the matrix together... our embedded program is one without form, limit, boundaries, but we have been focusing on their program instead of reading our own, the one we gave ourselves. Because it is us. Their's is an illusion... when one can read it the world is revealed as bs.

[i am all i am]

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[tinmenace]

does anyone know any real good books i can find out about how to learn more about symbology, numerology, and ancient africa?

Lumukanda might know about ancient Africa, more than the rest of us, and he may be able to recommend some books.

As far as symbolism goes, there are tons of books out there. I prefer the 'dictionary' style reference books, and there are many to choose from. One of the books I reference on symbols is called Amazon.com: Dictionary of Symbols (Norton Paperback) (9780393312362): Carl G. Liungman: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QD9vnTekL.@@AMEPARAM@@41QD9vnTekL. It's fairly concise, but gives you enough information to point you in the right direction for further investigation if necessary.

[chicken_little]

Very interesting post Ho1ogram. That's quite a bit to think about. Your explanation helps me with something I've been unsure of when it comes to how the term "matrix" is used. Thanks for sharing.

[tinmenace]

I agree with you Ho10gram. It is all about symbols, and the manipulation thereof.

The only thing I want to say, concerning magick is that when it's used to change someone else's will, then it is indeed the darkest act there is. But if used on ourselves to change ourselves from the inside out, in essence changing our reality (quantum thinking) then it's not a bad thing. The craft is not a bad thing, it's the user that defines it's outcome.

Magick by definition is changing the outcome of something by using one's will. That's pretty open ended. So, simply influencing someone's choice in what flavor ice-cream to pick, is an act of magick. Creating their reality...this is the same principal as quantum thinking.

It's not all bad, we've just been brainwashed to think it is, to keep us dumbed down and in a weakened state.

[graflok]

My feeling is that any influence that symbols may have is completely artificial.

Once you are aware of them and their source and intended purpose, they have no effect.

But, they're good for spotting the bad guys. :)


graflok

[tinmenace]

My feeling is that any influence that symbols may have is completely artificial.

Once you are aware of them and their source and intended purpose, they have no effect.

But, they're good for spotting the bad guys. :)


graflok




In a way I agree with you. We don't need to use symbols to change our reality. We have that power within all of us, naturally. THEY use the symbols to conjure or create a similar energy, because they don't have the same consciousness that we have. Theirs is artificial indeed, and it's going to topple over in the very near future.

[graflok]

Here is a symbol I use whenever I see an illuminati symbol.
A Gypsy taught it to me when I was a kid.
I find it works well to counteract the effects of all evil symbols:

symbol link (http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/50014~Finger-Posters.jpg)



:)
graflok

[ho1ogram]

My feeling is that any influence that symbols may have is completely artificial.

Once you are aware of them and their source and intended purpose, they have no effect.

But, they're good for spotting the bad guys. Right on brother!

G'day tin, I'm going to start a new thread to explore something you said.
chocousbro77: The only symbols book I have is "The womans Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects" by Barbara G. Walker, everything else I have learnt about symbols has come from David Icke's work and a whole lot of great people on this forum and the threads that have been created. The three posters above to name a few. i am all i am knows some books on numerology.

symbol link
Cracked me up!

[tinmenace]

Here is a symbol I use whenever I see an illuminati symbol.
A Gypsy taught it to me when I was a kid.
I find it works well to counteract the effects of all evil symbols:

symbol link (http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/50014~Finger-Posters.jpg)



:)
graflok

Yes! And it works so well too, doesn't it? I feel so liberated when I use it!

LMAO@graf!

[tinmenace]

G'day tin, I'm going to start a new thread to explore something you said.


I look forward to it. This is currently my own line of research, so I'm very interested in everything that everyone has to say.

[lumukanda]

does anyone know any real good books i can find out about how to learn more about symbology, numerology, and ancient africa?

hey bud i sent you a pm with some good books on ancient africa, gimme a shout if you want some more.

[limelady]

Symbols or symbolism used in logos can be used as
magical sigils - embued with magical intention for
the on-going working of energy on behalf of its owner
who may wish to attract/manifest a specific desire
or have some purpose or ourcome in mind.

So logos such as MacDonald's well know golden arches
(or on its side a 13) are sort of like on-going spells that
have been put to work on the people to attract whatever
the owner wants it to attract or create an effect that
only the owner of the logo/spell knows about.

Mostly it all works on a subconscious level. But any parent
who has ever driven their young family past McDonald's knows
only TOO well how powerful this type of sigil 'magic' can be!!

[tinmenace]

Agreed.

[james777]

LIMELADY;

"Mostly it all works on a subconscious level. But any parent
who has ever driven their young family past McDonald's knows
only TOO well how powerful this type of sigil 'magic' can be!!"

It's not magic............it's called hunger. I think you're looking way too deep on this one. I agree there are 'sigils', but looking too deep will just have you paranoid and confused.

[tinmenace]

...And you're rude and contemptuous.

[pedsi]

Heres a little experiment I carried out that may help to explain how symbolism and reverse symbolism affects us and how we react to them.
Whenever your in your car and someone stops to let you pull out or lets you pass you usually give them a sign of appreciation like a wave,flash your lights or give them the thumbs up( positive symbol ).
So this got me thinking.....I'll see what happens when i reverse the symbol (thumb down) the next time someone shows some road courtesy.
As you can immagine the reactions I received from two were totally different,smiles and waves when using the positive and dirty looks reciprical negative symbols eg the middle finger and v signs to almost outright road rage when using the negative.
Im on the road a lot as im a taxi driver so this was an interesting last couple of days to say the least.

[singularities]

Symbolism is the very oldest form of 'communication' - it speaks directly to the 'silent partner' or your subconscious: the aspect that makes sense of everything your conscious mind deals with. Thus it is very powerful which is why the Zionist-Illuminati are so paranoid about using it to control everyone and promote their pawns, puppets and agenda. For instance if the 'communication' market is flooded with certain letters, words, images and numbers (which 'coincidentally' are important in the Kabbalah religion) and these letters are linked or tied to success, superior beings, wealth and reborn Messiahs, then subconsciously people will accept the presentation (implied if not express) of certain individuals that bear these initials, letters, etc as being ....... 'superior' and better than the rest of us ........ because they're connected to all the above 'superiorness'.
Even if the people in question are the biggest con artists and frauds this side of existence. Simple really. And very very very deceitful and manipulative.
But that's the Zionist-Illluminati for you.