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I need a pic of Jabulon for reference for a piece I'm doing. Can anyone help?
That three headed crab is hard to come by.
3'LL
Sorry, found it. I was wrong, it was a three headed spider, a cat, a king, and, a Frog.
nihil
22-08-2009, 07:05 AM
Bad Imagery IMHO
dawnismygoddess
22-08-2009, 07:29 AM
Oh god, don't we already have a thread for this?
Umm this thread is over two years old and has been bumped for some obscure reason.
nihil
26-08-2009, 12:21 PM
yes, maybe the freekmasons are trying to promote
jabulon as a brand-new idol after the complete
debunking of the original jahbulon in another thread .
keystone
26-08-2009, 01:48 PM
i_am wrote:
Umm this thread is over two years old and has been bumped for some obscure reason.
you replied:
yes, maybe the freekmasons are trying to promote jabulon as a brand-new idol after the complete debunking of the original jahbulon in another thread .
It was YOU who bumped it. I'm starting to come to the conclusion that your only purpose here is just to troll the forum and spam ancient threads. Please show me I'm wrong.
Cheers
nihil
26-08-2009, 01:54 PM
After the (temporary?) departure of grandsec. your posts are a bit boring_
keystone
27-08-2009, 12:39 AM
After the (temporary?) departure of grandsec. your posts are a bit boring_So my posts are not at all boring when he's here? :D Perhaps thats because he provides posts worth responding to?
Yes its temporary. Normally you get out on the "naughty step" for 10 days. But this is twice he's got himself in this position in a very short time. TPTB can give him an extended cooling off period if they so wish. See FAQ.
Cheers
marpat
27-08-2009, 01:03 AM
I need a pic of Jabulon for reference for a piece I'm doing. Can anyone help?
That three headed crab is hard to come by.
3'LL
There is not such a pic. The one that people keep posting is of a spirit called bael from the lesser key of solomon. jahbulon is more of a description than a name
Here is a link to the image that some people falsely ascribe to jahbulon:
http://voxx.org/2007/03/24/bael-goetia-spirit-of-the-week/
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 01:53 AM
There is not such a pic. The one that people keep posting is of a spirit called bael from the lesser key of solomon. jahbulon is more of a description than a name
Here is a link to the image that some people falsely ascribe to jahbulon:
http://voxx.org/2007/03/24/bael-goetia-spirit-of-the-week/
BS,
Put it this way I cannot find picture of marpat:rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJea7LkMeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEBsDLcbd9Q
I wonder where spirit of the month is.:rolleyes:
marpat
27-08-2009, 02:40 PM
Well if you actually looked at my post I included a link describing what that pic is.
What is it with you? you go on about buddhism and the truth but when people tell you a fact you get all hysterical and rude. The fact is that the pic is of the spirit bael. Check the goetia for more info
All you are doing is posting somebody elses falsehoods and errors. Check it out for yourself rather than trusting them. Isnt that what Buddha taught?
nihil
27-08-2009, 03:06 PM
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http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3008/jahbulonroyalarch.gif
The Triangle is the Greek Letter "Delta"
Delta-Jah-Bul-On
Djahbulon
Diabalon
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2095/3602e360.jpg
marpat
27-08-2009, 03:26 PM
That is still not a pictue of jahbulon. They are pictures that relate to jahbulon but nothing more
What book did you get that from as it seems a bit misleading, especially when it changes the hindu spelling of Aum to Aun and then On and Om. It seems like trying to get a square peg in a round hole.
thelonious
27-08-2009, 04:17 PM
What book did you get that from as it seems a bit misleading, especially when it changes the hindu spelling of Aum to Aun and then On and Om. It seems like trying to get a square peg in a round hole.
I think that's Duncan's Ritual. If so, while much of it is generally accurate, it does contain some pretty glaring errors too, that being just one a few of them.
marpat
27-08-2009, 04:19 PM
I think that's Duncan's Ritual. If so, while much of it is generally accurate, it does contain some pretty glaring errors too, that being just one a few of them.
Thats handy then, a book with errors in it that most forum users would not recognise then try and pass it off as factual :D. A bit like the Biggest Secret really.
nihil
27-08-2009, 04:42 PM
The author of the Duncan ritual did that error .
The Triangle is the Greek Letter "Delta"
Delta-Jah-Bul-On
Djahbulon
Diabalon
The Devil
FACTUAL is your Deception .
thelonious
27-08-2009, 05:46 PM
The author of the Duncan ritual did that error .
[CENTER]
The Triangle is the Greek Letter "Delta"
Delta-Jah-Bul-On
Djahbulon
Diabalon
The Devil
How would "the devil" represent "Jehovah"?
I ask this just out of morbid curiousity. I don't believe that God's name is "Jehovah" any more than I believe it is "Jahbulon". If God is the creative force manifested in the universe, it's beyond any name.
marpat
27-08-2009, 06:11 PM
The author of the Duncan ritual did that error .
The Triangle is the Greek Letter "Delta"
Delta-Jah-Bul-On
Djahbulon
Diabalon
The Devil
FACTUAL is your Deception .
are you just making this up? it certainly seems you are just using manipulation to get the result you want. Actually what I should say is that somebody else thought of that and you just believe it because you know no better.
You make no sense at all, but I am hardly shocked by that.
marpat
27-08-2009, 06:16 PM
So wth regard to the OP has anybody got a pic of Jahbulon? it certainly looks like people are failing to turn one up and there does seem to be a few people who are completely confused between jahbulon and bael.
nihil
27-08-2009, 08:23 PM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8240/tc2jahbulon1.jpg
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. The Emissaries of Jahbulon (http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=7652891847477492406)
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lightgiver
27-08-2009, 08:37 PM
Well if you actually looked at my post I included a link describing what that pic is.
What is it with you? you go on about buddhism and the truth but when people tell you a fact you get all hysterical and rude. The fact is that the pic is of the spirit bael. Check the goetia for more info
All you are doing is posting somebody elses falsehoods and errors. Check it out for yourself rather than trusting them. Isnt that what Buddha taught?
Repeating your self again.
are you feeling OK
How is your military career going speaking of falsehoods:rolleyes:
Rude and hysterical :confused: sweet coming from you.
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Fucking hell, this place is so predictable.
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1 Of many thousands of marpats insults.
Hey marpat I draw the line at mass murder denials.
Nothing rude or hysterical about that.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
nihil
27-08-2009, 08:38 PM
double trouble .
marpat
27-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Wow, I am conviced that I made a post in this very thread which clearly shows that the above pic is Bael.
Nihil has failed to come up with the goods and resorts to a falsehood. The proof of this is in links I have posted within the thread. For anybody who is interested in truth the fact of the matter can be found by researching the Goetia, The Lesser Key of King Solomon, and by looking under the list of spirits under Bael.
Here is the link again for those too stupid or lazy to look back through the thread to find it:
http://voxx.org/2007/03/24/bael-goetia-spirit-of-the-week/
I dont see what the obsession with bael is. It is my belief that some anti-mason, bible thumper has realised that there is no image fo jahbulon and then thought that they need to demonise the masons by using an infernal looking spirit, which they then steal from the Goetia. It is a curious coincidence that it is the first spirit in the book, as if they were too lazy or frightened to venture further through its pages.
By all means if somebody can provide a genuine masonic source that shows a genuine image of jahbulon, which turns out to look like bael then please prove me wrong. I wont hld my breath though.
The OP asked people for an image of jahbulon to write an article and yet forum users have failed to do that and instead posted false information.
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Wow, I am conviced that I made a post in this very thread which clearly shows that the above pic is Bael.
Nihil has failed to come up with the goods and resorts to a falsehood. The proof of this is in links I have posted within the thread. For anybody who is interested in truth the fact of the matter can be found by researching the Goetia, The Lesser Key of King Solomon, and by looking under the list of spirits under Bael.
Here is the link again for those too stupid or lazy to look back through the thread to find it:
http://voxx.org/2007/03/24/bael-goetia-spirit-of-the-week/
I dont see what the obsession with bael is. It is my belief that some anti-mason, bible thumper has realised that there is no image fo jahbulon and then thought that they need to demonise the masons by using an infernal looking spirit, which they then steal from the Goetia. It is a curious coincidence that it is the first spirit in the book, as if they were too lazy or frightened to venture further through its pages.
By all means if somebody can provide a genuine masonic source that shows a genuine image of jahbulon, which turns out to look like bael then please prove me wrong. I wont hld my breath though.
The OP asked people for an image of jahbulon to write an article and yet forum users have failed to do that and instead posted false information.
Jahbulon that is the facts, you just keep repeating yourself,I suppose chemtrails are not real either.
you are the person who is never wrong.
marpat
27-08-2009, 08:49 PM
Jahbulon that is the facts, you just keep repeating yourself,I suppose chemtrails are not real either.
you are the person who is never wrong.
Well read the link I provided. You can try and prove that the source information is wrong if you feel you know better although I doubt you are up to the challenge. And before I forget, I reported you for spamming the thread
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 08:50 PM
Well read the link I provided. You can try and prove that the source information is wrong if you feel you know better although I doubt you are up to the challenge. And before I forget, I reported you for spamming the thread
You are trying to deny it because it is OTO,
Jahbulon or Jabulon is a word which was first used in some of the rituals of Royal Arch Masonry in the 1700s. In addition, according to Francis X. King, the word is used in rituals of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), a Thelemic Order created by the Freemason and Occultist Aleister Crowley in 1904.
spamming the thread, get out of here.
You are the biggest spanner on here,
marpat
27-08-2009, 08:53 PM
You are trying to deny it because it is OTO,
Jahbulon or Jabulon is a word which was first used in some of the rituals of Royal Arch Masonry in the 1700s. In addition, according to Francis X. King, the word is used in rituals of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), a Thelemic Order created by the Freemason and Occultist Aleister Crowley in 1904.
I have seen it in an OTO ritual when I was reading up on it recently but I also had access to the full lecture on what it is, and it is nothing negative. There is a lot more to it than the puerile crap people post in here. In fact the very book that describes it in full can be bought in the public domain, which is where I got mine.
The thread is about finding an image of jahbulon, which people have failed to do. Bael is not jahbulon as a bit of research will show, that is if you can actually open your eyes.
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 08:57 PM
My eye is well open,maybe its your eye that is half shut,
English Masonry retracts
In 1989 it was announced that JAHBULON would soon be dropped from England's Royal Arch Ritual. ‘Grand Scribe Ezra’ Higham denied this was in response to recent Christian condemnations. Journalists later visiting Freemason’s Hall overheard chortles that junking JAHBULON had invalidated the book “Inside the Brotherhood’ even before it was published. However on March 4th Clifford Longley (The Times religious affairs correspondent) wrote that by replacing JAHBULON with JHVH - meaning Jahweh, the Jew’s Holy Name for God -Masonry may be falling in ‘deeper waters than the Grand Lodge has yet realised.. While to invoke a false God is idolatry, to invoke the Name of the True God falsely is blasphemy’.
Now non masons assumed that, it JAHBULON was no longer in the ritual, Mason’s could at least utter this ‘sacred and mysterious name’ of God without having their heads cut off. Yet when England’s fraternal front man was challenged to say it on radio he refused saying “because I’ve promised not to.
marpat
27-08-2009, 08:59 PM
You are failing to come up with an image of jahbulon.
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 09:05 PM
You are failing to come up with an image of jahbulon.
You must have missed them with your half shut eye.
you will not succeed in your swaying of opinion,we know why you are here.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2286/314430pm.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/314430pm.jpg/)
I have plenty time.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8240/tc2jahbulon1.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/tc2jahbulon1.jpg/)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6451/abraxas.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/abraxas.jpg/)
Ha ha.
limelady
27-08-2009, 09:09 PM
This thread was started because a member here wished to find a picture of Jabulon. While we may not agree on who "Jabulon" is, please don't make this thread personal.
So are there any other pictures that may be Jabulon? Lets just allow the OP of this thread to decide for himself who or what is Jabulon.
Thankyou.
marpat
27-08-2009, 09:10 PM
You have failed. For somebody who claims to have plenty of time you have not bothered to read the link I provided neither research the goetia and try to disprove those sources of information. Like I said, you are not up to the challenge and all you can do is spam post graphics that mean nothing or explain nothing.
I guess I hit the nail on the head before when I said some people are too lazy and stupid to actually look at the links.
thelonious
27-08-2009, 09:11 PM
You must have missed them with your half shut eye.
You've missed the point. The pictures you guys keep posting are an artist's rendering of a supposed goetic spirit named Bael, not any "Jabulon".
marpat
27-08-2009, 09:12 PM
This thread was started because a member here wished to find a picture of Jabulon. While we may not agree on who "Jabulon" is, please don't make this thread personal.
So are there any other pictures that may be Jabulon? Lets just allow the OP of this thread to decide for himself who or what is Jabulon.
Thankyou.
The picture being shown by LG is a spirit called Bael from the goetia and I have provided a link to prove this. Pity he has a problem reading the links and having a genuine, unbiased debate on the matter.
marpat
27-08-2009, 09:13 PM
You've missed the point. The pictures you guys keep posting are an artist's rendering of a supposed goetic spirit named Bael, not any "Jabulon".
I think they must have missed that point about 20 times in this thread alone. That counts as blindness and ignorance in my opinion.
nihil
27-08-2009, 09:16 PM
Concerning the demon Bael, the Goetia states: "The First Principal Spirit is a King ruling in the East, called Bael. He maketh thee to go Invisible. He ruleth over 66 Legions of Infernal Spirits. He appeareth in divers shapes, sometimes like a Cat, sometimes like a Toad, and sometimes like a Man, and sometimes all these forms at once. He speaketh hoarsely."
(demon Bael in Collin de Plancy's Dictionnaire Infernal, 1863)
The Grand Grimoire refers to this demon that Johan Weyer commences his inventory in the famous Pseudonomarchia Daemonum. Weyer called this demon the first monarch of Hell, and head of all infernal powers, with his estates being in the Easter regions. He has three heads, a crap, a cat, and a human. He controls sixty-six legions that obey him. A.G.H.
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For eventual inquiries about the so-called Jahbulon Demon, just ask a Mason .
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 09:16 PM
Many pictures and information on jahbulon but 2 person just does not get it per usual like the 1 of the said person does not get chem trails.
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 09:18 PM
You've missed the point. The pictures you guys keep posting are an artist's rendering of a supposed goetic spirit named Bael, not any "Jabulon".
You think we should be lie ve you,
you give out death threats when it suits
marpat
27-08-2009, 09:19 PM
Many pictures and information on jahbulon but 2 person just does not get it per usual like the 1 of the said person does not get chem trails.
If a minority of 2 are correct then they are still correct. Idiots do tend to make up the masses anyway.
You are not interested in genuine debate on the matter, you just want to make it personal. I think you might be in love with me or something.
nihil
27-08-2009, 09:21 PM
GENUINE DEBATE ?? is that an oxymoron for sure...
marpat
27-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Concerning the demon Bael, the Goetia states: "The First Principal Spirit is a King ruling in the East, called Bael. He maketh thee to go Invisible. He ruleth over 66 Legions of Infernal Spirits. He appeareth in divers shapes, sometimes like a Cat, sometimes like a Toad, and sometimes like a Man, and sometimes all these forms at once. He speaketh hoarsely."
(demon Bael in Collin de Plancy's Dictionnaire Infernal, 1863)
The Grand Grimoire refers to this demon that Johan Weyer commences his inventory in the famous Pseudonomarchia Daemonum. Weyer called this demon the first monarch of Hell, and head of all infernal powers, with his estates being in the Easter regions. He has three heads, a crap, a cat, and a human. He controls sixty-six legions that obey him. A.G.H.
Well there it is. Cant see anything relating to jahbulon there. The fact is that jahbulon is addressed to the god of unity and love also proves that we are talking about two totally different things.
marpat
27-08-2009, 09:23 PM
GENUINE DEBATE ?? is that an oxymoron for sure...
Still failing to provide tha requested pic are you?
nihil
27-08-2009, 09:24 PM
...a stunning debate indeed .
My opinion is that the demon of this topic is just a name, used in some not so-well-known esoteric-masonic-satanic school, that fits well onto some kind of Tetragrammaton . That's it .
Pics are not so vital . You keep your Credos and I too . Stay well .
lightgiver
27-08-2009, 09:36 PM
If a minority of 2 are correct then they are still correct. Idiots do tend to make up the masses anyway.
You are not interested in genuine debate on the matter, you just want to make it personal. I think you might be in love with me or something.
ooo more name calling what surprise coming from military fake man
If it was not true you would not be here so vehemently denying it
the pic has been posted several times.
nihil
27-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Pike Quote:
Masonry conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it....
marpat
28-08-2009, 12:38 AM
...a stunning debate indeed .
My opinion is that the demon of this topic is just a name, used in some not so-well-known esoteric-masonic-satanic school, that fits well onto some kind of Tetragrammaton . That's it .
Pics are not so vital . You keep your Credos and I too . Stay well .
What you mean is that you have failed to produce the goods and in order to preserve your false beliefs you now just scuttle off claiming pics are not needed.
Jahbulon is nothing to do with demons, which you would realise if you researched outside of anti-mason topics.
marpat
28-08-2009, 12:44 AM
ooo more name calling what surprise coming from military fake man
If it was not true you would not be here so vehemently denying it
the pic has been posted several times.
This is getting a little tedious and I am not used to dealing with people who have an IQ under 80. You have been given the information and yet you still believe your falsehood. All that tells me is that you do not care for the truth but that you are more interested in lying about others, demonising masons with false information and turning a blind eye to accurate information set before you.
We have now established that you are willing to believe falsehoods but I wonder why? I guess you want to pin the blames of the world on the masons and this gives you an excuse to do that. How sad.
And you are a fake boddhisattva too, the kickboxing buddha :D
What am I denying? do you think that proving you are wrong is denying something, as if you hold the truth? that is weird, fucked up logic.
luciferhorus
28-08-2009, 07:41 AM
There are a number of interpretations, but I will stick with the Hewbrew and go on to a general Kabbalistic interpretation.
יהּ (Yah, I AM, which indicates eternal existence),
בּעל (bul, on high, in heaven) and
און (on, strength);
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
Thus to find an image of these terms would result in nothing more than an artistic metaphor.
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Secondly I have already posted essays here on the Kabbalistic Holy Trinity.
This of course has nothing whatsoever to the do with the Tri-theistic deity of Christianity.
The Singular hermaphrotic Creator, or Grand Designer, or Grand programmer of our hologram, divided her nature in male and female, throughout the animal and human world, and in the sub atomic world we also see positive and negative.
In Paternalistic religious cults like Christianity, the Creator is male, and thus we might suppose that all female animals, human beigns and negatively charged particles do not share "his" nature.
However the "Holy Trinity" is best visualised by two divine creations, the male and female in union. Two lovers kissing or making love.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/28/49973624_19a3ab667e.jpg
There is the closest representation of the divine image and of the union of the two halves of creation.
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Freemasonry.
I don't like the Freemasons. I am an anti-Capitalist and an Anarchist; they are an assortment of evangelical Capitalists, bankers / loan sharks / Ususryists, legalists, state terrorist collaborators and so forth.
But my contempt for them has nothing at all to do with any Kabbalistic teachings they have at the heart of their cult; rather that they misuse them and bring them into disrepute.
_________________
Capitalist anti-Masons.
The problem with many anti-Masons is that they too are anti-Communists and evangelical Capitalists; they just want a palace revolution where their brand of religion takes the place of the Masonic brand and for Capitalism and the immense human suffering which goes along with it to continue.
_____________________
As far as I am concerned I find no moral (the discernment of good and evil) difference between a Capitalist anti-Mason and a Capitalist Mason.
You are all persons of absolutely no moral worth whatsoever as far as I am concerned; chaff for the fires of the Final Holocaust as far as I am concerned.
________________________
Hell.
I know what Hell is; I have explored Hell. I am very much a BDSM (Bondage-Domination-Sado-Masochism) person.
I am not a pacifist or a hippy. Those days are long gone. Those who are committed to propagating the evil of Capitalism bear a karmic responsibility for all the suffering and impoverishment and enslavement of humanity.
I promise you all nothing but death and Hell, and by Hell I mean a fate worse than death in hands of someone like me who seeks only your total and absolute humiliation and punishment.
Beyond death; I will await you; I will have vengeance.
Many of you people think you are so self righteous attacking the Freemasons (who are admittedly unworthy of life), and yet you are no better than them.
Terrible and Dreadful and Wrathful shall be your judgement.
Long have I cried out to you warning.
Lucifer
No mercy
size_of_light
28-08-2009, 07:50 AM
I promise you all nothing but death and Hell, and by Hell I mean a fate worse than death in hands of someone like me who seeks only your total and absolute humiliation and punishment.
Beyond death; I will await you; I will have vengeance.
Many of you people think you are so self righteous attacking the Freemasons (who are admittedly unworthy of life), and yet you are no better than them.
Terrible and Dreadful and Wrathful shall be your judgement.
Long have I cried out to you warning.
Lucifer
No mercy
Jesus. :eek:
nihil
28-08-2009, 11:08 AM
I promise you all nothing but death and Hell, and by Hell I mean a fate worse than death in hands of someone like me who seeks only your total and absolute humiliation and punishment...
Beyond idiocy; Trolls will await you... waiting for 2 Copper Coins.
Many of the people think they got the absolute attacking truth, and yet their knowledge could be compared and related. But no...
The land of bashing . Terrible and Dreadful and Wrathful shall be their posts.
Long have they cried for psychological help...
Ignorance
No crap
azaziel01
28-08-2009, 12:55 PM
I promise you all nothing but death and Hell, and by Hell I mean a fate worse than death in hands of someone like me who seeks only your total and absolute humiliation and punishment.
Beyond death; I will await you; I will have vengeance.
Many of you people think you are so self righteous attacking the Freemasons (who are admittedly unworthy of life), and yet you are no better than them.
Terrible and Dreadful and Wrathful shall be your judgement.
Long have I cried out to you warning.
Lucifer
No mercy[/QUOTE]
Ah well Looks like I'm pretty frigged then!
I'm not a communist, I work for a living! and pay my taxes and I want to be a Freemason....ah well nothing like living dangerously! and obeying the lay eh.
thelonious
28-08-2009, 04:48 PM
Ah well Looks like I'm pretty frigged then!
I'm not a communist, I work for a living! and pay my taxes and I want to be a Freemason....ah well nothing like living dangerously! and obeying the lay eh.
IMHO communism sucks and capitalism sucks. They both enslave.
I consider myself sort of a democratic socialist. My political views are similar to those of Eugene V. Debs, Carl Sandberg, and Rev. Francis Bellamy, all of whom were members of the Socialist Party USA.
Bellamy, by the way, was also a Freemason, and authored the US Pledge of Allegiance.
rodin
29-08-2009, 12:21 AM
So wth regard to the OP has anybody got a pic of Jahbulon? it certainly looks like people are failing to turn one up and there does seem to be a few people who are completely confused between jahbulon and bael.
This comes close
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/mandelsonDM0309_468x451.jpg
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