Who gives a fuck and who doesn't?

[james777]

Let's be real here for a moment.......do you honestly believe that there's some kind of reptillian fucks out here trying to munipulate the human race and enslave us?......LOL.....I have to laugh because this is BULLSHIT!!! There is not one shred of real evidence about this, just a bunch of wacked out brainwashed minds looking so hard to find a scapegoat and keep there minds occupied on something else rather than taking responsibilty for ourselves, our actions and our society!! We've overlooked, denied and refused the truth so much that now we're reduced to actually entertaining the idea of these so called genetic munipulators actually having a reality in our minds. I'm not blaming you entirely though, because in our society today there is so much brainwashing and deception going on that it takes a Strong, Clear, Focused, Unwavering mind to see through this facade of BULLSHIT! I know, I know, it's actually a little bit of fun to believe in these things that we have no control over, but in reality, it's just a way for us to NOT take responsibility for ourselves, actions....so on and so on......we need to take back the control of ourselves and our countries, our governments and societies, we're in control here and we are the only ones that can enslave ourselves...........If these reptillian niggas really do excist, then where the fuck are they...hiding in D.U.M.B.'s with other ET's and bio-robots and PLF's......LOL......common people, wake up here.......this brings me to my original question, "Who gives a fuck and who doesn't"? If anyone really cares about our human race, then we'll quit embracing this Luciferian Dogma about all this afformentioned shit and realize that Satan is the true enemy and he is doing a great job of keeping most of us mentally deprived of what's real...........And if by some chance I'm the irrational one, and I'm the crazy one because I don't believe in lizard gods and shit, and these fuckin' reps are real and shit, Fuck them anyways!!!!!! This is our planet and our lives and if they want to control us then they can kiss our asses....When did we become such pussies anyways and give in so easily, ecspecially to some fuckin' lizards!!! As far as I'm concerned we can all have gator boots and luggage...........lol..........lol........

[dragonfly]

you don´t have to believe in lizards or reptiles. but could you explain to me, how you can know for sure, that such things do not exsist? are you aware of how vast our universe is, and that we are still on the brink of learning about this universe. i am thinking of other dimensions too, and who knows which beings might occupy these realms. all i am asking from you, is to do your own research, and keep an open mind too.

i would say that there is credible evidence, that this realm has had visitors from other solar systems, in times past. i base this on the largest mysteries that mankind still hasn´t solved. the building of the pyramids? the ancient mayan culture, with streets of gold and a very advanced astronomy? all these questions, are still driving men to these places, in search for answers. i recall watching a programme from german television, back in 1997, and they tried re-building the pyramids, and did so in so many ways. and they finally gave up, and left the conclusion to be; "we do not have the knowledge needed to reconstruct these ancient monuments"; and i am not saying that aliens built them, but if some people little more than 10 years ago, with all the advanced technology avaliable, couldn´t re-build a pyramid; it leaves me to wonder what are we missing out on!?

it is a common claim that dinosaurs lived way before the first man stepped the earth, then howcome this myth is being put to silence, by evidence that a human footprint has been found in the print as one of a dinosaur? is it not true that as we progress in knowlegde and understanding, ceratin things which we believed in before, are put to silence. yes, today many laugh at the notion that life outside our realm, has ever made contact and interacted with us, however it seems to me, that evidence is coming forth and being found, that we are not the only ones, in this vast universe. it is therefore very likely, that it is not so insane, to claim other lifeforms are found, wen thinking of the vastness of our universe etc.

the first sailors whom reported about sightings of giant squids, they were also rediculed. somethings are very hard to believe indeed, but if everything else fails, then the remaining must be the closest to the true.

love & peaceful thoughts; from Dragonfly :)

[smariot]

What makes satan a more plausable explanation for the worlds ills than lizard men? If we decided that lucifer and his merry band of fallen angels appear to us as humanoids with horns and scaley skin, and that the leaders of our world were possesed by demons, would you feel any better?

[i am all i am]

Let's be real here for a moment.......do you honestly believe that there's some kind of reptillian fucks out here trying to munipulate the human race and enslave us?......LOL.....I have to laugh because this is BULLSHIT!!! There is not one shred of real evidence about this, just a bunch of wacked out brainwashed minds looking so hard to find a scapegoat and keep there minds occupied on something else rather than taking responsibilty for ourselves, our actions and our society!! We've overlooked, denied and refused the truth so much that now we're reduced to actually entertaining the idea of these so called genetic munipulators actually having a reality in our minds. I'm not blaming you entirely though, because in our society today there is so much brainwashing and deception going on that it takes a Strong, Clear, Focused, Unwavering mind to see through this facade of BULLSHIT! I know, I know, it's actually a little bit of fun to believe in these things that we have no control over, but in reality, it's just a way for us to NOT take responsibility for ourselves, actions....so on and so on......we need to take back the control of ourselves and our countries, our governments and societies, we're in control here and we are the only ones that can enslave ourselves...........If these reptillian niggas really do excist, then where the fuck are they...hiding in D.U.M.B.'s with other ET's and bio-robots and PLF's......LOL......common people, wake up here.......this brings me to my original question, "Who gives a fuck and who doesn't"? If anyone really cares about our human race, then we'll quit embracing this Luciferian Dogma about all this afformentioned shit and realize that Satan is the true enemy and he is doing a great job of keeping most of us mentally deprived of what's real...........And if by some chance I'm the irrational one, and I'm the crazy one because I don't believe in lizard gods and shit, and these fuckin' reps are real and shit, Fuck them anyways!!!!!! This is our planet and our lives and if they want to control us then they can kiss our asses....When did we become such pussies anyways and give in so easily, ecspecially to some fuckin' lizards!!! As far as I'm concerned we can all have gator boots and luggage...........lol..........lol........

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Another christian crusade to attempt to convert people to their religous cult !!!

As well as racist comments and accusations !!!


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I know it's easy to get caught up in all the different perceptions and interpretations of religion, but we are all sitting here talking about things we just don't know about. You were born, I was born, we grew up, we were taught what we were taught and believe what we believe. There is great deception among us and few of us really have a clear and peaceful vision of the reality of reality. The human race was created for companionship for the creator of all things and their is an immediate danger for those of us who deny this. Satan is a duplicator. His purpose is to throw us (humans) off track by giving us all different scenarios, stories, religions and traps. The very things we read on this site about aliens genetically munipulating the human race so they can rule us is just one example of what I'm referring to. If you buy into that type of bullshit then the trap is supressing your mind, which by the way is the only thing that you have control over. It's time to stop feeding this machine of deception and take a stand for what is real and quit being pussies hiding behind theories derived of intellegentless minds. Fuck satan and fuck lies! Realize who you really are and understand there is a WAR for our souls and the only thing we have to do is accept the free gift of salvation from Jesus Christ which is Grace, and we'll be saved from this den of iniquity. Look for the signs of logic, for example, I could sit here and type about Muhommad, Buddha, Baal, Dagon, Thor all these obviously deceptive so-called saviours and you would all sit there and say, "hmmmmm, he does bring up some good points". But the second I mention Jesus Christ or God, suddenly you're angered and start throwing thoughtless and sensless accusations about I don't know what I'm talking about and how Jesus Christ was just a man, not the son of God, and then start going through all your brainwashed mental files trying to come up with reasons and ways for you to convince yourself that I'm wrong and I don't know what I'm saying, but in doing that, YOU're just proving my point further. All I'm saying is to STOP, breathe, listen to your inner soul, it's telling you the truth, you don't need books and thoughts of men and women that you know nothing about to help you determine truth. Knowlegde comes from within and gaining access to that will help you bypass all of this ridiculous shit that we all seem to be neck-deep in. God is waiting for you to turn the keys he has given you, so PLEASE, use YOUR intellect, it won't steer you wrong. I know you all love David Icke and even I've read his books, I'm with him on a lot of topics, but he also is trapped in his own brainwash and could use some understanding and enlightenment, be careful, because he just may be the deceptive shepard leading you to your own slaughter..................................God Bless


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DOGMA

DON'T TRY TO CONVINCE US,
OF YOUR FALSE IDEAL,
THERE ARE NO SEPARATE COLOURS,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I WASN'T BORN TO WORK FOR YOU,
DON'T SELL ME YOUR IDEAL,
MY EXPERIENCE IS THE CLUE,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I WASN'T BORN A SINNER,
YOUR RELIGION IS A SPIEL,
YOU SAY A LOSER NEEDS A WINNER,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I HOPE ONE DAY TO HOLD YOUR HAND,
AND WATCH THE JOY ON YOUR FACE,
WHEN THE WORLD WILL UNDERSTAND,
WE ALL BELONG TO THE HUMAN RACE.



CHRISTIANITY

666, THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST,
ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS JOIN THE FEAST,
DENYING THE TRUTH THAT'S INSIDE,
SO THEIR ACTIONS THEY CAN HIDE.

THE CONVERSION OF ALL IS THEIR GOAL,
SO THEY CAN FEED UPON YOUR SOUL,
AND THE JOY OF LIFE BECOMES A COST,
FOR ALL IN FEAR TO BE LOST.

THE BLIND AND DEAF ALWAYS PREACH,
OF A PLACE THEY CANNOT REACH,
SO LISTEN CAREFULLY TO WHAT IS SAID,
FOR ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS WANT YOU DEAD.

BUT WHEN YOU SEE AND YOU HEAR,
ALL BECOMES PERFECTLY CLEAR,
FOR THEN IT IS THAT YOU WILL KNOW,
TO YOU LOVE WILL ALWAYS FLOW.


DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY

THIS IS THE MOTTO OF OUR DAY,
DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY,
FOR A PREACHER PREACHED UNTO ME,
THE SEPERATION OF ETERNITY.

HE CALLED ME WEAK, HE CALLED ME A SINNER,
THEN HE TOLD ME THERE IS ONLY ONE WINNER,
THE SON OF GOD, HE IS GOD INCARNATE,
AND MORTAL MANS DEATH WAS HIS FATE.

HE DIED ON A CROSS TO ABSOLVE ALL SIN,
AND ONLY THEN DID OUR LIVES BEGIN,
THIS IS THE TRUTH DON'T TURN AWAY,
DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY.

SO I ASKED A QUESTION TO BE SURE,
HE COULD SEE HIS STORY HAD A FLAW,
“IF ETERNAL GOD BE THE ONE HE BE,
HOW COULD DEATH BE HIS DESTINY ?”.

AND THEN HE TOLD ME HIS DEATH WAS A GIFT,
FOR THE SINS OF HUMANITY HE DID UPLIFT,
AND RESURRECTED TO SHOW THE PROOF,
THAT THIS STORY IS THE TRUTH.

AND AS HIS STORY PROVED HIS STORY,
HE SMILED AT ME WITH ALL GODS GLORY,
AND I LAUGHED AND SMILED TO SEE,
HE COULDN'T HIDE GOD INSIDE FROM ME.

NOW WITH WORDS HEARTFELT I DID SAY,
“THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME GOD TODAY”,
THEN HE LOST HIS SMILE AND TURNED AWAY,
SAYING DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY.




With LOVE.

From the "religion" thread.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by awakensong Not to mention the fact that IN CONTEXT it says no illegitimate child was to enter "his temple"......
G'day Awakensong,

Would this mean, "IN CONTEXT", that as Mary was not legally married to the Holy Spirit or God, that Jesus was illegitimate, and therefore not allowed to enter the Kingdom of Heaven ???

With LOVE.

Jesus Christ is a False Messiah

According to Jesus’ admissions, as well as the Bible’s prophecies, Jesus of Nazareth could not have been the Messiah. This of course, would invalidate Christianity as we know it. The compilation presented here shall be split in three sections. The first shall be the biblical prophecies that were made in order to identify the messiah, which Jesus does not fulfill. The second shall be the prophecies that Christians use to say that Jesus was the Messiah, yet they clearly fail. The third set shall be the prophecies and statements Jesus made yet they are false and have never came true.

Prophecies to Identify the Messiah, Which Jesus Does Not Fulfill:

1) Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means "God with us." Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible.

2) The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled.

3) Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled.

http://www.evilbible.com/jesus_false.htm


With LOVE.

[infinitely free]

You know james777,

when you really grasp the CONCEPT, of what 'Reality' is ...

Well, what are a few lizards? They ain't shit!!!

[infinitely free]

Why do i get the idea that you don't like this forum?

If these reptillian niggas really do excist, then where the fuck are they......

Niggas? :confused:

[i_am]

Let's be real here for a moment

so much brainwashing and deception going on that it takes a Strong, Clear, Focused, Unwavering mind to see through this facade of BULLSHIT!

If anyone really cares about our human race, then we'll quit embracing this Luciferian Dogma about all this afformentioned shit and realize that Satan is the true enemy and he is doing a great job of keeping most of us mentally deprived of what's real.

Ummm! OK Lets be real :rolleyes:

From what I have read and observed, since looong before hearing of David Icke etc, the best examples of brainwashing come from religion, be it christianity or any of the other multitude of religions, dogmas, cults etc. This is the way it is!! Don't dare question what we tell you or our LOVING GOD will strike you down or condemn you to eternal damnation. They control you with fear. That isn't brainwashing?

Forget the mind, it tells you what it has been conditioned to tell you. What does your intuition, knowing, feeling, gut feeling tell you? If it tells you that your beliefs (in your mind) are right, then fine. But don't expect everyone else to 'feel' the same.

Satan is the TRUE enemy? Prove it!! You can't any more than the other BULLSHIT to which you referred. And please don't quote the bible. It proves nothing. It is a book written by man, interpreted, misinterpreted, had whole books removed and been manipulated. You want to believe in it...fine. Others believe in other beings....no problem! We are all on our own path and what rings true for one, may not for another.

I surely don't have all the answers but I am free to believe what I like.

[timestop24]

There's little else I could say. Thank you guys for covering it all already. :)

[gordonfreeman]

Of course, Reptilians exists! Who's responsible for the whole mess of the human race and planet Earth. The malevolent alien alliances. The reptilians, the mantis, hostile nordic groups.

[james777]

Well, it seems that I have a lot to address. So I'll start with the first reply and work my way down. Before I get started, I want to thank all of you for taking part in my little thread here.

DRAGONFLY; First of all I want to thank you for the most intellegent and articulate response, but I think I need to clear a few things first. You asked me, "you don´t have to believe in lizards or reptiles. but could you explain to me, how you can know for sure, that such things do not exsist?" My response to that is I never said they don't exist, or at least that's not what I meant. I was referring to the so-called Reps that genetically munipulate us and want to enslave us. Now, I can't prove that they don't and you can't prove that they do, so round and round we go, but hear this. If these reps are using genetics to munipulate us or enslave us or eat us or whatever it is they intend to do with us, than why is there so much disease and sickness. Why would they pick such a weak and fragile species to enslave? And if in fact they did originally create us then how could they mess this up? How can they have the technolgy to fly billions of light years, travel through time and space, create us, but not know how to create us with perfection? It just doesn't make any good logical sense. Secondly, I would like to say that I agree 100% with you that we've had visits from other realms and outer space. We ourselves are in this world, but not of it. Before man there were heavenly beings who travelled the stars, built empires and lived free. Like any civilization, there was a heiarchy of power. You have the most powerful, which we refer to commonly as God, The second in command, commonly referred to as satan and so on. Proof of these heavenly beings is simply; structures and pyramid-like structures, cities, roads, runways, underground tube systems and so-on on other planets. Now you may have never heard of any of this, but just read up on it, many ex-NASA employees are coming foreward with hard evidence proving many things about our own solar system, but let me stay on the point here. So, eventually, the 2nd in command wanted to be 1st and having a legion of followers tried to over-throw the almighty one that was 1st in command and failed miserably. This is when he and his followers were banned from the third heavens and was given dominion over the second heavens(the universe) and our heavens(the milky-way). This is when Lucifer the bright morning star was seperated from eternal entry into the third heavens. Then the 1st in command, God, decided that he wanted to make a new creation, he decided to create man. He put us on the perfect earth and gave us perfect conditions and even made us in HIS own image also giving us power over other creations he made, including the ones banned from the third heavens. So jealousy crept in! Lucifer and his legion were now pitted against humanity, because we were now the most prized possesion of the Almighty! To make a long story short, this is when the deception and lies crept in, this is when humanity, also given free will, began to fall away from the creator. Lucifer and his legions began appearing to man, giving him great knowlegde (such as pyramid building, cosmology...ect) and showing him great wonders, teaching us of the heavens and all sorts of things. Since they were inter-dimensional creatures and could seamlessly flow back and forth through space and time, they came up with great stories of how they themselves were gods from other places and realms and man foolishly believed this. The whole time man thinks he is advancing toward a greater future but inevitably dividing future generations. Lucifer is happy now because he has corrupted God's greatest creation and now he can lay low and let us destroy ourselves, confuse ourselves and damn ourselves. This is why God sent phrophets and eventually God came to earth in human form (Jesus Christ) to teach us and help guide us through this completely tangled web. I have much more to say on this subject, but for now, we'll leave it at that. Hopefully I've explained myself here a little better. I know that many will pass remarks about what I just said, but that in itself is telling me that I've got their attention. I guess I'm kinda like the sailors that were the first to see the giant squids.

SMARIOT; Now you've just hit the nail right on the head, thanks for understanding! You know more than you think you do.

I AM ALL I AM; I apoligize for using a remark you deem as racist. I didn't mean anything offensive by it. Also, I never asked anyone to join a crusade or activate in an occult. I'm merely dropping knowledge that you appear not ready to accept. All your cute little poems and fancy animations are good and well, but you'll get to a point when the chip on your shoulder needs to be released and then and only then you'll have the spirit and capacity to understand truth when it's in front of you. LET GO of the baggage man!

LADY LITA; Who said anything about horned demons or a god who doesn't exist?? You've become quite defensive for no reason. I'm sure you did see what you think you saw, but you just didn't and don't understand what it is. It's okay though, it's hard to understand things, ecspecially when you're already confused. I'm definitely not angry, you just must be sensitive.

INFINITELY FREE; Again, sorry if my wordage offended you, I meant no racism by it. I was talking about lizards for goodness sake! Oh ya, and I never said I didn't believe in lizards, just not the one's hell-bent on enslaving the human race. By the way, I LOVE this forum!!!

I AM; Okay, you need to pump your brakes. If your not brainwashed, then why are you so mad that I made a remark about people being brainwashed? Seems a little suspicious to me and what did I ever say about religion? Seems like you have some serious issues that you need to vent. When did I mention God striking anyone down or sending anyone into eternal damnation. Are you even reading what I've typed? Seems to me that you have a lot of fears about this subject, and believe me I can empathize with you, but brother, fear is not a spirit of the loving God, so whoever you're listening to, you may wanna thoroughly inspect! I don't expect anyone to feel anyway, it's not my concern. I just drop knowledge and if you understand it, you understand it, if you don't then you don't. Try not to react with mis-guided emotion, follow your own advice and listen to your innerself.

TIMESTOP24; Common, that's all you got for me? You're gonna let everyone else speak for you?

[james777]

GORDANFREEMAN; Wow Gordy, I don't even know what to say to that. I would say that we (humans) are responsible for our own problems. Why is everyone always looking for a scapegoat or someone else to blame?

[lumukanda]

i don't disagree with what you say about god and the angels, the thing is it's a story that works on so many levels, i mean you could see the split of yaweh and lucifer as the point where duality was concieved, the point at which this physical universe was created, that classic good vs evil, except, from my opinion anyway, it's just two oposite poles that react against each other, like a battery i suppose and the energy created is this universe. in african mythology it's depicted as the eternal struggle between hot and cold, from the ashes created from this battle, arose MA, who created the world.

on another level you've got the whole story of the annunaki, where you could say that enlil was yaweh and enki was lucifer, the hell in christianity was called the absu by the sumerians, and i personally think it refers to a place on the planet, southern africa to be precise.
the book of genesis is just a shortened version of an older sumerian text, complete with the garden of E.DIN, later called edinu by the akkadians and finally became eden.

i think often people balk at the site of words they don't like (i am guilty of this), but if you look closer, you say satan has got us to a point that we are now easy prey, fighting ourselves, thats what the illuminati is doing, same thing different names. my big problem with religions is this talk of having to fear god, avert your eyes and all that, seeing as we are just the energy resulting from the two poles, we are a part of everything that is, we are the good and the bad, we need the good and the bad to exist in this universe, it is a universe of opposing forces, so the aim, if we are to end the enslavement we began so long ago, we have to realise that the good is the bad, and the bad is the good, they are both constructs of the same 'machine' if you will, we've got to get from being in the machine, to being behind it, the way it was before this universe.

and on the subject of reptiles, hell, they may exist the may not, but that reptilian lack of emotion and compassion exists for sure, it's that we should be concentrating on, tackle that and whether reppies exist in the physical sense becomes less important.

[pollock]

GORDANFREEMAN; Wow Gordy, I don't even know what to say to that. I would say that we (humans) are responsible for our own problems. Why is everyone always looking for a scapegoat or someone else to blame?

HMM, are these your words??
If anyone really cares about our human race, then we'll quit embracing this Luciferian Dogma about all this afformentioned shit and realize that Satan is the true enemy and he is doing a great job of keeping most of us mentally deprived of what's real...........


Different scapegoat maybe, but same same!

Im curious, what is your point in asking these questions, why is it so important to you what holographic image others apply to the enemy?

F

[i_am]

Wow!! WTG james!! You have been a member of this forum for all of three days and you think you know what makes certain people tick. You sure know how to make friends and influence people, don’t you?

For starters, I was not mad but I am a tad pissed off now. I do not need some amateur psychologist telling me “ that you have a lot of fears about this subject, and believe me I can empathize with you, but brother, fear is not a spirit of the loving God, so whoever you're listening to, you may wanna thoroughly inspect!”

I listen to me! Been inspecting me for more years than I care to remember. I trust me. I am happy with me and I know I will not lie. If YOU had read what I said, I said that we find our own truth by listening to our feeling not our head. And, incidentally, I am not your brother or anyone else’s for that matter
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I addressed your points.

Brainwashing: I did not say that you said anything about religion. I was simply stating that the most brainwashing is done by religions. That is my opinion. Mine!! I am not telling you what to think or being condescending to you. I was merely giving an opinion.

because in our society today there is so much brainwashing and deception going on that it takes a Strong, Clear, Focused, Unwavering mind to see through this facade of BULLSHIT!

When did I mention God striking anyone down or sending anyone into eternal damnation. Seems like you have some serious issues that you need to vent.

Did I say that you said that? No! I was just saying that is what the religious zealots use to keep people in fear. I didn’t say I was in fear and I don’t have any issues (apart from people making uninformed judgements on other people)

I just drop knowledge and if you understand it, you understand it, if you don't then you don't

I understand what you are saying perfectly. Do I resonate with it? No not really.


You see I addressed your points. I did not try to analyse you or attack you or your beliefs. I simply gave my point of view. There is quite a difference.


OK so I vented a little. I'm over it now

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[yvonne]

I don't know if there are Reptilians, Aliens, Ghosts, a God or whatever else!

Were we created...I don't know!

But the one thing I do know, is that there is NO "LOVING" God.

[i am all i am]

I AM ALL I AM; I apoligize for using a remark you deem as racist. I didn't mean anything offensive by it. Also, I never asked anyone to join a crusade or activate in an occult. I'm merely dropping knowledge that you appear not ready to accept. All your cute little poems and fancy animations are good and well, but you'll get to a point when the chip on your shoulder needs to be released and then and only then you'll have the spirit and capacity to understand truth when it's in front of you. LET GO of the baggage man!

G'day James777.

There is no need to apologise to me. Feel free to express yourself in any way that you choose without censoring yourself. The words that we use are merely a description of who we choose to be. If you choose to describe yourself in the way that you have, that is your choice. If you decide that it no longer represents you merely choose another way of describing yourself.

You always mean what you say because you always say what you mean.

Another christian crusade to attempt to convert people to their religous cult !!!

Occult and cult are two different words. All religions are a form of a cult.

If you read what I said (it is quoted above for your benefit) then you will realise that I have not mentioned you ASKING anyone anything.

As to, "I'm merely dropping knowledge that you appear not ready to accept."...why would I accept Jesus as my saviour ???

You are EXPECTING me to believe as you do. Expectation of this will lead to dissappointment for you. To avoid your dissappointment merely release your expectation.

A TRUTH I BELIEVE

IF YOU DON'T PREACH TO ME AND TELL ME HOW TO LIVE,
THEN I'LL KNOW FOR A FACT IT'S LOVE THAT YOU GIVE,
FOR LOVE IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER LEAVE,
'CAUSE IF UNITED WE STAND, UNITED WE ACHIEVE.

SO IF YOU LISTEN THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND,
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WILL DEMAND,
TO LIVE LIFE WITH LOVE AS YOUR GOAL,
ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE ETERNALLY AS YOUR SOUL.

NOW IT'S TIME TO DECIDE WHERE IT IS YOU LIVE,
AND MAKE THE CHOICE OF WHAT IT IS YOU GIVE,
FOR I HAVE CHOSEN TO MAKE MY LOVE CLEAR,
'CAUSE GIVING TO WHERE I'M LIVING CREATES HEAVEN HERE.

THIS IS A MESSAGE THAT IS EASILY HEARD,
IT'S A GIFT OF LOVE CONTAINED WITHIN WORD,
NO CODE OR CYPHER IT IS THAT YOU NEED,
YOU WILL LIVE ETERNALLY WHEN LOVE IS FREED.

IT'S A MESSAGE DIRECT FROM YOUR SOUL,
LOVE IS THE GIVER THAT MAKES YOU WHOLE,
AND TOGETHER AS ONE WE CAN ACHIEVE,
UNITING LOVES FAMILY, A TRUTH I BELIEVE.


"LET GO of the baggage man!"

You are attempting to tell me what to do here.

The "baggage" of religion and the bible is something that you are carrying around, and the cross that you are bearing, clearly shown in your expectations.

I have my own beliefs and understandings without having to rely upon any religous dogma.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

- Sir Stephen Henry Roberts (1901-1971)



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From the "religion" thread.....
Originally Posted by awakensong Not to mention the fact that IN CONTEXT it says no illegitimate child was to enter "his temple"......

G'day Awakensong,

Would this mean, "IN CONTEXT", that as Mary was not legally married to the Holy Spirit or God, that Jesus was illegitimate, and therefore not allowed to enter the Kingdom of Heaven ???

With LOVE.


Originally Posted by i am all i am
Jesus Christ is a False Messiah


According to Jesus’ admissions, as well as the Bible’s prophecies, Jesus of Nazareth could not have been the Messiah. This of course, would invalidate Christianity as we know it. The compilation presented here shall be split in three sections. The first shall be the biblical prophecies that were made in order to identify the messiah, which Jesus does not fulfill. The second shall be the prophecies that Christians use to say that Jesus was the Messiah, yet they clearly fail. The third set shall be the prophecies and statements Jesus made yet they are false and have never came true.

Prophecies to Identify the Messiah, Which Jesus Does Not Fulfill:

1) Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means "God with us." Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible.

2) The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled.

3) Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled.

http://www.evilbible.com/jesus_false.htm


With LOVE.

[infinitely free]

Of course, Reptilians exists! Who's responsible for the whole mess of the human race and planet Earth.

Aa, but you see, there is the problem...

The malevolent alien alliances. The reptilians, the mantis, hostile nordic groups. ...though I must say this sounds fascinating... But,

we are all the same consciousness
We created the Matrix, and all Negativity was created by the Matrix
We should take the Responsibility, not some reptoids, who are only sentient programs, anyway!

We should make a destiction, between having the posiblity of the Reptilian counsiousness,
and not taking the responsiblity


After all guys,
why did Llumis, Secret societies, etc appear??

Because we neede someone to be responsible, for what's happening, to us !

And there they came!

And on a five-sence level:

Sending protest petitions against what the govenrment's doing - this is a good move,

It is useless to deny the possiblity of 'reptilians', nor is it usefull to try to attack the lizzards like we are in a video game (we really are, anyway, but that's not the point)

[loveemotion]

I DO NOT SENSE good vibe on this thread.. please if you feeling like you beeing judged.. its better if you just dont reply.. dont play the game by their rules!
LAL (love and light)

[infinitely free]

I DO NOT SENSE good vibe on this thread.. please if you feeling like you beeing judged.. its better if you just dont reply.. dont play the game by their rules!
LAL (love and light)

Sorry,
which thread did you mean?

[james777]

LUMUKANDA; Great reply! Your points are very valid and I would love to discuss them! See, after the first 'split' there has been a pattern in our own physical universe. Everything is split, right? Everything has an equal and opposite force, right? Well, yes. Laws of nature are just that. They obey physical limits and we, as humans cannot control them, just discover. Now, to your point of relating 'my story' on many levels. See before any of this happened, the creator already knew the outcome, I know it's hard to grasp this but he doesn't work in the laws of our nature, such as time. So he geniously set up the laws of our physical reality, to help further give us symbols and explain to us how things work on the greater scale....example being; Hot vs. Cold, Opposite Poles and so-forth. So here we have nature being a terrific guide to help us understand the struggles in the other realms, but we're missing the point entirely. See, Lucifer knows what the plan for humanity is and he knows that he's not included, so instead of being in force with us, he's obviously against us. In doing this he has created and recreated myths about our very existence so that we won't have any idea what the hell is going on. So instead of hot vs. cold being a guide for us it has now become the root of our existence, I know this is just a very small example, but can you see my point here? Lucifer and his legions used to appear regularly to humans at the beginning of human history because they had to start somewhere. This is when all of these myths and tall tales originated, such as the story of the annunaki. Over time they bread with humans and eventually didn't have to make appearences because now they had and still have humans that do their bidding and they can just sit back and pretend they don't exist causing even more confusion. Now you said "you say satan has got us to a point that we are now easy prey, fighting ourselves, thats what the illuminati is doing, same thing different names." You are absolutely, 100% accurate in your correlation, but see the illuminati is the physical extension of the spiritual luciferian plan. So it is the same thing with different names and that's the whole point. See how it can cause so much confusion when you don't logically put the pieces together? We have the ability as humans, to see these things. Have you ever heard about using your 3rd eye? You just have to start using it to be able to see through all this mist. Thank you for bringing this out of me and please feel free to continue this conversation.


POLLOCK; Yes, very good, as a matter of fact those are my words. I wasn't blaming anything or anyone as a scapegoat. I'm just simply explaining the situation so that we as humans can overcome the enemy instead of give up and blame the enemy for our problems..........Understand?


I'll get to the rest of you shortly.........

[loveemotion]

Sorry,
which thread did you mean?

This thread, infinitely free :rolleyes:

[james777]

I AM; Well, well, well......why am I not surprised by your response? Look, fellow human, I've never claimed to be here to gain friends, I've never declared to know what makes people tick. I'll try to explain things in terms that you should seemingly understand. Pretend I'm not another Individual human with an individual soul. Pretend that we all belong to the same conciousness and that I'm just an extension of yours. Follow me so far? Now, let's say that we (humans) have the ability to bring forth anything we want by letting our collective conciousness' combine, right. Now maybe, just maybe, waves from your conciousness has brought me forth, as another form to your own conciousness, and I'm the part of your concious that's trying to help YOU understand things on an even greater level! I mean you have come this far right? So, instead of portraying me as an opposer, think of me as an appriser, here to HELP you. I know my ideals are radical in your sights and you claim to not believe them, but you know and I know that you've been thinking about it throughout the day. So, turn down your sensitivty dial, and listen objectively to the things I say rather than taking it as a personal rebuke! Cool? You'll get it, I know you will!!!


LADY LITA; Ok, I appreciate your responses, but maybe this thread just isn't for you. You'd be better off talking with others. Thanks anyways for your input. Enjoy your day.


YVONNE; I can appreciate your response in a few ways, although it is very contradictory. You claim to not know if there are Reptillians, Aliens, Ghosts, God or whatever else, I mean you're not even sure if we were created. My question to you is, "How can you know for sure that there is no LOVING God, but you're not even sure if there is a God??" I think you'd be better off just admitting that you clearly have no idea what's what and you're confused about everything, instead of taking a stance on something that you confess yourself that you're not even sure about. You have to start understanding something at some point and this will be the beginning of wisdom for you.


I AM ALL I AM; Ok friend, Cult's are formed from individuals activating Occult's, but I can see where my wording may have confused you so we'll just call that one equal. Let's be fair here though, you did imply that I am another christian trying convert other's to my cult...moving foreward, I believe that you my friend are asking the WRONG questions and you're asking the Wrong people. You stated, "...why would I accept Jesus as my saviour ???". The question you should ask yourself is, "why should you not?" See, when you invert questions that you don't have answers for it's easier to gain understanding. Here's an example for you: Let's say I am a confused soul or conciousness and my body is just my vehicle until I reach the next level. If I know that when this body dies I'm going to my great destiny, then why shouldn't I just kill myself now and bypass this so-called matrix? Instead I could get better results asking myself, Why should I stay alive? What benefits can I reap or how can I help others attain their full potential? See, better answers come with better questioning. My friend, feel free to respond in anyway you wish, even if it's with no response at all. I'm just trying to help you gain more clear and coherent understanding.


LOVEEMOTION; Sometimes truth doesn't create good vibes.

[i am all i am]

.....moving foreward, I believe that you my friend are asking the WRONG questions and you're asking the Wrong people. You stated, "...why would I accept Jesus as my saviour ???". The question you should ask yourself is, "why should you not?"

James777 - The question highlighted in red is for you to answer. That is why I asked it.

As for something being WRONG.....this for a start is merely your judgement. Right and wrong are paired opposite, and as is stated in my signature, when paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you. You are freely entitled to "believe" in right and wrong, it is entirely your choice to imprison yourself within judgements. The bible that you follow says a few things about judging, here's one of them, "Judge not less thee be judged".

I will do you the courtesy of answering your question, "why should you not ?".

1. Jesus, as portrayed in the bible, is a figure representing the sun. The twelve disciples are representing the twelve houses of astrology, that is, the star signs. Therefore, it is a cult worshipping the sun. As I believe that ALL IS ONE, I would not worship anything above anything else. This would be making a "judgement" that leads to seperation, and therefore, loss of awareness and understanding of WHO I AM. No thank you.

FOR A PREACHER PREACHED UNTO ME,
THE SEPERATION OF ETERNITY.

2. I am free and there is no requirment for me to be saved by anyone.

3. "How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors." - Pope LEo X. The story of Jesus in the bible is a superstitous "fable", that is, made up story. It would be akin to worshipping Shrek.

4. Jesus Christ is a False Messiah

According to Jesus' admissions, as well as the Bible's prophecies, Jesus of Nazareth could not have been the Messiah. This of course, wouls invalidate Christianity as we know it. The compilation presented here shall be split in three sections. The first shall be the Biblical prophecies that were made in order to identify the messiah, which Jesus does not fulfill. The second shall be the prophecies that Christians use to say that Jesus was ther Messiah, yet they clearly fail. The third set shall be the prophecies and statements Jesus made yet they are false and have never come true.

Prophecies to Identify the Messiah, Which Jesus Does Not Fulfill:

1) Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means "God with us." Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible.

2) The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled.

3) Isaiah 7:16 seem to say that before Jesus had reached his the age of maturity, Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled ain the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled.

http://www.evilbible.com/jesus_false.htm

5. Because I make my own choices, I have fee will, and I have chosen to believe otherwise.


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[james777]

I AM ALL I AM; It is becoming quite clear to me that you definitely don't read what I type and you operate on assumption alone. A couple things here. I have never, not even once made any reference or claim to the bible, so why do you ASSUME that's what I follow? You also stated this, "when paired opposites define your beliefs, your beliefs will imprison you." I would love for you to explain to me your rational and logic behind this statement. It just doesn't make ANY sense, unless of course you use it as a guideline so that you don't have to be responsible for any actions or thoughts that you take or have. You must take a lot of critisism for your beliefs, although that's an admirable quality, it's causing you to become the judgemental bigot that you accuse me of being. I have never once passed judgement on you, so you can take your pointing finger and calmly tuck it away, thanks. Where do you get your doctrine? Whoever told you that Jesus represents the sun and the 12 disciples represent the 12 houses of astrology? Are you sure Jesus doesn't represent santa claus and the disciples the 12 days of christmas......lol..I thought you said he was just a fable anyways....at least make sense when you try to prove a point please. I can only feel dismayed for you. I honestly feel bad for you, because not only are you trapped by your own beliefs of imprisonment, but because you're too close-minded to even consider the possibility that you have been severely misled. Of course all isn't one, I'm not you and you're not me and there are endless differences that cause real seperation, so how can all be one? Your words are fancy and sound soothing, but they just don't make sense, bottom line! What is your problem with God and/or Jesus anyways? Did they do something to you or do you just need them to help you vent your anger in this unstable world and promote your belief system? Anyways my friend.........I'll leave it open for you..............Oh yes, one more thing, you asked, "...why would I accept Jesus as my saviour ???" My only response to that is because he has already accepted you and what he has to offer is true freedom, insight, wisdom and knowledge, not this mortal doctrine that is currently pumping through your brain.....

[i am all i am]

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

- Sir Stephen Henry Roberts (1901-1971)


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Can you prove Jesus is real ?????

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[i am all i am]

I AM ALL I AM; It is becoming quite clear to me that you definitely don't read what I type and you operate on assumption alone. A couple things here. I have never, not even once made any reference or claim to the bible, so why do you ASSUME that's what I follow?

Jesus is only mentioned in the bible. There is no HISTORICAL references to any figure called Jesus Christ.


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[i am all i am]

I AM ALL I AM; ..........Oh yes, one more thing, you asked, "...why would I accept Jesus as my saviour ???" My only response to that is because he has already accepted you and what he has to offer is true freedom, insight, wisdom and knowledge, not this mortal doctrine that is currently pumping through your brain.....

Where is Jesus to share what you say that he has to offer ???

Have you talked to Jesus personally ???

How do you know that Jesus has accepted me ???

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[i am all i am]

I AM ALL I AM; ......... Where do you get your doctrine? Whoever told you that Jesus represents the sun and the 12 disciples represent the 12 houses of astrology? Are you sure Jesus doesn't represent santa claus and the disciples the 12 days of christmas......lol.......

Hidden Roots of Religion - Jordan Maxwell
http://jordanmaxwell.com/articles/religion/index.html


The groundbreaking book, The Bible Fraud by Australian author Tony Bushby, reveals to the world for the first time original new information about the emergence of the New Testament and its story of Jesus Christ.

It provides historical evidence showing not only vital ancient manuscripts been hidden from the public domain but also other sensitive and associated Biblical material has been purposely withheld or suppressed from the general populace.

When you examine this material, you will find it discloses nothing less than a new account of the development of Christian belief and provides a conflicting and supportable version to that put forward by the priesthood. More alarming is that the church hierarchy of today admits the nature of the information uncovered here is factual and yet still withholds it from public knowledge.

Through the objective presentation of fact, this book provides the fundamental data that finally solves the mystery of Christian origins. There is no such a piece of Biblical history as this found currently in any of the records of mankind.

The conclusion reached is persuasive and has truly profound implications. Whatever your religious views, this is a collection of rare information you will not be able to ignore.
http://www.joshuabooks.com/bushby/biblefraud/internalgif/untoldstory.htm

So that you can see how well this extraordinary book is written and the depth to which Tony Bushby has gone in his research, we have included in this sample the Contents page as well as a major part of Chapter One for your perusal.


Was this book foreseen by Nostradamus? 11
No arguments 12
Two confused stories in the gospels 13
Royal bloodline of Rabbi Jesus 14

1
What was the church trying to hide? 17
Secret ciphers in the New Testament 19
The clue to hidden messages 22
What the Mystery Schools knew about Jesus 24
Jesus in the Shakespearean Plays 27

2
Just who were the parents of Jesus Christ? 28
The evidence of the Rabbis 29
The mother ’s name 31
They found an old book 31
Who was Stada/Stadea?32
Mary unknown in early church history 33
The Roman father of the twins 36
Conclusion 41

3
The hidden twin 42
Thomas the Twin 43
What a suppressed Gospel said 44
Twins in Roman tradition 45
Michelangelo reveals a papal secret 45
An intriguing little mystery 47

4
The anointed leader of the Essenes 50
Just who were the Essenes?50
The special name of John the Baptist 55
Many anointed ones 58
Rabbi Jesus elected to be anointed 59
The ‘Star ’ figure 60
The ‘Star of Bethlehem ’ mystery solved 61
Two messiahs expected 62

5
The character of Judas Khrestus 64
How to make a clergyman squirm 64
What are these verses doing in the Bible?66
The apostle Jesus ‘loved ’68
What the Gospels really recorded 71

6
The life of Judas Khrestus 72
The first fifty messiahs 73
The origin of the Galileans 75
The Galilean fortress 77
The Essenes prepare for battle 78
Messiahs at work 79

7
Khrestus goes to Rome 81
Origin of the Christian messiah 81
The Roman Imperial Secret Service 82
A crucifixion with a difference 84
The mystery man in the Gospels 85
Crucifixion of Jesus Christ unknown to First Century historians 87
The Gospel burnt by the church 88
The ‘redemption ’ of Simon ’s body 89
The trip to India 90

8
A religion of Galilean criminals 93
The nature of the Khrestians 94
The messiah of Christianity 96

9
The life of Rabbi Jesus 97
The prophet steps out 97
Jesus ’ first two wives 100
The most difficult question in Bible history 102
Rabbi Jesus ’ name changes 108
The commencement of the British church 109
The ‘Twelve Holy Druids ’112
Jesus adopted the Druidic wisdom 115
King Jesus Cunobeline 117


10
King Jesus’ sons go to war 120
Strange family marriages 122
Jesus ’ third marriage 124

11
The most famous trial in Rome 125

12
The Palace of the British in Rome 129
The occupants of the British Palace 130
The true authors of the Epistles 132
King Caradoc returns to Britain 139

13
The stoning of Rabbi Jesus Cunobeline 141
Masonic secret symbols 142
The initiation of Rabbi Jesus into the Greater Mysteries 145
The place of the skull 146
The story of the missing To r a h 148
The stoning at Lud 153
The role of Pontius Pilate 155

14
The expansion of the Krist knowledge 157
Emperor Vespasian proclaimed the ‘messiah ’158

15
The Mystery Schools knew about Rabbi Jesus 160

16
The early churchmen 164
Just who were the early church fathers?165
The first Christian bishops 165
Charlatans in the church 170
Curious beliefs of the early clergy 173
The Christian audience 176
Not lawful for a Christian to doubt 178
Supposedly great thinkers 179
Strange things to say 180

17
How the Gospels came into being 182
The origin of the first Gospel 183
Marcellus of Britain 185
The Ebronites and the genuine Gospel of Matthew 186

18
Forgery in the New Testament 193
Earlier virgin births 194
Other crucifixions 196
The essence of the Christian texts 197
Why they laughed at Justin Martyr 199
No resurrection verses in first Gospel 200

19
How the twins became God 204
Why the first Christian council was needed 204
The importance of the Sibylline Books 206
The church at war with itself 210
The confusion of the duel nature 210
The simple creatures 211
Emperor Constantine determines the religious state 213
Deification was a legal principle 214
The precedent had been set 215
The everlasting Gospel 216
The first ‘place of gathering ’217
The origin of the word ‘Pagan ’218
The Royal bloodline 218
Eusebius charged with forging historical documents 219
Overview of the outcome of the Council of Nicaea 220
The new God made legal 221
The most extraordinary church declaration 223
Bibliography 227
Works of reference 227
List of historical or hard-to-find documents 239
The library of the Fathers 249
The books of Dr Constantine Tischendorf 249
Encyclopedias and dictionaries consulted 250
Bibles used as comparative references 251
Acknowledgement 252
About Josephus (Flavius)252
Research assistance 253
Endnotes 255
Index 269


JESUS CHRIST HAS CAPTURED THE IMAGINATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE around the world for almost 2000 years.Few people know that he represents something far different and the following chapters unravel an entirely new story about the circumstances surrounding the birth and emergence of the Christian religion.

In order to cover this ground it is necessary to consider the New Testament stories from a different perspective.By stripping away their supernatural elements,the earliest church writings relay a confused skeletal outline of the lives of two separate men.This work unravels those stories and shows how the New Testament came into being and what it really is.Until now,this aspect of the Gospel story has never been fully developed and by coordinating new information with surviving records,a reconstruction of the probable course of events that resulted in Christianity today is presented.

What was the church trying to hide? IN 1415,THE CHURCH OF ROME TOOK AN EXTRAORDINARY STEP TO destroy all knowledge of two Second Century Jewish books that it said contained ‘the true name of Jesus Christ.’ The Antipope Benedict XIII firstly singled out for condemnation a secret Latin treatise called ‘Mar Yesu ’ and then issued instructions to destroy all copies of the Book of Elxai.No editions of these writings now publicly exist,but church archives recorded that they were once in popular circulation and known to the early presbyters.Knowledge of these writings survived from quotations made by Bishop Hippolytus of Rome (176 –236)and St Epiphanius of Salamis (315 – 403)along with references in some early editions of the Talmud of Palestine and Babylonia.The Rabbinic fraternity once held the destroyed manuscripts with great reverence for they were comprehensive original records reporting the ‘Life of Rabbi Jesus ’.

Later,in a similar manner,Pope Alexander VI (1492 –1503)ordered all copies of the Talmud destroyed.The Council of the Inquisition required as many Jewish writings as possible to burn with the Spanish Grand Inquisitor, Tomas de Torquemada (1420 –98),responsible for the elimination of 6000 volumes at Salamanca.In 1550,Cardinal Caraffa,the Inquisitor-General procured a Bull from the Pope repealing all previous permission for priests to read the Talmud which he said contained ‘hostile stories about Jesus Christ ’. Bursting forth with fury at the head of his minions,he seized every copy he could find in Rome and burnt them.Solomon Romano (1554)also burnt many thousands of Hebrew scrolls and in 1559 every Hebrew book in the city of Prague was confiscated.The mass destruction of Jewish books included hundreds of copies of the Old Testament and caused the irretrievable loss of many original hand-written documents.The oldest text of the Old Testament that survived,before the discovery of the Dead

Sea Scrolls was said to be the Bodleian Codex (Oxford),which was dated to circa 1100AD.In an attempt by the church to remove damaging Rabbinic information about Jesus Christ from the face of the earth,the Inquisition burnt 12,000 volumes of the Talmud However,many copies survived and today provide opposing traditions about the person called Jesus Christ.

In the mass destruction of Jewish writings,the church overlooked two particular British documents that also recorded ‘the true name of Jesus Christ ’. They survive to this day in the British Museum and are called the Chronicles and the Myvyean Manuscript treasured ancient documents with a very early origin.Supporting evidence was also found on early First Century gold, silver and bronze coins discovered at the site of an ancient mint at Camulodunum (Colchester)in Britain.‘Thus the testimony of the Briton coins establishes clearly and positively the historicity of the traditional ancient ‘Chronicles ’ as authentic historical records.’1

The evidence is compelling,and additional supporting clues are found on a mysterious headstone in Germany,in Vatican art treasures,and in a series of coded sentences in the Shakespearean Plays.Further concealed information was left in the form of specially created statues commissioned by a Catholic priest and positioned in a small hilltop church in Southern France.Coded ciphers were also secreted into the first English-language printings of the Bible and a combination of all clues provides interlocking information and presents a new insight into the origin of Christianity.

Secret ciphers in the New Testament It was the ‘wisest fool in Christendom ’,2 who ‘authorised ’ the translation and publication of the first Protestant version of the Bible into English.He came to the English throne in 1603 and quickly became unpopular because of ‘his disgusting personal habits and his unsavoury character ’.3 He pretended to be a scholar in theology and philosophy,but his learning was shallow and superficial.He wallowed in filth,moral and physical,but was endowed with a share of cunning that his associates called,‘a kind of crooked wisdom ’.4

For his new edition of the Bible he issued a set of personal ‘Rules ’ the translators were to follow and ordered revisions to proceed,although he never contributed a farthing to its cost.Work began early in 1607 and took a committee of forty-seven men (some records say fifty-four,others say fifty)two years and nine months to rewrite the Bible and make ready for the press.Each man received thirty shillings per week for his contribution. Upon its completion in 1609,a remarkable event occurred —the translators handed over the reviser ’s manuscripts of what is now called the King James Bible to King James for his final personal approval.‘It was self-evident that James was not competent to check their work and edit it,so he passed the manuscripts on to the greatest genius of all time ...Sir Francis Bacon.’5

Sir Francis Bacon (1561 –1626)was a man of many talents,a lawyer,linguist and composer.He mastered every subject he undertook;mathematics, geometry,music,poetry,painting,astronomy,classical drama and poetry, philosophy,history,theology and architecture.He was a man of many aims and purposes,the father of modern science,remodeler of modern law,patron of modern democracy,and possibly the reviver of Freemasonry.His life and works are extensively documented,and his intellectual accomplishments widely recognized,particularly in academic circles.At the age of sixteen,he was sent to Paris ‘direct from the Queens Hand ’ and there studied Egyptian, Arabian,Indian and Greek philosophy with particular attention given to the Ancient Mysteries and their Ritual Rites.He personally recorded that, while in Paris,he created a secret cipher system that could be inserted into a document without arousing suspicion.While living in Europe,Francis Bacon was initiated into the mysterious Order of the Knights Templar and learnt a very special secret.Before he returned to London,he travelled to France,Italy,Germany and Spain and at the age of twenty completely devoted himself to the study of law.From his understanding of the secret information he had learned during his initiation into the Knights Templar,he conceived the idea of reactivating various Secret Societies and in 1580 founded the secret Rosicrosse Literary Society in Gray ’s Inn.Later in the same year,he founded the Lodge of Free and Accepted or Speculative Masons,also at Gray ’s Inn.

On 25 June 1607 Sir Francis Bacon was appointed Solicitor-General and Chief Advisor to the Crown.He had presented new ideas to the Government for the Reformation of the church and was officially instructed to commence restructuring the Bible.Research in the Records Office of the British Museum revealed that original documents still exist which refer to important proceedings associated with Sir Francis Bacon ’s involvement with the editing of both the Old and New Testaments They revealed that he personally selected and paid the revisers of the New Testament who completed their task under the instructions of Bacon ’s long-time friend,Dr Andrews. Statue of the editor of the Bible, Sir Francis Bacon. © Photography:Thomas L.Lithgow,Esq.

The first English language manuscripts of the Bible remained in Bacon ’s possession for nearly a year.During that time:

...he hammered the various styles of the translators into the unity,rhythm, and music of Shakespearean prose,wrote the Prefaces and created the whole scheme of the Authorized Version.6

He also encoded secret information into both the Old and New Testament An ancient document recorded that the true history of early Christianity was known to the initiates of the Order of the Knights Templar,having originally been:

...imparted to Hugh de Payens by the Grand-Pontiff of the Order of the Temple (of the Nazarene sect),one named Theocletes,after which it was learned by some Knights in Palestine.7

Regarding the months of editing work applied to the Bible by Bacon,his biographer,William T.Smedley, confirmed the extent of the editing:

It will eventually be proved that the whole structure of the Authorised Bible was Francis Bacon ’s.He was an ardent student not only of the Bible, but also of early manuscripts.St Augustine,St Jerome,and writers of theological works,were studied by him with industry.8

At the completion of the editing,Sir Francis Bacon and King James I had a series of meetings to finalise editorial matters associated with the new Bible. It was at this time that King James ordered a ‘Dedication to the King ’ to be drawn up and included in the opening pages.He also wanted the phrase ‘Appointed to be read in the Churches ’ to appear on the title page.This was an announcement clarifying that King James had personally given the church ‘Special Command ’ for this particular version of the Bible to be used in preference to the vast array of Greek and Latin Vulgate Bibles current at the time.His reason was personal,as King James had previously instructed the revisers to ‘defend the position of the king ’ in their restructuring of the texts.This was seen as an attempt to distance the Protestant Bible from the Catholic version.The Protestant versions of the Bible are thinner by seven books than the Catholic version and the variant churches have never agreed on a uniform Bible.In their translation of 1 Peter 2:13 the revisors changed the phrase ‘the emperor,as supreme ’ to ‘the king,as supreme ’.Because King James ’ Bible was written to support the authority of a king,the later church often referred to it as the one from ‘authority ’,and it later came to be presented as if officially ‘authorised ’.In subsequent revisions,the word ‘authorised ’ found its way onto the title page and later still came to be printed on the cover,giving King James ’ new Bible a false sense of authenticity.

The King James Bible is considered by many today to be the ‘original ’ Bible and therefore ‘genuine ’ and all later revisions simply counterfeits forged by ‘higher critics ’.Others think the King James Bible is ‘authentic ’ and ‘authorised ’ and presents the original words of the authors as translated into English from the ‘original ’ Greek text.However,the ‘original ’ Greek text was not written until around the mid-Fourth Century and was a revised edition of writings compiled decades earlier in Aramaic and Hebrew.Those earlier documents no longer exist 9 and the Bibles we have today are five linguistic removes from the first Bibles written.What was written in the ‘original originals ’ is quite unknown.It is important to remember that the words ‘authorised ’ and ‘original ’,as applied to the Bible,do not mean ‘genuine ’,‘authentic ’ or ‘true ’.
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[james777]

Well, for one, it's not my duty to prove that Jesus is real. What do you think the New Testament is? Ding, ding, ding, it's a collection of books, which happen to be historical records!!! *Round of applause* Let me guess though, you believe that they are all munipulated and doctored in effort to control the human race with fear?? Obviously, you've never actually sat down and read it for yourself and I don't mean page skimming, I mean really read. It really is so sad though, you're letting others influence your own thoughts with their nice little quotes and metaphors and the whole time that you're preaching that you have inner peace and know who you are, when you close your eyes at night, you still have anger, confusion and questions.......it's ok, I've been where you are, you're gonna make it!!!

[i am all i am]

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[james777]

I AM ALL I AM; Another thing that really puzzles me is the fact that you swear the bible is fake and Jesus is a fraud, but you try so hard to disprove its credibility, Why? I haven't heard you criticize the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus....maybe it's because you really know they don't exist, but when it comes to Jesus, you really don't know.....

[i am all i am]

Obviously, you've never actually sat down and read it for yourself and I don't mean page skimming, I mean really read. ....

This is an assumption as you do not know what I have or haven't read.

I have read the Old Testament and the New Testament from cover to cover.

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[i am all i am]

Where is Jesus to share what you say that he has to offer ???

Have you talked to Jesus personally ???

How do you know that Jesus has accepted me ???

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Can you answer these questions ???

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[i am all i am]

[QUOTE=james777;37567]Well, for one, it's not my duty to prove that Jesus is real. What do you think the New Testament is? Ding, ding, ding, it's a collection of books, which happen to be historical records!!! QUOTE]

You cannot prove that Jesus is real because of the simple fact that outside of the bible there are NO historical records of that which are found in the bible.

Do you know who wrote the "collection of books" that you profess "to be historical records" ???

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[i am all i am]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. part 1

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. part 2

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. part 3

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. part 4

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. part 5

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. part 6

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061773048178434620

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[james777]

Well, if you truly did read the bible, cover to cover like you claim you have, perhaps you have a memory problem or just plain find it hard to comprehend upper-level material. Now these questions that you're asking me to answer are all answered for you many times throughout the bible that you have read cover to cover except the one asking me if I've talked with him personally. So to answer these for you:

Where is Jesus to share what you say that he has to offer ??? Well, he is an omnipresent spirit, within you and throughout what we know as the world and universe. Of course he's not beating down any doors to get your attention. He's patiently waiting for you to seek him and then he will fully reveal himself. See, he's not the oppressor that you accuse him of being, but of course you already know this because you've read the bible cover to cover right?

Have you talked to Jesus personally ??? The answer to that is an absolute yes. I have conversations with him often. See, I'm very connected to the spiritual realm and have no problems communicating with him. You must understand something though. Jesus was God in human form and now that he has left this earth he is here as the Holy Spirit, thus forming the Trinity; God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit...kinda like Water, Ice and Steam, all the same thing just different forms.

How do you know that Jesus has accepted me ??? Again, these answers are all well documented in the bible that you've read cover to cover. Maybe you should try to read it again, take notes this time.

[oneofmany]

I AM ALL I AM; Another thing that really puzzles me is the fact that you swear the bible is fake and Jesus is a fraud, but you try so hard to disprove its credibility, Why? I haven't heard you criticize the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus....maybe it's because you really know they don't exist, but when it comes to Jesus, you really don't know.....

There is no Easter bunny, and for the real origins of Santa Claus, you need to do some study on the use of the Mushroom in religious practices. You are very ill informed, to be throwing your opinion around at others!! It's just plain insulting to them. Come back when you have a more balanced point of view. Have you done any study on the origins of the Bible? How is it, that when you talk to someone like I am all I am, who has had a rounded education on both sides of the argument and talks about why he believes what he does, the shutters go up in your brain which refuse to let you see the truth behind what he is saying? They say your mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open.

[i am all i am]

Well, if you truly did read the bible, cover to cover like you claim you have, perhaps you have a memory problem or just plain find it hard to comprehend upper-level material.

No on all accounts. It is not merely a claim, it is what I have done.

What material within the bible do you believe to be "upper-level" ???

Now these questions that you're asking me to answer are all answered for you many times throughout the bible that you have read cover to cover except the one asking me if I've talked with him personally. So to answer these for you:

Where is Jesus to share what you say that he has to offer ??? Well, he is an omnipresent spirit, within you and throughout what we know as the world and universe. Of course he's not beating down any doors to get your attention. He's patiently waiting for you to seek him and then he will fully reveal himself. See, he's not the oppressor that you accuse him of being, but of course you already know this because you've read the bible cover to cover right?

Where have I made the highlighted claims ???

Have you talked to Jesus personally ??? The answer to that is an absolute yes. I have conversations with him often. See, I'm very connected to the spiritual realm and have no problems communicating with him. You must understand something though. Jesus was God in human form and now that he has left this earth he is here as the Holy Spirit, thus forming the Trinity; God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit...kinda like Water, Ice and Steam, all the same thing just different forms.

So, you have not talked to Jesus in peron, that is, physically.

Do you channel the spirit of Jesus ???

If so, could you please ask Jesus to tell us all, through you, when he is supposed to come back and save everyone as the messiah, and what form will he take when he does ???

Could you also please ask Jesus to show all of the unbelievers incontovertable proof of his existence here and now within the present day physical realm that we are living in ???

How do you know that Jesus has accepted me ??? Again, these answers are all well documented in the bible that you've read cover to cover. Maybe you should try to read it again, take notes this time.

No where in the bible am I mentioned, so how can you declare that I am accepted by Jesus ???

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[i am all i am]

There is no Easter bunny, and for the real origins of Santa Claus, you need to do some study on the use of the Mushroom in religious practices. You are very ill informed, to be throwing your opinion around at others!! It's just plain insulting to them. Come back when you have a more balanced point of view. Have you done any study on the origins of the Bible? How is it, that when you talk to someone like I am all I am, who has had a rounded education on both sides of the argument and talks about why he believes what he does, the shutters go up in your brain which refuse to let you see the truth behind what he is saying? They say your mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open.

It is obvious brother because.....

Originally Posted by james777
...really puzzles me ...

...he is puzzled.

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[oneofmany]

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I like watching someone argue an unsustainable argument. Thanks James 777 for making my day :D

[truthcommission]

I AM ALL I AM - Your words are fancy and sound soothing, but they just don't make sense, bottom line! What is your problem with God and/or Jesus anyways? Did they do something to you or do you just need them to help you vent your anger in this unstable world and promote your belief system?
Funny I was actually thinking the same thing myself. :D

I am very cautious of people who spout a lot of new age / personal development jargon and cut and paste huge tracts from other sites and sources WITHOUT actually offering their own thoughts or post multiple links to You Tube videos again WITHOUT any original thoughts/commentary.

[i am all i am]

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I like watching someone argue an unsustainable argument. Thanks James 777 for making my day :D

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[i am all i am]

Funny I was actually thinking the same thing myself. :D

I am very cautious of people who spout a lot of new age / personal development jargon and cut and paste huge tracts from other sites and sources WITHOUT actually offering their own thoughts or post multiple links to You Tube videos again WITHOUT any original thoughts/commentary.

G'day Truthcommission.

What would you like me to explain in my own words for you ???


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[oneofmany]

Well, for one, it's not my duty to prove that Jesus is real.Then why get into a debate about it if your not willing to champion your saviours cause, once denied him by my count :D What do you think the New Testament is? Ding, ding, ding, it's a collection of books, which happen to be historical records!!! I believe that is incorrect, and any priest will tell you that the old testament and a majority of the new has no basis in antiquity and should be taken allegorically only Let me guess though, you believe that they are all munipulated and doctored in effort to control the human race with fear?? Only for the people that don't understand what it really says Obviously, you've never actually sat down and read it for yourself and I don't mean page skimming, I mean really read. Very Asumptuous It really is so sad though, you're letting others influence your own thoughts with their nice little quotes and metaphors and the whole time that you're preaching that you have inner peace and know who you are, when you close your eyes at night, you still have anger, confusion and questions.......it's ok, I've been where you are, you're gonna make it!!! You still have a lot to learn my young padawan learner, Quote from Yoda http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_185.gif.

[truthcommission]

What would you like me to explain in my own words for you ???
Try explaining something you don't understand.

Everything else is pure repetition...dead knowledge in other words.

[i am all i am]

Try explaining something you don't understand.

Everything else is pure repetition...dead knowledge in other words.

That's pretty funny.

How can you explain something that you don't understand ???

Would you like to give me an example of something that you think that I do not understand ???

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[oneofmany]

Funny I was actually thinking the same thing myself. :D

I am very cautious of people who spout a lot of new age / personal development jargon and cut and paste huge tracts from other sites and sources WITHOUT actually offering their own thoughts or post multiple links to You Tube videos again WITHOUT any original thoughts/commentary.I believe that I am all I am is actually "Spouting" as you put it, FACTS, that can be verified, unlike for example The Validity Of The Bible. For instance just because these facts happen to be handy by the availability of a link or a cut and paste, doesn't make the information any less valid, does it?

[truthcommission]

I have no time for people such as yourselves who don't have anything valid to say but instead gang up and bully other forum members because they dare to think differently to you.

Who cares if what you are spouting are facts? That doesn't mean that YOU have anything valid to offer but are simply using OTHER PEOPLES facts to prop up your OWN beliefs. The word repeater comes to mind.

I am amazed that people like you claim to be open minded but at the end of the day are as cynical and closed minded as everyone else. You insincerity and conceitedness shines through when you use empty words such as with love and we are all one when it is patently clear that you DON'T actually believe it.

[i am all i am]

.....I am amazed that people like you claim to be open minded but at the end of the day are as cynical and closed minded as everyone else. You insincerity and conceitedness shines through when you use empty words such as with love and we are all one when it is patently clear that you DON'T actually believe it.

I have never claimed to have an open mind, that would make it too easy for others to fill with shit.

I have a loving mind, open heart and a truthful voice. This is MY decleration.

"With LOVE" is used because I believe LOVE is the creator (that is why it is in CAPITALS) and that is who I am "with", always, and in all ways.

How do you come to the conclusion of what I believe without backing it up with any evidence from what I have written ???

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[truthcommission]

I have never claimed to have an open mind, that would make it too easy for others to fill with shit.
Now that you have shown your true colors can you please admit that you are a fraud and a bully as well?

[oneofmany]

I have no time for people such as yourselves who don't have anything valid to say but instead gang up and bully other forum members because they dare to think differently to you.Who said anyone is ganging up, on anyone here but you. I have my own views, and one of them is that you are incorrect on this occasion. What is with your hostile demeanour anyway?

Who cares if what you are spouting are facts? That doesn't mean that YOU have anything valid to offer but are simply using OTHER PEOPLES facts to prop up your OWN beliefs. The word repeater comes to mind.This is how the WORLD learns, or don't you get it? People study subjects in great detail, and then disseminate the information in the form of BOOKS and VIDEO to get their message across, just like David Icke and countless other people do. How do you learn anything? through the jungle express:rolleyes:

I am amazed that people like you claim to be open minded but at the end of the day are as cynical and closed minded as everyone else. You insincerity and conceitedness shines through when you use empty words such as with love and we are all one when it is patently clear that you DON'T actually believe it.So EVERYBODY is cynical and close minded now, according to you are they? Just because somebody doesn't hold to your belief system, doesn't mean the don't believe. You assume an awful lot about someone's view on the world. As for my supposed insincerity and conceitedness, have you read what you've said recently? You like to judge, be spiteful over no good reason and you don't listen to others as is evident in this post that I am replying to. If you truly hold Christian values, then FORGIVENESS should be big in your vocabulary but I doubt it, somehow Hypocrite springs to mind when thinking of you mate.
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[oneofmany]

Now that you have shown your true colors can you please admit that you are a fraud and a bully as well?You make ma laugh mate, this is just SAD and frankly beneath you

[i am all i am]

Now that you have shown your true colors can you please admit that you are a fraud and a bully as well?

No, because that is not true, merely your accusation.

As I said, I have a loving mind, an open heart and a truthful voice.

What do you have Truthcommission ???

Will you make YOUR decleration ???

Or are you merely going to hurl accusations ???


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[truthcommission]

Why don't you say what you really mean and stop holding back?

[oneofmany]

Why don't you say what you really mean and stop holding back?I believe I just did, with only argumentative tones as your response.

[truthcommission]

Or are you merely going to hurl accusations ???No I am simply going to call things as I SEE them and throw your frustrations back in your face.

Please don't come this loving mind, an open heart line with me.

It is clear from your posts that you are a bully who tries to rubbish other peoples views because they are different to yours.

[oneofmany]

No I am simply going to call things as I SEE them and throw your frustrations back in your face.

Please don't come this loving mind, an open heart line with me.

It is clear from your posts that you are a bully who tries to rubbish other peoples views because they are different to yours.This is the best case of the pot calling the kettle black that I have seen on this forum so far.http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif

[i am all i am]

No I am simply going to call things as I SEE them and throw your frustrations back in your face.

Here's another assumption. Because you say that I am frustrated does not make it so.http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1425/aenahasifpp1.gif

Please don't come this loving mind, an open heart line with me.

Why do you attempt to tell me what to write ??? http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3740/tut20tutti5.gif

It is clear from your posts that you are a bully who tries to rubbish other peoples views because they are different to yours.

And the evidence that you offer is... ???

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You have only made accusations on this thread Truthcommission.

Are you going to add anything apart from accussations ???

Or are you merely going to continue to "repeat" your continued accusations ???

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[oneofmany]

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You have only made accusations on this thread Truthcommission.

Are you going to add anything apart from accussations ???

Or are you merely going to continue to "repeat" your continued accusations ???

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[oneofmany]

The Servant of Truth is aware...the price of ignorance is ultimately far greater than the price paid for knowledge. The Servant of Truth knows that freedom is never free and that silence is most definitely consent.

Michael TsarionThese don't sound like your words of enlightenment but rather Mr Tsarions. Are you a repeater?

[truthcommission]

Are you going to add anything apart from accussations ???
and
Or are you merely going to continue to "repeat" your continued accusations ???

and
What are YOUR thoughts on the subject TC?

This line of questioning is so transparent. These pathetic attempts at reverse psychology are so amateurish as to be laughable.

If only I had a stupid animated gif to show how much I am laughing at you right now.

[teslafire]

I give a fuck about reptilians, especially homeless ones.

[i am all i am]

Repeater was it he called us? I'm waiting for his enlightened response without the personal attacks. If TC is such a free thinker, then where's his volumes of work on the subject of enlightenment? :confused: What are YOUR thoughts on the subject TC?

Yes, repeater was the phrase that he kept repeating.

He has disappeared brother !!!

Maybe he has gone to do some research so that he can reply without making assumptions and hurling accusations at others.

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Maybe this was merely something personal and that is why he only made personal attacks without offering any "enlightened response".

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[i am all i am]

and

and


This line of questioning is so transparent. These pathetic attempts at reverse psychology are so amateurish as to be laughable.

If only I had a stupid animated gif to show how much I am laughing at you right now.

He's back....

The gif's are available on this thread...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3261 page 1

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3261&page=2 page 2

Thank you for your enlightened response !!!

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[oneofmany]

and

and


This line of questioning is so transparent. These pathetic attempts at reverse psychology are so amateurish as to be laughable.

If only I had a stupid animated gif to show how much I am laughing at you right now.http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif you are laughable mate, not one answer to our questions, and all the abuse under the sun, that makes YOU look stupid. http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif There is nothing sinister in first I am all I am being attacked by you and defending himself, and then me happening to agree with his stance. You see too many conspiracies in things, to be sure. Why do you have it in for I am all I am? This isn't the first run in you have had with either him or myself for that fact. It seems to me that you need to do some serious self introspection and look at your own deficiencies as a human. GROW UP!

[i am all i am]

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif you are laughable mate, not one answer to our questions and all the abuse under the sun that makes YOU look stupid http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4869/wwwmyemoticonscomgigglexh7.gif there is nothing sinister in first I am all I am being attacked by you and defending himself, and then me happening to agree with his stance. You see too many conspiracies in things, to be sure. Why do you have it in for I am all I am? This isn't the first run in you have had with either him or myself for that fact. It seems to me that you need to do some serious self introspection and look at your own deficiencies as a human. GROW UP!

Could it have something to do with his thread...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3287

...where he started a poll to stop the use of emoticons and lost the poll 12 to 1.

Here's the original post...you make up your own mind...

Should Animated Gifs be Allowed?

This is something I feel very strongly about because I believe this forum is a serious forum which is generally inhabited by intelligent people. As far as I am concerned the use and very often overuse of animated gifs changes the whole vibe of a forum.

I am sure many of you have visited forums where they were used. Little angel4u posts a row of five smiling gifs to her friend babe121 who then posts back 10 to show her appreciation. Not to feel left out hunkyguy decides to show his love by posting 10 lines of beating hearts to show how much he really really loves them.

I mean come on we are adults here aren't we?

Are you unhappy with me because no one else voted for banning emoticons Truthcommission, only you did ???

I didn't even reply on your thread.

You, on the other hand replied thus on the 'Animated Emoticons' thread...

Am I the only person that thinks they are highly distracting not to mention tacky?

The just remind me of chatrooms or forums inhabited by teenage girls.

I think it is a shame that people can't express themselves with words and have to resort to (over)using emoticons because they are too lazy to articulate their true feelings.

Do you also think that "it is a shame" that people cannot reply in their posts without having to "resort" to personally attacking somebody ???


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[oneofmany]

Little angel4u posts a row of five smiling gifs to her friend babe121 who then posts back 10 to show her appreciation. Not to feel left out hunkyguy decides to show his love by posting 10 lines of beating hearts to show how much he really really loves them.What kind of forums has he been visiting? not that there's anything wrong with forums like these people would visit, but CMON, GET A LIFE!!! If this kind of thing is the best you have to complain about TC, then it sucks to be you.

[truthcommission]

Are you unhappy with me because no one else voted for banning emoticons Truthcommission, only you did ???
In part yes actually. But it goes much deeper than that. In truth I have been watching both of you for some time and that was only the tip of the iceberg.

I thought this was a place for serious discussion but alas I was wrong. As you quite rightly point out it came to a head over the emoticons but in reality I had every intention of attacking you because in all honestly everything you say gets to me. The emoticon issue was really just the icing on the cake in the gradual slide into the official dumbing down of the forums.

There are plenty of forums out there with serious people/researchers who are interested in exposing some of the worst excesses of the NWO not some wishy washy new agers who think they are vastly superior to everyone else who need to use stupid emoticons to express themselves.

Your pathetic attempts at bullying might work on some but I have been around the block a few times and have seen "people" like you who claim to be enlightened but are really frustrated because deep down you realize the new age crap or mushroom trips are a complete cop out.

[i am all i am]

In part yes actually. But it goes much deeper than that. In truth I have been watching both of you for some time and that was only the tip of the iceberg.

I thought this was a place for serious discussion but alas I was wrong. As you quite rightly point out it came to a head over the emoticons but in reality I had every intention of attacking you because in all honestly everything you say gets to me. The emoticon issue was really just the icing on the cake in the gradual slide into the official dumbing down of the forums.

There are plenty of forums out there with serious people/researchers who are interested in exposing some of the worst excesses of the NWO not some wishy washy new agers who think they are vastly superior to everyone else who need to use stupid emoticons to express themselves.

Your pathetic attempts at bullying might work on some but I have been around the block a few times and have seen "people" like you who claim to be enlightened but are really frustrated because deep down you realize the new age crap or mushroom trips are a complete cop out.

Here are some threads that I have started...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1851
Marijuana Facts

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3002
The Secret Power of Words

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1964
Is There A Cover-up

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1793
Conversations with God – a Discussion with God

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2505
Sacred Geometry – My Patterns

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2119
DNA and the Origins of Knowledge

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1889
Addictive Personality

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1493
NOW – The only time you can change

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1471
Dimensions In Space

...maybe you should have a look and cite examples where you have engaged me in a discussion and show how "everything you say gets to me." from what has been discussed between us.

If you would like to move beyond your accusations and have a serious discussion, I am willing to join with you discussing any topic that you desire.

If you would prefer to continue attacking, feel free to express yourself as I do not consider you to be the authority of WHO I AM, and realise that it is your "deeper" issues that you require to work through.

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[truthcommission]

I will move on when you and your cohort oneofmany admit that you bullied james777 because he doesn't believe in reptilians and not just that but accused (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37044&postcount=4) him of being on some kind of crusade.

If you would like to move beyond your accusations and have a serious discussion, I am willing to join with you discussing any topic that you desire.
I seriously doubt it. You are by your own admission closed-minded. I don't engage with people who get off on trying to ridicule and undermine people because they don't fit in with your model of reality.

[i am all i am]

I will move on when you and your cohort oneofmany admit that you bullied james777 because he doesn't believe in reptilians and not just that but accused (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37044&postcount=4) him of being on some kind of crusade.

I seriously doubt it. You are by your own admission closed-minded. I don't engage with people who get off on trying to ridicule and undermine people because they don't fit in with your model of reality.

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S135.gif.....Obviously you desire to stay attached to making accussations.

For a start, can you show me where I admitted to being "closed-minded" ???

I stated that I have a loving mind, neither an open mind nor a closed mind, a loving mind, open heart and truthful voice.

If you will not move on that is your choice Truthcommission. I have made you an offer for a serious discussion and you reject it. Enjoy being where you are at brother.


With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[smariot]

We're all attached by a thin thread (optic nerve, or whatever) to what we believe to be reality. We've all done our best to try to build a model that fits all the nonsense we've managed to collect over the years, but we all see something different, build different models, and then use our models to filter all the information we get. How can anyone claim someone else doesn't understand reality when the only reality we know only exists in our memories and we're actively trying to protect it from anything that might make it unravel?

[oneofmany]

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S135.gif.....Obviously you desire to stay attached to making accussations.

For a start, can you show me where I admitted to being "closed-minded" ???

I stated that I have a loving mind, neither an open mind nor a closed mind, a loving mind, open heart and truthful voice.

If you will not move on that is your choice Truthcommission. I have made you an offer for a serious discussion and you reject it. Enjoy being where you are at brother.


With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gifWere cohorts now are we? http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_55.gif http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_40.gif Ill deal with you later TC, right now, I'm entertaining.

[james777]

ONEOFMANY; Well, first of all thank you for adding your profound and astute knowledge to this thread, because without your help we may have taken up pages of replies saying the same thing over and over and over.......or wait, maybe that is what happened.

you said, "You are very ill informed, to be throwing your opinion around at others!" First, I would like to know who you even are? Are you genuinely interested in expanding real knowledge or do you just enjoy co-signing for others?

Your Quote:
Originally Posted by james777
Well, for one, it's not my duty to prove that Jesus is real.Then why get into a debate about it if your not willing to champion your saviours cause, once denied him by my count What do you think the New Testament is? Ding, ding, ding, it's a collection of books, which happen to be historical records!!! I believe that is incorrect, and any priest will tell you that the old testament and a majority of the new has no basis in antiquity and should be taken allegorically only Let me guess though, you believe that they are all munipulated and doctored in effort to control the human race with fear?? Only for the people that don't understand what it really says Obviously, you've never actually sat down and read it for yourself and I don't mean page skimming, I mean really read. Very Asumptuous It really is so sad though, you're letting others influence your own thoughts with their nice little quotes and metaphors and the whole time that you're preaching that you have inner peace and know who you are, when you close your eyes at night, you still have anger, confusion and questions.......it's ok, I've been where you are, you're gonna make it!!!

Ok, good, I'm gonna go through this step-by-step for you okay. Pay attention because I don't want you asking me to explain things that I already am, cool? Cool! NOW, If you'll read back through this thread, you'll notice that I wasn't even the one who brought Jesus into this debate. It was brought on by an individual(or oneness, however you look at it) who clearly has issues and many questions about Jesus, God and the Bible. The simple fact that Jesus has become almost the central debated figure in this thread proves that there is a lot of buzz concerning his existence and so-forth. Although this isn't hard evidence it does raise some interest in the minds of many. You wouldn't ask me to prove that your body is made up of more than just physical tissue and that you do indeed have a soul/spirit within you, right? See, there are just some things that cannot be proven in this physical realm, but don't blame me. If you look back through history on many occasions, there were men who died for their radical beliefs, and time proved them to be absolutely 100% correct. So me not being able to prove the existence of Jesus certaintly doesn't disprove him, and my duty here isn't to PROVE his existence, but to share his word.
Whether you believe or don't believe the New Testament to be actual historical records doesn't change the fact's that they actually are. You can use this as a tool to help you understand the history of the New Testament:
(http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=656&id=656&d=New+Testament) And if you're referring to a priest of, The Church of Satan, then of course they'll tell you it should be taken "allegorically only".
Now this is where I really enjoy replying to you! Keep an open mind for this one. You are obviously one of the, "people that don't understand what it really says", because if you actually did, we wouldn't even be having this debate! So I'll tell you what, I think it'd be a lot better if you go to a quiet room, read the New Testament, analyze it, examine it, study it, scrutinize it, probe it, evaluate it, dissect it and break it down, then and only then come to me with your OWN thoughts and devotion on it, ok, good.
About being "Very Asumptuous", well asumptuous isn't even a word. So thank you for your 2 cents, but your foolishness seized your intellect.
Oh yes, of course, you're welcome! Your quote, "I like watching someone argue an unsustainable argument. Thanks James 777 for making my day "


I AM ALL I AM; your quote "I have never claimed to have an open mind, that would make it too easy for others to fill with shit" your quote, "For a start, can you show me where I admitted to being "closed-minded" ???", Well, enough said. It is obvious that you don't even listen to your own thoughts let alone others.
You, my friend, astound me. You're fighting so hard for a cause that you really know nothing about. I consider all material in the Bible to be upper-level, because first of all you have to have an open mind to begin to understand it and on top of that it takes upper-level reasoning to comprehend it, but you clearly don't even grasp this concept, so enough said about that!
My quote, "See, he's not the oppressor that you accuse him of being, but of course you already know this because you've read the bible cover to cover right?"

your quote, "Where have I made the highlighted claims ???"
your cute little poems, DOGMA

DON'T TRY TO CONVINCE US,
OF YOUR FALSE IDEAL,
THERE ARE NO SEPARATE COLOURS,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I WASN'T BORN TO WORK FOR YOU,
DON'T SELL ME YOUR IDEAL,
MY EXPERIENCE IS THE CLUE,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I WASN'T BORN A SINNER,
YOUR RELIGION IS A SPIEL,
YOU SAY A LOSER NEEDS A WINNER,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I HOPE ONE DAY TO HOLD YOUR HAND,
AND WATCH THE JOY ON YOUR FACE,
WHEN THE WORLD WILL UNDERSTAND,
WE ALL BELONG TO THE HUMAN RACE.



CHRISTIANITY

666, THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST,
ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS JOIN THE FEAST,
DENYING THE TRUTH THAT'S INSIDE,
SO THEIR ACTIONS THEY CAN HIDE.

THE CONVERSION OF ALL IS THEIR GOAL,
SO THEY CAN FEED UPON YOUR SOUL,
AND THE JOY OF LIFE BECOMES A COST,
FOR ALL IN FEAR TO BE LOST.

THE BLIND AND DEAF ALWAYS PREACH,
OF A PLACE THEY CANNOT REACH,
SO LISTEN CAREFULLY TO WHAT IS SAID,
FOR ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS WANT YOU DEAD.

BUT WHEN YOU SEE AND YOU HEAR,
ALL BECOMES PERFECTLY CLEAR,
FOR THEN IT IS THAT YOU WILL KNOW,
TO YOU LOVE WILL ALWAYS FLOW.


DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY

THIS IS THE MOTTO OF OUR DAY,
DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY,
FOR A PREACHER PREACHED UNTO ME,
THE SEPERATION OF ETERNITY.

HE CALLED ME WEAK, HE CALLED ME A SINNER,
THEN HE TOLD ME THERE IS ONLY ONE WINNER,
THE SON OF GOD, HE IS GOD INCARNATE,
AND MORTAL MANS DEATH WAS HIS FATE.

HE DIED ON A CROSS TO ABSOLVE ALL SIN,
AND ONLY THEN DID OUR LIVES BEGIN,
THIS IS THE TRUTH DON'T TURN AWAY,
DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY.

SO I ASKED A QUESTION TO BE SURE,
HE COULD SEE HIS STORY HAD A FLAW,
“IF ETERNAL GOD BE THE ONE HE BE,
HOW COULD DEATH BE HIS DESTINY ?”.

AND THEN HE TOLD ME HIS DEATH WAS A GIFT,
FOR THE SINS OF HUMANITY HE DID UPLIFT,
AND RESURRECTED TO SHOW THE PROOF,
THAT THIS STORY IS THE TRUTH.

AND AS HIS STORY PROVED HIS STORY,
HE SMILED AT ME WITH ALL GODS GLORY,
AND I LAUGHED AND SMILED TO SEE,
HE COULDN'T HIDE GOD INSIDE FROM ME.

NOW WITH WORDS HEARTFELT I DID SAY,
“THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME GOD TODAY”,
THEN HE LOST HIS SMILE AND TURNED AWAY,
SAYING DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY.

Definition of Oppress: To keep (someone) in subserviance and hardship by the unjust exercise of authority.
All your little poems suggest oppression, and they are all directed at God/Jesus. So again, enough said.
Your quote, "So, you have not talked to Jesus in peron, that is, physically?"... Well let me answer your question with a question of my own. Do we (you and I) talk, that is, physically? Or wait, maybe there are more ways to communicate besides verbal. I don't know, maybe I'm the crazy, confused bigot here.
Just for your information, that is if you actually care about answers to the questions you ask, your quote again, "If so, could you please ask Jesus to tell us all, through you, when he is supposed to come back and save everyone as the messiah, and what form will he take when he does ???" There are very clear and precise signs listed in the bible, the one you've read cover to cover, that point to the coming of the messiah and on top of that it is very clear what form he will take and what he will actually do, so I need not explain further since you've already read all about it, right, good.
Okay, okay, perhaps you have gotten me here! Your quote, "No where in the bible am I mentioned, so how can you declare that I am accepted by Jesus ???" If you consider yourself not to be of man or of the human race or of any other part of this universe, realm or dimension, then of course, you've been left out of the bible.
In conclusion, I would just like to ask you to think before you question, because fools only speak foolish things!


TRUTHCOMMISSION; Greetings friend, I would just like to applaud and thank you for keeping your mind open. Although you may not agree with my beliefs, at least you have the fortitude to consider the possibilities. It doesn't bother me when other people try to gang up on me, because you can see that real wisdom always shines through. Just keep in mind that 'the blind cannot lead the blind' so as for I Am All I Am and oneofmany, their path will be their destruction!

[james777]

SMARIOT; Whilst I see your point and understand the message you're trying to convey, I just can't agree entirely. Let me explain. For instance, let's assume that we all perceive reality differently and I'm walking down the street and we bump into each other, right. Now if we analyze the situation one may say, "hey, he bumped into him on purpose, trying to knock him down" others may say, "he accidently bumped into him, he wasn't paying attention to where he was walking". So, this is where difference of opinions or perception come in. We may all agree to disagree, but it doesn't change the reality of things, because no matter how, whoever perceived it, the fact remains that we bumped into each other. Does it make any sense to you?

Plus, try telling the poor children in Darfur, "I know you're starving and your own stomach is beginning to eat away at your insides and those growths on your skin are nothing but parasites, but don't worry, it's just the way you filter reality"...see reality IS real and your perceptions don't change it, they just change the way YOU look at it!

[i am all i am]

I AM ALL I AM; your quote "I have never claimed to have an open mind, that would make it too easy for others to fill with shit" your quote, "For a start, can you show me where I admitted to being "closed-minded" ???", Well, enough said. It is obvious that you don't even listen to your own thoughts let alone others.

If you re-read what I have said you will see that I declared that I have a loving mind, neither open nor closed.

"I have never claimed to have an open mind,"

Where in this quote do I admit to being "closed-minded". If you read it, you can see what I have written does not include the words "closed-minded".

You are clutching at straws attempting to make a correlation that is not there.

You, my friend, astound me. You're fighting so hard for a cause that you really know nothing about.

And which cause do you assume that is ???

I consider all material in the Bible to be upper-level, because first of all you have to have an open mind to begin to understand it and on top of that it takes upper-level reasoning to comprehend it, but you clearly don't even grasp this concept, so enough said about that!

An open mind to be filled with christian dogma.

I will re-phrase the question so that you understand it. What do you consider to be upper-level, and can you give an example from the bible of this ???

Do you now "grasp" the question ???

My quote, "See, he's not the oppressor that you accuse him of being, but of course you already know this because you've read the bible cover to cover right?"

your quote, "Where have I made the highlighted claims ???"
your cute little poems,

In none of the poems do I accuse Jesus or God of anything. Christianity, the religion, I discuss, but you seem unable to understand what I have written, so I will explain it for you.

Dogma 3rd verse -
I wasn't born in sin : pretty easy so far, huh !!!
Your religion is a spiel : a persuasive story, READ myth.
You say a loser needs a winner : a messiah to save everyone.
Your dogma doesn't heal : religous doctrines do not heal, they enslave.

Christianity -
The preachers have not been to heaven and yet they attempt to tell everyone about it.
They say that you get to go to heaven when you die. So if you want the perosn to go to heaven, then you obviously want them dead.

Don't Do As I Do, Do As I Say -
Think of it in this way, practice what you preach.
As God/LOVE/ALL THAT IS is inside everything, it cannot be hidden, even by someone preaching a false doctrine.

Does that help you, or would you like a further explanation ???

DOGMA

DON'T TRY TO CONVINCE US,
OF YOUR FALSE IDEAL,
THERE ARE NO SEPARATE COLOURS,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I WASN'T BORN TO WORK FOR YOU,
DON'T SELL ME YOUR IDEAL,
MY EXPERIENCE IS THE CLUE,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I WASN'T BORN A SINNER,
YOUR RELIGION IS A SPIEL,
YOU SAY A LOSER NEEDS A WINNER,
YOUR DOGMA DOESN'T HEAL.

I HOPE ONE DAY TO HOLD YOUR HAND,
AND WATCH THE JOY ON YOUR FACE,
WHEN THE WORLD WILL UNDERSTAND,
WE ALL BELONG TO THE HUMAN RACE.



CHRISTIANITY

666, THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST,
ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS JOIN THE FEAST,
DENYING THE TRUTH THAT'S INSIDE,
SO THEIR ACTIONS THEY CAN HIDE.

THE CONVERSION OF ALL IS THEIR GOAL,
SO THEY CAN FEED UPON YOUR SOUL,
AND THE JOY OF LIFE BECOMES A COST,
FOR ALL IN FEAR TO BE LOST.

THE BLIND AND DEAF ALWAYS PREACH,
OF A PLACE THEY CANNOT REACH,
SO LISTEN CAREFULLY TO WHAT IS SAID,
FOR ALL GOOD CHRISTIANS WANT YOU DEAD.

BUT WHEN YOU SEE AND YOU HEAR,
ALL BECOMES PERFECTLY CLEAR,
FOR THEN IT IS THAT YOU WILL KNOW,
TO YOU LOVE WILL ALWAYS FLOW.


DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY

THIS IS THE MOTTO OF OUR DAY,
DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY,
FOR A PREACHER PREACHED UNTO ME,
THE SEPERATION OF ETERNITY.

HE CALLED ME WEAK, HE CALLED ME A SINNER,
THEN HE TOLD ME THERE IS ONLY ONE WINNER,
THE SON OF GOD, HE IS GOD INCARNATE,
AND MORTAL MANS DEATH WAS HIS FATE.

HE DIED ON A CROSS TO ABSOLVE ALL SIN,
AND ONLY THEN DID OUR LIVES BEGIN,
THIS IS THE TRUTH DON'T TURN AWAY,
DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY.

SO I ASKED A QUESTION TO BE SURE,
HE COULD SEE HIS STORY HAD A FLAW,
“IF ETERNAL GOD BE THE ONE HE BE,
HOW COULD DEATH BE HIS DESTINY ?”.

AND THEN HE TOLD ME HIS DEATH WAS A GIFT,
FOR THE SINS OF HUMANITY HE DID UPLIFT,
AND RESURRECTED TO SHOW THE PROOF,
THAT THIS STORY IS THE TRUTH.

AND AS HIS STORY PROVED HIS STORY,
HE SMILED AT ME WITH ALL GODS GLORY,
AND I LAUGHED AND SMILED TO SEE,
HE COULDN'T HIDE GOD INSIDE FROM ME.

NOW WITH WORDS HEARTFELT I DID SAY,
“THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME GOD TODAY”,
THEN HE LOST HIS SMILE AND TURNED AWAY,
SAYING DON'T DO AS I DO, DO AS I SAY.

Definition of Oppress: To keep (someone) in subserviance and hardship by the unjust exercise of authority.
All your little poems suggest oppression, and they are all directed at God/Jesus.

No, they are directed at religion, and the Christian religion in particular.

So again, enough said.
Your quote, "So, you have not talked to Jesus in peron, that is, physically?"... Well let me answer your question with a question of my own.

Would that be to avoid answering the question ???

Do we (you and I) talk, that is, physically? Or wait, maybe there are more ways to communicate besides verbal. I don't know, maybe I'm the crazy, confused bigot here.
Just for your information, that is if you actually care about answers to the questions you ask, your quote again, "If so, could you please ask Jesus to tell us all, through you, when he is supposed to come back and save everyone as the messiah, and what form will he take when he does ???" There are very clear and precise signs listed in the bible, the one you've read cover to cover, that point to the coming of the messiah and on top of that it is very clear what form he will take and what he will actually do, so I need not explain further since you've already read all about it, right, good.

So, will you ask Jesus the question or not ???

Okay, okay, perhaps you have gotten me here! Your quote, "No where in the bible am I mentioned, so how can you declare that I am accepted by Jesus ???" If you consider yourself not to be of man or of the human race or of any other part of this universe, realm or dimension, then of course, you've been left out of the bible.

The bible was not written by Jesus. Therefore, it is merely hearsay, so how can YOU declare it, or are you merely preaching from the bible ???

In conclusion, I would just like to ask you to think before you question, because fools only speak foolish things!

Thank you for asking.

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[umbrex]

do you honestly believe that there's some kind of reptillian fucks out here trying to munipulate the human race and enslave us?
Yes, we are very insane persons to believe in all of this.


........and realize that Satan is the true enemy and he is doing a great job of keeping most of us mentally deprived of what's real

AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA
HAHAHAHAHAHA

AHA

Oh wait

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

I'm done.

[truthcommission]

but essentially i don't think they're bad guys, i know you may have a different perspective on this though.
Here is my perspective on such people as I expressed to lumukanda.

They are usually well up on a lot of new age theories and developments in the personal development field. They may have read tons of material and allow their ego to fool them into thinking that they are so much more evolved or balanced as an individual than everyone else.

They use this information (as opposed to knowledge) to put down and ridicule anyone who thinks differently to them. Their usual style is to bombard others with this information by use of endless arguments and copying and pasting large tracts of other peoples books/articles.

It becomes apparent that the information they have absorbed has not become their own when you challenge them they become aggressive and defensive. In my experience real knowledge or truth does not need to be defended.

This may be how I can see through them and intuit how they are using this information as a weapon because it has not been integrated. I have seen this happen time and time again in personal development forums with people who use words such as LOVE and WE ARE ALL ONE and turn out to be quite nasty individuals who turn on you at the drop of a hat when they are exposed.

As for the ala carte new age / personal development theories they spout - it is one thing to understand it intellectually but once you abuse it to say things like you need to work on yourself (as if they are qualified) you are opening up a whole can of worms and are no different from the kinds of people David Icke or Michael Tsarion expose who use the occult and mind control to oppress people and stop them from discovering the truth.

Like many of the Nazis who killed and murdered - they were probably nice family men underneath who were just taking orders. Their particular style of psychological Nazism WILL backfire on them and I will do everything in my power to expose them the forums because I believe they are frustrated control freaks lurking behind a self constructed wall of lies.

* This will be my last reply on this thread.

[deano]

its funny that james claims he has spoken with jesus.

lets be honest.. he hasnt

[james777]

....I will get back with you all tomorrow........

[oneofmany]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif .....
ONEOFMANY; Well, first of all thank you for adding your profound and astute knowledge to this thread, because without your help we may have taken up pages of replies saying the same thing over and over and over.......or wait, maybe that is what happened.

you said, "You are very ill informed, to be throwing your opinion around at others!" First, I would like to know who you even are? Are you genuinely interested in expanding real knowledge or do you just enjoy co-signing for others?

Your Quote:
Originally Posted by james777
Well, for one, it's not my duty to prove that Jesus is real.Then why get into a debate about it if your not willing to champion your saviours cause, once denied him by my count What do you think the New Testament is? Ding, ding, ding, it's a collection of books, which happen to be historical records!!! I believe that is incorrect, and any priest will tell you that the old testament and a majority of the new has no basis in antiquity and should be taken allegorically only Let me guess though, you believe that they are all munipulated and doctored in effort to control the human race with fear?? Only for the people that don't understand what it really says Obviously, you've never actually sat down and read it for yourself and I don't mean page skimming, I mean really read. Very Asumptuous It really is so sad though, you're letting others influence your own thoughts with their nice little quotes and metaphors and the whole time that you're preaching that you have inner peace and know who you are, when you close your eyes at night, you still have anger, confusion and questions.......it's ok, I've been where you are, you're gonna make it!!!

Ok, good, I'm gonna go through this step-by-step for you okay. Pay attention because I don't want you asking me to explain things that I already am, cool? Cool! NOW, If you'll read back through this thread, you'll notice that I wasn't even the one who brought Jesus into this debate. It was brought on by an individual(or oneness, however you look at it) who clearly has issues and many questions about Jesus, God and the Bible. The simple fact that Jesus has become almost the central debated figure in this thread proves that there is a lot of buzz concerning his existence and so-forth. Although this isn't hard evidence it does raise some interest in the minds of many. You wouldn't ask me to prove that your body is made up of more than just physical tissue and that you do indeed have a soul/spirit within you, right? See, there are just some things that cannot be proven in this physical realm, but don't blame me. If you look back through history on many occasions, there were men who died for their radical beliefs, and time proved them to be absolutely 100% correct. So me not being able to prove the existence of Jesus certaintly doesn't disprove him, and my duty here isn't to PROVE his existence, but to share his word.
Whether you believe or don't believe the New Testament to be actual historical records doesn't change the fact's that they actually are. You can use this as a tool to help you understand the history of the New Testament:
(http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursede...ew+Testamen t (http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=656&id=656&d=New+Testament)) And if you're referring to a priest of, The Church of Satan, then of course they'll tell you it should be taken "allegorically only".
Now this is where I really enjoy replying to you! Keep an open mind for this one. You are obviously one of the, "people that don't understand what it really says", because if you actually did, we wouldn't even be having this debate! So I'll tell you what, I think it'd be a lot better if you go to a quiet room, read the New Testament, analyze it, examine it, study it, scrutinize it, probe it, evaluate it, dissect it and break it down, then and only then come to me with your OWN thoughts and devotion on it, ok, good.
About being "Very Asumptuous", well asumptuous isn't even a word. So thank you for your 2 cents, but your foolishness seized your intellect.
Oh yes, of course, you're welcome! Your quote, "I like watching someone argue an unsustainable argument. Thanks James 777 for making my day "I will start with the correct spelling of the word Assumptuous, you are correct that it isn't in the dictionary, but it is part of urban slang, which was meant as a joke and went over your head, It's a word used in the lesbian scene http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=assumptuous and all that I was meaning from it is that your argument was GAY and sucked ASS. But never mind about that. You are still wrong on your supposed fact that the new testament is based on Historical record. Whole towns and cities don't even fit into the timeline of the New testament, like Bethlehem for instance. The whole bible descends from the Torah, and that came about from the Tarot, so what is it you are worshipping? oh yes, that's right, Astrology nothing but. The new testament is a work of fiction to bring about control of a larger set of people, with different ideas on who and what to worship, and to put it all in one book, Also you have to ask WHO WROTE AND CHANGED THE NEW TESTAMENT as it stands today?. You will find that it was a man by the name of Sir Francis Bacon on behest of King James 1st. This man not only changed the bible from it's previous form, he put in codes and cyphers to reveal the true information to the worthy, because he knew the truth about Jesus and the whole book, just like many before him. If you worship Jesus, your worshipping the SUN, which is his symbolic representation. As for the rest of the guff you wrote, I have no trouble interpreting the Bible thank you, but maybe you should use the link and get a bit more brainwashed hey? To say I don't understand it http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_40.gif

[i_am]

ONEOFMANY; About being "Very Asumptuous", well asumptuous isn't even a word. So thank you for your 2 cents, but your foolishness seized your intellect.

Oh Dear! One should make sure one is word perfect before pointing out another's grammatical 'mistakes'.

As oneofmany has pointed out assumptuous is an urban expression but please tell me what dictionary this is in.

to munipulate the human race

I was referring to the so-called Reps that genetically munipulate us

they are all munipulated and doctored

We did have a whole thread about spelling and grammar and the general consensus was that it was important that people were able to express themselves without being belittled http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2324&highlight=spelling+grammar
and I know I should have stuck to that but, bugger it. What's good for the gander should be good for the goose, eh?

Hopefully this thread will be closed as it has turned into a sledging match. There are fun threads and there are serious discussion threads. This is neither of those IMO.

I really hate to see good people like one and iaaia being drawn into this shit. Back off guys and let them talk amongst themselves.

[umbrex]

First, I would like to know who you even are? Are you genuinely interested in expanding real knowledge or do you just enjoy co-signing for others?

I'd say people on this forum are here because of mindexpansion. But yours is perhaps the correct and ONLY feasable ?


What do you think the New Testament is? Ding, ding, ding, it's a collection of books, which happen to be historical records!!!


The biggest lie ever, carefully constructed to install a certain mindset - obviously. I you really think those are genuine historical records u are either

a) naive

b) american

c) both

U can check out this link, which DISPROVES beyond doubts, what is written.
http://www.karenlyster.com/genesis4.html

It really is so sad though, you're letting others influence your own thoughts with their nice little quotes and metaphors and the whole time that you're preaching that you have inner peace and know who you are, when you close your eyes at night, you still have anger, confusion and questions.......it's ok, I've been where you are, you're gonna make it!!!

So unless you are christian, you can't find peace of mind while going through tonnes of documents, books etc. What's up with the preaching, honestly ?
I am allready getting tired of reading your betterknowing and condescending answers.

Ok, good, I'm gonna go through this step-by-step for you okay.

Same here.
Now, this is what fueled me to dissect this post:

If you'll read back through this thread, you'll notice that I wasn't even the one who brought Jesus into this debate. It was brought on by an individual(or oneness, however you look at it) who clearly has issues and many questions about Jesus, God and the Bible. The simple fact that Jesus has become almost the central debated figure in this thread proves that there is a lot of buzz concerning his existence and so-forth. Although this isn't hard evidence it does raise some interest in the minds of many. You wouldn't ask me to prove that your body is made up of more than just physical tissue and that you do indeed have a soul/spirit within you, right? See, there are just some things that cannot be proven in this physical realm, but don't blame me. If you look back through history on many occasions, there were men who died for their radical beliefs, and time proved them to be absolutely 100% correct. So me not being able to prove the existence of Jesus certaintly doesn't disprove him, and my duty here isn't to PROVE his existence, but to share his word.

LOL dude
.......LOL!

So let me get this straight. You come here and tell us that we are 100% wrong in our assumptions about the world today, in fact this is biblical and christian :confused:
This will act as fuel on a fire on this forum, since most here are on a free spiritual level, actually trying to discover and uncover facts about the real world history.
So because ur "solution" is very controversial and people redicule you for choosing "god & co" as the answer, that is somehow proof that jesus actually exists ? I mean - we can't disprove it.

IF I TOLD U U WERE RULED BY A GIANT SPAGHETTIMONSTER IN THE SKY WOULD U THEN CHOOSE TO BELIEVE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE DISPROVEN?!?!?!

If the dude you answered had any problems with the bible and jebus, it isn't insecurity - it's sanity.

Whether you believe or don't believe the New Testament to be actual historical records doesn't change the fact's that they actually are.

http://www.karenlyster.com/genesis4.html

Actually - NO!

Now this is where I really enjoy replying to you! Keep an open mind for this one. You are obviously one of the, "people that don't understand what it really says", because if you actually did, we wouldn't even be having this debate! So I'll tell you what, I think it'd be a lot better if you go to a quiet room, read the New Testament, analyze it, examine it, study it, scrutinize it, probe it, evaluate it, dissect it and break it down, then and only then come to me with your OWN thoughts and devotion on it, ok, good.

So what you are really saying is that if you go into confined quarters and stay in there long enough with a book and analyze it, examine it, study it, scrutinize it, probe it, evaluate it, dissect it and break it down, u might actually have end up brainwashing yourself ??
Guess that makes sence.


About being "Very Asumptuous", well asumptuous isn't even a word. So thank you for your 2 cents, but your foolishness seized your intellect.

Now this is what i call the losers arguement. When you don't have any more bullets in the chamber u go for spelling. I have seen this time and time again, and basically reveals a weak or unable to arguement character.
And after all it turned out to be a word, so i guess the joke is on you (i am laughing, count on that)


Well, enough said. It is obvious that you don't even listen to your own thoughts let alone others.

So unless we accept your argument, we are the arrowminded ones ??


You, my friend, astound me. You're fighting so hard for a cause that you really know nothing about. I consider all material in the Bible to be upper-level, because first of all you have to have an open mind to begin to understand it and on top of that it takes upper-level reasoning to comprehend it, but you clearly don't even grasp this concept, so enough said about that!

So you have to be someone very, very special to read the doctrin of the masses throughout more than 1000 years. Basically, you are here putting youself on a piedestal which we can never touch. Psychologically drawing a personal redicule assurance, so at the end of the day, despite whatever arguement, you are the one who is right.

maybe I'm the crazy, confused bigot here.

I would perhaps more say that you are an indoktrinated poor boy whos mommy and daddy should be taken to court for vandalizing your mind.

I am sorry for this ranting, but the posts just asked for it.

[i am all i am]

Watch out I am And Umbrex, you may be accused of being cohorts of mine.

Obviously this is a conspiracy to gang up together. http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1425/aenahasifpp1.gif

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_30.gif


With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[umbrex]

Watch out I am And Umbrex, you may be accused of being cohorts of mine.


In this case, i will take it as a compliment :)

[lumukanda]

IF I TOLD U U WERE RULED BY A GIANT SPAGHETTIMONSTER IN THE SKY WOULD U THEN CHOOSE TO BELIEVE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE DISPROVEN?!?!?!


hey! leave the spaghetti monster out of this, he's not bothering anyone.

[i_am]

Watch out I am And Umbrex, you may be accused of being cohorts of mine.

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

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[pollock]

hey! leave the spaghetti monster out of this, he's not bothering anyone.

Yes he is acctually a good guy!
http://goodshow.net/archives/noodledoodle_bg3b.jpg

http://www.venganza.org/

And for the big hollidays
http://www.phobe.com/fsmhat/index.html

Pasta rules
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[umbrex]

Yes he is acctually a good guy!
http://goodshow.net/archives/noodledoodle_bg3b.jpg

http://www.venganza.org/

And for the big hollidays
http://www.phobe.com/fsmhat/index.html

Pasta rules
F

Priceless :)

[lumukanda]

Yes he is acctually a good guy!
http://goodshow.net/archives/noodledoodle_bg3b.jpg

http://www.venganza.org/

And for the big hollidays
http://www.phobe.com/fsmhat/index.html

Pasta rules
F

hahahaha, that is bloody brilliant! it'd make a great t-shirt.

[james777]

UMBREX; Hello my friend and thanks for joining the conversation this time with some intellect. Despite the fact that I was speaking in direct reference to questions being asked to me, by another member, I appreciate your questions and comments! After all this IS a public forum, open to all!

Quote:
Originally Posted by james777
First, I would like to know who you even are? Are you genuinely interested in expanding real knowledge or do you just enjoy co-signing for others?

I pose the same question to you. I believe most people are here for mind-expansion, but most of the one's I've spoken to are close-minded as they come, or is it half-closed, half-open. Who knows, but the point here is that I'm not the one attacking others or posing my beliefs on others, I'm simply answering questions that are being asked of me. Now I cannot help it if my sturdy wisdom makes you or anyone else uncomfortable and you feel as if I'm being patronizing to others raising a pedestal* for me to sit on. That's just your evaluation. Perhaps you should investigate the true reason that you feel I'm on a pedestal* here. With your ego aside, you'd realize that I'm sincerely interested in helping others expand true knowledge!


your quote ,The biggest lie ever, carefully constructed to install a certain mindset - obviously. I you really think those are genuine historical records u are either...

Well, I am american, but that has little to do with my beliefs. I don't even live in america, but thank you your exposing some of your true motivations of anger and irrationalization.


your quote ,So unless you are christian, you can't find peace of mind while going through tonnes of documents, books etc. What's up with the preaching, honestly ?

I've never said or claimed this, but it's nice to know that you're starting to figure things out on your own.


your quote,LOL dude
.......LOL
"So let me get this straight. You come here and tell us that we are 100% wrong in our assumptions about the world today, in fact this is biblical and christian:confused:
This will act as fuel on a fire on this forum, since most here are on a free spiritual level, actually trying to discover and uncover facts about the real world history."



First of all, I've never said anyone was 100% wrong about anything. So the fact that you try to market the idea that I'm trying to attack people, speaks for itself.
I must say that I'm actually happy that I can help fuel the fire of this forum. If you claim to be on a free spiritual level, actually trying to discover and uncover facts about the real world history, then you'd check your ego at the door because it is only causing you to be spritually blinded and thus miss out on a wealth of new facts and new knowledge that you, as a free spirit pioneer, could utilize. Instead, when someone (me) has different views from your own, you allow your anger and frustration and confusion to cloud your percipience.


your quote, "So what you are really saying is that if you go into confined quarters and stay in there long enough with a book and analyze it, examine it, study it, scrutinize it, probe it, evaluate it, dissect it and break it down, u might actually have end up brainwashing yourself ??
Guess that makes sence"

Actually, if you read in context what the purpose of going to confined quarters and reading the New Testament was meant for, you wouldn't try to draw your own conclusions. If going to confined quarters to concentrate on reading material means that you're brainwashing yourself then this may explain the very root of YOUR own views and beliefs.


"Now this is what i call the losers arguement. When you don't have any more bullets in the chamber u go for spelling. I have seen this time and time again, and basically reveals a weak or unable to arguement character.
And after all it turned out to be a word, so i guess the joke is on you (i am laughing, count on that)"

If you'll read closely, you'll notice that I never 'went for the spelling'. I only indicated that it wasn't a word. However, I do not own a lesbian dictionary, so please forgive me for not understanding a word that is contained within one, and also mis-spelled for that matter.
OOHAHAOAOAHGGHGA Now this is interesting! I've picked this word up from an urban slang gorilla dictionary. It is believed to mean; When you don't understand what you're talking about, say this......lol.....u still laughing my friend?......lol......now that's just some humor, let's not go on ranting and raving about this one.....


your quote,"So unless we accept your argument, we are the arrowminded ones ??"

Well, I've never said that, but if that's how you feel, you have every right to feel-so.


your quote,"So you have to be someone very, very special to read the doctrin of the masses throughout more than 1000 years. Basically, you are here putting youself on a piedestal which we can never touch. Psychologically drawing a personal redicule assurance, so at the end of the day, despite whatever arguement, you are the one who is right."

As a matter of fact, I believe everyone to be very, very special. It's you who must realize this in order for you to attain insightful knowledge that the Bible has to offer. Again, if you feel I'm on a pedestal* amongst us here, then that is your rightful conclusion. If you feel like I am the one who is right and you are the one who is wrong, maybe you're missing the whole point here and perchance should outline your views showing why you feel this way.


your quote, "I am allready getting tired of reading your betterknowing and condescending answers."

You have every right to read elsewhere, maybe go somewhere comfortable where you won't be challenged so you can put 'yourself' on a pedestal*.


DEANO; "its funny that james claims he has spoken with jesus."

Why is this funny?

[umbrex]

This could turn out to be the neverending flamewar, so im just going to call it quits here out of respect for the forum and its users. I have spent enough time argueing with religious people.

I will leave it as it is for everyone to see and judge for themselves.

[james777]

IAMALLIAM; Perhaps you and 'ONEOFMANY' should listen to your ally,IAM and "Back off guys and let them talk amongst themselves", because even, un-admittingly, he realizes that you're not helping your cause and at the same time look very foolish. Repeating the same things over and over and asking the same questions in different forms is not the proper way to have a fruitful dialogue. As long as you stay, half-closed, half-open minded, you just will never be able to see points of fact, even when they are directly in front of you. But to answer your question,
"So, will you ask Jesus the question or not ???" I suggest that you be the one doing the asking and don't stop there because you seem to have many, many questions for him. He is patiently waiting for you to overcome yourself and seek him. Then YOU will understand all of your doubts, fears and confusion.

[james777]

This could turn out to be the neverending flamewar, so im just going to call it quits here out of respect for the forum and its users. I have spent enough time argueing with religious people.

I will leave it as it is for everyone to see and judge for themselves.

Talk about the losers argument and not having any more bullets in the chamber. Well, at least YOU know when to quit. Maybe you can use this as a turning point in your point of view, because you no longer have validity in your concepts, as I have succesfully exposed........God bless my brother.

[umbrex]

Talk about the losers argument and not having any more bullets in the chamber. Well, at least YOU know when to quit. Maybe you can use this as a turning point in your point of view, because you no longer have validity in your concepts, as I have succesfully exposed........God bless my brother.

I honestly don't hope that you are serious. I made a stop due to the fact that what i would have written are not suitable for these forums. It's not like there isn't anyting to divulge into.

Last reply in this topic.

/out

[umbrex]

Doubleposting.

[james777]

Doubleposting.

Well, I am serious. As long as your content isn't sexually explicit, I think the moderators will let it slide, unless of course you're talking about personal attacks, which are usually the last abortive attempts of defeated men and women.

[ho1ogram]

Yes he is acctually a good guy!
http://goodshow.net/archives/noodledoodle_bg3b.jpg

http://www.venganza.org/

And for the big hollidays
http://www.phobe.com/fsmhat/index.html

Pasta rules
F

OMFG! There really is a giant spaghetti monster in the sky! I thought umbrex was having us on... man, I gotta reevaluate my life... (how come Icke's never mentioned the spaghetti monster? Shit, this must be what he's trying to distract us from with the reptilian info..)

[lumukanda]

Talk about the losers argument and not having any more bullets in the chamber. Well, at least YOU know when to quit. Maybe you can use this as a turning point in your point of view, because you no longer have validity in your concepts, as I have succesfully exposed........God bless my brother.

funny, you see it as a victory, i see it as someone who's realised he's banging his head on brick wall, and stopped.

[i am all i am]

Yes he is acctually a good guy!
http://goodshow.net/archives/noodledoodle_bg3b.jpg

http://www.venganza.org/

And for the big hollidays
http://www.phobe.com/fsmhat/index.html

Pasta rules
F

Are they the spaghetti monsters metaphoricals that we can see there ???

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_30.gif

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[i am all i am]

Do you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ James777 ???

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[james777]

"funny, you see it as a victory, i see it as someone who's realised he's banging his head on brick wall, and stopped."

Who said anything about victory? The assumptions around here are almost as overwhelming and the close-mindedness(half-open, half-closed).

[ho1ogram]

Are they the spaghetti monsters metaphoricals that we can see there ???


The man and the monster both look 'Free' to me. No book's either.. woo hoo!

[i am all i am]

Do you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ James777 ???

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif


G'day James777.

You may not have seen this question, so I thought that I would re-post it and make it larger and therefore more easy to see.

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[james777]

IAMALLIAM; Thank you for bringing this question to my attention as I did overlook it. Now to answer it....I do follow the teachings of Jesus and I do believe that the mind-set he portrays is one of divine wisdom. However, being human, it is hard for me to live up to standards of perfection. so I try. What else can I do, but try and he understands that because he too lived as a human and understands our struggles from the flesh perspective.

Now did I answer that with clarity or are you looking for something else here? If you are attempting to trap me with my own words, I'm sorry, it's just not gonna work.

[deano]

UMBREX;


[B]DEANO; "its funny that james claims he has spoken with jesus."

Why is this funny?

because its lies. jesus only exists in the bible. why do you put your faith in one book?

the fact is that the story of jesus has been symbolically told hundreds of times before in the ancient world.

religion divides. be careful

as bill hicks said..we do need a new philosophy, and maybe even a new religion and thats ok because thats our right. god loves us no matter what we do.
and we do have to base our new religions on the principles of jesus(whether he existed or not doesnt matter) 'love your brother as yourself, because he is yourself, literally. we are all one. god is love and love is god and if thats all there is there can be no opposite.

i dont buy into this accepting jesus cobblers. its not true.

cant you accept that maybe infinite love maybe is the only truth. i think if everyone accepted that then there would be no fear..only love. if there is fear in a belief..then thats not the way. sorry

[cycle of eternity]

i know there are ETs here manipulating shit because all of this isn't of human
intelligence...it's all so damn intricate. whether they're reptilians
or not doesn't really matter...because they're here. i wouldn't be surprised
if they are reptilian, shape-shiftin' ETs but that's really besides the point -
it really makes sense tho.

[i am all i am]

IAMALLIAM; Thank you for bringing this question to my attention as I did overlook it. Now to answer it....I do follow the teachings of Jesus and I do believe that the mind-set he portrays is one of divine wisdom. However, being human, it is hard for me to live up to standards of perfection. so I try. What else can I do, but try and he understands that because he too lived as a human and understands our struggles from the flesh perspective.

Now did I answer that with clarity or are you looking for something else here? If you are attempting to trap me with my own words, I'm sorry, it's just not gonna work.

Matthew 5:42"Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away."

Would you please give me $1, 000.00 ???

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[james777]

IAMALLIAM;

your quote,

Matthew 5:42
"Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away."


Would you please give me $1, 000.00 ???

Well if I give it to 'thee', then that's not borrowing. I 'give' you free knowledge, but when it comes to material possesions you'll have to borrow.

And it's so creative how you use one of the houses of astrology to quote the sun!

IAM's quote, "And please don't quote the bible. It proves nothing."

I'm not so sure that your friend will appreciate you using scripture.

[i am all i am]

You've avoided the question James777.

Matthew 5:42
"Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away."

Would you please give me $1, 000.00 ???

I do follow the teachings of Jesus

You say that you follow the teavhings of Jesus, so would you please answer the question ???

Well if I give it to 'thee', then that's not borrowing.

If you read Matthew 5:42, it says "Give to him...", not thee. I am the "him" that is asking, will you please answer the question.


With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[deano]

avoided my responce too:(

[pollock]

Are they the spaghetti monsters metaphoricals that we can see there ???

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_30.gif

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

They are his meatballs, yes!
With which he can smite down his enemys or lift his followers to the heavens!

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6962/thumbs20upoe4.gif
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[james777]

IAMALLIAM;

your quote,If you read Matthew 5:42, it says "Give to him...", not thee. I am the "him" that is asking, will you please answer the question.

Psalm 92:6
The senseless man does not know, fools do not understand

Proverbs 12:23
A prudent man keeps his knowledge to himself, but the heart of fools blurts out folly.

You seem to be missing the whole point here and to answer your question, NO, I will not give you $1000.00.

[i am all i am]

IAMALLIAM;

your quote,If you read Matthew 5:42, it says "Give to him...", not thee. I am the "him" that is asking, will you please answer the question.

You seem to be missing the whole point here and to answer your question, NO, I will not give you $1000.00.

So if you will not follow the teachings of Jesus, why do you expect anyone else to ???

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[james777]

IAMALLIAM;

"So if you will not follow the teachings of Jesus, why do you expect anyone else to ???"

Honestly, I do not expect anyone to do anything. I have never claimed to follow every teaching of Jesus, I said 'I try'. Plus, you never asked my reasoning as to why I won't let you have $1,000.00, maybe it's because I just don't have it. So if you've, again, assumed that I'm using selfish intent, you've yet again been fooled and manipulated by your very own ego. Pride is a dangerous thing!

Psalm 10:4
In his pride the wicked does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God

Psalm 31:18
Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous.

Proverbs 11:2
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

You should be ashamed of yourself for claiming to be on a 'free spiritual level'! You're on a one track mindset that leads you in circles gaining momentum for disaster.

[i am all i am]

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That 'cracks me up' James777


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[i am all i am]

IAMALLIAM;

"So if you will not follow the teachings of Jesus, why do you expect anyone else to ???"

Honestly, I do not expect anyone to do anything. I have never claimed to follow every teaching of Jesus, I said 'I try'. Plus, you never asked my reasoning as to why I won't let you have $1,000.00, maybe it's because I just don't have it. So if you've, again, assumed that I'm using selfish intent, you've yet again been fooled and manipulated by your very own ego. Pride is a dangerous thing!

I asked "Would you please give me $1, 000.00 ???". I did not stipulate any time period for you to gather together the $1, 000.00.

So who is it that is assuming ???

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[james777]

Now you're just being ridiculous! So please continue to laugh.

Laugh: Make the spontaneous sounds and movements of the face and body that are the instinctive expression of lively amusement and sometimes also of contempt and derision.

[i am all i am]

Now you're just being ridiculous!

I asked "Would you please give me $1, 000.00 ???". I did not stipulate any time period for you to gather together the $1, 000.00.

So who is it that is assuming ???

You continue to make assumptions and now accusations.

Who is it that is being ridiculous ???


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[james777]

IAMALLIAM;

Do you not realize that you just keep repeating the same things over and over again? Do you actually have a point here or do you just like looking foolish?

I'm going to have to request that unless you want to ask me something fruitful instead of trying to insult my intellegence, then to please not direct any of your comments in my direction. When you argue with fools, then no one can tell who the fool is, so I'm going to have to stop speaking to you.

Thanks for understanding!

[bigus_dickus]

why is it that you're telling each other what the other is doing?

you are telling each other what the other is doing.

there, i did it too.

[umbrex]

why is it that you're telling each other what the other is doing?

you are telling each other what the other is doing.

there, i did it too.

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Yes, the lord works in mysterious ways.

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This is Umbrex' evil twin btw. Umbrex had no part in this!

[i am all i am]

IAMALLIAM;

Do you not realize that you just keep repeating the same things over and over again? Do you actually have a point here or do you just like looking foolish?

I'm going to have to request that unless you want to ask me something fruitful instead of trying to insult my intellegence, then to please not direct any of your comments in my direction. When you argue with fools, then no one can tell who the fool is, so I'm going to have to stop speaking to you.

Thanks for understanding!

........unless of course you're talking about personal attacks, which are usually the last abortive attempts of defeated men and women.

If you are attempting to trap me with my own words, I'm sorry, it's just not gonna work.

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[james777]

Quote:
Originally Posted by james777
........unless of course you're talking about personal attacks, which are usually the last abortive attempts of defeated men and women.
Quote:
Originally Posted by james777
If you are attempting to trap me with my own words, I'm sorry, it's just not gonna work.

And your point being what?

[i am all i am]

"Sir, I have found you an argument. I am not obliged to find you an understanding."

-Samuel Johnson.



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"Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute."

-Josh Billings



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[aznality]

its funny that james claims he has spoken with jesus.

lets be honest.. he hasnt

I have a friend who claims to communicate with Jesus too. When I ask him what Jesus sounds like, he responds but saying he sounds like whatever you choose to imagine him to sound like. It makes you wonder a lot of things, doesn't it.

[james777]

AZNALITY;

"I have a friend who claims to communicate with Jesus too. When I ask him what Jesus sounds like, he responds but saying he sounds like whatever you choose to imagine him to sound like. It makes you wonder a lot of things, doesn't it"

I cannot speak for your friend here, but what I can tell you is that it's a form of non-verbal communication. It's not like sitting at the bar and talking with a friend, this is a much deeper type of communication. Your mind has to be still, focused and open to really here what Jesus has to say. Now, you can say all sorts of things about this and there are no facts to prove or disprove it. It's just one of those, 'if you know you know, if you don't you don't', things.

[chewbacca]

Let's be real here for a moment.......do you honestly believe that there's some kind of reptillian fucks out here trying to munipulate the human race and enslave us?

Someone/thing is.

I know, I know, it's actually a little bit of fun to believe in these things that we have no control over, but in reality, it's just a way for us to NOT take responsibility for ourselves, actions....so on and so on......we need to take back the control of ourselves and our countries, our governments and societies, we're in control here and we are the only ones that can enslave ourselves

Maybe the thought of such monolithic evil scares you. I know it beats me into the ground.

...........If these reptillian niggas really do excist, then where the fuck are they...hiding in D.U.M.B.'s with other ET's and bio-robots and PLF's......LOL......common people, wake up here

Where do evil aliens usually hang out then?

.......this brings me to my original question, "Who gives a fuck and who doesn't"? If anyone really cares about our human race, then we'll quit embracing this Luciferian Dogma about all this afformentioned shit and realize that Satan is the true enemy and he is doing a great job of keeping most of us mentally deprived of what's real...........And if by some chance I'm the irrational one, and I'm the crazy one because I don't believe in lizard gods and shit, and these fuckin' reps are real and shit, Fuck them anyways!!!!!! This is our planet and our lives and if they want to control us then they can kiss our asses....When did we become such pussies anyways and give in so easily, ecspecially to some fuckin' lizards!!! As far as I'm concerned we can all have gator boots and luggage...........lol..........lol........

...... You're funny.

[gordonfreeman]

I thought this thread is dead.

[james777]

Someone/thing is.

Perhaps, but I doubt it's retilian space aliens..........



Maybe the thought of such monolithic evil scares you. I know it beats me into the ground.

Scared, no, just don't thinks it's as diabolical as space-aliens hell-bent on enslaving us.



Where do evil aliens usually hang out then?

I previously believed them to usually be around sci-fi movie studio's and maybe the 'Oval Office'......



...... You're funny.

I'm glad you see the humor......

[james777]

I thought this thread is dead.

me too......

[i am all i am]

AZNALITY;

"I have a friend who claims to communicate with Jesus too. When I ask him what Jesus sounds like, he responds but saying he sounds like whatever you choose to imagine him to sound like. It makes you wonder a lot of things, doesn't it"

I cannot speak for your friend here, but what I can tell you is that it's a form of non-verbal communication. It's not like sitting at the bar and talking with a friend, this is a much deeper type of communication. Your mind has to be still, focused and open to really here what Jesus has to say. Now, you can say all sorts of things about this and there are no facts to prove or disprove it. It's just one of those, 'if you know you know, if you don't you don't', things.

How do you translate "what Jesus has to say" from a "non-verbal communication" into words ???



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[james777]

LOL.....like I said, it's one of those, "if you know you know, if you don't you don't", things.

[i am all i am]

LOL.....like I said, it's one of those, "if you know you know, if you don't you don't", things.

I asked how YOU do it.

So, if YOU know, then could you please explain how YOU do it ???


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[james777]

It's a type of 'telepathy' that our very own souls are already dialed into. All you have to do is activate what you already have and seek God/Jesus and the communication will become free. Like I said though, 'If you know, you know, if you don't, you don't'......but coming from someone such as yourself, 'believing all things are possible and all', this concept should not be too hard to apprehend.

[i am all i am]

It's a type of 'telepathy' that our very own souls are already dialed into. All you have to do is activate what you already have and seek God/Jesus and the communication will become free. Like I said though, 'If you know, you know, if you don't, you don't'......but coming from someone such as yourself, 'believing all things are possible and all', this concept should not be too hard to apprehend.

Well I comprehend it, although "apprehend" is another thing entirely.

Do you think that it is possible that the soul is the "telepathy", and that being soul, connected, is who we are ???


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[james777]

IAMALLIAM;

your quote, Well I comprehend it, although "apprehend" is another thing entirely.

Do you think that it is possible that the soul is the "telepathy", and that being soul, connected, is who we are ??

Apprehend- to understand or perceive

Comprehend- to grasp mentally; understand

Well, in my perception, the soul is who we are, made up of our mind and our inner-conscience. I believe the soul is made up of many aspects, even beyond understanding or explaining at this physical level/realm. I believe our bodies are just what we 'posses' or 'like a car, drive' while we are here in this physical 3d world of reality and mis-conception. So yes, I believe 'being soul, connected' is who we are, but the tricky thing is coming to the point where we 'know' who we are.............and you my friend are right on the verge of true self discovery, but you're gonna have to leave what you 'think' you know behind.....

[i am all i am]

IAMALLIAM;

your quote, Well I comprehend it, although "apprehend" is another thing entirely.

Do you think that it is possible that the soul is the "telepathy", and that being soul, connected, is who we are ??

Apprehend- to understand or perceive

Comprehend- to grasp mentally; understand

Well, in my perception, the soul is who we are, made up of our mind and our inner-conscience. I believe the soul is made up of many aspects, even beyond understanding or explaining at this physical level/realm. I believe our bodies are just what we 'posses' or 'like a car, drive' while we are here in this physical 3d world of reality and mis-conception. So yes, I believe 'being soul, connected' is who we are, but the tricky thing is coming to the point where we 'know' who we are.............and you my friend are right on the verge of true self discovery, but you're gonna have to leave what you 'think' you know behind.....

APPREHEND: v. seize, arrest.

It's a joke, a play on words...

Source Of Uconditional Love, or Source Of Universal Life, or Source Of United Living.

Love In Form Evovling.

Lifes Outward Voluntary Expression.


I AM AN ANGEL

I AM AN ANGEL TRUE,
WITH NO PLACE I FEAR TO TREAD,
AND THIS KNOWLEDGE I GIVE TO YOU,
FOR YOUR SOUL TO BE FED.

YOU TRULY ARE IMMORTAL,
NO DEATH THERE IS FOR YOU,
YOUR MIND AND BODY A PORTAL,
FOR YOUR SOUL TO SHINE THROUGH.

FOR WHEN YOUR SOUL DOES SHINE,
ALL PLACES ARE ALIGHT,
YOU TRULY ARE DIVINE,
AN ANGEL NOW IN FLIGHT.

WITH NOTHING YOU CANNOT DO,
AND NO PLACE YOU CANNOT GO,
IT'S NOW UP TO YOU,
TO LET YOUR LOVE SHOW.


OUR SOUL

WITH THE WORDS WE USE,
MIND AND BODY DOES COMBINE,
TO EXPERIENCE LIFE WE CHOOSE,
OUR SOUL TO DEFINE.

WITH THE WORDS WE SAY,
WE HAVE CHOSEN OUR FATE,
FOR MIND AND BODY EACH DAY,
OUR SOUL TO CREATE.

WITH THE WORDS WE COMMUNICATE,
WE CHOOSE WHAT WE FEEL,
WITH LIFE WE ORCHESTRATE,
OUR SOUL TO REVEAL.




What if I said that an angel is merely an angle, and an angle is merely a perspective, or point of view ???

What perspective would you have of these poems ???


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[james777]

IAMALLIAM;

your quote, What if I said that an angel is merely an angle, and an angle is merely a perspective, or point of view ???

Honestly, I just wouldn't care. Your logic (or lack of) just seems so vapid to me that I'm just not moved, interested or enlightened by ANYthing you say.


your quote, What perspective would you have of these poems ???

Would I have or Do I have? I gotta be honest, I just didn't read the little poems........the last one's you posted were just nonsense to me, so I just figured, 'more of the same claptrap'.........

[andreadoria]

...I never said they don't exist...?

Actually you did, because when you say: "Let's be real here for a moment.......do you honestly believe that there's some kind of reptillian fucks out here trying to munipulate the human race and enslave us?......LOL.....I have to laugh because this is BULLSHIT!!!" you are saying that they doesn't exist and we are all victims of hallucinations, so don't try to return back of what you said, it's futile now. :confused:

I did talk with many abductee around Italy/Europe, and they say always the same bunch of craps. All of them told that they look like a "standing crocodile", very ugly, doing some kind of blood analysis on them, and just to let you know, they are people that doesn't invent this stuff because they wanna sell books, or they wanna just "appear". Actually they all asked to me to don't appear in my interviews, because they have fear about the judge of the others that could think they have mental diseases. They just wanna live in peace.

You know James? To understand this stuff, you don't need to believe that they wanna enslave us, because if exists people around the world that doesn't believe in some kind of "weird evil alien control" on us, the Draconians did a GREAT JOB, even on you.

You don't need to see. You just need to observe. It's different. :o

[james777]

ANDREADORIA;

Actually you did, because when you say: "Let's be real here for a moment.......do you honestly believe that there's some kind of reptillian fucks out here trying to munipulate the human race and enslave us?......LOL.....I have to laugh because this is BULLSHIT!!!"

Although you don't have the ability to read my mind and know what I meant in saying that, you do have every right to speculate and conclude as you wish. What I was actually saying is that I don't believe in any type of reptilian alien race trying to manipulate and enslave 'us', the human race. There could be some reptilian alien race out there somewhere though. Either way, I honestly don't care, "Fuck Em'!"

[andreadoria]

ANDREADORIA;

Actually you did, because when you say: "Let's be real here for a moment.......do you honestly believe that there's some kind of reptillian fucks out here trying to munipulate the human race and enslave us?......LOL.....I have to laugh because this is BULLSHIT!!!"

Although you don't have the ability to read my mind and know what I meant in saying that, you do have every right to speculate and conclude as you wish. What I was actually saying is that I don't believe in any type of reptilian alien race trying to manipulate and enslave 'us', the human race. There could be some reptilian alien race out there somewhere though. Either way, I honestly don't care, "Fuck Em'!"

What you meant it doesn't correspond of what you said. So the next time before saying that are BULLSHITS, just say what you said right now, so we can understand. Respect the work of thousands of researchers that are working on this topic. Attacking something you don't know, and laughing at us, it doesn't make you a "clear". I hope you're lying eyes will open, someday. Don't be angry, or you react exactly like the Reps. Love is the only definition to be a human. Angry bring more angry.

[james777]

Okay, whatever you say........

[i am all i am]

IAMALLIAM;

your quote, What if I said that an angel is merely an angle, and an angle is merely a perspective, or point of view ???

Honestly, I just wouldn't care. Your logic (or lack of) just seems so vapid to me that I'm just not moved, interested or enlightened by ANYthing you say.

Well, you have obviously been "moved" enough to type out a response.....in fact, you've been "moved" to respond many times already.

So, is this really "Honest" ???

your quote, What perspective would you have of these poems ???

Would I have or Do I have? I gotta be honest, I just didn't read the little poems........the last one's you posted were just nonsense to me, so I just figured, 'more of the same claptrap'.........

How can you come to an understanding to make a judgement without having first read the material ???

Do you make all of your judgements in this manner ???


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[the festival spirit]

I give a fuck.


Wow just realised I have been celebate for 3.5 years

[mada88]

Are yes! instead of you trying to prove things how about you dis-prove things like the reps. Go on and would like to see you try.

[humanswin]

James 777 you joined in april 2007? It's nice to be active,but 734 posts..do you have a job? Or is this your job? I think I'd rather read,lets say lovely lady lita,who joined in april,who has 8 posts. That aside,I find your language vulgar,c'mon I assume you know that base language leads to base feelings..i.e. you lower the level of the discussion with your limited use of the language.What I really would ask you is not to use the word niggas,your picture looks pretty white,and you are insulting my wife and friends,who are very not white..I will ask you kindly to refrain from using that kind of language as well.I ask you as a gentleman to re-think some of your terminology here. Free speech,but not demeaning speech. As far as your point question, I care, they exist, it's real so deal.....I will see what else you have to say,but if it is anything like this,it will surely be a waste of time'

[james777]

James 777 you joined in april 2007? It's nice to be active,but 734 posts..do you have a job? Or is this your job? I think I'd rather read,lets say lovely lady lita,who joined in april,who has 8 posts. That aside,I find your language vulgar,c'mon I assume you know that base language leads to base feelings..i.e. you lower the level of the discussion with your limited use of the language.What I really would ask you is not to use the word niggas,your picture looks pretty white,and you are insulting my wife and friends,who are very not white..I will ask you kindly to refrain from using that kind of language as well.I ask you as a gentleman to re-think some of your terminology here. Free speech,but not demeaning speech. As far as your point question, I care, they exist, it's real so deal.....I will see what else you have to say,but if it is anything like this,it will surely be a waste of time'

first of all man, you don't know shit about me or wut races is mixed up inside of me..so your judgmental attitude is already pissin me off......for the respect of the sensitive man..I'll tone it down for you though......why you so in my business about posts I have and time I've been here....?? I work on my own time...I'm no 'slave' to the system....if you're really that interested.I do graphic design and video editing....not that it's important though.........but to your point about reps.....you may believe in them, but you have no proof......they're only as real as you make 'em cuz.......don't be scared of the truth when it looks at you hard....

P.S. U ever heard of a Puerto Rican?? Soy tan cansado de estos fuckers blancos de la madre!.....lol

[revolution 9]

I've been getting pretty offended at all the fucking profanity up in this bitch myself.

[humanswin]

i am in a mixed marrige..you offended me( i'll get used to it I'm sure..I'm new)..thats why i was on you..i live in the 3rd biggest clan county in the country..i just didnt know what you were about when you said niggas..i guess i just have an attitude about these things..you can be a minority and still be a racist...you're puerto rican not black..do you like black people to call you a stinkin rican? probably not. because youre not, you are a man...curse all you wish or use racial terms, it is your right..but it is my right to ask you to rethink it..thanks

[james777]

i am in a mixed marrige..you offended me( i'll get used to it I'm sure..I'm new)..thats why i was on you..i live in the 3rd biggest clan county in the country..i just didnt know what you were about when you said niggas..i guess i just have an attitude about these things..you can be a minority and still be a racist...you're puerto rican not black..do you like black people to call you a stinkin rican? probably not. because youre not, you are a man...curse all you wish or use racial terms, it is your right..but it is my right to ask you to rethink it..thanks

Puerto Rican
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Puerto Rican
Puertorriqueño


Notable Puerto Ricans:
Ricky Martin • Joseph M. Acaba • Jennifer Lopez
Luis Muñoz Rivera • Daddy Yankee • José Celso Barbosa
Total population
Puerto Rican
7,700,000 Americans
(Island population is U.S Commonwealth Citizens)

Regions with significant populations
Puerto Rico (2004 est.) 3,900,000 [1]
United States (2004 est.) 3,800,000 [2]
Languages
Spanish and English
Religions
Roman Catholic, Protestantism,Santeria,Judaism,Islam
Related ethnic groups
Other Spanish people, African people, Amerindians, Hispanics, Latinos and Mestizos
Puerto Rican refers to anyone who was born in, or whose ancestors are from, Puerto Rico. It can also refer to anything from Puerto Rico, such as Puerto Rican rums or Puerto Rican cuisine, however this article specifically refers to the use of this proper adjective when it refers to a person or people of Puerto Rican ancestry.
Puerto Ricans, who also commonly identify themselves as Boricua, are largely the descendants of native Taíno Indians, Europeans, African slaves or a blend of these groups which has produced a very multi-cultural and diversified population. The population of Puerto Ricans is estimated to be between 8 to 10 million worldwide, with most living within the islands of Puerto Rico and in the United States.

I cannot be offended unless I offend myself......

[humanswin]

I just talked with jamess777..he is very respectable and thoughtful. I dont know if agree with him on much,because I dont know him or many people here.I will say he is a good guy and I appreciate him writing me back..i will learn my way here and not jump to conclusions.. alot of us are probably strongly opionated and we can perhaps work together finding common ground along the way.

[infinitely free]

James 777 you joined in april 2007? It's nice to be active,but 734 posts..do you have a job? Or is this your job? I think I'd rather read,lets say lovely lady lita,who joined in april,who has 8 posts. That aside,I find your language vulgar,c'mon I assume you know that base language leads to base feelings..i.e. you lower the level of the discussion with your limited use of the language.What I really would ask you is not to use the word niggas,your picture looks pretty white,and you are insulting my wife and friends,who are very not white..I will ask you kindly to refrain from using that kind of language as well.I ask you as a gentleman to re-think some of your terminology here. Free speech,but not demeaning speech. As far as your point question, I care, they exist, it's real so deal.....I will see what else you have to say,but if it is anything like this,it will surely be a waste of time'

Nice to have you, humanswin! ;)

[humanswin]

thank you infinitely free..like your name..a lot..i might have some trouble here..i went from being down on james777 and now we are bruddas..we have a lot in common..shoot i hope everyone i disagree with can be friends too..at least it's a thought

[infinitely free]

..shoot i hope everyone i disagree with can be friends too..at least it's a thought

Well...
Didn't somebody say, that disagreements bear the Truth ;)!
:D He he!

[mada88]

first of all man, you don't know shit about me or wut races is mixed up inside of me..so your judgmental attitude is already pissin me off......for the respect of the sensitive man..I'll tone it down for you though......why you so in my business about posts I have and time I've been here....?? I work on my own time...I'm no 'slave' to the system....if you're really that interested.I do graphic design and video editing....not that it's important though.........but to your point about reps.....you may believe in them, but you have no proof......they're only as real as you make 'em cuz.......don't be scared of the truth when it looks at you hard....

P.S. U ever heard of a Puerto Rican?? Soy tan cansado de estos fuckers blancos de la madre!.....lol

Not a slave to the system! lol of course you are! If you where free why would you be on an internet forum?

[james777]

Not a slave to the system! lol of course you are! If you where free why would you be on an internet forum?

Now read this quote you just wrote.....only look in the mirror when you say it to yourself......

......I'm here partly to be a reflection......it has nothing to do with being a 'slave' to the system....if you are, you are......your business....

[abrilliantone]

O.K. Let's end this shit right now. For those of yous who believe in shape-shifting reptilians keep on believing in them. For those of yous who don't believe in them keep on not believing in them. Because you must realize that no matter what anybody says, what anybody shows you. No One is gonna believe in something or change their beliefs in something if they dont want to. Beliefs are also in the eyes of the beholder.

[revolution 9]

this thread is brimming with e-drama

[mada88]

I heard that shape shifting is impossible because it breaks the laws of thermodynamics according to Dr. Deagle that is.

[mada88]

Now read this quote you just wrote.....only look in the mirror when you say it to yourself......

......I'm here partly to be a reflection......it has nothing to do with being a 'slave' to the system....if you are, you are......your business....

You just can't stop fighting can you? you'll keep lashing out till the end. Face it you are wrong about some things. Do you keep thinking that your right? and you must tell others on the forum how wrong there beliefs are? eat lead.

[hutanic]

If anyone really cares about our human race, then we'll quit embracing this Luciferian Dogma about all this afformentioned shit and realize that Satan is the true enemy and he is doing a great job of keeping most of us mentally deprived of what's real...........And if by some chance I'm the irrational one, and I'm the crazy one because I don't believe in lizard gods

And satan is described as what? Ohh yea big red dragon also called old snake. Ok thank u for clearing that out for me o rational one. Nope u are not crazy for no believing in anything its your choice what to believe only your logic fails.

[nati killah]

O.K. Let's end this shit right now. For those of yous who believe in shape-shifting reptilians keep on believing in them. For those of yous who don't believe in them keep on not believing in them. Because you must realize that no matter what anybody says, what anybody shows you. No One is gonna believe in something or change their beliefs in something if they dont want to. Beliefs are also in the eyes of the beholder.

Yep, this was the only honest answer I was ever looking for.......

You just can't stop fighting can you? you'll keep lashing out till the end. Face it you are wrong about some things. Do you keep thinking that your right? and you must tell others on the forum how wrong there beliefs are? eat lead.

I'm not fighting......your struggle is within......I'm just helping you face it in order to defeat it....I don't think I'd like lead very much....

[mariag]

O.K. Let's end this shit right now. For those of yous who believe in shape-shifting reptilians keep on believing in them. For those of yous who don't believe in them keep on not believing in them. Because you must realize that no matter what anybody says, what anybody shows you. No One is gonna believe in something or change their beliefs in something if they dont want to. Beliefs are also in the eyes of the beholder.


Well said :)

[woghd]

We need to all come together.

Alex Jones got arrested yesterday, and we were all collectively referred to as "Anarchists". We need to stop pushing our favorite flavor of truthism and realize that we are all truthists TOGETHER. I go to all of the various truthism sites from this one to Alex Jones to many others and they are ALL filled with NWO trolls trying to keep us all separated.

Let's not be fools.
UNITED TRUTHISM NOW!

Archangel

[marpat]

James777. Answer me this. You cut people up for believeing some evil force, said to be reptilian, is controlling the planet but then you say that Satan is the real enemy. Are they different? all I see is one set of beliefs using different descriptions of possibly the same negative force to try and prove that a particular set of beliefs is superior.

If you are so convinced christian belief has the answer then sell it to me. I don't believe that christ would be a world saviour anyway because there is a part in the bible where a woman asks for help and he initially refuses and states that he has come for the salvation of Israel, which sounds a bit limited.

If Mary had human parents then she was born a sinner so her offspring would also be, would they not, having a human mother.

The biggest thing for me would be that somebody appears 2000 years ago, does a few speeches then is killed and then everobody and after that is expected to believe or risk going to hell. And what about the violence, murder and torture that christianity has forced upon the world. They speak of love and tolerance but have butchered their way through history. There is so much that can be put against the whole christian point of view that it would fill volumes.

[lookfar]

Hi marpat & welcome to the forum

Can I just point out that the person you are reponding to (James777) is no longer a member of this forum, so will not be able to respond to you.

Anyway, hope you enjoy it here...:D

[esowteric]

O.K. Let's end this shit right now. For those of yous who believe in shape-shifting reptilians keep on believing in them. For those of yous who don't believe in them keep on not believing in them. Because you must realize that no matter what anybody says, what anybody shows you. No One is gonna believe in something or change their beliefs in something if they dont want to. Beliefs are also in the eyes of the beholder.

From a transcript of 'One Pair of Eyes: Dreamwalkers' presented by Idries Shah, 19th Dec 1970, BBC Television.

[A crowd of commuters are coming toward the camera, walking as if in a dream.]

SHAH NARRATING: There is an old saying: 'Man is asleep. Must he die before he wakes up?' I want to show you some examples of the things I feel keep us all dreamwalking.

[Shah is behind a desk in a study. In front of him is a typewriter]

SHAH: We all think of ourselves as logical people: people who are capable of changing our minds, for instance, if we get superior information, more information which tells us that our former beliefs or prejudices were untrue.

Doctor Ward Edwards of the University of Michigan Engineering Psychology Laboratory has disproved this in a most alarming manner. He has shown that 1/3 of people are not able to change their minds once they have made them up on the basis of inaccurate information, even if accurate information is subsequently given to them.

... ... ....

WILLIAM SERGEANT [speaking to Shah on settee]: The people who can be got at are the normal people.

SHAH: Yes, yes.

SERGEANT: You are normal because you do accept an awful lot of -???- of the people amongst which you live.

NARRATION: Doctor William Sergeant is Head of Psychological Medicine at St Thomas' Hospital. He is well known for his special study of conditioning and unconscious brainwashing.

SERGEANT: I have no doubt at all that suppose Hitler had conquered England and Hitler had then run all the public schools and all the secondary education that perhaps 70% of the new generation in England could have been brought up with Hitlerite viewpoints.

But although the normal people are get-at-able there are always in the population a group of people who are either mad, near-mad or what we call obsessive who can't be got at by these techniques ... ... ....

http://www.sarmouni.dyndns.org/writing/OnePairOfEyes.pdf
(server online most UK daylight hours and evenings)

Regards,

[marpat]

Hi marpat & welcome to the forum

Can I just point out that the person you are reponding to (James777) is no longer a member of this forum, so will not be able to respond to you.

Anyway, hope you enjoy it here...:D


I realised after I submitted it!!!! blush time

[lottie]

I realised after I submitted it!!!! blush time

no worries....:D

[alexph]

Well written Dragonfly excellent post. :)

you don´t have to believe in lizards or reptiles. but could you explain to me, how you can know for sure, that such things do not exsist? are you aware of how vast our universe is, and that we are still on the brink of learning about this universe. i am thinking of other dimensions too, and who knows which beings might occupy these realms. all i am asking from you, is to do your own research, and keep an open mind too.

i would say that there is credible evidence, that this realm has had visitors from other solar systems, in times past. i base this on the largest mysteries that mankind still hasn´t solved. the building of the pyramids? the ancient mayan culture, with streets of gold and a very advanced astronomy? all these questions, are still driving men to these places, in search for answers. i recall watching a programme from german television, back in 1997, and they tried re-building the pyramids, and did so in so many ways. and they finally gave up, and left the conclusion to be; "we do not have the knowledge needed to reconstruct these ancient monuments"; and i am not saying that aliens built them, but if some people little more than 10 years ago, with all the advanced technology avaliable, couldn´t re-build a pyramid; it leaves me to wonder what are we missing out on!?

it is a common claim that dinosaurs lived way before the first man stepped the earth, then howcome this myth is being put to silence, by evidence that a human footprint has been found in the print as one of a dinosaur? is it not true that as we progress in knowlegde and understanding, ceratin things which we believed in before, are put to silence. yes, today many laugh at the notion that life outside our realm, has ever made contact and interacted with us, however it seems to me, that evidence is coming forth and being found, that we are not the only ones, in this vast universe. it is therefore very likely, that it is not so insane, to claim other lifeforms are found, wen thinking of the vastness of our universe etc.

the first sailors whom reported about sightings of giant squids, they were also rediculed. somethings are very hard to believe indeed, but if everything else fails, then the remaining must be the closest to the true.

love & peaceful thoughts; from Dragonfly :)

[alexph]

Dragonfly, if I may can I use some of your posting on another forum mixed with my own words, replying to someone who is dismissing the reptilian thing and claims David Icke is fear-mongering without doing any research themselves. Thanks.

[dmessick]

There is a crap load of evidence to support the existance of reptilians. Ancient and new. Besides, for the 'christians' out there who don't know this, the satan character wasn't originally a snake but a up right walking talking winged reptilian creature. It's amazing how one little change to a text can rework a whole religion.

[danster82]

I agree with you james but you say people are looking for a scapegoat and then say satans my scapegoat..

Its true we have total control over this planet and its just our ignorance which stops us excersising that control.

Like God said ive created you in my image now take dominion over the earth and multiply your talents.