Megalithic sites, please share your favorite..

[phildee3]

No it's definitely Me and Phildee



http://hubpages.com/hub/Grammar_Mishaps__I_versus_Me



What the various churchbuilders and victorians did on the island seems just as relevant to guessing what went on there as the much earlier stuff imo.



Oh yes. Biltcliffe makes that quite clear.
But did they do it consciously?

I have a hypothesis that these geometric patterns in the placement of sacred monuments (both historic and prehistoric) are not the result of sophisticated engineering but of the unconscious conforming to the sacred geometric patterns which exist in the etheric.
You could say that "higher forces" were in control of site selection.

Although this notion does not seem to have occurred to Biltcliffe (or anyone else, to my knowledge) this book is the best I've seen, so far, that might support it.

[jojo]

I visited long meg at midwinter and you would be suprised how many people were they gahtered around the main stone.There were even a couple of coppers there for some reason

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af56/93marpat/LongMegsunset4.jpg

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af56/93marpat/longmeg.jpg

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af56/93marpat/MoonrisingoverLongMeg.jpg

wow marpat, that circle looks a good'yun. right, thats it, im going in the spring :) can you recomend any others in the area?

do you know of the circle where the m6 spilts in two over shap? you can only see it traveling southbound though. i always look at that one. do you know what its called?

[jojo]

There are?? :confused:

Not to my understanding!

The spirit realm exists as a "parallel reality" which has no bearing on physical space.

The only correlation is that in physical space there are certain portals through which we may gain access, but access to a realm which is in everything, around everything and is everywhere!

well said, this is what i feel too.

[darkman]

Originally Posted by marpat View Post
I visited long meg at midwinter and you would be suprised how many people were they gahtered around the main stone.There were even a couple of coppers there for some reason

i have always found this at soltice times why the police turn up , to create a negative energy in a posative circle may be , well seems your all into the stone circles i would love to visit more and may be meet up with a few of you i off down to avebury this soltice as i feel stone henge has lost its magic now , and may visit others while im down there

[jojo]

Originally Posted by marpat View Post
I visited long meg at midwinter and you would be suprised how many people were they gahtered around the main stone.There were even a couple of coppers there for some reason

i have always found this at soltice times why the police turn up , to create a negative energy in a posative circle may be , well seems your all into the stone circles i would love to visit more and may be meet up with a few of you i off down to avebury this soltice as i feel stone henge has lost its magic now , and may visit others while im down there

well, you couldnt check if sweatybetty is doing her knee bends while your down there :D lol

[curly]

http://hubpages.com/hub/Grammar_Mishaps__I_versus_Me



Oh yes. Biltcliffe makes that quite clear.
But did they do it consciously?

I have a hypothesis that these geometric patterns in the placement of sacred monuments (both historic and prehistoric) are not the result of sophisticated engineering but of the unconscious conforming to the sacred geometric patterns which exist in the etheric.
You could say that "higher forces" were in control of site selection.

Although this notion does not seem to have occurred to Biltcliffe (or anyone else, to my knowledge) this book is the best I've seen, so far, that might support it.

Very interesting,so your saying these people were possibly unaware of the preatty patterns they were forming,:eek:so simple it's brilliant.A bit of divine inspiration on your part as well,seriously that makes so much sense and if your'e right such a relief as that geometry does my head in:).keep up the good work.I'm off to read it again,i've got a head like a sieve,you may like to have a look at Hamish Millers stuff he dowses lots of geometric shapes at these sites and marks them out.

[curly]

http://hubpages.com/hub/Grammar_Mishaps__I_versus_Me



Oh yes. Biltcliffe makes that quite clear.
But did they do it consciously?

I have a hypothesis that these geometric patterns in the placement of sacred monuments (both historic and prehistoric) are not the result of sophisticated engineering but of the unconscious conforming to the sacred geometric patterns which exist in the etheric.
You could say that "higher forces" were in control of site selection.

Although this notion does not seem to have occurred to Biltcliffe (or anyone else, to my knowledge) this book is the best I've seen, so far, that might support it.

This geometry laid down over the sites on a map is irrelevant then obviously in the terms of the builders,as the sites are chosen not for their position in a geometric plan but the energy of the place,can't believe i never managed to seperate the two now,the place is the real thing.

[phildee3]

...the sites are chosen not for their position in a geometric plan but the energy of the place,



Exactly - but they are even unaware of that (according to the hypothesis).

Then I could be completely wrong and the whole thing is laid out according to a masonic plan! :eek: ;)

No, seriously, back to my hypothesis:
When they plan to build a church the angels intervene to make sure that the altar is placed at a strategic portal on the earth energy grid, so that the sacraments enacted there are of optimum effectiveness.

[marpat]

wow marpat, that circle looks a good'yun. right, thats it, im going in the spring :) can you recomend any others in the area?

do you know of the circle where the m6 spilts in two over shap? you can only see it traveling southbound though. i always look at that one. do you know what its called?

Mayburgh henge is quite a large site and is not far from Penrith.

Here is a link to some sites:

http://www.visitcumbria.com/stonecir.htm

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?mapref=NY567133


I know the broken circle on the M6 but cant recall the name of it. There are loads in the area which are partially destroyed

[phildee3]

I know the broken circle on the M6 but cant recall the name of it.



Gunnerkeld - the spring of Gunnarr.

Gunnarr is a Norse god of war - the husband of Brynhild, the most beautiful of the Valkyries.
Brynhildr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is two concentric circles, fairly common in these parts.

[lookfar]

Originally Posted by marpat View Post
I visited long meg at midwinter and you would be suprised how many people were they gahtered around the main stone.There were even a couple of coppers there for some reason

i have always found this at soltice times why the police turn up , to create a negative energy in a posative circle may be , well seems your all into the stone circles i would love to visit more and may be meet up with a few of you i off down to avebury this soltice as i feel stone henge has lost its magic now , and may visit others while im down there

I was thinking of maybe heading upto Avebury for the solstice so if you're there, I look forward to meeting you:)

[lookfar]

Well i suppose we can wait a bit for you to catch up:rolleyes:,Me and Phildee can talk about Z.S Livingstone,he sounded quite positive about him don't you think.:D

Haha thanks, much appreciated:) I'm a bit gutted that it hasn't arrived yet as I want to get started on it.

Lol, I don't think "positive" is the word I'd use but I thought the info was interesting nonetheless;)

[phildee3]

Me and Phildee can talk about Z.S Livingstone,



Me don't want to, - me think he's not worth the attention.
Me would rather talk about Biltcliffe's book.

[curly]

Exactly - but they are even unaware of that (according to the hypothesis).

Then I could be completely wrong and the whole thing is laid out according to a masonic plan! :eek: ;)

No, seriously, back to my hypothesis:
When they plan to build a church the angels intervene to make sure that the altar is placed at a strategic portal on the earth energy grid, so that the sacraments enacted there are of optimum effectiveness.

I'd love to know why the prison and the young offenders institution are in the mix,maybe they thought their souls would be cleansed or the victorians wanted to pour all that misery into something nefarious,i went to Lydford castle in Devon next to Lydford gorge,the castle was a prison in medievil times and is right on an energy line i don't know whether it was an ancient sacred site,Hamish miller said it was still a most dark and depressing place even now.When i went the sun was shining there was no roof and it was still miserable inside.

[curly]

Exactly - but they are even unaware of that (according to the hypothesis).

Then I could be completely wrong and the whole thing is laid out according to a masonic plan! :eek: ;)

No, seriously, back to my hypothesis:
When they plan to build a church the angels intervene to make sure that the altar is placed at a strategic portal on the earth energy grid, so that the sacraments enacted there are of optimum effectiveness.

Hamish miller always found a crossing of male and female energy lines exactly where the alter was at most of the major sacred sites he visited.And these were the only places they crossed,Makes me wonder whether some of it or all of it has been under the influence of the bad guys whoever they are.

[phildee3]

I'd love to know why the prison and the young offenders institution are in the mix,maybe they thought their souls would be cleansed or the victorians wanted to pour all that misery into something nefarious,i went to Lydford castle in Devon next to Lydford gorge,the castle was a prison in medievil times and is right on an energy line i don't know whether it was an ancient sacred site,Hamish miller said it was still a most dark and depressing place even now.When i went the sun was shining there was no roof and it was still miserable inside.



Some of the most enlightened people on the planet are imprisoned.
Besides, wouldn't it be a compassionate thing for the angels to have them housed where the otherworld is more easily accessible?

[curly]

Me don't want to, - me think he's not worth the attention.
Me would rather talk about Biltcliffe's book.

Me too:p

[phildee3]

Hamish miller always found a crossing of male and female energy lines exactly where the alter was at most of the major sacred sites he visited.And these were the only places they crossed,Makes me wonder whether some of it or all of it has been under the influence of the bad guys whoever they are.



I don't see why.

Why would "bad guys" have altars built at energy-line crossing points?

[phildee3]

Me too



I think you mean "I too."

[curly]

Some of the most enlightened people on the planet are imprisoned.
Besides, wouldn't it be a compassionate thing for the angels to have them housed where the otherworld is more easily accessible?

yes probably,depends how it effects them i suppose,i'm obviously familiar with the word angels but it doesn't mean anything to me other than nice people with wings:o.

[curly]

I don't see why.

Why would "bad guys" have altars built at energy-line crossing points?

For bad stuff,they might not have built it but they could certainly have used it,just thinking about the sacrifice that was mentioned in the local folktales.

[curly]

I think you mean "I too."

Methinks The queen can keep her teutonic tosspottery,Her english is not for I.:)

[phildee3]

yes probably,depends how it effects them i suppose,i'm obviously familiar with the word angels but it doesn't mean anything to me other than nice people with wings:o.



Read message 501 again, where I define my hypothesis.
"Angels" is just a shorthand for "higher forces" which is, itself, shorthand for "agents of the collective conciousness (or "God," if you like) which has us unconsciously conforming to geometric patterns that exist a priori in the etheric."

I don't mind what you call them.
How about thptb (the higher powers that be)?

[phildee3]

For bad stuff,they might not have built it but they could certainly have used it,just thinking about the sacrifice that was mentioned in the local folktales.



I missed that.
Do you have a page number?

[phildee3]

Methinks The queen can keep her teutonic tosspottery,Her english is not for I.:)



Lizzie ain't got nothing to do with it.
It's just basic English grammar.

I talk...
Phil and I talk.

[phildee3]

For bad stuff,they might not have built it but they could certainly have used it,just thinking about the sacrifice that was mentioned in the local folktales.



Oh, you're talking about the rumours that the Druids performed blood sacrifices on the megaliths.
Well, first of all, that was probably made up/exaggerated by the Roman Church to demonise druidism and,
secondly, of the dozens of known megalithic sites on the island, not one is on the vesica or the winter solstice ley (correct me if I'm wrong) formed by the position of the church altars.

[curly]

Read message 501 again, where I define my hypothesis.
"Angels" is just a shorthand for "higher forces" which is, itself, shorthand for "agents of the collective conciousness (or "God," if you like) which has us unconsciously conforming to geometric patterns that exist a priori in the etheric."

I don't mind what you call them.
How about thptb (the higher powers that be)?

I thought that's what you meant,Hamish calls them the Management which i considered very appropriate,thptb will do nicely

[curly]

I missed that.
Do you have a page number?

There you go Mr Magoo 13,52,83,117,142,Elizabeth Pearce said many locals avoided the standing stones based on stories that the druids performed human sacrifice there.Folklore is one thing i allways take notice of.

[phildee3]

There you go Mr Magoo 13,52,83,117,142,Elizabeth Pearce said many locals avoided the standing stones based on stories that the druids performed human sacrifice there.Folklore is one thing i allways take notice of.



Yeh, I already found those pages (under sacrifice" in the index).
Post no. 526 is the result.

There are no standing stones in the formations in question.

[phildee3]

I thought that's what you meant,Hamish calls them the Management which i considered very appropriate,thptb will do nicely



Cool!

(Can I portray them as having wings? ;))

[curly]

Oh, you're talking about the rumours that the Druids performed blood sacrifices on the megaliths.
Well, first of all, that was probably made up/exaggerated by the Roman Church to demonise druidism and,
secondly, of the dozens of known megalithic sites on the island, not one is on the vesica or the winter solstice ley (correct me if I'm wrong) formed by the position of the church altars.


But how many of the newer church alters are built over old ones,i'll have to check.What's so important about the winter solstice and sacrifice?

[curly]

Lizzie ain't got nothing to do with it.
It's just basic English grammar.

I talk...
Phil and I talk.

Havn't you heard it's the queens English,why not she owns virtually everything else.Yes and it should stay in grammer school.

I talk
Me and Phil talk
there you go, no need for a translator.

[phildee3]

But how many of the newer church alters are built over old ones,i'll have to check.



I think he found none, didn't he?



What's so important about the winter solstice and sacrifice?



Well, theoretically, it's the death and rebirth of the sun, is it not?
So the sacrifice of a bull could be seen as an offering to the sun god for a bountiful year ahead (to a culture with a cattle-centred economy like the Celts).

I think the pre-Christian Druids did this but surely they would have done it in their most sacred places - their groves.
To use the megaliths for this purpose sounds bizarre to me and I think this a relatively late fabrication propogated by the Roman church who would have the druids demonised. It was in intensely superstitious, Roman-controlled Ireland where dolmens were first called "Druid Altars."

[phildee3]

Havn't you heard it's the queens English,



No it's not - it's English.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Grammar_Mishaps__I_versus_Me



Me and Phil talk



...is not English.

Look, - you conform to most of the rules of grammar. If you didn't, our discussions would be impossible, so why violate just one or two?

Communication is vital to our solidarity. Accepting the violation of the rules of language is the beginning of illiteracy and confusion in society - so that the elite can control us easier.

It's a conspiracy - resist it, I say!


(since we're off-topic here, waddya say we agree to disagree and drop it?)

[curly]

No it's not - it's English.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Grammar_Mishaps__I_versus_Me



...is not English.

Look, - you conform to most of the rules of grammar. If you didn't, our discussions would be impossible, so why violate just one or two?

Communication is vital to our solidarity. Accepting the violation of the rules of language is the beginning of illiteracy and confusion in society - so that the elite can control us easier.

It's a conspiracy - resist it, I say!


(since we're off-topic here, waddya say we agree to disagree and drop it?)

I didn't come here for a grammar lesson,but thanks for the pointers,i think it will be a long long long long time before lot's of me and you's can't understand each other because of something as irrelevant as grammer.
subject dropped

[phildee3]

I didn't come here for a grammar lesson,but thanks for the pointers,i think it will be a long long long long time before lot's of me and you's can't understand each other because of something as irrelevant as grammer.



Misunderstanding creeps in, believe me.

We're discussing literature.

Only the best dish can be prepared by using just the right, authentic ingredients.

Same with literary criticism.

over and out.

[curly]

Misunderstanding creeps in, believe me.

We're discussing literature.

Only the best dish can be prepared by using just the right, authentic ingredients.

Same with literary criticism.

over and out.

But we're only having a fry up so unclench your buttocks for 5 minutes

[curly]

I think he found none, didn't he?



Well, theoretically, it's the death and rebirth of the sun, is it not?
So the sacrifice of a bull could be seen as an offering to the sun god for a bountiful year ahead (to a culture with a cattle-centred economy like the Celts).

I think the pre-Christian Druids did this but surely they would have done it in their most sacred places - their groves.
To use the megaliths for this purpose sounds bizarre to me and I think this a relatively late fabrication propogated by the Roman church who would have the druids demonised. It was in intensely superstitious, Roman-controlled Ireland where dolmens were first called "Druid Altars."

Maybe their most sacred places the groves would be the last place they would do this?.Do you think sacrifices could be made to different gods not just the sun god for whatever reason.Dolmens=Druid Alters=LOL

[phildee3]

we're only having a fry up



Not me.
"Megalithic Sites" is a quality topic, imo.

[phildee3]

Maybe their most sacred places the groves would be the last place they would do this?



Makes no sense to me.
All cults I know of perform their most sacred rites in their most sacred temples.



Do you think sacrifices could be made to different gods not just the sun god for whatever reason.



Possibly. Lesser sacraments?? Examples??



Dolmens=Druid Alters=LOL



Agreed ('cept it's altars ;))

But you seem to contradict yourself.
Do you think that the Druids ued megaliths for sacrifices, or not?

[curly]

Agreed ('cept it's altars )

I disagree Alter will do fine for me as i believe that it is used to alter the forces harnessed by it's position,You just have to see through the spelling,it makes no sense your way.Alter is the original imo.

[curly]

Do you think that the Druids ued megaliths for sacrifices, or not?

i'm not sure what ued means,i'll take it as used and say that possibly they did but who knows,maybe that's why they had a little divine inspiration in the shape of an earthquake.There you go have some of that if your going to mess about with sacrifices you naughty boys.

[curly]

Ritual Sacrifice

That the Aztecs and Maya conducted human sacrifice is rooted in an ancient myth concerning the very creation of the world, and of its setting into motion. An account of the myth essentially held that in a far off age when the world was first formed, a council of gods was assembled about a sacred fire. And that these gods sacrificed themselves by throwing themselves into the flames, which led to the sun making its first appearance on the horizon and being set into motion. Over the course of time following the successive transmission of this ancient myth, the Aztecs and the Maya began to believe at some point that such sacrifices were periodically necessary in order to actually maintain celestial motion. And to this end, they sought to recreate the original sacrifice of the gods with a ritual ceremony of their own.

Lasting for a total of five days during the end of each sheaf period, the whole of the populace in the surrounding villages of the Mayan-Aztec Empire would partake in a ritual extinguishing of all of the fires throughout the community. They would then take to the hills at the culmination of the ceremony at midnight, when the critical observation of the Earth conjuncting the Pleiades was to occur. At the moment of the alignment the Indian priests would stab the warrior to death and cut out his still beating heart. They would then start a new fire within his chest cavity and bathe his heart within the flames. If at the precise moment of the sacrifice the Pleiades failed to cross over the meridian at midnight then the Indians knew that the world would end as the heavens had ceased to move, and their sacrifice had not been sufficient. If however the Pleiades continued on its course then this was taken to be a sign that the sacrifice had been sufficient and that the world would last at the very least for another 52 years, at which time yet another sacrifice would of course have to be made.:eek:

I can't find the link at the moment to another piece about sacrifices to venus and venus inspired wars in South America

[curly]

Sorry jojo,we're not posting any pictures if you want us to bugger off just say so,We could start our own thread and call it Me and Phildees Megerlifick Madness.

[jojo]

Sorry jojo,we're not posting any pictures if you want us to bugger off just say so,We could start our own thread and call it Me and Phildees Megerlifick Madness.

:D, i dont mind, im sure sooner or later someone will come and post a pic or 2 about megaliths.

i just started the thread.... where it goes, nobody knows.... :D

[phildee3]

Alter will do fine for me as i believe that it is used to alter the forces harnessed by it's position,



Ah, but that's just your belief.
There is no consensus as to whether the dolmens/standing stones create earth-energy effects or simply mark/tap into already existing power points.

[phildee3]

i dont mind, im sure sooner or later someone will come and post a pic or 2 about megaliths.



Here's one, courtesy of the French Roman Catholics c.1850:
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/204641/1/Human-Sacrifice-By-A-Gaulish-Druid,-From-Histoire-De-France-By-L.P.-Anquetil,-1851.jpg

although this is a more accurate depiction of who were the real killers, according to National Geographic:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGC/StaticFiles/Images/Show/40xx/407x/4073_Druid_Sacrifice-2_04700300.JPG

"Julius Caesar provided most of what is known about the Druids from his interactions with them."
Read more: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/expedition-week/4073/facts#ixzz0XUnGO9Lb

[phildee3]

...maybe that's why they had a little divine inspiration in the shape of an earthquake.There you go have some of that if your going to mess about with sacrifices you naughty boys.



If you're talking about the Portland earthquake, that was in 1099,
at least 700 years after Rome had them all wiped out.

Which brings me to a major discrepancy in the book:
If the eastern one-third of the island was obliterated in 1099 (see p.28), how did the Vikings manage to land at Church Ope Cove in 787 (p.24)??! :eek:

[curly]

If you're talking about the Portland earthquake, that was in 1099,
at least 700 years after Rome had them all wiped out.

Which brings me to a major discrepancy in the book:
If the eastern one-third of the island was obliterated in 1099 (see p.28), how did the Vikings manage to land at Church Ope Cove in 787 (p.24)??! :eek:

I don't believe everyone was wiped out,can't prove that but there you go.It says the south-east of the island was destroyed and the cove is about half way up the island imo so it's possible all the major devastation took place just south of there,a bit fell off just below there if you like.

[phildee3]

I don't believe everyone was wiped out,can't prove that but there you go.



You think that there were Druids on the island, practicing blood sacrifices on megaliths, in 1099?? :eek:

The Vatican will love you, but you'll never get a job at the National Geographic!



It says the south-east of the island was destroyed and the cove is about half way up the island imo so it's possible all the major devastation took place just south of there,a bit fell off just below there if you like.



Don't know where you got that, but on p.24 Biltcliffe says that St Andrew's was at the centre of the island before the "landslip."

[curly]

You think that there were Druids on the island, practicing blood sacrifices on megaliths, in 1099?? :eek:

The Vatican will love you, but you'll never get a job at the National Geographic!

Maybe they were doing it a lot later than 1099,Portland is an island don't forget,havn't you seen The Whicker Man:D,I wouldn't want a job at national geographic i've never read it.

Don't know where you got that, but on p.24 Biltcliffe says that St Andrew's was at the centre of the island before the "landslip."

P28 It just says half of Portland on the south east,but something doesn't add up as far as that date goes,maybe they tunnelled in.

[phildee3]

P28 It just says half of Portland on the south east,but something doesn't add up as far as that date goes,maybe they tunnelled in.



lol

P30:
"When the Saxons arrived on the island the circles at the Grove were much further inland, and the area around St Andrew's Church and Rufus Castle were, as legends say, at the centre of the island."

The Grove megaliths are north of Church Ope Cove so land to the northeast was lost too (probably more megaliths too, looking at the present distribution).

Maybe St Andrew's was at the head of a lagoon.

I've found Biltciffe's email addy, btw. :)

[kweli]

Holestone, county Antrim. Ireland


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/annie1pw/irishstone.jpg

[phildee3]

Holestone, county Antrim. Ireland



Do you have any more info on this?
There are quite a few of these in Ireland, with perfectly round holes.
All appear to have a definite astronomical function.

[jojo]

Holestone, county Antrim. Ireland


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i28/annie1pw/irishstone.jpg

Do you have any more info on this?
There are quite a few of these in Ireland, with perfectly round holes.
All appear to have a definite astronomical function.

hole stones fascinate me. my closest megalith is called the devils ring and finger on the staffordshire/shropshire border and its a huge hole stone with a 8ft standing stone right by it.

[kweli]

Do you have any more info on this?
There are quite a few of these in Ireland, with perfectly round holes.
All appear to have a definite astronomical function.

I got it from this site, there's some great info/ stunning photography:

http://www.irishmegaliths.org.uk/zHolestone.htm

[lightgiver]

Monoliths of Europe - YouTube


A stone row or stone alignment
is a linear arrangement of upright, parallel megalithic standing stones set at intervals along a common axis or series of axes, usually dating from the later Neolithic or Bronze Age.Rows may be individual or grouped, and three or more stones aligned can constitute a stone row. "Alignment", a French word , has been used to identify standing stones rows of long 'processional' avenue.Stone rows differ from a prehistoric avenue, in that the stones are always in a broadly straight line rather than following a more curving route. Stone rows can be few metres or several kilometres in length and made from stones that can be as tall as 2m, although 1m high stones are more common. The terminals of many rows have the largest stones and other megalithic features are sometimes sited at the ends, especially burial cairns. The stones are placed at intervals and may vary in height along the sequence, to provide a gradated appearance, though it is not known whether this was done deliberately. Stone rows were erected by the later Neolithic and Bronze Age peoples in the British Isles, parts of Scandinavia and northern France.

A hill fort
is a fortified refuge or defended settlement, located to exploit a rise in elevation for military advantage. The fortification usually follows the contours of the hill, consisting of one or more lines of earthworks, with stockades or defensive walls, and external ditches.

Burial Mounds, Barrows, Cairn
A tumulus (plural tumuli) is a mound of earth and stones raised over a grave or graves. Tumuli are also known as barrows, burial mounds, or kurgans, and can be found throughout much of the world. A tumulus composed largely or entirely of stones is usually referred to as a cairn.The method of inhumation may involve a dolmen, a cist, a mortuary enclosure, a mortuary house or a chamber tomb. Examples of barrows include Duggleby Howe and Maeshowe.Archaeologists often classify tumuli according to their location, form, and date of construction.

A Stone Circle
is an ancient monument. Such a monument is not always precisely circular and often forms an ellipse, or a setting of four stones laid on an arc of a circle. The number of stones can vary between four and 60[1] purposely erected standing stones, and often contain burial pits or chambers. A stone circle is different from a henge or isolated monolith, although each of these features is often encountered in a single location. Earlier features, such as the Goseck circle in Saxony-Anhalt, may have served similar religious/calendrical/astronomical purposes, though probably at a much earlier epoch. Stone circles usually date from the late Neolithic / early Bronze Age, that is, c.3000-1500 B.C. Archaeological evidence, coupled with information from astronomy, geology and mathematics[citation needed], suggests that the purpose of stone circles was connected with prehistoric peoples' beliefs, and their construction can be used to infer about ancient engineering, social organisation, and religion. Their precise function will always be open to debate, but a practical purpose could exist in the form of use as astronomical marker points for use in determining calendar-related event timings, and usable methodologies have been suggested.

A Henge
is a prehistoric architectural structure and is nearly circular or oval-shaped flat area over 20 metres (65 feet) in diameter that is enclosed and delimited by a boundary earthwork that usually comprises a ditch with an external bank. The earthwork permits access to the interior by one, two, or four entrances. Internal components may include portal settings, timber circles, post rings, stone circles, four-stone settings, monoliths, standing posts, pits, coves, post alignments, stone alignments, burials, central mounds, and stakeholes (English Heritage definition).

A dolmen
(also known as cromlech, anta, Hünengrab, Hunebed, quoit, and portal dolmen) is a type of single-chamber megalithic tomb, usually consisting of three or more upright stones (megaliths) supporting a large flat horizontal capstone (table). Most date from the early Neolithic period (4000 to 3000 BC). Dolmens were usually covered with earth or smaller stones to form a barrow, though in many cases that covering has weathered away, leaving only the stone "skeleton" of the burial mound intact. "Dolmen" originates from the expression taol maen, which means "stone table" in Breton, and was first used archaeologically by Théophile Corret de la Tour d'Auvergne.

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[pleasuredome]

hole stones fascinate me. my closest megalith is called the devils ring and finger on the staffordshire/shropshire border and its a huge hole stone with a 8ft standing stone right by it.

is the hole cylindrical shape or more like a cup/bowl shape?

[lookfar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFoWQWmdJkg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3OCRAfRXgE

I've wanted to go see some of the megalithic sites of Europe for quite some time now so look forward to watching those vids when I get home. Thanks for sharing LG:)

[kweli]

is the hole cylindrical shape or more like a cup/bowl shape?

You'll find some great pics that jojo put up earlier in the thread here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=454553&postcount=2

[jojo]

is the hole cylindrical shape or more like a cup/bowl shape?


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/466.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/469.jpg
(figure for scale)

this is it

[curly]

I just thought the people who like coming to this thread might like this,it's from Druid Mysteries by Philip Carr-Gomm

One of the most moving moments that can occur on our spiritual and psycholigical journey is the discovery of the inner child that exists within us - whatever our age.However careful our upbringing might have been,it seems inevitable that we first experience this inner child as hurt and rejected.Once,however,we open ourselves to it,no longer pretending or living as if it didn't exist,we find that this child within is a divine child,a radiant seed being of God/dess.Within a christian framewoek we can say that we experience the reality and the presence of the Christ-child within our hearts.The druid tradition speaks of the same mystery,but calls the child the Mabon.

In a peculiar reflection of the story of the prodigal son,it is we as adults who turn to the child to recognise him or her as the manifestation of divinity within us.And it is we as adults who come to understand that much of the negativity that we experienced and expressed came from the desperation of the wounded child who needed to be acknowledged and heard.In our struggle to "grow up" we ignored the voice that became buried deeper and deeper in our hearts.

A similar process of burial has occured on a collective level.It is said that beneath the cathederals of Saint Paul's in London and Notre Dame in Paris lie stone circles,forgotten by a culture which has denied it's roots.The consequences of this denial have made us act in a way that Thomas Berry suggests is like that of the autistic child-the child who cannot face the world,and who seems not to see or hear even though we know they can.They are emotionally isolated from their fellow creatures but are fascinated by mechanical devices.We,as a culture,are obsessed with mechanics-we no longer hear the voice of the river or the sea,we can no longer let the 'outer world flow into our beings'.

Unconciously or conciously we have despised our origins because we beleived our ancestors were savage brutish beings.In the same way we unconciously despise the child who lives in our hearts as a weak and ignorant creature.But the stone which has been rejected shall be the cornerstone of the temple:when we turn to the child and see it for who it really is,it offers us the potential to change our lives,and when we turn to our past and see it for all that it really represents,it in turn has the potential to transform our future -to give birth to the dream in our hearts.

Seen in this way, Druidry can be considered as a cultural therapy-a way of collective healing and regeneration.We have seen how the Druidic roots of our culture can be viewed in either of two ways.Our ancestors can be seen as barbarian,primitive and ignorant,living in a world'nasty,brutish and short',or they can be seen as wise,noble philosophers and mystics,versed in mathematics,engineering and astronomical skills.

In the first view of druidry,we espouse the theory of original stupidity,which sees humanity struggling from the darkness of prehistoric ignorance to the light of present-day scientific knowledge.The second view recognises that our foundations grew out of the age of light rather than the age of darkness.

The way we view our origins determines the way we relate to the world.Pelagius was a fourth century British theologian who challenged the concept of original sin.Some say he was a druid.We cannot be sure whether he was or not,but he was certainly deeply influenced by their heritage.He taught the doctrine of original blessing,insisting that a baby is born blessed and innocent rather than sinful.He was persecuted by the church and chased out of europe,dying in either Africa or the Middle-East,though some say that he might have found refuge in his last years in a monastry in Wales.

Perhaps Pelagius knew that if we beleive we are rooted in primitive ignorance and original sin,then however hard we try,we will unconciously act in ignorant and destructive ways.But the reverse also applies,and the time has now come for the return of the forgotten,the denied and the repressed.The time has come for us to acknowledge fully that our origins - our source and our basis - are divine.
Our roots are holy.

[curly]

lol

P30:
"When the Saxons arrived on the island the circles at the Grove were much further inland, and the area around St Andrew's Church and Rufus Castle were, as legends say, at the centre of the island."

The Grove megaliths are north of Church Ope Cove so land to the northeast was lost too (probably more megaliths too, looking at the present distribution).

Maybe St Andrew's was at the head of a lagoon.

I've found Biltciffe's email addy, btw. :)

geoffkirby.co.uk has lots of good pictures and info about Portland,worth a look,i noticed an interesting picture of an entrance to a cave system in one of the quarries.I've got this week off work and am going down there for a couple of days this week:D

[phildee3]

As you know, I generally don't disclose my faves as they are exceptionally ecologially and energetically sensitive,
but this one wants me to share itself with you -

I was there yesterday and it's amazing!

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/img_400/Priddy_circles_small.jpg
This is looking north. There's a fourth henge off the top of the pic. and all four form a straight line aligned with true north.

Standing at the southernmost henge, looking south, this is what you see:

http://www.aboutbritain.com/images/towns/priddy-7111.jpg
There's a ninth barrow off the right of the pic.

Beyond the horizon are dozens more.

All around are traces of the open-cast mines mines where Joseph of Arimathea got his lead. It is said that Jesus walked here.

[curly]

This is a pic of Waylands Smithy near Swindon,i noticed the fatter stones on the left of the entrance are the same shape as the stones i dowsed a subtle energy moving through at the hurlers on Bodmin moor and the more erect ones on the right resemble the ones through which a less subtle energy flows through.
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac241/curly_024/variousstuff058.jpg

[darkman]

wow thats a barrow i need to visit that weirdly enough im just reding julian cope modern atiqurian with this in it

[curly]

wow thats a barrow i need to visit that weirdly enough im just reding julian cope modern atiqurian with this in it

yes nice place,i only went once but it's pretty much my favourite site,i love the circle of trees around it and it's quite out of the way as well,bit of a bugger to find as i remember.

[phildee3]

yes nice place,i only went once but it's pretty much my favourite site,i love the circle of trees around it and it's quite out of the way as well,bit of a bugger to find as i remember.

Walk 2KM west along the ridgeway from the NT car park at Uffington.
It's signposted.

You can drive up to it if you have a disbled badge,
or even if you don't (if you want to risk a bolloking from the rangers!)

[curly]

Walk 2KM west along the ridgeway from the NT car park at Uffington.
It's signposted.

You can drive up to it if you have a disbled badge,
or even if you don't (if you want to risk a bolloking from the rangers!)

Thanks Phildee,i get lost everywhere i go:o,there's a scarey wood near there which i found (whilst lost) it was very dark and uninviting,did you ever get in touch with biltcliffe btw.

[curly]

I did park in that car park it's the one near the white horse isn't it,but i must have done 6k before i got there:D

[phildee3]

I did park in that car park it's the one near the white horse isn't it,but i must have done 6k before i got there:D



Someone must have turned the signpost around.
Go half a KM south. Turn right onto the ridgeway and go another 1.5 KM.
Signposted all the way.

[whiterain]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/466.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/469.jpg
(figure for scale)

this is it

ahahahahahaha. i was gonna say what ana amazing pic the first one was, but then the 2nd one was quit a nice surprise too. seriously though the shine of the colours are amazing

[burial]

I wish these things were in the US. :(

[phildee3]

I wish these things were in the US. :(

da-dah!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/133056665_e94b171031.jpg

One of the Hopwell mounds in Ohio.


A few more here too...
http://www.white-history.com/hwr6c.htm


If you don't look fer 'em,
y'aint gonna find 'em!

[burial]

da-dah!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/133056665_e94b171031.jpg

One of the Hopwell mounds in Ohio.


A few more here too...
http://www.white-history.com/hwr6c.htm


If you don't look fer 'em,
y'aint gonna find 'em!

Ah, cool, thank you. :)

I thought there were only things like big mounds of dirt here.

[phildee3]

I thought there were only things like big mounds of dirt here.



But you're not in the US.

[burial]

But you're not in the US.

:confused:

Yes I am...Kentucky to be exact. :)

[phildee3]

:confused:

Yes I am...Kentucky to be exact. :)

Oh sorry. You must be in Leslie Co. (or is it Lee Co.?).
You should add "for certain" to your profile to avoid the confusion! ;)

[merlincove]

hm, i've just been thinking about Stonehenge these last few days, and looking at the pictures i took when we were there.

Anybody fancy booking an evening at the stones? pm me and i'll see what i can organise :D

5068

:D

[hunter77]

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/069.jpg

just visited the mighty callanish, an amazing place. a week long island hopping mission got me and my road tripping buddies there . :)

got hundreds of photos and will post more.

the place and stones were amazing , warm to the touch even due to the western isles natural under floor heating . in the the amazing light of the evening the stones seem to come alive and carried an amazing energy:)

[hunter77]

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/114.jpg

[hunter77]

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/055.jpg

[hunter77]

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/067.jpg

[biblegirl]

great pics hunter, kinda looks like a forest of standing stones :)

[merlincove]

great pics hunter, kinda looks like a forest of standing stones :)

Aye it does that :D

But without the squirrels ;)

nice picks jp - hope you's's havin a great time up there :D

love the pic viewed along the avenue :D

I'm thinkin about headin gthere for the solstice this summer :D

[hunter77]

CHEERS GUYS, got back last night. did 1300 miles in all plus 3 ferry crossings , the last drive the on home was a 500 mile , eight hour monster.

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/064.jpg

the islands are amazing places, inhabited by friendly locals and people who , just want to be off the radar.
we stayed in some amazing places and saw some amazing things:).


http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/091.jpg

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/060.jpg

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/061.jpg

[hunter77]

ALSO VISITED THIS 2,000+ YEAR OLD IRON AGE FORT ON LEWIS.

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/110.jpg

AND SOME MORE PICS OF THE STONES

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/079.jpg

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/114-1.jpg

[metacomet]

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/055.jpg

I can't believe people just LIVE right around that!

[hunter77]

theres not many mate, the western isles only have a small population. most of the buildings are croft's( small farms) these go back many generations. most of the hebridian islands are peat bogs and mountains.:)

but i was a bit shocked that there were houses so close, but when i was told about the local history and got the feel of the place i understood it a bit more:)

[jojo]

great pics jp! it looks magical. i was suprised to see houses so close too, but just imagine the energy of living so close to a place like that! amazing! love the croft houses too, with the thatched roofs! thats the life!

[amercury]

You just went on one of my dream vacations!!
Thanks for posting the pics. It is nice to see the surrounding areas. I didn't know there was water and houses etc. so close.

I would love to live right there:)

[amercury]

Hunter, can I ask where you stayed? Did you camp?

[phildee3]

Hunter, can I ask where you stayed? Did you camp?

The best, luxury accomodation for megalith hunters/hill walkers:
http://www.x-moor.com/index.php/gossamer-dark-moss-ultralight-bivouac-tent.html

[hunter77]

Hunter, can I ask where you stayed? Did you camp?


i stayed here mate in the youth hostel part, it was ten pounds a night. the hostel itself is part of the rebuilt crofters blackhouse village. you could also camp at the bottom of the village for six pounds a night and use the hostels showers , kitchen ect.
http://www.gearrannan.com/Default.asp?Page=6

we did skye and harris as well and camped on those. all the locations were very cheap and spectacular:)

this is the blackhouse village the hostel is the second one in on the left.
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/091.jpg

this is the camping, where my mate stayed a couple of nights

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/093.jpg

you can actually pitch your tent in the ruins of the old black houses, this helps with the cold atlantic winds

[hunter77]

the nine ladies

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0844.jpg

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0843.jpg

doll tor

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0823.jpg

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0821.jpg

stone henge ( notice the skill of avoiding yank and japanese tourists)

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0797.jpg

and avebury including tolkiens rooty trees

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0795.jpg

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0790.jpg



http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0788.jpg

silbury hill

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0784.jpg



andle stone

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac148/jpwhitmore77/DSCF0804.jpg

[truthlovelife]

In sw england (Avon) there are stone circles and a cove next to a medieval pub called the Driud inn. What is unusual is that the stones are poorly sign posted and even locals are not aware these stones exist. I dont know if they are on a leyline but it is close to camelot, glastonbury, bath area.

http://www.stone-circles.org.uk/stone/stantondrew.htm

[meli]

Look at the thread in the symbolism forum

The key of Mystery Rennes le Chateau
2 UNKNOWN POUSSIN'S PAINTINGS DISCOVERED :THE KEY OF RENNES LE CHATEAU'S MYSTERY AND SHOUGBOROUGH :
2 family's paintings, 2 unknown and coded Poussin's paintings ,are the key of this mystery .. and Poussin's secret


There has been a reportage about my discoverings on the biggest french TV .

It's an incredible story with this paintings. Paintings come from my ancestor a priest Henri Gasc priest near Rennes le chateau.In these paintings there are HIDDEN PICTURES, symbols ,codes,SACRED GEOMETRY , which give the Poussin's secret . It's THIS SECRET which is the Rennes le chateau mystery

I explain all my story with my discoverings on my site,soon in english . In the site you can see all details about these paintings .There are much pictures ..There is a new interview on THE LINK PAGE AT ARQA with proofs that these paintings are the key of this mystery..

www.lesecretdepoussin.com/liens.php

There is a great mystery Rennes le chateau,SACRED SITE, with strange priest Sauniere . Nicolas Poussin is in the center of this mystery . Many people believe since long years it's the "BERGERS d'ARCADIE" which give the answer!but there has been no answer in this painting just some hypothetic answers . There is 6 years I've received from my mother 2 paintings which were in my family since a long time . They came from a priest Henri Gasc ,priest in a church Notre Dame de Marceille near Rennes le chateau . He was my ancestor.Since 6years we 've discovered that these paintings were of Nicolas Poussin and were the key of the Rennes le chateau's mystery and the key of Poussin's secret .
We have found many symbols and many hidden symbols in these paintings ,which give the answer at all the questions about this mystery . I tell about all this story and my discoverings


There has been a reportage on the greatest french TV to explain my discoverings . These 2 paintings have been found in a crypt of the church where Gasc was priest . near Rennes le chateau . He has discovered the secret in these 2 paintings and has passed on the secret in parchments, these famous parchments which have been founded in Rennes le chateau's church by Sauniere . . Read my incredible story which explains this fabulous mystery ....Boudet protagonist with Gasc has wrotten a strange book CROMLECH DE RENNES LES BAINS . and which is in connexion with my paintings
In these paintings there is a code to find the answer at this ancestral and religious secret . There is a hidden message and a hidden picture in each painting.You must find it to understand;. There is a Da Poussin code to discover the key of this mystery and this secret .

[jojo]

In sw england (Avon) there are stone circles and a cove next to a medieval pub called the Driud inn. What is unusual is that the stones are poorly sign posted and even locals are not aware these stones exist. I dont know if they are on a leyline but it is close to camelot, glastonbury, bath area.

http://www.stone-circles.org.uk/stone/stantondrew.htm

Stanton Drew. 3 stone circles, and a cove :) just down the road from stoney littleton, as most magical long barrow

[jojo]

Stanton drew

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/45979_150480978304475_1264144_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/45979_150480971637809_5104536_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/45979_150480984971141_6935496_n.jpg

[jojo]

stoney littleton

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/47171_150480854971154_8369632_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/47171_150480864971153_1941677_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/47171_150480861637820_1949317_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/47171_150480858304487_8086839_n.jpg

[jojo]

devils den

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/45267_150480734971166_7798105_n.jpg


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/45267_150480728304500_7710337_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/45063_150480648304508_2089444_n.jpg

[jojo]

The Bride stones

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/37997_146044128748160_551293_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/33513_146044068748166_7122457_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/33513_146044065414833_1784915_n.jpg
figure for scale

[jojo]

The Bull Stones

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/33513_146044052081501_871060_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/33513_146044048748168_8281494_n.jpg

[jojo]

Luds Church rock chasm

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/39807_146043772081529_4562358_n.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/Facebook/stone%20circles%20and%20other%20interesting%20stuf f/39807_146043778748195_6318215_n.jpg

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