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zen_fox
25-08-2008, 11:48 PM
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our sins
as we forgive those who sin against us.
Save us from the time of trial
and deliver us from evil.
[For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours
now and for ever. Amen.]
zero1
26-08-2008, 01:23 AM
Uh-huh. What is the desired effect of this magic?
zen_fox
26-08-2008, 02:20 AM
I didn't write it but the words aren't the important thing.
notthisshitagain
26-08-2008, 04:29 AM
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn109/crazyassferret/cebollita_animated_onion-13.gif
zen_fox
26-08-2008, 05:08 AM
oh that's cute. :)
notthisshitagain
26-08-2008, 05:25 AM
oh that's cute. :)
=P Thank you (I think XP)
Hmm.. so.. if the words are not important, then what is? the feeling behind the words? the idea? visualization?
lordzoma
26-08-2008, 05:50 AM
It would be the harmonic vibration.
After all, SOUND = FORM.
This can be proven as different frequencies of sound can cause matter to take to a certain form.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31_jlkKd9YQ
**How the heck do you post a video on this forum?**
notthisshitagain
26-08-2008, 06:00 AM
It would be the harmonic vibration.
After all, SOUND = FORM.
This can be proven as different frequencies of sound can cause matter to take to a certain form.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31_jlkKd9YQ
**How the heck do you post a video on this forum?**
You use the tags [media] ;) to post a video.. oh, and this is interesting.. I've never really used vibration.. just visualization.
jayelowell
26-08-2008, 06:06 AM
From the society for scientific exploration
color is vibration, vibration is sound
sound resonates through the mouth check it out
What I say vibrates no less than 9 ways
South, South East, West, south west, east
North, North east, North west
And the black and white images fade
to grey sound waves
lordzoma
26-08-2008, 06:15 AM
If you've never tried sound vibration then you may love these.
They are Solfeggio frequencies.
UT - 396 Hz -associated with releasing emotional patterns after: see RE-417Hz below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppeN8gmk-JU
RE - 417 Hz -associated with breaking up crystallized emotional patterns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22lbvdizaFU
MI - 528 Hz - relates to crown chakra; Dr. Puleo suggests an association with "DNA integrity" Transformation and Miracles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2CvZ6MzMX0
FA - 639 Hz - associated with whole brain quadrant interconnectedness. Connecting Relationships
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLrty_80H1E
SOL - 741 Hz - associated with intuitive states, non linear knowing. Awakening Intuition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHM8-mT6CBo
LA - 852 Hz - associated with a pure love frequency: unconditional love and returning to Spiritual Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppeN8gmk-JUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeMn69Alu8k
There are a bunch of variants for each frequency on youtube. Check them out.
EDIT: I kind of feel like the Solfeggio frequencies merit their own thread, so I'm going to post a thread about them somewhere.
Double Edit: I found this site that is directly related to both the Solfeggio scales AND the bible, connecting it with how the thread started. Synchronicity!
http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter11.html
Quote from it:
The Book of Numbers
Many believe that the author of the books Genesis, Exodus and the Book of Numbers is actually Moses. The Book of Numbers deals about the forty-year time span after the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. There are an awful lot of numbers mentioned in the Book of Numbers, hence its name. The numbers seem to have relevance.
According to physician and America’s leading herbalist Dr. Joseph S. Puleo, he was inspired during some mystical experiences to study the Book of Numbers for healing frequencies. As strange as this may sound, eventually he did find 6 sound frequencies in the Book of Numbers chapter 7, verses 12-89!
The frequencies found are 396 Hz, 417 Hz, 528 Hz, 639 Hz, 741 Hz, and 852 Hz. These frequencies are the frequencies of the old Solfeggio scale. It was used in Gregorian and Sanskrit chants. The syllables used to denote the tones of this scale are:
Ut-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol-La, they are taken from the medieval song Ut Quent Laxis, a Gregorian chant written for John the Baptist.
Ut queant laxis
Resonare fibris
Mira gestorum
Famuli tuorum
Solve polluti
Labii reatum
Sancte Iohannes
Translation: In order that the slaves might resonate (resound) the miracles (wonders) of your creations with loosened (expanded) vocal chords. Wash the guilt from (our) polluted lips Saint John.
The text in Ut Quent Laxis seems to suggest that these notes open up a channel of communication with the Divine.
In a vision Dr. Joseph S. Puleo was shown to use the number reduction methodology of Pythagoras on the numbers in the text. It is a very simple reduction method turning big numbers into a single digit. The values of all digits in the number are added up. When after the first addition the number still contains more than one digit, the process is repeated. Here’s an example:
456 reduces to 4+5+6 = 15, that next reduces to 1 + 5 = 6. So the number 456 reduces eventually to the single digit 6.
Jopeph Puleo found repetitions of a single issue or subject in the Book of Numbers that was brought up. The first thing he found was that of the frequent mentioning of the number of the day, the first day, the second day, the third day etc. The first day was referenced in verse 12, the second day was mentioned in verse 18 and the third day in verse 24. The last reference to a day was found in verse 78. All day references were found in verses starting at verse 12 with an increment of 6.
The Pythagorean reduction of these verse numbers is:
12 = 1 + 2 = 3
18 = 1 + 8 = 9
24 = 2 + 4 = 6
30 = 3 + 0 = 3
36 = 3 + 6 = 9
42 = 4 + 2 = 6
Do you see the repetition now of 396, 396 etc this keeps going on until verse 78 is reached! This is how the first frequency corresponding to the Ut tone was found.
The other frequencies were found using other repetitive issues found in the text. Surprisingly all frequencies that were found this way, matched up with the frequencies of the Solfeggio scale.
The Solfeggio scale after a while was forbidden by the church and changed into our current popular Tempered scale. Ut was changed into Do and its frequency changed, also the seventh Ti note was added. However, the total harmony of the original scale was gone.
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It is now believed that the frequencies found by Puleo have healing properties. The frequency of 528 Hz supposedly has healing effects on DNA. The frequency seems to influence the water molecules that surround the DNA helix.
Glen Rein of the Quantum Biology Research Lab in New York has performed experiments with in vitro DNA that was exposed to different recordings of musical styles. He used a technique to convert the music into audio scalar waves. He used two phase opposite sound sources from the same music to self-cancel the waves and create scalar audio waves. In the experiment a CD player, an amplifier and a spiral like self-cancelling coil were used. Four styles of music were played to test tubes containing in vitro DNA. The absorption of UV light of the DNA test tube samples was measured after an hour.
Gregorian chants had caused a 5 to 9.1 % increase in the absorption of UV light due to the unwinding of the DNA helix. Sanskrit chanting caused a similar 5.8% to 8.2% effect. Rock (0-1%) and classical music (0-1.1%) had little or no effect. Glen Rein finally concluded that the audible sound waves of the Solfeggio scale can cause resonance in DNA and can have healing effects.
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The question is who put these frequencies into the Book of Numbers? If Moses was the author of this book, he may have gotten this knowledge from the Egyptians. It remains a mystery, but the fact is that musical frequencies are mentioned in the Book of Numbers that have scientifically measurable effects on DNA. It has been suggested that these frequencies have DNA healing properties.
notthisshitagain
26-08-2008, 06:41 AM
Jayelowell, where is that stuff from? I like it.
Whoa! Excelent info you got there, lordzoma! Thanks, will definitely give it a try ;)
lordzoma
26-08-2008, 06:54 AM
There are other ones for each frequency. There's this 963 for example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcgMwAXt8U
And this one is my favorite. I feel it all through my spine and my body, and the top of my head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF4SFNDBAVE
I just listened to them all again and it reminded me why I think they're so wonderful.
You can get Solfeggio tuning forks, and they are pretty cool too.
jayelowell
26-08-2008, 07:06 AM
Jayelowell, where is that stuff from? I like it.
Master Thesis -Canibus
zen_fox
26-08-2008, 08:14 AM
What's the difference between Harry Potter shouting, "Sectum Sempra," and the Lord's Prayer?
I wouldn't limit it to just the sound. From quantum psychics we can understand that everything is in a state of vibration. That as humans we can alter our level of vibration through thought. This vibration effects everything around us, our reality. Thoughts give rise to emotion, emotion arise to changes in the body and change of our vibrational state.
Now imagine if you could somehow manage to get trillions of people through out all of time to utter a similar vibration with the INTENT of stimulating the same emotional response in each of them. The words themselves change from language to language, translation to translation but the intent and the response in consciousness remains the same.
There are over 2 billion Christians on the planet who regularly recite this powerful magic incantation. Their intent alters the vibration of the entire planet and beyond.
The words are unimportant or nearly so because without the intent and the emotion the spell is useless. Words are just vessels for intention. It is vibration but an inward vibration that's important. As within so without.
zen_fox
26-08-2008, 08:23 AM
Yes, I believe there is powerful magic hidden throughout nearly all religious texts. The Bible definitely has some as does the Tao Te Ching.
Many solutions to problems make no sense at all yet are often the only possible conclusion. The law of resistance seems implausible in a real world setting yet is an extremely powerful tool one can use. That which is resisted persists. The premise of this is found in the Tao The Ching and other holy books. Surrender and overcome. Bend and be straight. It's also throughout physics and many other things.
lordzoma
26-08-2008, 09:36 AM
The only problem with what you were saying fox, is that in three dimensional reality, sound is way more powerful than thought.
Sound can alter physical reality and create matter.
The only way to do that with thought is higher in dimension, namely the fourth dimension / the astral, and higher up.
Here in the physical universe sound trumps thought.
And I think the best way to put it to the test would be to compare water crystal formations created by pure harmonic frequencies vs focused thought patterns. I bet you sound would win every time.
zen_fox
26-08-2008, 08:28 PM
I understand what you're saying and it's very valid. I don't really believe that the thought itself has much power. The thought is only the instigator. The body cannot tell the difference between something which is thought and something which is experienced. Both thoughts and experience invoke the same bodily response. If someone thinks about a person telling them they love them, they'll experience some of the same effects as if the person had told them. Everything is in a state of vibration, including the body and consciousness (the spirit) in a person. Thoughts generate feelings which change the vibration of the body.
delamo1999
26-08-2008, 11:14 PM
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our sins
as we forgive those who sin against us.
Save us from the time of trial
and deliver us from evil.
[For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours
now and for ever. Amen.]
I was forced to chant this christian prayer each sunday in church while growing up and I never noticed anything materialize as a result of chanting it.
I am not here to argue this, just share my experience.
:)
delamo1999
27-08-2008, 12:23 AM
There are other ones for each frequency. There's this 963 for example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcgMwAXt8U
And this one is my favorite. I feel it all through my spine and my body, and the top of my head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF4SFNDBAVE
I just listened to them all again and it reminded me why I think they're so wonderful.
You can get Solfeggio tuning forks, and they are pretty cool too.
I have used all of these videos in my meditations. I really like the 963Hz. I have found them to be very helpful. I really liked the ones by Sedona1111.
:)
zero1
27-08-2008, 01:30 AM
Zeus loves the "Our Father" - :p He thinks it's Magic.
rhydra
13-09-2008, 02:47 AM
There may be magic hidden in Christianity but I can say that if there was the people who practise it would never be allowed access to it, the the original Mithraic roots of the religion. What is in there will be hidden and cosseted because let's face it, Christianity is a completely different religion to the people who practise it compared to the people who actually use it.
bendoon
13-09-2008, 03:26 AM
The Lords prayer was not meant to be chanted, just an example of how to pray (talk to God)
fromthatshow
13-09-2008, 04:13 AM
If you've never tried sound vibration then you may love these.
They are Solfeggio frequencies.
UT - 396 Hz -associated with releasing emotional patterns after: see RE-417Hz below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppeN8gmk-JU
RE - 417 Hz -associated with breaking up crystallized emotional patterns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22lbvdizaFU
MI - 528 Hz - relates to crown chakra; Dr. Puleo suggests an association with "DNA integrity" Transformation and Miracles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2CvZ6MzMX0
FA - 639 Hz - associated with whole brain quadrant interconnectedness. Connecting Relationships
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLrty_80H1E
SOL - 741 Hz - associated with intuitive states, non linear knowing. Awakening Intuition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHM8-mT6CBo
LA - 852 Hz - associated with a pure love frequency: unconditional love and returning to Spiritual Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppeN8gmk-JUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeMn69Alu8k
There are a bunch of variants for each frequency on youtube. Check them out.
Thank you for posting these! :D
nimlyn
13-09-2008, 06:15 AM
There may be magic hidden in Christianity but I can say that if there was the people who practise it would never be allowed access to it, the the original Mithraic roots of the religion. What is in there will be hidden and cosseted because let's face it, Christianity is a completely different religion to the people who practise it compared to the people who actually use it.
Yep! I’ve just found out that many words in the Psalm 23…”The Lords My Shepherd” is very different from what I once thought…Yeah though I walk through the valley of death, I fear no ill at ease. For between my thighs my Harley I ride…And so forth…However it’s actually the following:-
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjc8mtVDUoU&feature=related
;):D
phildee3
13-09-2008, 09:20 AM
The man who gave us the "Lord's prayer" also said to pray silently, and in private!
phildee3
13-09-2008, 09:44 AM
I was forced to chant this christian prayer each sunday in church while growing up and I never noticed anything materialize as a result of chanting it.
That's because of how and where they use it - immediately after the consecration of the elements.
This is abominable!
The confeteor, and prayers of petition, are properly said earlier in the rite.
To recite the "Lord's prayer" to the newly consecrated elements actually has the effect of negating the consecration because, at that point, all of our prayers have been answered!
What is more appropriate is something like:
Thee we adore
O, hidden splendor thee,
who in thy sacrament does deign to be.
We worship thee
beneath this earthly veil,
and here thy presence we devoutly hail.
Try it!
It is sometimes sung to the tune of "Abide With Me."
lordzoma
13-09-2008, 03:02 PM
Thank you for posting these! :D
You're welcome.
It's funny. I was just dreaming about Solfeggio frequencies last night. I can't remember in what context though. I think I was telling my grandmother or my uncle who's passed on about them.
astrochicken
13-09-2008, 08:12 PM
This thread answers a lof of questions i've had without actually knowing that i had questions before but rather just hunches.
I love this thread!!
thanks
I have used all of these videos in my meditations. I really like the 963Hz. I have found them to be very helpful. I really liked the ones by Sedona1111.
:)
This is the 1st time I've ever used these, the first one i.e. Sedona 963 (I hope that's right, it's the one that's on top) I could feel my third eye 'buzzing'.
The one underneath, felt more cleansing tone, and I could visualize a light matrix around my body.
That's my research and experience from my P.O.V.
Interesting stuff.
tracker
14-09-2008, 07:22 PM
what do prays do to our minds ?
let me show you the universal mirror and what it shows you are really practicing upon your self when you pray .
the pray------------------------------------------the mirror.
our faher who is in heaven --------------------i am a slave in a shit hole
halowd be your name--------------------------i am nothing
thy kingdom come-----------------------------my kingdon is irelevent
thy will be done-------------------------------i ask no questions
on earth as it is in heaven---------------------in bodey and mind
give us today our bread-----------------------give me not quite enough to survuve on and die slowly
and forgive my trespasing----------------------i do wrong all the time
as we forgive those who do against us----------hurt me big time
lead me not into temptation--------------------make me want nothing for -------------------------------------------------me
and deliver me from evil-------------------------lead me away from knowledge
for yours is the kingdom------------------------we hand over our earth
the power and the glory------------------------no questions asked
for ever and ever-------------------------------for all time
amen------------------------------------------so be it .
:eek:
reap the truth about what prays actually say upon and within themself .:cool:
then you wonder why meek and needy people have a god that loves the meek and needy and why they always stay meek and needy .
nectars
18-01-2009, 10:29 PM
what do prays do to our minds ?
let me show you the universal mirror and what it shows you are really practicing upon your self when you pray .
the pray------------------------------------------the mirror.
our faher who is in heaven --------------------i am a slave in a shit hole
halowd be your name--------------------------i am nothing
thy kingdom come-----------------------------my kingdon is irelevent
thy will be done-------------------------------i ask no questions
on earth as it is in heaven---------------------in bodey and mind
give us today our bread-----------------------give me not quite enough to survuve on and die slowly
and forgive my trespasing----------------------i do wrong all the time
as we forgive those who do against us----------hurt me big time
lead me not into temptation--------------------make me want nothing for -------------------------------------------------me
and deliver me from evil-------------------------lead me away from knowledge
for yours is the kingdom------------------------we hand over our earth
the power and the glory------------------------no questions asked
for ever and ever-------------------------------for all time
amen------------------------------------------so be it .
:eek:
reap the truth about what prays actually say upon and within themself .:cool:
then you wonder why meek and needy people have a god that loves the meek and needy and why they always stay meek and needy .
I'm not christian although I have done time with the Lords prayer and others, and I have to say that post is nonsense. Its your interpretation of it only. Everyones "mirror" is different.
If you want to see your own interpretaion of it just write down whatever comes up for you as you read it. Keep an open space and your truth regarding it will present itself. Regarding yours Tracker, you got some sh*t to clean out Brother.
Note: Just thought I'd also point out that the minds(subconscious/unconscious -whatever you prefer) programming can easily be bypassed when stating Rituals/Invocations/Prayer etc.