Beam Weapon theory Pwned

[john white]

Right, for those who don't know, Judy Wood is the frontpeice for the "Beam Weapons" 9/11 theory that has spilt scholars for 9/11 Truth right down the middle and essentially reaked havoc in the truth movement

Here, in a 35 minute interview, she is given all the rope nessacary to absolutely hang herself

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-558096240694803017

[geewhizz]

Hi

I can remember the particle beam theory was around on September 12TH! She made herself look an idiot as she hasnt done her research.

Pesonally I would probably agree that her theory is correct, think about it, putting explosive in the two towers and building seven would have been nearly impossible without someone blowing the whistle.

All she has to say is that all matter in this 3d physical dimension has a different resonating frequency so steel and concrete has greater mass than say human flesh, so finding the vibratory frequency then manipulating this with a manipulating frequency something which reacts to the electrons and sub atomic particles (particular only to the building blocks of that matter) steel has a different thumbprint to concrete etc etc

frequency/particle condensed energy weapons my dear. Plenty of space based platforms up there from nsa

Look up the theory of Philly experiment for more info.

[john white]

Even though I almost completely dis-agree with your opinion Gee Whizz your certainly more than welcome to hold it! I view 9/11 Truth as a citizens criminal investigation and I'd like to see prosecutions: so the most likely theory is of greatest value to me, not the least likely

[howlingmad]

I agree with you, John. She presented her argument in a very poor fashion, much like their website (she and Morgan Reynolds). At one time I held Morgan in higher regard; being a Bush insider going public about his concerns. I even shook his hand and called him a great patriot. He spoke in my town. He added at the end of his talk that he believed that there were no planes, but wouldn't elaborate. I contacted him by email to ask if he was privy to some kind of holographic technology that most of us were not aware of, since, as far as I know (I have a little experience in holography) projecting holograms in such a way simply isn't possible. He backpeddled and said that he had given up that notion.

When I heard that he appeared on the FOX "news" channel (from a 9-11 myth-believer friend of mine, who howled with laughter over it) I began to wonder if he wasn't actually a mole meant to disrupt the movement. Whenever FOX "inerviewed" other 9-11 truth researchers, they never give them an inch, but Morgan was allowed to go on and on about his no-planes "theory".

It's helpful to think about the {link}comments by Aaron Russo in his conversations with Nick Rockefeller (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/290107rockefellergoal.htm). Rockefeller arrogantly announced that the women's lib movement was financed by them in order to put the other half of the population to work so they can be taxed, also to force all children, at an even earlier age, into public schools so they can indoctrinate them young to regard the state as their "parents"--total break-up of the family.

However you take that comment, the fact remains that that is what has happened. Even though we know there were many well-meaning advocates of women's lib (indeed, there are noble aspects; equal pay for equal work, etc.), without the covert PR support from the Rockefellers, it may not have occured.

This is how they sell this shit. There is, on one hand something useful to humanity in their programs, on the other is the insidious trap that no one but them thought about. Like selling your soul to the Devil.

Now think about Global Warming.

[john white]

Yes I do, and there's a lot to be done bringing many of this issues to the surface: and of course, a lot that has already been done. I keep trying to get to the bottom of Global Warming, Peak Oil and a load of other concerns

I do a fair amount of 9/11 campaigning (I'm a mod over at nineeleven.co.uk ) and I shall be doing more work on this issue soon: the depths of the story behind Judy Wood and the Beam Weapon Theory are extremely tangled, and to those on the peripherary of 9/11 truth quite perplexing: but there are very important lessons to be learned

[howlingmad]

Regarding Global Warming, I've only recently warmed up (pun intended) to the notion that it's another hoax. Not that humanity pumping noxious gasses into the atmosphere is OK, but it serves the elitist agenda so well; Global taxation, mass culling of the population, perpetual oil wars, etc. It's another Problem/Reaction/Solution scenario--a BIG motherfucker, this time.

[seamus]

I have to say I finally agree. Okay, it's a natural cycle. I'm going to the hollow innards of the earth. No seriously. I want to do the admiral byrd thing, but in a dirigible. I'll prolly get shot down but at least it will be fun. I'll be sure to bring a cell phone video camera with me so my friends can see the missile blow me up.

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:D

[christophera]

Right, for those who don't know, Judy Wood is the frontpeice for the "Beam Weapons" 9/11 theory that has spilt scholars for 9/11 Truth right down the middle and essentially reaked havoc in the truth movement

Here, in a 35 minute interview, she is given all the rope nessacary to absolutely hang herself

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-558096240694803017


Just amazing how much good information gets buried under NPT garbage.

[monkey]

Even though I almost completely dis-agree with your opinion Gee Whizz your certainly more than welcome to hold it!

How very TOLERANT of you.

May I too formally ask you grant me permission to hold my own opinions?

Thanks for posting this, I actually thought it was THERMATE or MINI-NUKES
but this is an interesting theory.

That guy Greg Jenkins is a snide

WATCH THE MAN'S BODY LANGUAGE

government gatekeeper, the man is a virus

see the way he talks DOWN to her, RAISES HIS VOICE TO TALK OVER her

at 8.20 minutes

"microwaves are absorbed by water" (fair enough)

"the paper in the towel is not absorbed by water" (what the fuk is he talking about)

who said ANYTHING about PAPER being absorbed by water?

IF HE WANTS TO BE SNIDE AND PATRONISING , HE SHOULD NOT MAKE AN IDIOTIC SLIP OF THE TONGUE LIKE THAT. did he even realise what he just said there?

you wanna see someone discredited, check Greg's face at 9.33 minutes

SERIOUS BODY LANGUAGE FROM GREG AT 11.45 MINUTES

and then at 12.20, he closes both eyes as she is telling him and the 'screen '
goes over his face

I seen enough , that guy jenkins is A SNIDE

[kingmonkey]

Call me old fashioned, but I think planes hit the towers, I'm not even sure about the explosives.

I know, I know... it's not very "cutting edge" is it?

How do you start a poll?

[mynameis]

How very TOLERANT of you.

May I too formally ask you grant me permission to hold my own opinions?

Thanks for posting this, I actually thought it was THERMATE or MINI-NUKES
but this is an interesting theory.

That guy Greg Jenkins is a snide

WATCH THE MAN'S BODY LANGUAGE

government gatekeeper, the man is a virus

see the way he talks DOWN to her, RAISES HIS VOICE TO TALK OVER her

at 8.20 minutes

"microwaves are absorbed by water" (fair enough)

"the paper in the towel is not absorbed by water" (what the fuk is he talking about)

who said ANYTHING about PAPER being absorbed by water?

IF HE WANTS TO BE SNIDE AND PATRONISING , HE SHOULD NOT MAKE AN IDIOTIC SLIP OF THE TONGUE LIKE THAT. did he even realise what he just said there?

you wanna see someone discredited, check Greg's face at 9.33 minutes

SERIOUS BODY LANGUAGE FROM GREG AT 11.45 MINUTES

and then at 12.20, he closes both eyes as she is telling him and the 'screen '
goes over his face

I seen enough , that guy jenkins is A SNIDE

Is that you Bill O'Reilly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OF9uZqAlGM

[redman]

Call me old fashioned, but I think planes hit the towers, I'm not even sure about the explosives.

I know, I know... it's not very "cutting edge" is it?

How do you start a poll?



You're just so 2002. :D


I truthfully couldn't give a flying a fuck if a plane hit the towers or they didn't. All's I know that the big percentage of the population still believe it was done by Arab hijackers. Wait there, most of the dumb fuckers think Sadam did it.. LOL

I say fuck em, let the NWO have their way and let the sheep get played for the fools they are... if there is any justice the fucking lot of them will be burning in hell anyway, but I think thats concept is complete fucking horse shit too.

I'm just looking forward to cracking some heads when the shit hits the fan. :D Any fucker trying to drag me out of my house to take me to some fucking camp is going to be in for one hell of a shock. ;)

[redman]

Is that you Bill O'Reilly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OF9uZqAlGM


Cackling fucking witch... if these were medieval times she would most definitely be burning on the stake.. Biatch. :mad:

[eyepod]

Cackling fucking witch... if these were medieval times she would most definitely be burning on the stake.. Biatch. :mad:

Well if she drowned I give her the benefit of the doubt, if she floated - obvious fucking witch

[kingmonkey]

Well if she drowned I give her the benefit of the doubt, if she floated - obvious fucking witch

Works out well either way...I always knew Matthew Hopkins wasn't that dumb!

[drhemp]

It's helpful to think about the {link}comments by Aaron Russo in his conversations with Nick Rockefeller (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/290107rockefellergoal.htm). Rockefeller arrogantly announced that the women's lib movement was financed by them in order to put the other half of the population to work so they can be taxed, also to force all children, at an even earlier age, into public schools so they can indoctrinate them young to regard the state as their "parents"--total break-up of the family.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/3024093/Gordon-Brown-pledges-free-nursery-places-for-two-year-olds.html

[dave52]

All's I know that the big percentage of the population still believe it was done by Arab hijackers. Wait there, most of the dumb fuckers think Sadam did it.. LOL

I say fuck em, let the NWO have their way and let the sheep get played for the fools they are... if there is any justice the fucking lot of them will be burning in hell anyway

I'm just looking forward to cracking some heads when the shit hits the fan. :D Any fucker trying to drag me out of my house to take me to some fucking camp is going to be in for one hell of a shock. ;)

Bloody hell - you sound like my Brother...! You really, really do...! I think the last phone conversation I had with him was along the lines of...

"Those fuckers will get the prison they deserve, but I can tell you - when they come for me, I will kill the first one that steps foot in my house".

Classic...

[redman]

Bloody hell - you sound like my Brother...! You really, really do...! I think the last phone conversation I had with him was along the lines of...

"Those fuckers will get the prison they deserve, but I can tell you - when they come for me, I will kill the first one that steps foot in my house".

Classic...



You're brother seems to be a realist... I hear a lot of talk about all different kinds of theories of how we can sort our own reality out. Which all sounds great, but if that turns out to be bull shit ( and believe me I am going to try my damned hardest to try everything ) then when the shit hits the fan I am going to be well and truly ready, and if I am going then you better believe that I am taking some of those dodgy fuckers with me.

I actually think a lot of people will go for them before they decide to round every fucker up... if thats the case then I am totally up for that too.


Hey and I am not alone in this kind of thinking... So those 6 years in the army did come in useful after all. :D


Going to be some fireworks in the next few years let me tell ya... and I know this might sound a bit sick, but I am looking forward to it. Ya see going over to Iraq and Afghanistan picking on poor country's with no real army makes me puke, just bullying in my eyes. So I wouldn't mind being in a position to actually bring down the bully a peg or two.

And to be truthful with you, I think thats what it actually going to come too. I think the sheep out there who ain't got a fucking clue are going to be the biggest threat to the ones who are awake, especially when the propaganda really starts rolling... I think somewhere along the line there will be a false flag attack but instead of using muslim terrorists as the cause they will use someone like us, people who know exactly what the fucks going on. Then they will turn the public against anyone with any views like ours.

Should be fun anyway... I am bored shitless of working 9-5 in a shit job anyway... So I say bring it on.

[dave52]

when the shit hits the fan I am going to be well and truly ready, and if I am going then you better believe that I am taking some of those dodgy fuckers with me.

I had a really interesting chat with an ex-army guy about 7/7 and Jean Charles De Menezes. At the end of the conversation, and it really struck home with me.... He said - "Glad to see another one that will be behind the barricade when it comes to it". It really made me stop and think. When push comes to shove - that's probably where we're leading. Some kind of marshall law - and you've got to make some choices when it comes down to it. Scary times.


And to be truthful with you, I think thats what it actually going to come too. I think the sheep out there who ain't got a fucking clue are going to be the biggest threat to the ones who are awake, especially when the propaganda really starts rolling... I think somewhere along the line there will be a false flag attack but instead of using muslim terrorists as the cause they will use someone like us, people who know exactly what the fucks going on. Then they will turn the public against anyone with any views like ours.

I think this is a really important statement. At the end of the day, in order to control the masses, the perps are gonna have to turn us against one another.

Sucks to be us....

[redman]

I had a really interesting chat with an ex-army guy about 7/7 and Jean Charles De Menezes. At the end of the conversation, and it really struck home with me.... He said - "Glad to see another one that will be behind the barricade when it comes to it". It really made me stop and think. When push comes to shove - that's probably where we're leading. Some kind of marshall law - and you've got to make some choices when it comes down to it. Scary times.




I think this is a really important statement. At the end of the day, in order to control the masses, the perps are gonna have to turn us against one another.

Sucks to be us....



The statement the lad you was talking to made is exactly how I see it, even more so lately. Over the last 3 years I have been waffleing the same shit to people about the whole shabang... sometimes people take it on board and others you can tell they are just too far gone for it to even register... Well I am sorry to say but all the talk about not being spiritually ready for 2012 etc, may well be true, could be complete horse shit, ya know what I mean. But I think not being ready for when it goes off big time is a lot more serious and a lot more realistic, so i say do both. But I have to say that I think some of these brain washed fuckers are going to be in the way and who knows what shit they will be told about people who are against the governments etc.

What I have noticed is... people don't seem to realize is how quick marshall law could come about, ya sat at home watching the news that there as been a Nuclear, Biological, or chemical attack, and you watch how fast the troops will be in rounding everyone up.


It's only been the last 8 month I have actually been weighing everything up in what I could do to make my chances better of survival, because the it's moving very fast now, it's like you switch on the news and everything that I read in the first David Icke book I ever read is staring back at me, like you said, scary fucking times.

But fuck it, whats the worst that can happen, ya see your family die and ya die yourself. Just think over a million Iraqi's have been through the same thing.

[dave52]

Just think over a million Iraqi's have been through the same thing.

Amen...

[lightgiver]

just like to butt in,i have not been researching much about this laser beam technology until recently,the info i have come across is quite startling:eek:

here is a vid i came across about how the us military have been using this technology for quite a while and they are usually ahead in all this secret military hardware so what they are showing is probably not the latest tech they have;)

Mind blowing
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=OrY2OrL6szw

[mynameis]

just like to butt in,i have not been researching much about this laser beam technology until recently,the info i have come across is quite startling:eek:

here is a vid i came across about how the us military have been using this technology for quite a while and they are usually ahead in all this secret military hardware so what they are showing is probably not the latest tech they have;)

Mind blowing
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=OrY2OrL6szw

Which weapon are you referring too? The weapon platform and the range is essential to the technology. Technology has to be able to be applied to the situation. A laser does not explode concrete and steel. It would do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFAGhln8OQs

A concentrated beam of energy in those MTHEL weapons only have the capability to heat up the fuel tank in a missile and explode it from within. Moreover the maximum operational range for the MTHEL weapons platform is 5 meters and is bulky.

[lightgiver]

Which weapon are you referring too? The weapon platform and the range is essential to the technology. Technology has to be able to be applied to the situation. A laser does not explode concrete and steel. It would do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFAGhln8OQs

A concentrated beam of energy in those MTHEL weapons only have the capability to heat up the fuel tank in a missile and explode it from within. Moreover the maximum operational range for the MTHEL weapons platform is 5 meters and is bulky.

like i say i am just researching:rolleyes::)

are you an expert on this technology:confused::confused:
A neutral particle beam weapon ionizes hydrogen gas by either stripping an electron off of each hydrogen atom, or by allowing each hydrogen atom to capture an extra electron. When hydrogen gains electrons it forms anions; when hydrogen atoms lose electrons they form cations. A particle beam weapon that accelerates anions uses a traveling wave type particle accelerator. In this kind of ion accelerator, the negative ions are released inside a cylindrical ion acceleration chamber. This chamber has an electrode with an alternating electric charge of up to 1,000,000,000 (109) volts inside it[citation needed]. This is a theoretical weapon.

These stages happen:-

1. While the charge on the electrode is positive, the ions are attracted to the negative charge on the electrode, and thus bunched around it.
2. The alternating voltage switches the charge to negative on the accelerating electrode.
3. The negative charge electrostatically repels the negative ions and accelerates them to near the velocity of light.
4. The resulting high energy beam of anions passes through a chamber filled with low pressure gas.
5. There, collisions with the gas strip the extra electrons from the anions, and thus make the particle beam neutral.
6. The particle beam proceeds straight to its target, and damages it by running into it, and by disrupting the structure of the target with its kinetic energy[citation needed].

Cyclotron particle accelerators, linear particle accelerators, and synchroton particle acclerators can accelerate positively charged hydrogen ions until their velocity approaches the speed of light, and each individual ion has a kinetic energy range of 100 MeV to 1000 MeV or more. Then the resulting high energy protons can capture electrons from electron emitter electrodes, and be thus electrically neutralized. This creates an electrically neutral beam of high energy hydrogen atoms, that can proceed straight line at near the velocity of light to zap its target and thus damage it[citation needed].

The pulsed particle beam emitted by a particle beam weapon may contain up to 1 gigajoule of kinetic energy or more. The speed of a beam approaching the speed of light (186,000 miles per second) in combination with the energy created by the weapon would negate any realistic means of defending a target against the beam. Target hardening through shielding or materials selection would be impractical or ineffective [1], especially if the beam can be generated successfully and pointed at the target. [2]

[lightgiver]

check this out;)
Laser Beam Weapons and
the Collapse of the World Trade Center
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
http://americanfreepress.net
February 14, 2002

Did a laser beam weapon cause the collapse of the World Trade Center? A physicist who worked on the original infrared beam weapon has reason to believe so.

More than five months after the sudden and total collapse of the World Trade Center (WTC), the cause of the towers' structural failure has yet to be properly investigated and remains unexplained, according to America's leading fire engineering experts. As part of an on-going investigation into the disaster, American Free Press has interviewed a German physicist who believes a laser beam weapon, employing infrared technology originally developed in the Soviet Union, may have caused the collapse of the towers.
Unexplained Collapse

When the twin towers collapsed shortly after being struck by airplanes on September 11, millions of television viewers watched the apocalyptic scenario unfold. As immense clouds of concrete dust rolled across lower Manhattan, people around the world tried to comprehend what they were seeing. Nearly six months later, people are still trying to understand exactly what caused the two tallest buildings in the United States to completely crumble into a pile of burning rubble. However, it now appears likely that the federal government will not be conducting an open and comprehensive inquiry and that the most important questions surrounding the towers' collapse may remain unanswered. The destruction of the World Trade Center was the first total collapse of a high-rise in the history of the United States and the largest structural collapse in recorded history. It resulted in the deaths of some 3,000 people, the second largest loss of life on American soil — and the largest loss of firefighters ever.

However, instead of conducting an immediate forensic investigation into the causes of the disaster, the Bush administration has allowed critical evidence to be destroyed and now wants to limit the congressional investigation — an investigation that has not yet begun.
Bush Wants to Limit WTC Investigation

Recently both President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney personally intervened and asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (Dem. - S.D.) "to limit the congressional investigation into the events of Sept. 11," according to CNN. Bush made the unusual request at a private meeting with congressional leaders on January 29. He asked that the House and Senate intelligence committees only look into "the potential breakdowns among federal agencies that could have allowed the terrorist attacks to occur," rather than conduct a comprehensive inquiry.

Cheney made a similar appeal to Daschle on Jan. 25. "The vice president expressed the concern that a review of what happened on September 11 would take resources and personnel away from the effort in the war on terrorism," Daschle said. "I acknowledged that concern, and it is for that reason that the Intelligence Committee is going to begin this effort, trying to limit the scope and the overall review of what happened," Daschle said. Although the president and vice president told Daschle they were worried a wide-reaching inquiry could distract from the government's war on terrorism, privately Democrats questioned why the White House feared a broader investigation to determine possible culpability.
A Non-Investigation

A forensic investigation into what actually caused the buildings to collapse has not been opened and probably never will because essential evidence, such as steel from the building, was quickly recycled or dumped rather then taken to a metallurgical laboratory to be examined.

Fire Engineering magazine, the 125-year-old respected journal of firefighting, which publishes technical studies of major fires, recently criticized the WTC investigation being run by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) as "a half-baked farce." Fire Engineering said it "has good reason to believe that the 'official investigation', blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers, is a half-baked farce, commandeered by political forces whose primary interests lie far afield of full disclosure."

Fire Engineering's editor, WiIliam A. Manning wrote in the January issue, "respected members of the fire protection engineering community are beginning to raise red flags, and a resonating theory has emerged: The structural damage from the planes and the explosive ignition of jet fuel in themselves were not enough to bring down the towers."
Then What Did It?
There are numerous indicators that something other than fuel fires caused the towers to collapse, including:

* the immense clouds of dust and apparent disintegration of some 425,000 cubic yards of concrete
* the short duration and low temperature of the jet fuel fires
* the unexplained fire and collapse of 7 WTC, the 47-story Salomon Brothers Building
* the fact that the rubble burned for more than three months despite being constantly sprayed with water
* the report from the medical examiner that many of the dead had been "vaporized"
* and the absence of any flight data from the planes' "black boxes".

"Vaporized Victims"

Dr. Charles Hirsch, the chief medical examiner, told grieving relatives in November that many bodies had been "vaporized". Hirsch reportedly declined to be interviewed. However, Dr. Michael Baden, the state's chief forensic pathologist and a top expert in the field, said in September that most bodies should be identifiable because the fires had not reached the 3,200 degree (F), 30-minute level necessary to incinerate a body.

"Recovered tissues will likely be identified," Baden said, because "bodies are not cremated — or burnt beyond the ability to be identified — in the type of fire that occurred at the World Trade Center. The cremation of a body requires a temperature of over 3000 degrees Fahrenheit for close to half an hour... and that did not occur when the airplanes struck the World Trade Center."

To put things in perspective, the temperature of a normal house fire is about 1700 degrees (F); jet fuel burns at a temperature a little lower than that. In a normal house fire of 1700 degrees, the body is charred on the outside but remains intact on the inside; it is not reduced to ashes," he said.
Burning Dust

The rubble of the World Trade Center, which was a steel and concrete construction, burned for more than three months, quite unlike a normal fire, despite having been sprayed with a nearly constant jet of water. The fires were only reported extinguished on December 19.

The television evangelist Dr. Robert Schuller visited the ruins and said that there "was not a single block of concrete in that rubble," suggesting that the nearly 425,000 cubic yards of concrete had disintegrated into dust.

Television viewers saw the immense amounts of dust, described by one observer "as if some high-energy disintegration beam or laser had been focused on the towers, and pulverized the concrete into minute particles of ash and dust."

Directed-Energy Weapons
A former East German physicist who studied Soviet infrared technology and plasmoids during the 60s and 70s, and who was directly involved in a demonstration of a Soviet laser beam weapon in 1991 for the U.S. Air Force in Weimar (DDR), told AFP that there is evidence that a directed-energy weapon using "deep infrared" radiation was used to bring down the WTC. Although infrared weapon technology is not widely discussed in the West, the Soviet infrared beam weapon is nothing new and was already used during a Soviet dispute with China in 1969 to destroy "a wall" at the Ussuri River, which separates Manchuria from Russia's Far East, according to the physicist.

Infrared radiation is heat-producing and invisible wavelengths lying between visible light and microwave on the electromagnetic spectrum. "Near" infrared is closest to visible light and "far" or "deep" infrared is closer to microwave. Far infrared waves are thermal and cause increased molecular vibrational activity. In other words, infrared radiation is heat.
Israel's Laser Weapon

There are indications, according to the physicist, that such a weapon was used when the KAL plane was shot down over Kamchatka (Soviet Union) in September 1983. In the early 90s, this technology returned to scientific discussions in the West and the technology itself appears to have been transferred from the Soviet Union.

Since 1995, the United States and Israel have actively developed an advanced infrared beam weapon under a joint "anti-missile" program known as the Tactical High-Energy Laser (THEL). The THEL is a mobile, high-energy laser weapon.

Although the THEL laser weapon was designed, developed and produced by a TRW-led team of U.S. and Israeli contractors for the U.S. Army Space & Missile Defense Command, Huntsville, Ala. and the Israel Ministry of Defense, "requirements for the system have been driven by Israel," according to TRW and industry reports. Lasers are the leading edge of directed energy weapons. Laser weapons have been under active development for twenty years and easily constitute the most advanced of the directed-energy devices. In 1984, Jeff Hecht, author of Beam Weapons: The Next Arms Race, wrote, "The military 'destructor beam' definitely is in our future tactical arsenal." The advanced technology and plasma physics involved in directed-energy weapons give them unprecedented lethal power. Among their more important features are:

* the ability to fire energy "bullets" at or near the speed of light
* the ability to redirect their fire toward multiple targets very rapidly
* their very long range and
* their ability to transmit lethal doses of energy in seconds or even a fraction of a second.

No conventional ammunition is required — only fuel for the power generator is needed.

The THEL is part of a joint program known as Nautilus, in which the US Army and the Israeli Ministry of Defense (IMOD) have developed infrared laser weapon systems. The prime contractor, TRW Space and Electronics Group, has been involved in the development of high-energy laser systems since the early 1970s. A host of Israeli engineers and companies are involved in the program including the aerospace companies Rafael, Israel Aircraft Industries and Tadiran.

The THEL is a mobile system ostensibly designed to destroy rockets, such as the Russian-made Katyusha. The THEL employs the Mid-Infrared Advanced Chemical Laser (MIRACL). The MIRACL is a megawatt-class, deuterium-fluoride chemical laser. The weapon's systems can be transported in one or two shipping containers.

The THEL first successfully destroyed a short-range rocket in flight on Feb. 9, 1996. As a result, the US and Israel began joint development of a Tactical High Energy Laser/Rapid Acquisition Demonstrator (THEL/RAD) system.

In April 1996, President Clinton and Secretary of Defense Perry met the then Prime Minister of Israel, Shimon Peres. During the meeting, the U.S. made a commitment to assist Israel in the development of a THEL Advanced Concept Technology Demonstrator (ACTD) by the end of 1998. Congress gave more than $55 million for THEL development in 1997. Expense to the U.S. taxpayer and U.S. national security are apparently not considerations at the political level when sharing the results of U.S. weapons development programs with Israel. Nautilus was offered to Israel in the form of a multimillion-dollar "research grant."

The funding for Nautilus research was part of a $2 billion military grants package Clinton offered to Shimon Peres. Israel's access to real-time U.S. satellite imagery and at least $50 million for accelerated development of the "Nautilus" laser system were included in the Clinton package.

"Our commitment to Israel's security is unshakable and it will remain so because Israel must have the right to defend itself, by itself," President Bill Clinton, said as he explained why he was giving Israel an additional $200 million in U.S. taxpayer money above and beyond the $5.5 billion aid in U.S. grants and loan guarantees already given Israel in 1996. Described as the "the world's first high-energy laser weapon system," THEL-ACTD reportedly shot down a rocket with a live warhead on June 6, 2000 at the Army's High Energy Laser Systems Test Facility (HELSTF), White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. The THEL-ACTD is a highly mobile "stand-alone defensive weapon system" unlike the earlier version.

"Truly Revolutionary Weapon"

"We've just turned science fiction into reality," said Lt. Gen. John Costello, Commanding General, U.S. Army Space & Missile Defense Command.

"The THEL-ACTD shoot-down is a watershed event for a truly revolutionary weapon," said Tim Hannemann, executive vice president and general manager, TRW Space & Electronics Group.

During the test of THEL-ACTD, an armed Katyusha rocket was fired from a rocket launcher placed at a site in White Sands Missile Range. Seconds later, the THEL-ACTD, located several miles away, detected the launch with its fire control radar, tracked the streaking rocket with its high precision pointer tracker system, then engaged the rocket with its high-energy chemical laser. Within seconds, the 10-foot-long, 5-inch-diameter rocket exploded. In a series of two-rocket salvo tests conducted August 28 and September 22, 2000, in the rolling, high desert of the Army's White Sands Missile Range, N.M., the THEL/ACTD did twice what no other air defense system has ever been designed to do: detect, track and destroy multiple Katyushas in a single engagement. This weaponry, which is usually described as defensive in the context of anti-missile applications, can be mounted on an airplane, ship, land-based station, or satellite. It can bombard its target with either beams that will destroy it outright, or by beams of lesser strength to disable the target's electronics and cause it to go out of control.

The physicist told AFP, "From my experience as a physicist and research scientist with the GRU (Russia's Central Intelligence Agency) I have enough experience to judge that the WTC towers have been burning too quickly, too hot, and too completely to have been caused by the kerosene [jet fuel] fires that resulted from the crashes. Furthermore, the demolished buildings nearby [the 47-story Salomon Bros. Bldg.] are an indication that there was a plasmoid cloud involved, which probably affected the buildings nearby."

A plasmoid cloud is a heated and ionized gas that can be created and projected using far infrared thermal waves. Plasma occurs when a gas is heated so that some electrons have been separated from their atoms or molecules. Ball lightning is considered by experts to be a plasmoid phenomenon.

The physicist told AFP that he believes that a plasmoid may have been projected onto the towers before the planes struck. "The planes may have had a plasmoid in front of them. Just two or three seconds before the planes hit the towers, a plasmoid on the towers would have caused the Faraday cabin effect, like a car being hit by lightning."

The Pentagon was less damaged by a similar plane crash and fire because either a plasmoid was not involved or as the physicist speculated, "the Pentagon is technically shielded and protected from plasmoids." "The thermal infrared plasmoid would have raised the heat of the building. One should examine the videos in slow motion to see exactly when the fires started. A plasmoid would have affected the computers in neighboring buildings, because the plasmoid affects computers and cannot be targeted precisely," the physicist said.

If that were the case, another plasma expert says, "it seems evident that if the object [the plane] is moving at high speed in the dense lower levels of the atmosphere, the sudden collapse of the force free field and plasmoid would result in its thermal disintegration in a matter of seconds." The absence of any data from the black boxes is a further indication of the use of a plasmoid weapon, according to the physicist.

"Old" Soviet Technology

In 1991, before the Soviet military withdrew from East Germany, the GRU demonstrated for the U.S. Air Force Electronic Security Command (AFESC) the capabilities of its infrared beam weapon by reducing a ceramic plate into dust from a distance of one mile. This display of Soviet weapon technology was meant to impress upon the U.S. Air Force "how a stealth bomber could be turned into dust in the same way," the physicist said.

The physicist placed a slightly warmed plate on the floor of a kitchen in an apartment on the fifth floor, just below the roof. GRU headquarters in Weimar (DDR), where the infrared beam originated was less than one mile away on the other side of the valley and the second transmitter or reflector was 200 meters away, with no obstacles between. An infrared beam weapons requires two sources.

The TV and the oven were turned on and the TV's remote control was put in the refrigerator. The physicist left the room and watched the TV screen, which went black for a few seconds. The physicist left the apartment for a half hour to allow AFESC personnel to examine the results.

The plate had been reduced to dust that was difficult to pick up even with a vacuum cleaner, according to the physicist. "The plate was not destroyed suddenly as if hit by a bullet, rather it disintegrated in a process taking about 15 minutes." If the WTC had been struck by a similar weapon, than it is very likely, according to the physicist that one of the transmitters could have been placed in a high building nearby or on a moving platform such as a satellite, plane, or ship, and the reflector, or second source, on a ship or across the East River. Some of the pertinent questions that should be asked to determine if such a weapon was involved in the collapse of the WTC would be: How long did the towers' emergency power supply continue to function and had the computers in the towers been disturbed?

The World Trade Center Demolition
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lg

[mynameis]

like i say i am just researching:rolleyes::)

are you an expert on this technology:confused::confused:

Keep researching. Start here. I did.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/laser.htm

[lightgiver]

Remember the mystery white plane in the sky on 911;)
this may help jog your memory;)

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=UgF9Fd4UyMY

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=6w-ql8msl0U

[mynameis]

check this out;)
Laser Beam Weapons and
the Collapse of the World Trade Center
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
http://americanfreepress.net
February 14, 2002

By the way Bollyn doesn't name his engineering source. As others have pointed out he's probably disinfo.

[mynameis]

Remember the mystery white plane in the sky on 911;)
this may help jog your memory;)

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=6w-ql8msl0U

The white planes were doomsday planes.

"The E-4B is a state of the art flying command post," CNN explained, "built and equipped for one reason -- to keep the government running no matter what, even in the event of a nuclear war, the reason it was nicknamed the 'doomsday plane' during the Cold War."

http://www.rawstory.com/images/other/e4b091307.jpg

These arrived both shortly after both crashes.

http://rawstory.com//news/2007/CNN_investigates_secret_911_doomsday_plane_0913.ht ml

[lightgiver]

we had better start wearing foil hats:eek:;)http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4T_Xq180sk

[mynameis]

we had better start wearing foil hats:eek:;)http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4T_Xq180sk

Are you trying to imply a weather information gathering station in Alaska has something to do with September the 11th?

[lightgiver]

Are you trying to imply a weather information gathering station in Alaska has something to do with September the 11th?

i am not implying anything,just thinking there is a lot of dangerous equipment being played around with,and just connecting the DOTS:p

HAARP Boils the Upper Atmosphere

HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater." (The ionosphere is the electrically charged sphere surrounding Earth's upper atmosphere. It ranges between about 40 to 600 miles above Earth's surface.)

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope: antennas send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a superpowerful radio-wave beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto Earth and penetrate everything — living and dead. HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly: HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.

Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different from other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Tromsø, Norway; and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio frequency (rf) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities: "At the highest hf powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum rf energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'run away' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively inexpensive defense shield and the university can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.

Looking at the other patents which build on the work of a Texas physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes government denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation

humble apologies for straying from thread,i just feel its all relevant.

[masonfree party]

can anyone explain the earth's magnetic field disturbances that occured at the exact time the twin towers collapsed?...over to you john boy?

5. Magnetometer Data

One of the most striking elements of the data presented is that from a set of magnetometers monitored by the University of Alaska. Several instruments show significant deviations from “background” or “normal” readings as the events of 9/11 were unfolding. Further selections of this data is presented in relation to variations during the hurricane seasons of 2001, 2004 and 2005.
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/

[mynameis]

can anyone explain the earth's magnetic field disturbances that occured at the exact time the twin towers collapsed?...over to you john boy?

5. Magnetometer Data

One of the most striking elements of the data presented is that from a set of magnetometers monitored by the University of Alaska. Several instruments show significant deviations from “background” or “normal” readings as the events of 9/11 were unfolding. Further selections of this data is presented in relation to variations during the hurricane seasons of 2001, 2004 and 2005.
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/

Yes I can easily. Dr. Judy Wood is a liar.


Day 229, Aug. 17, 2001.
http://magnet.gi.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/display_plot.cgi?site=FtYukon&year=2001&doy=229

Day 254, Sep. 11, 2001.
http://magnet.gi.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/display_plot.cgi?site=FtYukon&year=2001&doy=254