An honest question, please take seriously

[biblegirl]

I am curious to see how people here view the following phenomenon. This is not meant to start debate, convert, whatever, just a serious inquiry about a real thing:

I have had one personal experience with this as well as heard many first hand accounts by close friends or relatives that I trust. It involves being attacked by some sort of evil entity, paralysis, sudden evil darkness, or other form of menacing oppression, which instantly departs when the victim utters the name "Jesus". This is not a joke. I seriously want to know what the minds on this forum might offer as an explanation. Frequencies? Energies? Positive thinking? Feel free to share, especially if you have witnessed this too. Thanks.

[eternal_spirit]

Sort of related. Exorcists cast out demons with the power of Christ/Jesus, this could be one of the reasons why Satanists hate/curse Christ/Christians with their black masses and also attack and hate Christians/christ in many other ways.

The demons don't wan't to be cast out by Christ they fear him so do the people who are possessed by these demons because the demons have control of the person's mind and actions.

Part of the Illuminati mind control is based on Gods/demons this is part of the programming in some instances according to some of the people who de-programme victims.

[element]

Actually most people don't criticise christianity because of Jesus' teachings, but for different reasons.

I've had experienced this aswell with paralysis. Praying does help in such situations.
Is it real, or is it your own positive energy changing it, that's another question. Do what makes you peaceful and secure.

[dedicate]

Words have power. I think that calling out this name does bring Jesus help.

What do you think of this: Sometimes when i want to expell demons, I shout: SHIVA SHIVA SHIVA!! ?

[biblegirl]

Does it work when you say that? That's another question we can tie into this thread, to anyone else who experiences evil attacks: how do you get them to go away? Will waiting for long enough eventually make them go away? Whose in control, us or them?

[devotional soul]

I've encountered people who refuse to say the name Christina because it has Christ in it.

Just think how a high pitched frequency can brake glass. Sound vibrations do change energy on subtle and material levels.

This is why people say we must chant the holy names of God. The power of God is in those names and demons can't deal with that. And backed up with faith and sincere prayer, it can be even more powerful.

[particlezen]

i would say that the power to repel negative entities/thought forms is something we all possess.

various cultures and religions believe in these spiritual atttacks, and all invoke protection using names/words specific to their idealogy.

invoking the name of jesus is no different to a shaman using spitting, icaros and hand passes - they result in the same thing.

therefore, it is faith in our own power, our own divinity, that makes this possible, rather than the particular deity we invoke.

[pilgrim]

Saying "Hare Krishna" works the same for me. :)

[daytimetwilight]

Perhaps it would work with any name of someone/something that is benevolent and good. :)

[dedicate]

Yes, Shiva Shiva Shiva, works for me on my personal demons and ignorances. I don't know if it works when used to help others, but I suppose it would.

One can call upon Arch Angel Michael also. He is the Defender of all innocence and Justice. There are stories of people in war zones who have come out unharmed after invoking his protection. -- I believe it is proper to say his name to the East/West/North and South for full protection, thus saying his name 4 times.

[tinmenace]

I am curious to see how people here view the following phenomenon. This is not meant to start debate, convert, whatever, just a serious inquiry about a real thing:

I have had one personal experience with this as well as heard many first hand accounts by close friends or relatives that I trust. It involves being attacked by some sort of evil entity, paralysis, sudden evil darkness, or other form of menacing oppression, which instantly departs when the victim utters the name "Jesus". This is not a joke. I seriously want to know what the minds on this forum might offer as an explanation. Frequencies? Energies? Positive thinking? Feel free to share, especially if you have witnessed this too. Thanks.

Hi there :)

Since you've come to the David Icke forum looking for answers, I thought I'd quote from one of David's newsletters:


...And the act of worship is the act of connecting energetically with that which you worship. Once that connection is made and the permission to 'take you' and control you is given you become a direct energy source for whatever you have vibrationally locked yourself into.

So what is that with regard to Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, the New Age and all the rest? It is the same other-dimensional entities - the energy suckers and vampires.

As I outlined last week, the major religions, and so many other religions, sects and cults, originated in the ancient civilisations that we know as Sumer/Babylon (now Iraq), Egypt, the Indus Valley and China, among other places.

It is no surprise, therefore, that all of them are associated with the worship of the 'serpent gods'. You find the same in Africa, the Americas and elsewhere. These 'serpent gods' later went under many different aliases - the gods and deities of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, the New Age, and all the rest.

So when you worship 'Jesus', 'Allah', 'Jehovah', 'Yahweh', 'Krishna', 'Kali', 'Sananda' or some 'Ascended Master', you are giving your mind and energy to the same source - the 'serpent gods' and others.

Newsletters (http://www.davidicke.com/amember/signup.php)



So basically, you're giving these entities permission to use you as their personal playground. If you're experiencing psychic attacks from dark entities, I'd say that you're energetically sympathetic to them, because if you weren't they wouldn't even be able to reach you. I'd reconsider whom I'm worshiping, if I were you. :)

[jojo]

I wonder if uttering the name "jesus" works for the choir boys when their priest has hold of them?

[w1nstonsm1th84]

I wonder if uttering the name "jesus" works for the choir boys when their priest has hold of them?

That's a bit sick! :eek:

[jojo]

That's a bit sick! :eek:
so are the priests!

[biblegirl]

Very interesting read, tinmenace. I have a question about what you said with being energetically sympathetic: would that mean that a person who worships no one doesn't have problems with these beings? Sorry, that sentence is a double negative. But do you see what I'm saying?

[w1nstonsm1th84]

so are the priests!

I agree, many are... :mad: but we shouldn't make fun of the poor boys who are abused by them.
I know you're just having a laugh, your humour seems to be a lot like mine... but there's a time and a place madam!

Now think on missus... or it's knee time! :-/

[tinmenace]

Very interesting read, tinmenace. I have a question about what you said with being energetically sympathetic: would that mean that a person who worships no one doesn't have problems with these beings? Sorry, that sentence is a double negative. But do you see what I'm saying?

The very act of "worshiping" is what opens you up to them. If you don't believe in them, they don't exist in your reality, and therefor cannot reach you.

[jojo]

I agree, many are... :mad: but we shouldn't make fun of the poor boys who are abused by them.
I know you're just having a laugh, your humour seems to be a lot like mine... but there's a time and a place madam!

Now think on missus... or it's knee time! :-/
it wasnt meant to be making fun of abused boys. just making a serious point about the question at the begining of this thread.

Will jesus save you in times of evil if you utter his name?
that was my point.

[tinmenace]

it wasnt meant to be making fun of abused boys. just making a serious point about the question at the begining of this thread.

Will jesus save you in times of evil if you utter his name?
that was my point.

I think that's a fair argument.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

it wasnt meant to be making fun of abused boys. just making a serious point about the question at the begining of this thread.

Will jesus save you in times of evil if you utter his name?
that was my point.

I see... better that you've clarified it now, as I'm sure others might have misinterpreted what you wrote too. :)

I'm just used to you being silly on here! :p

[eternal_spirit]

I wonder if uttering the name "jesus" works for the choir boys when their priest has hold of them?

Now you've brought it up. And I'm not making excuse here just putting out some facts and figures, which probably not many know about.

Abuse some say is an entry to allow demonic possession :(

Considering there's millions of priests a very small percentage abuse. If you did a percentage of say a group of the same number in the general population it would probably be a much higher percentage.

If you look at the age of consent in some countries such as Africa and India they didn't even have a legal age of consent until recent times and I'm almost certain there still is some places were there is no age of consent, what's considered pedophilia in some countries is not in others.

The Ancient Greeks (were Baphomet/Lucifer and many of the Demons and pagan Gods/Godesses still worshiped Today all around the Planet) came from it was considered normal for grown men to have sex with boys.

The Bible does not promote pedophilia

But the Jewish Babylonian Talmud does

Quote from Talmud

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

read more here
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10703

[darketernal]

Hi there :)

Since you've come to the David Icke forum looking for answers, I thought I'd quote from one of David's newsletters:



So basically, you're giving these entities permission to use you as their personal playground. If you're experiencing psychic attacks from dark entities, I'd say that you're energetically sympathetic to them, because if you weren't they wouldn't even be able to reach you. I'd reconsider whom I'm worshiping, if I were you. :)










Nice quote. Icke is starting to sound like me now. :D

Basically I agree with what was quoted there and is more less my take on religions in general.

[daytimetwilight]

Nice quote. Icke is starting to sound like me now. :D

Basically I agree with what was quoted there and is more less my take on religions in general.

:)

[biblegirl]

Obviously those priests are evil, but I am referring to how to save yourself from interdimensional beings.

Also the post with the Talmud quotes is quite disturbing :(.

[resistance]

I wonder if uttering the name "jesus" works for the choir boys when their priest has hold of them?

Class:D if a bad spirit did try it on, i suspect that yelling fuck off to it would work just as well as anything else.

[mariag]

I am curious to see how people here view the following phenomenon. This is not meant to start debate, convert, whatever, just a serious inquiry about a real thing:

I have had one personal experience with this as well as heard many first hand accounts by close friends or relatives that I trust. It involves being attacked by some sort of evil entity, paralysis, sudden evil darkness, or other form of menacing oppression, which instantly departs when the victim utters the name "Jesus". This is not a joke. I seriously want to know what the minds on this forum might offer as an explanation. Frequencies? Energies? Positive thinking? Feel free to share, especially if you have witnessed this too. Thanks.

Hello Bible Girl!
This answer is probably going to sound odd. I have had many experiences with the spiritual world and I am also a believer of the anunnaki and other "angel creatures" such as what humans call " Aliens".

The name Jesus is comforting beacuse it is attached to positive energy due to the story about a special boy who lived on earth ( The Bible say so ;) ) and gave love and died for humanity .
That is probably why these persons experience this phenomenon feel that "Jesus" take away the "Evil" spirit. I do not beleive that Spirits are either evil nor good , I think they are beyond that state. They are either born like that or has gain personal awakening throuhg infinity and love and therefore they have no use for those elements . Evil and Good belongs in the first levels of conciousness , once you get higher up , lets say the fifth dimension or more you are no longer part of humanity or other speices. You are a spiritual creature living in infinity and your goal is to give an teach about Love.

[zen_fox]

Intention. The same stories are true of the word Buddha or Mohammed. Words are empty, meaningless vessels of intention.