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zircon

05-05-2007, 04:41 PM

Hi You have probably already seen this video about Tom Van Flandern's 2001 conference giving proof of the existence of artificial structures - and indeed life - on Mars. Does anyone know of any more recent discoveries? As since then all the missions have "failed" it's difficult to know what's going on.
Blessings
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2901932981144033755&q=life+on+mars

yvonne

05-05-2007, 06:25 PM

I don't think I seen it...Thanks for the link!

lightbeing

14-05-2007, 12:56 PM

hagbard_celine

14-05-2007, 06:33 PM

Is this along the lines of Hoagland and the Face on Mars? Hope so, because I'm interested in that. Thanks

zircon

14-05-2007, 10:58 PM

Hi, yes, and a lot more, that was announced but smartly downplayed by NASA. I wrote to van Flandern once and he was very civil, but denied the scientific evidence for any recent (ie last 10,000-50,000 years) cataclysmic planetary explosion in the asteroid belt area.. He dates it to millions of years back. But he is a serious exponent of the life on mars theory and of credible architectural evidence showing it. The most amazing thing are the pictures of glass-like tubes hundreds of yards wide that seem to have been smashed, and could have been transport systems.. and what looks like a girl's face.
I'll try to find a way of getting stills of them out of the Google video - or maybe you know of a way?

zircon

14-05-2007, 11:15 PM

ho1ogram

15-05-2007, 08:09 AM

I don't know if this is any help and you probably already know about it but just in case you don't this is the link to a site with info on Mars: http://www.enterprisemission.com/

amadeus

15-05-2007, 12:05 PM

So if NASA is trying to cover things up, why do they allow these mars-missions to happen? Is it to get the fundings? How do we know that the orbiters are really there? Is ist because the independent researchers can monitor the launch and flying patterns from earth(with telescopes)? How do we know that the images transmitted don't come from some film studio?

Just some questions buzzing in my head after watching that clip...

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lightbeing

15-05-2007, 12:27 PM

These are the most famous images released by van Flandern as far as I know. One sesm to suggest large plant life. But http://www.mactonnies.com/cydoniaarchive.html has many interesting an alternative explanations.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/polarforestmars.jpg
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/spaceking.gif
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/wormisolated.jpg

Another great picture of a face, if it looks like a face it is a face:) The female picture is more striking than the most famous Cydonia one!............. Boy would I like to go to Mars, the exploring.....................................:)

hagbard_celine

15-05-2007, 01:20 PM

I'm glad van Flanderen quickly gets to the MGS photo that's been dubbed the "kitty litter" shot. It just goes to show that there is some deliberate duplicity going on. I can't believe the image editor took the eventual image, compared it to the kitty litter one and prefered the latter! No, NASA wanted a quick, simple Doug-and-Dave style emergency exit. "Look there's no face, see?" I'm ashamed to admit that I fell for that one. I didn't reject the rest of Cydonmia, only that the Face was a red herring.

zircon

16-05-2007, 12:58 AM

It's so difficult to know... I don't really go for the transport systems on Mars idea.. but it's possible... I think that large plant life could be there, there's no scientific reason i know of why not. If van Flandern can say so, I'd find that quite convincing myself.

gordonfreeman

16-05-2007, 07:33 AM

Evidence that Nasa is altering the True Colors of Mars!! :eek:

http://www.themarsrecords.com/mars_red_planet_colors.html

Mars really had life! And it still there are ETs living on that planet right now.

Boriska—boy from Mars - 03/12/2004 19:38

Sometimes, some children are born with quite fascinating talents, unusual abilities.

I was told the story of an unusual boy named Boriska from members of an expedition to the anomaly zone located in the north of the Volgograd region, most commonly referred to as “Medvedetskaya gryada”…

“Can you imagine, while everyone was sitting around the campfire at night, some little boy (about 7 years of age) suddenly asked everyone’s attention. Turned out, he wanted to tell them all about life on Mars, about its inhabitants and their flights to earth,” shares one of the witnesses. Silence followed. It was incredible! The little boy with gigantic lively eyes was about to tell a magnificent story about the Martian civilization, about megalithic cities, their spaceships and flights to various planets, about a wonderful country Lemuria, life of which he knew in details since he happened to descend there from Mars, had friends there…

Logs were cracking, night's fog enveloped the area and the immense dark sky with myriads of brightly lit stars seemed to conceal some sort of a mystery. His story lasted for about an hour and a half. One guy was smart enough to tape the entire narration.

Many were stunned by the two distinctive factors. First of all, the boy possessed exceptionally profound knowledge. His intellect was obviously far from that of a typical 7-year-old. Not every professor is capable of narrating the entire history of Lemuria and Lemurians and its inhabitants in such details. You will be unable to find any mentioning of this country in school textbooks. Modern science has not yet proved existence of other civilizations.

Second of all, we were all amazed by the actual speech of this young boy. It was far from the kind kids his age usually use. His knowledge of specific terminology, details and facts from Mars' and Earth’s past fascinated everyone.

“Why did he start the conversation in the first place,” said my interlocutor. “Perhaps, he was simply touched by the overall atmosphere of our camp with many knowledgeable and open-minded people,” continued he.

“Could he make this all up?”

“Doubtful”, objected my friend”. “To me this looks more like the boy was sharing his personal memories from past births. It is virtually impossible to make up such stories; one really had to know them.”

Today, after meeting with Boris' parents and getting to know the boy better, I begin to carefully sort out all the information obtained around that campfire. He was born in Volzhskii town in a suburban hospital, even though officially, based on the paperwork, his birthplace is the town of Zhirnovsk of Volgograd region. His birthday is January 11th, 1996. (Perhaps it will be helpful for astrologers).

His parents seem to be wonderful people. Nadezhda, Boriska's mother, is a dermatologist in a public clinic. She graduated from Volgograd medical institute not so long ago in 1991. The boy’s father is a retired officer. Both of them would be happy if someone could shed the light onto the mystery behind their child. In the meantime, they simply observe him and watch him grow.

-After Boriska was born, I noticed he was able to hold his head in 15 days, recalls Nadezhda. His first word “baba” he uttered when he was 4 months old and very soon afterward started talking. At age 7, he constructed his first sentence, “I want a nail.” He said this particular phrase after noticing a nail stuck in the wall. Most notably, his intellectual abilities surpassed his physical ones.

-How did those abilities manifest themselves?

-When Boris was just one year old, I started giving him letters (based on the Nikitin’s system) and guess what, at 1,5 he was able to read large newspaper print. It didn’t take long for him to get acquainted with colors and their shades. He began to paint at 2.

Then, soon after he turned 2, we took him to the children day care center. Teachers were all stunned by his talents and his unusual way of thinking. The boy possesses exceptional memory and an unbelievable ability to grasp new information. However, his parents soon noticed that their child had been acquiring information in his own unique way, from some place else…

-No one has ever taught him that, recalls Nadya. But sometimes, he would sit in a lotus position and start all these talks. He would talk about Mars, about planetary systems, distant civilizations…we couldn’t believe our own ears. How can a kid know all this? Cosmos, never-ending stories of other worlds and the immense skies, are like daily mantras for him since he was 2.

It was then that Boriska told us about his previous life on Mars, about the fact that the planet was in fact inhabited, but as a result of the most powerful and destructive catastrophe had lost its atmosphere and that nowadays all its inhabitants have to live in underground cities. Back then, he used to fly to earth quite often for trade and other research purposes. It seems that Boriska piloted his spaceship himself. This was during the times of the Lemurian civilizations. He had a Lemurian friend who had been killed right before his own eyes…

-A major catastrophe took place on earth. A gigantic continent was consumed by stormy waters. Then suddenly, a massive rock fell on a construction…by friend was there…, tells Boriska. I could not safe him. We are destined to meet some time in this life.

The boy envisions the entire picture of the fall of Lemuria as though it happened yesterday. He grieves the death of his best friend as though it was his fault.

One day, he noticed a book in his mother’s bag entitled “Where do we come from?” by Ernst Muldashev. One should have seen the kind of happiness and fascination this discovery triggered in the little boy. He’s been flipping through pages for hours, looking at sketches of Lemurians, photos of Tibet. He then started talking about high intellect of the Lemurians…(continued)

-But Lemuria ceased to exist minimum 800 000 years ago…, I uttered in response to his statements. Lemurians were 9 meters tall! Is that so? How can you remember all this?

-I do remember, replied the boy.

Later, he began recalling another book by Muldashev entitled “In Search of the City of Gods.” The book is mainly devoted to ancient tombs and pyramids. Boriska firmly stated that people will find knowledge under one of the pyramids (not the pyramid of Heops). It hasn’t been discovered yet. “Life will change once the Sphinx will be opened,” said he and added that the great Sphinx has an opening mechanism somewhere behind his ear (but he does not remember where exactly). The boy also talks with great passion and enthusiasm about the Mayan civilization. According to him, we know very little about this great civilization and its people.

Most interestingly, Boriska thinks that nowadays the time has finally come for the “special ones” to be born on earth. Planet’s rebirth is approaching. New knowledge will be in great demand, a different mentality of earthlings.

-How do you know about these gifted kids and why this is happening? Are you aware that they are called “indigo” kids?

-I know that they are being born. However, I haven't met anyone in my town yet. Perhaps may be this one girl named Yulia Petrova. She is the only one who believes me. Others simply laugh at my stories. Something is going to happen on earth; that is why these kids are of importance. They will be able to help people. The Poles will shift. The first major catastrophe with one of the continents will happen in 2009. Next one will take place in 2013; it will be even more devastating.

-Aren't you scared that your life may also going to end as a result of that catastrophe?

-No. I’m not afraid. I have lived through one catastrophe on Mars already. There still live people like us out there. But after the nuclear war, everything has burnt down. Some of those people managed to survive. They built shelters, new weaponry. There was also a shift of continents there, although the continent was not as large. Martians breathe gas. In case they arrived to our planet, they would have been all standing next to pipes and breathing in fumes.

-Do you prefer breathing oxygen?

-Once you are in this body, you have to breathe oxygen. However, Martians dislike this air, earth’s air, because it causes aging. Martians are all relatively young, about 30-35 years old. The amount of such Martian children will increase annually.

-Boris, why do our space stations crash before they reach Mars?

-Mars transmits special signals aimed at destroying them. Those stations contain harmful radiation.

I was amazed by his knowledge of this sort of radiation “Fabos”. This is absolutely true. Back in 1988 resident of Volzhsky Yuri Lushnichenko, a man with extrasensory powers attempted to warn Soviet leaders about the inevitable crash of the first Soviet space stations “Fobos 1” and “Fobos-2”. He also mentioned this sort of an “unfamiliar” and harmful for the planet radiation. Obviously, no one believed him then.

-What do you know about multiple dimensions? Do you know that one must fly not on straight trajectories, but maneuvering through the multi-dimensional space?

Boriska immediately rose to his feet and started to pour all the facts about UFOs. “We took off and landed on Earth almost momentarily!” The boy takes a chalk and begins drawing an oval object on a blackboard. “It consists of six layers,” he says. 25%--outer layer, made of durable metal, 30%--second layer made of something similar to rubber, the third layer comprises 30%--once again metal. The final 4% is composed of a special magnetic layer. “If we are to charge this magnetic layer with energy, those machines will be able to fly anywhere in the Universe.”

-Does Boriska have a special mission to fulfill? Is he aware of it?- I pose these questions to his parents and the boy himself.

-He says he can guess,- says his mother. He says he knows something about the future of Earth. He says information will play the most significant role in the future…

-Boris, how do you know all this?

-It is inside of me.

-Boris, tell us why do people get sick?

-Sickness comes from people's inability to live properly and be happy… You must wait for you cosmic half. One should never get involve and mess up other peoples’ destinies. People should not suffer because of their past mistakes, but get in touch with what’s been predestined for them and try to reach those heights and move on to conquer their dreams. (These are the exact words he was using).

You have to be more sympathetic and warmhearted. In case someone strikes you, hug your enemy, apologize yourself and kneel before him. In case someone hates you, love him with all your love and devotion and ask for forgiveness. These are the rules of love and humbleness. Do you know why the Lemurians died? I am also partially at blame. They did not wish to develop spiritually any more. They went astray from the predestined path thus destructing the overall wholeness of the planet. The Magic’s Path leads to dead end. Love is a True Magic!

-How do you know all this

-I know…Kailis…

-What did you say?

-I said “hello!” This is the language of my planet…

Full interview and main article link was removed.

http://reptilians.suddenlaunch3.com/index.cgi?board=PositiveAliens&action=display&num=1134144634

hagbard_celine

16-05-2007, 01:29 PM

Sorry, got to rush. I've only got time to cut and paste, but it's interesting:

What NASA Isn't
Telling You About Mars
Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
10-26-5

This book is a brand new look at what Mars really must be like, and reveals numerous important ancient Mars artifacts that NASA knows about and has been hiding all along.

We,ve all listened for years since we were children, to the endless stories about what the environment on Mars is and how no life could have ever lived on the planet.

So let's get right to the point. This author felt it was past time to look at the overall picture of what we have been told, using the tools of logic and common sense. And use NASA data to start connecting the dots.

Let's look at some of the common statements made about the planet:

* The atmosphere on the planet is 1% that of earth

* Gravity on the planet is 1/3 that of earth

* The ground is red, and the sky is red

* Its always been a lifeless planet

Let's look at these common beliefs about the "red planet" using the illuminating and sanitizing light of common sense:

THE PROOF: COLOR SHIFTING TO MAKE THE SKY RED

There are the NASA statements from about two years ago - "It's very hard to get the color right on Mars, images." Utter non-sense! ALL the spacecraft sent to Mars over the past 30 years have color calibration charts in one form or another, and have even included the American Flag. The vertical line scan camera of Viking and the CCD cameras used today could always be used to view the color charts.

However, scientists often have not calibrated the cameras using a color chart as they should have. As a result, we are usually shown a red sky and a surface with rocks which are reddish. The color chart's blue squares clearly become red, indicating a shift across the entire visible color spectrum. Green is in the middle of visible spectrum. Anyone with common sense knows that if the colors on the color chart are correct in a picture, then the remainder of the image MUST also be correct. We are talking about the SAME sun on Mars that illuminates our earth!

Even so, about two years ago a scientist was asked about the colors on Mars. He stated on television "it's very hard to get the colors right on Mars." Hard for who? Perhaps it is hard, if you must change it to red all the time. That would be a full-time job, and probably done behind closed doors.

WHY would they do tamper with color? Because it's psychological: since the early days of astronomy the planet has appeared red as viewed from earth in a telescope.
But wait a minute! Viewed from the moon, our earth appears like a "big, blue marble" as one astronaut described it. Are rocks and dirt on earth BLUE? Of course not. NASA conveniently forgets this "minor detail" and INSISTS that their images remain reddish, no matter how much their science data will be compromised. What nerve it takes to do this!

Every now and then, an image comes from the "red planet" with a blue sky.

The scientists go along with this insane theory in spite of wrong color chart colors. Why?

THE FOUNTAIN OF TRUTH?

How many space agencies on earth have successfully landed a rover on Mars?

Only one: NASA. That agency has been THE source for all so-called "facts" about the planet's surface - facts which are tailored for human psychology. Isn't it nice to be treated like a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed well, you know.

In short, we are told (and shown) what we are supposed to believe and absolutely nothing more. I proved this with more than 160 selected images taken straight from NASA computers.

THE GRAVITY IS TOO WEAK TO RETAIN AN ATMOSPHERE

First, we know ICE and weather exist on the planet. If the atmosphere is 1% that of earth, any ice would have boiled away or just evaporated. One doesn't need a physics degree to understand this. Water BOILS AWAY at room temperature in a laboratory vacuum chamber on earth, well before reaching .01 atmosphere (1 %.) For all practical purposes, .01 atmospheres is a VACUUM to water's boiling point and to air-breathing life-forms.

Here is a direct quote from a paper [3] written about the atmospheric pressure as measured by the Viking Landers:

The day to day atmospheric pressure variability, low in summer and higher in fall and winter, (especially at the northern site), is due to weather "fronts" quite similar to those on Earth Along with the annual cycle, meteorological fronts are indicated by the increasing variability of the pressure between fall and spring at these northern hemisphere sites as previously mentioned. The Lander 2, VL2, site is similar in latitude to Seattle, Paris or Vienna, while the southern, VL1 site, like Pathfinder, is similar in latitude to Hong Kong, Havana or Calcutta. Like on Earth, the frontal activity is less in the tropics and sub-tropics, e.g., the VL1 site. Typically, the fronts pass every few sols (mars days) on Mars, often resembling those of Earth except for the lack of rain, while at other times, they are far more regular.

Note the author's statement above, that planet has weather fronts like that of earth, except it doesn't rain. But a 1% atmosphere which is essentially a vacuum - having weather? How can the planet have weather without an atmosphere?

Evidence of frozen water on the planet is abundant. It's now claimed by NASA that any water at the poles is trapped under "a layer of frozen carbon dioxide" - what most of us commonly know as DRY ICE. Of course, it was never rationally explained just HOW that could happen.

If you have you ever worked with dry ice you know of its strange behavior. Frozen carbon dioxide (dry ice) is what NASA claims are laying on the ground at the poles. If you wrap up dry ice, no matter how well it is insulated what happens? In the span of a day or so it just DISAPPEARS without a trace. It returns to the gaseous state, unless you could lower the ambient temperature to less than -109.3F, or -79C. This is the known constant temperature of the surface of dry ice. The ONLY WAY to keep dry ice solid is to keep it in an environment colder than -109.3F, or -79C. And if the air pressure is lower it will evaporate even faster.

Mars is CONSIDERABLY WARMER than the temperature of dry ice by about 60 degrees. Could there be some sort of special physics on Mars that prevents any kind of ice from evaporating over millennia or even eons of time? So how can we know for certain the planet's overall surface is far warmer than -109.3F, or -79C?

The solar panels on the rover tell us the answer! All solar panel technology is based on semiconductor technology, which places definite limits on the lowest temperature it can operate at, and also the lowest temperature a solar panel can be exposed to without permanent damage.

Solar cell operating temperatures are -40ºF to 176ºF, or -40ºC to 80ºC [1]. Below -40ºC, solar cell output begins to drop dramatically. This is a long way from -109.3F. Most semiconductors can be permanently damaged when exposed to extreme cold below -60ºC.

Temperatures measured by the two Viking Landers varied from + 1° F, ( -17.2° C) to -178° F (107° C). This is far from being cold enough to keep carbon dioxide frozen, but just warm enough for solar cells to work.

The surface temperature in WINTER at the polar caps is BELIEVED (though not actually measured) to drop to -225° F, (-143° C) while the warmest soil occasionally reaches +81° F (27° C.) This is an estimated value from Viking Orbiter Infrared Thermal Mapper. [4] Solar cells will stop working, and could be permanently damaged at -143°C.

Thirty years ago the Viking Landers were powered with nuclear thermoelectric generators, not solar cells. These generators created 950 watts of heat to heat the inside of the Lander to keep electronics within safe operating limits. Only 50 watts of heat was converted to electricity for powering instrumentation and electronics.

Today we have rovers which are solar powered and without nuclear generators. If the average Mars temperature was cold enough to keep dry ice solid, solar cells on the rovers simply could not function. But we know this is not the case.

What does all this mean?

ANY carbon dioxide ice on the surface would have evaporated long ago, since the planet is not cold enough all the time to keep ice in solid form. It might be possible for ice to still be present at the bottom of a deep crater according to orbital images, but this hasn't been proven conclusively by ground exploration. We simply can't know for certain whether some or all of the ice at the bottom of those craters which have been found is water and/or CO2 ice.

All of this ties into whether or not the atmosphere is actually denser than we have been led to believe. And we shall see there is evidence it most likely is far denser than we have been told.

SOLAR PANELS DUSTED OFF BY A WIND - IN A NEAR VACUUM?

Then we have the interesting situation with the rovers themselves. Why have the rovers outlasted their design life? Do you recall the 1% atmosphere? On-board cameras have observed occasional dust storms which are apparently cleaning off the solar panels. NASA has released several videos on JPL's website comprising a number of still images sequenced together, which show dust-devils in action moving across the surface. A number of these movies can be viewed at
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20050506a.html

Note: As you read the following quote from a paper about dust accumulation, keep in mind that a SOL is one Martian solar day, equivalent to 24 hours and 39 minutes on earth.

"The rover solar array is accumulating dust at a rate of about a quarter of a percent of coverage per day according JPL. This is very close to the coverage of 0.22% predicted [G. Landis, "Dust Obscuration of Solar Arrays," Acta Astronautica, Vol. 38, No. 11, pp. 895-891 (1996)]. The deposition rate seems to be the same on the sols when the rover is in motion as it is on sols when the rover remains in place, indicating that the deposition is probably due to dust settling out of the atmosphere, not dust kicked up by Sojourners' motion."

But wait a minute - how could a planet with a near vacuum atmosphere have enough "air" to clean off these panels? Dust and dirt isn't weightless even on Mars and it still has mass, even in a lower gravity environment. Apparently NASA figured this out too, and the undeniable presence of dust devils soon became a problem for their 1% atmosphere theory. But they had a cure for the conflict that would allow them to keep the 1% value.

The solution? They simply changed their dust-devil theory to eliminate the atmospheric vortex part of the equation. The agency now claims these Martian dust devils are "Electrical vortices." The agency reminds one of an old Rockford Files episode. Jim Rockford in a state of frustration and disbelief after a series of problems from another character, just smiles and says "It just keeps on comin,, doesn't it?!"

What the space agency scientists must do to backup their new theory about dust-devil formation, is to provide a credible theory showing the cause of these "electrical vortices." This has not been done because their scientists answer to no one. And even more important, they regularly hide ground-breaking images which you shall see for yourself later.

There are no known thunderstorms on the planet, or any known sources of electrical disturbances. So why base a theory on this? Does that follow common sense?

The European Space Agency's orbiting spacecraft has recently detected METHANE from orbit. This gas will float in the air. We know that on earth ORGANIC MATERIAL generates the majority of methane on the surface. Every living person generates methane, too. It is one of the byproducts of life, and keeps products like Beano on the market.

So what's methane doing in Mars, orbit, a planet with no active volcanoes and supposedly no life at all? No answers or theories are forthcoming on that one, either. Yet there are images taken from orbit which have shown large areas are well populated by what appear to be huge circular shrubs or trees. Remember - these plants are living in a near vacuumjust 1% that of earth!

And what happened to "Beagle" - the European Space Agency's little robotic surface exploration vehicle that was scheduled to land on Mars? It went silent when it was about to land and no one knows why. Scientists believed it never made it to the surface in one piece. Was Beagle about to prove NASA's statements about the planet wrong?

We know the planet has a blue sky and has a far denser atmosphere than we have been told. It makes one wonder if ANYONE has ever MEASURED the atmosphere scientifically.

Here's another statement: "ITS COLD AND DARK ON MARS BECAUSE IT's SO FAR AWAY FROM THE SUN"

The rovers on Mars operate in the DAYTIME. Most of their systems are shut down at night to extend daytime operating time, according to JPL. Solar cells are not very efficient. Therefore, they require light levels close to that of earth outdoors to recharge the batteries, power the transmitters and instrumentation, the computers AND power the rover's SIX drive and SIX steering motors at the same time. Could a dim environment accomplish that? Not with today's solar cells, which have a peak efficiency of just 21%, as of this writing on Oct. 2005.

Here is another quote from an expert on solar cells: Regardless of size, a typical silicon PV cell produces about 0.5 - 0.6 volt DC under open-circuit, no-load conditions. The current (and power) output of a PV cell depends on its efficiency and size (surface area), and is proportional the intensity of sunlight striking the surface of the cell. For example, under peak sunlight conditions a typical commercial PV cell with a surface area of 160 cm^2 (~25 in^2) will produce about 2 watts peak power. If the sunlight intensity were 40 percent of peak, this cell would produce about 0.8 watts. [2]

Outside of the environmental issues discussed above, are there MORE LIES to deal with?

Yes, and I,ve saved the best one for last!

WOULD NASA FIND SIGNS OF INTELLIGENT LIFE AND NOT TELL US?

This definitely has been answered with a deafening YES, and I have the proof. Reviewing more than 10,000 images from the Spirit rover for 655 days of exploration has resulted in the discovery of DOZENS of artificially made objects. Most are only a few yards from the rover's camera. One must not be naïve, and think that since NASA has been silent about these objects, that they cannot exist. This is far from being the first time this trick has been pulled. Again the mushroom treatment is used on the public. On this subject, the BS is suffocating.

BACKGROUND ON SOME STARTLING ARTIFACTS

These objects include bricks and what appear to be building blocks and cubes, standing on one corner or just lying on the surface. These objects are apparently made from solid rock or a material like it.

And there are the ultimate in smoking guns: three different objects with CHARACTERS clearly visible on them, which are easy for anyone to see. Two of these images are included in this essay.

These are not images taken from orbit which are open to wild speculation about what is or is not artificial. These artifacts are just as real as the computer you are reading this on.

Below are only a few artifacts from the book which have been minimally sharpened or enlarged for clarity. NO manual "pixel twiddling" was ever performed on any image in this essay or in the book. Those artifacts with a yellow background are from the book's cover. The others are from pages in the book itself. NO changes were made to the artifacts themselves. What you see here is what they really are, for better or worse.

And then there are 160 more artifacts in the book that defy any explanation that cannot be easily debunked, if at all. Keep in mind that the distance of these artifacts from the camera is between 2ft. and 100ft. Panoramic camera source images for these artifacts were only available in JPEG form on NASA archive servers searched. Therefore, they cannot be sharpened much more than what you see below. Most objects are only 1 to 3 feet in size. Descriptions are not in any way meant to be absolute answers, just possibilities.

All the objects below are covered in far more detail in the book, including the exact SOL day they were photographed:

Block object bearing lettering in an unknown script. Who could have written it? NASA knows about this because they took this close-up. Note the shadow from the rover's strobe lamp and the closeness of the ground around it.

This object is similar to the strangely formed steel suspension arm found under some motor vehicles. This object was found lying up against a rock, in the position shown here. Rock was carefully removed from the image for clarity. Note the artifact's inside right angle bend (darkened area.)

A strange triangular artifact lying on the ground was about 50ft. from the camera. It has two protruding cylindrical objects on the right end, similar to vehicle headlights. A dark vertical disk-like object on the rear has what appears to be a shaft in the center. It was the triangle on the front laying on the ground up against it, which first caught my eye. The housing of the artifact is very similar in shade to the surrounding soil, probably because it is covered with dust. One could jokingly describe it as "an upright vacuum cleaner without a bag or handle." One can only guess at what this really is.

ARCHEOLOGISTS - WHO WERE THEY, WHAT YEAR AND FROM WHERE?

In the image below, it appears that a catalog number may have been written on this artifact. Archeologists do this when excavating a site. This object appears to have been lying there far longer than we can imagine. The artifact isn't buried deep under dust, dirt or debris or from winds that blow (dust devils) that cross the planet - which of course has no atmosphere. HOW is all this possible?

http://www.rense.com/general68/triangle.jpg

This artifact was about 50ft. from the camera, and is shaped like the letter "Y" with a bar across the top. It is reminiscent of the "Y" in the YMCA logo. It appears to have four handwritten numbers along the top edge, which upon close examination are closest to the numbers "5563." There is a white coating or cladding peeling back on the left end, and the bottom edge of the image reveals its thickness. Perhaps it was a vertical ornament which fell from the top of a building (More about that later.)

Above you have seen only 4 of the objects from more than 160 images. Not all may be as striking as this, and yet some are far more amazing. Another one (shown in the book) has a knife or metal edge clearly protruding out of a rock or handle. The image was a close-up, taken about 1 foot from the camera. The edge is so sharp and well defined, that sharpening the image with professional image processing didn't change the blade's appearance. Since this was also a close-up, NASA KNOWS it's there.

There are MANY other artifacts too numerous to mention. All of these artifacts - most LESS than a stone's throw from the camera, are undeniable. This ancient extraterrestrial artifact collection is like nothing else ever published before. About two years ago I stated on a radio show that if NASA ever found any signs of life they would not tell us.

These discoveries prove my statement was correct.

The hand-writing on the artifact above raises some very tough questions no one is answering:

1. Are these an archeologist's CATALOG NUMBERS?

2. WHO was the archeologist?

3. WHERE did the person come from?

4. Was the person who wrote these numbers from our future and they traveled to Mars?

5. Is this confirmation that that we already have a base on Mars? Many in black projects have been saying this for years. This could mean the catalog numbers were written by someone in that program. Some have called it "Alternative 3."

6. A movie titled "Capricorn 1" 25 years ago was about a staged moon landing. Could it be the entire Spirit and Opportunity rover explorations are STAGED - and what we are looking at is a mistake, an exposed number like those used for stage productions to keep track of props? Let's hope not!

Everyone who has examined these images has been astounded, just as I was when first finding these artifacts.

WHAT HAS NASA DONE ABOUT THESE TREASURES?

Silence is what we hear. When discovery of new objects averaged 2 to 3 per day, they moved the Spirit rover AWAY FROM THE AREA to again "look for signs of water" elsewhere, despite all these groundbreaking discoveries.

Here is an analogy of what they,ve done: A beachcomber with a metal detector finds two items together - one is a rusted modern iron nail and the other a solid gold ring. The unappreciative beachcomber keeps the rusted nail and throws the gold ring into the ocean!

With NASA staying on their pointless, pathetic and absurd search for signs of water they have tossed away many such gold rings.

At that location up to three artifacts a day were being found. Then they sent the rover on a one-way trip AWAY from this area to featureless, sandy terrain. That is where it is roaming today. All they explored was a 2 mile strip of a 90 mile wide crater!

This is L.I.E.S. - Lies and Intentionally Engineered Stupidity.

The discovery of signs of LIFE and a denser atmosphere present on the "red, barren lifeless planet" may force them to swallow their pride. This is the same brand of pride and arrogance of always being "right" that caused the first and second shuttle failures. And several other deep space missions to fail - failures that happened some 25 years AFTER the Voyager and Viking spacecraft missions which all worked perfectly. All four of those vehicles outlived their design lifetimes by many years. That's because 25 years ago, engineering employed common sense - a very rare commodity today.

I challenge ANYONE to explain away the mechanical objects as "products of erosion."

Where are those debunkers when we need them? In hiding.

The agency NEEDS a discovery of life on Mars to obtain the massive funding required for a manned mission to reach Mars. If the artifact with "5563" written on it is a fake, (which requires someone on the INSIDE to confirm this) then the ENTIRE rover mission has been faked.

A POSSIBLE THEORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT GUSEV CRATER IN THE ANCIENT PAST

Gusev doesn't have the usual deep concave shape - instead, it's like a giant, shallow 90 mile wide plain with a wall around the outside according to orbital imaging.

Here's what we can see: there are blocks from Giza pyramid size down to brick size, scattered everywhere at Gusev. Most of these are BLACKENED on just one or two faces, indicating a tremendous explosion took place. These artifacts are most likely the remains of a city or town that was present, perhaps many millennia ago.

And then there are numerous MECHANICAL ARTIFACTS.

A likely scenario is that a space vehicle exploded high above the surface, blackening the rocks and blocks, destroying the city or town and forming the crater. Then shortly afterward, mechanical fragments from the space vehicle rained down on the area which are still lying there today, although they are now probably fossilized. The implications of this are enormous and cannot be overstated.

What we don't know - is just how deep down the debris field goes.

IMPLICATIONS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE

Someone credible in the space agency needs to come forward and say, "Yes, they already know about the artificial objects but don't want the public to know." They can open the door by setting the example for others. Then they too, can step through the doorway out into the sanitizing light of day - opening it wide for all to see the proverbial wizard inside, pulling levers which manipulate public information behind the curtain.

Let's push the barn door open all the way, and send the antiquated Brookings Report from 50 years ago into the repository of all obsolete documents - the shredder. That cursed document laid the foundation for the on-going cover-up to this day. The report instituted a cover-up program that has created employment for many thousands of people whose sole function is to enforce "security."

"Security personnel" have ruined the lives of untold thousands of people by intimidation and discrediting them, who have had close encounters they didn't even ask for. They have also ruined the lives of those who have stumbled upon "forbidden artifacts" or have had contact with certain ET races living on earth. This author is waiting for the trouble to start for him, too - for bringing these images out into the sanitizing light of day.

I don't expect the images to remain on their servers for very long. This is why I provide in the book ALL the information on where to find the original source images. Nothing is hidden from the light of day, as some who have sold other Mars images have done. The barn door MUST remain open.

THIS BOOK CAUSES FEELINGS IN THE READER NEVER FELT BEFORE

The artifacts on Mars are startling, revealing and in fact some have called them "amazing, almost scary." Frank Whalen stated repeatedly on his radio show Frankly Speaking Radio (RBN) with this author on Oct. 21 2005, that "this is explosive, ground breaking and will shake the world." He said it did hit him "like a hammer." He also stated "he has never read anything like this before."

Be warned that the book's contents are outside the paradigm you are comfortable with. If you want to escape the mushroom treatment once and for all, this book is for you. But if you are someone whose religion believes that God only created life on this earth and no where else - then you will be in for the shock of your life. After you read the book, all the images instill in one a feeling that you,ve been to Mars yourself and have seen it firsthand.

The book covers more than 10 times the material of what you have just read.

You can see 10 sample pages for free taken from the book at www.data4science.net/book

These pages also show other artifacts not included in this essay.

Ted Twietmeyer

Author of "What NASA Isn't Telling You About Mars"

References:

[1] Temperature specifications from two different solar cell companies:

http://www.solar-cells.net

http://www.solarenergyalliance.com/flexible_solar_modules.htm

[2] Details about solar cell output vs. light level:
http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/pvt/pvbasics/

[3] http://www-k12.atmos.washington.edu/k12/resources/mars_
data-information/pressure_overview.html

[4] http://mars.sgi.com/science/atmospheric.html

http://www.rense.com/general68/nasaisnt.htm
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I mean to misbehave

chattanova

27-05-2007, 10:52 AM

Candor City
exact location: 6°S, 72.5°W

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/170/marscandorcitynt3.gif
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8577/ab104205locpe7.jpg
The city is located on a hill between Ophir and Candor Chasma. You can see remains of buildings, about 40 to 200 meters wide and 10 to 100 meters high. It is almost impossible, that these shapes could be produced by natural erosion processes.

The city might be one of the seven legendary cities on Mars which are known through old sagas.

chattanova

27-05-2007, 11:12 AM

The Tempelpyramid:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2752/ab104205templees7.gif

Candor City:
Alignment on lines
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8683/ab104205lineslargejs2.gif

edges of the buildings
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5417/ab104205edgesie5.gif

Pyramid on Mars
about 2 km side-length
Elysium region
16.6° N, 198.4° W http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8212/elysiumpyramidsod1.gif

The face:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4813/originalox4.jpg

snake?:http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4107/2p211586055ednas00p2265bk0.jpg

chattanova

27-05-2007, 11:22 AM

Amazing, check this out

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/120/mounts-n-pits.htm

...something is going on at Mars...

chattanova

27-05-2007, 11:26 AM

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/119/forest-biodiversity-10.htm

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/118/forest-biodiversity-9.htm

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/117/forest-biodiversity-8a.htm

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/116/forest-bio-diversity-7.htm

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/115/forest-life-biodiversity-6.htm

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/114/forest-biodiversity-5-1.htm

chattanova

27-05-2007, 11:27 AM

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/113/kaiser-crater-illusions.htm

chattanova

27-05-2007, 11:46 AM

http://mars-news.de/life/mgs-anomalies.html

chattanova

27-05-2007, 11:57 AM

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/613/lakeis1.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2231/lakeatcraterbottomxu8.jpg

chattanova

27-05-2007, 12:02 PM

Interestingly shaped 4km large monolith in Ganges Chasma.
Noteworthy are also the bright white color and the alignment towards the 4 cardinal points!

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7293/monolithce3.png

zircon

27-05-2007, 12:34 PM

Gordonfreeman, HagbardCeline, Chattanova, fantasic posts, thank you so much... I will spend some great time pouring over that info....
Brilliant.

truth_junkie

06-06-2007, 04:12 AM

chattanova

06-06-2007, 05:42 PM

zircon

06-06-2007, 09:30 PM

Hi,
thank you all for all the info - I have been hungry to learn more about Mars (particularly about Cydonia, but now my eyes have been opened even more).
I have read many opinions about the face on mars that it is split in half - half man and half cat or something.
Personally, I don't really see the cat, at least in the image I'm starting from (from NASA's site from the Cassini - I'll include it). It seems to me that that side of the monument has been more heavily eroded or blasted.
So in Photoshop I duplicated and flipped the man side to see what it would look like as a whole face. Then, to make the features more clear I inverted the image, boosted the contrast and burned in the areas I saw as features.
It sounds like a lot of editing, but it really isn't. Once you see my version of the picture you can go back to the original and make out all of the same information - it's just enhanced.
I realize that the face I brought out looks nothing like most of the renditions we have seen, but I think it is of value - especially with the small amount of material we have to go by.
And besides - it's damn cool!
Original image (only rotated):
http://www.jasonturiano.com/Additional/face_on_mars_original.jpg

And enhanced version:
http://www.jasonturiano.com/Additional/face_on_mars.jpg

Yes..I think it's a very interesting image and idea. I've been doing a fair bit of analysis of left-and right facial aspects and posted images on this site, though of course a mask like this would normally be totally symmetrical.. but part of the face could easily have been damaged and eroded, leaving the left-side only. Thus the full face should indeed be a composite of the one side that remains more clearly... I too see not so much a cat but an unusual humanoid being. However it must be said that the normal proportions of a human being, the position of the eye-line (which would be more central) and mouth, and head-shape, do not convince me that this is supposed to be a realistic portrait but something more symbolic..

amadeus

09-06-2007, 08:07 AM

To me it seems like you used the latest "corrupted" NASA picture of the 'Face on Mars'. On which they have used a low pass filter on the original(that no one has seen) to make it convieniently blurry....

Have you tried the same with the Viking pictures?

truth_junkie

10-06-2007, 05:09 AM

If anyone has a suggestion for a picture they would like me to try a similar technique with, send me a link or post the picture.

chattanova

10-06-2007, 04:25 PM

Interesting stuff

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070606/sc_space/deepholefoundonmars

zircon

10-06-2007, 09:17 PM

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/070605_mars_pit_01.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/070605_mars_pit_02.jpg

chattanova

17-06-2007, 10:54 AM

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/070605_mars_pit_01.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/070605_mars_pit_02.jpg

I wonder whats down there:confused: or whats being hidden:rolleyes:

chattanova

17-06-2007, 10:56 AM

"Inca City" is the informal name given by Mariner 9 scientists in 1972 to a set of intersecting, rectilinear ridges that are located among the layered materials of the south polar region of Mars. Their origin has never been understood; most investigators thought they might be sand dunes, either modern dunes or, more likely, dunes that were buried, hardened, then exhumed. Others considered them to be dikes formed by injection of molten rock (magma) or soft sediment into subsurface cracks that subsequently hardened and then were exposed at the surface by wind erosion.

The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) has provided new information about the "Inca City" ridges, though the camera's images still do not solve the mystery. The new information comes in the form of a MOC red wide angle context frame taken in mid-southern spring, shown above left and above right. The original Mariner 9 view of the ridges is seen at the center. The MOC image shows that the "Inca City" ridges, located at 82°S, 67°W, are part of a larger circular structure that is about 86 km (53 mi) across. It is possible that this pattern reflects an origin related to an ancient, eroded meteor impact crater that was filled-in, buried, then partially exhumed. In this case, the ridges might be the remains of filled-in fractures in the bedrock into which the crater formed, or filled-in cracks within the material that filled the crater. Or both explanations could be wrong. While the new MOC image shows that "Inca City" has a larger context as part of a circular form, it does not reveal the exact origin of these striking and unusual martian landforms.

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/8/6/17/f_incacity1m_a6807f5.gif
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/8/6/17/f_incacity2m_e28d114.gif

chattanova

17-06-2007, 10:59 AM

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/8/6/17/f_marssunsetm_1499fd0.jpg

zircon

17-06-2007, 12:06 PM

I wonder whats down there:confused: or whats being hidden:rolleyes:

Umm. Dare I say it - that it looks almost as if it's... hollow! Anyway there is no light entering the space and it doesn't appear to have any liquid (frozen or otherwise) content.. the surface over it seems to be snow or such-like, and the thickness can be only around a few metres. Veerrry interesting..!

zircon

17-06-2007, 12:23 PM

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/8/6/17/f_marssunsetm_1499fd0.jpg

An amazing picture Chattanova. Just imagine what it might be like living on a planet more distant than ours and looking towards the sun, .. towards Earth!

Velikovski (in "Worlds in Collision") was in no doubt that The Earth's orbit was, in ancient historical times, closer to the sun than it is now. Jupiter increased in size and experienced a terrible explosion, Venus was created as a ball of firey material ejected towards the Sun, and entered into "combat" with Mars. Another planet (now destroyed - "Tiamat" - see the book 'The day the Earth nearly died' ) that was a watery body, probably much larger than Earth, was dislodged also...

Here from the Velikovski Archive: http://www.varchive.org/index.htm

Deification of the Planets

"The ancients were sufficiently enlightened to know that the planets are large rocks like the Earth that circle on orbits.(8) And this makes the modern scholars wonder: knowing that the planets are rocks, why did the ancients believe that they are gods?(9)

The key to this problem, which is the major problem of all classical mythology, is already in our hands. The planet Venus was deified because of its dramatic appearance and because of the havoc it brought to the world, as described in Worlds in Collision. I illuminated also the events which made Mars a feared god. Divine qualities were ascribed to the other planets because of the catastrophes they wrought in earlier ages. "

Jupiter, Gold, and the Birth of Athene
Pindar, speaking of the island of Rhodes, says that Zeus “rained down on the city with golden flakes of snow” at the time Athene was born from Zeus’ head, “shouting with a far-ringing cry, and all Heaven and Mother Earth shuddered before her.” (1) Homer also says that “upon them [the people of Rhodes] wondrous wealth was shed by the son of Cronus.” Strabo, after quoting Homer, adds that other writers “say that gold rained on the island the time when Athena was born from the head of Zeus, as Pindar states.” (2)

Gold-bearing gravel—with ingots in it—originated from outside of the Earth and, if we should look upon the Greek legend of Zeus and the golden rain in Rhodes as containing revealing elements, then the ingots came from Jupiter.(3) It could be meteoric gold, and as to the origin the ancients could err; but the event happened in human memory, actually during the Early Bronze Age, or at its end.(4)

In 1866 a human skull was unearthed in the interior of Bald Mountain near Altaville, in Calaveras County, California. The skull of Bald Mountain was reported to have been found in the shaft of a gold mine, in a layer of auriferous (gold-bearing) gravel, beneath four layers of lava, each separated from the other by four layers of gravel. The skull did not differ in structure or dimensions from the skull of modern man; however, it was fossilized.(5) In the gold-bearing gravel of Calaveras were also unearthed fossilized bones of the mammoth, the great mastodon, the tapir, horse, hippopotamus, rhinoceros and camel, all extinct animals in pre-Columbian America. But geologically the layer in which it was found belongs to the Tertiary, and therefore a great embarrassment was in store for the geologists and evolutionists. They divide the strata according to the fossils found in them and hold that in the Tertiary there could have been no human beings, for it is an age before the advent of man. But we have seen in the case of the Dead Sea that the great upheavals ascribed to the end of the Tertiary took place at a much later time, actually in the time of the Patriarchs, which is the end of the Early Bronze Age period. The auriferous gravels of California and of the Ural Mountains had their origin at this same time.

The rain of gold on Rhodes is assigned by Pindar to the time when Athene was born from the head of Zeus. The expulsion of the protoplanet Venus from the body of Jupiter followed, by decades or by centuries, the contact of Saturn and Jupiter, and the fantasy of the peoples regarded Venus as a child of Jupiter, conceived to him by Saturn.

The ancient Persians called Venus Tishtrya, “a magnificent and glorious star which Ahura Mazda [i.e., Jupiter] has established as master and overseer of all the stars.” (6) Plutarch described the events in the following terms: “Then Horomazes [Ahura Mazda], having magnified himself to three times his size, removed himself as far from the sun as the sun is distant from the earth . . . and one star, seirios [i.e., Tishtrya, or Venus] he established above all others as a guardian and watcher.” (7)

shadow cat

18-06-2007, 06:19 AM

Umm. Dare I say it - that it looks almost as if it's... hollow! Anyway there is no light entering the space and it doesn't appear to have any liquid (frozen or otherwise) content.. the surface over it seems to be snow or such-like, and the thickness can be only around a few metres. Veerrry interesting..!

Hi, Found this, quite a good theory I thought...

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/121/mars-dark-hole.htm
Mars Mysterious Dark Hole

:)

zircon

18-06-2007, 06:32 PM

Very interesting, thanks...

chattanova

22-06-2007, 07:52 PM

Pyramid on Mars
about 2 km side-length
Elysium region
16.6° N, 198.4° W http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8212/elysiumpyramidsod1.gif

Isn't the position of those pyramids (down-right) the exact positon of the orions belt? And then also like them in Egypt? Weird

chattanova

15-08-2007, 10:19 PM

Coincidence or not ?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/forbidden-planet.htm

http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/9/8/15/f_image033m_f9677fc.jpg

How could they know in 58?

http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/9/8/15/f_image056m_a33488c.jpg

lightbeing

16-08-2007, 08:49 AM

An amazing picture Chattanova. Just imagine what it might be like living on a planet more distant than ours and looking towards the sun, .. towards Earth!

Indeed, this would be a truly humbling experience to stand on Mars and look back at earth as a star!:eek:

lightbeing

16-08-2007, 08:50 AM

hagbard_celine

16-08-2007, 03:59 PM

Coincidence or not ?

The more I go through life the more and more I begin to think that there's no such thing as coincidence.

They may well have known, subconsciously at least.

lightbeing

16-08-2007, 04:15 PM

The more I go through life the more and more I begin to think that there's no such thing as coincidence.

They may well have known, subconsciously at least.

Agreed hagbard, everything happens for a reason.................

synergy777

17-08-2007, 10:58 PM

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=mission+to+mars

watch this

The final scene from Mission to Mars where the Martian shows the Earthlings how life on Earth was created and evolved....mission to mars evolution aliens martians

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...ch&plin dex=0

chattanova

23-08-2007, 10:36 PM

Martian soil may contain life ! ! !

The soil on Mars may contain microbial life!

Joop Houtkooper of the University of Giessen, Germany, will declare on Friday the Viking spacecraft may have found signs of a weird life form based on hydrogen peroxide on the subfreezing, arid Martian surface.

His analysis of one of the experiments carried out by the Viking spacecraft suggests that 0.1 percent of the Martian soil could be of biological origin.

That is roughly comparable to biomass levels found in some Antarctic permafrost, home to a range of hardy bacteria and lichen.

Developing....

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm

chattanova

26-08-2007, 10:07 AM

Organic Life On Mars?

Here are additional images from Mars which appear to show organic life. This also supports the orbiting ESA spacecraft detection of ammonia in the upper atmosphere.

http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/9/8/26/f_sol1m_18daf64.jpg

microlife - sol386.jpg SOL 386 - Is this living or fossilized organic life? There are other interesting objects in this image which may or may not be sand and rocks.

Full story here - http://www.rense.com/general78/color.htm

scuzzelbutt

01-09-2007, 06:12 AM

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZCa.htm ....go down to media and listen to the windows media file ( all ) , very interesting . by the way i am a beleiver ( ufo's )

chattanova

02-09-2007, 11:18 AM

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Encounters during the Apollo moon missions and Space Shuttle flights.
The pictures of Mars show The Face, Pyramids, Inca-City, Artificial patterns, clouds in Mars' atmosphere, structures behind the Rover vehicle(which could very well be fake)
And the story of a mysterious shadow above Mars' surface, already to be seen elsewhere on youtube.

chattanova

02-09-2007, 11:21 AM

http://www.google.com/mars/

catfood

03-09-2007, 08:59 PM

Viking atmospheric measurements
Composition
95.32% carbon dioxide
2.7% nitrogen
1.6% argon
0.13% oxygen
0.07%carbon monoxide
0.03% water vapor
trace neon, krypton, xenon,ozone, methane

Surface pressure 1-9 millibars, depending on altitude;
average 7 mb

Earth's atmosphere
78.084%Nitrogen
20.946%Oxygen
0.934%Argon
0.038%Carbon dioxide
>1%Water vapor
0.002%Other

I think the marshin atmosphere cud sustain life now aseptically plant life. The only real obstacle is liquid water.

hagbard_celine

04-09-2007, 10:26 AM

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6098058339072523623&q=redstar&total=301&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

This is a long film, but you have to watch it all the way through to appreciate the scope of what's being suggested. The first shot of the city didn't impress me; it just looked like a jumble of rocks, but after I'd been through the image analysis I rewound the film and watched the pan shot of the city again and saw everything. The stepped pyramids are particularly obviously artificial, but the narrator is a bit too speculative (even by my standards: Mr Irrational-and Proud-of-It 2007!) when he says that the shrines might have been used for sacrifice. This is only because they resemble the pyramids of the preColumbian American civilizations, where victims were sacrificed to the Gods.

We know nothing of the species and culture that created these objects. If they come from beings that lived on Mars when it was Earthlike and had a viable atmosphere and surface water then they are billions of years old. Not millions, billions. They are far older than many of the natural formations of Earth (Unless the stuff about Mars being different to what we've been told is true). How can we jump to such conclusions?

catfood

04-09-2007, 09:21 PM

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6098058339072523623&q=redstar&total=301&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

This video has sum information about carbon dioxide thet has interesting repercussions for the global warming scam.

hagbard_celine

06-09-2007, 09:16 AM

This video has sum information about carbon dioxide thet has interesting repercussions for the global warming scam.

Yes. Mars does experience some greenhouse warming that can raise its temperature to 78 fahrenheit, but nearly all the time it's well below the freezing point of water. The planet's average teperature at the equator is 20 or 30 degrees colder than Antarctica. At the south pole the atmosphere itself freezes into an ice cap!

But the fact that Mars' atmosphere is made up principley of carbon dioxide doesn't match the Earth's climatology models seeing as the levels of CO2 in Earth's atmosphere are tiny. Mars may be almost twice as far from the sun as the Earth, but the lower solar energy should be more than negated by the enormous CO2 bulk of the atmosphere. It should be a hothouse planet like Venus!

Some might say that this is because the atmospher of mars is very thin, just ten milibars, but as we've already discussed on this forum, that is highly questionable. Mars probably has an atmosphere at least as dense as Earth's.

god is love

09-09-2007, 02:05 PM

Click here for a great resource of Mars Anomalies , life , water & civilization .

http://marsanomalyresearch.com/

hagbard_celine

10-09-2007, 02:20 PM

Click here for a great resource of Mars Anomalies , life , water & civilization .

http://marsanomalyresearch.com/

Thanks. That looks like a great site :).

chattanova

27-09-2007, 02:37 PM

Is there life underground on Mars?

Is there life (in caves) on Mars?
Sunday, September 23, 2007

Caves have been found on Mars – and they could be home to alien life, scientists said on Sunday.

The entrances to seven possible caverns on the slopes of a 16km-high (10mile) Martian volcano called Arsia Mons were spotted by Nasa satellites.

The find will fuel suggestions that life may exist in 'underground habitats' on the Red Planet. The caves could one day become shelters for astronauts, scientists at the US space agency said.

The holes named Dena, Chloe, Wendy, Annie, Abbey, Nicki and Jeanne were described as 'very dark, nearly circular features' ranging from about 100m (328ft) to 250m (820ft) across.

They may be at least 100m (300ft) deep and the only natural structures capable of protecting life from meteor strikes, radiation and solar flares that bombard the planet's surface.

Astronomer Tim Titus of the US Geological Survey said: 'Somewhere on Mars, caves might provide a protected niche for past or current life.

'Whether these are just deep vertical shafts or openings into big caverns, they are entries to under the surface of Mars.'

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=67259&in_page_id=34

hagbard_celine

27-09-2007, 06:52 PM

Is there life underground on Mars?

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=67259&in_page_id=34

If Mars used to be a lush green planet then after it changed, it's quite likely that life has been better preserved underground than on the surface because of radiation and meterorite bombardment etc.

chattanova

02-10-2007, 02:58 PM

http://img39.picoodle.com/img/img39/9/10/2/f_1102skullcom_428943b.jpg

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/10/2/f_2102skullclm_c766004.jpg

http://http//www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2006/102/mars-humanoid-skull.htm

:confused::confused::confused:

clint web

02-10-2007, 08:14 PM

If there was plant life on mars i'm sure there would be no cover up of this. I don't think plants would cause a lot of panic.

chattanova

02-10-2007, 08:21 PM

If there was plant life on mars i'm sure there would be no cover up of this. I don't think plants would cause a lot of panic.

If we got an indication of life in forms of trees on mars that would mean there are life other places than on earth and also that it's probably life a whole lot other places.

I don't think they care if heres panic or not ,they just want to dumb us down as much as possible.

hagbard_celine

03-10-2007, 06:17 PM

If we got an indication of life in forms of trees on mars that would mean there are life other places than on earth and also that it's probably life a whole lot other places.

I don't think they care if heres panic or not ,they just want to dumb us down as much as possible.

It would pique our interest and cause us to life our heads from our three-up-two-down daily drudgery and take an interest in the world around us. That's dangerous enough if you're in power and want to stay there!

clint web

03-10-2007, 09:36 PM

It would pique our interest and cause us to life our heads from our three-up-two-down daily drudgery and take an interest in the world around us. That's dangerous enough if you're in power and want to stay there!

That's a good point.

You've no doubt heard of seti and their desktop application that searches for signs of life in our galaxy. If they actually found something, do you think the government would cover it up?

Your thoughts?

hagbard_celine

04-10-2007, 11:21 AM

That's a good point.

You've no doubt heard of seti and their desktop application that searches for signs of life in our galaxy. If they actually found something, do you think the government would cover it up?

Your thoughts?

Yes I think they probably would. The brilliant movie Contact deals with the political, technological and social impact of such a discovery.

The failure of SETI (After what I've just written I ask myself if it really has failed!) probably comes from the assumptions it makes about alien civlizations. It assumes that they have the means and will to use radio waves to communicate. We don't know this. We can't assume anything about an alien intelligence. It could be that we're the only kids on the block that ever used radio waves because all others went straight from sound waves to telepathy. Why knows?

heart

04-10-2007, 01:45 PM

SETI discovered a signal on August 15th, 1977 its known as the Wow signal. The volunteer (Jerry Ehman) who spotted the pattern on the paper logs wrote Wow in the margin. They didnt cover that up and having enthusiastic volunteers doing the work doesn't make for good cover ups.

http://www.damninteresting.net/content/wowsignal.gif

Here's an explanation of what "6EQUJ5" means (http://www.bigear.org/6equj5.htm)

The signal was received at the Big Ear radio observatory in Ohio it came from the direction of the constellation Sagittarius, it lasted seventy two seconds at about 1420.456 MHz before it faded away.

The Big Ear radio observatory.

http://www.naapo.org/W8JK/Images/BigEar-s.jpg

Some thought the Wow signal might be down to interstellar scintillation but this was disproved when the same patch of sky was scanned by the Very Large Array in New Mexico. Interestingly the 1420 MHz signal is in a protected part of the spectrum in which terrestrial transmitters are forbidden to transmit. This rules out the possibility of the strong signal originating on Earth and being reflected back by space debit.

The VLA.

http://www.vla.nrao.edu/genpub/tours/wideview.jpg

Over 50 times they scanned that part of the sky for the signal and some extremely faint sources of radio emissions were detected but nothing on the scale of the Wow signal.

Hagbard Celine i think you might be a little confused their not looking for a Radio 1 type signal. What happens with that type of signal is that the radio station's transmitter is encoding information in the radio signal (modulating it in either frequency or amplitude) that gets decoded by your radio so that it knows what sounds to make. There's no reason to believe that the ET's would be doing the same thing. And, even if they were, we'd have no idea how to decode it to figure out what the sounds are supposed to be. As i state below hydrogen the most abundant element radiates at around 1420 MHz. Any technologically advanced civilization that wants to study the galaxy will be looking at this wavelength.

Even if a civilization did develop technology the same way we did, it would probably change technologies rapidly. Radiating large amounts of power (ie something remotely detectable) into space is very wasteful, so over time civilizations like ours would probably try to find methods that don't involve broadcasting signals everywhere. Broadcast TV was going strong from the 60s until recently, but now everything is going the way of cable, which can't be detected from a distance. So to detect our TV transmissions, aliens would have to be specifically looking our way in the right 40 year time period, or they would pretty much miss our "strong tv signal" period of evolution.

Also, higher frequency radiation doesn't travel well for long distances. It's easily scattered by small particles, for example interstellar dust. The SETI people look at long wavelength radio signals for a couple reasons. First, radio waves travel straight through the large amounts of dust in our galaxy, and second, hydrogen (the most abundant element) radiates at around 1420 MHz. Any technologically advanced civilization that wants to study the galaxy will be looking at this wavelength and understand its importance, so if you want to contact another civilization, sending signals at this wavelength could attract attention. (Or you could send signals at a multiple of this wavelength.) Cell phone signals from across the galaxy would never make it to us, plus, once again, they might only be using this technology for a very short time.

Another problem is that signals have to be strong for us to detect them. Most emissions from Earth (the exception is some radar transmissions) would not be detectable with our current systems at the distance of the nearest star. And there is a lot of noise from signals on Earth which makes it difficult to detect faint signals. SETI routinely finds signals that are produced on Earth or in Earth orbit. In fact, there are only a few frequency bands dedicated to any type of astronomy, and outside these frequency ranges (sometimes even inside them) there is so much interference from our communications that detecting faint signals is impossible.

hagbard_celine

09-10-2007, 09:21 PM

hagbard_celine

11-10-2007, 07:16 PM

Heart, SETI have a strict policy on revealling information. One of the things they said to me when I was a member of SETI@Home was "Don't approach the media yourself if you see something interesting; inform us first." Did you see the movie "Contact"? You'll remember that the chief scientist, played by Jodie Foster, gets into trouble for telling the media before letting the president know. A White House bigwig goes up to her and says "You're sending this news all over the world might consititute as breach of national security." I bet it does!

corivss

14-10-2007, 06:56 AM

But we still assume that they still use elecctromagnetic waves. We also assume that elecctromagnetic waves are the same in their part of the universe as they are in ours.

I would go into more detail, but I'm too tied to talk. Sorry.

I don't think we still assume that other life forms on various planets use elecctromagnetic waves. From what I've read and heard, it's our best bet of contact. Is a better option available?

catfood

15-10-2007, 08:12 PM

Looking at are current state of affairs thay might not want to make contact.
http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/pathfind.jpg

hagbard_celine

16-10-2007, 12:03 AM

Looking at are current state of affairs thay might not want to make contact.
http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/pathfind.jpg

Yes, we're kind of like the smelly, drunk abusive git of the universe. Our neighbours give us a wide berth.:D

chattanova

15-11-2007, 05:35 PM

NASA finds 3 toed print on mars

Historic Finding
Footprints on Mars

NASA photographs find possible footprints on the Martian surface

Did another vehicle land on Mars?

A suspicious shadow crossing over Sojourner, the Mars rover vehicle, sent Pathfinder scientists scrambling to find an explanation. Under pressure from NSA representatives from Area 51 (NSAa51), NASA publicly claimed that Sojourner was suffering from another software glitch that caused it to become trapped on one of the rocks.
In the meantime the focused Pathfinder's cameras on anything that might shed light as to the origin of the shadow. For two days they turned up nothing, until photo analysts found suspicious depressions in an area that previously seemed clean.
NASA photographs find Martian footprints
The photographs, when subjected to computer analysis, surprised everyone at NASA. They revealed the footprints of a three-toed creature, which mission director Golembek named "ET" after the popular movie character who also had three toes.

PICTURES:

http://www.totalthinker.com/Mars/Footprints/footprint.html#

hagbard_celine

16-11-2007, 12:56 PM

NASA finds 3 toed print on mars

I see they got the old airbrush out again.:rolleyes:

chattanova

16-11-2007, 03:05 PM

Mysterious Spots On Mars' South Pole

http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/5/11/16/f_070521dalmam_f55caa8.jpg

"Dalmatian Spots" of Mars' South Pole

Mysterious dark spotting on Mars’ south polar ice cap provides numerous clues to the nature of electrical events in the region. But NASA scientists show no interest in the charged particle streams that, evidence suggests, continually alter the surface.

For almost nine years now, planetary scientists have commented on strange events occurring in and around the south pole of Mars. They’ve expressed curiosity, puzzlement and amazement. They’ve offered theories, then retracted them, as cameras returned better images and the mysteries grew.

The picture above was returned by the Mars Orbiter Camera in 1999. The picture shows a “dune field” located at 61.5°S, 18.9°W, as it appeared on July 1, 1999. For planetary scientists such spots seen on “defrosting” polar dunes were a new phenomenon, unseen by previous spacecraft missions to Mars. They came to be known as “dalmatian spots.”

According to NASA investigators, “The patterns created by dark spots on defrosting south polar dunes are often strange and beautiful … The spots are areas where dark sand has been exposed from beneath bright frost as the south polar winter cap begins to retreat.”

This explanation of the dark spots is not sufficient. Many instances could be given showing ice being progressively removed to expose dark surface material. But what is the mechanism removing ice so selectively at discreet spots, often reaching deep into the ice to produce distinct cavities (a subject of the Picture of the Day to follow in this series)?

The authors of the NASA caption write, “…No one yet knows why the dunes become defrosted by forming small spots that grow and grow over time. No one knows for sure if the bright rings around the dark spots are actually composed of re-precipitated frost. And no one knows for sure why some dunes show spots that appear to be "lined-up" (as they do in the picture above).”

Eight years after this caption was written, the mysteries have only deepened. But still we can find no mention by NASA of electrical possibilities. Could electric discharge be excavating the spots on the ice? Discharge frequently occurs in discrete columns, as in the discharge experiment photograph on the left. (Many variations on the basic pattern could be given). Here, the image was recorded through a transparent electrode, and the white spots are the discharge itself. (See “Static and dynamic two-dimensional patterns in self-extinguishing discharge avalanches,” by W. Breazeal, K. M. Flynn, and E. G. Gwinn, Physical Review E, August 1995.)

Is it common for discharge streamers to “line up” in a fashion that could account for the loose alignment of dark spots on the Martian ice pictured above? The authors of the laboratory investigation noted here report that when discharge spots stand in close proximity the regions between them tend to fill in to give the appearance of “beads on a string.” The result is a general appearance of striping, as seen on the left. (On the surface of Mars, innumerable striping effects are in fact among the most perplexing enigmas.)

In laboratory discharge many different striping patterns occur under different conditions. The sample given on the lower left is from a paper by Lifang Dang et al.,”Observation of spiral pattern and spiral defect chaos in dielectric barrier discharge in argon/air at atmospheric pressure” Physical Review E 72 (2005).

The lining up of discharge columns is commonly seen in the Earths auroras (north polar aurora below left, and Aurora Australis below right). Of course the electrical cause of auroral activity underscores the logical priority on the study of spotting concentrated in the polar regions on Mars. Of the known physical events whose effects on surface materials can be studied, is there anything other than electric discharge that can account for the details observed on the Martian surface? In the case of Earth’s aurora, the atmosphere serves to insulate the surface substantially from the discharge activity of the aurora. But this is certainly not the case with the planet Mars, whose rarified, but electrified atmosphere would be more accurately called a plasma. Moreover, as we've noted in discussing global dust storms on Mars, the planet’s elliptical orbit means that it travels much farther through the radial electric field of the Sun, adding greatly to the potential for electrical activity on the planet.

Until the cause of the dark spots on the ice is explained, it is not rational to separate this issue from equally enigmatic dark spots observed elsewhere on the planet’s surface--as on the “sand dunes” of Russell Crater observed in earlier Pictures of the Day. Surely, in a search for answers, one cannot justify ignoring similar unexplained patterns just because of a dubious theoretical assumption (“no electricity in space”).

In this TPOD series, we intend to show that by simply following a line of electrical investigation that NASA has ignored, one Martian mystery after another will find its logical explanation.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2007/arch07/071106dalmationspots.htm

hagbard_celine

17-11-2007, 01:50 PM

Mysterious Spots On Mars' South Pole

http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/5/11/16/f_070521dalmam_f55caa8.jpg

LIFE!!??:eek::confused::cool:

chattanova

17-11-2007, 01:54 PM

LIFE!!??:eek::confused::cool:

:eek: This can be pretty big!

chattanova

12-12-2007, 05:19 PM

Mars Rover Finds Signs Of Microbial Life

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/5/12/12/f_wmars111m_c49f651.jpg
Spirit unearthed a patch of silica-rich soil

Nasa says its Mars rover Spirit has discovered "the best evidence yet" of a past habitable environment on the planet's surface.

Spirit has been exploring a plateau called Home Plate, where it discovered silica-rich soil in May.

Researchers are now trying to determine what produced the patch of nearly pure silica - the main ingredient of window glass.

They believe the deposits came from an ancient hot-spring environment or an environment called a fumarole, in which acidic steam rises through cracks.

On Earth, both of these types of settings teem with microbial life, said rover chief scientist Steve Squyres.

"Whichever of those conditions produced it, this concentration of silica is probably the most significant discovery by Spirit for revealing a habitable niche that existed on Mars in the past," he said.

"The evidence is pointing most strongly toward fumarolic conditions, like you might see in Hawaii and in Iceland.

"Compared with deposits formed at hot springs, we know less about how well fumarolic deposits can preserve microbial fossils. That's something needing more study here on Earth."

Spirit and its twin rover Opportunity have remained on Mars for much longer than originally planned.

Their mission has been extended five times since they landed on opposite sides of the planet in January 2004.

But the rovers faced their biggest challenge yet this summer, when a series of dust devils blanketed their solar panels and limited their movement.

Winds managed to clean off Opportunity, but Spirit is still covered in gunk and working at 42 per cent capacity.

Scientists said Spirit was now facing a face against time to reach a resting spot for winter.

"Spirit is going into the winter with much more dust on its solar panels than in previous years," said Nasa's John Callas, project manager for the rovers.

"The last Martian winter, we didn't move Spirit for about seven months. This time, the rover is likely to be stationary longer and with significantly lower available energy each Martian day."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/11/wmars111.xml

elysiansix

12-12-2007, 06:23 PM

[QUOTE=zircon;43679] But he is a serious exponent of the life on mars theory and of credible architectural evidence showing it. The most amazing thing are the pictures of glass-like tubes hundreds of yards wide that seem to have been smashed, and could have been transport systems.. and what looks like a girl's face.
QUOTE]

Hasn't anyone heard of the 'Van Allen Belt' which is a Radiation Belt (Inner and Outer ones) that exist from 700 km above earth and extends to thousands more kms above earth and once a space ship gets into them is burned up by the radiation.
Next thing you'll all be saying is that there REALLY WAS a moon landing in 1969. It's all symbolism - the numbers 1969 are highly important. All the talk of Mars is just that - Mars has come to earth, gratis the Illuminati-Zionists.

Mars is the god of War and is the planet of Leo which is the Lion of Judea which is Christ. .............. et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Also Mars = red which is BIG important in Alchemy as it symbolises the final product at the end of the alchemical process and ALSO means the return of the Messiah - who happens to be the God of War. That's Mars. Here on earth.

chattanova

14-12-2007, 04:29 PM

Hale Crater Civilization Evidence ??

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2005/084/hale-civ-evidence.htm

hagbard_celine

14-12-2007, 10:01 PM

Hale Crater Civilization Evidence ??

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2005/084/hale-civ-evidence.htm

I'm not sure what to make of this. Those do look like farm fields or even rice paddies! Not that they are of course.

moonfly

14-12-2007, 10:38 PM

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P2425L7M1.HTML

SEE THE SKULL??

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/e...noid-skull.htm

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/r/1400/2R250651757EFFAW9DP1311L0M1.JPG

Here is another strange one

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P1312R0M1.HTML

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...ZP1312R0M1.JPG

Where did my rock go?

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P1312R0M1.HTML

for this one copy paste image to word and zoom in to 600% and look in to the sky.
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/1400/2N250651838EFFAW9DP1926R0M1.JPG

more bones on mars
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/1010/2N216029278EFFAS07P0665L0M1.JPG

foot print on Mars
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/1391/2P249846830EFFAWSMP2555L2M1.JPG

moonfly

14-12-2007, 10:53 PM

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P1312R0M1.HTML

]http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...ZP1312R0M1.JPG

Where did my rock go?

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P1312R0M1.HTML

LINKS ARE BROKEN SORRY

hagbard_celine

14-12-2007, 11:22 PM

Most of those links aredead, moonfly.

I've seen pictures of the skull though. I'm not sure whether it's made like that or just natural. The same goes for the "B-block".

chattanova

24-01-2008, 05:53 PM

colour analysis
Does this picture show there's life on Mars ? - YouTube

and http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article713438.ece

epsom

24-01-2008, 10:49 PM

Have messed about with photoshop and come up with this. I would welcome an anthropologist to have a look and determine whether it could be a living being -- or a pile of rocks.

hagbard_celine

25-01-2008, 08:49 AM

This is funny:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5269/picture007qh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

In case it's not clear enough, the alien is Peter Hain and caption reads: "Er... Gordon, remember you told me to keep out of the way for a while and not attract attention...?"

tootrue

25-01-2008, 10:30 AM

Have you guys seen this - http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=6073098&ch=4226721&src=news

hagbard_celine

25-01-2008, 10:35 AM

Have you guys seen this - http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=6073098&ch=4226721&src=news

If it's a rock then wouldn't the arm-like spur have broken off or eroded away long ago?

thefallguy

27-01-2008, 09:13 PM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=stltd_5Ld7Y

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wVg36MiEbKM

bigus_dickus

28-01-2008, 03:39 PM

If it's a rock then wouldn't the arm-like spur have broken off or eroded away long ago?

you can see many arm-like spurs just like this one in the bigger picture from which this one was taken.

sunyatta60

28-01-2008, 10:06 PM

nsa_

28-01-2008, 11:34 PM

If it's a rock then wouldn't the arm-like spur have broken off or eroded away long ago?

Not necessarily. Most of the erosion on Mars is caused by the wind picking up dust, a lot like the technique used to smoothe things called Sand Blasting.

Also worth noting is that the rock is only a few inches tall so the petruding parts probaly don't have enough weight to cause any stress and make it brake off. Additionally, you can't actually see very well how it is connected, and I would take a very good guess that there is more rock holding it together then this picture lets on.

hagbard_celine

29-01-2008, 11:06 AM

Not necessarily. Most of the erosion on Mars is caused by the wind picking up dust, a lot like the technique used to smoothe things called Sand Blasting.

Also worth noting is that the rock is only a few inches tall so the petruding parts probaly don't have enough weight to cause any stress and make it brake off. Additionally, you can't actually see very well how it is connected, and I would take a very good guess that there is more rock holding it together then this picture lets on.

you can see many arm-like spurs just like this one in the bigger picture from which this one was taken.

Are there any other examples of such rocks we can use as controls? Or maybe examples of rocks on Earth like that.

hagbard_celine

29-01-2008, 11:08 AM

I just finished reading Dark Mission by Hoagland and Bara and I have to say the case they make for a cover up is very impressive and it makes sense to me because governments by their very nature are secretive. No way would they show people what they have found which is why Nasa recruits its pilots from the military.

I agree; in fact I say above that this one probably slipped past the censor (unless it is just a rock, in which case why not prove it with the suggestion I made of taking another photo of the same place and seeing if it has moved?)

Apparently this photo is not recent; it was taken four years ago!

bigus_dickus

29-01-2008, 02:15 PM

Are there any other examples of such rocks we can use as controls? Or maybe examples of rocks on Earth like that.

http://www.bat-bel.com/photo_gal/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Belogradchik-Rocks4.jpg
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/2461/17740/f/79892-Wierd-Rocks-0.jpg
http://healingmagichands.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/monument-rocks-3.jpg
http://www.reggaemovement.com/Reviews/the_rocks.jpg

here are some examples. their shapes depend on the weather conditions.

bigus_dickus

29-01-2008, 02:18 PM

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/photos/Full36854.jpg

hagbard_celine

01-02-2008, 11:01 PM

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/photos/Full36854.jpg

Come to think of it, Earth is a bad example. The geology (or "areology") of Mars is totally different. Therer is none of the common intrusive granite that you find on Earth and only volcanic rocks. Mars is also geologically inert and has a thin atmosphere (apparently;)) so rates of erosion are slower, but it has had far longer to work on the landscape. The features are older than Earth's by a factor of 1000. Landcapes on Earh are milllions of years old, on Mars they're billions of years old. When dinoisaurs walked the Earth and its continents were in totally different places, Mars was pretty much the same as it is today.

nsa_

03-02-2008, 11:56 PM

Sorry about the late response.

Come to think of it, Earth is a bad example.

No it's not. We weren't comparing specific types of rock, only the strength to which rock can support extruding (which probaly wasn't really extruding it just appeared to because of the angle) structures such as this 'arm' you pointed out.

Just to vear off a bit and link to another forum you posted at and received no answer to but was an interesting question:

There's a simple way to find out, and it surprises me that nobody in the media has suggested it: Look at another photo of the same area taken at a different time and see if it's moved, or if it's gone. If it hasn't moved then it is in all likelyhood, just a rock!

There are other photos of it!

http://www.planetary.org/image/sasquatch_montage.png

They call it a 'dirty image' and it's taken before the proper photo. And to clear up that this isn't a moving figure, the way Spirit takes photos is by taking three snaps of the same scene in three different colours and then combining them together. If it were moving it'd be a big blur.

Another thing is that Spirit would be miles from that location now and the poor little 'bot was only meant to last for several weeks to a few months and it's been four years and he's still going!

It sucks that people are so interested in this rock for all the wrong reasons, when the original panorama image is breath-takingly amazing!

http://www.planetary.org/image/A1366_9_West_Valley_half.jpg

cheeney1

04-02-2008, 06:54 AM

There's Got To be Intelligent Life Up There Because There is Bugger All Down Here On Earth Right Now.............

mariag

04-02-2008, 11:11 AM

There's Got To be Intelligent Life Up There Because There is Bugger All Down Here On Earth Right Now.............

There is rediculous to think that we are the only ones in space . but then again as you stated there are a lot of Buggars here :)
I do not see why ther should NOT be life in space .

revolutionary_jam

04-02-2008, 12:27 PM

It's a God awful small affair
To the girl with the mousey hair,
But her mummy is yelling, "No!"
And her daddy has told her to go,
But her friend is no where to be seen.
Now she walks through her sunken dream
To the seats with the clearest view
And she's hooked to the silver screen,
But the film is sadd'ning bore
For she's lived it ten times or more.
She could spit in the eyes of fools
As they ask her to focus on

Sailors
Fighting in the dance hall.
Oh man!
Look at those cavemen go.
It's the freakiest show.
Take a look at the lawman
Beating up the wrong guy.
Oh man!
Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show.
Is there life on Mars?

It's on America's tortured brow
That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow.
Now the workers have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's on sale again.
See the mice in their million hordes
From Ibeza to the Norfolk Broads.
Rule Britannia is out of bounds
To my mother, my dog, and clowns,
But the film is a sadd'ning bore
'Cause I wrote it ten times or more.
It's about to be writ again
As I ask you to focus on

Sailors
Fighting in the dance hall.
Oh man!
Look at those cavemen go.
It's the freakiest show.
Take a look at the lawman
Beating up the wrong guy.
Oh man!
Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show.
Is there life on Mars?

hagbard_celine

05-02-2008, 05:26 PM

Sorry about the late response.

No it's not. We weren't comparing specific types of rock, only the strength to which rock can support extruding (which probaly wasn't really extruding it just appeared to because of the angle) structures such as this 'arm' you pointed out.

But different rocks have different strengths, they also form into different shapes depending on the forces acting on them. If it's a rock then it might be a "ventifact", carved by the wind over an enormous amount of time; far longer than any rock on Earth. But we'd need to know what sort of rock it is and those forces first.

hagbard_celine

05-02-2008, 05:32 PM

There are other photos of it!

http://www.planetary.org/image/sasquatch_montage.png

They call it a 'dirty image' and it's taken before the proper photo. And to clear up that this isn't a moving figure, the way Spirit takes photos is by taking three snaps of the same scene in three different colours and then combining them together. If it were moving it'd be a big blur.

Another thing is that Spirit would be miles from that location now and the poor little 'bot was only meant to last for several weeks to a few months and it's been four years and he's still going!

It sucks that people are so interested in this rock for all the wrong reasons, when the original panorama image is breath-takingly amazing!

http://www.planetary.org/image/A1366_9_West_Valley_half.jpg

Actually I found a pic of the whole panorama, including the hill in the background, and admired it greatly.:cool:

How much time was there between Spirit's three snaps? There's no piojt claiming it was not moving if these three frames were all snapped in a microsecond burst. If the series was taken over a time significantly long to prove that this is not a large animal of any kind then you've proved your point: It really is a rock... if the other pictures are genuine.;)

BTW I assume you saw my "coming out" post on the Moon landing thread to know that I'm "Porterboy"! My cover is blown! I hear the sound of the other JREF forum members closing in on me, preparing an array of scathing witicisms!

rynath

05-02-2008, 09:36 PM

Smile, you're on Mars.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/02/04/scimars104.xml

bigus_dickus

06-02-2008, 03:14 PM

Come to think of it, Earth is a bad example. The geology (or "areology") of Mars is totally different.

we can always keep the analogies. earth's rock formations don't look like mars' rock formations, but they do look weird as well and have sometimes 'life like' shapes. this analogy doesn't allow us of course to be conclusive, but it allows us to realize that the highest probability is that we are viewing a similar case.

chattanova

08-04-2008, 10:37 PM

Weird Creatures On Mars?

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/4/8/f_sandtotalvim_e5c5d4d.jpg

http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/4/8/f_sand1m_cc8f8df.jpg

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/4/4/8/f_sand1topm_252fb82.jpg

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/4/8/f_sand1bottomm_ea8f1d2.jpg

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread347595/pg1

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/index.htm

rynath

08-04-2008, 11:02 PM

Weird Creatures On Mars?

How cool! They kinda look like plant life of some kind. Those are some nice close up pics.

hagbard_celine

09-04-2008, 06:53 PM

How cool! They kinda look like plant life of some kind. Those are some nice close up pics.

Yeah, the first thing that crossed my mind was trees.

chattanova

18-05-2008, 02:55 PM

Egyptian Statue on Mars?

From ATS; While looking at pictures of mars. There was something on the picture that grabbed my attention. Here’s the link to the original.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/207023main_vincent-20071220.jpg

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/5/18/f_sirats1m_0d8d1d7.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/5/18/f_sirats2m_109d17b.jpg

original thread: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread356078/pg1

hagbard_celine

19-05-2008, 11:17 AM

Egyptian Statue on Mars?

Good find!:) How did it get there? Did they take it from us or did we take it to them?:confused:

mystiq_99

20-05-2008, 04:03 AM

Trees on mars would be larger than here. Gravity determines size. The more gravity the more compact the size. Also marsanomalyresearch.com is a wonderful sight, and does a very job of looking at the so called transportation tubes, where the braces look a little more like decayed biology. I keep thinking giant worms. Also some evidence in photos that some bumps on surface may be worms again, possibly alive. I don't believe the beautiful face on mars had 3 toes so that probably wasnt the humanoid lifeform. And the one photo suggests a current town in mars crater, and then there is underground. I don't think nasa has any rights to any of this stuff if some survivors are still around. Unless of course thats our base up there that they failed to inform us about.:rolleyes:

romas

20-05-2008, 01:38 PM

Awesome pictures! Thanks! :)

bill23

20-05-2008, 09:40 PM

this is my first post on this forum, sorry for being negative but most of these images are just random rock formations imo. the images of objects that look like plants are very interesting but im bored of looking a pictures of rocks which look i bit like something from earth. if u look at clouds in the sky u can see all sorts of objects. but ive still enjoyed this thread so nice one.

diamond dogs

20-05-2008, 10:22 PM

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/5/18/f_sirats1m_0d8d1d7.jpg

Take a look at the ledge 45' top left of box there appears to be a 'reptilian creature' on it...like a prehistoric croc or somat..:confused: :eek:

pandamania

21-05-2008, 12:36 AM

Good find chattanova:) Did the comic writers know something at the time?...........:cool:

That's incredible. Reminds me of what Carl Jung said about art is humankind's main method for predicting the future before it happens. It's just that we don't notice it most of the time. In one of his essays he gave some example of songs, books, poems, paintings which predicted the future.

looney_mike

21-05-2008, 01:03 PM

I saw a video of the glass-like substance tunnel on mars' surface a couple of weeks ago. Exciting stuff. Especially with that vessel stuck somewhere in it.

bill23

22-05-2008, 07:54 PM

look at the bottom of the picture to the lefthand side, is that r2d2?

chattanova

03-06-2008, 02:34 PM

Footprint found on Mars?

STUNNING photographs have emerged of NASA's new Mars spacecraft touching the Red Planet for the first time - and internet boffins are buzzing over what appears to be a footprint in the alien landscape.

But scientists overseeing the project said today that the Phoenix Mars lander's robotic arm reached out the day before and left an impression that resembled a footprint.
# Phoenix pictures: First shots from the surface of Mars

They say it is the first step in a series of actions that will provide soil and ice for the lander's experiments.

The robotic arm camera also took images of what is believed to be exposed ice under the lander.

The University of Arizona in Tucson is leading the mission, with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory managing it.

Picture here http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23796269-5001021,00.html

chattanova

04-06-2008, 08:03 PM

The Unknown "White Object" on Mars

video http://www.ufocasebook.com/2008b/marswhiteobjectvideo.html

chattanova

08-06-2008, 03:04 PM

The Unknown "White Object" on Mars

video http://www.ufocasebook.com/2008b/marswhiteobjectvideo.html

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/8/f_M35m_a8a7e71.jpg

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361361/pg1

hagbard_celine

09-06-2008, 11:49 PM

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/8/f_M35m_a8a7e71.jpg

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361361/pg1

Jesus H Corbett; are they going to tell us that's just an odd shaped rock!?

A Martian weather balloon!:D:D

What could it be?... Well the Martians probably ask the same question about Phoenix!

chattanova

20-06-2008, 02:10 PM

Mars Phoenix Tweets: "We Have ICE!"

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/6/20/f_dodo0200242m_b0ca587.gif

There is water ice on Mars within reach of the Mars Phoenix Lander, NASA scientists announced Thursday.

Photographic evidence settles the debate over the nature of the white material seen in photographs sent back by the craft. As seen in lower left of this image, chunks of the ice sublimed (changed directly from solid to gas) over the course of four days, after the lander's digging exposed them.

"It must be ice," said the Phoenix Lander's lead investigator, Peter Smith. "These little clumps completely disappearing over the course of a few days, that is perfect evidence that it's ice."

The confirmation that water ice exists in the area directly surrounding the lander is big and good news for the Martian mission. NASA's stated goal for the Mars Phoenix was to find exactly this -- water ice -- and then analyze it. With the latest news, the first step is accomplished. All that's left now is to get the water into the Phoenix's instruments, a task which has occasionally proven more difficult than anticipated.

Still, this is the best opportunity that humanity has ever had to analyze extraterrestrial water in any form. That had the Phoenix Lander's persona fired up.

"Are you ready to celebrate? Well, get ready: We have ICE!!!!! Yes, ICE, *WATER ICE* on Mars! w00t!!! Best day ever!!" the Mars Phoenix Lander tweeted at about 5:15 pm.

Their suspicions about water ice beneath the surface of Mars confirmed, scientists and the world will have renewed interest in the outcome of the soil analyses currently being conducted by the lander.

The samples are being examined for traces of organic molecules, among other substances, but the lander does not have instruments that could directly detect life.

See the full announcement from NASA.

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/06/mars-phoenix-tw.html

chattanova

21-06-2008, 02:36 PM

Scientists ponder whether ice on Mars ever melted

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/21/f_ALeqM5jPHbym_0186500.jpg

The apparent discovery of ice near Mars' north pole has scientists asking: Did the frozen water melt at some point in the planet's long history to create an environment friendly for life?

The Phoenix spacecraft exposed bright white crumbs at the bottom of a trench while digging near Mars' north pole earlier this week. The bits disappeared in new photos sent back on Thursday, convincing scientists that the magic act was evidence of ice that vaporized after being exposed to the sun.

"The fact that there's ice there doesn't tell you anything about whether it's habitable," chief scientist Peter Smith of the University of Arizona said Friday during a teleconference from Tucson.

To judge whether the Martian polar environment could be hospitable, scientists are using the spacecraft's instruments to study minerals in the soil and ice for hints of carbonates and sulfates, which are formed by the action of liquid water.

Preliminary results from an experiment that baked a soil sample in one of Phoenix's test ovens failed to yield evidence of water. A data glitch on the lander this week prevented scientists from getting the results right away from the last testing phase.

Water is a prerequisite for life, but it's just one piece of the equation. Scientists generally agree that organic carbon and an energy source like the sun are also considered necessary ingredients.

Mars today is arid and dusty, constantly bombarded by radiation and with no apparent trace of water on its surface. But carvings of channels and gullies on the Martian surface suggest a wetter past. Some scientists speculate that water may have evaporated into the atmosphere and the rest trapped beneath the surface in the form of ice.

"The holy grail is to find water near the surface of Mars," said astrobiologist Mitch Sogin of the Marine Biological Lab in Woods Hole, Mass., who is not part of the mission.

Phoenix's latest discovery is not a total surprise. In 2002, the orbiting Mars Odyssey spacecraft spied evidence of a reservoir of frozen water near the planet's poles. Phoenix, which landed May 25, is the first robotic craft to reach out and touch it.

Scientists not involved in the mission said the Phoenix team makes a compelling case for the presence of ice.

"It's not unexpected, but finding it is different than predicting it," said Bruce Jakosky, an astrobiologist at the University of Colorado at Boulder. "Everybody expected the ice to be there. That's why Phoenix went there in the first place."

The bright chunks seen in the Martian soil vanished in images taken Thursday of a trench where they were seen four days earlier. Scientists had debated whether the chunks were salt or ice, but settled on frozen water since salt would not disappear.

"We have found the proof that we've been seeking," Smith said.

Smith said the ice, which appeared to be pure, was found 2 inches deep in the trench.

Digging in another trench, Phoenix hit a hard surface believed to be an icy layer, which will also be tested.

The big question is whether the ice ever melted and remained stable long enough as a liquid.

"If so, one of the requirements is satisfied for life as we know it," said Kenneth Nealson, a geobiologist at the University of Southern California, who had no role in the mission.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j1hvRUNc9W-3lupLU6TLQtR0gdRAD91E4K4O0

abaddon

27-06-2008, 04:59 PM

Saw on Australian news report, "Mars could support life- Nutrients in Mars' soil a.o.k for life, soil samples suggest would be really good for growing asparagus."

:eek:

wow Chat, just noticed the white thingy in that posted pic... errrr :confused:

malkor

27-06-2008, 09:04 PM

Here is another one I found while looking at the same panorama with the pointing statue. This one's on the right side past the strange channels in the ground.

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/6/27/f_marsstatm_ee0a68a.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/6/27/f_marsstatm_ee0a68a.jpg&srv=img33)

abaddon

28-06-2008, 03:45 AM

malkor

28-06-2008, 04:03 AM

Sorry Chief, not exactly sure what you're trying to point out :) Other than the oddly fire-extinguisher-like shadow in the middle :p

Jagged line running from near bot+right runs across to the left, from multiple images being pieced together (assumably). I just woke up, can't make much from the shadows/pic :p

Ever since seeing the 'box' structure on the moon (which was an awesome optical illusion via shadows), I've not quite looked at this type of image without harsh criticism :D

Keep looking at that odd "fire-extinguisher."
It looks like a carved rectangular slab with a head (side view) and what appears to be a beard and head-dress. You can also make up eye socket and an ear.

There seems to be more carved details on the "up" side of the slab that is not easily distinguishable from this angle.

The head could be a natural formation but it's in the same vicinity as the pointing statue anomaly and it's right next to what appears to be a carved stone slab.

deany

09-07-2008, 08:28 AM

I see where you are coming from but is it is a head it seems to have been seperated from the slab or the body part.

Interesting tho, didn't spot anything at first view so thanks for pointing it out.

chattanova

19-07-2008, 08:18 PM

Google Mars

http://www.google.com/mars/

hagbard_celine

19-07-2008, 09:25 PM

Google Mars

http://www.google.com/mars/

I bet Cydonia is the most-viewed spot!:cool:

Does Google Mars employ censorship, in the same way Google Earth does?

chattanova

25-07-2008, 08:08 PM

Alien Being Walking on Mars?

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9615/walkerlz6.jpg

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread375105/pg1

malkor

26-07-2008, 03:01 AM

Alien Being Walking on Mars?

Not likely, if you look at the larger picture, the tracks start out of nowhere. Unless this is a person who fell from the sky, and started walking down an incline, it's a boulder.

hagbard_celine

19-08-2008, 04:07 PM

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/8/f_M35m_a8a7e71.jpg

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361361/pg1

Apparently this is part of the spacecraft's heatshield.:o

chattanova

19-08-2008, 04:28 PM

Apparently this is part of the spacecraft's heatshield.:o

:) I had a feeling it belonged to us or 'them' it'll be..

humanswin

19-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Google Mars

http://www.google.com/mars/

Hey chatty,thanks for that link.It is great to see mars on a map.No one thought water existed (lowell and some) a few years ago right? Now they know there is proof.Bush wants to go there.Then there are all these rover anamolies.I am no expert but it would seem like the lid will come of mars knowledge soon.

chattanova

19-08-2008, 06:04 PM

Hey chatty,thanks for that link.It is great to see mars on a map.No one thought water existed (lowell and some) a few years ago right? Now they know there is proof.Bush wants to go there.Then there are all these rover anamolies.I am no expert but it would seem like the lid will come of mars knowledge soon.

Hey there:) Yes more and more anomalies/artifacts is leaking, imo it's just a question on time before the lid opens. (though that could be a step in the 'staged invasion' also, which I personally don't believe)
The moon is also very interesting , I wonder WTH is going on up there:confused:

Google Moon

A photographic map of the equatorial region with pan and zoom capability, showing
locations of the Apollo landings

http://www.google.com/moon/

The Moon (thread) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7589

hagbard_celine

23-08-2008, 09:57 AM

I wonder how accurate these Google Mars and Moon sites are.:confused: As I've explained on other threads, there is definitely censorship on Google Earth and that the censorships of maps is nothing new. Even the early explorers like Columbus and Magellan deliberately faked maps to keep some of their discoveries secret.

(BTW I saw Doug Ellison live the other night (http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php) and he thinks all Martian "conspiracy theories" are crap.:rolleyes:

hagbard_celine

23-08-2008, 11:25 AM

I write about Doug Ellison's lecture here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=469667#post469667

chattanova

27-08-2008, 03:41 PM

Ruins On Mars ?

http://img27.picoodle.com/data/img27/3/8/27/f_10h7nyvm_38c06b7.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/data/img28/3/8/27/f_2ep3mvlm_7d10f54.jpg

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2006/109/spirit-rock-growth.htm

hagbard_celine

31-08-2008, 07:02 PM

Ruins On Mars ?

Or a bush?:eek:;):confused:

I've seen orbital photoes of things that look like vegetatiopn, but this is the first ground level one!

harris999

01-09-2008, 12:02 AM

Ruins On Mars ?

wow thats amazing. I mean how could that possibly occur naturally?

chattanova

28-11-2008, 04:30 PM

NASA Mars Photo Leaked - Wood Found On Mars!

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/3/11/28/f_moontworg4m_cfc8587.jpg

'Someone at NASA released a photo that they shouldn’t have, a picture of a piece of timber the size of a railroad tie, a photo that could get someone killed. There is no mistaking that the object in the print below is a piece of wood. NASA claims that Mars is a desert planet with no life at all. NASA lies, repeatedly.'

http://thecrit.com/2008/08/05/nasa-mars-photo-leaked-wood-found-on-mars/

hagbard_celine

29-11-2008, 11:39 AM

NASA Mars Photo Leaked - Wood Found On Mars!

Look at that trail! Has it been dragged there?:confused:

shabun

29-11-2008, 12:43 PM

Sorry chaps,
I know you'd like to see this as a big NASA conspiracy that could "get someone killed", but if you check your facts you will see that NASA openly published this picture ages ago and there has been no attempt to hide it or kill anyone. I know that will dissapoint you.

However, the picture itself is very interesting and it is a possible sign of something.

A assume you are not accusing it of being faked? Only kidding, but its interesting that every single Apollo picture and video is accused of being faked but whenever a picture comes out that supports your belief you accept it without even considering its veracity.

2013

29-11-2008, 02:07 PM

This picture of the wood is interesting only if it was proven to be taken on mars .How do we prove that though?Given the nature of conspiracy theory , then someone could be faking images to establish an alien link with mars , or maybe just bored techies at NASA .Not saying i believe that either but we have to look at all the evidence objectively:D

hagbard_celine

30-11-2008, 11:46 AM

its interesting that every single Apollo picture and video is accused of being faked but whenever a picture comes out that supports your belief you accept it without even considering its veracity.

Actually I was about to post here that the studio had previously been used to film Robin of Sherwood and the set hadn't been cleared properly!:D

Seriously, some of those pictures might not be of the real Mars. I've heard Doug Ellison speak and I addressed the points he made about that above.

chattanova

17-01-2009, 04:56 PM

Mars Anomalies, Water, Plants, Life!? HD - YouTube

kale

19-01-2009, 09:10 PM

watched a vid on National Geo last night about JPL, Nasa and Mars,

one thing is obvious, they don't tell us much. I'm pretty convinced an ancient civilization was there, still could be, I just wish Nasa would tell us the truth.

hank_scorpio

19-01-2009, 09:41 PM

hagbard_celine

20-01-2009, 10:52 AM

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/01/in-farewell-speech-nasa-chief.html

"I would be very surprised if we didn't find life elsewhere, and frankly I expect to live to see it," Griffin said. "I would be surprised to find that life never originated on Mars, and I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find dormant or quiescent life underground"

Thats coming from a NASA cheif. Mars has always been a mystery. Plenty of meteroites found on earth are found on mars some of them sparking debates on if life existed on mars. Lack of information. I think its safe to say life did exist on mars at one point even if it was bacteria.

The presence of methane shows that it must be curently alive though. However it's interesting that they're looking for microbes when far more interesting things, Cydonia, UFO's etc, pass by unnoticed. We've got our eyes to glued to the microscope thast we can't see the 5 foot Grey standing over our shoulder.:eek:

chattanova

10-02-2009, 04:24 PM

Mars Artifact

http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/2/10/f_1m_1c72674.jpg

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/2/10/f_21m_99c9932.jpg

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/2/10/f_2m_ee610a3.jpg

To be found at 'Panaromic camera' and locate Sol 527 http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit.html

hagbard_celine

10-02-2009, 04:37 PM

Mars Artifact

Looks like a bone.:eek::confused:

chattanova

10-02-2009, 04:43 PM

Looks like a bone.:eek::confused:

Yes, or a wrench or something :confused:

chattanova

10-02-2009, 04:49 PM

Mystery Shadow crossing over Sojourner Rover ? (-97)

Almost a week after photographic transmissions from Pathfinder showed a shadow crossing over Sojourner, unauthorized images finally became available for publication on the World Wide Web.

This shadow crossing over Sojourner can not be explained as a natural or meteorological Martian phenomenon. It has had NASA and NSA officials scrambling to discover who else might be on the Martian surface. One hypothesis is a secret Soviet involvement, another is extra-
terrestrial.

http://img18.picoodle.com/img/img18/3/2/10/f_wwwwwm_83894bd.jpg

http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/2/10/f_eeeeem_54787ac.jpg

On July 12, in an incident that NASA and Area 51 officials have named "The Independence Day Scenario" (after a scene in the popular movie in which a shadow crosses over the remains of the Apollo mission on the moon), a similar round shadow crossed over Sojourner.

Timed photographic images of the shadow crossing Sojourner lead to a total restriction on new images being released from Mars. NASA officials tried to distract the public with 3D and Virtual reality shows.
Claiming that Sojourner was trapped on the rock Yogi, NASA officials shutdown the release of photographs from Mars for the second time in the mission and scrambled for an explanation.
The most disturbing element of the transmissions is that the object casting the shadow literally seems to change direction as it crosses over Sojourner. NASA officials doubt that any natural or meteorological phenomenon could explain the Martian shadow.
"It was just too weird," said my unnamed source at NASA. "The way the shadow crossed over Sojourner indicated that Sojourner itself was under observation, almost as though another probe were photographing our mission."
Two explanations forwarded were that the Soviets had already established a secret Martian base for its own probe, and that an extraterrestrial civilization had established a base for studying earth and was now interested in Pathfinder.
The Soviet hypothesis proved weak from the beginning, and fell under increasing fire as their space station MIR developed more and more problems through the week. By July 14, new photographs indicated the involvement of non-human observers.

http://www.totalthinker.com/Mars/id4/id4.html

venividivici2311

10-02-2009, 07:14 PM

:eek: HOLY SHITE CHATTANOVA!!!

morphal

11-02-2009, 12:12 AM

Life on Mars is a favorite topic of mine, I have seen a lot of images and even videos but mostly pictures of different life forms. There are little people, very small... maybe only a foot or two. There are actually a lot of humanoid types as well as hybrids. Well to get you started, visit http://exopolitics.com - I can't link directly to the 50 page report with lots of pictures of intelligent life to study but you'll find it there under this heading:

Andrew D. Basiago, The Discovery of Life on Mars, 12/12/08 (PDF)
Download MARS - Andrew D. Basiago - The Discovery of Life on Mars - 12-12-08

I have a lot of youtube links but my research is not too organized, I will try to get some here for you.

It's really hard to see, it takes a lot of looking, because obviously these are beings who we've never seen before. But when you do see it, it's amazing. The report I refer to on expolitics is a very good summary of the situation, but the writer claims to be the discoverer of life on Mars as of Dec/08, while other, less vocal seekers and researchers have been disseminating this info for a little while before that.

harris999

11-02-2009, 05:51 AM

Mystery Shadow crossing over Sojourner Rover ? (-97)

:eek: :confused:

venividivici2311

11-02-2009, 05:31 PM

signs

11-02-2009, 06:57 PM

I was thinking (again :P)

There is allot of talk on the face on mars and the city of sidonia,if those nasa hippies want to proof that those citys are just some mountains of sand,why dont they just make a picture of it with the rover,it makes 1000s of pics,but a pic of the face,NOOOOOO,why is that :confused:

There are some things that even NASA cannot cover up once the real evidence has been leaked or not and the face on Mars is one of them.:cool:

steve1964

11-02-2009, 07:04 PM

Andrew D. Basiago, The Discovery of Life on Mars, 12/12/08 (PDF)
Download MARS - Andrew D. Basiago - The Discovery of Life on Mars - 12-12-08

Come on everything in that article apart from the statue is nothing but a blur is this guy for real.

He mentions something about an ancient Relief Rock Carving that looks nothing like he describes.:)

I found something that looks more like relief carvings at this page on N.A.S.A web site.
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/index.html

The page was last updated in SEPT 2008

Water-lain Sedimentary Rock on Mars - 04/16/07

Click the picture on the page : yes the blue fan structure

Let the next page load ignore pic A - B scroll to pic C

Download the full 18MB version

Use what ever software you use for viewing or editing pics
Ignore the box nasa has highlighted

And zoom right in to the top left at the base of the cliffs you should start to make out shapes of reptiles many sea creatures and on the left what i can only describe as an Egyptian like figure kneeling before and angry god like mask, he/she has arms stretched out holding what looks like a child, as if he/she,is making an sacrificial offering to a god.

Behind this kneeling person is another very faded woman holding what i see as a large jug of water and above there seems to be some kind of huge back pack with fish in it, on the head dress of the one kneeling down it looks like a serpent head piece.

But then I may be just as nutty as anyone but at least my discovery is sharp.

BTW it could just be a floodplain.

Here`s what you should see I have started to colour parts of it in these pics are very highly reduced thats why I tell you to get the full 18MB version.

http://www.relisys.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pics/BW-vsmall.jpg

http://www.relisys.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pics/Colourise-vsmall.jpg

Oh yes I forgot NEVER FORGET the Human mind always looks for shapes it recognises in a mass of chaos

morphal

12-02-2009, 07:40 AM

Wow, yes that does look very intentional. There seems to be a ton of artwork on Mars... not just people seeing things in shapes...

The Andrew Basiago file is admittedly very difficult to see what he describes... it's like one of those pics where you have to refocus your eyes, you know. You don't see it, but you look and look and look... and suddenly, you see it. It's pretty overwhelming... but yes, he's for real, and is backed by the respected exopolitics dude Alfred Webre, very closely aligned with Basiago and his project.

I couldn't see everything he pointed out in the pictures. But what I saw, was for real! Very different images.

morphal

12-02-2009, 07:43 AM

Mystery Shadow crossing over Sojourner Rover ? (-97)

Wow... haven't seen that one but it is a big anomaly!

I have seen some purported videos from Mars which showed low-flying 'UFO's. I would guess that whatever lives on Mars has spacecraft type technology, and this pic... well, it's pretty obvious confirmation of that.

boots

12-02-2009, 09:23 AM

Sorry to jump in to this thread guy's but i thought you might be interested to view this vid that I have posted in this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53399

The vid relates to how NASA is a secret organization and how they with hold info on space fights and anomalies like Mars.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mbara.htm

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hagbard_celine

12-02-2009, 01:18 PM

Is Sojourner OK?:confused:

If it is it might well have caught what cuased the shadow on camera... not that we mere motrals will get to see it though:rolleyes:.

malkor

12-02-2009, 06:49 PM

Has a lunar eclipse been ruled out for the cause of the shadow? The moons of mars are small enough not to block out the entire sun, but enough to cause such a shadow on the ground.

signs

12-02-2009, 07:02 PM

Has a lunar eclipse been ruled out for the cause of the shadow? The moons of mars are small enough not to block out the entire sun, but enough to cause such a shadow on the ground.

Interesting point but on what time scale could it be judged on how long it took the shadow to pass over the lander and is there a reference to when and if the Mars moons were due an eclipse on that precise time of the shadow over the lander? Good point though.:)

chattanova

17-03-2009, 03:07 PM

Blobs in Photos of Mars Lander Stir a Debate: Are They Water?

http://img15.picoodle.com/img/img15/3/3/17/kennet/f_17mars190m_0d82a90.jpg

Several photographs taken by NASA’s Phoenix Mars spacecraft show what look like water droplets clinging to one of its landing struts.

Some of the scientists working on the mission are asserting that that is exactly what they were. They contend that there are pockets of liquid water just under the Martian surface even though the temperatures in the northern plains never warmed above minus 15 degrees Fahrenheit during the six months of Phoenix’s operations last year.

The scientists believe that salts may have lowered the freezing temperature of the Martian water droplets to perhaps minus 90 degrees, or more than 120 degrees colder than the usual freezing temperature of 32 degrees for pure water.

Nilton O. Renno, a professor of atmospheric, oceanic and space sciences at the University of Michigan who proposed the hypothesis, was careful to say, “This is not a proof.”

But he added: “I think the evidence is overwhelming. It’s not circumstantial evidence.”

Dr. Renno will present his data and arguments this month in a talk at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in The Woodlands, Texas, and he is the lead author among 22 authors of a scientific paper submitted to The Journal of Geophysical Research.

Others are completely unconvinced. “There are simpler explanations,” said Michael H. Hecht, a scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and a co-investigator of the Phoenix’s wet chemistry instrument. Dr. Hecht, who described himself as the “designated curmudgeon,” said he believed that the process proposed by Dr. Renno to describe the formation and movement of water droplets was “flat-out wrong for these materials.”

Peter H. Smith, the mission’s principal investigator, is left to mediate the disagreement. He wonders whether the material, splashed up and possibly transformed by the heat and spray of chemicals from the thrusters when Phoenix landed, tells much or anything at all about the conditions on Mars.

Because of the lack of consensus, the Phoenix science team never brought up the liquid droplet hypothesis during any of the NASA news conferences.

The core facts are not in dispute. There were blobs on the strut. The blobs changed and moved over time before disappearing later in the mission.

The scientists also agree that the fundamental physics of Dr. Renno’s hypothesis is sound. And it dovetails with the major undisputed finding of the Phoenix mission: the unexpected discovery of chemicals known as perchlorates in the soil. Perchlorates are salts, and if they were dissolved in high enough concentrations in water, the resulting brine would be a liquid at Martian surface temperatures.

Dr. Renno believes that Phoenix’s thrusters splashed a pocket of brine from just below the surface to the landing strut. He said the salts would have absorbed water vapor from the air, explaining how they appeared to grow in size during the first 44 Martian days before slowly evaporating as the temperatures dropped.

But Dr. Hecht believes that the droplet shape was in part a trick of low-resolution images and lighting. His simpler explanation is that these were just small clumps of frost.

The central scientific disagreement is whether the landing strut was warmer or colder than the ground. Exposed ice seen below the lander was clearly disappearing over time, vanishing into water vapor. Dr. Renno maintains that because of the heating systems on the spacecraft, the landing struts were warmer than the ground, and it is thermodynamically impossible for simple water frost to move from the cold ground to the warmer leg. But perchlorate salt could act as a sponge to absorb water vapor.

Dr. Hecht said that the strut was in the shadow of the lander and that the ground was in sunshine, so the leg was colder.

The Phoenix Mars lander, as expected, froze to death in November with the oncoming winter. But Dr. Renno and collaborators in Spain have been conducting experiments to see if they can replicate the behavior on Earth.

“The initial results,” Dr. Renno said, “are consistent with what we see as liquid water.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/17/science/17mars.html?_r=1

hagbard_celine

17-03-2009, 03:20 PM

Blobs in Photos of Mars Lander Stir a Debate: Are They Water?

It's dew!:cool::) It's bloody obvious! I was just thinking that adding salt may keep it liquid at >O degrees C temperatures. i remember doing an experiement like that in my science class at school.

chattanova

06-04-2009, 01:03 PM

http://img15.picoodle.com/img/img15/3/4/6/kennet/f_chinapyramim_853ef4a.jpg

http://img15.picoodle.com/img/img15/3/4/6/kennet/f_elysiumpyram_c6d6016.gif

hagbard_celine

07-04-2009, 03:40 PM

http://img15.picoodle.com/img/img15/3/4/6/kennet/f_chinapyramim_853ef4a.jpg

http://img15.picoodle.com/img/img15/3/4/6/kennet/f_elysiumpyram_c6d6016.gif

The Mars structures look like pyramids to me. But we need to get closer to be sure... but NASA and other space agencies control our access to everything out there.

If these structures are artificial then they're incredibly old, a million plus times older than anything on Earth.:eek:

deany

08-04-2009, 06:17 PM

hagbard_celine

09-04-2009, 01:28 PM

it's too much of a coincidence to have such similar artificial looking shapes, spaced out relatively even;y in one area surely?

I can't see how these can be anything other than artificial personally, unless the pictures have been doctored.

I strongly suspect that many Mars photos are doctored and that these are the ones that slipped through by accident. Maybe the guy with the airbrush looked away when his secretary asked him if he wanted a cup of tea!:D Either that or the photoes were published before NASA understood that these artifacts were there.

deany

14-04-2009, 07:07 PM

I strongly suspect that many Mars photos are doctored and that these are the ones that slipped through by accident. Maybe the guy with the airbrush looked away when his secretary asked him if he wanted a cup of tea!:D Either that or the photoes were published before NASA understood that these artifacts were there.

I agree with you. But I just wonder sometimes if all these "slip ups" can all be errors? or is there a purpose behind them coming to our attention?

I don't know...

oiram

14-04-2009, 07:31 PM

If the moon landing was a hoax why could not the entire Mars exploration be a Hoax.

Follow the money trillions up for grabs if a Hoax works!

Just a question but, but it's not the first time & with all the computer power we have we can just about create any images you like.

Hoaxing, manipulation & lying is there trademark for more then 3000 years!

Are you disappointed well, well reality stinks sometimes.

What do you think why they own all the MSM our entire life time gets transmitted this way & books & schooling backs it all up "who owns & controls all the schools & book outlets?" how could we not believe?

But believing is not knowing it's just a believe like in religion.

Also believing is never without a shadow of a doubt

Think about it before you kick me!

After all the shit I think to know I do not believe nothing anymore if I did not fiscally seen it & touched it my self!
This earth is the biggest lying Planet in the universe & man is doing all the lying from the time they eaten the forbidden fruit.

Who knows maybe some chosen specific groups had a whole bucket full of the fruits:D

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/biggest_liar.jpg

deany

14-04-2009, 07:35 PM

gripit

14-04-2009, 10:16 PM

What about Richard Hoagland's Enterprise Mission (http://www.enterprisemission.com/ir_images.html) and these pics using some sort of ground penetrating radar? I'm not saying they're real, just posting them.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=3329

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=3328

hagbard_celine

17-04-2009, 09:49 AM

I agree with you. But I just wonder sometimes if all these "slip ups" can all be errors? or is there a purpose behind them coming to our attention?

I don't know...

It can't be ruled out.:confused: I wonder what they're playing at if they are deliberately leaking this stuff.

hagbard_celine

17-04-2009, 09:51 AM

gripit

17-04-2009, 02:46 PM

Blimey!:eek: This is a new one on me! I've read how Cydonia resembles Avebury, but this is even bigger... if it's true.:confused:

Apparently, there is a thin layer of sand/dirt over the ice...and massive cities are buried under there...apparently! :confused:

gripit

18-04-2009, 07:17 PM

Even if it's a hoax, cities under the ice are still fun to ponder! :)

More THEMIS pics from Hoagland's the enterprise mission site (http://www.enterprisemission.com/ir_analysis.html)...

*THEMIS is a thermal emission imaging system. It contains two independent multi-spectral imaging sub-systems:

IR = a 10-band thermal infrared imager
VIS = a 5-band visible imager

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5636/cydoniaghost11.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniaghost11.jpg)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/cydoniaghost11.jpg/1/w1187.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img17/cydoniaghost11.jpg/1/)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/332/cydoniaghost12.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniaghost12.jpg)

gripit

18-04-2009, 07:19 PM

"Glass tunnels" of Mars (http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/arthur.jpg)...

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/645/glasstunnels.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=glasstunnels.jpg)

gripit

18-04-2009, 07:29 PM

:confused:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8631/cydoniaghost16.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniaghost16.jpg)

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9357/cydoniafarm.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniafarm.jpg)

gripit

18-04-2009, 07:38 PM

colour analysis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stltd_5Ld7Y

and http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article713438.ece

looks like the famous bigfoot film :eek:

bigfoot patterson http://tiagopsc.altervista.org/ - YouTube

lol ;)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2341/marsfoot.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marsfoot.jpg)

gripit

18-04-2009, 07:53 PM

more from Hoagland (http://www.enterprisemission.com/Face-lift.htm)...

More than nine years ago, former NASA imaging specialist Vince DiPietro proposed that his new analysis of the Viking Face images showed the presence of not only what appeared to be an "eye socket," but also evidence of a "pupil" of the right size and shape to be a representation of such human features. Despite the fact that other researchers using different imaging techniques found the same feature, his prediction was ridiculed at that time by individuals both inside and outside of NASA, and his "bit-slice" imaging technique was roundly criticized.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8327/facel.gif (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facel.gif)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/facel.gif/1/w610.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img529/facel.gif/1/)

Now, it seems, DiPietro will have the last laugh.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7686/facelift1.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facelift1.jpg)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/facelift1.jpg/1/w732.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img232/facelift1.jpg/1/)

The first thing you notice about this new image, M16-00184 --a narrow swath cutting across the center forehead region of the Face and down across the right eye socket to the corner of the mouth -- is that what appeared to be an actual "eye socket" and "pupil" in the earlier Viking and MGS images are, in fact, just that. Unbelievably for our critics, the "eye socket" is perfectly shaped and positioned to represent a human eye, and even though the outlines of the socket are somewhat faded from the sun angle and lack of contrast, it takes very little imagination (or enhancement) to determine just what the original shape truly was.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5033/facelift3.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facelift3.jpg)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/facelift3.jpg/1/w300.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img232/facelift3.jpg/1/)

In fact, Curt Jonach, of the "Electric Warrior" (http://www.electricwarrior.com/) web site, has done a very presentable job of highlighting the clearly present and obviously genuine contours of the socket as they might have appeared in their heyday. Normally, these kind of interpretations are dismissed as just that, an interpretation, but in this case absolutely no "fudging" or additions are required. He simply emphasized lines that are flatly present on the structure. And the presence of the "pupil," so controversial previously, can now be placed alongside most of the other predictions of the various independent Cydonia researchers as proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

In short, it's an Eyeball fellas. Get used to it.

gripit

18-04-2009, 08:00 PM

the sun rises on 'the face'...

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9493/cydonialightt.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydonialightt.jpg)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/cydonialightt.jpg/1/w400.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img524/cydonialightt.jpg/1/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1103/cydoniaanimationt.gif (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniaanimationt.gif)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/cydoniaanimationt.gif/1/w392.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img19/cydoniaanimationt.gif/1/)

oiram

18-04-2009, 08:05 PM

Like it or not!

We can not trust one freaking single image coming from NASA!
Don't forget who owns & controls it.

Also if they give us information Why & what for.

We are cattle in there eyes so what changed this?

If there is or was Life on mars it will be still there tomorrow but with the manipulators in power we are waisting our time to work it all out.

Let's hope there are real Aliens & that they know the Evil on Earth & are on our side.

They better come now to help because Human kind is to stupid & lost & will never fix shit with all these dreamers, liars & hollow heads around.

Don't get me wrong because I say we are the product of Aliens long time ago.
Is this what people see as God power the creator of us?

If there are Aliens they will know every single part of us. If they will ever be back I hope they will not present them selfs through any Government Shit because it will be a hoax 100% I am convinced.

Once a Alien takes you by the hand personally then we may have a talk about it & I still don't believe you if I did not see & touched it with you're company present to confirm my visualization.

You see I don't trust or believe anything or any human then my self; so you can & will never win with me in you're life time.

If there are any Aliens on Earth now means they are the biggest assholes by killing millions of Human kind & watching the party.

If it comes from a politician it's a lie!
If it comes from the MSM it's a lie!
If it comes from paid off fully controlled Scientists sponsored by government money it's a lie!
If it is written in a book which gets promoted & went through the screening system of the Elites owned outlets it's a lie.

Don't you understand this?
I know you don't like to understand because you are so special & could not be fooled ever.

gripit

18-04-2009, 08:31 PM

Like it or not!

We can not trust one freaking single image coming from NASA!
Don't forget who owns & controls it.

Also if they give us information Why & what for.

We are cattle in there eyes so what changed this?

If there is or was Life on mars it will be still there tomorrow but with the manipulators in power we are waisting our time to work it all out.

Let's hope there are real Aliens & that they know the Evil on Earth & are on our side.

They better come now to help because Human kind is to stupid & lost & will never fix shit with all these dreamers, liars & hollow heads around.

Don't get me wrong because I say we are the product of Aliens long time ago.
Is this what people see as God power the creator of us?

If there are Aliens they will know every single part of us. If they will ever be back I hope they will not present them selfs through any Governments Shit because it will be a hoax 100% I am convinced.

Once a Alien takes you by the hand personally then we may have a talk about it.

If there are any Aliens on Earth now means they are the biggest assholes by killing millions of Human kind & watching the party.

Oh, I agree about not trusting anything from NASA...or anyone! Christ, everything we've ever been told is a lie!

I agree that we need help! and yes, if the Aliens are already here...then WTF?! I would hope that there are alien races friendly to our cause...but for now, the madness continues...sigh.

P.S. thanks for the links in your signature...actually, no, i didn't know YET! i knew we were being scammed, but fuuuuuuuck me.

chattanova

18-04-2009, 08:44 PM

Great posts gripit, keep em coming! :cool:

oiram

18-04-2009, 08:47 PM

Oh, I agree about not trusting anything from NASA...or anyone! Christ, everything we've ever been told is a lie!

I agree that we need help! and yes, if the Aliens are already here...then WTF?! I would hope that there are alien races friendly to our cause...but for now, the madness continues...sigh.

P.S. thanks for the links in your signature...actually, no, i didn't know YET! i knew we were being scammed, but fuuuuuuuck me.
Most of us are searching for the exact same thing but as long these control freaks & liars are around & in power we will get absolutely nowhere.

Once this key part is solved; yes then the universe is in front of us.

These assholes stopped Human evolution 2009 years ago.
I know Who they are; do you all know?

This is my last fight because we are all on there list already like they had a list in Cambodia. Same group of people which supported, organized & funded Cambodia's operation & all other Revolution's & Wars in history.

gripit

18-04-2009, 09:09 PM

Most of us are searching for the exact same thing but as long these control freaks & liars are around & in power we will get absolutely nowhere.

Once this key part is solved; yes then the universe is in front of us.

These assholes stopped Human evolution 2009 years ago.
I know Who they are; do you all know?

This is my last fight because we are all on there list already like they had a list in Cambodia. Same group of people which supported, organized & funded Cambodia's operation & all other Revulsions & Wars in history.

Thank u for your always insightful posts, oiram. The truth about what really goes on is indeed disturbing. I'm just becoming aware of many things and my research shall continue. I like threads like this cuz they take my mind off the madness. So there you have it, threads about Martians take my mind off the madness! What does that say about our state of affairs, lol!

OK, fuck this planet, back to the 'red one'...or Sedona, Arizona :D

Look at this direct comparison (below): between the MGS 2001 black and white image of the Face, and the latest Odyssey pre-dawn color view. As can be seen, "something" about that eastern surface is creating an intensely mirror-like reflection of the pre-dawn Martian lighting - and in a distinctly geometric pattern. Could this merely be some type of inherently bright "scattering" material … like snow?

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7404/cydoniaodysseyfacet.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniaodysseyfacet.jpg)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/cydoniaodysseyfacet.jpg/1/w400.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img19/cydoniaodysseyfacet.jpg/1/)

This pre-dawn Odyssey image finally allows a direct comparison of key morphological predictions re the eastern side, against the actual lit view … which up 'til now have been based totally on images illuminated from the west. Kynthia, the Enterprise art director for many years, has spent considerable time and effort painstakingly sculpting (in clay - remember that?!), as well as with computer-generated models, what the eastern "feline" side should look like … when we finally had Odyssey's new view.

Below is a direct comparison.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9303/cydoniakynthiamaltaodys.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniakynthiamaltaodys.jpg)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/cydoniakynthiamaltaodys.jpg/1/w400.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img524/cydoniakynthiamaltaodys.jpg/1/)

gripit

18-04-2009, 09:23 PM

more on the D&M pyramid from Hoagland (http://www.enterprisemission.com/paper_1/paper_1.php?page=paper1)...

Finally, examination of this remarkable pre-dawn Odyssey frame reveals a possible solution to another long-standing mystery about Cydonia (below): the true nature of the "D&M."

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/738/cydoniadmviking70a11t.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniadmviking70a11t.jpg)
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/cydoniadmviking70a11t.jpg/1/w267.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img135/cydoniadmviking70a11t.jpg/1/)

Discovered on the original 1976 Viking images, this singular five-sided feature (above), located just a few miles southwest of the Face, has come to represent - -perhaps even more than the celebrated "Face" itself - the continuing, haunting enigma of Cydonia …. Properly termed the "mathematical Rosetta Stone," because of its unique and telling internal mathematical relationships, the physical nature of this object remains a major Martian mystery.

Beginning with the geomorphologically anomalous five-sided form presented here from Viking (above), additional Odyssey B&W imagery last year revealed another geometric aspect to this fascinating feature's profound internal symmetry (below).

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9120/cydoniapyramidnewgeomet.jpg (http://img2.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniapyramidnewgeomet.jpg)

But, mysteriously, even though the Mars Surveyor spacecraft has been in orbit for over six years, Michael Malin (Principal Investigator of the MOC camera aboard the MGS) has yet to release a full-on, high-resolution (>5meters) image of this extraordinary, obviously highly symmetrical Cydonia structure. Without such detailed close-ups, fundamental questions regarding the true nature of this object will remain unanswered ….

It was with some interest, then, that we realized that in the bottom left portion of this Odyssey "dawn" image, the "northeast quadrant" of the D&M had, in fact, been imaged … at ~20 meter resolution (roughly twice that of Viking) -- and in color. Perhaps even more important, whereas all previous D&M images (Viking and Odyssey) have been taken with the sun coming from the left, in this image the Pyramid is clearly illuminated from the right - the direction of the not-yet-risen-sun.

It is immediately apparent in this image that the D&M - named by the author after the two original Goddard contract imaging specialists who found it on the Viking imagery, Vince DiPietro and Greg Molenaar --- is as reflective at this viewing angle as the Face itself!

Significantly, the "mesa in the middle" (below), is scattering just about what would be expected in this lighting, while the Face (top) and D&M (below, left) are distinctly far too bright …. Again, differences in height or surface slopes should make no difference here … as the source of illumination is a large, diffuse area in the Martian eastern sky many degrees above the Cydonia horizon (see again, Viking and Pathfinder surface images, above).

Clearly, whatever material is making the Face literally "glow" in this pre-dawn light, is also having the same effect upon the mysterious "D&M" ….

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/5047/cydonialaneyfacedmclose.jpg (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydonialaneyfacedmclose.jpg)
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/cydonialaneyfacedmclose.jpg/1/w320.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img56/cydonialaneyfacedmclose.jpg/1/)

In this close-up Enterprise enhancement (below), this overwhelming glare has been substantially reduced … allowing details of the "protected" northeast side for the first

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2991/cydoniadmodysseyenhance.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniadmodysseyenhance.jpg)
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/cydoniadmodysseyenhance.jpg/1/w400.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img211/cydoniadmodysseyenhance.jpg/1/)

time to emerge. And, in this comparison (below, far right), a veritable "honeycomb" of highly rectilinear, room-like features finally are exposed.

Again, this new view now provides startling confirmation of a hypothesis initially framed in the first edition of "Monuments," now almost 20 years ago: namely, that the D&M is literally hollow - created as a vast, compartmentalized "super condominium" … a true "arcology" on Mars. The ordered geometry - together with the anomalous reflectivity seen here, only reinforce that original view …

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8751/cydoniadmvikodysseyt.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cydoniadmvikodysseyt.jpg)
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/cydoniadmvikodysseyt.jpg/1/w420.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img258/cydoniadmvikodysseyt.jpg/1/)

gripit

18-04-2009, 11:39 PM

the Martian Sphinx (http://www.enterprisemission.com/Path-sphinx.html), lol...

Using a technique called "Super Resolution Surface Modeling," in the several years since Pathfinder, NASA scientists have been able to take multiple images of the Pathfinder landing site and enhance them well beyond their original resolving capability. Recently, a reader, Giuseppe Pezzella from Naples, Italy, pointed me to the official NASA image archive for these "super resolution" images. After downloading a few, it quickly became apparent that something - completely unnoticed at the time, and even more interesting (if that's possible) than the potential nearby artifacts analyzed by Nicks and Hoagland -- might have been imaged on the Martian landscape … between South Peak and Pathfinder itself (below).

What had been merely a huge "blocky shape" on the original scenes, suddenly emerged as "recognizable" on the new, highly processed images. I did a "double take" on the shape Giuseppe pointed out ...

Even from this compressed narrative perspective, you can see in these NASA-enhanced close-ups (above) that this Martian Sphinx has all the classic earmarks of its Egyptian counterpart: there are two attached and extended "forepaws"; a body (complete with what looks to be a feline hind leg); and a very clear rounded Face, encompassed by a symmetrical nemes-like Pharaohic "headdress!" The Headdress even has two opposing angles just below the "chin" - extending outward at about a 45° angle. These characteristics alone -- the extended symmetrical paws, and the rounded Face framed by that familiar headdress - coupled with its context, lying to the East of a strikingly pyramidal-looking structure, would normally be enough to call this formation's natural genesis into serious question. But when you view it side-by-side with its counterpart on Earth -- the Giza Sphinx itself -- the resemblance is totally uncanny ...

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/763/sphinx4.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sphinx4.jpg)

... A Sphinx!

Given Hoagland's now strikingly confirmed "leonine" dual Face image lying at Cydonia, my mouth basically dropped open when I saw this other, "eerily familiar shape" crouching there in front of Pathfinder's "South Peak Pyramid." It struck me as not only of the right size and form for nothing less than a Great Martian Sphinx (!) -- but it was in the right position as well (out in front of the background Pyramid!). It lay some distance from the Pathfinder Lander, at the edge of the previously mapped debris field … near the base of South Peak. And -- like its counterpart on Earth -- also faced East … directly toward the Martian equinoctial sunrise. There were even a couple of what appeared to be "vertically-faced buildings" to the left of this potential "Martian Sphinx"; they could easily be viewed as "a temple," or a distant entrance to the background Pyramid Arcology itself.

In ancient Egypt, Sphinxes were used to "guard" temples, tombs and monuments. The grandest example of these, and probably the earliest on Earth, is the Great Sphinx at Giza -- forever guarding the three Great Pyramids on the Plateau. As a Sphinx carries out this task, it is always in the same repose: lying flat on its stomach … forepaws extended outward … ready to "pounce" into action at a moment's notice. Sphinxes invariably have the head of man (or woman?), to go with their lion's body. The head, in turn, is framed by the characteristic banded "nemes" headdress (which is meant, of course, to signify the lions mane).

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7755/sphinx6.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sphinx6.jpg)

And remember - this "Martian Sphinx" is guarding an obvious "pyramid" on Mars … at 19.5° N Latitude by 33° W Longitude ...

gripit

18-04-2009, 11:48 PM

more face shots...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9652/facee0300824proc50perc.gif (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facee0300824proc50perc.gif)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/facee0300824proc50perc.gif/1/w1200.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/facee0300824proc50perc.gif/1/)

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1317/hominidlion.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hominidlion.jpg)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/hominidlion.jpg/1/w1700.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img18/hominidlion.jpg/1/)

gripit

19-04-2009, 12:05 AM

Rover/Spirit landing shot (http://www.nationalufocenter.com/artman/publish/article_208.php)...

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/187/5marsroverspiritlanding.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5marsroverspiritlanding.jpg)

gripit

19-04-2009, 12:31 AM

City (http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/187/5marsroverspiritlanding.jpg)?

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2976/marsgridc1.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marsgridc1.jpg)

To the left is a city grid of mars to the right is a city grid of a major city in our country.

gripit

19-04-2009, 12:44 AM

another structure (http://www.enterprisemission.com/LostCitiesofBarsoom.htm)?

Examination of high-resolution close-ups -- enlarged from this first MRO mosaic (below) -- demonstrate multiple areas (in the original 361-square-mile-image) that exhibit striking, rectilinear, geometries and obvious orthogonal alignments -- providing compelling new evidence of non-geological, artificial ruins (!) lurking just beneath the surface of this desert Martian landscape ... revealed lying in the bottoms of several ancient craters ....

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/397/marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img10/marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg/1/)

When this stunning "Martian ruin" (below, right) is compared to similar structures here on Earth -- as in this 1936 aerial photograph of a long-abandoned "~eighteen hundred-year-old Sasanian Palace" in Iran (below, left) -- the eerie geometric similarity is instantly apparent.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8315/marscomparisonsofruinsi.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marscomparisonsofruinsi.jpg)
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/marscomparisonsofruinsi.jpg/1/w1500.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img13/marscomparisonsofruinsi.jpg/1/)

The MRO HiRISE 20-inch telescope/CCD camera system -- even from an altitude of more than 1500 miles -- clearly has resolved remarkable, intricate, architectural details (below) of this impact-excavated subterranean "Martian complex" ....

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1420/marsmroexcavatedcomplex.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marsmroexcavatedcomplex.jpg)

2006 update.

The color version of these enigmatic structures from the color HiRISE image (below), reveals tantalizing hints of what's to come.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1844/mroexcavatedcomplexcolo.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mroexcavatedcomplexcolo.jpg)

gripit

19-04-2009, 12:59 AM

more Hoagland city stuff (http://www.enterprisemission.com/LostCitiesofBarsoom.htm) lol :)

Other areas of this detailed MRO mosaic (below) exhibit even more extensive evidence of ancient, still partially-buried architectural remains.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/397/marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/marsmrofirstimagepia080.jpg/1/)

Here (below) is a close-up of the area outlined in white above. The scale (derived from the original, extremely large MRO mosaic) is "586 feet per inch" (~8 feet per pixel). Note the clearly rectangular (and even cubical) features regularly patterning the entire right-hand side.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/783/marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg/1/w499.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg/1/)

A further sectional enlargement of this section of the image (below), reveals even more clearly these striking structural details -- some appearing as "ghostly" rectangular outlines, still mantled with their eroding overburden of reddish Martian dirt...

The half-buried "cubical" structures are slowly being uncovered, as those on the right have been revealed, by Martian winds steadily eroding away the remaining massive sediments ... apparently deposited a long time ago by some unknown "massive influx" of material. Whether this debris was airborn (volcanic dust), or water-born (carried in a massive flood) is currently unknown ....

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/783/marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg)
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg/1/w499.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img16/marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg/1/)

Another terrestrial comparison (below) emphasizes the totally "un-natural" appearance of this Martian geometric network ... and what it actually, strikingly resembles.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4985/marscomparisonqasriabun.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marscomparisonqasriabun.jpg)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/marscomparisonqasriabun.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img4/marscomparisonqasriabun.jpg/1/)

Another close-up from the same MRO mosaic (rotated 50 degrees, clockwise -- below) demonstrates that not all "quasi-circular features" on Mars are simple "impact craters."

This remarkably preserved example exhibits organized, interior geometric detail characteristic of a massive, designed building ... surrounded by six, geometrically aligned, surviving elevated "walls" -- minus a possible roof! The massive former structure is attended by an array of additional, still partially-buried rectilinear features just outside.

The scale of the circular building is about 600 feet ... the size of a typical terrestrial football stadium. The surrounding rectilinear features are the size of average city buildings on Earth ....

Sunlight is coming from the right ....

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/783/marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marspartiallyexhumedmar.jpg)

gripit

19-04-2009, 01:04 AM

:)

Just east of the previous close-up lies THIS highly geometric ruin (below), revealed lying almost intact in the bottom of a ~2000-foot-wide collapse feature (NOT an impact crater!), within this ancient canyon wall ....

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5350/hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg/1/w537.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img19/hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg/1/)

Noteworthy is the fact that similar-scale, geometrically-spaced objects appear to lie on the ground surface all around this wide depression. Yet, revealed by the collapse, this "complex" at the bottom obviously lies several hundred feet below this surrounding surface ... indicating that, either an entire, single massive structure fell almost undamaged into a "hole" which opened up in the surface (unlikely) ....

Or--

This section of our "buried Martian city" also extends downward ... at least several hundred feet!

And the observed "surface depression" is the result of the surface collapse of a former "dome-shaped roof" over the interior architecture -- a ~1000-foot-wide "buried Martian arcology" -- revealing the geometric organization of its former interior "sub-structures" (close-up, below) ....

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5350/hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg/1/w600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img21/hirisecloseupcloseupful.jpg/1/)

gripit

19-04-2009, 01:14 AM

more artificial stuff (http://www.enterprisemission.com/LostCitiesofBarsoom.htm)? :eek:

Besides countless earlier examples of equally astonishing "half-buried artificial structures on the Red Planet," captured by every previous NASA unmanned spacecraft -- such as this remarkable find (below, right), imaged by Mars Global Surveyor a few years ago ... of another striking, obviously sand-covered artificial ruin on Mars, located at 28.38° N., 332.54° W., in a region called (appropriately) "Arabia Terra"--
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2953/comparisonburiedsingler.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comparisonburiedsingler.jpg)

--we also find a more clandestine record of completely independent but strikingly similar Soviet confirmation of "ET Martian ruins."

The prime example of Soviet contributions in this area came with the ill-fated Phobos 2 Mars Mission, in 1989.

Phobos 2 -- before it was mysteriously "lost" (after only 90 days in Mars orbit) -- transmitted striking infrared images (below) of additional, highly geometric, also half-buried Martian features ,,, eerily similar (but in a totally different region -- Hydroates Chaos ...) to our latest "buried Martian city" (northwest of the Argyre Impact Basin).

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7010/phoboscompositeburiedci.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phoboscompositeburiedci.jpg)
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/phoboscompositeburiedci.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img16/phoboscompositeburiedci.jpg/1/)

In 2002, when NASA's Mars Odyssey Mission released its first nighttime IR "test" images -- exactly 13 years (to the day!) after Phobos 2 acquired its own anomalous IR of its "buried Martian city" -- the Odyssey data also revealed an astonishing set of incredibly geometric, half-buried Martian landforms ... in a region "right next door" to the Soviet Phobos 2 images -- in "Hydaspsis Chaos" (2° North/ 29° West -- below).

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7572/hchaos13.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hchaos13.jpg)
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/hchaos13.jpg/1/w608.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img16/hchaos13.jpg/1/)

Although NASA/JPL tried to pass these astonishing, clearly artificial structures off as merely typical "Martian mesas," the undeniable, incredibly redundant geometric nature of the objects (both inside and out -- note the "double, triple, and even quadruple, parallel walls!"), and their obvious, carefully designed architectural layout in relation to each other ... argued compellingly for a totally different scenario ....

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7711/hydaspischaosthemis2.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hydaspischaosthemis2.jpg)
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/hydaspischaosthemis2.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img211/hydaspischaosthemis2.jpg/1/)

A comparison with a partially-buried ruin in Iran (below, left) reveals an astonishing similarity between this Earthly, man-made structure ... with it's periodic "walled fortifications" -- and its vastly larger, but identically "walled" counterparts ... on Mars!

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3629/comparisonhydaspsischao.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comparisonhydaspsischao.jpg)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/comparisonhydaspsischao.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img404/comparisonhydaspsischao.jpg/1/)

gripit

19-04-2009, 01:33 AM

More colour images, cool stuff :)

Looking back to the larger color frame (below) -- just to the northeast of this anomalous collection of geometric "stuff" in the crater floor -- there appear to be two curious "greenish triangles" that immediately stand out as also "unusual" in this false color view.

One appears to be a raised feature -- a roughly trianglular-shaped mesa. The other is clearly a shallow depression in the desert ... with another collection of semi-organized features on its floor ....

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3283/mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img4/mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg/1/)

An even closer view (below) reveals tantalizing hints that we may be seeing more remains of ruins--

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3283/mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg)
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg/1/w780.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img5/mrofirstcolorgreentrian.jpg/1/)

For, the green "triangular mesa" contains a perfect right angle "base" on the upper right (northeast) corner, as well as eroded geometry on top that eerily echoes this same rectilinear pattern. This northeast/southwest alignment is also shared by the collection of much smaller objects on the floor of the near-by "green triangular depression."

Most striking, indeed, is the definite green color of both these features ....

The same "green"--

Which revealed itself in the rectilinear collection of apparent structures in the nearby crater floor!

If these are, indeed, artificial remains of ancient buildings and more massive Martian structures, eroding out of the desert sands that had somehow originally buried them a long, long time ago ... were both sets of objects originally made from the same artificial alloy, or material ... which is now being detected as "greenish stuff" in this false color, HIRISE view?

And, could future high-resolution CRISM observations of these same features confirm such a possible scenario ...?

The answer's "Yes!"

Again -- as with the B&W MRO mosaic released earlier -- we have only "scratched the surface" of the details of this extraordinary HIRISE color image. There is more ....

Stay tuned.

gripit

19-04-2009, 05:31 AM

chattanova

19-04-2009, 08:18 AM

Goddamn, that was fun :) Hey chattanova, you must be one the lucky unemployed, like me. That was a lot of work, lol!

OK, one more for the evening :)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9333/lifeonmarsgif.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeonmarsgif.jpg)

Lol it's easy to be hooked, look at me I'm picture post junkie :o
What can destroy my day is when imageshack/picoodle wont cooperate with my terrible slow internet.
You've done some amazing posts here now so you can take the evening now with a good feeling mate:) -great work-

gripit

19-04-2009, 08:36 AM

Lol it's easy to be hooked, look at me I'm picture post junkie :o
What can destroy my day is when imageshack/picoodle wont cooperate with my terrible slow internet.
You've done some amazing posts here now so you can take the evening now with a good feeling mate:) -great work-

thx chattanova ;) It's interesting stuff! Good to post all and let the viewer decide. It's a wacky world/realm/dimension/parallel/frequency or whatever the hell you wanna call it that we live/exist in...so who the hell knows? :)

hagbard_celine

21-04-2009, 10:32 AM

Just in case we're thinking of going to see for ourselves! :D

http://i42.tinypic.com/33f5p40.jpg

Seriously though, Chat and Gripit. thanks for the amazing pics. If they're real then Mars is not what we think it is!:cool:

chattanova

10-05-2009, 05:02 PM

'Alien skull' spotted on Mars

UFO spotters are claiming they have spotted an alien skull on Mars after NASA beamed back satellite images from the planet.

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/2/5/10/kennet/f_skull139485m_ae62273.jpg
An oddly shaped space boulder appears to show eye sockets and a nose leading to speculation it might be a Martian skull

At first glance it looks like a rocky desert - but this image of the Mars landscape has got space-gazers talking.

An oddly shaped space boulder appears to show eye sockets and a nose leading to speculation it might be a Martian skull.

Internet forums are full of chatter about the picture, taken by a panoramic NASA camera known as Spirit.

One alien-spotter speculated: "The skull is 15 cm with binocular eyes 5 cm apart. The cranial capacity is approximately 1400 cc.

"There appears to be a narrow pointed small mouth, so this creature most likely is a carnivore."

Another joked: "The coronal ridge shows ample structure to support the musculature of antennae, although none are visible in this view.

"The nose area is broad and blunted as you would expect to see in a cold and windy landscape. Is he decapitated or is he buried up to his neck?"

Previous images of a skull spotted on Mars in 2006 were believed to have been the result of tampering.

The famous Face on Mars, snapped by the Viking 1 spacecraft in 1976, which showed the shadowy likeness of a human face was late, was found to be a trick of the light when the area was re-photographed in 1998.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/5255394/Alien-skull-spotted-on-Mars.html

deany

11-05-2009, 10:50 AM

Chatt,

do you have the previous skull images from Mars in 2006 that's mentioned in your last post?

cheers mate

chattanova

11-05-2009, 04:24 PM

Chatt,

do you have the previous skull images from Mars in 2006 that's mentioned in your last post?

cheers mate

I'm not exactly sure what they are referring to but it probably have to be this
cheers :-)

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/2/5/11/kennet/f_1102skullcom_5e7de55.jpg

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2006/102/mars-humanoid-skull.htm

deany

12-05-2009, 11:26 AM

chattanova

12-05-2009, 04:52 PM

cheers mate,

was that last pic confirmed as authentic by NASA (not that that means anything)

or could it have been tampered with?

that blatantly looks like a skull with all the sockets in the right place and distance apart etc at first look

No problem :) It's authentic , NASA original source/picture: http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/513/2P171912249EFFAAL4P2425L7M1.HTML

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/2/5/12/kennet/f_2102skullclm_b1b5bb3.jpg

branjo

12-05-2009, 10:13 PM

Brilliant thread!

chattanova

27-05-2009, 04:09 PM

Strange 'Moving' Object On Mars!

full thread http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread466666/pg1

chattanova

01-06-2009, 09:05 AM

Did NASA Destroy The Face On Mars??

http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/2/6/1/kennet/f_0d6c2d7d433m_6449652.jpg

full thread http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread468075/pg1

malkor

02-06-2009, 01:07 AM

Did NASA Destroy The Face On Mars??

It would be far more easier just to edit the picture for public consumption.

rynath

02-06-2009, 01:45 AM

Strange 'Moving' Object On Mars!

full thread http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread466666/pg1

Now that's a bit odd. Are we dealing with doctored photos, something moving an object or is the object alive? Rocks don't move on their own without the force of nature so this is a head-scratcher.

oddblock

02-06-2009, 01:52 AM

Now that's a bit odd. Are we dealing with doctored photos, something moving an object or is the object alive? Rocks don't move on their own without the force of nature so this is a head-scratcher.

My money is on doctoring but that's just on instinct, we have similar moving stones on earth if that is what's happening.

I take it Nasa havent explained this or even addressed it?

rynath

02-06-2009, 02:01 AM

My money is on doctoring but that's just on instinct, we have similar moving stones on earth if that is what's happening.

I take it Nasa havent explained this or even addressed it?

I haven't seen any info from NASA about these photos as this the first time I'm seeing them. The force of the wind moving the rocks can definately be done in nature if the conditions are right...but this area doesn't look all that accomodating. Does anyone ever get tired of speculations? I wish I had some solid answers for once :(

I speak of myself in the above statement. So many times my answers are met by more questions which usually lead to many more dead ends. It can be frustrating but I have to keep looking. I don't know if I can ever stop looking.

rynath

02-06-2009, 02:38 AM

Here are some shots of moving rocks in Death Valley for comparison:

Moving Rocks - YouTube

malkor

02-06-2009, 06:39 AM

Here are some shots of moving rocks in Death Valley for comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHJKKdEo8TQ&feature=related

No real comparison. Those rocks are on flat, sandy land that is seasonally wet, likely pushed as the seasonal waters come in. I've also heard the story of wind blowing very light stone. But the mars rock hasn't rolled at all, it's in exactly the same orientation. I think the best likely explanation is that this is a copy/paste job and the rock is there to hide something.

chattanova

02-06-2009, 04:17 PM

Mars Anomaly; Strange artifact caught by rover Spirit

VIDEO http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/24487/MARS_ANOMALY__Strange_artifact_caught_by_rover_Spi/

Another hard evidence of ancient intelligences on Mars, was caught by rover Spirit. A strange metallic artifact cleary manufactured that seems to be part of some major device buried in the ground. The terrain is solid rocky, no sand dunes around, then I assume that whatever it was, got buried thousands of years ago in some avalanche. Original pic available to further investigation in http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/1402/2P250825588EFFAW9DP2432R1M1.JPG

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/1402/2P250825588EFFAW9DP2432R1M1.JPG

http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/24487/MARS_ANOMALY__Strange_artifact_caught_by_rover_Spi/

rynath

02-06-2009, 10:55 PM

No real comparison. Those rocks are on flat, sandy land that is seasonally wet, likely pushed as the seasonal waters come in. I've also heard the story of wind blowing very light stone. But the mars rock hasn't rolled at all, it's in exactly the same orientation. I think the best likely explanation is that this is a copy/paste job and the rock is there to hide something.

I'm leaning towards this myself. Thx for the input :)

hagbard_celine

03-06-2009, 02:23 PM

It would be far more easier just to edit the picture for public consumption.

It would, but maybe they've learned their lessons from faking the moon landings and are now thinking more long term.

To destroy such a precious monument as the Face is the ultimate in barbarism
:mad::(. But sadly it's not unexpected. Our rulers have never been reverent of human heritage before.

I hope it's not true and they've simply diddled the imagery.:confused:

hagbard_celine

03-06-2009, 02:24 PM

Now that's a bit odd. Are we dealing with doctored photos, something moving an object or is the object alive? Rocks don't move on their own without the force of nature so this is a head-scratcher.

Unfortunately the angles of the two shots don't match. The object that moved could be hidden by the left hand rock in the second photo.:confused:

malkor

04-06-2009, 05:25 AM

Unfortunately the angles of the two shots don't match. The object that moved could be hidden by the left hand rock in the second photo.:confused:

The angles don't make too much impact since the rover didn't move very far during those days; further, in one of the shots, the stone completely vanishes. In order for the stone to vanish and then reappear, the rover would have had to make a significant circuit around the object site, perhaps 80 degrees or more. However, by considering the orientation of the two large stones, we can see that the angle only changes about 10 degrees horizontally, and perhaps half as much vertically. Certainly not enough to start off with no stone, then stone in the middle, then no stone again, then stone on the far left in 4 different images and 13 days.

lyricusmagna

04-06-2009, 05:02 PM

lostinstrangeworld

05-06-2009, 02:17 PM

I think that a lot of people living on Earth are descended from survivors of races on Mars. I wonder whether those in control over the distribution and censorship of information are worried that what they know could have huge implications as far as human prejudice over each other is concerned? People treat each other badly enough as it is, if it is revealed to the world that we are descended from various cultures from the stars.....what then?

I'd be fine with it as I feel that all life is interconnected whatever the case is.....but many people are still living under the illusion that we are separate and that we have to keep beating each other up!

lostinstrangeworld

05-06-2009, 02:20 PM

I heard that a group of Alpha Draconians have a base there. An underground one.

I wonder why there is so much evil, especially in such reptilian beings....if they exist? I wonder what caused evil to exist in this dimension to begin with? :( Sinking deeper into the illusion? Fear?

William Blake - Auguries of Innocence

To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.

A robin redbreast in a cage
Puts all heaven in a rage.

A dove-house fill'd with doves and pigeons
Shudders hell thro' all its regions.
A dog starv'd at his master's gate
Predicts the ruin of the state.

A horse misused upon the road
Calls to heaven for human blood.
Each outcry of the hunted hare
A fibre from the brain does tear.

A skylark wounded in the wing,
A cherubim does cease to sing.
The game-cock clipt and arm'd for fight
Does the rising sun affright.

Every wolf's and lion's howl
Raises from hell a human soul.

The wild deer, wand'ring here and there,
Keeps the human soul from care.
The lamb misus'd breeds public strife,
And yet forgives the butcher's knife.

The bat that flits at close of eve
Has left the brain that won't believe.
The owl that calls upon the night
Speaks the unbeliever's fright.

He who shall hurt the little wren
Shall never be belov'd by men.
He who the ox to wrath has mov'd
Shall never be by woman lov'd.

The wanton boy that kills the fly
Shall feel the spider's enmity.
He who torments the chafer's sprite
Weaves a bower in endless night.

The caterpillar on the leaf
Repeats to thee thy mother's grief.
Kill not the moth nor butterfly,
For the last judgement draweth nigh.

He who shall train the horse to war
Shall never pass the polar bar.
The beggar's dog and widow's cat,
Feed them and thou wilt grow fat.

The gnat that sings his summer's song
Poison gets from slander's tongue.
The poison of the snake and newt
Is the sweat of envy's foot.

The poison of the honey bee
Is the artist's jealousy.

The prince's robes and beggar's rags
Are toadstools on the miser's bags.
A truth that's told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent.

It is right it should be so;
Man was made for joy and woe;
And when this we rightly know,
Thro' the world we safely go.

Joy and woe are woven fine,
A clothing for the soul divine.
Under every grief and pine
Runs a joy with silken twine.

The babe is more than swaddling bands;
Every farmer understands.
Every tear from every eye
Becomes a babe in eternity;

This is caught by females bright,
And return'd to its own delight.
The bleat, the bark, bellow, and roar,
Are waves that beat on heaven's shore.

The babe that weeps the rod beneath
Writes revenge in realms of death.
The beggar's rags, fluttering in air,
Does to rags the heavens tear.

The soldier, arm'd with sword and gun,
Palsied strikes the summer's sun.
The poor man's farthing is worth more
Than all the gold on Afric's shore.

One mite wrung from the lab'rer's hands
Shall buy and sell the miser's lands;
Or, if protected from on high,
Does that whole nation sell and buy.

He who mocks the infant's faith
Shall be mock'd in age and death.
He who shall teach the child to doubt
The rotting grave shall ne'er get out.

He who respects the infant's faith
Triumphs over hell and death.
The child's toys and the old man's reasons
Are the fruits of the two seasons.

The questioner, who sits so sly,
Shall never know how to reply.
He who replies to words of doubt
Doth put the light of knowledge out.

The strongest poison ever known
Came from Caesar's laurel crown.
Nought can deform the human race
Like to the armour's iron brace.

When gold and gems adorn the plow,
To peaceful arts shall envy bow.
A riddle, or the cricket's cry,
Is to doubt a fit reply.

The emmet's inch and eagle's mile
Make lame philosophy to smile.
He who doubts from what he sees
Will ne'er believe, do what you please.

If the sun and moon should doubt,
They'd immediately go out.
To be in a passion you good may do,
But no good if a passion is in you.

The whore and gambler, by the state
Licensed, build that nation's fate.
The harlot's cry from street to street
Shall weave old England's winding-sheet.

The winner's shout, the loser's curse,
Dance before dead England's hearse.

Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born,
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.

Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

We are led to believe a lie
When we see not thro' the eye,
Which was born in a night to perish in a night,
When the soul slept in beams of light.

God appears, and God is light,
To those poor souls who dwell in night;
But does a human form display
To those who dwell in realms of day.

chattanova

08-06-2009, 06:48 PM

Sol 676 - Black Box ?

http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/2/6/8/kennet/f_efa5c02da39m_8029f63.png

original thread http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread470720/pg1

branjo

09-06-2009, 12:47 AM

Sol 676 - Black Box ?

Wow, ok that is a box, no "ifs", "ands" or "buts", that is an artificial object.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3711/marsbox.jpg

This pic of it again from the ATS site, enhanced by BlueShaman, clearly shows the box has a lip that looks like its also has a lid, then there is a hole to the back and what looks like a "cable" covered with dust leading to it but just not plugged in.

This looks like some part of a machine to me.

Excellent picture.

sexi_co

09-06-2009, 11:40 AM

Now that's a bit odd. Are we dealing with doctored photos, something moving an object or is the object alive? Rocks don't move on their own without the force of nature so this is a head-scratcher.

This is an easy one. Its just the angle that the picture is taken at. The 1st picture just crops out the 'moving object'. Look at the angle at which you are looking at the rocks, now go to pic 2, see the angle that you are looking at the rocks around it. Now picture 3, see again the angle at which you are seeing the surrounding rocks. The moving obeject isnt moving at all, the rover taking the pictures is.

rynath

09-06-2009, 01:29 PM

This is an easy one. Its just the angle that the picture is taken at. The 1st picture just crops out the 'moving object'. Look at the angle at which you are looking at the rocks, now go to pic 2, see the angle that you are looking at the rocks around it. Now picture 3, see again the angle at which you are seeing the surrounding rocks. The moving obeject isnt moving at all, the rover taking the pictures is.

It certainly could be a difference in perspective as the rover...roves. There are a lot of other rocks that change between pics 1 and 3 as well.

sexi_co

08-07-2009, 12:05 AM

I heard that a group of Alpha Draconians have a base there. An underground one.

Just thought i'd repost the video as that link didnt work. Ive not seen it yet, think i might watch it now.

:)

1/7-Artificial Structures-Vegetation-& True colors on Mars - YouTube

gripit

08-07-2009, 04:20 AM

I would like to add this brilliant post by mikesingh, thx for the excellent info!

Here are a few of the strangest images taken by various probes that show intriguing objects on the Moon and Mars that are as mysterious as they come. There has been much discussion on a few of these images but there have been no firm conclusions as to what these objects really are or how they could possibly have been produced by natural geological processes. Or even how the strange ‘shadows’ have been produced.

Some of these images are new as I’ve just spotted them, mostly in Dr Robinson’s album of images taken by the Lunar Orbiter. Space Imaging expert, Keith Laney, who worked for NASA/AMES for the 2003 Mars Exploration Rovers mission, has himself mentioned that these LO images are uncensored and has also found scores of other anomalies that are ‘devastating’! And this coming from an expert in the field.

Most debunkers and skeptics go to great lengths explaining these away as camera glitches, or are just rocks and their shadows. But look closely. Invoking Occam’s razor, there could be much simpler explanations - like alien artifacts?

If these cannot be explained as natural occurrences, is there a possibility that what we’re looking at are alien artifacts or man made structures, implying that there could be or was a base of sorts on the Moon/Mars? Far fetched on the face of it. But do we know EVERYTHING that’s going on around us or out there? Making an attempt or even trying to provide out-of-the-box explanations is blasphemy, as it does not conform to our scientific paradigms!

Having said that, lets get started!

The Artifacts On Mars

Equally Spaced Objects

Here’s an image of Mars taken from the Opportunity camera in Jan 07.

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/c5b3750d836b9ac040682b7f61a4f0cd.gif
Opportunity Sol 1070
Courtesy: NASA/JPL

There are six objects you can clearly see that I’ve marked in red squares. They are all equi-distant! Can this be possible in nature? Are they just stones lying around, or are these artificial constructs? (There are more objects in a straight line in the original Opportunity image which I have cropped).

Here are three strange objects exactly 800 feet apart on Terra Meridiani!! Natural stone formation? You be the judge!

http://www.marsunearthed.com/SelectedImages/TerraMeridianiObjects/Sentinel1.gif
MOC narrow-angle image M00-01661
Courtesy: Marsunearthed

Another interesting image is the crater with a golf ball like structure inside. This one defies the usual explanations….

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/5cf8b19a1e388e5f5a5dd17e1a132218.gif

And here’s the Amundson Scott South Polar Station on the left. Notice the resemblance with the Mars ‘Golf Ball’ structure on the right?

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/b7477199fda6b3521187ada33f677b87.gif

Here's what look like ‘tracks’ on Mars. The image (below) is the Mojave crater in the Xanthe Terra region. Notice the almost perfect arc of a circle formed by one of the objects!

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/97076f702e213d99181cb1aa8e3848e7.jpg
Highlighted portion of HiRISE Image PSP_001415_1875

Note that these semicircular ‘tracks’ are going up-hill. The tracks seen going across are on the top of a ridge which is more or less flat. Not enough incline to make a stone roll across loose soil! These images were shown to a source at NASA who said that these may be rolling boulders but he wasn’t too sure, but nonetheless were pretty intriguing!

The two images below are what I found whilst studying the Lunar Orbiter images from Prof Robinson’s collections. Note that these ‘tracks’ were photographed in 1967 BEFORE any probe landed on the Moon! So these cannot be explained away as tracks made by a Lunar Rover.

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/0dcf2612039fc6cea7fd5e2ac3fbc1a8.jpg

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/442dabfbd121eb7c374f47b5d8317e45.jpg

Moon Towers?

Here are two photographs from the Lunar Orbiter which I found after hours of scanning Prof Robinson's album of LO images, showing what look like towers:

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/abc1ce874b17079625d487ab3f857c0d.jpg

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/7c3f701271d325e03f9192075c95bb94.jpg

Moon City?

Shown below, colorized, is one of the images containing weird land forms that look like they have been designed as such. Natural geological formations having such geometric shapes are difficult to imagine. But then again, we aren’t sure as to what natural processes could have produced these on the Moon.

http://www.ixdrive.co.uk/img/dec5cf39a2a23ad337c23379bb93c589.jpg

So can all these be explained away as just rocks and shadows? Or geological formations or processes on Mars and the Moon - of which we haven’t the faintest clue? Or could they be vestiges of an ancient ET civilization? I leave it to you to decide!

Cheers!

http://areo.info/mer/opportunity/1070/tn/1P223169161EFF78VAP2629L5M1_L4L5L5L5L6.jpg.html

http://barsoom.msss.com/moc_gallery/ab1_m04/images/M0001661.html

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/ab1_m04/jpegmaps/AB108505.jpg

http://thestargates.com/image/candor1.png

mikesingh

08-07-2009, 10:13 AM

Sol 676 - Black Box ?

Ok, here's something that may interest you - what looks like an ammo box with something that resembles a carbine with a hand grip and a magazine slot.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsmachine1psd.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsgunpsd.gif

And here are two 'skulls' lying around. Looks like two different races! Check out the position of the 'ears' on the 'skull' in the first image.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls6.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls10.gif

Signs of an ancient war between different races on Mars or just strange rocks? :rolleyes:

Cheers! :D

chattanova

08-07-2009, 02:48 PM

mikesingh your stuff is so mindblowing I have no words :eek:

The machine gun artifact, I cant see how it can be anything else actually, and the first skull wtf never seen that before.

**Since you have not been a member here until now, I have posted some of your posts over the years in replicas here on this board, with a link of course. (to help you spread the stuff;)) it's way to good to just be available for the ATS'rs.

gripit

08-07-2009, 02:55 PM

The machine gun artifact, I cant see how it can be anything else actually, and the first skull wtf never seen that before.

Machine guns, skulls...can't anyone in our solar system play nice?! :confused: :)

venividivici2311

08-07-2009, 03:10 PM

Machine guns, skulls...can't anyone in our solar system play nice?! :confused: :)

Machine guns.....no super laser rifles??? :( ;)

sexi_co

08-07-2009, 11:52 PM

And here are two 'skulls' lying around. Looks like two different races! Check out the position of the 'ears' on the 'skull' in the first image.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls6.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls10.gif

Signs of an ancient war between different races on Mars or just strange rocks? :rolleyes:

Cheers! :D

I think the 1st skull is more than likely a rock. My reason for saying that, is that the surrounding rocks are kind of similar in appearance, although they are more buried. They all appear quite 'holey'. Sorry couldnt think of a better way of putting it. lol
Im not saying they are holes, they look like shadows, but either way, you get the point.

As for the 2nd skull, i was looking at a picture that i Chat posted. (see below) The surrounding rocks are completely different to the skull shape.
In my opinion, it looks out of place and i feel it is a skull.

See what you think.

http://img39.picoodle.com/img/img39/9/10/2/f_1102skullcom_428943b.jpg

:):p;)

malkor

09-07-2009, 12:58 AM

Ok, here's something that may interest you - what looks like an ammo box with something that resembles a carbine with a hand grip and a magazine slot.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsmachine1psd.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsgunpsd.gif

Interesting anomalies. The second one however would make an awful weapon design. It more closely resembles the remains of a metallic angle bracket encased in concrete or other stony-material. Can you source the original images?

And here are two 'skulls' lying around. Looks like two different races! Check out the position of the 'ears' on the 'skull' in the first image.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls6.gif

Inconclusive. It's too out of focus and could just as well be a rock.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls10.gif

Signs of an ancient war between different races on Mars or just strange rocks? :rolleyes:

Cheers! :D

The second one resembles a skull of a human mated with predator. Or it could be a human skull resting on a pile of rocks. Really strange looking object.

These are either really strange objects on Mars or completely normal objects on Earth. Where exactly are the Mars rovers?

mikesingh

09-07-2009, 09:52 AM

mikesingh your stuff is so mindblowing I have no words :eek:

**Since you have not been a member here until now, I have posted some of your posts over the years in replicas here on this board, with a link of course. (to help you spread the stuff;)) it's way to good to just be available for the ATS'rs.

Hi chattanova! Thanks! You're welcome. Spread the stuff around - The truth is out there!!

Cheers! :D

hagbard_celine

09-07-2009, 10:16 AM

I wonder why there is so much evil, especially in such reptilian beings....if they exist? I wonder what caused evil to exist in this dimension to begin with? :( Sinking deeper into the illusion? Fear?

William Blake - Auguries of Innocence

To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.

I've heard the first stanza of this poem, but never the whole thing. Thanks, Lis':):cool:

hagbard_celine

09-07-2009, 10:17 AM

Interesting anomalies. The second one however would make an awful weapon design. It more closely resembles the remains of a metallic angle bracket encased in concrete or other stony-material. Can you source the original images?

Inconclusive. It's too out of focus and could just as well be a rock.

The second one resembles a skull of a human mated with predator. Or it could be a human skull resting on a pile of rocks. Really strange looking object.

These are either really strange objects on Mars or completely normal objects on Earth. Where exactly are the Mars rovers?

The lower pic reminds my of Lloyd Pye's "Starchild Skull".:cool::confused:

mikesingh

09-07-2009, 11:27 AM

Interesting anomalies. Can you source the original images?

Yep! But have a peek at some more interesting stuff before that! Do you still feel it's a stone?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls1.gif

Comparison...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls8.gif
Comparison with skeletons on Earth. The first is the Mars pic, above.
The other three are the comparisons.

Here's the original for the first 'skull'...

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/016/2P127793693EFF0327P2371L7M1.JPG

Cheers! :D

Thanks to Joseph Skipper for allowing me to reproduce the Earth/Mars skeleton comparison.

philidor

09-07-2009, 12:36 PM

branjo

09-07-2009, 07:10 PM

Would hitting your Prt Scr button and opening Paint and pasting it in there not work?

malkor

10-07-2009, 04:54 AM

Yep! But have a peek at some more interesting stuff before that! Do you still feel it's a stone?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls1.gif

Comparison...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o83/mikesingh_bucket/marsskulls8.gif
Comparison with skeletons on Earth. The first is the Mars pic, above.
The other three are the comparisons.

Here's the original for the first 'skull'...

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/016/2P127793693EFF0327P2371L7M1.JPG

Cheers! :D

Thanks to Joseph Skipper for allowing me to reproduce the Earth/Mars skeleton comparison.

Thanks for the source. Though it does look very compelling as a fossil, it is no unique to the environment. I can see many stones there with similar features. Either we are looking at a fossilized bone yard, or these are a type of stone eroded by a natural process.

I wonder what a professional paleontologist might say when shown this image.

branjo

10-07-2009, 05:31 AM

I wonder what a professional paleontologist might say when shown this image.

The run of the mill paleontologist would call us nut jobs and take 5 hours to re-explain opposable thumbs and how Darwin was a genius, and that they didn't spend $200,000 on a college education so they could think out of the box.

Now if you didn't tell them it was from Mars, that would be quite a cool experiment, I am sure their common sense would say "oh that's a yada yada bird from yada yada land"..lol. Then they would ask where was this picture taken? then you could say "oh not far from here, only about 34 million miles away". :D

I think the evidence from Mars is mounting up to something very credible indeed. The days of the slanderous "ooooh little green men from Mars" statement is about at the end of its life span.

Time to boldly go where someone else was long before us.

mind1universe

10-07-2009, 07:10 PM

sexi_co

10-07-2009, 11:31 PM

This is the reality here

Ifs blue in our faces, but why do we choose not to believe it.

We see ancient rivers, ancients monuments, ancient buildings, ancient fossils.

We know there is water, ice, athmosphere on Mars. We know Mars was warmer and wetter one time.

Why wont NASA just stop the fucking bullshit. Enough is enough now.

If it looks like a banana, smells like a banana and tastes like a banana, you could probably safely say, its a banana right?

Having seen the buried cities, human like faces, glass tunnels and strange plants, to name but a few things, i have become convinced that Mars clearly has (at the very least) been populated at one point. I would guess that those that lived there, were into the same stuff as the ancient Egyptians, given that there's a load of the same style of artifacts up there, including 3 pyramids in the same alighnment as Orions belt!
Im my mind its not a case of if, more a case of when?

If there was nothing living up there, NASA could say there 'was' life, but is no more, and not have to worry about people pointing very large telescopes up there. If there 'is' still life up there, then they would have reason to hide the truth.

;)

sexi_co

10-07-2009, 11:35 PM

The second one resembles a skull of a human mated with predator.

The very 1st thing i thought when i saw that skull, was 'Predator'.
Maybe that is where those at the top got the idea from? In heinsight, i guess it was very reptilian in its behaviour and had excellent technology.

If ive learnt one thing in life, its that fact is a damn sight stranger than fiction!!

:)

bulltwister

11-07-2009, 12:57 AM

Sorry if it's been posted before....just ended up on this site...quite interesting

http://www.xenotechresearch.com/marsh.htm

mikesingh

11-07-2009, 07:38 AM

Here's more interesting stuff....

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_229/mars_snake.png

It appears in three images in the SPIRIT ROVER collection Sol 29 Panorama Camera one of which is linked below:

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/229/2P146694587EFF8600P2402L7M1.HTML

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_229/Critter_Cube_03.png

More explanations on my web page here...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Other_02.html

Cheers! :D

biblegirl

11-07-2009, 08:06 AM

lol what is that?!

mikesingh

11-07-2009, 09:00 AM

lol what is that?!

That's nothing! Check this one out....

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Machine_Parts/Spanner01.gif

Who's thrown the wrench in the works?? Lol!

Cheers! :D

(Link is in my post above)