Mind control masts????

[truthseeker1980]

This is a selcetion of photo's i took last year when i first started to notice these new type of supposed mobile phone mast crop up everywhere. They seem to appear over night and since i took these picture there have been at least another 15 installed within a 5/ mile radius.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Essostanmore.jpg
The one above greets you when you come off the A41 and head towards Stanmore, opposite the Esso station and drive thru Mcd's.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Essostanmore2.jpg
This one is right next to the first one, literally 10-15 ft between them.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Stanmorestation.jpg
This one was the first to be installed and has been in te same place just opposite Stanmore Jubilee line station, i first noticed it back in 1993. It was the only one around until 2 years ago. Incidently this is positioned only a mile away from the other two.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Leefrob.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Leefrob2.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Leefrob3.jpg
If you drive down the same road continuing straight for only about another 1.5 miles you are met with these three, all outside an old petrol station which has been derilect for 2yrs now. But no houses have been built, another petrol station shut down for no reason.

Another 1-2 miles is Harrow Weald town centre, where onthe round about they have just recently(within the last few months) installed another one, which is now disguised as a wooden telegraph pole, complete with the fake climbing footrests, near the top. I haven't taken one of that yet, but keep posted and they will all be on here soon.

Outside KFC drive thru in Harrow Weald is another 2 together.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Kfcweald1.jpg
As you can see these two are so close togeher they are in each others photos.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Kfcweald2.jpg


As mentioned since i took these photo's last summer at least another 10-15 have been installed in the local 5-8 mile radius area. The rest will be posted i just need to get out there and get them on film, but there are so many news cropping up all the time it's now hard to keep a track of what is where.


Incidently Harrow's bee's have almost vanished. Take look at this, it mayhave already been posted so i apologise.
http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/keepers_fear_mystery_bee_illness.htm

So what do you lot think they are all for, mobile phones must have reached a peak of sales years back, the reception hasn't improved and they expect us to belive they are for mobiles.

Blue beam?
Mind control?
Desease creating?
Radiation poisoning of UK public?

[rainmaker]

Sure wouldn't hurt to gift these suckers with some orgonite!

[mada88]

its just like they live! maybe they are transmitters. Also check out all the bloody mobile phone masts maybe they could be used to keep some beings underwrapps ;)

[lookfar]

Good thread truthseeker1980.

FFS that's dreadful!!:mad: I agree with rainmaker, they need gifting for sure!

Have you checked on the Ofcom Sitefinder site to see if they're listed? Can't totally rely on its accuracy, but has helped me pinpoint some where I live. Here's the link in case you haven't seen it...

Ofcom sitefinder (UK only)
http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/

Pictures of masts & how to identify them...
http://www.prattfamily.demon.co.uk/mikep/photind.htm

Tetrawatch site
http://www.tetrawatch.net/main/index.php

Look forward to seeing your other pics...

[king]

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Blue beam?
Mind control?
Desease creating?
Radiation poisoning of UK public?

mind control
because, next to all schools in my area you can find antennas like that, and you can find directional antennas on deserted roads as well and let me tell you -- those are not for cell phones.

what i think they are doing is beaming certain frequency that human brains "jump to" because of sheer power of that frequency.

once human brains become entrained to another frequency then consciousness of individuals can be manipulated, or evolution of consciousness stifled.

those antenna masts are kind of like pirate radio station that emits raw power and overshadows all other stations in neighborhood because of such raw power.

so, in a sense we are forced to listen to a certain range of frequencies that
most likely disallow humans to disconnect from this evolution of consciousness that is also a frequency.

if human beings are destined to evolve and become free by dropping old ways (war, oppression, manipulation) that their current masters employ to keep them subjugated -- then such evolutionary shift of frequency would be a major threat to masters.

i think that this evolution of consciousness is what Icke called "lifting of the veil"

[lookfar]

what i think they are doing is beaming certain frequency that human brains "jump to" because of sheer power of that frequency.

once human brains become entrained to another frequency then consciousness of individuals can be manipulated, or evolution of consciousness stifled.

those antenna masts are kind of like pirate radio station that emits raw power and overshadows all other stations in neighborhood because of such raw power.

so, in a sense we are forced to listen to a certain range of frequencies that
most likely disallow humans to disconnect from this evolution of consciousness that is also a frequency.


Hi King

Reading your post has reminded me of something that happened to me a few weeks ago. I was laid in bed at about 2am but couldn't sleep because I heard this electrical humming. It was intermittent but had no specific rhythm to it. I also sort of 'felt' it within my ears rather than just heard, it was quite uncomfortable & unsettling. It wasn't coming from anywhere within the house either, was definitely outside. It disturbed me for a while but eventually managed to get to sleep (with the aid of my orgonite).

I have a Tetra mast not too far from here & wondered if they'd been messing with the frequency on it or something? Would welcome any ideas in case it was something else??? Has anyone else experienced this?

[klinker]

Hi King

Reading your post has reminded me of something that happened to me a few weeks ago. I was laid in bed at about 2am but couldn't sleep because I heard this electrical humming. It was intermittent but had no specific rhythm to it. I also sort of 'felt' it within my ears rather than just heard, it was quite uncomfortable & unsettling. It wasn't coming from anywhere within the house either, was definitely outside. It disturbed me for a while but eventually managed to get to sleep (with the aid of my orgonite).

I have a Tetra mast not too far from here & wondered if they'd been messing with the frequency on it or something? Would welcome any ideas in case it was something else??? Has anyone else experienced this?

Strange event for me too. I have three of those masts not half a mile from me. This thread makes me wonder if my 'dream' was connected to them.

I rarely remember my dreams but when I do they are lucid and feel like anything but a dream. The most recent one was not pleasant.

Anyways it was a short dream and I was walking to walk when everybody collapsed immediately having been subjected to an intense burst of sound operating at some high frequency. Maybe EMF or something. I remember falling to the ground because of the most intense pain in my head. I could not get away from this agony and I was paralyzed. This sound burst lasted a few seconds then stopped.

For me the scary bit was that as soon as I hit the ground in my dream I woke up and seemed to experience the pain and paralysis for real. As soon as the sound burst stopped the pain went but it was still a few seconds before I could move again. When I could move I felt absolutely exhausted and reliving the experience in my head was very strong for a couple of days afterwards.

[rainmaker]

Hey lookfar, we have a Tetra mast just here too, and the other morning I was woken up by an electrical humming in my chest. It was as if someone had put a vibrator on my chest bone! it definitely was not palpitations, this was a definite electrical buzz which seemed to be coming from outside but resonated in my chest. I have orgonite all over the place!

[avatar]

If you are genuinely concerned about this and are looking for an additional solution to orgonite then get thyself here (http://montalk.net/conspiracy/55/how-to-block-microwave-mind-programming-signals) forthwith.

Your family and friends will think you are bonkers but sometimes thats the price to be paid.

[gordonfreeman]

I'm surprised, that I am the only one wearing orgonite pendant in my home and this not-so-good city that I am living on.

[lookfar]

If you are genuinely concerned about this and are looking for an additional solution to orgonite then get thyself here (http://montalk.net/conspiracy/55/how-to-block-microwave-mind-programming-signals) forthwith.

Your family and friends will think you are bonkers but sometimes thats the price to be paid.

Hi Avatar

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out in more detail later. My family & friends already think I'm bonkers, so not a problem!! :)

[lookfar]

Hey lookfar, we have a Tetra mast just here too, and the other morning I was woken up by an electrical humming in my chest. It was as if someone had put a vibrator on my chest bone! it definitely was not palpitations, this was a definite electrical buzz which seemed to be coming from outside but resonated in my chest. I have orgonite all over the place!

Hi rainmaker. OMG what a dreadful way to wake up!!:eek: I think they're definitely tampering with the frequencies or something. Reckon we should get gifting these bastard things, BIG TIME!!

[king]

Hi King

Reading your post has reminded me of something that happened to me a few weeks ago. I was laid in bed at about 2am but couldn't sleep because I heard this electrical humming. It was intermittent but had no specific rhythm to it. I also sort of 'felt' it within my ears rather than just heard, it was quite uncomfortable & unsettling. It wasn't coming from anywhere within the house either, was definitely outside. It disturbed me for a while but eventually managed to get to sleep (with the aid of my orgonite).

I have a Tetra mast not too far from here & wondered if they'd been messing with the frequency on it or something? Would welcome any ideas in case it was something else??? Has anyone else experienced this?

hi lookfar

i heard that some people occasionally hear such humming sounds.

it is either that you are overly sensitive (able to pick up such sounds) or they
may be messing with frequencies, and if you are too close to such tower -- it sure does not help.

i really do not know what kind of device and antenna would you need to pick up the frequency of cell/tetra towers, especially if waves are pulsed at low frequency.

maybe someone can give more input on this subject.

[lookfar]

hi lookfar

i heard that some people heard such humming sounds.

it is either that you are overly sensitive (able to pick up such sounds) or they
may be messing with frequencies, and if you are too close to such tower -- it sure does not help.

i really do not know what kind of device and antenna would you need to pick up the frequency of cell/tetra towers, especially if waves are pulsed at low frequency.

maybe someone can give more input on this subject.

Thanks king. I'm actually just starting to wonder if having orgonite around helps you pick up on them whereas maybe other people don't???? Not sure... just a thought...

[avatar]

i really do not know what kind of device and antenna would you need to pick up the frequency of cell/tetra towers, especially if waves are pulsed at low frequency.

maybe someone can give more input on this subject.

The link I just posted will answer your questions.

[king]

Thanks king. I'm actually just starting to wonder if having orgonite around helps you pick up on them whereas maybe other people don't???? Not sure... just a thought...

that is a good thought.....
it seems likely, come to think

[king]

The link I just posted will answer your questions.

thank you
i just printed it and i will read it now

[freespark]

Hi truthseeker....i was disturbed to see those pics and also reading comments left by the others. I have also heard these humming sounds you guys mentioned when i lived in Wembley.

I could hear the humming in the mornings and at night before i went to sleep. I asked the others in the house if they could hear anything but it turns out that i was the only one. It used to drive me crazy and i always wondered after reading about underground bases if this was perhaps a tunnel boring machine. I lived on a big hill and thought it would be a perfect place for an underground facility of some sort.

Seeing these antenna pictures now has got me wondering if it wasn't something to do with them. I didn't see many antenna is my old neighbourhood, butn then again i wasn't looking for them.

Truthseeker, do you think it would be worth approaching your town council or other residents and ask them what those things are? It would be interesting to see what comments and answers you get.

If they are really using these things for what we suspect they are....ohhhh boy. The phrase deep shit springs to mind. But also means that they are getting worried enough that have resorted to covering this electronic mind control 'angle' to such an extent.

This is just getting out of control man!

[freespark]

Check out this link to Ofcom...(thanks Lookfar)

http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/

I typed in Stanmore...the images below show a large number of mobile phone bases in the area you took photo's of.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6843/mobilebasesstanmorebd9.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5779/stanmore2xz3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

EDIT: Why are these things right on top of each other? One would have thought they would spread them out to get maximum coverage?? Very strange. Maybe someone with more knowledge of the technology could shed some light on this.

[lookfar]

You're welcome freespark :)

Just had a thought as to why they're all grouped together... it might have something to do with gaining planning permission for them? I think once approvals been sought for a mast to be placed, then the other networks jump on the bandwagon & get theirs up too, piggybacking so to speak.

They seem to be located in highly populated areas. Although where I live, I've noticed that there's a concentration of them (including a TETRA!!) on the roof of the General Hospital - how's that for healthy people!!!:eek:

[deca]

If you live near these masts I would be looking to get some special paint

http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp

Silver Bobbinet is good but expensive I have 1 window fitted with it its less noticeable than net curtain. If you put rap your phone in it, it kills the signal.

I got my paint from here http://www.siin.com/products.html I got the powder but I am not sure if I mixed it right. had problems emailing this company,no instructions.

I am going to get ready mixed paint next time.

get a good detector it will help you decide what walls to paint and where the hot spots are.Also helps out to show other people the dangers.

If you rent/or moving soon a Bell-shaped bed canopies might be better than paint.

[deca]

What people don`t realize theres 5 networks+tetra they all need there own masts

[truthseeker1980]

Hi Freespark,

Apparently there are tunnels from NATO HQ in Northwood all the way to Downing street and Harrow on the hill, which has an 800yr church on and also an illuminati breeding school on top, is supposed to be linked into this tunnel network. I was told this by my family who have lived in the area since it was built in the 1930's. Not sure of the evidence but is a local myth and would make sense from the cold war.

Hi Lookfar,
Very good point, when i was a little boy, i would always pick up on frequencies and buzzing sounds. I remember i must have been about 6-7yrs old and arguing with my friend at school as he asked me if i could hear a high pitched white noise buzzing sound and i could so said i could, he then dismissed it as his ears buzzing and said i couldn't hear it. maybe they were training us then to dismiss hearing it.

This is really wierd but 5-6 yrs ago, before these masts were anywhere to be seen apart from the one outside Stanore station. I had a really lucid dream about being on top of a hill and there were loads of white and red painted masts as far as the eye could see. These masts were being used as sound weapons which omitted a frequecy which brought everyone to their knees and also being used to shoot laser beams up into the sky. I can't remember much about why i was up on the hill, but i wasn't allowed into a building where the bad people were controlling the missile type masts from. Some of the masts where not erect and were lying down, like a missle launcher on a truck. Too many years ago to remember exactly but you just reminded me with your dream description.

There is a massive directional mast in Pinner Green Tesco car park and that one actually gives me a mild headache everytime i drive past it, my ex girlfriend noticed the same and she is sceptical about all this.

[peter19]

yeah i have heard the humming sound were i live, and it is normally late on the night too about 1 or 2 am. i was thinking of getting out of bed and checking them out one time, to see were the buzzing was comeing through. i wouldnt say you hear them because of orgone though because i havent made any of them, im not even to sure what it is really, but i havent gone out of me way to make anything like that. anyone have any good info on orgone?, i might look it up. cheers:)

and im sat here with me tin foil hat on, no lie lol.

[freespark]

yeah i have heard the humming sound were i live, and it is normally late on the night too about 1 or 2 am. i was thinking of getting out of bed and checking them out one time, to see were the buzzing was comeing through. i wouldnt say you hear them because of orgone though because i havent made any of them, im not even to sure what it is really, but i havent gone out of me way to make anything like that. anyone have any good info on orgone?, i might look it up. cheers:)

and im sat here with me tin foil hat on, no lie lol.

and im sat here with me tin foil hat on, no lie lol.

Lololol....thats funny man.

Yeah the humming sounds i also heard early morning and late at night. I would get up and take a peak and listen outside the house but then i found i could not hear anything. I recon because sound travels farther in solid objects that maybe the sound was being transmitted through the foundations of the house. I was the only one on the bottom floor so this would explain why i was the only one who could hear it perhaps. :confused:

Truthseeker...yeah with regards to the church and tunnels in Harrow on the Hill...i could see that hill and church from my back garden. i'm beginning to realise that maybe it was a tunnel boring machine or some such operating in the area. I also remember now that they used to do alot of night time work near the tube line network a few hundered meters away from Preston Road Tube Station. I would hear clanging and banging sounds late at night before i went to bed. This happened all of the 5 years i lived there!!!

Very fishy indeed.

[peter19]

URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6476/pict0002er7.jpg[/URL]

i think is suits me and all :D :D

[freespark]

Bwahahahaha.....:D

Just make sure you got the 'shiny' side facing out!!

[lookfar]

LMAO Peter19, that's so funny!!!:D :) I'd read your post before lunch & it made me laugh.... now I've just got back & there you are in your hat!!!:D

Excellent stuff, nice one mate :cool: :D

BTW... there's a sticky in the What Can We Do Forum with lots of useful orgone info...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451

[truthseeker1980]

They are still doing stupid track maintenance along the metropolitain line, Northwood hills station is now the hub, they have been using chainsaws and heavy crane lifting equipment there for almost a year, you can't get any sleep between 12 and 5 any day of the week because of it, the funny thing is when my car wasn't working and i'd get the train to work, the station always looked the same as the day before, so what they are doing is a mystery.

Called Hillingdon council about the noise and they said that they are aloowed to coz they can't do it while the trains are running. So no sleep for my ex, who lives next door for a while yet. oh well she shouldn't have finished it with me. muwahahaha.

[avatar]

If you live near these masts I would be looking to get some special paint

http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp

Silver Bobbinet is good but expensive I have 1 window fitted with it its less noticeable than net curtain. If you put rap your phone in it, it kills the signal.

I got my paint from here http://www.siin.com/products.html I got the powder but I am not sure if I mixed it right. had problems emailing this company,no instructions.

I am going to get ready mixed paint next time.

get a good detector it will help you decide what walls to paint and where the hot spots are.Also helps out to show other people the dangers.

If you rent/or moving soon a Bell-shaped bed canopies might be better than paint.

Hey Deca I've just watched your Youtube vids that you posted a while back.

Is your situation still the same?

Have you taken any preventative measures that have worked?

are you still using that crappy EMF reader or did you get something better?

I feel for you man the UK has the worst microwatt per square centimetre tolerance in the world..

its sick

[avatar]

OK I've got to head out soon so I'll do this now.

@Deca

I noticed that the reader you were using is a pretty low end basic model just about good enough to detect EMF but without giving you any detailed readings or information as to the frequency or the source.

If you haven't already got a better one then you really need to get one of these -

Zapchecker 185 - The ZC 185 is a quality instrument that detects and displays RF (Radio Frequency) signal levels with uniquely high sensitivity, similar to a broadband receiver. It provides Linear and Logarithmic measurements of RF signals over a broad span of frequencies. The ZC 185 allows the user to detect and measure signal strength and to distinguish between analog and digital transmissions.

http://www.zapchecker.com/zc185.html

These are quite frankly the nuts, you will be able to detect the source, the strength and whether the signal is Analog or Digital. You can also set them to vibrate mode at an adjustable level so you can stick it in your pocket and head out for the day and when you walk through a strong field area it will buzz you. They weigh 150g with batteries and fit in the palm of your hand.


If that doesn't tickle your fancy then try this one -

Tri-field Meter - The original TriField ® Meter combines all the features needed for fast, accurate measurements of electromagnetic fields. It independently measures electric field and magnetic field, and is properly scaled to indicate the full magnitude of currents produced by each type of field inside a conductive body. As a result, it "sees" much more than any other electromagnetic pollution meter.
This meter is the only one which combines magnetic, electric, and radio/microwave detectors in one package, so that the entire nonionizing electromagnetic spectrum is covered.

http://www.trifield.com/EMF_meter.htm

Now this is a toy and a half. Aswell as reading microwaves it will measure magnetic fields AND electric/AC fields. Run this thing around the walls of your house to see where the botched wiring is creating dangerous surge hotspots ( very common ). It is so sensitive it can detect the electromagnetic field of a person through walls. You will see this instrument in the popular ghost hunting /haunted places shows.

Its larger and heavier but does more.

Both are excellent value, you should be able to get either one delivered to your door for about 90-100 quid. Bargain.

I also suggest you read this article in its entirety, I will include a couple of excerpts here..

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20060401.htm

"The Russians well understand that a tiny bit of microwave can cause serious health problems and death. Russian microwave standards for public exposure are 100 times more stringent than those in the U.S. The Chinese standards are even more stringent. Austria allows public exposure of only .1 microwatt per cm.2 Contrast that to Great Britain’s genocidal standards which permit a whopping 5,800 microwatts per cm2. This is most convenient for Tony Blair’s rabid surveillance police state, outpacing even our own in repression and scope with its deadly TETRA police communications radiation."


"For three years now Ingri and I have been traveling with a hand-held device called a "zapchecker." The zapchecker measures ambient levels of electromagnetic radiation. During dozens of road trips throughout the western U.S. since 2003, we would be driving along and notice that the zapchecker would suddenly "spike." We would then see a cell tower, a hospital or government building with a satelite communications array, a radio station or, sometimes, high tension lines within a half mile or so. After a few minutes, the zapchecker would calm down again until the next wireless monument came within range. Sometimes, however, it would spike for a moment for no apparent reason. We figured that we had just encountered a microwave transmission superhighway—evidence we had crossed paths with microwaves being transmitted between repeaters.

On March 30, 2006, Ingri and I traveled from Spirit Lake to Seattle to attend what turned out to be an excellent 9/11 truth event on the University of Washington campus. What we experienced with regard to measureable amounts of ambient electromagnetic radiation was shocking to us and occupied much of our conversation throughout our journey. Wherein previous years there would be miles between measureable amounts of radiation being detected by our zapchecker, the opposite was suddenly true.

We notied that our zapchecker was spiking about 90 percent of the time during our 800-mile round trip. In eastern Washington it was "clean" only between cell towers and now there is almost always one in sight. In western Washington, the only "clean" areas were a little spot south of Olympia and an area outside Shelton.

In all cases, when we were in urban areas, the zapchecker was solidly spiked—even when the sensitivity of the device was turned down.

We are amazed at how quickly our world came from being irradiated only in spots to being saturated in this odorless, tasteless and invisible ambient danger.

Like it or not, except in isolated areas, as of April, 2006, we are bathed in ambient radiation."


I hope this helps in some way :)

[deca]

I am on a tight budget so I still have that meter but I am gonna get a better one soon I hope, I think the tri field is something that I need.The meter that i have is cheap and easy to use only (13 pounds) but does not give you much information.
They turn down there signal when i try and video it.Yea I have heard the zapchecker is good.I am a TI (targeted individual) I am 24/7 in there sights.A lot
of people do hear hum and other effects especially if you live near masts.
I found tin foil hats not all that good check out http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html for baseball cap.

[avatar]

The question is why are you a TI?

Do you know?

Actually tin foil hats work great if they are electrically grounded just like any sheet metal. Metal is great for blocking microwaves but the opposite is true if you do not ground it properly.

Its also important to remember that they don't target your head but your whole organism, especially the chest area, so tin foil hats are essentially ineffective.

Windows should be your main priority.

[deca]

Hmmm I don`t know.

Would you ask a lab monkey why he been experimented on?

I live in Lancashire one of the first to get tetra.BAE system is just down the road I can only guess.Yep my whole body is an Ariel.My baseball cap dampens some of the effects being dizzy & sleepy plus I can wear it out the house.

[deca]

avatar I don`t feel to great today will hopefully give you better answers tomorrow.

[graflok]

There is a spot alongside a freeway near my home that has 3 cell phone-type antennae together.

It's hard to believe this is really necessary just for cell phone use.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6913/antennaph7.jpg

graflok

[avatar]

Death Towers

http://www.ethericwarriors.com/main/index....ion=topic&t=256


I compiled a list of observations that rational people can use to understand that the millions of death towers that were thrown up in mid-2001 are not for cellphones. The next step for the rational mind is to understand, of course, that they're weapons deployed against the population of our planet. This induces a sort of awakening among the PJ folks who aren't entirely committed to remaining asleep.

By the way, PJ folks are just like us except that they don't particularly want to wake up. Most of us are awareness junkies; we're not particularly better than anyone else. Arrogance is a trap that even the most subtle mind will likely step into and Carol mentioned the other day that taking on this healing work requires us to develop our characters and personal integrity.

When we ignore that requirement, forward progress takes the form of wading through $#!+ and falling on our faces ;-) so why not be genuinely humble and outward-looking?


I hope you find the following useful:


If you think those millions of new neighborhood towers around the globe are for cellphones, here are some questions you can ask yourself, assuming that you'd like to break free from old, self-limiting programming and the What To Think Network:


1)Why is cellphone reception disrupted near all of the towers, and was generally better before they were erected, four years ago?


2) Why are no towers at all seen in the countryside in some areas where cell reception is excellent?


3) Why are most of these eyesores in neighborhoods, typically next to schools, hospitals, office buildings, factories, malls, stadia, etc., where the most people gather at one time? Why, for that matter, are a few of them in the upscale neighborhoods clumsily disguised as gigantic trees?


4) Why are these towers equally distributed in places like Tibet, rural Africa and other poverty-stricken regions where there are very few, if any, cellphones in operation?


5) Why are some of the more depressed urban centers, like Kuwait and Beijing, so plagued by these new towers that they loom on every block in the most heavily populated and miserable areas?


6) Why, conversely, are so few towers seen in Moscow and rural Costa Rica, where cellphone reception is consistently cheap and excellent and where local people are told that it's all done via satellite?


7) Picture phones in North America are advertised as using satellites for transmission, so why do we still assume that these ugly, omnipresent and sickening fortified towers are 'for cellphones'


8) Coke and Pepsi have been in a bloodletting struggle to dominate the global cola market for generations, so why are the various cellphone companies, who presumably invested countless billions of dollars in new towers all of a sudden, four years ago, not aggressively competing with each other to recoup that immeasurably massive capital outlay? Where did they get the money for all that un-necessary, costly tech? Why spend it if it's not even necessary? Cellphones are getting cheaper to use, not more expensive.


9) Why does the smog clear away in the area, also the chemtrail remnants overhead, when a dozen or more contiguous towers are 'gifted' with simple, cheap orgonite in a single day.


10)Why are the power cables running up every new towers an order of magnitude fatter than the single powerline leading into the fortified bunker at the base of the tower? All of them, by the way, are fortified as if to withstand an artillery barrage or bomb. For that matter, why do so many of these new towers not even connect to the power grid?


11) Where does the electricity for these new towers actually come from, since there's rarely any generator noise coming from the fortified concrete bunkers, which we can presume host large emergency generators? If you live in a less-developed area of Africa, by the way, you likely hear these diesel- or propane-powered generators running most of the time and there's likely an armed guard in the enclosure.


12) Genuine cell transponders require very little power and can be mounted on phone poles, roofs and even treetops, so why the expensive fortification and massive powelines running from the bunkers to the panels, dishes, horns and rods on these towers? Presumably you understand that satellites already handle much of the traffic and that the French have been shooting communication satellites into orbit for decades with cannons (a lot smaller than the Jules Verne version, by the way), which is several orders of magnitude cheaper than using missiles.


13) Why are so many kinds of transmitter devices hosted by these towers? Nobody knows what these transmitter devices do because the information is not available, which clearly indicates military involvement. This secet is as well kept as the Manhattan Project was.


14) Why are you warned not to stop your car engine near some of these towers? There are posted warnings at many of these sites not to approach the enclosures due to dangerously strong electromagnetic fields, too. Your inexpensive cellphone (mine cost ten dollars) efficiently provides so much power for getting and sending communication signals that if you but an egg between two operating cellphones it will get cooked pretty fast, so that's obviously where most of the work is being done, not at the transmitter locations or even at the little communication satellites, which swarm our skies now. Try that simple experiment, then use an earplug and mike or the speaker from then on, okay? Keep that thing away from your brain, friend!


15) Why are many of these towers in the US not even listed with the Federal Communication Commission? Carol and I have disabled thousands of these towers here and abroad, as many people in this network have done, and we see that a lot.


16) If you're energy sensitive, why do you feel sick every time you get within a mile or two of one of these new towers? A large percentage of the population is naturally energy sensitive, by the way.


17) Why did most of these death transmitters suddenly get erected, worldwide, in the fall of 2001? Why are so many people nearby getting cancer and dying now? Why has human behavior near the towers become so erratic and even violent?


18) Why have there been no mentions of these eyesores on TV news shows, the radio or in newspapers in most countries? The largest death tower array we've ever seen is just uphill from the HOLLYWOOD sign in Los Angeles. Note that shots of that sign in movies filmed in LA since the fall of 2002 are usually panned in a way that blocks the view of those dozens of (disabled) towers.


19) If this disturbs you, what will you do about it?

[truthseeker1980]

Let's get gifting all of them in north wets London to start with then, it will take a massive group of people though, as the ones i have taken pictures of are the new shaped ones. I didn't take any pictures of the standard death towers which haunt residential blocks, office blocks, supermarket carparks and the sides of motorways.

Graflok,
Evey one of those new masts in my pictures, was always walking distance to a roof with the usual directional antenna's like the ones in your photo on the side of the road in the US. If i had taken a pic of all of those too, the post would be pages long.

Anyone up for creating some holy handgrenades and coming out on a North West London gifting mission? I haven't made one yet but am interested in learning how.

If there are this many masts in a North London suburb, the city centre will be almost impossible to gift, but we can try.

[deca]

I have 3 thermal blankets and did stick them over the walls and rapped them around my bed I also earthed them.They did not seem to make much difference
.The perpetrators are good at fooling you and putting you of doing things.They
can move were I perceive the microwave hearing I also believe they can use bone conduction possibly ultrasound.I am not knocking tin foil at all but it would be a temporary measure. I live with my daughter and ex-wife who thinks that this is all in my mind and I am crazy.So sticking tin foil all over the walls just
plays into that belief.I All so have a mental health guy who checks on me from time to time.I can`t think what looks I would get walking down the road with a tin foil hat on.I have got 1 room done now with carbon paint and Silver Bobbinet over the window i feel thats the way to go.After all i want my normal life back and these things making it.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Why must people be mind controled? :(

[deca]

I am more electronic harassed than mind controlled.

[tinmenace]

Because, in the words of Eliphas Levi, "...human willpower is a real force, capable of achieving absolutely anything, from the mundane to the miraculous."

It's a way for them to suppress our ever increasing consciousness. It's a force they don't have, so they have used scientific methods to duplicate this energy to control us. Their will over ours - a truly dark act.

Quantum (them) vs Magick (us)

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Because, in the words of Eliphas Levi, "...human willpower is a real force, capable of achieving absolutely anything, from the mundane to the miraculous."

It's a way for them to suppress our ever increasing consciousness. It's a force they don't have, so they have used scientific methods to duplicate this energy to control us. Their will over ours - a truly dark act.

Quantum (them) vs Magick (us)

But aren't Quantum and Magic the same thing?

[tinmenace]

They absolutely are! Ours is a suppressed birthright, theirs is a manufactured copy. They had to come up with a way, equally powerful to our natural resource, to keep us oppressed.

[deca]

you should also check out celldar how they can track moving objects even stealth planes over a mobile net work

http://www.roke.co.uk/press/38.php
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20030111_celldar.asp

[lookfar]

Truthseeker1980 has just brought this thread back to my attention - thanks :)

I am awaiting some pics of towers disguised as trees, so I will post these as soon as I get them...

[deca]

The military connections (or: ‘tell us we’re paranoid’!)
http://www.tetrawatch.net/national/connections.php

[baron von lotsov]

To know for sure get a frequency counter. Mind control is specific to about 10 frequencies. The lowest is 147mhz, then about 450 one or two around 900 and so on. I did have a list somewhere.

[truthseeker1980]

Just thought i'd bring this post back from the grave as rise_to_addiction mentioned seeing sausage type things on lamps posts, I didn't get many pics of those ones but the main ones are those on the first page of this thread.

I think it's quite relevant to bring this back up, as since i posted this last year there are now about 50-60 of these things in about a 5-6 mile radius in north west london and that's not including the death towers on top of office blocks, blocks of flats and schools.

Together with the introdction of that Mosquito surveilance thing the police have put up to deter kids from hanging around certain areas. Which only affects people under the age of 20, i think we need to start questioning the councils, government and mobile phone companies about what these really are.

As it seems the more of these that are put up, the more violent the youth get, already this year in London more kids under 20 have been murdered than last year, if it continues to rise the total will be double that of last year and the total of last year was 18 under 20's murdered.

The Mosquito device is what got me thinking, if they have pubically admitted that they have the technology to target certain age groups with frequencies, then who's to say that this is not already happening in the UK city centres where youths seem to have lost the value of another's life.

Again it would be a blatant truth from the film the happening, menaing it's already HAPPENING!

[rise_to_addiction]

But what are the mobile phone masts for? Certainly not improving the signal. There's a few of them in my village but my phone still loses signal in the same areas.

http://www.chellaston.org.uk/VodaUpShot.jpg

[deafbred]

But what are the mobile phone masts for? Certainly not improving the signal. There's a few of them in my village but my phone still loses signal in the same areas.

http://www.chellaston.org.uk/VodaUpShot.jpg

they're inserting us into the matrix by 2025

[beldazar]

weird synchronicity for me here...today I went out gifting, I was sure I knew where the masts were thanks to sitefinder, I walked around for ages looking for one and then I spotted a flag-pole in someones garden, I knew they disguise them as trees so I thought I would ask the occupant what it was.

On his gate, both sides were the freemasonic sign but as a 'v' and upside down 'v'. I asked him straight out if he was a mason, he said no, its cos his two daughters are called Victoria ansd Alison and its about them, he said it was just a flagpole and he flies the sign up there on their birthdays, he also has the symbol in glass on his door. The guy was smiling telling me all this and as he was talking,I could 'see' him dressed in freemasonic get-up at a ceremony, I also saw him in a negative light. I havent had that happen before and Im not one for having strange visions. I believed his story that it was just a flagpole but not the story of the symbol.

And here is this thread showing a picture of a flagpole that is really a phone mast!

[dankai]

its just like they live! maybe they are transmitters. Also check out all the bloody mobile phone masts maybe they could be used to keep some beings underwrapps ;)
Agreed. I've longed believed that our brains are receptors and transmitters. With enough of those poles up, transmitting certain frequencies, who knows what is going to be received into our minds.

When I read or hear about people who claim "God told me to do it" right before they commit a crime, or "I heard voices telling me to..." makes me believe even more that their minds are receiving certain messages sent out on frequencies.

Could be the cause of headaches, dizziness, loss of memory, etc.

[misterethoughts]

Great photos.

[deca]

Agreed. I've longed believed that our brains are receptors and transmitters. With enough of those poles up, transmitting certain frequencies, who knows what is going to be received into our minds.

When I read or hear about people who claim "God told me to do it" right before they commit a crime, or "I heard voices telling me to..." makes me believe even more that their minds are receiving certain messages sent out on frequencies.

Could be the cause of headaches, dizziness, loss of memory, etc.


Check this link out
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20071217.aspx

December 17, 2007: While U.S. efforts to deploy it's microwave Active Denial System (which transmits a searchlight sized bean of energy when makes people downrange feel like their skin is on fire) continue to be delayed, another non-lethal system, LRAD (Long Range Acoustic Device) has been quietly deployed to Iraq. And there the story gets a little strange.


LRAD is basically a focused beam of sound. Originally, it was designed to emit a very loud sound. Anyone whose head was touched by this beam, heard a painfully loud sound. Anyone standing next to them heard nothing. But those hit by the beam promptly fled, or fell to the ground in pain. Permanent hearing loss is possible if the beam is kept on a person for several seconds, but given the effect the sound usually has on people (they move, quickly), it is unlikely to happen. LRAD works. It was recently used off Somalia, by a cruise ship, to repel pirates. Some U.S. Navy ships also carry it, but not just to repel attacking suicide bombers, or whatever. No, the system was sold to the navy for a much gentler application. LRAD can also broadcast speech for up to 300 meters. The navy planned to use LRAD to warn ships to get out of the way. This was needed in places like the crowded coastal waters of the northern Persian Gulf, where the navy patrols. Many small fishing and cargo boats ply these waters, and it's often hard to get the attention of the crews. With LRAD, you just aim it at a member of the crew, and have an interpreter "speak" to the sailor. It was noted that the guy on the receiving end was sometimes terrified, even after he realized it was that large American destroyer that was talking to him. This apparently gave the army guys some ideas, for there are now rumors in Iraq of a devilish American weapon that makes people believe they are hearing voices in their heads.



This made more sense when an American advertising firm recently used an LRAD unit to support a media campaign for a new TV show. LRAD was pointed at a sidewalk in Manhattan, below the billboard featuring the new show. LRAD broadcast a female voice providing teaser lines from the show. The effect was startling, and a bit scary for many who passed through the LRAD beam. It appears that some of the troops in Iraq are using "spoken" (as opposed to "screeching") LRAD to mess with enemy fighters. Islamic terrorists tend to be superstitious and, of course, very religious. LRAD can put the "word of God" into their heads. If God, in the form of a voice that only you can hear, tells you to surrender, or run away, what are you gonna do?


Meanwhile, the microwave powered ADS, a non-lethal weapon that looks like a radar dish, languishes in politically correct limbo. The ADS "radar dish" projects a "burn ray" that is about four feet in diameter. It is effective in fog, smoke and rain. When pointed at people and turned on, it creates a burning sensation on the skin of its victims, causing them to want to leave the area, or at least greatly distracts them. The microwave weapon has a range of about 500 meters. ADS is carried on a hummer or Stryker, along with a machine-gun and other non-lethal weapons (like LRAD). The proposed ROE (Rules of Engagement) for ADS were that anyone who kept coming after getting hit with microwave was assumed to have evil intent, and could be killed. The microwave is believed to be particularly useful for terrorists who hide in crowds of women and children, using the human shields to get close enough to make an attack. This has been encountered in Somalia and Iraq.



Deployment of ADS has been delayed for years because of concerns about how non-lethal it really is. ADS has been fired, in tests, over 2,500 times. Many of these firings were against human volunteers, and the device performed as predicted, without any permanent damage. But generations of exposure to lurid science fiction descriptions of "death rays" has made the defense bureaucrats anxious over the negative public relations potential if something like ADS was actually used. From a publicity perspective, using more lethal "non-lethal-weapons" is preferable to deploying something safer, but that could be described, however incorrectly, as a "death ray." In any event, it appears that the cheaper, smaller (about 45 pounds), gentler and more flexible LRAD has taken ADS's place in the American arsenal. At least for now.



and also this


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
Microwave auditory effect
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The microwave auditory effect, also known as the microwave hearing effect or the Frey effect, consists of audible clicks induced by pulsed/modulated microwave frequencies. The clicks are generated directly inside the human head without the need of any receiving electronic device. The effect was first reported by persons working in the vicinity of radar transponders during World War II. These induced sounds are not audible to other people nearby. The microwave auditory effect was later discovered to be inducible with shorter-wavelength portions of the electromagnetic spectrum. During the Cold War era, the American neuroscientist Allan H. Frey studied this phenomenon and was the first to publish (Journal of Applied Physiology, Vol. 17, pages 689-692, 1962) information on the nature of the microwave auditory effect; this effect is therefore also known as the Frey effect.

Research by NASA in the 1970s showed that this effect occurs as a result of thermal expansion of parts of the human ear around the cochlea, even at low power density. Later, signal modulation was found to produce sounds or words that appeared to originate intracranially. It was studied for its possible use in communications but has not been developed due to the possible hazardous biological effects of microwave radiation. Similar research conducted in the USSR studied its use in non-lethal weaponry.

The existence of non-lethal weaponry that exploits the microwave auditory effect appears to have been classified "Secret NOFORN" in the USA from (at the latest) 1998, until the declassification on 6 December 2006 of Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weaponry in response to a FOIA request.

[tabea_blumenschein]

Outside KFC drive thru in Harrow Weald is another 2 together.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Kfcweald1.jpg


Look! A UFO! :)

[eternal_spirit]

One just like that on the way to Town, right next to a Chinese restaurant. Sure I can sense bad vibes when I pass by.

[beldazar]

There have been four of those masts similar to the picture above in my town, crafty buggers arent they? When I pointed out to my mum she would never have guessed they were err.......phone masts, hang on, mind control masts! :mad:

[jesuitsdidit]

there is alot of evidence that mind-control systems r an essential part of plan

[tracker]

I'm surprised, that I am the only one wearing orgonite pendant in my home and this not-so-good city that I am living on.


what you really need is an ultra high freuqnency modulator that can read these signals and then block them .

see what attention that brings your way then youve got ultra proof .

until then one must also prove they have nothing to do with mobile phones , both will be hard to prove .

why argonite and not a rabbits foot or a turky wish bone ?

wouldnt turning around 3 times and saying i love radar backwards do the trick ?

or there is always jumping pathing slabs and missing the gaps so that crocodiles dont eat you .

yeah i believe in mast mind control , but argonite protection ?

really ?:rolleyes:

[antinwo]

These things are to do with HARPP on a local level and mind control IMO. And these masts are breeding faster than rabbits. Anyone who believes these are to do with mobile phones need to wake up. Mobile phones used to work without these things:mad:

[noobcybot]

I wondered what these were for a time, as others have said there are loads of them and they appear overnight.

[deca]

tetra victom's everywhere (UK)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1nN1Sc0idH8

[queenofleon]

These things are to do with HARPP on a local level and mind control IMO. And these masts are breeding faster than rabbits. Anyone who believes these are to do with mobile phones need to wake up. Mobile phones used to work without these things:mad:

James Casbolt has an interesting theory on mobile phone masts.

He said that "they" record audio of slaughtered children and ommit the frequencies out in public arena's to make us all depressed and dumbed down and we dont know why...

I dont know about anyone else but my ears have been picking up some annoyingly high frequencies ALOT recently...

[deafbred]

guys...it really is about mind control.

[antinwo]

Yes and I have a feeling this technology will be used to beam messages to the RIFD implants that are coming:mad:

[dreamweaver]

I dont know about anyone else but my ears have been picking up some annoyingly high frequencies ALOT recently...
So have mine but I'm pretty sure it's tinnitus in my case. :(

[lizzy]

Yes and I have a feeling this technology will be used to beam messages to the RIFD implants that are coming:mad:

yup..and the message is......'your not hungry..your not cold...your not dying....all is well, be patient'.......TETRA is techotronic mind control.

[ceti]

wouldnt turning around 3 times and saying i love radar backwards do the trick ?

:D

just tryed it i feel better now.

i have a mast literaly round the corner and have major issues with what i thought to be tinnitus so bad ive thought of going to the doc.I really dont feel it is tinnitus although i do make music.I also get strange pains in my head not a headache more of a sharp shock.The high pitch noise also changes frequency often like a tunning or detuning of sorts.I live alone and often have thoughts of negative feelings but since the mast came its different sort of a feeling more of confusion.
I think these things defo react with soft metals ie flouride/ barium.Again my phone is on o2 the mast is o2 no difference at all since it came reception still sucks.I often get that noise like when your mobile is next to a speaker but my mob is no were near.Theres the noise just as im typing the message.weird

[antinwo]

Does anyone else get a head splitting feeling when they go directly near a mast cos this happens to me everytime I also get nauseous as well:eek:

[ceti]

Does anyone else get a head splitting feeling when they go directly near a mast cos this happens to me everytime I also get nauseous as well:eek:

i can see it from my window ive got that constantly.

[marpat]

This is a selcetion of photo's i took last year when i first started to notice these new type of supposed mobile phone mast crop up everywhere. They seem to appear over night and since i took these picture there have been at least another 15 installed within a 5/ mile radius.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Essostanmore.jpg
The one above greets you when you come off the A41 and head towards Stanmore, opposite the Esso station and drive thru Mcd's.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Essostanmore2.jpg
This one is right next to the first one, literally 10-15 ft between them.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Stanmorestation.jpg
This one was the first to be installed and has been in te same place just opposite Stanmore Jubilee line station, i first noticed it back in 1993. It was the only one around until 2 years ago. Incidently this is positioned only a mile away from the other two.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Leefrob.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Leefrob2.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Leefrob3.jpg
If you drive down the same road continuing straight for only about another 1.5 miles you are met with these three, all outside an old petrol station which has been derilect for 2yrs now. But no houses have been built, another petrol station shut down for no reason.

Another 1-2 miles is Harrow Weald town centre, where onthe round about they have just recently(within the last few months) installed another one, which is now disguised as a wooden telegraph pole, complete with the fake climbing footrests, near the top. I haven't taken one of that yet, but keep posted and they will all be on here soon.

Outside KFC drive thru in Harrow Weald is another 2 together.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Kfcweald1.jpg
As you can see these two are so close togeher they are in each others photos.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Mastsnstuff/Kfcweald2.jpg


As mentioned since i took these photo's last summer at least another 10-15 have been installed in the local 5-8 mile radius area. The rest will be posted i just need to get out there and get them on film, but there are so many news cropping up all the time it's now hard to keep a track of what is where.


Incidently Harrow's bee's have almost vanished. Take look at this, it mayhave already been posted so i apologise.
http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/keepers_fear_mystery_bee_illness.htm

So what do you lot think they are all for, mobile phones must have reached a peak of sales years back, the reception hasn't improved and they expect us to belive they are for mobiles.

Blue beam?
Mind control?
Desease creating?
Radiation poisoning of UK public?


They could belong to other networks or just extra masts to cover areas with large amounts of users.

I think you finals questions are a little bit crazy though and without any form of evidence to back it up.

Do you know anything about radiation poisoning? I do, I work on a very powerful radar and we have to observe specific safety precautions to keep us safe. Those tiny little masts could not provide anything like the same amount of power and the radiation hazard would be very small.

Please explain how a radio mast can mind control people.

[deafbred]

They could belong to other networks or just extra masts to cover areas with large amounts of users.

I think you finals questions are a little bit crazy though and without any form of evidence to back it up.

Do you know anything about radiation poisoning? I do, I work on a very powerful radar and we have to observe specific safety precautions to keep us safe. Those tiny little masts could not provide anything like the same amount of power and the radiation hazard would be very small.

Please explain how a radio mast can mind control people.

our bodies are bio-electrical organisms

these radar wave length conductor sending units and pulsating a wavelength into and through our bodies... wi fi internet goes through walls... you don't think it could pass through the body?

we are being bombarded with this type of stuff

my mom did say computers would be the down fall of the world.

its funny, she was right all along.

i remember david icke talking about how our bodies work on you tube once.. he explains it

i was just thinking...just the other day... i remember now... the water towers ...they just put up a NEW HUGE MULTIPLE TOWER FULL OF DISC DISHES...

yeh...this deff isn't for cell phone... wasn't obama talking about a national internet... wireless??

this is truly idiotic

but don't worry

i will play my guitar, take a stand...and defend with my voice cut through all the static noise

the power of three though... i need a drummer and a bass player... i got two people in mind.. this summer.. take my winnebago travel the east coast

play on the roof top.... in parking lots..

[bemore]

My hypothesis on the whole masts matter is this.......

Love can be mesuared as a frequency nowadays, as so can Fear.

If they can recreate these frequencies and broadcast them then it may be helpfull to them.

[truthseeker1980]

They could belong to other networks or just extra masts to cover areas with large amounts of users.

I think you finals questions are a little bit crazy though and without any form of evidence to back it up.

Do you know anything about radiation poisoning? I do, I work on a very powerful radar and we have to observe specific safety precautions to keep us safe. Those tiny little masts could not provide anything like the same amount of power and the radiation hazard would be very small.

Please explain how a radio mast can mind control people.

Extra masts to cover areas with more users? THE SIGNAL has remained the same on all networks within my area since before i took those photos two years ago, so that doesn't add up, coz they are still installing them everywhere.

I have not said any proof exsists, just makes me think, we know they are letting out enough radiation to cause people to contract cancers.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-415758/Mobile-phone-mast-caused-27-deaths-say-residents.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1687491.ece

We know they have the technology to attack just a small part of the population with ultasonic devices.
http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/deterrent_news_14.html

We know that HAARP exists and the poles are not too different, is HAARP not radio frequencies? Oh yeah but that touches on weather manipulation and CHEMTRAILS something which you deny exists, but you have now let more info out of the bag about, what exactly you do for the MoD, so you may also be involved in this type of weather manipulation, knowingly or blindly, would make more sense as to why you are so against the blatant chemtrails they spray, incidently yesterday again i saw one plane SPRAYING and the rest were normal contrails.
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

Theres no hard proof, coz the mobile networks will not fund the research about the mobile radiation and bluetooth dangers to our health. There was a BBC news story about 2 years ago (TAKEN OFF THE NET or i cant find it) which had a load of scientists on it, who said that they had discovered that bluetooth works on a similar frequency to our brainwaves and they are not sure if it's harmful for adults but the group of scientists at the time were trying to rally the government from installing wireless networks in schools as they had discovered it affects kids brains and could be dangerous in later life.

http://www.ultrawidebandplanet.com/technology/article.php/3781436
http://www.emfnews.org/articles/tag/bluetooth-safety/

So if they work on similar frequecnies to brainwaves then even a thick person could work out where i'm coming from, also this which was posted on here earlier in the year.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1841108,00.html

So the technology exists MARPAT.

[deafbred]

and crack the bell of their spell
put the time wheel to a halt solved

yeah its all ones and zeros for them

just like computers binary code

1111000010110

etc eh so

...if I could split the ZERO and make it get cut in half ... their whole system would tumble down and crash OVERNIGHT in 1 HOUR..

but that means the golden egg would hatch and i am not sure what would be released....(the beast)

it would become ...-- -.5.5 .5 . 5 .5 the computer would explode

and seize to 'operate'

gata get through that gate... and split their rock of foundation of their maddening creation

once the time is right... TAKE FLIGHT.. there will be two sides of the coin shown for what they are , working in cahoots. to produce the ones and zeros... ---- of which they connected so many peripherals of control and division

there is ONLY - 1 - ONE.. we are "us" together ONE


we got to knock this NOT out of the picture then things will get CLEARER

the target... 0 right in the center of their operations

... no more symbols or distractions

only light will remain when their night gets destroyed

its like throwing a rock in the pond. at first the pond is FLAT and thought to be one dimensional ... but when the wave hits.. no more control. they won't be able to sit back and relax in their idleness

their whole system is going to fall apart in their art - their false arc

---- its meant to happen, they know this

its destine to fall ... and when it goes they are gunna wanna take you with it

like grabbing on to life preservers for their own survival

... no wonder why they are throwing so many bodies in the water.. so they can keep covered.....to raise the water and at the same time stay afloat



---zero hour - coming to a planet near you


../\
...| there's no where to go but up to break that glass ceiling
~~~breaking the gate chains through the weakest link
...\ /
(x||x) (splitting zero hour from the bottom up) ----
.../ \__up up and away - a way through the gate the open door the window of time that is fading fast, for them, their world is going away when we realize TODAY, that day----<<

"break on through to other side, break on through to other side"

[antinwo]

Is there any thread that Marpat doesn't touch:rolleyes:

[boots]

Extra masts to cover areas with more users? THE SIGNAL has remained the same on all networks within my area since before i took those photos two years ago, so that doesn't add up, coz they are still installing them everywhere.

I have not said any proof exsists, just makes me think, we know they are letting out enough radiation to cause people to contract cancers.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-415758/Mobile-phone-mast-caused-27-deaths-say-residents.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1687491.ece

We know they have the technology to attack just a small part of the population with ultasonic devices.
http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/deterrent_news_14.html

We know that HAARP exists and the poles are not too different, is HAARP not radio frequencies? Oh yeah but that touches on weather manipulation and CHEMTRAILS something which you deny exists, but you have now let more info out of the bag about, what exactly you do for the MoD, so you may also be involved in this type of weather manipulation, knowingly or blindly, would make more sense as to why you are so against the blatant chemtrails they spray, incidently yesterday again i saw one plane SPRAYING and the rest were normal contrails.
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

Theres no hard proof, coz the mobile networks will not fund the research about the mobile radiation and bluetooth dangers to our health. There was a BBC news story about 2 years ago (TAKEN OFF THE NET or i cant find it) which had a load of scientists on it, who said that they had discovered that bluetooth works on a similar frequency to our brainwaves and they are not sure if it's harmful for adults but the group of scientists at the time were trying to rally the government from installing wireless networks in schools as they had discovered it affects kids brains and could be dangerous in later life.

http://www.ultrawidebandplanet.com/technology/article.php/3781436
http://www.emfnews.org/articles/tag/bluetooth-safety/

So if they work on similar frequecnies to brainwaves then even a thick person could work out where i'm coming from, also this which was posted on here earlier in the year.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1841108,00.html

So the technology exists MARPAT.

Bloody good post.

Here in Melbourne 10 people out of 12 contracted brain tumors these guy's worked on the top floor of a building under a major cell phone mast. Hit the news big time here.

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[antinwo]

Bloody good post.

Here in Melbourne 10 people out of 12 contracted brain tumors these guy's worked on the top floor of a building under a major cell phone mast. Hit the news big time here.

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That is awful really feel for those guys. :(

[boots]

OK had the figure wrong there it was 7 of the guys who contracted brain tumors.

Electrical union to ban work near phone masts



By Adam Morton
May 19, 2006

Aent

ELECTRICAL workers will refuse to work on or near operational mobile phone towers in Victoria until safety standards are introduced, fearing exposure to electromagnetic radiation causes cancer.
The Electrical Trades Union ban came as preliminary testing at RMIT University's business school found no evidence that rooftop phone towers caused brain tumours in seven staff since 1999.
While medical experts said there was no proven link between phone towers and cancer, fears rose after it was revealed that tumours were found in staff working on the top floor.
Electrical union state secretary Dean Mighell said there was overseas evidence linking tumours to long-term electromagnetic radiation exposure, whether from high-voltage power lines or phone towers.
"Saying it is inconclusive is not good enough," he said. "It needs to be conclusive that it's safe, and when there is so much evidence saying it's not, we think it is time the telecommunications industry adopts the same standards as the power industry and protects workers and residents."
Mr Mighell urged communications companies to adopt regulations forcing electrical workers to wear protective equipment, carry radiation meters and work on towers for limited periods.
City authorities have sought council control over medium-sized phone towers through planning permits. There are 169 mobile phone network masts in the Melbourne CBD.
RMIT vice-chancellor Margaret Gardner said the university would pay for past and present staff who worked in the building to see an occupational phys-ician.
She said the number of illnesses linked to the building remained at seven, despite more than 150 calls to its medical help line and claims the academics' union knew of a possible death.
"There have been no further cases identified at present but there are undoubtedly people who have come forward and investigations will be under way," she said.
Business staff were told a decision on whether they would be asked to return to work on the top floor of the 17-storey building would not be made until final test results were available early next week.
At least one senior, long-term employee yesterday told a staff meeting he would not work on the top floor again, regardless of the test results.
The university offered to move staff from the top two floors eight days ago after five tumours were discovered in a month, following earlier cases in 1999 and 2001.


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[boots]

Of course the RMIT business school has a vested interest, as they are producing drones for the corporations.

They make me sick:mad:


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[deca]

you should check out CELLDAR and how it use all the E SMOG from these masts to track us
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9729/celldarmc8.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=celldarmc8.jpg)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4299-cellphone-radar-tracks-traffic-flow.html
Cellphone 'radar' tracks traffic flow
09:45 27 October 2003 by James Randerson

Signals from cellphone masts can be used to track aircraft, monitor traffic congestion and spot speeding motorists without tipping them off that they are being watched.

The radar-like system, which is still being developed, has provoked media reports of the start of a huge extension of Big Brother-style surveillance - privacy campaigners have complained that it could be used to track individual people. But radar experts say such fears are unfounded.

Conventional radar works by transmitting a signal, listening for the reflection and using the time taken for the round trip to work out the object's distance. More sophisticated systems can work out the object's speed from characteristic changes to the signal's frequency, known as Doppler shifts. But such radar systems are expensive, and the signals they send out are easy to detect.

An alternative technique, called passive radar, gets round these problems. Instead of broadcasting its own signal, a passive radar system listens in to the cacophony of radio signals in the environment and monitors the way moving objects change them.

The US defence company Lockheed Martin is developing a system called Silent Sentry which exploits the signals from radio and television masts to spot aircraft and ships (New Scientist print edition, 4 December 1999).

Better accuracy
Now two British companies, Hampshire-based Roke Manor Research and the aerospace giant BAe Systems, have done the same thing with signals from cellphone masts. They say their system, known as Celldar, short for cellphone radar, can achieve better accuracy because cellphone masts are far more widespread than television and radio transmitters.

Celldar works out the position of objects in the area by comparing the signals reflected from them with those it receives directly from a base station, whose positions are known. From the Doppler shift in the signal it can also calculate the target object's speed.

Celldar has a number of advantages over conventional radar, says David Salter, a member of the team at Roke Manor Research. "The expensive part in most radar systems is the transmitter, because of the high power requirements." Because Celldar devices do not need their own transmitter, they can be made cheaper, smaller and more portable.

Roke Manor Research is currently testing a prototype system, and says it will be two to three years before a fully operational Celldar goes on sale.

Stealthy shadows
Because the system is passive, drivers will have no way of telling whether they are being monitored. It is this characteristic that makes passive systems so attractive to the military, says David Bebbington, a radar expert at the University of Essex in Colchester, UK.

Another advantage of passive systems is their ability to spot "stealthy" aircraft and ships, which are designed to fool conventional radar systems by absorbing signals or reflecting them away from the source. To passive radar, these objects show up as shadows that can be spotted.

Civil liberties groups are concerned that the system could be adapted or combined with other technologies to produce a device for tracking people. "I can see profoundly worrying aspects to the technology," says Simon Davies, director of Privacy International in London.

A document on Roke Manor Research's own website has fuelled speculation that the technology could be used in this way, stating that it "can detect vehicles and even human beings at militarily useful ranges".

But Bebbington points out that Celldar will be virtually useless for following individuals because its resolution is simply not good enough. And Roke Manor Research now says the information on its website will be removed.

[rjl9332]

nice thread guys. glad to see people noticing this. I point this out to my mates, they've got no idea what im on about, so now i dont bother. However, i've noticed recently on a busy road that a big metal pole was put in the ground, and was swiftly painted to look like a telegraph pole! on the top is a big transmitter just like the ones in town centres. amazing. These ignorant f*cks who go around doing these jobs need some tough love and a bit of education. I have some orgonite now, i dont know if it does much good but i reckon once you're aware of the possibilities of what these towers can do to you it is that much easier to identify false thoughts and artificical negative moods. I've caught myself in the myre a few times recently and pulled myself out :)

F*ck the nwo right in its dumb ass.

[marpat]

Deca, in that post you mention passive radar, etc but then you say it can work out speed by using Doppler. It is hardly a passive system if its using doppler. Doppler uses a transmitter to fire radio pulses and, if I remember correctly, measure the distance by comparing changes in the returning pulses. The degree of change in the pulses is the indicator of the speed.

I cannot see how passive radar even exists. Radar is a system where radio pulses are fired out then a receive listens for the pulse returns and gives distance and bearing. If you are not transmitted then you do not have radar you just have a receiver scanning for radio signal.

Perhaps the people who write those articles dont have a clue what they are talking about.

[keystone]

C'mon guys read. Last para says:

.................that Celldar will be virtually useless for following individuals because its resolution is simply not good enough. And Roke Manor Research now says the information on its website will be removed.

that was in 2003 and 5 years on it's got no further. The company concerned is a research subsidiary of Siemens and you can bet with the teaming arrangements with Big And Expensive that it would have gone ahead if it had worked.

[keystone]

I cannot see how passive radar even exists. Radar is a system where radio pulses are fired out then a receive listens for the pulse returns and gives distance and bearing. If you are not transmitted then you do not have radar you just have a receiver scanning for radio signal.

Perhaps the people who write those articles dont have a clue what they are talking about.Marpat - the type of radar you decribe is termed monostatic where the transmitter and receiver are in the same physical location. Multistatic and bistatic radar systems can be active (separate transmitters and receivers). When passive they detect "transmissions of opportunity" from external sources. A multistatic system would theoretically enable triangulation and thus location measurement - if it worked to the accuracy necessary to make the resultant data usable.

[marpat]

Marpat - the type of radar you decribe is termed monostatic where the transmitter and receiver are in the same physical location. Multistatic and bistatic radar systems can be active (separate transmitters and receivers). When passive they detect "transmissions of opportunity" from external sources. A multistatic system would theoretically enable triangulation and thus location measurement - if it worked to the accuracy necessary to make the resultant data usable.

But something that is passive is only a receiver. A radar transmits radio pulses. What you describe are a set of receivers that are set to the same frequency range in order to detect a specific signal in a specific region. Although what you say makes sense about triangulation the system cannot, to my mind, be described as radar. Deca talks of doppler but this uses a transmitter and has to be emitting a signal to work. I guess it may work if there is a receiver from a doppler radar that is used but again that is just a receiver.

An active system must be one that is transmitting, or emitting a radio signal. Passive indicates that it is receive mode only. Radar waves bouce back at 180 deg from reflected surfaces with some spurious emittions. If the receiver is too far out of alignment it will not pick up a signal.

I dont see how the location of a transmitter to the receiver can determine whether it is a passive or active system. That just doesnt make sense. I have always thought of active systems as ones that emit signals that can be detected while passive ones just receive. That is why the term passive radar doesnt sound right to me.

[drael]

Yup. Mind control. Sure.

[boots]

Yup. Mind control. Sure.

I see you've given it a lot of thought.




Not:rolleyes:

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[keystone]

But something that is passive is only a receiver. A radar transmits radio pulses. What you describe are a set of receivers that are set to the same frequency range in order to detect a specific signal in a specific region. Although what you say makes sense about triangulation the system cannot, to my mind, be described as radar. Deca talks of doppler but this uses a transmitter and has to be emitting a signal to work. I guess it may work if there is a receiver from a doppler radar that is used but again that is just a receiver.

An active system must be one that is transmitting, or emitting a radio signal. Passive indicates that it is receive mode only. Radar waves bouce back at 180 deg from reflected surfaces with some spurious emittions. If the receiver is too far out of alignment it will not pick up a signal.

I dont see how the location of a transmitter to the receiver can determine whether it is a passive or active system. That just doesnt make sense. I have always thought of active systems as ones that emit signals that can be detected while passive ones just receive. That is why the term passive radar doesnt sound right to me.

Sorry - I didn't explain myself properly. You can have active multistatic radar systems and passive multistatic radar systems. Radar is radio detection and ranging irrespective of whether the particular system in question operates actively or passively. Sonar is the same.

[marpat]

Sorry - I didn't explain myself properly. You can have active multistatic radar systems and passive multistatic radar systems. Radar is radio detection and ranging irrespective of whether the particular system in question operates actively or passively. Sonar is the same.

I am familiar with radar as I work on one and was taught the principle of it during training. The way you describe that system though blurs the definition between a recevier and a radar. Radar wil tell you the distance by firing a pulse and then making a range calculation based on the time to receiving the return signal as the radar pulse travels at the speed of light, which is a known value. Obviously this can not be done with the system you mention. Radio triangulation, which sounds like what you describe, is a very old technique where several receivers listen for signal. They will receive the highest radio spike from a particular direction and the bearing given by seperate systems will pinpoint the source location. If this was fully automated then I could see no reason why a moving target could not be tracked. If you have several receiver pin pointing the location of the target then why do does it need to calculate the range? personally I would think the best way would be to have the seperate feeds linked into GPS then use that to reveal the position.

[keystone]

I am familiar with radar as I work on one and was taught the principle of it during training. The way you describe that system though blurs the definition between a recevier and a radar. Radar wil tell you the distance by firing a pulse and then making a range calculation based on the time to receiving the return signal as the radar pulse travels at the speed of light, which is a known value. Obviously this can not be done with the system you mention. Radio triangulation, which sounds like what you describe, is a very old technique where several receivers listen for signal. They will receive the highest radio spike from a particular direction and the bearing given by seperate systems will pinpoint the source location. If this was fully automated then I could see no reason why a moving target could not be tracked. If you have several receiver pin pointing the location of the target then why do does it need to calculate the range? personally I would think the best way would be to have the seperate feeds linked into GPS then use that to reveal the position.

Yes but you are only describing a fairly standard pulse radar like nav a radar. There are other types as well such as CW but these cannot measure range. Therefore doppler or FM techniques are used with them. I was in the industry as a user then as a supplier for, well for more years than I'm prepared to admit. A bistatic radar CAN be passive. If you get the chance have aboo at http://tv.theiet.org/technology/communications/219.cfm

[marpat]

Yes but you are only describing a fairly standard pulse radar like nav a radar. There are other types as well such as CW but these cannot measure range. Therefore doppler or FM techniques are used with them. I was in the industry as a user then as a supplier for, well for more years than I'm prepared to admit. A bistatic radar CAN be passive. If you get the chance have aboo at http://tv.theiet.org/technology/communications/219.cfm


I know what CW is because I have worked on one. Doppler measures distance by comparing phase changes in the reflected pulse. I covered this during my training.

It is the TERMINOLOGY that is weird to me not the application. To me a radar transmits a pulse then receives that pulse. A radar can pick up other radiation even if not transmitting if the frequency is within the receivers range, therefore you can leave the transmitter turned off and still receiver signals as long as something is trasmitting on that frequency but to me this is not full radar operation, just receive only. I guess the receiver on a doppler radar could make the calculations.

I will look at the link provided.

[marpat]

Keystone

I have looked it up. It is dependent upon the target being illuminated by a non cooperative source. Well I agree this is perfectly valid but shows what I have been saying, that a transmitting source is still required, whether part of the system or not.

You said the transmitter and receiver do not need to be together, which gives the impression of a single system with seperated components but the stuff I have just read indicated that the transmitter and receiver are two completely seperate systems. Essentially what you have are an array of receivers tuned to a specific frequency range that receive reflections from independat illuminating sources.

With regard to other posts in the thread I cannot see how this could be used to track people as if they stood still they would give the same signal as a static object, plus all the interference from ground and object reflections that would need to be processed out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_radar

[deca]

Perhaps the people who write those articles dont have a clue what they are talking about.


I think these people know a bit about radar, after all they are the third largest militray complex, and tuned in Haarp !!!!!!

http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2002/press_230720026.html
BAE SYSTEMS and Roke Manor Research team to develop revolutionary cellphone radar23 Jul 2002


BAE Systems and Roke Manor Research are teaming to develop in depth the concept of CELLphone raDAR - CELLDARTM - to provide a revolutionary, totally covert and innovative approach to the detection of moving air, land and sea-based objects, maturing a technology which will significantly enhance military capabilities such as air warfare, littoral operations and Homeland Defense.

The two companies have signed an agreement to fund the development of the technology, already successfully demonstrated by Roke Manor Research, exploiting the latter's in-depth knowledge of cellphone technology through its pivotal role within Siemens, a world leader in this market place, in enabling R&D. The BAE Systems Future Systems, C4ISR and other business units will be contributing their defence domain knowledge and systems integration expertise.

CELLDARTM uses extended multi-static radar detection and data processing for the tracking, identification and cueing of objects moving in cellphone fields. The massive world-wide investment in cellphone technology and the ability to exploit the extensive electromagnetic transmission fields created to support them presents the opportunity for CELLDAR to offer high-performance, long-range, low-cost detection of objects moving in space in real time to user communities.

The capability of the technology extends across all domains and will be a key enabler in future Command & Control, Communications, Computing, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (C4ISR) solutions. It encompasses - for instance - the detection of moving vehicles or helicopters in foliage; of small maritime objects, such as periscopes; and other targets.

CELLDARTM utilises the radar frequencies associated with current mobile telephone transmissions (GSM 900, 1800 and 1900) and future transmissions (3G).

This partnership complements earlier initiatives to combine the skills of these two world-class companies. These resulted in the SAMPSON active phased array, multi-function radar (selected for the Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyer) and the HALO artillery location system now in service with the British Army and being supplied into the export market.


About Roke Manor Research:

Roke Manor Research is an independent research and development business owned by Siemens. Based in the UK and employing 500 people, it has been responsible for some of the most innovative technological advances in mobile communications, electronic sensors and defence work over the past thirty years. Roke Manor Research offers its clients a competitive edge by applying world-class talent and experience to create innovative and timely solutions to their commercial development needs.


About BAE SYSTEMS:

BAE Systems is a systems company, innovating for a safer world. BAE Systems employs nearly 100,000 people including Joint Ventures, and has annual sales of around 13 billion. The company offers a global capability in air, sea, land and space with a world-class prime contracting ability supported by a range of key skills. BAE Systems designs, manufactures and supports military aircraft, surface ships, submarines, space systems, radar, avionics, communications, electronics, guided weapon systems and a range of other defence products. BAE Systems is dedicated to making the intelligent connections needed to deliver innovative solutions.

BAE Systems Future Systemsidentifies, assesses and - in some cases - develops new concepts and opportunities from their earliest stages. When these reach sufficient maturity, they are transitioned elsewhere within the company for further development.

BAE Systems C4ISR is a global centre of excellence supplying innovative, network enhanced solutions focused on military capability. It employs proven systems integration skills to transfer advanced civil and military technologies into robust, single-service and tri-service information management environments. C4ISR optimises the operational effectiveness of command & control and platforms within the digitized battlespace, providing flexible architectures to support fast decision-making.

[marpat]

Deca I think your about three steps behind. I did say that the terminology was catching me out. Although it is called passive I did argue that a radar is still dependent upon an illuminating sources and as your article shows this is true. It is only considered passive because the receiver and the transmitter are not co-operating although for it to work you still need and active transmitter.

I can see how it would work but so what? has this anything to do with mind control?

[deca]

because they can "target" you with Microwave hearing which is based on RADAR

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dc64d9q2_0fc6mf8g8

Technological Status of Generator/Aiming Device




This technology requires no extrapolation of estimate its usefulness Microwave energy

can be applied at a distance,and the appropriate technology can be adapted from existing

radar units. Aiming devices likewise are available but for special circumstances which

require extreme specificity, there may be a need for additional development Extreme

directional specificity would be required to transmit a message to a single hostage

surrounded by his captors. Signals can be transmitted long distance(hundred of meters)

using current technology Longer distances and mores sophisticated signal types will

require more bulky equipment but it seems possible to transmit some type of signals at

closer ranges using man-potable equipment.

[marpat]

because they can "target" you with Microwave hearing which is based on RADAR

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dc64d9q2_0fc6mf8g8

So not only would you need all these radars to pick you up you would also need directional emitters to attack people. If you are in a built up area there would be hundreds of blind spots for such things unless they were absolutely everywhere, which is why I think such ideas play on people fears rather than being based on practical application.

Do you know of anybody who gets targtetted in such a way?

Also, this thread is about mind control but I cant recall anybody explaning how these masts relate to mind control.

[deca]

I am mind control & electronic harrassment victim.

Microwave hearing is based on pulsed microwaves, The tetra mast system looks dodgie to say the least, pulse when you pair it with CELLDAR you start to wounder whats going on.
Un less you are Here to re assure thats every thing is fine and dandy and anybody thinks the different is mentally ill.
http://www.tetrawatch.net/tetra/pulse.php

2006 Update

Around the UK people watch the TETRA signal. Some do it with expensive instruments, analysing the frequencies and producing images such as those shown here. Others just listen, and hear various changes from time to time. But some tell us when the local TETRA signal characteristics change because they physically feel it, and the feelings change.

TETRAWatch counts all these as valid observations, and when they coincide, tries to make sense.

What disturbs us most is that the signal characteristics are modified as a kind of experiment. And we know that this is unethical, because we proposed a live comparison to prove people could feel these transmissions years ago, and were told it could not be allowed as an experiment on human subjects without total consent.

Has anyone asked you recently if you would like to take part? Because O2 Airwave naturally monitors this website regularly, perhaps looking for an opportunity for libel, damage to their business – or perhaps as a sounding board for what response there is to changes in the TETRA signal.

Recently, at least in some areas, the primary extreme low frequency (ELF) about which there has been most fuss (‘the pulse’) has been masked out with noise. So for some people, the picture below with the gaps in it no longer holds true. What we would like to know, is what technical advantage this confers: clearer voice? More data? Less TV interference (how kind!)? No. So why has this been done? Just one of those upgrades that happens to have this effect?

If anyone from O2 would like to tell us, please do. We don’t like mysteries, and we have no wish to portray O2 as experimenting unnecesasarily on the people of this country. But O2 does need to know that for some people, this has made matters worse.

One explanation is that by reducing the bio-active ELF components, those remaining stand out even more clearly and become more bio-active for those who are sensitive. Another is that the signal power needs to be higher.

Let’s be clear. For anyone suffering more than the inconvenience of TV interference, the specific health concerns around what is referred to as the pulsed radiation of TETRA, and in particular its frequency, are what matter most.

Many people suffer adverse health reactions as soon as their local masts are switched on. Whether you are suffering or not, they need your help, understanding, and action. This is a national scandal, and your inaction could mean, at worst and from long-term chronic exposure, the deaths of many people. We look back at tobacco, asbestos, Thalidomide, CJD, and we can all remember the early denials, the research, the arguments, before finally action was taken. Many people had died, many more were disabled, and financial claims on the dogmatic perpetrators have run into many millions.

We do not want to be sensationalist. But there is enough research to suggest that extreme caution must be exercisd before TETRA is implemented, not after. Every time a piece of research suggests risk, the call goes out for ‘more research’. Not a pause; not precaution; more research, while the effects continue to be felt.

TETRA and ‘pulsing’
The signal from base stations and handsets is carried on a microwave frequency at 380 to 400MHz. If that, like commercial mobile phones and masts concerns you, then this is no different at that level. Except that 400Mhz is more penetrative than the 900MHz to 2GHz of mobile phones, and is the resonant frequency of an average adult skull.

The signal or message is imprinted on this carrier wave in compressed bursts. Each TETRA handset sends these bursts out 17.64 times a second (Hz). The burst is so short that three other handset signals can slot in around it to form a group of four, so the masts can receive and transmit four bursts for every one that each handset produces. This group is called a ‘frame’, and the frames themselves are grouped in 18s (multi-frames) with a break at zero power. TETRA fills up empty slots, so even if four handsets are not in communication, the same pattern continues. Therefore TETRA masts pulse at 70.56Hz (4 x 17.64). However, in this pattern the first and last pulses are not separated, so there is a steady rhythm ‘di-di-dah-di-di-dah’, 17.64 times a second. The music of TETRA? Our bodies recognise patterns and rhythms and frequencies exceptionally well: this is not raw energy, it is information to us, interfering with our own informational bioelectromagnetic systems.

This picture below is the official picture from NRPB and AGNIR documentation, which has been verified by our own measurements:



TETRA masts therefore have components at 70Hz (slots), 17.64Hz (frames) and 0.98Hz (the multiframe group). All three are in themselves ELF (extremely low frequency) EMR (electromagnetic radiation), and ELF EMR is particularly regarded as presenting a risk to people. Our own bodies operate in everything they do, utilising infinitessimally small electric currents at these frequencies, but they have to vary. ‘Locking onto’ fixed frequencies happens through entrainment (the stronger pulse drags the weaker into synch) and this is harmful. (As a metaphor, you can ride a bicycle down the white line in teh middle of the road, but ride in a tramline and you fall off.) Specifically, TETRA multiframes coincide with the electrical frequency of the heart, and the 17.64Hz frames (or handset pulses) with beta brain frequencies (13Hz to 40Hz). And the 70.56Hz pulse is a muscular electrical frequency.

Ground waves
Tetrawatch has learned that TETRA base station installations (not the signal in the antennae) also create a strong ground wave at 16.66Hz. This is not something Ofcom will come to measure, because it’s not in the handbook. Interestingly, 16.66Hz is the power frequency also used by Swiss and a number of other European railways, and reports show the railway workers have a high risk of leukemia and brain cancer, and exhibit reduced melatonin levels. Tetrawatch wonders if these ground waves play any role in the phenomenon of the TETRA lines.

More importantly, TETRA is the one and only mobile system that runs at full power 24 hours a day, every day. If there are any resonant effects in the body, they will build. (Resonance? Everything has its own natural frequency and ‘rings’: the glass shatters when an opera singer hits the right note; a building falls if an earthqualke frequency matches it. The same is true for the whole body, and down to cell and molecular level. This is why it is frequency, more than power, that concerns us: hit the right note and very small force has a very great effect.)

The frequency of powerlines at 50 and 60Hz is regarded as one reason why they are correlated worldwide with cancer clusters, and 70Hz is the frequency used by TENS pain relief devices to interfere with nerve impulses. Further, whether TETRA signals when picked up in mains wiring results in an interference frequency of 20Hz (70 – 50, also in the beta brain frequency range) is yet to be tested. Finally, frequencies close to 16Hz have been found specifically to cause calcium, a key part of cell communication, to leak from brain cells. This was the reason the Stewart Report (2000) urged the frequency to be avoided.





Why do the NRPB (and therefore the Home Office) say TETRA masts do not pulse?
Imagine a bungee jumper. Go on, it might not be your thing, but just imagine it! Off they go from the bridge, down into the gorge. The line goes tight, stretches and the jumper’s head almost touches the water in the river beneath. Scary. Up they come again towards the bridge, the line goes slack and snakes, before down they go again, back towards the river, the line goes taught, stretches, and up they come again. When eventually they come to rest, they are hanging somewhere half way down. Now if you think about it, that is where they have been on average all the time. They could have just stayed there (I would prefer that method of bungee jumping!), but it really would not have been the same to them, or to people watching. Like the NRPB, I don’t like to watch the ups and downs; I like to think it’s no more dangerous than hanging half way, on average.

That is what NRPB concludes: because the TETRA signal in the picture above is on average at the 10 mark, the changes from ‘ups and downs’ to hanging half way are not pulsed effects, and no one can possibly notice.

The technical term for this splitting up of messages is TDMA (Time Division Multiple Access). It is the way TETRA works, and it is only one of several ways in which communications can be efficiently managed. Home Office material on their website (see Links:Government) denies that there is any pulsing, on the grounds that there is not absolute silence betwen the bursts, and this is widely quoted. O2 still describe the pulse frequency as ‘trivial’, and quote Prof Challis insisting that the signal is not pulsed at all. O2 also say that you can only tell that it is pulsing (sorry, contradiction?) with very sensitive demodulating equipment (see our examples taken at Worthing and East Marden). Two recent planning applications in the New Forest state clearly in the specification ‘Modulation: Pulsed’.


This is what a TETRA base station sounds like, compared with other mobile base stations. The sound is achieved by simple rectification and audio amplification of the RF signal, like a basic crystal set.

Pulsing radio waves at extremely low frequencies is used to therapeutic effect. It helps mend bones, among other things. But like X-rays, it can’t be used indiscriminately. When the ‘TETRA experts’ say that pulsing can’t affect us, this is quite untrue. The guidelines from ICNIRP (ie, the standards for safe levels of transmissions) have no relationship at all with the effects of pulsed radiation, and are wholly inadequate. (See also intensity.) What is astounding is that whilst we are told constantly (and falsely) that it’s OK, base stations don’t pulse, everyone agrees that police handsets do! Is that OK?

Find out more about pulsing from our Links page.

[deca]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwh_CahFdDU

Check out Dr Persinger (5mins into clip) this was I think made in 1998

[deca]

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/CELL.html

THE TRUTH ABOUT CELL TOWERS
Cell Towers are popping up in everyone's backyard these days. And most of us fail to realize the dangers involved in having these monsters looming over our neighborhoods or even strategically placed atop our schools, churches or apartment buildings. Having a mobile phone - and the risks of using one - is an individual choice. What is NOT an individual choice is whether a mobile phone tower - with all of it's health risks - is placed in your neighborhood. A 2004 German government study found that people living within 1300 feet of cell towers had THREE TIMES the normal cancer risk. A French medical study of people living within 1,000 feet of cell towers documented an unusually high level of complaints of extreme fatigue, memory loss, headaches, sleep disorders, depression, skin problems, hearing loss and cardiovascular problems. A resolution by the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF) opposed commercial cell towers on fire stations after a medical study showed increased cancer, brain and nerve problems for irradiated personnel.
We are dealing with the issue of pure greed on the part of these wireless companies. They care NOTHING about the dangerous health effects on people living near these towers of doom. Telecom providers are not required by law to consider health effects in their siting proposals thanks to our sellout traitorous politicians. The Telecom Act of 1996 prevents local planning authorities from prohibiting cell tower construction on the basis of health considerations. Thanks to this corrupt unconstitutional federal law, city planners are obligated to rubber stamp whatever facilities wireless providers say they need for ‘essential’ services. Do we need to sacrifice our health for the convenience of cell phone users, and for the billion dollar corporations that get rich at our expense? Despite all of this, you still have SOME rights concerning the placement of these towers, such as finding the owners of the property on which these towers are located, and letting them and everyone concerned know that you oppose what they are doing, and explaining why. Get to know what these towers look like, and the chances are you won't have to look very far to find one. And don't let that funny looking tree fool you, its actually a poorly disguised cell tower. Those tubular objects on the side of your apartment building or office near the roof? That strange looking smokestack recently placed on top of your building? More cell towers. Microwave radiation from cell towers can pass easily through walls, windows and roofs.


Let's think about it, if these carriers say there is no danger from these towers, then why would they assemble a tower in less than 2 hours, and then run like a thief in the night? Why would they try to hide them? The way we see it the "get in - get out - and hide" method limits exposure to the public eye, thus creating less publicity for these unsightly and dangerous menaces surrounding us. Time and time again the stories unfold with the same dire circumstances, someone is diagnosed with leukemia, and someone is left pondering the idea as to whether there are any other people in the area diagnosed with the same condition. And with a little investigation, they discover multiple cases of leukemia and cancer in the surrounding area. And all within a mile of one of these cellular towers or a power substation. Educate others on the dangers of cellular towers, and what they can do to prevent them from becoming a part of their backyard, affecting their health, and their way of life!
Wi-Fi systems essentially take small versions of cell phone masts and puts them into the home and classroom - they emit much the same kind of radiation. Though virtually no research has been carried out, campaigners and scientists expect them to cause similar ill-effects from the radiation. We are all now living in a soup of electromagnetic radiation one billion times stronger than the natural fields which our living cells were designed for. This could cause a medical catastrophe in the near future.

Apart from the devastating health effects of cell towers, the day is now approaching in which government mind control technologies will be directed at you, your neighbors, and your loved ones. Every single day, equipment is being erected and installed in this country with the hidden purpose of exerting mind control over the entire population. Everywhere in this country, ELF/microwave transmission (cell phone) towers are being erected. The antennae usually look like four slightly curved vertical plates about 2 to 4 feet in length and located in either 3 or 4 quadrants around the tower, roof, or chimney. Just look around and you'll see them. And you'll also notice more of them going up once you begin to pay attention. No one is saying anything, but you're expected to presume that they're for cell phones. Do you really think that we need that much 'cell phone' transmission capability? Hardly. These mind control technologies have been in place for a long time. It's not an accident that the frequency band chosen for cell phone use just happens to match the second order waves that Wilhelm Reich discovered in the late 1940's to effect thought transmission and allow the mind to be manipulated without the victim realizing it. Reich worked on this project secretly for the CIA for over 5 years, from 1947-1952, until he realized who the CIA was planning to use the mind control on - the American people. He was outraged that he was deceived and used for such a devious motive and swore never to cooperate with the CIA ,NSA, or FDA again.


Reich was murdered in Federal prison in 1957, just a few weeks before he was due to be released, having been in prison for 2 years on a false, trumped up charge of contempt of court. The mind control effects of these transmission frequencies can vary from bringing on sedation, nausea, or emotional and mental confusion. Behind the proliferation of cell phones being hyped upon us, despite their health dangers, there is a hidden motive. And with the rapid proliferation of ELF transmission towers, that motive is abundantly clear. Mass mind control of the population, and the destruction of our health in the process. These microwave emissions from phone masts may become the biggest singular cause of human suffering, and possible premature death, in the years to come.

[antinwo]

Thanks for info Decca it's not looking good is it. My friend has one right near his house and it is disguised as a lamppost:mad:

[marpat]

So what do you hear when you are harrassed?

Have you ever tried to pick up these pulses with a radio scanner? because hearing only occurs within a limited range you could actually build a primitive scanner to pick up such signals.

It really proves nothing of your story by posting pages of material on cutting edge technology. It does not mean it is being used against you just that it exists.

Why would you be harrassed?

So if these masts cover the entire country with such signal then surely the government will also be under the influence. It would not be possible to give blanket coverage over the whole country but make a small group immune would it.

Have you any experience of radiation and working with it? I do, I work on very powerful radar and although there are risks these are easily managed. I do know that you cannot just stick a mast somewhere without having frequency clearance, etc. All emitters have a radiation hazard zone and the masts will have to be placed so that the public will be outside of that, either by putting them in places that you cannot easily get to or putting them higher up. If you want to tell people about radiation poisoning then you will have to get some evidence that a mast is placed so that people are moving within its hazard area. Perhaps some evidence of the power of these masts and what their radiation zones are would be helpful.

[abaddon]

cheers for the link, Deca.

We are all now living in a soup of electromagnetic radiation one billion times stronger than the natural fields which our living cells were designed for. This could cause a medical catastrophe in the near future.



Immediate Problem.

[deca]

So what do you hear when you are harrassed?

Have you ever tried to pick up these pulses with a radio scanner? because hearing only occurs within a limited range you could actually build a primitive scanner to pick up such signals.

It really proves nothing of your story by posting pages of material on cutting edge technology. It does not mean it is being used against you just that it exists.

Why would you be harrassed?

So if these masts cover the entire country with such signal then surely the government will also be under the influence. It would not be possible to give blanket coverage over the whole country but make a small group immune would it.

Have you any experience of radiation and working with it? I do, I work on very powerful radar and although there are risks these are easily managed. I do know that you cannot just stick a mast somewhere without having frequency clearance, etc. All emitters have a radiation hazard zone and the masts will have to be placed so that the public will be outside of that, either by putting them in places that you cannot easily get to or putting them higher up. If you want to tell people about radiation poisoning then you will have to get some evidence that a mast is placed so that people are moving within its hazard area. Perhaps some evidence of the power of these masts and what their radiation zones are would be helpful.

My ELF detector
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=STbiorVBqsM

more videos here
http://uk.youtube.com/user/deca90

body voltage
http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/Surveys/surveys.htm
Body Voltage Measurements shows how much a human body is electrically “charged”, if an electric field is present. A human body has the tendency to absorb electric fields, because it consists mainly of water, therefore it is vital to detect the source and take action to eliminate it. Body voltage is the amount of AC voltage your body absorbs from the presence of an electric field.

body voltage video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Gurqsibz6LA

This effects my ability to earn money and expose this, I can`t afford better equipment

[marpat]

My ELF detector
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=STbiorVBqsM

more videos here
http://uk.youtube.com/user/deca90

body voltage
http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/Surveys/surveys.htm

body voltage video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Gurqsibz6LA

This effects my ability to earn money and expose this, I can`t afford better equipment

Body voltage???? at work I have put an oscilloscope probe on my finger and measured a small AC voltage but it would seem natural due to the body having some form of electrical activity going on.

What are you trying to measure with that meter? it has no power reading on it. It is possible that anything measured could be in the local environment rather than directed at you. I have a gaussometer and this doesnt really pick much up unless you are very close to a magnetic field. Finding electrical field in a modern place is not going to be hard. The fact is that if you sit in front of your PC you are exposed to such fields.

Although you are managing to take some form of reading what does it represent? this is the million dollar question. You need to know what that energy is for or produced by.

[deca]

Building Biology Biological Risk Ratings for Sleeping Spaces

Ideal Under 10 mV

Weak 10 to 100

Strong mV 100 to 1000 mV

Extreme Over 1000 mV


In my video with the electric turned of at the mains so no pc or other Electrical devices on and emitting EMF it was 300mv which is a Stong by there standards
I have had readings of over 1000 mv often and have a graph and data on my mind control and electronic harrasment thread
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617&page=109

What I am to do.

I say I have microwave hearing , I get told they are audio Hallucination (psychiatrist don`t now ware/or can explian audio hallucinations )

I video strange ELF readings in my home and send them to the HPA(Health Protection Agency's) they write back and say its my home electrics and anyway they under safty levals and dont do home surveys

I get high body voltage readings.

Obvisly its to easy to disprove my satement too easy to class it as mental illness with out some type of proof.

I am not the only victim
couple hundred other victims storys
http://mindcontrolvictim.blogspot.com/

[deca]

here is a PDF that shows how to take your body voltage

http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/Manuals/BV_Home_Measuring%20Instructions.pdf

You don`t need to buy a kit, you can easily make the cables yourself!!!!
all you need is a suitable muiltymeter (from around £20)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/949/bvmt4.png (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bvmt4.png)

[marpat]

I work in an electronics workshop ans can get access to such stuff. I did measure some AC just by putting an oscilloscope probe on my finger.

With regard to you readings with the mains off, are there any power cable near your house or other objects that could be giving off some EMF.

[deca]

With regard to you readings with the mains off, are there any power cable near your house or other objects that could be giving off some EMF.


I have told you I am mind control & electronic harrassment victim my mind and body is being hacked and harrassed!!!!!!! but I must be wrong,mistaken or lying there has to be a more "pulsable" reason for these readings

there is no other high power cables around or phone masts, I do live in the top corner flat of a 4 flat building 2 ground and 2 upper flats, The bedrom that I took the readings the Left hand side where my bed is ,is an outside wall, so if you what to blame the "electrics" it would have to come from the downstairs flat, the nearist circut would be from the lighting one, remember I shoot this in daytime so probadly the light was not on. The electrics main power in comes from the front of the house!!!!!

[beldazar]

Hey Deca, marpet isnt worth arguing with ;)

[marpat]

Hey Deca, marpet isnt worth arguing with ;)


What? I was just asking if there could be any other obvious magnetic fields. What has that got to do with you anyway?

Deca, I am not saying you are a liar but I always think it is best to eliminate the obvious things before looking at the non-obvious. How do you know you are such a victim though?

[beldazar]

;)

[antinwo]

Marpat always has to interupt a good debate with his conspiracy theories;)

[largejack]

Marpat listen to Alex Jones here:

http://www.infowars.com/

You never know, you might learn a thing or two, and better still, he's not from Teesside :)

[marpat]

Marpat listen to Alex Jones here:

http://www.infowars.com/

You never know, you might learn a thing or two, and better still, he's not from Teesside :)

Another bit of your programming there is it?

Makes me laught though, if I accept these theories without batting an eyelid I would be classed as awake and and a truthseeker but because I am a bit more cautious with my beliefs I am called many silly things.

It seems to me that asking questions doesnt matter but believing what everybody else does matter. If I question things until there are no questions left will I not arrive at the truth?

[deca]

Well the V2K(voice to skull) or microwave hearing is a big give away marpat . I was 33 years old when this started with no history of mental illness. It is not may internal voice or reflects my beliefs, also when they shout and can cringe and my inner ear bones vibrate!!!!

also there other body manipulation , pains ect.....

I am in no daubt. But as these things happen internal they are a bit of a bastard to prove to a third party!!!!.



Also what I have experienced checks out with other victims !!!!

and don`t hit me with "why me" trap

you may as well ask the lotery winner the same question "why you win" not the millions of others he probaly come up with some story ? on how he chose the numbers.

[marpat]

Well the V2K(voice to skull) or microwave hearing is a big give away marpat . I was 33 years old when this started with no history of mental illness. It is not may internal voice or reflects my beliefs, also when they shout and can cringe and my inner ear bones vibrate!!!!

also there other body manipulation , pains ect.....

I am in no daubt. But as these things happen internal they are a bit of a bastard to prove to a third party!!!!.



Also what I have experienced checks out with other victims !!!!

and don`t hit me with "why me" trap

you may as well ask the lotery winner the same question "why you win" not the millions of others he probaly come up with some story ? on how he chose the numbers.


Why is asking 'why you' a trap question. The difference with a lottery winner is that is a game of chance but to target somebody with a specific agenda of harrassment with no reason is not really in the same category, especially when there must be people who would actually make good targets or who it would be beneficial to harrass. Obviously they dont harrass you enough to stop you posting material on the internet with all their high tech equipment. What could stop such people intercepting your internet connection and then doctoring the material you post?

As for people who claim the same problem, that means nothing. Dont take this as an attack but only as an example, if 100 people are deluded that does not make a truth does it? not even if there were 10,000.

Although you claim such things are hard to prove to a third party they must be the product of a certain modulated radio frequency . All that would be required is to set up a scanner or receiver to pick up this frequency. A bit of trial and error might be needed but at least it would be worth the effort.

Not having a history of mental illness does not mean that you are immune from it. A life change could occur that would resemble mental illness.

[antinwo]

:rolleyes:

[marpat]

:rolleyes:

If you cannot add something then why bother putting your stupid little smileys in the thread. It is clear that you cannot contribute.

[beldazar]

R.O.F.L ! :D

Sorry Marpat, I just found that really funny...:D

[rjl9332]

If I question things until there are no questions left will I not arrive at the truth?

No, you will not. The truth cannot be given to you, it must be realised. I would suggest you start to answer your own questions MARPAT, and stop trying to get others to do it for you.

[marpat]

No, you will not. The truth cannot be given to you, it must be realised. I would suggest you start to answer your own questions MARPAT, and stop trying to get others to do it for you.

Stop talking shit. Can you contribute to the debate?

Some truth can only be realised within many things can be realised by questions. If you asked questions you might actually understand the process instead of trying to go all new-age.

Anyway, this thread is about mind control masts and I was discussing issues with Deca until some biffs decided to derail the matter.

[rjl9332]

I can contribute, mine would be along the lines of the people on this forum who do not use deductive questioning. If you are asking my opinion then yes, there is an unprecedented increase in tetra masts being erected all over this and every other commonwealth country, and yes they use a frequency just outside the human brainwave, and yes, the state is paying upwards of 20k / p.a to sites agreeing to their stationing on their land. However as I said previously, the truth cannot be given to you, ever. It is always a realisation, i.e your own truth. If you allow others to answer your questions Marpat then you yourself are but the sum of other peoples' responses. I do not understand 'new age'. I would appreciate you wording your responses with respect in future, thankyou.

[marpat]

I can contribute, mine would be along the lines of the people on this forum who do not use deductive questioning. If you are asking my opinion then yes, there is an unprecedented increase in tetra masts being erected all over this and every other commonwealth country, and yes they use a frequency just outside the human brainwave, and yes, the state is paying upwards of 20k / p.a to sites agreeing to their stationing on their land. However as I said previously, the truth cannot be given to you, ever. It is always a realisation, i.e your own truth. If you allow others to answer your questions Marpat then you yourself are but the sum of other peoples' responses. I do not understand 'new age'. I would appreciate you wording your responses with respect in future, thankyou.


I guess the lack of deductive question would be where you rely on 'intuition' and 'feelings' to tell you the right answer. You will get respect when I feel you deserve it.

[deca]

Why is asking 'why you' a trap question. The difference with a lottery winner is that is a game of chance but to target somebody with a specific agenda of harrassment with no reason is not really in the same category

I did not volunteer or gamble , somebody else did this to me, for there need not mine, I don`t know the real reason, I can only make an educated guess.I am not going to fall and come up with some kind of "motive" based on something in my life, I seen too many other TI`s come up with some kind of story why they a personally been targeted?, I think it distarcks from they real questions.
I personal think I just possiblely that I have been plucked as a suitable canidate low risk....my sister was involved in a hit and run and ended up with head injuries and now class as schizophrenic . How the mental health see this is if there is "mental health" in your family that you are more likly to suffer from "mental health" so they would look at that and ignore what I said if I started talking about this.
They are using peoples belief of mental health to cover this up, A lot of what they do is make as sound and act like "mentally ill" , Think its easy from them to stop any investagtion, by ridiculing us or saying we are parnoid and mentally ill, they have "plusable deniablility".Remember us target are the ones in plain view if we look and fit being "mentally ill" who is going to take are cliams seariouly?
please remamber I suffer a bit from Dyslexia and before this happen I spent my time playing online games and downloading stuff not writing on forums, I only now do because I have too.

[rjl9332]

You will get respect when I feel you deserve it.

I do not need your respect Marpat.
Deductive questioning will only get you so far and no further.

[antinwo]

If you cannot add something then why bother putting your stupid little smileys in the thread. It is clear that you cannot contribute.

I have contributed many times but I just wonder why you waste so much time on this forum when you clearly are not into our supposed conspiracy theories

[antinwo]

Back on subject :D, why do they need to hide these masts if they are so safe? There has been another one erected right near my dads house with a lampost attached to it to disguse it:mad:

[antinwo]

R.O.F.L ! :D

Sorry Marpat, I just found that really funny...:D

Glad you find my smily posts so funny;)

[marpat]

So lets get back to the topic. Somebody put up pics of masts and has asked if they are mind control masts. I think that is bollocks but some people think its valid.

I will be frank, I think deca is actually imagining the situation he is in and all the stuff he finds on the web just feeds his state of mind. Nothing personal but thats how it looks.

[antinwo]

So lets get back to the topic. Somebody put up pics of masts and has asked if they are mind control masts. I think that is bollocks but some people think its valid.

I will be frank, I think deca is actually imagining the situation he is in and all the stuff he finds on the web just feeds his state of mind. Nothing personal but thats how it looks.

Ok why do you think there is a need for so many masts then and why do you think they are placed in people's streets disgused as lamposts, on top of hospitals and near children's schools ect and why do they hide them if they are so safe? It all seems strange to me.

[marpat]

Ok why do you think there is a need for so many masts then and why do you think they are placed in people's streets disgused as lamposts, on top of hospitals and near children's schools ect and why do they hide them if they are so safe? It all seems strange to me.

Just to blend them into normal life. I have seen masts that are meant to look like trees so they dont ruin the countryside. There are antenna in some petrol station signs, etc. It is not secret. It has even been reported in the MSM so its hardly top secret. Why do people alwasy try to make it sound like the children are targetted. I feel that such comments are made to get either a guilt or fear response.

Why are they growing in number? to match the public demand.

Do you think they can control your mind and if so then how? how would people running the show be immune when they are made of the same physical substances as the rest of us?

[antinwo]

Just to blend them into normal life. I have seen masts that are meant to look like trees so they dont ruin the countryside. There are antenna in some petrol station signs, etc. It is not secret. It has even been reported in the MSM so its hardly top secret. Why do people alwasy try to make it sound like the children are targetted. I feel that such comments are made to get either a guilt or fear response.

Why are they growing in number? to match the public demand.

Do you think they can control your mind and if so then how? how would people running the show be immune when they are made of the same physical substances as the rest of us?

So you believe that they are disguised to make them look more attractive maybe?? Did people have less mobile phones in the 80's?? Cos they seemed to work effectively without masts? I know there have been reports of the masts causing cancer ect especially for people living in close proximity of the masts. I have heard of mind control via mobile phone masts but not completely sure if this is true or not. Overhead pylons are supposedly as dangerous as mobile phone masts so surely it cannot be good to have one near ones house, near schools or on top of storey flats if they are so dangerous?

[marpat]

So you believe that they are disguised to make them look more attractive maybe?? Did people have less mobile phones in the 80's?? Cos they seemed to work effectively without masts? I know there have been reports of the masts causing cancer ect especially for people living in close proximity of the masts. I have heard of mind control via mobile phone masts but not completely sure if this is true or not. Overhead pylons are supposedly as dangerous as mobile phone masts so surely it cannot be good to have one near ones house, near schools or on top of storey flats if they are so dangerous?

All antenna have danger areas and they have to be sited so that people will not stray into these zones. I know such things from work.

Yes they do look better. Would you prefer masts stuck in the trees that look ugly or ones that imitate trees? Athetics is an important thing.

The fact is that you are surrounded by magnetic fields everywhere, even in your own home. You cannot escape from them unless you go to remote areas. Even your pc is emitting a magnetic field. Did you know that such fields can be read by people with the correct equipment? they can reproduce what is on your computer screen from such magnetic fields.

Perhaps a direct way to influence people is to make the magnetic fields of their pc change as they will be sitting within that field. Maybe something could be done to the refresh rate on your monitor.

Cancer is such a huge illness now that who can tell what is causing it in any particular case or what source of radiation is the real problem?

[antinwo]

Come to think of it I preferred it when there were no masts at all hidden or whatever. Cancer is on the increase as well as diabetes, MS ect and we have to question what could be the causes of this IMO

[largejack]

They were forced to pull down the masts over those flats in Bristol

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-473553/Orange-remove-mobile-mast-tower-doom-cancer-rate-soared.html

That means they should pull down everyone around the country in my opinion.

By the way my local cricket club are being paid a fortune to have two of these bloody things placed on their land, as a consequence they have now built a beautiful bar and new state of the art pavilion. Also the cricket club is just over the road from my childhood school. Just a co-incidence, nothing to worry about.

[deca]

who the fuck ? would imagine being mind controled and electronic harrassed?
I can think of lots of things I would imagine being , but some sort of human giunea pig not one! its just a one way ticket to the nut house!!! and a life of ridicule !!! not fame or fortune!!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/fashion/13psych.html?pagewanted=all
yep we no the score from this hit peace dude
Sharing Their Demons on the Web
Paul Smith for The New York Times
CRITICAL THOUGHT Vaughn Bell, a British psychologist, first began tracking sites with reports of mind control in 2004.

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By SARAH KERSHAW
Published: November 12, 2008
FOR years they lived in solitary terror of the light beams that caused searing headaches, the technology that took control of their minds and bodies. They feared the stalkers, people whose voices shouted from the walls or screamed in their heads, “We found you” and “We want you dead.”

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When people who believe such things reported them to the police, doctors or family, they said they were often told they were crazy. Sometimes they were medicated or locked in hospital wards, or fired from jobs and isolated from the outside world.

But when they found one another on the Internet, everything changed. So many others were having the same experiences.

Type “mind control” or “gang stalking” into Google, and Web sites appear that describe cases of persecution, both psychological and physical, related with the same minute details — red and white cars following victims, vandalism of their homes, snickering by those around them.

Identified by some psychologists and psychiatrists as part of an “extreme community” on the Internet that appears to encourage delusional thinking, a growing number of such Web sites are filled with stories from people who say they are victims of mind control and stalking by gangs of government agents. The sites are drawing the concern of mental health professionals and the interest of researchers in psychology and psychiatry.

Although many Internet groups that offer peer support are considered helpful to the mentally ill, some experts say Web sites that amplify reports of mind control and group stalking represent a dark side of social networking. They may reinforce the troubled thinking of the mentally ill and impede treatment.

Dr. Ralph Hoffman, a psychiatry professor at Yale who studies delusions, said a growing number of his research subjects have told him of visiting mind-control sites, and finding in them confirmation of their own experiences.

“The views of these belief systems are like a shark that has to be constantly fed,” Dr. Hoffman said. “If you don’t feed the delusion, sooner or later it will die out or diminish on its own accord. The key thing is that it needs to be repetitively reinforced.”

That is what the Web sites do, he said. Similar concerns have arisen about a proliferation of sites that describe how to commit suicide, or others that promote anorexia and bulimia, providing detailed instructions on restricting food and photographs of skeletal women meant to be “thinspiration.”

For people who regularly visit and write on message boards on the mind-control sites, the idea that others would describe the sites as promoting delusional and psychotic thinking is simply evidence of a cover-up of the truth.

“It was a big relief to find the community,” said Derrick Robinson, 55, a janitor in Cincinnati and president of Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance, a group that claims several hundred regular users of its Web site. “I felt that maybe there were others, but I wasn’t real sure until I did find this community,” Mr. Robinson said.

There is no concise survey of mind-control sites or others describing gang stalking — whose users believe that groups of people are following and controlling them, as part of a test of neurological or other kinds of weapons likely conducted by the government — on the Net. But they are easy to find. Some have hundreds of postings, along with links to dozers of similar sties. One, Gangstalkingworld.com, welcomes visitors with this description: “Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individual’s life. The target is followed around and placed under surveillance by Civilian Spies/Snitches 24/7.”

The site lists more than 71,000 visitors, and it has links to several other sites, including Harrassment101.com, which has 965 posts.

One poster to Gang Stalking World wrote in August: “It’s insane that I daily have to come home and try to figure out if my Web sites will still be up or shut down. This week they have really been playing with me, and so it was my time to play back.” The post directs readers to other gang-stalking sites should their favorite sites be shut down.

Mr. Robinson said in an interview that that he has been tortured and abused by gang stalkers and by “neurological weaponry” since leaving the Navy in 1982. “To read the stories and the similarity of the harassment techniques that were going on, to hear about the vandalism, appliance tampering and all the other things were designed to drive a person crazy, who do you go to with this?” he said. “People will say you are delusional.”

For Mr. Robinson and several other Web site users interviewed for this article — all of whom insisted they were not delusional, including one man who said he had been hospitalized in psychiatric wards — the sites provide the powerful, unfamiliar experience of being understood by others.

“By and large, most people are sane and coherent and can relate exactly what’s happening to them,” Mr. Robinson said. “They can say the things that would otherwise get them labeled as delusional.”

His group of self-described “targeted individuals” met offline in Los Angeles last month for their inaugural conference, he said, where they attended a meeting to share stories, including the humiliating experiences of being told they are insane.

Mental health experts who have closely looked at the Web sites are careful to say that there is no way to prove if someone posting on, say, Mr. Robinson’s site, Freedomfchs.com, which says its mission is to seek justice for those singled out by “organized stalking and electromagnetic torture,” is suffering from mental illness.

Vaughan Bell, a British psychologist who has researched the effect of the Internet on mental illness, first began tracking sites with reports of mind control in 2004. In 2006 he published a study concluding that there was an extensive Internet community around such beliefs, and he called 10 sites he studied “likely psychotic sites.”

The extent of the community, Dr. Bell said, poses a paradox to the traditional way delusion is defined under the diagnostic guidelines of the American Psychiatric Association, which says that if a belief is held by a person’s “culture or subculture,” it is not a delusion. The exception accounts for rituals of religious faith, for example.

Dr. Bell, whose study was published in the journal Psychopathology, said that it does not suggest all people participating in mind-control sites are delusional, and that a firm diagnosis of psychosis could only be done in person.

For people who say they are the target of mind control or gang stalking, there may be enough evidence in the scientific literature to fan their beliefs. Many sites point to MK-ULTRA, the code name for a covert C.I.A. mind-control and chemical interrogation program begun in the 1950s.

Recently the sites have linked to an article published in September in Time magazine, “The Army’s Totally Serious Mind-Control Project,” which described a $4 million contract given to the Army to develop “thought helmets” that would allow troops to communicate through brain waves on the battlefield.

And the users of some sites have found the support of Jim Guest, a Republican state representative in Missouri, who wrote last year to his fellow legislators calling for an investigation into the claims of those who say they are being tortured by mind control.

“I’ve had enough calls, some from credible people — professors — being targeted by nonlethal weapons,” Mr. Guest said in a telephone interview, adding that nothing came of his request for a legislative investigation. “They become psychologically affected by it. They have trouble sleeping at night.”

He added: “I believe there are people who have been targeted by this. With this equipment, you have to test it on somebody to see if it works.”

Dr. Bell and some other mental health professionals say that even if the users of such sites are psychotic, forging an online connection to others and being told — perhaps for the first time — “you are not crazy” could actually have a positive effect on their illnesses.

“We know, for example, that things like social support, all of these positive social aspects are very good for people’s mental illness,” Dr. Bell said. “I wouldn’t say it’s entirely and completely positive, but it can be positive.”

Some research has shown that when people with delusions undergo group cognitive therapy, the group process can be helpful in their treatment.

But the Web sites are not moderated by professionals, and many postings discuss the failure of medication and say that mental health professionals are part of the conspiracy against them.

“These people lead quietly desperate lives,” said Dr. Jeffrey A. Lieberman, chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University. “And if they are reinforcing each other and pulling people toward something, if they are using the Internet and getting reinforcement, that’s good.”

The mind-control sites remind some experts of the accounts of those claiming to have been abducted by aliens in the 1970s and ’80s. One person’s story begat another until many insisted they had had virtually identical experiences of being taken onto space ships by silvery sloe-eyed creatures.

Some of those now posting on mind-control sites say they are being remotely “sexually stimulated” by their torturers. Some alien abductees had said similar things. Subsequent research generally showed that those who believed they had been abducted were not psychotic, but suffering from severe memory and sleep problems, or personal traumas, Dr. Bell said.

Psychiatrists and researchers say it is too soon to say whether communication on the Internet among people who may be psychotic will negatively effect their illnesses.” This is a very complex little corner,” said Dr. Ken Duckworth, the medical director for the National Alliance on Mental Illness, an advocacy group. “Some people may find it’s healing, but these are really hard questions. The Internet isn’t a cause of mental illness, it’s a complicating new variable.”


I like the way the use "light beams" to knock our cliams and not what to use pulsed microwaves and the hard science that backs our claims.
I distance myself from "gangstalking" I believe that most can be put down to the technology , its well known that high EMF can cause people to believe they are being watched,Most Ganstalked TI`s have little knowledge of the technology and think its just used to Track them or give them pain.
I do belive that TI`s do get harrased and intimtated , phone calls, property damaged/moved ect., but most can be done with a few people.

http://www.ghostnspecter.com/EMF%20Meters.htm
Electromagnetic fields effects on general health

Some parapsychologists and paranormal investigators have become interested in the effects electromagnetic radiation has on the brain. It has been shown that under certain conditions, exposure to high levels of low frequency radiation can cause hallucinations within the brain. Therefore, a person subject to this kind of radiation may 'hallucinate a ghost'. Other reported symptoms include headaches, suicide and depression, nausea, fatigue, anxiety and even the feeling of being watched.




Anyway I don`t care if you belive me Marpart , I leave that up to the courts one day weather I am personal getting attacked.

can you remotly put a voice into somebodys head?
Mad Labs: Audio Spotlight
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=veDk2Vd-9oQ

you could class a mosquito as a electronic harrassment device that exploits and audio effect
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/The+MOSQUITO.htm?gclid=CPyupJujhJgCFYwH3godOy8ADA

We live in a country were they are errecting CCTV with speakers on them so an operater can comunicate to a person viewed doing something wrong.
is it hard to belive if they were devolping people tracking devices i.e RADAR they would what the same ability? i.e attching microwave hearing to a see through the wall radar?

[deca]

If you want to understand this i would reconmend learning about Dr M persingers work and Dr. Nick Begich http://www.earthpulse.com/
both have videos on youtube and google Etc..

[cafetimes1991]

There's a mast beside my school, just above the Garda (police) station. :(

[deca]

"Isn't it time that the government woke up to the reality of electrosensitivity instead of attempting to persuade sufferers that it is all in their minds?" said spokeswoman Yasmin Skelt.


yep its all in the mind nothing to worry about!!!!

Phone mast allergy 'in the mind'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6914492.stm

[deca]

I will be frank, I think deca is actually imagining the situation he is in and all the stuff he finds on the web just feeds his state of mind. Nothing personal but thats how it looks.



Yep my videos of unexplain ELF and my high body voltage is just a figment of my imagination as well. Yep the people all around the world claiming the same or simliar symtons are just reading them of the net ?
Think about it would I not be suffering from something first of all to type mind control and electronic harrassment , what makes me type that into google in the first place?
thats like saying people commit suicde because they read it of the net? would they not feel suicdidale in the first place then search these sites out?
I not some guilable sheep!!!!!

[marpat]

Yep my videos of unexplain ELF and my high body voltage is just a figment of my imagination as well. Yep the people all around the world claiming the same or simliar symtons are just reading them of the net ?
Think about it would I not be suffering from something first of all to type mind control and electronic harrassment , what makes me type that into google in the first place?
thats like saying people commit suicde because they read it of the net? would they not feel suicdidale in the first place then search these sites out?
I not some guilable sheep!!!!!

But you dont even know what those fields represent. High body voltage bollocks. I have measured voltage in my own body but make no such claims.

Many schizophrenics would argue the same case as you do. I guess you will put that doiwn to external harrassment. The trouble with a lot of these theories is that it feeds the paranoid minds of people who are unwell and gives them an excuse to blame somebody else rather than the often difficult process of coming to grips with something in their own mind.

It might be easy to find articles and quotes on the internet about all sort of stuff but this does not in any way mean that it is all being directed at you for no reason at all. You are no an important person, not a threat to them so why would they bother? I am sure there would be many people who would be far more suitable subjects.

Anyway, I can see that this debate is a dead end.

[antinwo]

Well Mr Alan Watt (he was on Alex Jones last night) has been studying mobile phone masts and he says they will be apparently used for crowd control when the riots break out. That probably explains why the are all placed within metres of each other. He calls them frequency masts. It will be one of the silent weapons that will be used against the masses.

If true, it doesn't look good folks.

[marpat]

Well Mr Alan Watt (he was on Alex Jones last night) has been studying mobile phone masts and he says they will be apparently used for crowd control when the riots break out. That probably explains why the are all placed within metres of each other. He calls them frequency masts. It will be one of the silent weapons that will be used against the masses.

If true, it doesn't look good folks.


So what does he have as evidence for this? mobile network masts were one of the areas I have to get some background in for my technical training.

I doubt they could be used for riot control. If you have police on one side and people on another then activate some sonic pulses from these multi directional masts then you are going to hit both sides. I think it is not a practical solution when all you would really need to do is to mount a device onto a vehicle and drive it to where such riots would be happening. I have seem such riot control kit on TV. Why go over the top with elaborate networks of masts when you can have easy and cheap solutions that do the job?

They have to be within certain distances for area coverage. The masts cover specific areas so to achieve total coverage they need masts to be at specific distances otherwis the signal strength will vary greatly then people will stop using the network if it is too unreliable.

People quote names as if they know exactly what is going on but they are just guessing.

[deca]

You are no an important person, not a threat to them so why would they bother?

hmmm was every one expermented on under mkultra were they all important, what about all the other human experiments nuke fallout ect... portadown? all they all important?

Have I ever said I was special? stop trying to make it about me?

Yes I am no threat , thats why they can get away with it, I report it they say am nuts, Then I point out that the technology exsits then people well they would not use it on you? insult to injury.

So you admit they have the technology? If they don`t use it on me who would they use it on?

[deca]

It tells you there not be me but by experts who have studied this for this a long time about save enviroments, my body is under strong magnetic fields even when my electric power turned of.
my video shows me on my bed with a body voltage of over 300mv and I also have data when it was over 1000mv already posted.
Building Biology Biological Risk Ratings for Sleeping Spaces

Ideal Under 10 mV

Weak 10 to 100

Strong mV 100 to 1000 mV

Extreme Over 1000 mV

what do you want a written statment form the people doing this to me? because I think they would hide behind ignorance and national scruity

Marpat have you shares in mobil phones companys?

[marpat]

It tells you there not be me but by experts who have studied this for this a long time about save enviroments, my body is under strong magnetic fields even when my electric power turned of.
my video shows me on my bed with a body voltage of over 300mv and I also have data when it was over 1000mv already posted.


what do you want a written statment form the people doing this to me? because I think they would hide behind ignorance and national scruity

Marpat have you shares in mobil phones companys?


Like I said before I have measured such things in my own body and seen other people do exactly the same just by using an oscilliscope. Why should I find this unusual?

[deca]

Like I said before I have measured such things in my own body and seen other people do exactly the same just by using an oscilliscope. Why should I find this unusual?

what was your reading?
http://www.lessemf.com/probe.html

An external electric field will induce an electric field within our bodies. In this sense, our bodies act as antennas picking up fields from electric blankets, alarm clocks, powerlines, and just about everything connected to a source of electric power, whether it is switched on or not. Delicate biological cellular processes (like brain function and heart muscle contraction) operate on the scale of microvolts to millivolts. Some experts warn against induced voltages of 20 mV or higher as they can theoretically interfere with the subtle cellular activity. Simply touch this sensor with a finger and know instantly what effect external fields are having inside your body (where it counts!). Will help you detect irritating sources of electric field which may not otherwise be obvious. (Note: this item is a sensor. To use it you must plug it into a voltmeter or DMM. DMM sold separately).



What don`t you get? I am getting unexplained ELF I have a high body voltage from some external source and I am telling you I am being targetd by none lethal weopons like the ones mentioned here
"Bioeffects Of Selected Nonlethal Weapons" was released under the US Freedom of Information Act
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dc64d9q2_0fc6mf8g8

[marpat]

what was your reading?


To be honest I dont remember. I might have a look at work this week.

[rjl9332]

Just to chip in on the subject I've no doubt that these antennae going up as lampost extensions, disguised trees, disguised telegraph poles etc have some nefarious hidden plot. Is it any coincidence that PET plastic leaches hormone-mimicking chemicals into the water, is it any coincidence that aspartame is a deadly toxin capable of passing the blood-brain barrier, is it any coincidence that there is a push for fluoridated water in the UK, is it any coincidence that we are all noticing chemtrails in the sky, is it any coincidence that the ruling class have idolised eugenics in the past and tried to get the public to accept it, is it any coincidence that bailifs are getting more power to evict whilst tax goes up and pay goes down, it is any coincidence that the police under new proposed laws can legally store and access any form of electronic communication you make?

again and again and again.

By the way these are not mobile phone masts anyway, they are known as O2 airwave transmitters and they carry a new secure channel for all emergency services which is meant to make all forces capable of communicating over the various cells of the country. The frequency and amplitude of the wave itself is very similar to that of our brainwaves - quite low and fairly weak which makes it quite inefficient at transmitting a reliable signal, hence the crazy amount of repeaters and towers required to carry the signal... and they only work on line of sight which makes for some incredibly ugly looking makeshift towers and bolt-ons seen on top of higher buildings in built up areas.

Anyway, to those who wish to deny there being any logical connection between an unprecedented increase in these masts - which i repeat are NOTHING to do with mobile phones - and the technologies mentioned by previous posts on this thread, i suspect you are either in denial, highly ignorant, or a paid agent. simple as that.

[antinwo]

The best one is the mast that has just recently gone up near my dads house. It has been disguised as a lampost and yet at night it is the only lampost that is not lit:rolleyes:

[chris_com283]

I've noticed these at various places. Plus in Broadmead they have these weird posts in the centre. A friend called it a modern Stone Hendge. Did you know that the penial gland isn't protected by the blood brain barriar? Plus flouride is known to accumulate there and so high amounts can cause early puperty, plus I think even stunt growth.

[deca]

Even if you don`t believe the health effects or the mind control then you got to be worried about CELLDAR.
Now think on how many more of these towers our today,surley it will make CELLDAR even more effective

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oct/13/humanrights.mobilephones
How mobile phones let spies see our every moveGovernment's secret Celldar project will allow surveillance of anyone, at any time and anywhere there is a phone signalJason Burke and Peter Warren
The Observer, Sunday 13 October 2002
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Secret radar technology research that will allow the biggest-ever extension of 'Big Brother'-style surveillance in the UK is being funded by the Government.
The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and individuals 'in real time' almost anywhere in Britain.

The technology 'sees' the shapes made when radio waves emitted by mobile phone masts meet an obstruction. Signals bounced back by immobile objects, such as walls or trees, are filtered out by the receiver. This allows anything moving, such as cars or people, to be tracked. Previously, radar needed massive fixed equipment to work and transmissions from mobile phone masts were thought too weak to be useful.

The system works wherever a mobile phone can pick up a signal. By using receivers attached to mobile phone masts, users of the new technology could focus in on areas hundreds of miles away and bring up a display showing any moving vehicles and people.

An individual with one type of receiver, a portable unit little bigger than a laptop computer, could even use it as a 'personal radar' covering the area around the user. Researchers are working to give the new equipment 'X-ray vision' - the capability to 'see' through walls and look into people's homes.

Ministry of Defence officials are hoping to introduce the system as soon as resources allow. Police and security services are known to be interested in a variety of possible surveillance applications. The researchers themselves say the system, known as Celldar, is aimed at anti-terrorism defence, security and road traffic management.

However civil liberties groups have been swift to condemn the plan.

'It's an appalling idea,' said Simon Davies, director of Privacy International. 'The Government is just capitalising on current public fears over security to intoduce new systems that are neither desirable nor necessary.'

The system, used alongside technology which allows individuals to be identified by their mobile phone handsets, will mewan that individuals can be located and their movements watched on a screen from hundreds of miles away.

Prototypes have been effective over 50 to 100 metres but the developers are confident that range can be extended.

After a series of meetings with Roke Manor, a private research company in Romsey, Hants, MoD officials have started funding the multi-million pound project. Reports of the meetings are 'classified'.

Whitehall officials involved in radar confirmed that the MoD was 'very interested' last week. 'It's all about resources now,' said one.

Private security specialists have also welcomed the new technology.

'It will be enormously useful,' the director of one private security firm said. 'Instead of setting up expensive and cumbersome surveillance equipment, police or the security services could start work quickly and easily almost anywhere.

'For tracking a suspect, preventing a potential crime or a terrorist strike or simply locating people [the system] has enormous advantages.'

It is likely that the technology would be used at first to protect sensitive installations such as ports and airfields.

The perimeter of a nuclear power station or an RAF base could be watched without having a bank of CCTV screens and dozens of expensive cameras.

If the radar picked up movement then a single camera could be focused on a specific area.

Celldar could also monitor roads when poor visibility due to bad weather rendered cameras useless.

'The equipment could pick up traffic flows towards an accident site and the details of a crash; who is where and so on,' said Peter Lloyd of Roke Manor.

Lloyd also outlined a number of military applications for the technology. Individual armoured vehicles or even soldiers could carry the detectors which could tell them where enemy troops were.

Security specialists point out how useful personal radars would be in siege situations. However there are significant concerns that the technology might be abused by authorities or fall into the wrong hands.

'Like all instrusive surveillance, we need to be sure that it is properly regulated, preferably by the judiciary,' said Roger Bingham of Liberty.

Bingham expressed concerns that the new equipment, which would be virtually undetectable, could be used by private detectives or others for personal or commercial gain.

Modern technology has brought massive opportunities for wider surveillance. Since the 11 September terrorist attacks on Washington and New York, the government has been pushing through a package of anti-terrorism legislation which targets electronic communications.

Senior police officers are now allowed to access mobile telephone and email records without judicial or executive assent. Within two years, all mobile phones are expected to have satellite-locating devices built into them.


Maybe them sticking X ray machines in "lamp posts" its no so far fetched
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6309917.stm
Could X-ray scanners work on the street?

[1337]

whoa all this time being a TI , and didnt know it .

now i dress in all black and only go out at night, walk down alleys , and carry a few smoke bombs to escape in a cloud. . serioiusly tho, next time i see one im gonna go upto him and punch him the fuck out .

and about the xrays, crt monitors can xray you. microsoft stole the GUI from xerox which is GE company.

why keep crt's on the market so long? to x-ray everyones skull.

if you dont beleive me, try to delete the xerox folder from c:/program_files

[deca]

whoa all this time being a TI , and didnt know it .

now i dress in all black and only go out at night, walk down alleys , and carry a few smoke bombs to escape in a cloud. . serioiusly tho, next time i see one im gonna go upto him and punch him the fuck out .

and about the xrays, crt monitors can xray you. microsoft stole the GUI from xerox which is GE company.

why keep crt's on the market so long? to x-ray everyones skull.

if you dont beleive me, try to delete the xerox folder from c:/program_files

man you need to stop smoking the weed!!!!!!:D

[antinwo]

Maybe it's all that mind control from the masts:D

[marpat]

Deca, I measured my body voltage at work today using an oscilloscope. The measurement was 1.12v. In mV that is 1120. One of the other guys done it and had hardly any voltage at all.

[antinwo]

bloody hell where do you work sounds very interesting

[1337]

man you need to stop smoking the weed!!!!!!

i kinda did quit, im sober now, heres my first gang stalker experience.. one time i was being followed, and i was trippin balls cause i just did a bunch of coke. so i was paranoid. I noticed a couple cars following me so i hid in a bush. and the car stopped , the dude got out and looked around for me. then he drove away and must have called his buddy cause when i got out of the bush i had to cross a bridge and a swarm of cars ripped around the bend and they were all on cell phones. so i crossed the bridge, and noticed 3 vans park in a lot across the parking lot. they got out and scattered into the dark park i was going to walk thru, fuck that so i kinda went the other way and a car came ripping after me. this was the first time i got chased so i thought they were going to kill me. i kept trying to say to myself no one is after me, no one is after me. but by that time im cornered and the guy gets out of his car and aproches me and see him reach in his coat pocket. im like oh fuck hes gonna shoot me. i run like a bastard covering my head and take cover behind a concrete stairwell thing.then pop my head up and yup hes walking toward me but he reached for his smokes. so im like fuck it, i walk up to him and ask him for a smoke. he gave me 2 . then i disapear into the bush. still have about 20 blocks to go to get home. and by now im shure they are following me. i blitz thru the park and make it to the grid, where a nother car starts up and comes at me. so i jump a fence and hide in a yard till he drives away, then i run super fast freaking out completly. a white car with a younger guy in it rips down the road and spots me and slams on the break, i take cover in someones yard under a bush, he gets out of the car and looks around for 5 minutes, then aperently left but he parked a block down. after that i said fuck it. and ran all the way home. encountering more cars and even people on foot. once i reached the thresh hold of the biker hood, i knew i was safe and walked home. that was my first gang stalking. because they cant find me. if they do i might hurt them. also if they find out your crazy they tend to leave you alone.

[deca]

Deca, I measured my body voltage at work today using an oscilloscope. The measurement was 1.12v. In mV that is 1120. One of the other guys done it and had hardly any voltage at all.

As you said you took your body voltage at work, not as I did in a resadential area surrunded by comunal gardens. I also took mine in the bedroom with me lying down and the electric turned off at the mains, what was your envoriment like in your lab? did your boss let you turn off the main power?
don`t you have a muilty meter at home? A man with your experences would know how handy these are, testing fuses and batters , ect.....

Hmm does not oscilloscope not have a VDU screen and powered by mains its not a CRT they kick out some amout of EMF especally round the back and sides my ELF meter goes red when going near one.
do you not have a digital muilty meter with a small LCD screen powered by 9 volt battery!!!

[deca]

Monarch Chapter 10B: Russian Mind Control
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3Qpe_7wuA

there are more vidoes on mind control here http://uk.youtube.com/user/marsboy683

He has researched this well,I have talked with marsboy a few times, and he has even used some of my footage in his movies.

He is a TI like myself and has mangaged to do a lot more than I have so far.
ITs an up hill struggle for us TI`s caught between to camps the "we can`t belive it" one and the "we are not going to admit it" .
Truth and the sciences will shine through and prove whats happning.

[marpat]

As you said you took your body voltage at work, not as I did in a resadential area surrunded by comunal gardens. I also took mine in the bedroom with me lying down and the electric turned off at the mains, what was your envoriment like in your lab? did your boss let you turn off the main power?
don`t you have a muilty meter at home? A man with your experences would know how handy these are, testing fuses and batters , ect.....

Hmm does not oscilloscope not have a VDU screen and powered by mains its not a CRT they kick out some amout of EMF especally round the back and sides my ELF meter goes red when going near one.
do you not have a digital muilty meter with a small LCD screen powered by 9 volt battery!!!

Ant the fact that the other guy who tried it measured almost nothing makes no difference?

Such devices have to have screening from magnetic fields otherwise they would not be able to record accurate measurements when used. If they just picked up everything in the area then they would be useless.

EMF from background cabling is limted to a very small area. It does not go on indefinitely. This can be proven with a gaussmeter.

[antinwo]

But the sudden increase in masts is just a coincidence and nothing to worry about. Hell yeah they are even put there to make the landscape look nicer:rolleyes:

[deca]

Ant the fact that the other guy who tried it measured almost nothing makes no difference?

Such devices have to have screening from magnetic fields otherwise they would not be able to record accurate measurements when used. If they just picked up everything in the area then they would be useless.

EMF from background cabling is limted to a very small area. It does not go on indefinitely. This can be proven with a gaussmeter.

First were does my unexplained ELF come from then, when I am in the middle of the room or outside? video proof????

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PrD9ym2i_CQ

My meter
http://www.lessemf.com/gauss.html

E.L.F.-ZONE™ GAUSS METER
What this meter lacks in resolution it makes up with ease of use and very low cost. Will measure ELF/VLF magnetic fields in the frequency range of 20 - 10,000 Hz, with a minimum sensitivity of .25 mG. Laboratory tested and documented for accuracy.

Three LED lights signal field strength:
0 - 2.5 mG ("safe")
2.5 - 7 mG ("caution")
8 or more mG ("danger")
Single axis sensor, on/off toggle switch. One fresh 9V battery required. Useful for preliminary surveys of home, car, or office. Very popular for paranormal work too!

There are several things that kick out high EMF monitors,microwaves,electric drills and hair dryers ect....

What electric devices do you have in your lab were you did your test?

You asked me about my enviroment!!!!!

[antinwo]

First were does my unexplained ELF come from then, when I am in the middle of the room or outside? video proof????

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PrD9ym2i_CQ

My meter
http://www.lessemf.com/gauss.html

E.L.F.-ZONE™ GAUSS METER
What this meter lacks in resolution it makes up with ease of use and very low cost. Will measure ELF/VLF magnetic fields in the frequency range of 20 - 10,000 Hz, with a minimum sensitivity of .25 mG. Laboratory tested and documented for accuracy.

Three LED lights signal field strength:
0 - 2.5 mG ("safe")
2.5 - 7 mG ("caution")
8 or more mG ("danger")
Single axis sensor, on/off toggle switch. One fresh 9V battery required. Useful for preliminary surveys of home, car, or office. Very popular for paranormal work too!

There are several things that kick out high EMF monitors,microwaves,electric drills and hair dryers ect....

What electric devices do you have in your lab were you did your test?

You asked me about my enviroment!!!!!


Good findings and some REAL proof. Marpat do real tests, comon I am still waiting for the chemtrail one:D

[marpat]

Good findings and some REAL proof. Marpat do real tests, comon I am still waiting for the chemtrail one:D

I am an electronics technician. What is Deca?

And what would you know about good results? you ever done any work in this field? if not then shut up.

[marpat]

First were does my unexplained ELF come from then, when I am in the middle of the room or outside? video proof????

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PrD9ym2i_CQ

My meter
http://www.lessemf.com/gauss.html

E.L.F.-ZONE™ GAUSS METER
What this meter lacks in resolution it makes up with ease of use and very low cost. Will measure ELF/VLF magnetic fields in the frequency range of 20 - 10,000 Hz, with a minimum sensitivity of .25 mG. Laboratory tested and documented for accuracy.

Three LED lights signal field strength:
0 - 2.5 mG ("safe")
2.5 - 7 mG ("caution")
8 or more mG ("danger")
Single axis sensor, on/off toggle switch. One fresh 9V battery required. Useful for preliminary surveys of home, car, or office. Very popular for paranormal work too!

There are several things that kick out high EMF monitors,microwaves,electric drills and hair dryers ect....

What electric devices do you have in your lab were you did your test?

You asked me about my enviroment!!!!!

The place where I was testing was not a lab but there were electronics on in the cabin. This causes no intereference for two reasons:

1) An oscilloscope is set at zero on start up to enable accurate measurements.

2) Electronics have a limited EMF, certainly not enough to produce over 1v at 2m.

Cant say what you ELF is though. Any transmitter needs to be working at the minimum of 15khz (If I recall correctly) otherwise there will be no radiation from the antenna. This would have to be the very minimum for a carrier wave. To transmit wave less that that frequency you need to use the carrier wave but modulated with the lower freq. I guess that meter would not pick up a carrier wave as its range is too low.

[antinwo]

I am an electronics technician. What is Deca?

And what would you know about good results? you ever done any work in this field? if not then shut up.

I have seen a lot of good results and I happen to believe them even though I have not done the testing myself which is more than can be said for sheeple like you:rolleyes:

[marpat]

I have seen a lot of good results and I happen to believe them even though I have not done the testing myself which is more than can be said for sheeple like you:rolleyes:


Er, hang on. I am the sheeple yet I have done such a test myself with good equipment, whereas you have not. You happen to BELIEVE other people though and what they say? that is just fucked up.

What is wrong with the reading I got? nothing. At least I am a professional in that field whereas you are not. Your stance is like that of a blind woman teaching somebody to drive when women should never be let behind the car wheel:D

Dont you think it is odd calling me a sheep when you are the one following the group purely out of belief? save your three bags full, its a long winter

[antinwo]

Er, hang on. I am the sheeple yet I have done such a test myself with good equipment, whereas you have not. You happen to BELIEVE other people though and what they say? that is just fucked up.

What is wrong with the reading I got? nothing. At least I am a professional in that field whereas you are not. Your stance is like that of a blind woman teaching somebody to drive when women should never be let behind the car wheel:D

Dont you think it is odd calling me a sheep when you are the one following the group purely out of belief? save your three bags full, its a long winter

Where are your chemtrail test results then Marpat??? I do not follow sheep I just follow information, and I happen to have a mind of my own believe it or not. As for your opinion that women should never be let behind the car wheel, are you sexist?? Does your wife, Girlfriend drive?? I have seen a lot more psycho men than woman behind the wheel!!

[marpat]

Where are your chemtrail test results then Marpat??? I do not follow sheep I just follow information, and I happen to have a mind of my own believe it or not. As for your opinion that women should never be let behind the car wheel, are you sexist?? Does your wife, Girlfriend drive?? I have seen a lot more psycho men than woman behind the wheel!!

This is not the chemtrail thread so dont hijack it.

You do follow the group. Did you not just admit that you BELIEVE some peoples results.

I was joking about the driving things and my wife does drive :D

[antinwo]

Back on topic. Does anyone know what the safe distance to live from these masts is??

[marpat]

Phone mast info

http://www1.orange.co.uk/about/phone_masts/faqs.html

http://www.ehn.clara.net/mobilephones.html

http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm

I think the only way you can convince youself about this distance is to get a radiation meter and find a mast to measure. Different countries have different safety standards.

[antinwo]

Thank you

[wildheartx]

My adopted sister who has ADD is massively affected by cell phone and mobile phone mastunfortunately my parents still have their eyes closed to all this and keep bombarding her with EMFs. Last year they had a wireless network put in their home for the PC and her behaviour deteriorated enormously. She was aggressive and even more impatient and strangest symptom of all she ate x2 what she normally ate and gained weight. For a whole month the connection was turned off because the PC died and my parents were waiting on a new one. Needless to say my sisters personality changed dramatically. She became more patient, she slept better at night. She even did chores in the house and she ate less!! I told my family it was due to the fact there is no wireless connection and i they dismissed it(as they would because it means their convenient internet connection would be gone if they took in on board)but as soon as they got the PC fixed, the wireless returned and the old sister returned with a vengeance.

My mother is now suffering from heart problems and again ive mentioned the wireless network but telling those with their eyes closed is truly a waste of time.

[beldazar]

Have you looked into orgonite? Perhaps this may help your family

[marpat]

My adopted sister who has ADD is massively affected by cell phone and mobile phone mastunfortunately my parents still have their eyes closed to all this and keep bombarding her with EMFs. Last year they had a wireless network put in their home for the PC and her behaviour deteriorated enormously. She was aggressive and even more impatient and strangest symptom of all she ate x2 what she normally ate and gained weight. For a whole month the connection was turned off because the PC died and my parents were waiting on a new one. Needless to say my sisters personality changed dramatically. She became more patient, she slept better at night. She even did chores in the house and she ate less!! I told my family it was due to the fact there is no wireless connection and i they dismissed it(as they would because it means their convenient internet connection would be gone if they took in on board)but as soon as they got the PC fixed, the wireless returned and the old sister returned with a vengeance.

My mother is now suffering from heart problems and again ive mentioned the wireless network but telling those with their eyes closed is truly a waste of time.


Maybe she was more patient because she was not on the computer. I have a wireless network and we have had no character changes. How much time did she spend on the PC?

EMF is a product of all electrical items so if she was spending loads of time at the pc she would have been within the EMF of the PC. If the PC has been off then she would not be sitting within the EMF area of the PC. This is regardless of the wireless connection. That said the PC case would absorb most of the EMF caused internally.

Your mother could have developed those health problems with age or diet. Does she eat healthy food and get much exercise? There are more factors than having a wireless LAN.

[wildheartx]

My sister never went on the PC. Shes got ADD, she hasn't the patience to even sit at one and work out what they do and my mother has never had health problems until the wireless was installed and a phone mast went up 1/4 mile away. With the wireless gone it was a like miracle, she completely calmed down.

[marpat]

My sister never went on the PC. Shes got ADD, she hasn't the patience to even sit at one and work out what they do and my mother has never had health problems until the wireless was installed and a phone mast went up 1/4 mile away. With the wireless gone it was a like miracle, she completely calmed down.

And you dont think it might have been that people were spending more time with her doing stuff while the PC was off? not calling you a liar or anything but just trying to eliminate the obvious factors first. If she has ADD does her character not have fluctuations anyway?

1/4 of a mile is a long way. I work on a radar less than 60 meters from where we sit and it has a lot more power than any phone mast. Actually there are a few radars in our area and I have not suffered from poor health. Actually for being nearly 40 I am quite fit. This is one reason why I doubt a lot of people stories about bad health caused by masts.

[beldazar]

Yes Marpat but remember that some people are very sensitive. Ive heard that some can have adverse effects from energy-saving blubs......oh lets not forget the amount of allergies people suffer from. Just because you and yours dont get affected doesnt mean anyone else wont.

Oh, and thanks for posting the links about mobile phones...the amount of people I see talking for hours on them and dont have a clue!

You are quite useful sometimes ;)

[wildheartx]

People spent more time with her because she became more receptive. It seems as if you don't want accept the whole wireless/phone mast connection. I believe The Independent published a story last year involving a Devon school that had wireless put in and the kids couldn't behave in the computer class. A lot of them became sick. A very wise teacher immediately saw the light and the connection was removed. No more sick kids and a lot less disruptive class.

We could discuss this point forever. I have seen what a wireless network can do to a young adult. I have no doubt they are contributing towards peoples health problems. I think those who aren't seemingly affected maybe have low levels of body toxicity. I think that could be key..low mercury levels and a good diet. I don't know maybe theres some sort of synergistic poisoning going on. Im happy it doesn't affect you and you're obviously in good shape but just try telling those whos whole neighbourhoods have been affected by sky high cancer rates due to phone masts.

[marpat]

Yes Marpat but remember that some people are very sensitive. Ive heard that some can have adverse effects from energy-saving blubs......oh lets not forget the amount of allergies people suffer from. Just because you and yours dont get affected doesnt mean anyone else wont.

Oh, and thanks for posting the links about mobile phones...the amount of people I see talking for hours on them and dont have a clue!

You are quite useful sometimes ;)

thanks chuck, the emperor hasnt driven the good from me fully :D

I am quite a sensitive person myself. I am aware that people will always have slighty different responses but I always think it is best to eliminate obvious or possible reasons rather going straight in for the mast reason.

[beldazar]

Yes thats fair enough and you give people on here plenty of practise for discussing any of these subjects to anyone who has only heard the 'official' explanations.

4 huge masts have gone up in my town, cunningly disguised as gigantic lamp posts with no light. You would never think they were masts if you didnt know. I did look at the network suppliers, one was t-mobile but I cant remember the others. I am on t-mobile and I couldnt get reception and I was about 1000 feet away from it. this cannot be right can it?

Im off into town tomorrow and will take pictures to put up here. I think its all very sad. If they were standard masts, people would complain :(

[deca]

I am an electronics technician. What is Deca?

And what would you know about good results? you ever done any work in this field? if not then shut up.


Yep you may will be, but you never heard of body voltage before I mentioned on it on this thread!!!

Also you never mentioned EMF before I brought it up

But now you are an expert

who should I trust you or these people that have done years of research and set standards.

http://www.buildingbiology.net/

http://www.buildingbiology.net/elpo.html



EMR or electromagnetic radiation is not a new concept in our life. Actually it is a very integral part of our lives because without this electromagnetic energy life would not be possible.


What is the problem we seem to have with electromagnetic radiation?


Well, since time began until about hundred years ago life had to deal with naturally occurring radiation, which somehow was balanced or life was shielded from detrimental parts of that radiation such as certain cosmic radiation. When people started to harness electricity and began to generate and transport it over long distances a different kind of energy was introduced to our life: AC electric, AC magnetic fields and radiofrequency radiation.

Over time, industry found newer and more exciting usage of that energy. It started with simple motors, refrigerators, doorbells, electric blankets, etc., via electric heating systems, communication systems such as radio and television, and is now engaged in sophisticated electronic devices, including military weapon systems, satellites, computers and cell phone technology.

These manmade energies have become part of our lives and as such are superimposed to our subtle body energies. The result of this development seems to be an increase in certain illnesses that have been unknown or at least rare before the electricity age. Research into the long-term effects of an exposure to EMRs is in the beginning stage and hampered and stopped by vested interests.

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Try these sites

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http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/

[antinwo]

I have noticed that these masts now seem to be located around a mile from each other. Mobile phones used to work without this shit what the hell is going on???? My other half thinks that when the shit hits the fan they are going to use these to mind control the populace:eek:

[marpat]

I have noticed that these masts now seem to be located around a mile from each other. Mobile phones used to work without this shit what the hell is going on???? My other half thinks that when the shit hits the fan they are going to use these to mind control the populace:eek:

Maybe they are for new networks. I still doubt you can mind control people with these masts.

Do you travel much? I sometimes have to and have noticed a lot of microwave antennae being installed near the motorways although I dont know what they are for.

[marpat]

Yep you may will be, but you never heard of body voltage before I mentioned on it on this thread!!!






That is complete crap as I have tried measuring it myself many time in the past. When you get bored and this stuff is lying around then trying things like that out are nothing special. Dont try and take credit for something you have not done. All you did was to mention specific levels and try and relate them to something else.

What is your actual physical experience of electronic systems? do you have any or do you just read all this stuff on the web?

[gordysmit]

I cant be botherd reading all the post in this thread sorry :D But these are poping up every were what I think they are wifi towers for the new wifi cameras that keep poping up in lots off places where you "dont even need them" :o like just entering counteys in the middle of nowwhere :mad:

[marpat]

I cant be botherd reading all the post in this thread sorry :D But these are poping up every were what I think they are wifi towers for the new wifi cameras that keep poping up in lots off places where you "dont even need them" :o like just entering counteys in the middle of nowwhere :mad:

I suppose it is an easier solution to cabling the cameras in as that would mean digging the place up and all sorts of other problems and expenses.

[deca]

That is complete crap as I have tried measuring it myself many time in the past. When you get bored and this stuff is lying around then trying things like that out are nothing special. Dont try and take credit for something you have not done. All you did was to mention specific levels and try and relate them to something else.

What is your actual physical experience of electronic systems? do you have any or do you just read all this stuff on the web?

mr Marpat "expert" how would you measure the effect of EMF on the body?


I think the "internet Delusion" and the "internet illness" theory is being pushed when people mention anything outside the "norm"

I have a qualification in basic wiring and my brain is chemical/electrical device plus my nervious system is electrical ?

[abaddon]

our bodies are bio-electrical organisms

these radar wave length conductor sending units and pulsating a wavelength into and through our bodies... wi fi internet goes through walls... you don't think it could pass through the body?

we are being bombarded with this type of stuff


Absolutely saturated.

These things are to do with HARPP on a local level and mind control IMO. And these masts are breeding faster than rabbits. Anyone who believes these are to do with mobile phones need to wake up. Mobile phones used to work without these things:mad:

My hypothesis on the whole masts matter is this.......

Love can be mesuared as a frequency nowadays, as so can Fear.

If they can recreate these frequencies and broadcast them then it may be helpfull to them.

So the mast mind control is more about emotional influence, to help pre-determine set patterns of habituality. Sounds like that new movie, "Eagle Eye", or whatever it was, about the datagathering Supercomputer.

So what do you lot think they are all for, mobile phones must have reached a peak of sales years back, the reception hasn't improved and they expect us to belive they are for mobiles.

Blue beam?
Mind control?
Desease creating?
Radiation poisoning of UK public?

They could belong to other networks or just extra masts to cover areas with large amounts of users.

I think you finals questions are a little bit crazy though and without any form of evidence to back it up.

Wouldn't be suprised if dual-sim LED disco touch-phones become more popular, hence increasing the 'necessity' of coverage even without an increase in mobiles themselves (i.e well beyond current multi-company coverage). An ad in Oz offered a similar phone, and they gave you a hundred dollars.


Edit: Oh the irony- a mobile breathalyzer that detects cancer! (http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/phones-to-check-our-breath-for-disease-536270)

[marpat]

mr Marpat "expert" how would you measure the effect of EMF on the body?


I think the "internet Delusion" and the "internet illness" theory is being pushed when people mention anything outside the "norm"

I have a qualification in basic wiring and my brain is chemical/electrical device plus my nervious system is electrical ?

This is the sort of excuse people make when they want to believe in something that they cannot prove. 'They just dont understand me, Im too advanced for them, blah, blah'.

Wow, you have a qualification in basic wiring. Well I have worked on some massive electronic systems and transmitters as well as having the knowledge to know how they work. Its like the learner driver trying to tell the instructor that he knows more:rolleyes:

[antinwo]

Maybe they are for new networks. I still doubt you can mind control people with these masts.

Do you travel much? I sometimes have to and have noticed a lot of microwave antennae being installed near the motorways although I dont know what they are for.

No don't have a car so don't get very far unfortunately but in my local town these masts are poping up like no tomorrow and all over the place. They always seem to be near or placed in schools and parks, shopping centres and industrial estates:eek:

[deafbred]

i don't know if anyone posted this

but its a nutty video

how......HIDDEN they become...THESE cell TOWERS


heh, you might never know ONE is RIGHT NEXT to you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4PmvKrDutY
--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4PmvKrDutY--

[adbasque]

This is a selcetion of photo's i took last year when i first started to notice these new type of supposed mobile phone mast crop up everywhere. They seem to appear over night and since i took these picture there have been at least another 15 installed within a 5/ mile radius.

Blue beam?
Mind control?
Desease creating?
Radiation poisoning of UK public?

Yes they are used for many things, radiations, low frequency radiation, and many other things.

Have you ever watched the film by John Carpenter back in the 1989, called "They Live" he described the exact same things.

With low frequency sounds, that keeps repeating through out the day

"Sleep" "Buy" "Obey" "sleep"

they use them under pretext for mobile phones, if really for mobile phones, they can relay directly to satellites they don't need any masts, no need for them.

[dreamweaver]

Yes they are used for many things, radiations, low frequency radiation, and many other things.

Have you ever watched the film by John Carpenter back in the 1989, called "They Live" he described the exact same things.

With low frequency sounds, that keeps repeating through out the day

"Sleep" "Buy" "Obey" "sleep"

they use them under pretext for mobile phones, if really for mobile phones, they can relay directly to satellites they don't need any masts, no need for them.

From what I can remember of They Live, it was the posters that had written commands like "Obey", "Consume", "Respect authority" and "Get married and reproduce".

For the sound, there was some rotating speaker thing saying "Sleep" on top of traffic lights.

Incidentally I seem to recall reading (possibly on here) that a remake of They Live is on the cards. :cool:

As for mind control masts, why do they need them? They've managed perfectly well so far with media manipulation, hierarchical power structures, compartmentalisation and so on.

[beldazar]

I think they need these masts to prevent more people waking up from what I understand. David Icke was told there would be a vibrational change, perhaps thats what is happening to shake people out of their slumber and not dismiss vehemently to the information this board contains for example?

[adbasque]

As for mind control masts, why do they need them? They've managed perfectly well so far with media manipulation, hierarchical power structures, compartmentalisation and so on.

They need them because they don't want people to react, they do wake up but they won't react they simply keep on moaning about it.

It's like to take away from you the will to take action, you know it's not good enough just to be aware and do nothing. I might as well stay asleep, I'll be much happier.

Because being aware and do nothing you will only torment yourself day and night, instead of enjoying life, you will be worried about practically every aspect of your life.

So it's good to be aware and followed by action, otherwise go back to sleep it's better for your health, well what's left of it.

So I believe that's what those masts are for,
About they live, yes it was a rotating radar saying sleep sleep, and on the boards, it was written.

Obey, reproduce, buy, don't question the authorities, and many other messages.

I am almost certain they are already in use now. or something very similar.

[bealert]

I am more electronic harassed than mind controlled.
can i ask how you know that? since there are no syptoms of mind control

[bealert]

Mind control can be used on a victims without any signs or syptoms and is normally used against a individual or target by delivering negative thoughts to the subconscious mind. you can fight it! try keeping your mind occupied, you need to do two things at once
1. while your on your computer listen to a chat show this will enable you to concentrate on something you can also play a game that requires concentration. this will keep your mind occupied.
2. whilst listening to the chat show or playing a game also listen to music in the back ground this will allow your subconcious to concentrate on something. you can concentrate on your chat show but your subconscious will listen to the music and not to negative thoughts coming in to your head.

[bealert]

Hey lookfar, we have a Tetra mast just here too, and the other morning I was woken up by an electrical humming in my chest. It was as if someone had put a vibrator on my chest bone! it definitely was not palpitations, this was a definite electrical buzz which seemed to be coming from outside but resonated in my chest. I have orgonite all over the place!
if you are being mind control you would not know about it its silent apart from the occasional high pitched whistling. They attack your sub conscious and any conditioning is done while you sleep. The only symptoms are occasional headaches on the side of your head which feels like you have a bruise on your head.

[jim panzee]

http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/iraq/2003-03-23-humvee_x.htm

Look on the roof of the vehicle. What are those 'speakers' ????

while I am certain there is a brain wave element to the masts (frequency too close to natural brain waves to be coincidence) I remain to be convinced on the motivation for setting them up.

It is beyond question that there is a definite increase in people's awareness of "out-there" stuff, call it ascension, wake-up, dimensional shift whatever. One theory I have is that as people wake up there will undoubtedly be a range of different reactions, just imagine you know nothing of alternate dimensions or of any of the reptile stuff that David has spoken and written about. How wierded out would you be if you suddenly saw a lizard walking down the street? what if people start seeing their worst nightmares come to life in front of their eyes?

I think there is something in these towers to stop people freaking out as the shift happens. A safety valve for people as they ascend? Think of it as a lifevest for someone who can't swim and has just been thrown into the atlantic, they can use the vest to help while they learn to swim (they become accustomed to their new situation)?

Of course I could be seeing altruistic intentions where there are none!

[jim panzee]

if you are being mind control you would not know about it its silent apart from the occasional high pitched whistling. They attack your sub conscious and any conditioning is done while you sleep. The only symptoms are occasional headaches on the side of your head which feels like you have a bruise on your head.

Yes to all of the above!

To those who think it is 'all in the mind' A few years ago I travelled to some very remote areas well away from any towers and found my thoughts were clearer and I felt less oppressed - It can sometimes feel like my head is made from jelly! BUT as soon as I came back into the UK it felt like a thick blanket had been thrown over my head. This was not a case of post trip blues but a real and detectable sense.

[mystic nomad]

Mass UK Mind Control Technology Now A Reality

By Tim Rifat

Introduction by Ivan Fraser

ivanfraser@cableinet.co.uk

The author of these articles, Tim Rifat, is Europe's foremost independent author and scientist specialising in psychotronics, the use of biophysical and electronic technology to influence and kill the human organism; his forthcoming book: Remote Viewing, gives hints of the breakthroughs he has made in the physics of psy-warfare.

The history of mind control at a distance, remote mind control technology (RMCT) begins in America with the research of Dr Ross Adey and his colleagues in the late '60's, working on the CIA-funded Pandora Project. Adey found that ELF (extremely low frequency) signals on the region of 1-20 Hz (with 0.1 increments having different effects), had bioactive and psychoactive effects. The research was important to the CIA for they wished to find frequencies which could mind control humans from a distance (RMCT). Pandora researchers discovered that the 6-16 Hz region had drastic effects on brain and on nervous and endocrinal systems. This could enable major dysfunction in the target victim if research on cats and monkeys could be duplicated - the research on human victims still remains classified.

A major problem was that ELF transmissions need vast antennae arrays; Adey's research showed that pseudo-ELF, caused by pulse or amplitude modulated microwave, UHF or RF carrier waves at ELF frequencies not only duplicated the psycho- and bioactive effects of ELF, but due to the highly penetrative effects of S-band microwaves (low frequency microwaves) or UHF and RF these combined to have a synergistic effect (especially microwaves) in disrupting biochemical function to amplify the effects of pseudo-ELF. In layman's terms, microwave and pseudo-ELF were more effective at mind control than pure ELF. RMCT, the means of mind controlling and slowly killing victims using pseudo-ELF - that is amplitude or pulse modulation of microwaves, UHF or RF - at ELF frequencies was born.

This was developed into a whole array of weapons systems based on the dramatic effects of pseudo-ELFs on mind controlling, elctro-chemically zombifying or inducing cancer in victims. ELF or pseudo-ELF was also found to be able to cut or damage DNA, which partially explains the carcinogenic effects of pulse or amplitude modulated microwave, UHF or RF.

In Britain, microwave is defined as between 300 MHz to 300 GHz, or in USA terms above 1 GHz.

Ross Adey's research was done on 450 MHz carriers used to broadcast pseudo-ELFs via pulse or amplitude modulation, his colleagues carried out the same research at 147 MHz (these frequencies have been defined as UHF and VHF respectively in US terms).

This research allows the weaponisation of any microwave, UHF or RF transmitter, if pseudo-ELF could be induced upon it by pulse or amplitude modulation at ELF frequency. The new science of RMCT spawned a new range of EM weapons to mind control and murder by use of pseudo-ELF.

For a specific example, the new TETRA system which will be used by the police and emergency services in the UK for communication, uses between 380 and 400 MHz, which is switched on and off at such a pulse rate that a pseudo-ELF of 17.6 Hz (17.6 times per second) is produced. this means the brain and nervous system are hit by pulses of UHF (USA terms) microwave (UK terms) every 1/17.6th of a second. This is rather like electrochemical hammer blows to the head at a rate of 17.6 every second. Some of us find hammer drills irritating to listen to, imagine 17.6 hammer-like blows being delivered to the nervous and endocrinal system, at a cellular level - might this not have a disruptive effect on the organism? Since the cells communicate to each other in the ELF range, these hammer-like blows of pseudo-ELF disrupts and derange cellular activities, leading to dysfunction, behavioural changes and onset of carcinogenic proteins which can lead to the organism developing tumours.

The UK Government is now spending £2.5 million to fully implement a nation-wide deployment of CIA mind-control technology. The TETRA system pulses at 17.6 Hz broadcast at 400 MHz which is essentially the Pandora Project funded by the CIA in the late '60s and early '70s. Dr Ross Adey, the chief researcher on the Pandora Project has released a video to leading UK researchers which proves that not only does the TETRA system cause ELF zombification by massive release of calcium ions in the cerebral cortex and the nervous system, but the activated calcium ions also cause massive hormonal disturbances which lead to frenzied imbalances, emotional and physical states.

This system will be used by all UK police and emergency services by the end of the year, as the Home Office has sold off all police frequencies, so they are forced to use the new system. Use of the TETRA system by the police will lead to psychotronicaly controlled officers who may be totally controlled in any situation and are very useful for states of economic or social chaos where extreme and violent behaviour is needed without any conscious or moral compunction - so-called police robots.

30,000 transmitters will be placed around the country to maximise the effects on the local UK population - mass mind control. Anyone who has complained of these transmitters has received a letter from the Government informing them that if the transmitters are not positioned where the Government wishes, there can be no guarantee then of police protection, which will lead to higher insurance premiums for the householder. A leading UK newspaper tried to run this story, but had the item quashed by high-level Government intervention.

Murder and Mind Control - the Secret Uses of Microwaves by the British Army - Tim Rifat

Greek Cypriots have been rioting outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus, protesting against the destruction of 190 foot microwave towers, which are to be used by the British Army and NATO to broadcast high-power microwaves. A Greek MP was arrested by the police and the 1000+ Greek Cypriots stormed the jail and broke him out. It appears that these microwave antennae are to be used by the British and NATO for 2 purposes:

1. A massive build up of NATO forces in Cyprus in order to support Ariel Sharon's forthcoming genocidal war against the Palestinians and to occupy the Lebanon as a so-called peace-keeping force after Israel has sterilised the area. This situation comes about because ultra-rich Jewish families own the West via the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England, and most of the multi-national companies that trade in the so-called free world.

2. The Turkish government has refused NATO carte blanche passage through its country and the Turkish military have refused NATO's request that the Turkish armed forces come totally under their control if the need may arise. This dictates that there is no passage for NATO to support Israel unless they use Cyprus.

Cyprus is a perfect situ for the NATO strategy of causing war between 2 belligerent parties and then taking over that country as a so-called peace keeping force; examples of this being Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia - where NATO arms, organises and co-ordinates both sides of the conflict - and the failed Chechen rebellion which was armed and co-ordinated by America and Britain. To stir up a war in Cyprus, the British are building these transmitters with an aim to mind controlling the Greek Cypriots into a state of mindless violence; the frequency for this being 11.3 Hz, amplitude or pulse modulated from the microwave transmitters. This frequency will cause the Cypriots in the South to feel uncontrollable anger and British and NATO hope will cause a far-ranging conflict in Cyprus so NATO can bomb the Turks into submission and take over the island as an English stepping-stone to aid Israel.

This may seem far-fetched, but the British government is in the process of mind controlling the entire UK population using CIA research from the Pandora Project and the so-called TETRA system which costs £2.5 billion will place 30,000 transmitters in every urban conurbation in the UK. Further to this, the British Army has long experience of using microwaves for murder and mind control in Northern Ireland. In 1977, the CIA contacted Margaret Thatcher and gave her all the details, elf frequencies, to induce cancer, paranoia (4.5 Hz), depression (6.66 Hz), manic rage (11.3 Hz) --- To support this assertion that the British Amy have been targeting Catholic areas with high-power microwaves, Dr Damien Burn - 38 years General Practitioner in the Falls Road, West Belfast - and Mary Allen, South Armagh Cross Maglen - have protested vehemently that British Army bases are broadcasting high-power microwaves, causing massive cancer deaths among the Catholics.

Strange cancers which never would occur are being found in many Catholics and the largest cause of death in Catholics now is cancer. Whole street-fulls of Catholics next to army bases are dying of cancer. This was reported by Amanda Doherty in the Sunday Mirror, 12.07.98, in the Features Eire edition: Living in Fear, the Cancer that Stalks our Streets.

The microwaving of peace protesters in Greenham Common, a US airbase in Britain, is common knowledge. The murder and mind control by the British Army of the entire Catholic community of Northern Ireland is not. Taking this into account with the TETRA system that seeks to turn British police and the public into zombies using microwave and elf, the deployment of microwave transmitters in Cyprus has a more covertly nasty raison d'etre than simply extending NATO's communication network.

If the British succeed in building these microwave mind control transmitters, expect renewed conflict in Cyprus between Greeks and Turks, deployment of NATO forces to quell violence, and massive support for Israel by the West in the forthcoming Middle East War.

Update on Murder and Mind Control: The Secret Uses of ELF Modulated Microwave and RF By the British Army

The CIA-funded Dr Ross Adey to investigate the mind-controlling and hormonal-effecting uses of pulse and amplitude-modulated microwave and RF (radio frequencies). Ross Adey experimented with 450MHz, which in the UK system is microwave, as the British take 400MHz to 400GHz as microwave. His associate, Dr Blackmore, experimented with RF frequencies at around 150MHz. This was developed by the British Army, the Secret Police, into a variety of pulse-modulated, or amplitude modulated, radio frequency or microwave transmitters, which focused on the target ELF which had bioactive effects to kill or mind control their targets. The amplitude or pulse modulation of the carrier wave allows the British Army/Secret Police (MI5) operatives to induce ELF frequencies on the victim, even though the carrier wave is in the RF or microwave range.

British Build Their Own 21st Century Version of HAARP in Greek Cyprus

The British Army are building an immensely expensive ultra-sophisticated version of HAARP, the US mind-control/weather-control weapon of mass destruction, in their large army base at Greek Cyprus. 200 metre antennae are being constructed, powered by megawatt power stations to fire pulse radio frequency at between 8 and 16 MHz. Apart from its use as over-the-horizon RADAR, the pulse modulation of the RF can be modulated at ELF frequency to mind control the surrounding countries. The British have stated it is targeted on Iran and Iraq and like the system in Norway, which can bounce RF off the ionosphere, the British version has the ability - like HAARP - to bounce its millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere to control the weather, destroy communication networks, and to violently upset whole populations by inducing ELF behavioural changes, neurological changes, and physical trauma. British computers can change the frequency to 16MHz, so it acts in its ionosphere back-scatter mode; this allows focussed beams of megawatt RF to be targeted on Baghdad, Tehran, Damascus...etc. In the 16MHz mode, the inhabitants of cities can literally be traumatised into submission, or so behaviourally disorganised that the city is made uninhabitable.

As well as this capability, 16MHz beam can bounce off the troposphere - which is much lower than the ionosphere - causing atmospheric pressure inversions, which can literally knock aircraft out of the sky.

Considering Southern Cyprus allows this British super-HAARP to attack Turkey, Russia, the Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and other surrounding areas, its deployment by the British Army puts them on par with the Americans as a military superpower. Considering their track-record of microwave genocide in Northern Ireland, the use of CIA research by Dr Ross Adey, in the form of TETRA, to mind control British Police and the UK population, the targets of the British super-HAARP should not be surprised if murder and mind control are beamed down upon them with megawatt ferocity by the British Army.

Reports by Tim Rifat, UK's leading expert on Psychotronics.

TOGETHER IN TRUTH WE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD!

[marpat]

Yes to all of the above!

To those who think it is 'all in the mind' A few years ago I travelled to some very remote areas well away from any towers and found my thoughts were clearer and I felt less oppressed - It can sometimes feel like my head is made from jelly! BUT as soon as I came back into the UK it felt like a thick blanket had been thrown over my head. This was not a case of post trip blues but a real and detectable sense.

That might be a subjective experience though. If you feel the UK is some oppressive place anyway then when he you will feel oppressed. The thing is in remote places the air is going to be cleaner and you are far away from the rat race so that is going to have a natural effect on you anyway

[bealert]

Mass UK Mind Control Technology Now A Reality

By Tim Rifat

Introduction by Ivan Fraser

ivanfraser@cableinet.co.uk

The author of these articles, Tim Rifat, is Europe's foremost independent author and scientist specialising in psychotronics, the use of biophysical and electronic technology to influence and kill the human organism; his forthcoming book: Remote Viewing, gives hints of the breakthroughs he has made in the physics of psy-warfare.

The history of mind control at a distance, remote mind control technology (RMCT) begins in America with the research of Dr Ross Adey and his colleagues in the late '60's, working on the CIA-funded Pandora Project. Adey found that ELF (extremely low frequency) signals on the region of 1-20 Hz (with 0.1 increments having different effects), had bioactive and psychoactive effects. The research was important to the CIA for they wished to find frequencies which could mind control humans from a distance (RMCT). Pandora researchers discovered that the 6-16 Hz region had drastic effects on brain and on nervous and endocrinal systems. This could enable major dysfunction in the target victim if research on cats and monkeys could be duplicated - the research on human victims still remains classified.

A major problem was that ELF transmissions need vast antennae arrays; Adey's research showed that pseudo-ELF, caused by pulse or amplitude modulated microwave, UHF or RF carrier waves at ELF frequencies not only duplicated the psycho- and bioactive effects of ELF, but due to the highly penetrative effects of S-band microwaves (low frequency microwaves) or UHF and RF these combined to have a synergistic effect (especially microwaves) in disrupting biochemical function to amplify the effects of pseudo-ELF. In layman's terms, microwave and pseudo-ELF were more effective at mind control than pure ELF. RMCT, the means of mind controlling and slowly killing victims using pseudo-ELF - that is amplitude or pulse modulation of microwaves, UHF or RF - at ELF frequencies was born.

This was developed into a whole array of weapons systems based on the dramatic effects of pseudo-ELFs on mind controlling, elctro-chemically zombifying or inducing cancer in victims. ELF or pseudo-ELF was also found to be able to cut or damage DNA, which partially explains the carcinogenic effects of pulse or amplitude modulated microwave, UHF or RF.

In Britain, microwave is defined as between 300 MHz to 300 GHz, or in USA terms above 1 GHz.

Ross Adey's research was done on 450 MHz carriers used to broadcast pseudo-ELFs via pulse or amplitude modulation, his colleagues carried out the same research at 147 MHz (these frequencies have been defined as UHF and VHF respectively in US terms).

This research allows the weaponisation of any microwave, UHF or RF transmitter, if pseudo-ELF could be induced upon it by pulse or amplitude modulation at ELF frequency. The new science of RMCT spawned a new range of EM weapons to mind control and murder by use of pseudo-ELF.

For a specific example, the new TETRA system which will be used by the police and emergency services in the UK for communication, uses between 380 and 400 MHz, which is switched on and off at such a pulse rate that a pseudo-ELF of 17.6 Hz (17.6 times per second) is produced. this means the brain and nervous system are hit by pulses of UHF (USA terms) microwave (UK terms) every 1/17.6th of a second. This is rather like electrochemical hammer blows to the head at a rate of 17.6 every second. Some of us find hammer drills irritating to listen to, imagine 17.6 hammer-like blows being delivered to the nervous and endocrinal system, at a cellular level - might this not have a disruptive effect on the organism? Since the cells communicate to each other in the ELF range, these hammer-like blows of pseudo-ELF disrupts and derange cellular activities, leading to dysfunction, behavioural changes and onset of carcinogenic proteins which can lead to the organism developing tumours.

The UK Government is now spending £2.5 million to fully implement a nation-wide deployment of CIA mind-control technology. The TETRA system pulses at 17.6 Hz broadcast at 400 MHz which is essentially the Pandora Project funded by the CIA in the late '60s and early '70s. Dr Ross Adey, the chief researcher on the Pandora Project has released a video to leading UK researchers which proves that not only does the TETRA system cause ELF zombification by massive release of calcium ions in the cerebral cortex and the nervous system, but the activated calcium ions also cause massive hormonal disturbances which lead to frenzied imbalances, emotional and physical states.

This system will be used by all UK police and emergency services by the end of the year, as the Home Office has sold off all police frequencies, so they are forced to use the new system. Use of the TETRA system by the police will lead to psychotronicaly controlled officers who may be totally controlled in any situation and are very useful for states of economic or social chaos where extreme and violent behaviour is needed without any conscious or moral compunction - so-called police robots.

30,000 transmitters will be placed around the country to maximise the effects on the local UK population - mass mind control. Anyone who has complained of these transmitters has received a letter from the Government informing them that if the transmitters are not positioned where the Government wishes, there can be no guarantee then of police protection, which will lead to higher insurance premiums for the householder. A leading UK newspaper tried to run this story, but had the item quashed by high-level Government intervention.

Murder and Mind Control - the Secret Uses of Microwaves by the British Army - Tim Rifat

Greek Cypriots have been rioting outside the British military base in Southern Cyprus, protesting against the destruction of 190 foot microwave towers, which are to be used by the British Army and NATO to broadcast high-power microwaves. A Greek MP was arrested by the police and the 1000+ Greek Cypriots stormed the jail and broke him out. It appears that these microwave antennae are to be used by the British and NATO for 2 purposes:

1. A massive build up of NATO forces in Cyprus in order to support Ariel Sharon's forthcoming genocidal war against the Palestinians and to occupy the Lebanon as a so-called peace-keeping force after Israel has sterilised the area. This situation comes about because ultra-rich Jewish families own the West via the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England, and most of the multi-national companies that trade in the so-called free world.

2. The Turkish government has refused NATO carte blanche passage through its country and the Turkish military have refused NATO's request that the Turkish armed forces come totally under their control if the need may arise. This dictates that there is no passage for NATO to support Israel unless they use Cyprus.

Cyprus is a perfect situ for the NATO strategy of causing war between 2 belligerent parties and then taking over that country as a so-called peace keeping force; examples of this being Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia - where NATO arms, organises and co-ordinates both sides of the conflict - and the failed Chechen rebellion which was armed and co-ordinated by America and Britain. To stir up a war in Cyprus, the British are building these transmitters with an aim to mind controlling the Greek Cypriots into a state of mindless violence; the frequency for this being 11.3 Hz, amplitude or pulse modulated from the microwave transmitters. This frequency will cause the Cypriots in the South to feel uncontrollable anger and British and NATO hope will cause a far-ranging conflict in Cyprus so NATO can bomb the Turks into submission and take over the island as an English stepping-stone to aid Israel.

This may seem far-fetched, but the British government is in the process of mind controlling the entire UK population using CIA research from the Pandora Project and the so-called TETRA system which costs £2.5 billion will place 30,000 transmitters in every urban conurbation in the UK. Further to this, the British Army has long experience of using microwaves for murder and mind control in Northern Ireland. In 1977, the CIA contacted Margaret Thatcher and gave her all the details, elf frequencies, to induce cancer, paranoia (4.5 Hz), depression (6.66 Hz), manic rage (11.3 Hz) --- To support this assertion that the British Amy have been targeting Catholic areas with high-power microwaves, Dr Damien Burn - 38 years General Practitioner in the Falls Road, West Belfast - and Mary Allen, South Armagh Cross Maglen - have protested vehemently that British Army bases are broadcasting high-power microwaves, causing massive cancer deaths among the Catholics.

Strange cancers which never would occur are being found in many Catholics and the largest cause of death in Catholics now is cancer. Whole street-fulls of Catholics next to army bases are dying of cancer. This was reported by Amanda Doherty in the Sunday Mirror, 12.07.98, in the Features Eire edition: Living in Fear, the Cancer that Stalks our Streets.

The microwaving of peace protesters in Greenham Common, a US airbase in Britain, is common knowledge. The murder and mind control by the British Army of the entire Catholic community of Northern Ireland is not. Taking this into account with the TETRA system that seeks to turn British police and the public into zombies using microwave and elf, the deployment of microwave transmitters in Cyprus has a more covertly nasty raison d'etre than simply extending NATO's communication network.

If the British succeed in building these microwave mind control transmitters, expect renewed conflict in Cyprus between Greeks and Turks, deployment of NATO forces to quell violence, and massive support for Israel by the West in the forthcoming Middle East War.

Update on Murder and Mind Control: The Secret Uses of ELF Modulated Microwave and RF By the British Army

The CIA-funded Dr Ross Adey to investigate the mind-controlling and hormonal-effecting uses of pulse and amplitude-modulated microwave and RF (radio frequencies). Ross Adey experimented with 450MHz, which in the UK system is microwave, as the British take 400MHz to 400GHz as microwave. His associate, Dr Blackmore, experimented with RF frequencies at around 150MHz. This was developed by the British Army, the Secret Police, into a variety of pulse-modulated, or amplitude modulated, radio frequency or microwave transmitters, which focused on the target ELF which had bioactive effects to kill or mind control their targets. The amplitude or pulse modulation of the carrier wave allows the British Army/Secret Police (MI5) operatives to induce ELF frequencies on the victim, even though the carrier wave is in the RF or microwave range.

British Build Their Own 21st Century Version of HAARP in Greek Cyprus

The British Army are building an immensely expensive ultra-sophisticated version of HAARP, the US mind-control/weather-control weapon of mass destruction, in their large army base at Greek Cyprus. 200 metre antennae are being constructed, powered by megawatt power stations to fire pulse radio frequency at between 8 and 16 MHz. Apart from its use as over-the-horizon RADAR, the pulse modulation of the RF can be modulated at ELF frequency to mind control the surrounding countries. The British have stated it is targeted on Iran and Iraq and like the system in Norway, which can bounce RF off the ionosphere, the British version has the ability - like HAARP - to bounce its millions of Watts of 8MHz transmissions off the ionosphere to control the weather, destroy communication networks, and to violently upset whole populations by inducing ELF behavioural changes, neurological changes, and physical trauma. British computers can change the frequency to 16MHz, so it acts in its ionosphere back-scatter mode; this allows focussed beams of megawatt RF to be targeted on Baghdad, Tehran, Damascus...etc. In the 16MHz mode, the inhabitants of cities can literally be traumatised into submission, or so behaviourally disorganised that the city is made uninhabitable.

As well as this capability, 16MHz beam can bounce off the troposphere - which is much lower than the ionosphere - causing atmospheric pressure inversions, which can literally knock aircraft out of the sky.

Considering Southern Cyprus allows this British super-HAARP to attack Turkey, Russia, the Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and other surrounding areas, its deployment by the British Army puts them on par with the Americans as a military superpower. Considering their track-record of microwave genocide in Northern Ireland, the use of CIA research by Dr Ross Adey, in the form of TETRA, to mind control British Police and the UK population, the targets of the British super-HAARP should not be surprised if murder and mind control are beamed down upon them with megawatt ferocity by the British Army.

Reports by Tim Rifat, UK's leading expert on Psychotronics.

TOGETHER IN TRUTH WE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD!
I think this was taken from a older post on the web round 2001 ...Anything it says could already be outdated or is this the updated version ?

[marpat]

Interesting how that article states that the British HAARP could subjugate and submit peoples wills in Baghdad and places like that. A casual observer might think that the locals are far from being mind control into conformance

[mystic nomad]

I think this was taken from a older post on the web round 2001 ...Anything it says could already be outdated or is this the updated version ?

It is an old article and I guess it's safe to say that technology is far more advanced now, however it is still very much relevant IMO.
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Mobile phone waves harmful to honeybees?

A plunge in beehive population has been reported from different parts of Kerala (Province of South Western India) and if measures are not taken to check mushrooming of mobile towers bees could be wiped out from Kerala within a decade, environmentalist and zoologist Dr Sainudeen Pattazhy warns

Electromagnetic waves emitted by mobile phones have become the latest threat to Kerala’s honeybees. A recent study points to the fact that the growing number of mobile towers put up to improve connectivity has resulted in a drastic drop in bee populations all over the state.

This not only poses a threat to the livelihoods of over 100,000 people engaged in apiculture across Kerala, it also constitutes a major environmental disaster. After all, honeybees are responsible for pollinating over 100 species of commonly eaten fruit and vegetables; without bees the entire food system could be in serious trouble.

Experiments conducted by Dr Sainuddin Pattazhy, who teaches at S N College in Punalur, in Kollam district, show that electromagnetic radiation from mobile towers and cell phones cripples the “navigational skills” of the worker bees that go out to collect nectar from flowers to sustain bee colonies.

In one of his experiments, Dr Pattazhy found that when a mobile phone was put near a beehive it caused the entire colony to collapse in just five to 10 days. Worker bees failed to return to the hive, leaving it with just the queen, eggs and hive-bound immature bees. The missing bees were never found.

Beekeepers across the state said several hives have been abruptly abandoned. Kerala has close to 6 lakh beehives, with 1-1.25 lakh people engaged in apiculture, mostly as an allied activity. A sharp decline has been noted in commercial beehives all over the state. The official explanation is that bees are susceptible to diseases and fall prey to attacks by wasps, ants, and wax moths.

Parackal Chacko, a beekeeper from Wayanad, says they believed the disappearance of beehives in the area, in the past few years, was due to climatic changes and attacks by hostile insects and pests. “The angle that mobile phone towers could be a threat should be seriously probed,” he says.

Dr Pattazhy warns: “Considering the recent plunge in beehive populations reported from different parts of Kerala, the trend could wipe out bees from Kerala within a decade.” Earlier, a study conducted in different parts of Kollam district in Kerala by a team of environmentalists found that radiation from mobile phone towers also threatened home sparrows that live in colonies close to human habitats, in urban areas.

According to Dr Pattazhy, insects and smaller animals are susceptible to the microwaves emitted by mobile towers and phones. He stresses that the phenomenon requires further study. (my emphasis)

Across the world, attention has been focused on supporting bees and other pollinators since the worrying discovery a few years ago of ‘colony collapse disorder (CCD)’, a mysterious ailment that causes entire colonies of honeybees to just disappear.

While such disappearances have occurred throughout the history of apiculture, the term ‘colony collapse disorder’ was first applied to a drastic increase in the number of disappearances of western honeybee colonies in North America, in late-2006.

European beekeepers observed a similar phenomenon in Belgium, France, the Netherlands, Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain; reports have also come in from Switzerland and Germany.

Although the cause or causes of the syndrome are not yet fully understood, cell phone radiation and genetically modified crops with pest control characteristics have recently been cited.

Source: PTI, August 31, 2009

[marpat]

Nice to see you using my post as a signature. I guess what I wrote is different to what you will expect people to see though. My context was regading NBC warfare wheres your signature has no context.