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tinmenace

06-05-2007, 06:44 PM

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/dragon%20of%20marduk.jpg
Dragon of Marduk at Ishtar’s Gate in Babylon

Last night on the History Channel, they had a two hour documentary called “Quest for Dragons”. Here is their online description of the show:

A spirited exploration of the history, science, and legend of the world's most notorious beast--the dragon, the best-known creature that never was. Throughout history, dragons influenced wars, science, art, and religion. They appear in almost every culture and many still believe in dragons. How could different cultures, isolated by geology and millennia, all invent the same creature? If the dragon is simply the product of our imagination, how could distant peoples, with no knowledge of each other, all invent the same beast? One of the reasons dragons are a perennial favorite is that even though they are the ultimate predator and antagonist, it's also fun to identify with them. In the end, we want to be the dragon as much as we may want to slay the dragon.

History Channel (http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&showId=173437)

Next airing is on Saturday, May 12th at 11:00AM.

Well, the first hour of the show (all I managed to watch) had me convinced that dragons were not necessarily mythological. Something I’ve suspected all along. In the last month or two I’ve made up my mind that I will never again trust the word “mythological” again. I think this is another form of control so that we don’t question, too thoroughly, the ancient tales.

There were a few new things that I learned, and I’d like to share them with you. Ironically I touch on the presence of dragons around sorcerers in my VIRGIN-ia – State of Illusion (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3234&page=1) thread (Page 2)

I know that the pope is a sorcerer, a dark witch. I pasted some images of sorcerers in art, and then a couple of the popes, and the similarities are so obvious to me. Specifically the head gear, the staff and the long flowing garments. Then I remembered that usually when you see a sorcerer, or “wizard” a dragon is not far away. Below is what I said about it in the VIRGIN-ia thread:

Not to go completely off topic here, but I find it so interesting how sorcerers are depicted in art…the headgear, the staff, the long garments….

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/sorcerer1.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/lottosorcerer.gif

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/gandalf-sign.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wizard2.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wizdragon.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wiz.jpg

Is it just me, or is there a very obvious similarity?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/jp.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/popesorcerer.jpg

Also, have you noticed how often a dragon comes up around a sorcerer? They must be connected…

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/popeandqueen.jpg

Ironically last night, the TV show about dragons comes on. What a coincidence! So, I feel compelled to research it some more and write about it.

Stay tuned…

lucifershammer

06-05-2007, 07:40 PM

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 08:04 PM

i believe i've seen that show as well. they've rerun it a few times.

if it is the same show that i saw, they had 2 main explanations for the creation of the dragon myth.

the first was that the dragon is a compilation of the main threats to early primitive man. wild cats, snakes, and large birds. combine them together and you get a dragon.

i find that explanation quite lacking.

but their 2nd explanation makes more sense.

that ancient man stumbles across fossilized dinosaur bones. imagine digging up a T-rex, or allosaurus skull. and trying to picture what kind of animal left them.

i'm personally not convinced that dragons are more than myth. But i've learned not to regard any myth as completely fictional. so who knows.

I'm searching for a transcript on the show, and when it comes out on DVD, I'll buy it and make it available to others. But, interesting they talk about the constellation of Draco. They also talk about reptilians as gods in Sumeria. So, it's definitely interesting.

Yes!!! I couldn't agree with you more. "Mythology" is just another form of control to keep our minds from exploring possibilities outside of the official version of events.

i am all i am

06-05-2007, 08:34 PM

Laurence Gardener from 'Realm of the Ring Lords beyond the protal of the twilight'...
".....Attache to the Grand Protectorate of the Imperial Dragon Court....."

"In 1408... the Dragon Court was formally reconstituted as a sovereign body at a time of wars and general political turmoil. The Court's reemergence was instigated by Sigismund von Luxembourg, king of Hungary, a descendant of the Lusignan Dragon Kings of Jerusalem.

Having inherited the legacy in 1397 he drew up a pact with twenty-three nobles who swore to observe 'true and pure fraternity' within the Societas Draconis (later called Ordo Draconis) — Hungarian: Sarkany Rend.

The founding document... stated that members of the Court might wear the insignia of a dragon incurved into a circle, with a red cross — the very emblem of the original Rosicrucis which had identified the Grail succession from before 3000 B.C."

Laurence Gardner,

GENESIS OF THE GRAIL KINGS

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_dragoncourt.htm
The above link has many links about this subject.

The Dragon Court can be identified in Egypt under the patronage of the priest-prince Ankhfinkhonsu in about 2170 BC. It was subsequently established more formally as a pharaonic institution by the 12th dynasty Queen Sobeknefru, who reigned c. 1785 - 1782 BC. However, in practical terms, the concept of this unique fraternity can be traced back to an aspect of the original Grand Assembly of the Anunnaki in ancient Mesopotamia. This was not a goverment aspect; it was one of science and scholarship - more in the nature of a present day royal academy.

The Dragon Court in Egypt provided a firm foundation for the priestly pursuits associated with the teachings of Thoth, which had prevailed from the time of Nimrod's grandson King Raneb, a pharaoh of the 2nd dynasty. He reigned c. 2852 - 2813 BC, and about 3 centuries before the Gizeh pyramids are reckoned to have been built. In those far off times, the priests and temples were not associated with religion as were their later successors in other lands, but rather more with the duties of preserving and teaching the old wisdom. The temples incorporated al - khame workshops and it was the obligation of the priests to prepare the exotic food for the light-bodies of the pharaohs, while ensuring the purity of a continuing bloodline which progressed through the Dragon Queens of the Grail succession.

As the generations passed, the ideal of Kingship spread through the Mediterranean lands into the Balkans, Black Sea regions and Europe, but for the most part the crucial essence of the old wisdom was lost. This gave rise to dynasties that were not of the true Kingly race - usurping warriors who gained their thrones by might of the sword. The sacred culture of the ancients was retained, however, in the Messianic line of King David of Judah (c. 1008 BC) whose significance was in his pharaonic heritage, not in his descent from Abraham and the Shemite strain. It was because of this particular Dragon inheritance that Solomon the wise, some 8 centuries after Queen Sobeknefru, was enabled to recreate the royal temple project in Jerusalem. This led to a Holy Land revival of the alchemical Rosi-crucis (dew-cup) movement at a time when Egypt was beset by foreign influences, first from Libya, Nubia and Kush, and then from further afield. As a result, the traditional marriage arrangements of the pharaohs and princesses gave way to diplomatic alliances.

In 525 BC Egypt was conquered by the Persians, whose Kings ere subsequently ousted by Alexander the Great's Macedonian army in 332 BC. This led to the Greek dynasty of the Ptolemies and Queen Cleopatra VII. Her liaison with the Roman general Mark Anthony led to the final downfall of the pharaohs, and Egypt was subjugated by Imperial Rome shortly before the time of Jesus. At length, as the Roman Empire collapsed, Egypt fell to Byzantine governors and then, after AD 641, to the sway of Islam.

By that time the Grail dynasty from David and Solomon had progressed into the West, notably to the Mergovian Kings of Gaul, while other branches established themselves Kingdoms in Ireland and Celtic Britain. These lines were linked through marriage to parallel Dragon strains from Ham, Japhet and Tubal-Cain, which had survived as the royal houses of Scythia and Anatolia, and the family had its own marital links with the early princesses of Egypt. The first Pen-Dragon (Pen Draco Insularis) of Britain from this stock was King Cymbeline of the House of Camu-lot, who was installed in about AD 10. The Celtic Pendragons were not father to son successors in a particular decent, but were chosen from various reigning Dragon families and individually selected by a druidic council of elders to be the King of Kings. The last Pendragon was Cadwaladr of Gwynedd, who died in AD 664. At around that time much of Britain fell to the Germanic influence of the invading Anglo-Saxons and Angle-land (England) was born, as distinct from Scotland and Wales.

This coincided with Byzantium's loss of Egypt to the Caliphs and, following the last Roman Emperor in AD 476, a whole new governmental structure evolved in the West. Its ultimate overlords were the Popes, and outside the preserved Celtic domains the appointed Kings not by any right of heritage, but to suit the political motives of the bishops and the fast-growing Roman Church. Seemingly, the days of the Dragon were done but, the true dynasts of the original Grail stock always upheld their positions, and the spirit of the Dragon Court persisted in influential circles throughout Europe and the Near East.

In 1408 (when Britain was in her Plantagenet era), the Dragon Court was formally reconstituted as a sovereign body at a time of wars and general political turmoil. The Court's re-emergence was instigated by Sigismund von Luxembourg, the King of Hungary, a descendant of the Lusignan Dragon Kings of Jerusalem. Having inherited the legacy in 1397, he (along with his wife and daughter) drew up a pact with twenty three nobles who swore to observe 'true and pure fraternity' within the Societas Draconis (later called the Ordo Draconis - Hungarian: Sarkany Rend ). The founding document of Sigismundus dei rex Hungaraie stated that members of the Court might wear the insignia of a dragon incurved into a circle, with a red cross - the very emblem of the original Rosicrucis which had identified the Grail successsion from before 3000 BC.

Shortly after this foundation, Sigismund was crowned Holy Roman Emperor and, as a result, the noble fraternity achieved a heightened status as the Imperial and Royal Court of the Dragon. It might appear strange to some that Pope Eugene IV approved of his Emperor maintaining a Court whose ancient origins were so steeped in pre-Christian lore, but such is the nature of the Dragon that its traditions surmounts the mundane constraints of denominational dispute. After all, King David, Solomon and even Jesus were all pre-Christian dynasts of the line.

There were, of course, those staunch upholders of 'churchianity' and its articles of dogma who openly opposed the pre-papal concept of Grail Kingship. They were those who pronounced the Arthurian romances heretical and who blacklisted the writings of Merlin in 1546 at the council of Trento in northern Italy. Everything that was magic to the ears, and all that was fresh air to the subjugated, became suddenly denounced as sinister and occult. The great enlightenment of the 'Grail Code' of service was condemned in a puritanical onslaught and anything remotely connected with the female ethic was dubbed 'witchcraft'.

Something which has prompted interests in recent times was that an early member of Sigismund's Dragon Court was Count Dracula, better known to historians as Vlad III of Wallachia, who built the citadel of Bucharest. The name Dracula means, quite simply, 'son of Dracul', and Dracul (Dragon) was a style by which his father was known within the Ordo Draconis from 8 February 1431. Vlad was a prince of harsh disciplines: his method of execution for crimes against the state was impalement on wooden stakes. This was quite compatible with other hideous punishments of the time (boiling in oil, burning at the stake, drawing and quartering, etc.) and was certainly no worse than the Catholic Inquisitors' treatment of so-called heretics. (One of their agonizing techniques was for monks to spread their live victims with fat and roast them slowly from the feet upwards.) However, Vlad's particular method became reversed against him in a later Gothic-novel tradition which claimed that Dracula should be killed by impalement with a wooden stake.

The Orthodox establishment's real fear of Dracula, however, was not his treatment of enemies but his in-depth knowledge of Alchemy, Kingship and the ancient Star fire customs. Having attended the Austrian School of Solomon in Hermannstadt, he had a scientific understanding of the bodily effects of melatonin and serotonin, which enhance longevity and increase consciousness. Clearly, he was a high melatonin producer as such people are adversely affected by sunlight. they are night-workers ( melos tosos ). Consequently, the Transylvanian myth was born and in Bram Stoker's novel ( published in 1897 ) Vlad Dracula was portrayed as a vampire - a prince of darkness who imbibed the blood of virgins.

Notwithstanding this, a good deal of truly early folklore was actually based upon the Grail and Dragon traditions. The very concept of fairies ( the fair folk ) was born directly from this base, being a derivative of fee or fey and relating especially to 'fate'. In the Celtic world, certain royal families were said to carry the fairy blood - that is to say, the fate or destiny of the Grail bloodline - while the Dragon and Grail princesses of romance and history were often called 'elf-maidens'. They were the designated guardians of the earth, starlight and forest, as beguilingly replicated by the elven race in Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. In the old language of southern Europe, a female elf was an elbe or ylbi, from which derived the town-name of Albi, the Languedoc centre of the Gnostic Cathars ( Pure Ones ) in the Middle Ages. When Pope Innocent III launched his brutal 35 year military assault upon the Cathars from 1208, his campaign was called the Albigensian Crusade because it was set against the supporters of the albi-gens ( the elven bloodline ).

Mythology was, in fact, used to convey explanations of curious phenomena and to demonstrate intuitive discernment before the advancements of modern science determined that logic was supreme. Regrettably, in this computer age, logic ( a traditional male characteristic ) has largely replaced intuition ( a generally regarded female attribute ), whereas the two in harmony present a far more versatile route to genuine insight. It is fortunate therefore, that whilst we are afforded access to welcome discoveries in numerous scientific fields, an active remnant of the old wisdom prevails within the ancient Dragon court. Despite all the marvels of technology, there is still a parallel culture of incorporeal thought, a separate tradition which embodies a whole world of wondrous experience for those with a questing spirit.

From the outset, Sigismund's Dragon Court included royalty from lands other than Hungary, including the Kings of Poland and Aragon, and the Duke of Lithuania. Then, by the 16th century, the Court had spread its wings and there were autonomous branches in Bulgaria, Bosnia, Arcadia, Italy and France. In British East Anglia the tradition was maintained by a Draconian Order called the Rosicruiciana Anglicae. Today, the Imperial and Royal Court of the Dragon, with its inner court of Sarkany Rend, resides within the greater Dragon Sovereignty of the Grail Kingdoms. Its purpose is largely educational, being a repository for the corpus of ancient knowledge which has been handed down from early times.

Now, as ever, the Dragon Court is concerned with people and not with property; it relates specifically to the land and environment of the many, not to the wealth and privilege of the few.

Indeed, it provides a platform of mutual understanding for leaders and followers alike, enjoining that all should be as one in a common unified service.

Though their lineaage is yet unknown to them - even so, whether of high birth or lowly station, the parents of any maid or youth whose name is written upon this stone will bethink them blessed who are to be called to the service of the Grail. Wolfram von Eschenbach, c. 1208

The Order of the Dragon (Lat: Societatis draconistrarum) was an institution similar to other chivalric orders of the time, modeled on the Order of St. George (1318). It was created in 1408 by the Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund (then the king of Hungary). According to its statute, which survives in a copy dated 1707, the Order required its initiates to defend the Cross and fight its enemies, principally the Turks. The original Order had twenty four members of the nobility, including such notable figures as:

Sigismund of Luxembourg, King of Hungary, Emperor of Holy Roman Empire (after 1410)

Despot Stefan Lazarevic of Serbia

King Alfonso V of Aragon and Naples

King Vladislav Jagello of Poland

Grand Prince Vitovd of Lithuania

Duke Ernst of Austria

Christopher III, Duke of Bavaria and King of Denmark

Thomas de Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk (after 1439)

Vlad Tsepesh, Duke of Wallachia (after 1431)

The Order of the Dragon adopted as its symbol in 1408 the image of a circular dragon with its tail coiled around its neck. On its back, from the base of its neck to its tail, was the red cross of St George on the background of a silver field. With the expansion of the Order, other symbols were adopted, all variations on the theme of dragon and cross. For example, one class of the Order used a dragon being strangled with a cross draped across its back; another presents a cross perpendicular to a coiled-up dragon with an inscription:

"O quam misericors est Deus" (Oh, how merciful God is)

and "Justus et paciens" (Justifiably and peacefully)

Other emblems of the Order included a necklace and a seal, each with a variant form of the dragon motif.

After the death of Sigismund in 1437, the Order of the Dragon lost much of its prominence, though its iconography was retained on the coats-of-arms of several noble families.

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The Hungarian Order of the Dragon is currently registered at the High Court of Budapest as The Imperial and Royal Dragon Court and Order - Ordo Dragonis, Sárkány Rend, 1408. The Grand Chancellor is Chev. Dr. Gyorgy von varhegyi Lehr, Count of Oberberg, with Inner Court members including HRH Prince Michael of Albany, Head of the Royal House of Stewart, Grand Duke Peter Galicin of Carpathia and Baron Wodiank Zoltan Nemessary. Bishop Bela Csernak is the Grand Prior in Transylvania and Chev. Baron Andreas G. von Lehr the Grand Prior in Germany. Other notable members are Count Monsignor Laszlo Esterházy, Chev. Count Dr Janos szeki Teleki and Chev. Monsignor Laszlo von galantal Esterházy, Papal Chaplain, Provost Parochus of the Mariaremete Cathedral in Budapest. In the English speaking world the Order resides within the Protectorate of the Royal House of Stewart, with the Grand Prior in Britain being Chev. Dr. Andrew von Zsigmond, Baron de Lemhény, of the Hungarian Consulate.

http://groups.msn.com/AncientWisdomNewMillenium/royalcourtofthedragon1.msnw

http://groups.msn.com/AncientWisdomNewMillenium/dragoncourt2.msnw

http://groups.msn.com/AncientWisdomNewMillenium/insigniaoftheroyaldragoncourt.msnw

More on this here...
http://groups.msn.com/AncientWisdomNewMillenium/ordodraconissrknyrend.msnw

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Order of the Dragon - wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Dragon_order_insignia.jpg/180px-Dragon_order_insignia.jpg
Reconstruction of the order patch (I) based on existing Austrian museum artifacts

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/DragonOrder_badge.png/180px-DragonOrder_badge.png
Reconstruction of the emblem (II) based on the sketches in Austrian Museum custody; the original badge is missing

More links...

http://www.zsigmond.co.uk/royal_dragon_page.htm

http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/meroveredragon.html

http://graal.co.uk/affiliates.html

The English Coat of Arms with the cross of St George on it, who is famous for killing a dragon...

http://www.thetreemaker.com/images/miller-coat-of-arms.jpg

The British Coat of Arms with another 'mythological' creature on it, the unicorn...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/UK_Royal_Coat_of_Arms.png/250px-UK_Royal_Coat_of_Arms.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/41/UK_Royal_Coat_of_Arms.png/250px-UK_Royal_Coat_of_Arms.png

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lumukanda

06-05-2007, 08:51 PM

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 09:25 PM

Thanks IAAIA for your awesome contribution to the thread!

tinmenace

06-05-2007, 09:28 PM

i long ago stopped looking at myths as just stories, at the centre of each myth is a real event, it's up to us to try and find that event, thats what i'm doing with african myths and legends, trying to find how they tie in with the actual history, thing is, very often, the legends is all we have in african history.

Right! It's too complicated trying to reconcile myth and non-fiction without big gaping holes and loose ends. But, the minute you consider that these creatures/gods/places were actually in existence (and might still be, as far as gods go), then it all falls into place very nicely.

i am all i am

06-05-2007, 09:46 PM

Thanks IAAIA for your awesome contribution to the thread!

You are welcome gorgeous.

I couldn't get the Royal Dragon emblem or any other pictures related to it because they are all 'locked' (no matter which site it appears on), but they appear in the links and you can see the symbology in them (the Cross of Malta, etc).

It's interesting that "this unique fraternity can be traced back to an aspect of the original Grand Assembly of the Anunnaki in ancient Mesopotamia.". It raises a lot of questions, especially when some of the lizards (I think it's the royal ones...???) apparently have wings.

Anyway, great thread sunshine...love your work.

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tinmenace

06-05-2007, 09:52 PM

Thanks Bud. I'm working on a follow up post....

i am all i am

06-05-2007, 10:56 PM

Thanks Bud. I'm working on a follow up post....

Excellent gorgeous...I am interested in reading you come up with.

http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerian2.gif

http://www.crystalinks.com/annunakiman.jpg

http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods3.jpg

http://www.crystalinks.com/enki.jpg
Enki walks out of the water to the land.
Enki is attended by a god with two faces called Usmu (Isimud).

Notice the small 'dragon' like creature at the bottom left of the picture.
http://www.crystalinks.com/ealchemy.jpg
Enki with the Gods and the Initiate.
The Water of Life flowing into the laboratory glassware
indicates alchemical circulations.

http://www.crystalinks.com/AsshurZ.jpg

http://www.crystalinks.com/zwings.gif

A lot of winged Gods in Sumeria.

Could this be a link with dragons ???

Of course there were a lot of wings in Egypt as well.
http://www.temkit.com/images/PH02432J.JPGhttp://www.temkit.com/images/44.gif
http://www.temkit.com/dragons_and_serpents.htm

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tinmenace

06-05-2007, 11:12 PM

It has everything to do with it. See the Dragon of Marduk at the Gates of Ishtar in Babylon....

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/dragon%20of%20marduk.jpg

Well Marduk was Enki's son, who was later worshipped in Egypt as the sun god, Ra. So, YEAH! It as EVERYTHING to do with it.

i am all i am

07-05-2007, 12:15 AM

The Winged Serpents

"There are also about Thebes sacred serpents, not at all harmful to men, which are small in size and have two horns growing from the top of the head: these they bury when they die in the temple of Zeus, for to this god they say that they are sacred.

"There is a region moreover in Arabia, situated nearly over against the city of Buto, to which place I came to inquire about the winged serpents: and when I came thither I saw bones of serpents and spines in quantity so great that it is impossible to make report of the number, and there were heaps of spines, some heaps large and others less large and others smaller still than these, and these heaps were many in number.

"This region in which the spines are scattered upon the ground is of the nature of an entrance from a narrow mountain pass to a great plain, which plain adjoins the plain of Egypt; and the story goes that at the beginning of spring winged serpents from Arabia fly towards Egypt, and the birds called ibises meet them at the entrance to this country and do not suffer the serpents to go by but kill them."

The Histories of Herodotus, Macaulay, George Campbell (translator)

http://webpages.charter.net/anthropogene/arc_vol2_is13.html

Herodotus on Winged Serpents
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/hist/h112999a.shtml

The History of Herodotus: A New english Version
http://books.google.com/books?id=ijENAAAAIAAJ&pg=RA4-PA105&lpg=RA4-PA105&dq=winged+serpents+of+egypt&source=web&ots=FFJfGs7gLH&sig=tYIZKJxwySjraYmM7StWR1_y8ao

Horned serpent, feathered serpent
http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefsavanyu.htm

http://www.hu-ra.com/images/winged.jpg
This ancient symbol, also know as Ra-Horakhty, is found over doorways, archways and entrances to temples throughout Egypt.
http://www.hu-ra.com/hrprod8.html

The Legend of Horus of Behutet and the Winged Disk

XII 2. In the three hundred and sixty-third year of Ra-Heru-Khuti, who liveth for ever and forever, His Majesty was in TA-KENS, and his soldiers were with him; [the enemy] did not conspire (auu) against their lord, and the land [is called] UAUATET unto this day.

3. And Ra set out on an expedition in his boat, and his followers were with him, and he arrived at UTHES-HERU, [which lay to] the west of this nome, and to the east of the canal PAKHENNU, which is called [ . . . . . . . . to this day]. And Heru-Bebutet was in the boat of Ra, and he said unto his father Ra-Heru-Khuti (i.e., Ra-Harmachis), I see that the enemies are conspiring against their lord; let thy fiery serpent gain the mastery . . . . . over theru."
http://www.touregypt.net/legendofhorusofbehutet.htm

Throne and Footrest of Tutankhamun
http://www.eternalegypt.org/images/elements/398-4-EM-1-881-BIS_400x400.jpg
http://www.eternalegypt.org/EternalEgyptWebsiteWeb/HomeServlet?ee_website_action_key=action.display.e lement&story_id=&module_id=&language_id=1&element_id=62387

Visit the link for a 3-D view where you can see the winged serpent armrests.

This is the closest picture that I could find showing the armrests, apart from the 3-D view at the above link.
http://www.kennethgarrett.com/db_images/KLG_000CLsm.jpg

This picture depicts the goddesses Ma'at and Isis. Ma'at, the
goddess of truth and justice, is the winged goddess who is
kneeling. Isis is the goddess seated on the throne....................Found another picture of Tut's throne.
http://www.shira.net/drawings/maat-and-hathor.JPG...http://www.kingtutexhibit.com/images/kingtut/tut-throne-90-91.jpghttp://www.temkit.com/images/44.gif

A picture of Isis with wings, the mother of the Sun God Horus.
http://www.egyptiandreams.co.uk/images/papyrus/80x30/ed-ppx-04_m.jpg

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EDIT:- I had the Tutankhamun throne picture of the serpent armrests in the above post, duh, so I added it here so you could see the armrest easily from the side view.

i am all i am

13-05-2007, 06:00 PM

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http://www.biblepicturegallery.com/Samples/pa/world/worship/pagan/p_gods/Female%20(or%20youthful)%20cherubic%20figures%20st anding%20be.gif

http://www.biblepicturegallery.com/Samples/pa/world/nations/rulers_a/Portrait%20sculpture%20of%20Cyrus%20King%20of%20Pe rsia%20which%20.gif

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With LOVE.

i am all i am

13-05-2007, 06:05 PM

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With LOVE.

masonic3

13-05-2007, 06:05 PM

hagbard_celine

13-05-2007, 11:14 PM

I'm reading this at the moment. It's good:

http://www.cfz.org.uk/shop/book-dragon.htm